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Speaker 1: This is the Talking Cowboys break streaming live on Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys app. Breaking

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Speaker 1: news from the Star in Frisco. The Cowboys have acquired

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Speaker 1: a new wide receiver, a potential number one wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper headed to Dallas for a twenty nineteen first

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Speaker 1: round draft pick. Eats emergency podcast time inside the SWC

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Speaker 1: more BC Mortgage Studio to break it all down. Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, Flyboy, David Hellman and thank you. Appreciate that

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Speaker 1: jacket over there, Maverick, Yeah, Iceman, Mickey Spagnola over there

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Speaker 1: as well. Brian brought us goose can't help. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: love it, I love it. I love it. Football death

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Speaker 1: always right. I love you, Brian. You back upstairs breaking

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Speaker 1: down tape of miss six lighter or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I meant Merlin beat Merlin. Yeah you stink. Ye. That's well.

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Speaker 1: This guy doesn't stick, right, No, he doesn't stack. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's let's break it all. You said potential number one.

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Speaker 1: I was like, hed better be, better be for a

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Speaker 1: first round pick, right, yeah, this guy can play, play

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah no, And I went through all

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Speaker 1: the games of twenty eighteen, he got a concussion in London,

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Speaker 1: took a hit right across the middle and it knocked

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Speaker 1: him into the protocol. And then I went back and

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Speaker 1: watched every single game he played in twenty seventeen, the

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Speaker 1: whole season, every ball thrown to him, and people are

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Speaker 1: going to talk about this as a guy that is

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Speaker 1: inconsistent with his hands. What I found looking at this

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Speaker 1: player is he is very capable of making a circus catch.

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Speaker 1: I mean that is something he can absolutely do. He

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Speaker 1: can he can go anywhere you want on the field.

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Speaker 1: The drops that I found that heat the problems with

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Speaker 1: his drops, there were a couple of them in the

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Speaker 1: in the red zone where there was a contested ball

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Speaker 1: with a defender. I felt like I had a really

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Speaker 1: good position on him. And in there where a couple

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Speaker 1: others where he was on the move where he was

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Speaker 1: like going to try and run before he had caught

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Speaker 1: the football. And he is a guy that will take

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Speaker 1: the ball north and south in a hurry. So when

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Speaker 1: they throw it to him, he's going to play on

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Speaker 1: the move. Like I said, they use him in a

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Speaker 1: lot of different levels. He was making plays on all

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Speaker 1: the different levels, and so you know that's something that

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Speaker 1: you have to think about. Okay, is he just gonna

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Speaker 1: line up play as the X. No. I think you

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Speaker 1: could play this guy a bunch of different spots. But

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Speaker 1: this guy is clearly a number one wide receiver when

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Speaker 1: you watch him play. He has got those traits and

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Speaker 1: he's got the ability and he's got the ability to

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Speaker 1: make plays down the field. I mean you, if you

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Speaker 1: want to watch a game of him playing last year,

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Speaker 1: watch the Kansas City game, you know, when they were

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Speaker 1: playing in the game in Oakland, and he was outstanding

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Speaker 1: in that game. So he's a guy, big body guy

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Speaker 1: as far as you know, a guy getting down the field.

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Speaker 1: The targets to him, stuff like that, he can body up,

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Speaker 1: he can go get it, he can high point. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of really positive things about this guy. So

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Speaker 1: will defensive coordinators think the same thing and pay attention

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Speaker 1: to him to draw some they will basically coverage off

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. They will. And that's why I

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Speaker 1: said potential number one, because you got to have that right. No, No,

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Speaker 1: that you don't make this trade if you don't think

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Speaker 1: this guy's a number one wide receiver and he is

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Speaker 1: a number one wide receiver. He's got he has got that,

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Speaker 1: he's got those those traits. The needle to double him.

