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Speaker 1: same bad time, same bad channel, in this case from

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, California. Welcome in, And as I told a

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Speaker 1: gentleman from Chexas and we landed the plane today, he

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Speaker 1: asked the lady behind me, how you forward to live here?

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Speaker 1: I said, you know why LA is so expensive? You

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Speaker 1: know the answer is because it's worth it anyway. Uh,

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Speaker 1: welcome in. I hope you're great. The one thing about LA,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit like, you know, you're on the

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Speaker 1: like this place is great. It would be a lot better,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't want wit was it the It wasn't

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Speaker 1: the Da Vinci Code. It was one of the the

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Speaker 1: Dan Brown books or whatever that where they where the

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Speaker 1: idea was it'd be something in the water and would

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Speaker 1: kill off half the people. Whatever. Which book was that,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember Google that would you the same guy

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Speaker 1: who wrote to da Vinci Code. It's like two after

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Speaker 1: that one. I can't remember which one it is called. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: was it Inferno? It was Inferno? Right, it was Inferno. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I read books. I smart, so Dann Brown Inferno. Like, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna spoil it for you. It's like fifteen years old.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't picked it up. That's that's a U problem,

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Speaker 1: not a ME problem. Essentially, Essentially, there's a cult of

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Speaker 1: people in the world that think the only way to

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Speaker 1: save the earth is to cut the population in half,

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Speaker 1: kind of sort of start over. And the way they

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Speaker 1: do that is something they place in the water where

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Speaker 1: it makes certainly it makes like a portion of people infertile, right,

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Speaker 1: so they can't have kids and that will cut the population.

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Speaker 1: Sort of genius, sort of diabolical all the same time. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: there is the moment when you're in crowded places like

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Speaker 1: this place would be super awesome if like nobody was here.

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Speaker 1: I used to work in New York City and live

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Speaker 1: in Connecticut, and I would there'd be a snowstorm in

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Speaker 1: like just after the snow had fallen. It was so

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Speaker 1: quiet and so beautifully. Like, Man, New York be awesome

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Speaker 1: if there wasn't so many damn people here. And I

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Speaker 1: say that because I've been watching this John Matier story.

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Speaker 1: So John Matier is the new quarterback at Oklahoma. By

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Speaker 1: the way, He is the next savior, right because last

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Speaker 1: year they had a freshman who is the savior and

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Speaker 1: he started three games and they ran him out of town.

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Speaker 1: But he's Jeob Materier is the new savior of Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: because Oklahoma football has not been nearly as good as

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Speaker 1: so three four years since Kayleb Williams left. And so

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Speaker 1: the thought is that, you know, when Lincoln Riley left

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Speaker 1: you know where you have where you have like back

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Speaker 1: to back to back just stud quarterbacks and even before

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Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams, you know, for three games, Spencer Rattler was

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Speaker 1: the starter. He was the number one ranked prospect and

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Speaker 1: he went to South Carolina. He's an NFL quarterback. He's okay.

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Speaker 1: The bigger point is that Materier is he transferred him

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Speaker 1: And Oklahoma who's somehow ranked right, and we talked about

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Speaker 1: a new football language and on paper should be really good.

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Speaker 1: So you wake up this morning to the gambling allegations,

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Speaker 1: matear potentially suspended. They're like, oh man, what was he doing?

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Speaker 1: So apparently somebody who wants to purport themselves as a reporter,

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Speaker 1: but we don't actually know who it is because they're

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Speaker 1: check but they gave him me mine. I did not

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Speaker 1: pay for mine. But it used to be like, if

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Speaker 1: blue check mark. Now anybody can get it. So what's

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Speaker 1: as a reporter But there's no real person that exists

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Speaker 2: I believe it's Brian Aguada, I believe is how I

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Speaker 2: say it. And he purported himself as Valley News Live,

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Speaker 2: which there's no record of him apparently from the news outlet.

