1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,520 Speaker 1: Morning. 2 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 2: Everybody is stej En v Charlamagne the guy. We are 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. Of course, we got our niece Nhla 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: in here with us, and we got a special guest 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: in the building, the brother Reason Welcome. 6 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 3: What's the deal? 7 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 4: How you feeling. 8 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 3: I'm a little tired. I haven't adjusted yet to. 9 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 4: The I heard you say that coming from a little office. 10 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Like coming back and forth the last couple of weeks 11 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: I have. 12 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: But I don't know why my body don't do the 13 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 3: adjusting thing, like I just stay on LA time all 14 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: the time. Yeah, it's weird, Like it's hard for me 15 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: to like fully adjust. 16 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: What time did you wake up this morning? 17 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 3: Like eight, which is like five? Yeah, okay, And I 18 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 3: don't go to sleep until super late because I'm not 19 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: tired until like four. So it's like I want to 20 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 3: sleep last night at like four and then I woke 21 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: up at eight. 22 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: So yeah, you got a new project y'all called Porches. 23 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, can we call this an album? It is okay, 24 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: So I don't I don't like when artists do that, 25 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 3: like when yeah, like it's it's an album, Like it's fine, 26 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: like artists. 27 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: I saw. 28 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna name his name, but he he just dropped. 29 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 3: He dropped maybe like last year and he was like, oh, 30 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: this is my second album, Like you got eight projects out, 31 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: like it's there are albums to me, I'm not gonna. 32 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: You don't want to say no other artists. 33 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: You can say names. Every artist does that. 34 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: You call everybody from TD out. 35 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 5: Your own label, porch porches out. 36 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: And I like that album because I love a good porch. 37 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 6: No, no, don't piggyback now, Okay, I love a good porch. 38 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. From the South, you know 39 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: what I love. I love a good porch. 40 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 5: I got a porch now, so I understand what you 41 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 5: mean when you talk about that porch. 42 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just the product of your environment. It's really 43 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: just like a metaphor for your environment. We're all, you know, 44 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: we're coming from our environment. If me and you grow 45 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: up in similar class, similar place, similar income, we're going 46 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: to go through similar ship. And that's kind of like 47 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: what the album storyline is about, is realizing the porch 48 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: that you want. Realize that you are a product in 49 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: your environment. And yes, you can grow on going to 50 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: do bigger things, but we need to understand and love 51 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: each other a little bit better knowing that we all 52 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: come from the same place, especially Untiday's time, because we 53 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: all just kind of point the finger at people when 54 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: something crazy happens, not understanding exactly like the things that 55 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: they've gone through whatnot. 56 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: Because that was the stoopid we call it the stupid. 57 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the outro is it actually says that because 58 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: I got the homy shot out scrap. He's kind of 59 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: like narrating the album in like an older man voice, 60 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: and he said that he like New York niggas call 61 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: it a stoop like you know, he was like rich 62 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: white people. I don't know what they call it, but 63 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: they call it some shit, you know what I mean? Like, so, yeah, 64 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: same thing. 65 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 5: I love these kind of albums, man, because I love 66 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 5: a project that I'm listening to. And then I got 67 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 5: to look down at the track list to know what 68 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 5: this song is because it's so cohesive. Yeah, you know, 69 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 5: is that purposely done? 70 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Of course it is. 71 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: It definitely is. I came in I started making this 72 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: album the idea behind it on my last album, New Beginning. 73 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: So the last album ended with a plethoro of dates 74 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: being said, and then this album picks up with those 75 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: dates being said, and now you're hearing the stories behind 76 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: those dates. So these are real stories that happened. There 77 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: were real dates, like some of these things you can 78 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: google because they actually happened. So it was definitely one 79 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: of those things I wanted to always wanted to make 80 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: a full blown cohesive album that people can listen to 81 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: it from front to back. I was always one of 82 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: my things on the bucket list. But I will say 83 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: it was way more work than I thought it was 84 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 3: gonna be. Like halfway through, I was like, I don't 85 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: know if I want to do this shit no more 86 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: making au making like it to connect all the way 87 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: through like that is a lot more work, especially in 88 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: the lame time, Yeah, where everybody just kind of like 89 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: has the playlist albums start. I mean, people don't do 90 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: it no more, like with ther Skids and everything, you know, 91 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: very lost art. 92 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 93 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so it takes a lot of if you 94 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: want to do it right, it takes a lot of coordination. 95 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: It takes a lot of time and making sure that 96 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: you don't miss any gaps or details or or you know, 97 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: making sure the aesthetic of it, like we brought in 98 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: the folly, got to do the all the sound effects 99 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and it just takes a lot 100 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: more work than I you know, thought I was kind 101 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: of getting myself into it if you. 102 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 5: Had guidance from other TD people because if it wasn't 103 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 5: alienating everybody, is that thing? 104 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: Is that what it is? 105 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: Off? 106 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 5: The people have done this before? Okay, this is the 107 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 5: camp that does it a lot. Kendrick does it a lot, 108 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 5: even though yeah, yea yeah, you know yeah. 109 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: So people would ask, what's your relationship with TD? 110 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: Is there problem? Is is charlamye say, and you don't 111 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: accept the guidance? What's what's what's the situation? 112 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: Like, don't accept the guidance is crazy? I'm always willing 113 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: to accept guidance, but nah, it's it's that entire situation. 