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Speaker 1: I think that you I think that they will have

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Speaker 1: to find ways to dub them because the questions will be, though,

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Speaker 1: can you get him the football enough? That's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the questions you have and you're gonna are you gonna

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Speaker 1: make people to get respected? You have to get the

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Speaker 1: football to him. But that's but he is capable of

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Speaker 1: running every single route you want. He's capable of playing

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. He has got that ability. When

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Speaker 1: he gets down in the goal line and he and

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Speaker 1: he's got to finish, he will finish. That's the type

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Speaker 1: of player he is. And I think that's where I'm

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Speaker 1: at Brian thinking about this is there's there's a lot

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Speaker 1: to break down with the trade itself and the player

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Speaker 1: and the needed receiver. But y'all agreement with me that

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Speaker 1: just this entire thing, all levels of it, is about

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Well, I don't know. I mean, I thought

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Speaker 1: you were going to go somewhere else. Yeah, I thought

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Speaker 1: was too. Where did you think I was gonna? That

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Speaker 1: sounds great? Number One? How good does he have to

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Speaker 1: be to be sitting here in April twenty eighth for

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Speaker 1: Like how good does he have to be to kind

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Speaker 1: of justify that. That's my only issue And I'm letting

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Speaker 1: history get to me here because I was all on

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Speaker 1: board where Joey Galloway didn't work out. I was pretty

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Speaker 1: know everything is different. I just think, God, that is

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Speaker 1: too much, too much for a guy that we think

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Speaker 1: is pretty good. I just wonder if that if if

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Speaker 1: he's gonna really work here with Dak and all the

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Speaker 1: other issues. I like, the two one just seems high

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Speaker 1: for me. That's a good point, by the way, to

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Speaker 1: bring up this is the third time this century the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have traded at least a first round pick for

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver mid season. Joey Galloway in two thousand

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Speaker 1: two first round picks. This cost less than that, and

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Speaker 1: Roy Williams, I believe Mick it was a first, a third,

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Speaker 1: and swapping late round picks six and then they got

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Speaker 1: a seventh back. Yeah, but yeah, history is playing into

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Speaker 1: maybe the reaction to this thing. It's like, Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be worth it this time, and I think I'm

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Speaker 1: already I think I'm already making peace with that, to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, because Marie Cooper's twenty four years old. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's six months older than Calvin Ridley. Yeah, so he

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Speaker 1: is a young guy who's already seasoned in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He's under contract for at least a season and a half.

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Speaker 1: Now nine games season, twenty five games, you get him

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Speaker 1: twenty five games. Average that out, you're gonna pay him

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Speaker 1: a minute, so like seven million, it comes out. Well,

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Speaker 1: his base salary for this year was four it was

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Speaker 1: four eleven. Just a reset for guys people that don't

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Speaker 1: know about this guy, who don't know a ton about him.

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Speaker 1: Number four overall pick in twenty fifteen by the Raiders

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Speaker 1: out of Alabama. Decorated college career. As Dave said, he's

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Speaker 1: on his fourth season and you can lock in his

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Speaker 1: you will walk in his fifth year option, so you

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Speaker 1: have him for the rest of this year and next

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Speaker 1: at least, which Yeah, fifty year options guaranteed, Yes, guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: So they pick up to guarantee. Yeah, you can read negotiated,

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Speaker 1: but they're looking at it as a two year deal

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Speaker 1: for fourteen point four million, cheaper than Sammy Watkins. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is right to go. If you think about paying it,

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Speaker 1: big money. Yeah, I suppose, Yeah, yeah, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: at peace with the price. I mean, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do it, okay, And Amari Cooper is probably better than

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Speaker 1: whatever you're going to find in the draft. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just go, just go through the history of the NFL draft.

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Speaker 1: Just go through the last three years of the NFL draft.

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Speaker 1: Think about the receivers that have been selecting this draft.

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Speaker 1: I see, you've got a nicely I do. How about

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Speaker 1: Kevin White, DeVante Parker, Nelson Aguilar, Rashard Perriman, Corey Coleman,

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Speaker 1: Will Fuller, Josh Dotson, Lakon Treadwell, Corey Davis, Mike Williams,

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Speaker 1: John Ross. It's an indictment on college football. It's an

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Speaker 1: indictment on people trying to pick wide receivers that aren't

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Speaker 1: worth a crap. Well, they look at what they did

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Speaker 1: in college and look at numbers, and they're not real

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Speaker 1: routes in college that's run into spots and stopping and