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Speaker 2: They say they've never hired someone like that. And his

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so again this is an internet troll. Happened to

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Speaker 1: earlier this year, because it was I think this year. No,

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Speaker 1: it was last year. We lost to Michigan Tech and

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Speaker 1: somebody acted like they were covering the We act. We

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Speaker 1: a really good, probably the best Division three league in

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Speaker 1: the country that I called Michigan Tech nobody you, which

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Speaker 1: is the opposite of what I said. I said, everybody

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Speaker 1: we played is capable of beating us. I don't want

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Speaker 1: somebody essentially took what I said, flipped it and made

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Speaker 1: it out like I said it about Michigan Tech. I

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Speaker 1: was walking down the street in Traverse City, Michigan, last week,

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Speaker 1: and somebody yelled up, nobody you. But this is where

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Speaker 1: people suck, so they job materier is And I understand

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Speaker 1: we're gonna this is something we're forever going to struggle

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Speaker 1: with now. Is when you did something dumb, or you

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Speaker 1: did something that young guys do five seven years ago,

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Speaker 1: and you're a college football player, what would people say, Ah,

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Speaker 1: it's a college kid. Now he's a college kid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I still in college. I did way worse in college,

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Speaker 1: you know, even I mean, you name the guy who's

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Speaker 1: a party boy. He made excuses for it. Right now

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Speaker 1: because these quarterbacks are making seven figures and frankly, because

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Speaker 1: people were able to legally bet on these games, and

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Speaker 1: because of transfer, portal, nil, whatever, the professionalization of an

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Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler. You guys, I don't know. We all worked

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Speaker 1: But at the time when Spencer Rattler was the starting

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Speaker 1: in like his second game, I'm telling you that was

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Speaker 1: professional sports where college students feel emboldened to boom and

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Speaker 1: they weren't necessarily mad that he sucked. There was a

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Speaker 1: ear rings and the whole look. People knew who he

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Speaker 1: what somebody did that we don't know who it is.

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Speaker 1: They went and looked at his Venmo account and found

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Speaker 1: sent venmos to somebody else. One time it said sports betting.

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Speaker 1: said sports betting, and you're like, Aha, got him. So

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Speaker 1: here's what John Mattier said. Tell me if you guys

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Speaker 1: buy this. Okay, the allegations that I once participated in

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Speaker 1: sports gambling are false. My previous Venmo descriptions did not

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Speaker 1: accurately portray the transaction in questions, but were instead inside

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Speaker 1: jokes between me and my friends. I have never bet

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Speaker 1: on sports. I understand the seriousness of the matter, but

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Speaker 1: recognize that taking out of context, those Venmo descriptions suggest otherwise.

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Speaker 1: And I believe, I believe we'll talk about this a

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Speaker 1: little bit in the podcast. But I have that same

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Speaker 1: whether it's coffee or my daughter Harper runs on coffee

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Speaker 1: and red Bull, and so I guarantee if my Venmo

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Speaker 1: venmo public. But if my Venmo was public. You'd see

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Speaker 1: money for crack. I was like, no, she was getting

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Speaker 1: So that's like trying to be funny. Makes sense, right,

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Speaker 1: I think? I think like we that's kind of become

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Speaker 2: I have a friend back in Detroit who who is

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Speaker 2: on like on venmo. If though, I make sure to

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Speaker 2: delete them all the time because if anyone saw a

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Speaker 2: that's that's just how we'll talk to each other.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's how you talk to each other. Why have

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Speaker 2: Them because I don't just if they're private, sure I

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Speaker 2: Everyone can see it, and that's like, okay, well I'm

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Speaker 3: At some point, Ryan B, my friend and I on

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Speaker 3: Venmo used to because Venmo didn't have any character limits,

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Speaker 3: so we would copy and paste like song lyrics to

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Speaker 3: So like if somebody were to look at Venmo, they'd

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Speaker 3: see the entirety of like this is how we do it,

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Speaker 3: just like sitting there on their Venmo like we do.