114 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: Like that was a conversation that me and move have 115 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: had behind closed doors a lot. It was just one 116 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: of those things that it probably shouldn't have been well 117 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: not probably, it definitely just shouldn't have been out in 118 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: the public, you know what I mean. But there's a 119 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: lot of misconceptions about that, Like because it happened, there's 120 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: a misconception that Musa didn't think this album was quality. 121 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: Musa loves this album, like he helped me pick some 122 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: of the records. You get what I'm saying, And so 123 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: it was just one of those things that got so 124 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: nasty and so ugly publicly that now everything is a thing, 125 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 3: Like everything is a headline. The release party ship became 126 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: a headline. That was my fun That was yeah, But 127 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 3: it was like in the in the flow of the 128 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 3: context of the conversation, that one, that one, that one, 129 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: that one was, that one was my fault. I owned 130 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: that one. It was in the flow of the conversation. 131 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: What I was trying to say was because I was asked, 132 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: was just a weird week that you had to be 133 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: around people. I'm like, I didn't really have to be 134 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: around nobody because I had a release party. They come, 135 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: but I didn't. Well I did explain, but that's not 136 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: in the clip. We had a listening party the week 137 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: before that the label put together, and then my release party. 138 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 3: I put it together like for the homies and family 139 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: and shit, and because everything was happening, they just gave 140 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: me space on it. So it was one of those 141 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: things where I was like, I shouldn't have said that. 142 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 143 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: Cole Kendrick. Thing was wild too. It wasn't wild. There 144 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: was no reason for that reason. People don't know what 145 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: I said. People, I don't know what we said. 146 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 5: He said that when Cole drops his next project, he's 147 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 5: going to pass him. 148 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: I didn't say that, that's what I'm saying. 149 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: No. 150 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: I said, when Cole drops his next project, he will 151 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 3: be bigger. Not bigger than Kendrick, He'll be a lot bigger. 152 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: I said, he's doing a lot more current things. I 153 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: think he'll see the fruits of his labor. I said, 154 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: I think God is bigger right now, but I think 155 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: Cold's going to grow a lot. I don't know who's 156 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: going to be bigger, and I really don't care, Like 157 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: both of these niggas are like like gods to me, 158 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: Like I don't I don't really get into the argument 159 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: of who's the biggest out of Drake Colon Dot, Like 160 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 3: I'll get into arguments of who I think would have 161 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: a better verse on a song. But yeah, yeah, but 162 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 3: I entertained that, But I don't really get into like 163 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 3: the bigger argument. You just meant, like moment, I just 164 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: me and me, And when Cole drops this album, I 165 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: think it'll be he will be a lot bigger him, 166 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 3: not bigger than anybody else, But I mean it's supposed 167 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: it's supposed to be his it's supposed to be his 168 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: last album. I think that. I think that he's gonna 169 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 3: go out like with a bang if it is this 170 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: last album. We know how Sugar go. But I don't 171 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: know if there's anybody I think that'll stand on their word. 172 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 3: I think it's Cold. 173 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: Where did the bigger than Kendrick thing come from? 174 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: Because niggas want headlines like they asked, who is bigger 175 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: at a dot in in col And I said, I 176 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: don't know, but I know this is the fall off 177 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: dot is. I mean, Cold has been very, very consistent 178 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: over the years. I think he'll see the fruits of 179 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 3: his labor after he drops this album. I think he'll 180 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 3: be much bigger. And it became that he's bigger than that. 181 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: That's crazy, you know what? All I saw the headline. 182 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 5: About everybody, you know, because Reason been out here saying 183 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 5: even shooting TV. 184 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: Somebody was like, damn Reason. 185 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: I ain't even been shooting at them like that, man, 186 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: Like I just I said my truth, My true truth 187 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: for me was that I wanted to be more consistent. 188 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: I wanted to put out more music. That was what 189 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: I was getting. 190 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 5: Your fault and you don't reason. I've told you this 191 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 5: a million times. You are phenomenal artists to make grades songs. 192 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 5: You're because the consistence, consistency is on you. 193 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying is I don't that's that's not 194 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: my truth. And I don't want to, you know, because 195 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: when I go into detail, it's like it looks like 196 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: I'm like smearing the label. I don't want to do that. 197 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: But that's not my truth. I don't think it's my fault. 198 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: They don't want you to drive mixtapes in nothing. 199 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's TD. It's just the way that 200 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: they do things, Like it's not as simple as just 201 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: make a project, put it together, turn it in and 202 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: it's out. Trust me, Like I make a lot of music, 203 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: Like I just backed up my hard drive. I had 204 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: thirteen hundred records. But I'm not an artist that don't 205 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: work Like that's a that's not a thing. 206 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: But you do know, sometimes is like the perfect storm, right, 207 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: and sometimes I guess we fish for that perfect storm. 208 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: But as a label, I'm sure they invest and they 209 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: want that perfect storm. They want to make sure your 210 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: roleoute is right, so when it does hit, it connects 211 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: the right way and not just connect as a Okay, 212 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: well he did this and moves on. 213 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: And we've seen it with Sism, We've seen it with 214 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: you know, we've seen it. 215 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: With a lot of that. 216 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: Like they've hit the album. 217 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 5: I know, but she's been cooking in so long that 218 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 5: now she's got singles that are like going. 219 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure, yeah now she got she got 220 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: she got singles that's going. But I also think that 221 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: like the artists with the exception adult She that we 222 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: name it like like they're big, Like bigger artists can 223 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: chill for four years like that. 224 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 5: But that took a lot of time beforehand, like back 225 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 5: when you we're thinking of now, but think about that 226 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 5: back if. 227 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: You if you think about dot before a good kid 228 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: Mes City, Kendrick Lamar LP section eighty, the the one 229 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: that he did, all the little Wayne beats, I forgot 230 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: what that was. Those those came back to back like 231 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: they were flooding you. Like when you're a bigger artist, 232 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: then you can kind of chill and sit back and 233 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 3: be like yo, I'm away four years and between you, 234 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: like we see what twenty one is doing in twenty 235 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 3: one was a nigga that was flooding all the time. 236 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: And he hasn't dropped the album in maybe like three years. 