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Speaker 1: catching the ball. This guy, I mean, I can say

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Speaker 1: we were on treadwell. I mean that that's probably one

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Speaker 1: one of the one guy that we were probably the

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Speaker 1: in with this case, assuming that this year is not

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Speaker 1: an indication of him falling off the cliff. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: an accomplished receiver where you got to go through the

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Speaker 1: growing pains. If you draft a wide receiver, catch ready

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Speaker 1: may go, put him out there and play. That's what

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Speaker 1: they question. The only question I have. I don't have

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Speaker 1: a problem with giving up the pick. I really don't know,

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Speaker 1: absolutely not, absolutely not. I'm trying to do all I

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Speaker 1: can to help my quarterback. But but the quarterback helped himself.

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest question we have to ask. And that

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Speaker 1: that's kind of where I'm at. That's where I was

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Speaker 1: going a minute ago. Is this this whole thing is

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Speaker 1: about the future of Dak. Press got him for what

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Speaker 1: two more years? Well, you could probably a fourth year

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Speaker 1: in a franchise year if you have to. This trade

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Speaker 1: changes my line of thinking a lot with what was

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Speaker 1: what was trending with Dac. I mean even as recently

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Speaker 1: as like three weeks ago, I said on our show.

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, play this thing out. This is

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Speaker 1: like an audition and if if Dak's not good enough,

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Speaker 1: you can always draft a guy. Well you can't do

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Speaker 1: that in twenty nineteen. Now, yeah, unless you draft Drew

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Speaker 1: hell and strike gold. Probably not yet lucky with the

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Speaker 1: fourth round guy, didn't you they're not? Yeah, which, and

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Speaker 1: now half the fan base is trying to get rid

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Speaker 1: of him, like he's not this, Yeah, he's not the

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Speaker 1: unilateral let's not worry about the fan base. Well you

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Speaker 1: get my point. Yes, I understand you're not. You are

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Speaker 1: not completely sold that you have the answer at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But the calcure are going in and like there's I mean,

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Speaker 1: Dak is the guy for the time being, is what

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Speaker 1: this trade tells. So does this guy help Dak? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: He does. You know you know about that. I was

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Speaker 1: looking at a receiver. I was looking at the things

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Speaker 1: I like about him? Is what you said, North, going North.

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Speaker 1: He's got nineteen touchdowns and eleven of them or thirty

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Speaker 1: this is just last year, and he's got a sixty

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Speaker 1: eight in that game. You're talking about Kansas City forty

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Speaker 1: five and a thirty eight. He's got eleven over thirty

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Speaker 1: yards and Dez Bryant seventy seventy five touchdowns, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: all time leader, and he played eight years, nine years,

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Speaker 1: eight years. He had nineteen at those touchdowns, nineteen touchdowns

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Speaker 1: of thirty or more. Different player, different receiver, But just

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Speaker 1: saying this is the type of guy that's different. Eleven

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Speaker 1: in three years and some change here and nineteen for

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Speaker 1: Dez Bryant. So is he gonna go up and make

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Speaker 1: plays like him? I don't know, but all I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: Dak needs. We saw it yesterday, you know they needed,

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Speaker 1: still need to do it more. In my opinion, Is

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Speaker 1: he gonna help Dak or is he gonna help Zeke?

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Speaker 1: Maybe both? Is he gonna help Michael Gallup cann he

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Speaker 1: helped the offensive line? Yeah, there you go. That's a

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Speaker 1: bigger question. Well that's for another show. I know we're

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Speaker 1: talking about this, and we've said this about no matter

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Speaker 1: who's playing receiver, all the pieces have to work for

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Speaker 1: you to get the downfield passing game going, and this

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Speaker 1: does start up front, and the protection upfront was not

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Speaker 1: good in the game yesterday, overall until really the last

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Speaker 1: couple series. I felt like, anyone what I want to know?

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Speaker 1: And he's looked at the table and I'll just ask you.

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Speaker 1: a good record if Philly makes this move, or New

425
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 1: England or whatever. But I mean, and and it's you know,

426
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see how it works. Let's see again

427
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 1: if Philly makes this move, everybody's oh, God, brought us

428
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,439
Speaker 1: Dallas can't do anything like this? Well I can't they do?