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Speaker 3: We do stuff like that where we're just messing with

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Speaker 3: media platform. So yeah, I totally believe that this dude

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Speaker 1: Basically, Yeah, yeah, I mean I actually should pull up

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Speaker 1: my Venmo and see what I've sent to people. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've also done like mine's not public, I don't think

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Speaker 1: now you said sometimes it'll pop public.

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Speaker 2: No, So I think the default is when you like

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Speaker 2: send something to someone, maybe there's a setting I'm missing,

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Speaker 2: but like every time I go to start a.

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Speaker 1: True lots of things you're missing.

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Speaker 4: That.

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Speaker 2: That is very true. That is extremely true. But it

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Speaker 2: always starts when you start the transaction blind. It'll just

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Speaker 2: set the status to public, and so before you've got

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Speaker 2: to make sure before you you exit out of it,

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Speaker 2: before you send it to switch it to private or

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Speaker 2: unlisted or whatever.

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Speaker 5: Hey guys, As someone who has never ever used Venmo,

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Speaker 5: unless absolutely forced to, what exactly is Venmo's rationale for

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Speaker 5: making any of their transactions public in the first place.

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Speaker 5: I'm not seeing the benefit of their business or towards

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Speaker 1: at your social media because all these sorority girls are

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Speaker 1: scantly dressed and they're doing dances, uh to celebrate rush which,

431
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Speaker 1: by the way, just so we're aware, like the the

432
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Speaker 1: high level rush checks, they're really annoying, like annoying, like you're, yeah,

433
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Speaker 1: you came to school to get an mrs degree. We

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Speaker 1: are well well aware. Anyway, the first my first thought

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Speaker 1: to my mind is again item, I'm not gonna tell

436
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Speaker 1: anybody how to raise their kids. And we did not

437
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Speaker 1: raise our kids to be super religious, to be more spiritual,

438
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Speaker 1: but very rarely did they step foot in temple, and

439
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Speaker 1: even more rare did they step foot in church. Their

440
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Speaker 1: moms Baptists, their dad's Jewish. And if I could go

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Speaker 1: back and do it again, not if I would have

442
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Speaker 1: forced religion but I think it would have made it

443
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Speaker 1: more part of what our family does, right, you know,

444
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Speaker 1: once a month we go to temple, once a month,

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Speaker 1: we go to church, you know, every other month or

446
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Speaker 1: something like that. Because there's nothing wrong with whatever your

447
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Speaker 1: path is to God, whatever can bring great balance to you.

448
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Speaker 1: But when you maybe over indulge or you overprotect, then

449
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's simply a case of they don't know

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Speaker 1: how to deal with it, right, don't know how to

451
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Speaker 1: deal with it. And I mean even Michael Porter's saying,

452
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Speaker 1: and do we have that quote where he said, hey, like,

453
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Speaker 1: you give me ten thousand bucks and I can make

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Speaker 1: you as all ten thousand bucks, Like yeah, as cursing

455
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Speaker 1: in it, so we will not bleep it out. I mean,

456
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Speaker 1: we know you can make a lot of money selling drugs.

457
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Speaker 1: You can't do that. You can make any like well,

458
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Speaker 1: drugs are not gambling, like okay, but gambling does have

459
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Speaker 1: a certain kind of drug addictive element to it. And

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, by the way, it's against the law, rightly,

461
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Speaker 1: So why is it against law? Well, because if you

462
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Speaker 1: can control your stats just for your boys for one games,

463
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Speaker 1: that makes those games illegitimate and once they become illegitimate.

464
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Speaker 1: Now it crosses over into entertainment, much like the WWE,

465
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Speaker 1: where that's why I've never been like, well he's a

466
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Speaker 1: world champion. Well somebody wrote in a script he's a

467
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Speaker 1: world champion. There's nothing really achieved in that anyway. I

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Speaker 1: just again, I'm I'm not telling you how to raise

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Speaker 1: your kids. And if you've ever spent time around Michael

470
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Speaker 1: Porter Junior, like he's a he's a really nice guy.