237 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: But it's fine because he's twenty one savage. You know 238 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. The album with Drake two years well yeah, yeah, 239 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: but I'm just saying I'm saying that even before that though, 240 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: I think it was like two and a half three 241 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 3: years before before that, before the album with Drake, and even. 242 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: You to drop your own music, they say, hey, I 243 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: just want to release this mix tape or whatever it is, 244 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: so you can't even drop they're telling you they don't 245 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: even want you to do that. 246 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 3: It's just it's just same destination, different roads. Like that's 247 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: where we run into our issues. It's like we both 248 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 3: have we all have the same destination that we want 249 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: to get to. We just see different paths of getting 250 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: there and that can cause frustration, you know what I mean. 251 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: I see your path like we can do this and 252 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: do it this way. Sometimes they see it that way, 253 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 3: and it ultimately, you know what I mean, can kind 254 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: of clash at times. 255 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: When you drop music under like another name like explanation. 256 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 4: But you do feel like it's you have the common 257 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: goal of winning. 258 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: That's what I meant when I said it was a 259 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: lot of misconceptions. Like it was like like because that 260 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 3: that ship got so nasty publicly, it was almost like 261 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: the conception was that, like I feel like they don't 262 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: want me to be successful and that they feel like 263 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm not a good artist, which that's not it, but 264 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: it got so nasty that that's kind of what it was. 265 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: But I do think it's a common goal, like like 266 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: top in them they want they want all of their 267 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: artists to be big stars, you know what I'm saying, 268 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: And we all want to be big stars as well. 269 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: And sometimes you just see different roads in that and 270 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: you kind of, you know what I mean, you go 271 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: back and forth on it, and like I said, that 272 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: wasn't like like that was just bad because it was public. 273 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: We've had way worse shit than that, you get what 274 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 3: I'm saying. And I think if I would have responded 275 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: on the spot and went back at him, I think 276 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: it would have been like one of the conversations we've 277 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: had behind closed doors. And that was part of the 278 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: reason why I just shut up, even though it was hard, 279 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: because I didn't want it to get any worse than 280 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: it already was. I feel like it overshadowed the album slightly, 281 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: because slightly yeah yeah, if everybody's talking about reason issues 282 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: with TD as opposed to the music, Yeah yeah, and 283 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: that's it's weird. It's like a double edged storre. Like 284 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: it gave more eyes to the album. Like if didn't 285 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: nobody know I was dropping an album that Friday, they knew 286 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: after that. But it also, like you said, it created 287 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: a different conversation instead of having a conversation about the music. 288 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: And like, but the people that have listened to it, 289 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: like my feedback has been incredible, Like it's especially from 290 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: all of my fans that's been waiting for me. They're like, 291 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: this is by far your work well worth the wait. 292 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 3: And you know that just goes into like all the 293 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: work that I put in. But that was an annoying thing. 294 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 3: It's like, now this is what we're talking about, instead 295 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: of you know, the visuals, instead of the storyline, instead 296 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: of us, you know, announcing the tour, we're kind of waiting, 297 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: you know, for to you know, die down a little bit, 298 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: like I would have rather just kind of like go 299 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 3: straight through with the music. 300 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: Let me ask you question why why it's gonna sound stupid, 301 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: but why did you sign the TD Because you know, 302 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: a lot of artists sign the TD because if say, 303 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: they got artist I can work with, I can collaborate with, 304 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: They have producers that I can work with, They have 305 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: a stream for me to get. 306 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: Heard and out. 307 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: What was your reason of signing with TD and what 308 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: did you expect? 309 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little, a little all of those things, but 310 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: basically it was the Lakers. I'm from the I'm from 311 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: LA and that's the Lakers for us, you know what 312 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: I mean. And so U when I when I signed, 313 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: I did. I did want to come in and work 314 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: with you know, Kendrick and Q and have this you know, 315 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: super cohesive family relationship, the same ship that I grew 316 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: up on watching. And I think that that's not their fault. 317 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: That was just me being like naive. It's like signing 318 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 3: to the Lakers, You're like, oh, nigga'mout to go work 319 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: out with Kobe and this, and then you realize, like, Niga, 320 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 3: Kobe don't work out with niggas that just signed to 321 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: the team, Like he don't even know if you're gonna 322 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: steal you know what I'm saying, Like, and so it 323 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: was kind of like that was my expectation, like, oh, 324 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get in with sound Wave and I'm a 325 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like and it was really 326 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: like no, you're You're still signing to a label and 327 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: like now the work begins. And I even talk about 328 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: that on the album on Gang Shit, I talk about 329 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: how like I thought that this was what it was 330 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: gonna be. That's what that record is about. It's me 331 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 3: taking the accountability. Like I thought that this was what 332 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: that was, what the situation was gonna be. Now that 333 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 3: I'm here, I realize it's not. But as long as 334 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: Top is rocking with me, like it's up to me 335 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 3: to do everything that I have to do, you know 336 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: what I mean for my career. But yeah, I signed 337 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: with him for all of those reasons. I combined like 338 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: I'm from LA I watched TD grow, you know what 339 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 3: I mean, and so and it's like that's another miss 340 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 3: like it's love from like I have a great relationship 341 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 3: with majority of the artists. It's weird. We live in 342 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: a time now where when you tell the truth, it 343 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: sounds like you're like speaking down on some ship, you 344 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like I said, I don't have 345 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: a relationship with Sizza. Everybody took that it's like that 346 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: was like a bad thing. I'm like, well, do the 347 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 3: artists at Atlantic have relationships with Cardi b Every artist 348 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 3: Atlantic don't got a relationship with? 349 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: You're the perception that the general public has of labels. 