429
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: You know? Did you make this move? And now everybody's scared?

430
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: And wasn't there a was there a we're flying back

431
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 1: as this is breaking and we're doing our homework on it. Uh?

432
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: Is there a report the Philly was in on this

433
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: second round? Pick. Okay, so you know you're keeping him

434
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 1: away from them too. By the way, they're three and four,

435
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 1: Redskins are four and two. But there's the Cowboys still

436
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: have six division games to control their own destiny. To

437
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: help this offense anyway you can for game four more,

438
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: you're right out of six, Yes, thank you. It worries

439
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 1: and divisions there after watching Alex Smith yesterday, you think

440
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: none doing this? Oh, Adrian Peterson played pretty damn yes

441
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,719
Speaker 1: he did, and they scored thirteen points. Nick doesn't buy it.

442
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 1: He ran for ninety nine person. It was Alex. He

443
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: ran for ninety nine years. That's the hope right there,

444
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 1: is that Alex Smith stays in there and keeps doing

445
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: dumb things. And and I understand he won the game, congratulations,

446
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 1: but he you know, he it was Christmas and he

447
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: had a present for you going here. I'm gonna run

448
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: out of bounds. Yeah, and that Jake Grun tried to

449
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 1: give you one two at the end. Yeah. Um, But

450
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: you know, I I'm gonna be what's it, who's from

451
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 1: fire Round? Joe? Joe? Can I be Joe from firemund real? Yes? Well,

452
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: if you're gonna give a first round pick for Maray Cooper,

453
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you give a third round pick or a

454
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: fourth round pick for Josh Gordon? Drugs? Painting the you

455
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: know what drugs are we right, he's down to his

456
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 1: last strike in the NFL and he basically you give it,

457
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: you give it one or two for him, and it's

458
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: and he's and he's one. You know, I'm just saying,

459
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: just a fifth round Trump, just trump the Patriots. I mean,

460
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: but it's hard to beat that. Drugs. Drugs. There were

461
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: reports before this got done that Marie Cooper didn't love football.

462
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: That was like, there's people saying that this the guy

463
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: doesn't like football, and well they did it, so I

464
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: don't buy that. Yeah, there are guys with gold jackets

465
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: that didn't like football. I wouldn't. I think I would,

466
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: oh absolutely, And it wouldn't stop anything. It wouldn't stop

467
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: me at all. I'd rather have h Sanders'd rather have

468
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon for a fifth I think do this deal

469
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: for a one. I think the Cowboys will well, I

470
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: think there's a ring of honor player for the Cowboys

471
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: that didn't love football. Oh, who's that? I just said?

472
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: A ring of honor player? Oh? A player? Yeah, okay

473
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: in the Ring of honor. Maybe not there yet, maybe

474
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: he'll be, maybe he's there. I don't know the implier

475
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: um implications. I mean, I'm still trying to wrap my

476
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: head around this thing, and I don't I don't dislike it,

477
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: and I'm, like I said, I'm at peace with the price,

478
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: but I'm skeptical that it's gonna make this. You just

479
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: want to continue to watch what's going on out there? No,

480
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: but is anybody tired of that yet? I'm super tired, serious,

481
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: because you know what you guys tired? Let me let

482
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: me tired, very tired of it. Yeah. I basically what

483
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I'm not convinced that this move in

484
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: the middle of the season. I'm trying. I'm doing whatever

485
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: I can not to be tired. And is it because

486
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: it's the middle of the season, Meaning what, well, you

487
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: just said this move in the middle of the season.

488
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: Are you worry that it's gonna take them too long? Yeah?

489
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: There's get going and here's where you get going. And

490
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: like the problems with this offense have looked so widespread

491
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: and bad that like I don't really buy this, just

492
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: like we're just one receiver away from and just looking great.

493
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: I don't know if if you could have traded a

494
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: one for something else, what would you've gone and got.

495
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to trade a one. If you could

496
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: have traded a one for something else, what could you've got?