471
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Speaker 1: You know, he's a really nice guy. They're very well thought,

472
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Speaker 1: very well thought out, very well spoken. But and he admits,

473
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Speaker 1: you know, women is his vice, Well would it be

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Speaker 1: his vice if he had a more I don't want

475
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Speaker 1: to say normal. What's the mainstream? Is that that that

476
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Speaker 1: that's the term, right or more mainstream high school existence

477
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Speaker 1: where you have to and we do this with college

478
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Speaker 1: basketball with basketball players all the time. Right, guys go

479
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: to these prep schools and they live in like a

480
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Speaker 1: basketball house, and and they takes class with just themselves,

481
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Speaker 1: and then they go to college and we we try

482
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Speaker 1: and make our guys go to in person class as

483
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Speaker 1: much as possible, but they do more and more where

484
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Speaker 1: they're just in the facility, just in our locker room.

485
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Speaker 1: And in the gym, and they're like, you want to

486
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Speaker 1: go out and be people, and you know, within reason,

487
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Speaker 1: make the reasonable college mistakes of relationships and you know,

488
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Speaker 1: running having a budget and learning what to spend what

489
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Speaker 1: not to spend. Instead, we put them in a bubble,

490
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Speaker 1: and when the become adults and you'd let them out

491
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Speaker 1: of the bubble, they don't know how to they don't

492
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Speaker 1: know how to deal with it. I less you nod

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Speaker 1: in your head.

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Speaker 5: You're preaching to the choir. And a couple of things

495
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Speaker 5: have exacerbated that for this current generation because my kids

496
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Speaker 5: are much younger than your kids. Number one, the pandemic.

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Speaker 5: Number two the iPads. It's a constant struggle for us

498
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Speaker 5: as parents to get them away from their iPads, which.

499
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Speaker 1: You say, IM sorry, I was looking at my phone.

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Speaker 5: Precisely, and ironically I was too. I was on Venmo

501
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 5: coming up with creative descriptions. But that's another story. Because

502
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Speaker 5: in their iPads, they have all these online real life

503
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Speaker 5: world and they're like more well versed in these simulated

504
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 5: worlds than in real life unfortunately, So it's a constant

505
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Speaker 5: struggle to keep them away. Because when you and I

506
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 5: were growing up, we played outside all day, all weekend.

507
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 5: We roam the neighborhood going from sport to sport, and

508
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 5: kids just play differently these days, meaning they don't play

509
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Speaker 5: that way anymore because of accommodation of factors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you have got to get a set up

511
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Speaker 1: a play eight. Yes, you got to set up a

512
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: play eight, right, And then most most of the play

513
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Speaker 1: is like on a sports team, right, And they don't

514
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Speaker 1: play the sport outside of playing the sport with a uniform.

515
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Speaker 5: And they don't how to learn how to referee the

516
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Speaker 5: games themselves and settle disputes themselves because there's no like

517
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Speaker 5: pickup ball among kids hardly anymore.

518
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, So I'm not telling you that the

519
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Speaker 1: Porters raised heathens. This is not me say saying that.

520
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that extremes on either side. I

521
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Speaker 1: think we would all say like, hey, if you can

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Speaker 1: avoid those, And by extremes, it's like the kid that

523
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Speaker 1: had to get up in the morning and cook breakfast

524
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Speaker 1: for his family, for his little brother and make sure

525
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Speaker 1: he went to school, do you know, and he came

526
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Speaker 1: home and he was the dad of the house because

527
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Speaker 1: the parents were out of the house, or maybe there's

528
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Speaker 1: only one pair in the house or maybe use or

529
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Speaker 1: maybe they just kind of lived on their own. Like

530
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Speaker 1: that's one extreme to where they don't have the support

531
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Speaker 1: system needed. The other extreme is to where you bubble them.