350 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: Labels or family small, they say with Bad Boy. 351 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 2: I'm sure they seen it with Rockere, they seen it 352 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 2: with Death Row, so it's it's small lab But I 353 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: know you broke down some of those lyricscause you was 354 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: telling me some of those lyrics. 355 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: You just said it. 356 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 6: But I mean I feel like that about a lot 357 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 6: of companies working at Power. I thought the same thing too, 358 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 6: So I totally understand you. 359 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: But fuck with you. I'm playing. I'm playing. 360 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: We don't got it all right? 361 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: So okay, a few things. 362 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 6: Do you feel like the issue between or the differences 363 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 6: between you and TD it's just patients on your behalf. 364 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: You just gotta I think I think it's a little 365 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: bit of both. I would say it's partly patients, but 366 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: then as well, like my last album was three years ago, 367 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think that that's all patients. Like I 368 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: don't know, like like I don't know a up and 369 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: coming artist that can like consistently move like with three 370 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: year gaps, consistently within their meals, Like if this was 371 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 3: how it was supposed was gonna go for the next 372 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 3: ten years, it's like, so yeah, it's patience because I 373 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: do gotta wait for things to get right. But it's 374 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: also like we also do kind of gotta you know, 375 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: catch up with like what the times are now, which 376 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: is it has to be a little bit faster. 377 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: Have I survived during that time because three years is 378 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: a long time, especially during pandemic, you know, outer pandemic, 379 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: But you still got bills to pay, you got rent, 380 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: you got more. 381 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: Honestly, I survived because of my fan Like New Beginners 382 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: did really really well, Like my fans just kept streaming it, 383 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: like I think it's like over one hundred and thirty 384 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: k units, So just because my fans just kept straying. 385 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: That's literally how I survived was just off of my 386 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: streaming money, you know what I mean. And that was 387 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: another thing why I could admit that I was a 388 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: little frustrated when I was talking about certain things, cause 389 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, I got in this to make music, but 390 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: also got in this to like make money and feed 391 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: my family, you know what I mean. And it is 392 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: hard when you're not dropping music because if you're not 393 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: dropping music, you're also not really doing shows like that. 394 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: And then it was also COVID, and I dropped New 395 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: Beginners in the heart of COVID, so I didn't even 396 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: get to tour New Beginners. So there's a lot of 397 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: things that kind of play into me being like, yo, 398 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: I'm ready to get back out there and put some 399 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: music out. You get what I'm saying. 400 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 5: So I can't remember what song it was, but there's 401 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 5: a song on the album when you're talking about how 402 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 5: your family thinks you got so much. 403 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: Money and you didn't you didn't change. 404 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the first that's the first verse. 405 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: So the first verse is about I thought that it 406 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: was family. I thought it was supposed to be gang shit. 407 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: And look at how y'all act now that I'm in 408 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: this situation. You think I got all this money, you 409 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: think I have all this fame and stuff like that, 410 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: but like that's not really how my life is. And 411 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: look at how you're acting now. And the climax of 412 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: the verse is like my family member yelling at me, 413 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: calling me Reason, And I'm like, I thought you knew 414 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: me as Rob my entire life. You called me Rob, 415 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: Like why are you now calling me Reason? That came 416 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: from a real place, Like I got family members that 417 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: called me Reason. It's weird, Like I've known you since 418 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: I was two. 419 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: They probably think you got way more than what you get. 420 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: Way more. Know when I got way busier than what 421 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: I got. They say things like, oh, you know, I 422 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: was gonna text you, but I thought that, you know, 423 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: I figured you would be busy, Like why did you 424 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: Why do you just assume I'm too busy to text 425 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: you now because I'm quote unquote reason, Like that's you 426 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: know what I mean crazy to me? 427 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, right now. 428 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 6: But I do want to start with just the intro 429 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 6: of the projects. We're talking about porches, but in it 430 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 6: you talk about how you guys all are connected through 431 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 6: the porches, but also they feel kind of like entitled 432 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 6: to what you got going on, good or bad? 433 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, how do you break that? It's less of 434 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: like entitled this more about uh, this is kind of 435 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: what comes with it. And the reason why I wanted 436 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: to highlight that in the intro is because on every 437 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: single hip hop album we always hear people talk about 438 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: the negative stuff that went on in their neighborhood. It's 439 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: always I'm from the hood, niggas die chalk out lines 440 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: bla sa blah. But for me, I wanted to highlight 441 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: that there's great things that come with that too. There's persistence, 442 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. There's my sister taught me 443 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 3: to be brave and take leaps on things that I 444 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: want in life. You get what I'm saying. Like my 445 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: mom taught me rationality, my pops hustled. You taught me 446 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 3: out of hustle. Like, there's great things that come from 447 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: being with those places and all of those things kind 448 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: of come into it instead of us just only highlighting 449 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: like the negative stuff. 