497
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: This is probably the best possible scenario. Patrick Peterson, you know,

498
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned that on the plane, Mick, and I was like,

499
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: does Patrick Peterson make this team? You don't. What I

500
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: wonder is if you called around to other teams and

501
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: they were they were every thing we weren't going to

502
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: do that, we wouldn't have done. No. But I'm just saying,

503
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: if you were going just to say we're gonna trade

504
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: a number one, we're gonna trade a first round pick

505
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: for a number one receiver or any receiver first round pick,

506
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: if you called everybody in the league, I mean, where

507
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper be the best one? I mean, would there

508
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: be some guys that are like, we'll get rid of one,

509
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: trade Digs or I mean somebody I don't know. I wonder,

510
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: but twenty four years old, with with that kind of

511
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: a body and that kind of you know, skins on

512
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: the wall, already nineteen career touchdowns, I believe. I mean

513
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: there's some things to like. And and this isn't just

514
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: about the next ten games. This is about or nine games.

515
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: It's not about that maybe ten. I'm putting them in

516
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Um I think that that. Yeah, No, I

517
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: mean they have a chance. Like you said, they gotta

518
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: win this division, and they could still do that. But

519
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: I wonder if this is thing like, let's come here,

520
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: let's figure this thing out. But he's gonna be twenty

521
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: five next year. Who knows what the staff is gonna

522
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: look like, quarterback, all that stuff. We got a young,

523
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: polished receiver that we need to tweak a little bit

524
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: and give him some help. By the way, in the interim,

525
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: there are reports he suffered a concussion Week six, seat

526
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: Seattle in London. I watched it. He doesn't even know.

527
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: Let's going. Raiders were off last week. Okay, so William

528
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: Dynamite drop in there we go. H so, so gotta

529
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: pass a physical to get Yeah, well they're off this

530
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: week gets double by. I'm just saying, still saying, there's

531
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: a chance to get your pick back because they haven't

532
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: turned They hadn't turned the trade in yet. They turned

533
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: it in before three o'clock. They have agreed to this trade.

534
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: Yes they have. I think fans are that are listening

535
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: now should be a little bit more excited about it,

536
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: because here's a guy that not only put some stats

537
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: out there receivers that are out there, but he loves

538
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: the draft and loves picks and in first round pick

539
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: and is willing to say, you know what, this guy

540
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: will help your team. He helps him right now. He'll

541
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 1: probably be better than anybody you're taking next year. I

542
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: don't think it's I don't think it's a stretch to say.

543
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: And like I said, we haven't gotten into the draft study,

544
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: but I got a show Thursday. We do. I gotta

545
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: get to work on that. But this is not this

546
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: is not This star leaden receiver class like Amari Cooper

547
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: is absolutely better than whatever you're going to get in

548
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: this draft. And he's not that much older, so you

549
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 1: will to play. In the front office, we're looking at

550
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: that saying, okay, what are our options in a you

551
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: make a deal like this when you own the team

552
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: and you're the general manager, Well, sure, absolutely, because you

553
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: know there's guys that you know and it's right or wrong,

554
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: but that's the type you know, that's a bold deal.

555
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: To do. And there's not many general managers who would

556
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: make this trade just because of job security. But I

557
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: think he's trying to make his football team better. I

558
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: think he's like us. I think he's like me. I

559
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: think he's tired of watching what's going on at wide receiver.

560
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: He can't knock him. You can't knock him for trying.

561
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: But I guess, and really I guess. My main point

562
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: is and again to say it for the fifth time,

563
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: like I don't know that this is this is gonna matter.

564
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: You're worried about Dak getting him the ball, just Dak

565
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: has to play better, Dak has to be better. Is

566
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: so what happened to him? Okay, yeah, I've been the

567
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: first twenty four games were a mirage. I mean they

568
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: certainly look like it right now. Okay, but what's changed

569
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: that defaultive coordinators all summer long just figure it out?

570
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: And in my opinion that I said, all right, we

571
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: are gonna make him beat us on the outside. We're

572
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: gonna take away easy throws for him, and we you know,

573
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: when we want to kind of clamp down the middle,

574
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna just make him to go make

575
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: a play and Dez was making some but not many.