532
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Speaker 1: They don't have sleepovers, not allowed to do that stuff

533
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Speaker 1: because you don't know what happens to those sleepovers. I'm like, yeah,

534
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean men, first naked girl I ever saw fast

535
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Speaker 1: times a Ridgemont High, right, the cool kid just moved

536
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Speaker 1: in down the street, got to have a sleepover, Like

537
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Speaker 1: what is this? We get to watch naked girls and

538
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: nobody covers my eyes and we're watching it like this

539
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Speaker 1: is cool. Stuff happens to sleepboards. It's the everything in

540
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Speaker 1: moderation sort of argument. Everything in moderations. Thanks for listening

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543
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544
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545
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547
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Speaker 1: was out of live golf with with a longtime golf fan,

548
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Speaker 1: t uh Not Tiger Woods Colin Cowherd over the weekend.

549
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Speaker 1: Can you teach our boy how to wear a hat?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: For a guy who for a guy who always has

552
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Speaker 1: a problem with somebody wearing a hat backwards, he doesn't

553
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: know how to wear a hat forwards, Like you don't

554
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: wear hat. You don't wear a hat on top of

555
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: your hair like that where the hair shows.

556
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, just when you got when you got good hair.

557
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 7: I used to wearing them, you know.

558
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, No, I wear them all the time because

559
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Speaker 1: I get terrible were Yeah, We've talked about this. This

560
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Speaker 1: is the Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Know

561
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: you live, you live in general. I'm not going to

562
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: give people away where you live, but you live in Phoenix. Right.

563
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: Does anyone in Phoenix call the Diamondbacks the Snakes?

564
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Speaker 7: Uh? No, I'll be honest. I mean I've been here

565
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 7: now three or four years. Not many Diamondbacks come both happening.

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Speaker 1: As I said, like once they uh, what's my man's name?

567
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: They traded to? Uh the Cardinals? Uh, Paul Paul gold Schmidt. Right.

568
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Speaker 1: We used to do a segment when I was on

569
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Speaker 1: one of my other networks called Nobody Gives a Schmidt

570
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: and it was like all the great things Paul gold

571
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: Schmidt does but nobody actually pays attention to because he

572
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Speaker 1: plays for the Diamondbacks is a real thing. It's called nobody.

573
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Speaker 1: Nobody gives a Schmidt And uh anyway, yes, there's not

574
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Speaker 1: a lot even in the even in the Valley of

575
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Speaker 1: the Sun, nobody nobody's like, hey man, how about those snakes?

576
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 7: No, definitely, yeah, the rattlesnakes in the cactus you're walking around.

577
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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh okay. As a bunch, how did you think

578
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: Shador played?

579
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Speaker 7: Well? I mean he made a couple of really nice throws.

580
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 7: So like, in an individual basis, I kind of on

581
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 7: the podcast last week tried to do like a dues

582
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Speaker 7: and does when he comes to looking att preseason and

583
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Speaker 7: at the end of the day, making plays regardless whether

584
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Speaker 7: you're going up against me or you or going up

585
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Speaker 7: against a you know, a starting All pro is always

586
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Speaker 7: a good thing. So being positive making plays. Obviously every

587
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Speaker 7: position is differently different, but quarterback supposed to play down

588
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 7: the field completions, touchdown throws. It's a good thing. But

589
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 7: like coaches can be pretty rigid when it comes to

590
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Speaker 7: quarterback play their offense. So when I saw that it

591
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 7: came out that he's still the four string quarterback. People

592
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Speaker 7: like Jimmy Haslan can say what he wants. They draft that.

593
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Speaker 7: They like Dylan Gabriel more in Shador. They would to

594
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Speaker 7: drafted Chador in the third round, like I don't think

595
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Speaker 7: they ever wanted it. Now this is where they have

596
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Speaker 7: to be careful. There comes a tsunami of publicity because

597
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Speaker 7: of this individual. I think k kind of called it

598
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Speaker 7: like a Tebow like thing. Now should Door is a

599
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 7: way better passer than Tebow, But like they better be

600
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 7: careful because that's the easiest way to get fired when

601
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 7: you're probably gonna suck anyway, Just play the guy.