450 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm broken with to break. You said, I 451 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 6: was born in this machine. Some niggas are still in it. 452 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 6: How did you find your way out? 453 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: Honestly, I went to school in Iowa, which is crazy 454 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: to say. I played basketball and I was out there 455 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: with all the white people in Iowa, and that was 456 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: like a culture shock. I had never been coming from 457 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: where I was from. I didn't have a white relationship 458 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 3: in my life until I went I know that sound. 459 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: I didn't I'm being dead ass here. Before I went 460 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: to college, I didn't have a white relationship in my life. 461 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: There was nobody that I talked to in any type 462 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: of consistent format that was white. And then I went 463 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: to Iowa and there were three black people in my school, 464 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: including me, you know what I mean. And so that 465 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: just gave me a different perspective of how life is 466 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: and understanding that everything is in so vain and in 467 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 3: this box and whatnot, you know what I mean. And 468 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: so it made me grow up a lot. And then 469 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: when I came back, I was just like, nah, I 470 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: want to do more shit because I've seen a little 471 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: bit of the world, you know what I mean. So, yeah, 472 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: just put a different perspective in me. 473 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 6: It's broken. Went to break based off a true story, 474 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 6: like the story you tell you. 475 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about it's about my homeboy. But I didn't 476 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: want to put his name in there. But my homeboy 477 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: came back off of a winter break. You could tell 478 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: that he was a little bit different of a person, 479 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 3: ended up getting robbed, And it's about the mindset of 480 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: you know, you come back home, you get robbed. He 481 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: not really tripping because he just like I don't really 482 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: care about this shit, but he's feeling pressured as a 483 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: man from his neighborhood that we got to go get 484 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: it back, and so he has to put on this 485 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 3: front like yo, I'm with whatever, but really in his 486 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: mind he's like, I don't want to do like this 487 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: shit is stupid. I don't want to do it. But 488 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: then ultimately at the end, the story is really about 489 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: his little brother that's sitting there on the porch watching 490 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 3: all us, because his little brother is seeing it, and 491 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: this is what his little brother grows up to be. 492 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: And then later on the album you have Busting Slash 493 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 3: it says w B part two, but that's Winter Break 494 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: part two, and so Busting is the little bit little 495 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: boy when he's older, you get what I'm saying. And 496 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 3: so now he's on a whole different mindset because this 497 00:18:59,200 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: is all the shit that he saw. 498 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 5: I love how you connected that generational trauma, that generational 499 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 5: curse that's going and you got to be cognizant of 500 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 5: your actions because the next generation is watching. 501 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, And the thing I love about that story is 502 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: that the actions aren't coming from a true place. It's 503 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: coming from a place of a man that thinks that 504 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: he has to do that. And so a lot of 505 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 3: times we get trauma passed down because this is literally 506 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: what niggas are doing every day. But this story is like, nah, 507 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: this nigga don't want to do this. He just feel 508 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 3: like he has to. And even like you know, with 509 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: him not really having to do it, he still passes 510 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: it down. And now the little kid has grown and 511 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 3: he's with everything that you know, he thought his brother 512 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: was actually with. 513 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 5: Now talking to me about Caucasian the States because you 514 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 5: said you hated white people. 515 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: Not headlines. 516 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't like, what is that mansions? 517 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it starts with me describing the porch and 518 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 3: the and then the next record is Caucasian the States. 519 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: And there's a date set in there, which is July 520 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. That's when I met Mussa. And basically the 521 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: mindset is as soon as niggas get a little bit 522 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: of money, that's the first thing we want to do 523 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 3: is get a better car and go live in a 524 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: white neighborhood. So it's Caucasian in the States we want to 525 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: go live in. And so it's a it's a like 526 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: a braggy, cocky song because that's how you that's how 527 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: I felt when I met Moussa and I was about 528 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: to sign with TV. I'm gonna have all the money, 529 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: all the women about to go give me a crib 530 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 3: out here. I'm about to dry. And that's how your 531 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: mind automatically is. So yeah, that's Caucasian the States. I know. 532 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 6: We're talking about you putting together cohesive project and having skits, 533 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 6: and I love that, But I gotta say, I do 534 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 6: hate some of your skits because, like I just don't 535 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 6: like the way you painted the women saying like there's 536 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 6: always a new nigga who could take care of. 537 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: Us and all that. That's not I mean, that's always 538 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: the case. It's not always the case. That's just like 539 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 3: the truth of what I grew up around. Like that 540 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: was like not like like my sister and my close friends, 541 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: but like that's kind of like the women when I 542 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: grew up, Like the women's attitude was like, you know what, 543 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 3: one man won't do for you, another man will, and 544 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: that was kind of like the way that they carried themselves. 545 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: But there's also a woman in the group that she's 546 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: the one that's like she wants to stay with her dude, Yeah, 547 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: she got home. 548 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: You know what? 549 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying, and that was about my homegirl. I had 550 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 3: a homegirl that she was just a hopeless romantic. She 551 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: always no matter how much her friends is like that. 552 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: She was like, I'm like, I do have hope that 553 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: I'll find a man that, you know what I mean, 554 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: can actually be that man. So for me, that was like, 555 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: it was it was my truth. That was what I saw. 556 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 5: I like, I like when people take old sayings and 557 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 5: kind of like update them. So you had the girl 558 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 5: say the best way to get over with one man 559 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 5: is to get upoint or another. 560 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, some girl are in front or in front. 