576
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: He maybe he needs more. He needs a guy that

577
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: teams are really scared of. So why didn't they do

578
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: that after his rookie year because the first eight games

579
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: last year they were scoring twenty eight points a game

580
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: and he was carrying this team on his back. This

581
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: offensive line is they can't hang their hat on the

582
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: start quarterbacks. They can't hang their hat on this offensive

583
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: line right now. They gave up four sacks, nine quarterback

584
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: hits and four penalties yesterday, especially on the road, and

585
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: you're quarterback. There was the best quarterback on the field. Yeah,

586
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't think the quarterback lost that game. I think

587
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is, no, he does he

588
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: see everything. No he doesn't. That's not his game. But

589
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: the fact is that we have thought this offensive line

590
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: is elade or the best or one of the top

591
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: five wars. It's not even close. And you know the

592
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: other thing too, is whether Dez was on this team

593
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: this year or not. Whoever you got a receiver, we've

594
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: seen it when Zeke isn't Zeke and he's not productive

595
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: and he's got fifteen carries for thirty four yards in

596
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: this game. They're not gonna win. They just don't. They

597
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: have to get something out of Zeke and it's not

598
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: all on him if he's getting hit in the backfield

599
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: most time. How about the last two road games he's

600
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: got thirty five carries for eighty eight yards. That's not

601
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: even three yards a carry. Oh, it's it's a quarterback,

602
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: far be it? Yes? Yes, actually, yes, that there's there's

603
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: part of that too, the fact that he can't throw

604
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: him out. He can't throw him out Jacksonville take Place.

605
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: Maybe they suck. I don't know. Maybe they say they

606
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: were the frauds emphatically. You might be right. I think

607
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: that they like they're stubborn, that they played their game

608
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 1: and and they didn't expect these guys to beat them,

609
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: and it kind of snowball there. I mean, their defense

610
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: played pretty well, but I mean they were they were cocky.

611
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: They said, you know, we're gonna put Tyler Patman on.

612
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: You know that took a half to figure that out.

613
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: That wouldn't work. What I don't understand is why we

614
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: see this back and forth stuff with the like the

615
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: play calling, with the stuff that really works, and like

616
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: Dak you know, he's running and he's throwing deep against

617
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: the Giants and then Seattle. We just don't see it.

618
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: And then they come back against Jacksonville. He's running more

619
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: than he's ever had, and they throw some deep balls,

620
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: even if they don't complete all of them, they throw some,

621
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: and then come back this weekend. We don't really see

622
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: it except for the Gallop touchdown. But I mean, I

623
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: don't think Washington played, you know, like read option every

624
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: time and took that away. I just don't think that

625
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: they're they're playing Dak the way that he should be playing.

626
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: Washington kick their ass up front. Up front, there was

627
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: a lot I mean, there was a lot of square

628
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: bodies up there and a lot of guys that didn't

629
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: ever got turned and they never could get the point

630
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: of attack. That cleaned up Maybe that that and they

631
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: played and they played a lot of five man front. Yeah,

632
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: that the linebackers were on the line of scrimmage. They

633
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: were not going to let you capture that edge. His

634
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: team needs a lot of things and they need a

635
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: tight end too. Oh god, that's we talked about in

636
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: the pregame show yesterday, that that's what those guys are all.

637
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: How bad is he hurt by the way he got

638
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: a bruise, a very bad bruise knee. It's swelled up

639
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: and he got hit on the knee. So it didn't

640
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: sound like it was a It didn't sound like a

641
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: ligament when I talked to him in the locker room. Yeah. Uh,

642
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: he walked. Just just by seeing him walking around, he

643
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: was on the trip. Yeah, Cowboys took that trip today.

644
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: There are some to the finished my point. I was

645
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: sounding kind of big National Museum of African American History

646
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: and culture. They took that scheduled trip. Great trip, by

647
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: the way. We were happy to be part of that. Um. Yeah,

648
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: so that's another question. I didn't let me throw that

649
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: something else about that too before people are trying to

650
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: be them up for that. A lot of that came

651
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: from the players as well. I mean, this is something

652
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: that you know, with the bye week that they were

653
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: coming into this game and going to Washington, and this

654
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: was an idea by some of the players, and I

655
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys you know that they saw they thought

656
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: it was a good idea as well. Uh, this is

657
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: a sport of life in football. Yeah, I really I

658
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: haven't seen even a smidge of like negative feedback about it.