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Speaker 1: I'd like it to. I think if he get if

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Speaker 1: he does get cut, it'll be like Kaepernick where anytime

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Speaker 1: a quarterback goes down to be like, you know, you

605
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Speaker 1: should sign a Shador Sanders because he can. He can.

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Speaker 1: He also just couldn't help himself where he showed up

607
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Speaker 1: with somebody else pulling his bag, right, he had his

608
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Speaker 1: little he had his guy, his videographer and a dude

609
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Speaker 1: pulling his bag. He just like couldn't help himself. Just

610
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Speaker 1: had to be that had to be that that guy. Okay,

611
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Speaker 1: So is it surprising to you that he did not

612
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Speaker 1: move up to depth chart.

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Speaker 7: Uh, not necessarily because when specifically Dylan Gabriel again, they

614
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Speaker 7: drafted him a bubble like on the second day where

615
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 7: you got to give some money and it's a valuable pick.

616
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Speaker 7: So like, just because he was injured and the guy

617
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 7: had a good preseason game, they're not going to make

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Speaker 7: a dramatic move. I do think though, once the regular

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Speaker 7: season starts, if they start losing games. You know, here's

620
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Speaker 7: the thing. If you do throw Dylan Gabriel in the

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Speaker 7: game and he looks bad and no one will want

622
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Speaker 7: to see him again. So it's like the Flaco Kenny

623
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Speaker 7: Pickett thing. Like I am not a canny Pickett guy

624
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Speaker 7: at all. Everyone can understand at least, I mean, there's

625
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Speaker 7: gonna be some crazies for like starting Placo week one,

626
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Speaker 7: you're doing it for the veteran players on the team.

627
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Speaker 7: But after a couple of weeks, if he kind of

628
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Speaker 7: looks like you did last year old and just I

629
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Speaker 7: mean like a forty year old over the hill guy,

630
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Speaker 7: you know, and they start Dylan Gabriel like week five

631
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Speaker 7: or Kenny Pickett and they.

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Speaker 1: Can't they can't cut that would be carrying five quarterbacks

633
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Speaker 1: because they still have Deshaun Watson. Right, They're not going

634
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Speaker 1: to how many guys.

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Speaker 7: DeShawn is just going to be on I R right,

636
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Speaker 7: so he won't take a fifty three man spot. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's inconceivable they take for maybe they

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00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 7: cut Blacko and just start. I don't know, I mean they.

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Speaker 1: Got they're not cutting Fla.

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Speaker 7: Why they Yeah, just white doesn't take two quarterbacks? You know,

641
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Speaker 7: this is this is why it's a bleach show and

642
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Speaker 7: why you'll never convince me and Jimmy have them that

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Speaker 7: they knew like, okays are idiots and both Ivy League

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Speaker 7: guys they didn't want to draft them, but now they

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Speaker 7: But okay.

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Speaker 1: That was It's really like honestly, it's really like Kaepernick

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Speaker 1: from this perspective, Okay, it's really easy to get him.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to get rid of them, right, it's just

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Speaker 1: hard to get rid of him.

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Speaker 7: And you would I mean based on that, Like I

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Speaker 7: mean again, like I'm not anti she, you wouldn't want

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Speaker 7: to get rid of them. I think she is a

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Speaker 7: better prospect. Like I'm not a big Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 1: No, Dylan Gabriel Gimbril is tiny. It doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: great arm and athlete. Yeah, outside of that, missus Lincoln,

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Speaker 1: how's the show? Right? Like he's that's who, That's who is?

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Speaker 1: All right? Well enough talking about the Browns are good?

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Speaker 1: What about Matt Stafford? What happens there?

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Speaker 7: I'd say that's the biggest red flag right now in

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Speaker 7: the NFL. Given a team that, I would say most

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Speaker 7: people two months ago was like, oh, yeah, the Rams

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Speaker 7: can compete to win the Super Bowl. The defense young

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Speaker 7: and ascending. They had DeVante Adams, who's motivated. They got

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Speaker 7: the elite coach Stafford, you shaw standos things, you know.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's weird because he's older than all these guys,

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Speaker 7: but we all agree when he's on they can go

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Speaker 7: toe to toe with anybody, as they did in that

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Speaker 7: playoff game. But like, is there a worst injury to have,

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Speaker 7: especially the older you get than the injury he has.