561 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's yeah, or in front of it, 562 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: and I let them do they thing. That was probably 563 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: like my most fun part about making this project was 564 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 3: the skits, like because it was really with the homies. 565 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: We tried to get actors and they sent me a 566 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 3: bunch of like acting auditions and whatnot, and I was 567 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: just like, it's too PROP was like, these niggas suck, 568 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: But it's because they're not from La, you know what 569 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I'm getting shipped from people from everywhere. 570 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 3: I'm like, nobody's gonna know how to do. So I 571 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: just ended up calling all the homies, you know what 572 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: I mean. And we just literally was in there like 573 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: miked up and just acting out the Dice game scenes. 574 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: I just had Nigga shoot Dice for thirty minutes and 575 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: just like go back and forth and whatnot. So it 576 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: was dope because it came out as authentic as possible. 577 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 5: For how do you feel when the women you use 578 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 5: for skits ask you for the tickets and you can't 579 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 5: get it. 580 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 3: I can get Sisit tickets. I just you know, I 581 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 3: might not be able to, you know, go on stage 582 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: and I'm joking, I'm juggling. I'm joking before they take 583 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: that out of context, But yes, I can get Sisit tickets. Okay, 584 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: her show was incredible. 585 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: Are such a troll? All right? 586 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 6: So on sending to after like it's crazy the outro, 587 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 6: You're saying, more money, we start to make, more danger 588 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 6: we get in life, Love my people so damn much. 589 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 6: Pray one day we get it right. We can build 590 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 6: till we together. We're gonna always sacrifice country hater us. 591 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 6: No more sending each other to after Life. 592 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, love the outro. 593 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: What do you think people hear you? It's probably not 594 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: because it's like this is a cycle. It's like we 595 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 3: like niggas get money and they can't or get success 596 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: or even the the image of success and money, and automatically, 597 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: like they do, become a target. And to me, it's 598 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 3: just crazy because it's like I feel like we can 599 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: all build together. Like to me, it's like if there's 600 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 3: one millionaire in the room, that opens the door for 601 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: there to before and then if they walk into different rooms, 602 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: that opens the door for there to be eight more 603 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 3: in those other rooms. And instead of us thinking like 604 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: that the first thing we think about, it's like, oh, 605 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: that's a lick, Like that's that's a that's somebody that 606 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: we can come up on right now, you know what 607 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: I mean. And so and it's like the country already 608 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 3: don't want us to be there anyway, So why are 609 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 3: we doing their job? Well, not their job, but what 610 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 3: they act like is their job for them. Like why 611 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: are we sitting here, you know, targeting each other when 612 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: we can just build together and we can all get on. 613 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 3: So that's kind of like what it is. But I mean, 614 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if people hear me. I hope you 615 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: know what I mean. But I hope that we don't 616 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: have to have more rappers, you know, yeah getting ribbed 617 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 3: or dying or having to protect themselves. I hope that's 618 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: the case. 619 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 5: Well, why'd you call Gina august Alsina? 620 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 3: And it's a fun record, I say, fucking on cougars 621 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 3: like August Helsina. I just like the line, So I 622 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: just called it, Yeah, I called it August her Seena. 623 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: That's probably like my favorite story that's broken in like 624 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: the last ten years. I love the entire like entire 625 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 3: Will Smith. I want a documentary on that. That entire 626 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: situation is just like the most fascinating thing in me, 627 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: like any any because it's just like Will Smith is 628 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: like the guy, like he's fresh prince, like he's like 629 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: and so like I look at things at different perspectives 630 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 3: like everybody else saw. It's like, damn, I can't believe 631 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 3: he slapped I'm like there's a story there, Like he 632 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 3: ain't just slap him because of that night, Like there's 633 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: something there that's like there's a lot of yeah, you 634 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: know what I mean. And and you know his wife 635 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 3: being on the show and talking about everything and the 636 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 3: pot ship, like they should do a documentary on that ship. 637 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: Like that's a very very interesting story. And I feel 638 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: like people just focus on the climaxes of the story, 639 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: but I'm like, it's a lots on fold there, Like 640 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: that's literally my favorite story. 641 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 4: If that, if that family's heal, if the if. 642 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 3: The family's here, if the family. 643 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 5: Don't think that story becomes a story without that red 644 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 5: table talk I agree, I don't think I agree, But 645 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 5: even that is there's something to impact there. It's like, 646 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 5: why is that conversation happening on red table talk? There's 647 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 5: something behind, There's something there that's like that's allowing that 648 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 5: to to get out. 649 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying, to be a thing. 650 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: To see, like things that should be private public. 651 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,239 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, similar to the yeah you know, 652 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: I got where you were going. 653 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 5: I little too much too Yeah yeah, yeah. 654 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: That's my that's that's the homie. We used to call 655 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: him Melly Mail. I don't want to put his whole 656 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: government out there, but I went to high school with 657 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: him and he went to a party. He was like 658 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: top ten running back in the nation, went to a party, 659 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: got into a fight, a guy got killed, and uh, 660 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 3: you know, he knew the person that did it, uh, 661 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: but he got arrested for it. And so he sat 662 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: in jail for a year and his entire life change. 