659
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: I'll give you one. I couldn't believe it. Some guy

660
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: with his home video camera goes up to Sean Lee

661
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: and asked him about the trip, what was the museum like?

662
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: And then he asked him, do you think that Jerry

663
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: Jones did this to side up to Donald Trump? Boy?

664
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: And I looked at him, and Sean just kept walking.

665
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: He didn't answer. I go, you're shameless, and he just

666
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: kind of walked. So I'm guessing he was working for

667
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: one of those people. Did spend TNZ or something? You

668
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: just gave him twenty seconds airtime? Well he doesn't, he

669
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: doesn't know. He didn't look smart enough to listen to

670
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: us fair enough, all right. I just thought it was cheap.

671
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: Well yeah, okay, sure because the other people, if you saw,

672
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: everybody was kind of like they were, hey, it's the cowboys.

673
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: Some lady was out there yelling so and she was

674
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if she was foreign or what, but she's, oh,

675
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: it's America's team, and she kept going on. And I

676
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: thought it was funny, right, But they kind of appreciated

677
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: seeing them there, appreciate if you win some more. Except

678
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: for them. We got off the bus and the Redskins

679
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: fans that were across the Street shirt. Yeah, bragging rights

680
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: for a week. Yeah, they do. They'll see him again

681
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: later this year. But they got Amari Cooper now in

682
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: the fold to help himunt. We think it's an agreed

683
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: upon trade. Un physicals, any physicals. It's right, it's accurate,

684
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: it is Yet they do, especially coming especially coming off

685
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: a concussion. Yeah, any final thoughts, I know we're gonna

686
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: hit this probably in twelve hours or so. Okay with

687
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: what they just did, Yeah, I am I you know,

688
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: could they have not done it for a second? Clearly not.

689
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so. I think

690
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: that you had to find a way to you know,

691
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: if if Philadelphia was involved, and you know other teams,

692
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: and I know the guy, the guy who reported about

693
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: Philadelphia involved, he's got a connection there. So they would

694
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: rather get their second than the Cowboys second. They would

695
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: rather he would rather have They would rather probably have

696
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: your your first or second, for sure. But I mean

697
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: when they read the Cowboys are sitting there at three

698
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: and four and no one thinks much of them, and

699
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: they're the defending Super Bowl champs, wouldn't you take the

700
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys second? If everything was equal, They're they're they're thinking

701
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: that their their second might be worse than yours. They

702
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: should have probably taken Philadelphia's, but you offered the war.

703
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: Maybe they gave him a second and something else, or

704
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: also that's how you leverage people. He said, well, we

705
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: already got this offer for a second from Philly, So no,

706
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's got to think happened. Yeah, absolutely well

707
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: and maybe yeah, and maybe the fact that it was

708
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: a division rival that has pulled off trades that has

709
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: helped them in the past, maybe that spurred the Cowboys

710
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: to another level of action, like we're not no, we're

711
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: not gonna let this be a gy E two point zero.

712
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: Maybe I purely well, just know that that trade went

713
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: down in the museum and David and I kind of

714
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: saw it. I think that was I mean, you never

715
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: actually think that that's what's happening. I mean I've seen

716
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones and Will McClay field a million phone calls. Yeah,

717
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: I mean, well fielding a call and it's like, well,

718
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: it could be no any phone call. I think Mick

719
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: is right, like literally like seventy five percent of the

720
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: team is off dueing one thing, and like Mickey hung

721
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: behind because he had a one oh five three hit

722
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: and I'm reading, you know, some plaques about something or other,

723
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I just see Stephen Jones

724
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: over in the corner on looking taking a very serious

725
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: phone call. I was like, what are the tour guides

726
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: will shoot us? You gotta catch up, you gotta catch up.

727
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: And it's like okay. Then I cut up, and then

728
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: I was a little too loud, and Jerry looked at

729
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: me and he goes, oh, okay, Yeah, he didn't tell

730
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: Stephen to cop quiet. At the end of the day,

731
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fine with this. I get what you're saying.