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Speaker 7: At least if you rolled your ankle or Jordan Love

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Speaker 7: like something. The pinky. It's very like, very black and white, like, hey,

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Speaker 7: you get this, you'll be good to go in a

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Speaker 7: couple of weeks. You'll be fine. The back thing he

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Speaker 7: throws Saturday, and like any older person knows. A couple

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Speaker 7: of days later, it's like, WHOA, this does not feel right,

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Speaker 7: and that's pretty scary being Doug. We see we saw

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Speaker 7: Steve Kurrr basketball coach being pain so Matt Stafford there

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Speaker 7: is no disputing his toughness. So when McVay says he's

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Speaker 7: going to go Monday five six days ago, that was

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Speaker 7: the plan and clearly he's it's not good. So here's

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Speaker 7: the thing you can tell me. He makes it back

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Speaker 7: for week one, but like, what's his body feel like?

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Speaker 7: I don't even know who they played week one, but

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Speaker 7: like on Monday after that game, right or he plays

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Speaker 7: a couple of weeks. It just is it going to

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Speaker 7: be an on and off thing all year? And I

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Speaker 7: don't care what McVeigh says about Jimmy Garoppolo calls him

688
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Speaker 7: the best backup in the league. I mean based on

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Speaker 7: the way he's played recently in the last couple of

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Speaker 7: years at post injuries too, He's not the same guy

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Speaker 7: the Rams would be. I don't want to be screwed

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Speaker 7: because they got the infrastructure there that it's not going

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Speaker 7: to be a two win team, but you can kiss

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Speaker 7: the high level competition of compete in the NFC, and

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Speaker 7: I'd even say the playoffs goodbye.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the poll of NFL personnel and they

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Speaker 1: had speaking of the Valley of the Sun, Murray's a

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Speaker 1: third tier quarterback? Yeah, where are you on Kyler Murray?

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Speaker 7: I agree? I mean, I think that that interception he

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Speaker 7: threw the other day against the Chiefs is him in

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Speaker 7: a nutshell because, like the Cults is the worst case scenario.

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Speaker 7: They drafted Anthony Richson. He just like he has had

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Speaker 7: no clue what's going on. I think Kyler knows what's

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Speaker 7: going on, he just can't really see right, So he's

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Speaker 7: got to move. And then as a decision maker because

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Speaker 7: he's got these like elite attributes and he half the

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Speaker 7: time makes the play kind of does some stupid stuff.

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Speaker 7: But like they can have a month stretch where they

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Speaker 7: their team is pretty talents. If you told me in

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Speaker 7: like October, you know, at the end of two months

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Speaker 7: they're like four and four and they just had they

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Speaker 7: went three and one in October. It's believable. Because he

713
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Speaker 7: can have good stretches. He also, for all the talented

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Speaker 7: guys can have a stretch where like you watch back

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Speaker 7: to back games like that one of the worst quarterbacks

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Speaker 7: in the NFL. You just can't trust them, So I

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Speaker 7: know they're like a hits her pick. Everyone's like, oh,

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Speaker 7: the Cardinals gonna make the playoffs? Like do you take

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Speaker 7: that bet? I will take the other side.

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Speaker 1: Stet Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the

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Speaker 1: where are you on? I mean, I know you were

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Speaker 1: in Chicago, so I'm guessing you got some Caleb Williams opinion.

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Speaker 1: Where are you and Caleb Williams?