663 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: Lost all of the scholarships was like major setback, but 664 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 3: he felt like he couldn't. Of course, where we're from, 665 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 3: you can't tell who did it, so you just got 666 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 3: to kind of sit until the whole thing plays out. 667 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 3: And even that story. That's one thing I like about 668 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: all the stories on the album is that there's two 669 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 3: stories in it. It's what happened to Melvin, but then 670 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: it's also about like black men and how we handle 671 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: our issues. Because the other story behind is when I 672 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: called him and he was in jail and I asked 673 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: somebody he was doing. He just said he was fine, 674 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 3: and it's like that's another thing. It's like we don't 675 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 3: talk about the shit that we're going through. So it's 676 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: a two folded conversation in that, and I remember thinking like, 677 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: there's no way he could be like this. Nigga's whole 678 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: life is completely gone, Like he was headed to the 679 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 3: NFL and now he don't know where he's going, you 680 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 3: know what I mean. And so but he was just 681 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 3: always like no, I'm cool, like you know, it is 682 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: what it is. And I could just tell that it 683 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 3: affected him. 684 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 5: And The other thing with that song is like there's 685 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 5: no reward for real niggas. 686 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's no it's no, it's no like like 687 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: like pot of gold at the end of that you 688 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like this you sat in jail 689 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: for you it came home to what one thousand percent? 690 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 3: But it's also like you if you do do it, 691 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 3: like what do you come home to on that end, 692 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: And that's a very real thing. I've seen it, you 693 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I've seen that be become a 694 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: real thing. So it's one of those things where you 695 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: got to hope that the other person is a stand 696 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: up man and comes forward because he knows that you're 697 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: sitting there. But you know, some niggas would just be 698 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,239 Speaker 3: like nah, like you know what I mean, Like I'm 699 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: just gonna ride this out out. And it's like it 700 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 3: completely altered his entire life and even till this day, 701 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 3: like I've never had a conversation with Meil about it. 702 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: Like I sent him the record and he just called 703 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 3: me and was like, thank you for writing about it, 704 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: But we've never talked about it. Like it's still something 705 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: that I don't think that he's probably ever like full 706 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 3: blown got off his chests, you know what I mean, 707 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 3: unpacked and. 708 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: What And like you said, in our community, that's a 709 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: big thing because everybody wants to be a real nigga. 710 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: But like you said, there is no award or reward 711 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: for being a real nigga at all at all. 712 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 3: You don't get nothing for that, you know what I mean. 713 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: You don't get nothing for being That's why I used 714 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 3: to love the Dave Chappelle skits when he had the 715 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: real nigga keeping it real going wrong and it's like 716 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: the nigga wild out and he lose his job, any 717 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 3: homeless and shit like that. Like Dave was ahead of 718 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: his time. But yeah, like you said, it's no reward 719 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: for that. 720 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: Then honestly, if he was. 721 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 6: To really open up and tell you how he really feels, 722 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 6: or you think like you be able to handle it, 723 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 6: I would. 724 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 3: But I do understand what you're saying. But I think 725 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 3: it's less about that. I think it's more about like 726 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: black men just aren't taught that, Like like we're talking 727 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: from a young age, like life ain't fair, get over it, 728 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 3: don't complain, don't suck it out. Year we're taught that 729 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: from a younger So I think it's less about the 730 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 3: person receiving it. I think it's more about the fear 731 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 3: of Like I look weak if I talk about it, 732 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 3: like I look like less of a man. I look 733 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 3: like I'm complaining. Like I say this all the time 734 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: my homegirls. I'm like girls not as the healthiest shit 735 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: in the world. Y'all just gather up, drink wine, and 736 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: just complain, which is like getting things off your chest. 737 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: You're unpacking, you're unloading, and then you'll have fun and 738 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: then you leave there feeling lighter than Like guys don't 739 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: have that. We get together, like like I had a 740 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 3: homie that I went to watch a game with. We 741 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 3: were in the bar for like three hours watching the game, 742 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 3: and we talked about sports for three hours. I leave 743 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: the bar, I figure out that like his girl about 744 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: to demn there put about to demnire lose his family, 745 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 3: we ain't talk about that for the whole three hours. 746 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: We just talking about Lebron and how Lebron is the 747 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: greatest person in the NBA. And it's like, we don't 748 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: unpack those things because we're taught that you can't talk 749 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: to another man about it if you talk to your 750 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 3: girl about it, you look weak. So it's like, where 751 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: do you go with and you just kind of turn 752 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 3: the different vices, And I've been there. 753 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: Charlama doesn't feel like way by the way he thinks 754 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: of Steph Curry. You said, Lebron, what's your thoughts? 755 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 756 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that he's the best player in the NBA. I 757 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: actually I actually agree with that. I think I think Steph. 758 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: I think that I got I think Steph is top 759 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: five of all time. I think, yeah, okay, yeah, I 760 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: think him at three. Yeah, I got him at four. 761 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: I got Jordan, Kobe, Steph, Bron and Magic. 762 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: You got him after I mean before Bron. 763 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: Yes, you're crazy, but I do. 764 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: Have him top. I think he's the best player in 765 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: the NBA right now, but I think that he's top five. 766 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 3: And niggas don't want to hear that I got Kobe. 767 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: I got Kobe at one, Jordan A two, Bron at three, 768 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: and then uh, Steph at four, and I got Shock 769 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: at five. But clearly I'm biased because that's a lot 770 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: of leg niggers. 771 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 5: In history is going to show that Lebron and Steph 772 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 5: met up in NBA finals. 773 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: Yep, what four times? 774 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: Was it? Four? 775 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? Was it four four times? Yeah? 776 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: Four times? Yeah? 777 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: And Steph one. He's three to one in the NBA finals. 778 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: That matters, It does matter. But at the same time, 779 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 3: he had KD, like. 780 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: So what he didn't always have KD. 781 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: The championship thing is weird though. It's not all about championships. 