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Speaker 7: Well, one thing is being there. It was my first

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Speaker 7: time kind of hanging out in this I wasn't even

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Speaker 7: we were in the suburbs. But you realize it's beautiful, big,

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Speaker 7: I mean, the most important Midwest city in terms of

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Speaker 7: size and finances. And then that little team up where

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Speaker 7: you live. I've been beating their butt for thirty plus years,

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Speaker 7: and there is there's just a worry there. And then

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Speaker 7: I'm getting on the plane flying home. You buy the Internet,

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Speaker 7: I'm like, Okay, you're gonna get a little Caleb vers Tua,

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Speaker 7: even if it only lasts a couple drives. I'm like,

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Speaker 7: that would be fine, then I'll pass out. The game

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Speaker 7: comes on. There he is in the tea shirt. I'm like,

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Speaker 7: you've got to be kidding. And my theory was, Doug is,

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Speaker 7: it's clearly been an up and down training camp. This

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Speaker 7: was not a preseason game of like seven other preseason

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Speaker 7: games going on right like Saturday, a bunch of games going.

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Speaker 7: It was a standalone game. So if you said, hey,

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Speaker 7: Caleb's in the game, millions of more people might just

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Speaker 7: tune in for that thirty minutes and if it goes bad,

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Speaker 7: it's the number one topic in football for the next

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Speaker 7: couple days. So I think he punted just knowing again

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Speaker 7: it could have gone well, but he didn't even want

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Speaker 7: to risk it in that situation because McDaniel, what the weekend?

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Speaker 7: Nitpick two? All we want, but it's much more secure

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Speaker 7: about like two of those out there. It's gonna look

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Speaker 7: like he'll be fine. They had to be a little nervous,

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Speaker 7: like what if it doesn't look good? And I'm not

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Speaker 7: saying like I believe Ben Johnson's a good coach, but

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Speaker 7: I do think that he's no dummy to understand the

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Speaker 7: negativity and the tsunami of the talk that would have came.

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Speaker 7: So that's because they, well, no one else played. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I think it's easy to make that decision once you realize, yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's not even throwing Caleb.

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Speaker 1: Lots of lots of teams actually did have guys that played.

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Speaker 1: I'm ironically ironically enough, uh, middle cooff. And the next

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Speaker 1: time you come to Chicago and you're on the you know,

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Speaker 1: on the north side, you could drive you know, two

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Speaker 1: hours and twenty minutes further and we could actually hang

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Speaker 1: and you could see that franchise that's won thirteen championships.

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Speaker 7: Or I need that next time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just there's an invite. I know a guy,

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Speaker 1: I know lots of guys there anyway, Johnny, great stuff.

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Speaker 1: But next time you see Cowlhart, let's teach the meut

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Speaker 1: wear a ball cap. Okaye?

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Speaker 7: Okay?

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Speaker 1: guys notice that with the you see colling on with

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Speaker 1: live golf, saw I saw the pictures. Did you notice

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Speaker 1: that happen? Yeah? Yeah, and did you think the same thing.

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Speaker 1: You're like, you've never worn a hat.

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Speaker 2: I know his I know his opinion on wearing hat

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Speaker 2: backwards is like.

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Speaker 1: What's amazing? Is Colin? Now He's like going like full

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Speaker 1: Midwest Like you know these golf courses are amazing. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: everybody knows that in Chicago's like I really amazing. It's

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Speaker 1: like you're playing golfs like, oh yeah, I'm really working

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Speaker 1: on my game. I'm getting into it. Like, dude, I've

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Speaker 1: played golf with you. Your add creeps in at like

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Speaker 1: the tenth hole. You're like, well, like, if you can

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Speaker 1: make it past whole fourteen. Don't get me wrong, I

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Speaker 1: get the golf add as well. You're like, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: you know my thing is I I don't go to

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Speaker 1: the range. Well if I do not for long enough,

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Speaker 1: so it takes me like four holes to get looped

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Speaker 1: up ready to go. Then you know, you crack your

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Speaker 1: first beer or whatever, then I'm good. Then I get

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Speaker 1: to like sixteen seventeen, I'm like, oh man, why did

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Speaker 1: I do this? This is a long day. My back's

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Speaker 1: killing me, killing me, killing me,