782 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: It's about a lot of other stuff too. It's about 783 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 3: to act like the accolades. I feel like Lebron is 784 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 3: the most accomplished probably not not athletes, that's Tom Brady, 785 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: but he's the most accomplished basketball player of all time. 786 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: I feel like that does matter, all of the accolades, 787 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: all of the accomplishments that he's done, the scoring like 788 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 3: where he is that, the scoringless rebounds. 789 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: Like that's when I think accomplishment. 790 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 3: I mean even the All NBA teams, All Stars m 791 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 3: v P. Like, he's like accomplished, Like he's the most 792 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: how many final. 793 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: Dan got six finals? MVPs. 794 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: Bro That's fine, but he don't have he don't. He 795 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 3: don't have as many accomplishments as like that. That has 796 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: to do with a team. I'm talking about all of 797 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: your accomplishments. That has to do with you as an individual. 798 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's statute is crazy. 799 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: It is, but it's not better than Bron's. 800 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: That's I totally disagree with you. 801 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: You think it's you think Michael Jordan's stats are better 802 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: than Lebron. 803 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: Maybe that Stafford accolade. When you put all the accolade. 804 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, let's let's get back to the I don't 805 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: want to put you out. 806 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: I said, let's go back to something. You're talking about therapy. 807 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 5: That's why I'm so big on therapy, right, because people 808 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 5: that go to therapy have no problem having those conversations. 809 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 5: Like when you talk about these women having girl nights out, 810 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 5: it's because a lot of them already go to therapy. 811 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 5: They're already seeking healing, so it's easy for them to 812 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 5: have these conversations amongst each other. 813 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: I noticed with my guys that. 814 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 5: People around me that are already in therapy and seeking 815 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 5: some healing, we have no problem having those conversations. 816 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: For sure, I agree, But I also think with women, 817 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: they're just naturally because I don't think a lot I 818 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: think women are doing that before they even get into therapy. 819 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 3: I think women are naturally just better at talking about 820 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: their feelings, and it's because of how we're brought up 821 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: like women are brought up to you know you you 822 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: do caddle women a little bit more so you ask 823 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: them to tell you, like how do you feel like 824 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 3: are you okay? How does that make you feel? Whereas 825 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: I remember as a kid, like like going through stuff 826 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: and my dad being like, like, suck it up, stop crying, like, 827 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: and that's not a knock at him. He just doing 828 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 3: what he was taught, you know what I mean. But 829 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: I vividly remember like being balled up with rage and 830 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: not knowing how to express it. And my dad's thing 831 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: was like, nigga, stopped crying, like. 832 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: But also you also feel like you don't want to 833 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: look weak, yeah, And that was his thing. 834 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: He was like, you're gonna look weak if you crying, like, Nigga, 835 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: stop crying, like, suck it up. Like, I'm like, but 836 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: that ain't like life ain't fair, Like get over you 837 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: know how many things ain't fair for me? Like that's 838 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 3: how I was brought up. 839 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 4: You gonna call me a beise bitch exactly. 840 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: Back in the day, though you should be crying bullshit 841 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: some stuff. Cry over, you know. 842 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, Yeah, we got to be able to 843 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: express ourselves a little bit better. 844 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 5: Oh. 845 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 6: I was reading some comments online Twitter, YouTube, and they're 846 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 6: saying that your album is one of their favorite albums 847 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 6: of the year, right next to Mike Killer Mike. 848 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, which is that? Which is a crazy compliment 849 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: because I love Killing Mike's album. But I felt that way, 850 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 3: and I felt that way before it was dropped. It 851 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 3: not because it's my album, but I also felt that 852 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: way because it's been a light year for rat Like 853 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 3: it just hasn't been that great. I do take the 854 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: second half of the year is about to be stacked. 855 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: I know Drake stopping on Friday, but I felt like, like, 856 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 3: when I'm listening to all the albums and they're coming out, 857 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh no, I'm gonna have like probably like 858 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: one of the better albums in rap this year, you 859 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: know what I mean. And but for people to put 860 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 3: it next to Killer MIC's like, that's a huge compliment 861 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: because that was my favorite album this year. Like when 862 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 3: that dropped, I was like, nah, like this is the goal. 863 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: That's the year. I was like, that was the one. 864 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, now that's been like the craziest compliment for sure. 865 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: For sure. I love that. 866 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all, want to play a. 867 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 5: Record, Well, I actually just want to say this. Michael 868 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 5: Jordan has six champions Michael Jordan has six championships, six finals, MVPs, 869 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 5: like I told you, five regular season MVPs, one Defensive 870 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 5: Player of the Year, ten scoring titles, one Rookie of 871 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 5: the Year, one Hall of Fame. Lebron has four championships, 872 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 5: four m VPS, four regular season MVPs, one scoring title, 873 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 5: one Rookie of the Year. 874 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 3: Mj played against bumps, against forgive, we played against play 875 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: against bumps. You can't name five high level wings that 876 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: he played against. The people talk about Regie Miller, REGGI 877 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 3: Miller is a bum compared to Clay Thompson. Like Clay 878 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 3: Thompson better than Reggie Miller. It's just a different It's 879 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: a different level of Reggie Miller with a we. 880 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 4: Need to wash him off with so young. 881 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 3: It's not I'm doing this, bro It wasn't back then. 882 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: It was back then, it was big. It wasn't wings 883 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 3: now it's wings like Brover played against, just better. They 884 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: played against better talent. 885 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: That small thing. 886 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, we can argue about basketball later. 887 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: I reason to leave man, reason what record you want 888 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: to play gamesh hold on. 889 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: Should I pressed in on this? Totally? 890 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: You're gonna You're gonna start someth niggas is right now. Man, 891 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 3: he's gonna think that I said some crazy ship. 892 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: What if that reason? 893 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: Brother, We're gonna play game ship right now. 894 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: Let's play games Breakfast Club's reason