732
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta do something, because what's we'll do

733
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: what I'm trying. I'm you know what, I'm trying to

734
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: win this division. I really am. I'm trying to figure

735
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: out some way if I'm the head coach and you know,

736
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: and Nick's talking about potential change and all that, and

737
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: I've talked about potential change this. You're not alone on

738
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: that raft. But I think that if you know, if

739
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm the coach, I'm thinking, Okay, how can I make

740
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: this thing better? Can I get a player? You know?

741
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't work out for him, then that's

742
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: not his problem anymore. He's just got to figure out

743
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: how to take Amari Cooper and make him work in

744
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: this offense. Did you watch the games from this year?

745
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: I watched this year's all the games he's played this

746
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: year until the time he got concussed, and then I

747
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: watched every single catch he made and every ball throwed

748
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: him in twenty seventeen. So what was the deal? I mean,

749
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: he only had like twenty catches. Yeah, they but the

750
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: things that were to me, the Raiders with John in

751
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: their offense, they're not that quarterback. There's something not right

752
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: with that quarterback right now throwing the ball. I mean,

753
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: he clearly was missing him on some throws, and I'm

754
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: thinking he's open, dude, hit him. You know. But if

755
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: you go back and look at you go back and

756
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: look at what he did in seventeen, different offensive coordinator

757
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: and all that, it's it's remarkable how much difference the guy. Look,

758
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: how different stats look a lot like the Cowboys, you know,

759
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: like the just their team. I mean one catch, ten catches, yeah,

760
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: two catches, eight catches, one catch. I mean, it's just

761
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: kind of back and forth. It's his first two years

762
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: he had over a thousand yards receiving. He's Crow Bowl guy.

763
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: He hired in fifty five catches. He is so capable

764
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL have done that. And

765
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: eleven two thousand yards in your first two years, that

766
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: was your stat. Yeah, we're waiting. Yeah, I mean that's

767
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean the nine nine players ever that

768
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: that have started to yet now now it's like, well,

769
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: does he still have it? I mean because that on

770
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: Hearn has had a thousand yard year as well a

771
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and he doesn't look like that,

772
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: especially when you're running out of bounds on this guy

773
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: right here though, the way he runs routes, the way

774
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: he gets down the field, him going to get the football.

775
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: And I want to give the Fun Office credit to for,

776
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, saying, you know what, we tried something, it

777
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: didn't work, it's not working, and we're gonna do something

778
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: about it while we still have a chance to win

779
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: this division. It could be easy for them to say,

780
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: because they made those decisions, Yeah, sit on your hands

781
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: and go eight, Nate and see how that goes, and

782
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: we'll we'll just keep working with it. Yeah, And they've

783
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: decided this it's not working as presently constructed. They got

784
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: tired of looking at it. One more from Joe from Fliermund,

785
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Why don't he just get does he wouldn't cost you anything? Yeah,

786
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: I've heard that. I think there was a concern that

787
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: he he might not be able to play anymore, well

788
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: five years younger as well. It's kind of well, I

789
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: don't know, but no one else has signed him, That's true.

790
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: Mickey's kind of implier too. Every now and then, you know,

791
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: it just kind of sort of the top. So if

792
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: this guy comes in day one, top three receivers, gallop, gallop,

793
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: and let's go bat and it shouldn't be anybody else

794
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: unless you know what sangre Law. I don't care what

795
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: you're saying. Coach those three up and let's go play ball.

796
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: Let's figure out what's going on with this offensive line

797
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: to run the footballbody a little bit better, please, somebody's

798
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: probably going to be out the door now. I mean

799
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: they got to make a roster move to do that. Um,

800
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: but you didn't. Your guy got a good maybe put

801
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: on arm fore arm? Yeah, yeah, possibly, But I mean,

802
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: do you need seven receivers first? Not? No, I mean

803
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: Bright Bryce Butler makes sense, but Thompson, Thompson or Butler

804
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: would be my vote, but you know I would. Hey,

805
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: by the way, they're not throwing with the ball to

806
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: Bryce except for one time a game, you know, so

807
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: sort of if you count the Hill, just kind of

808
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: move on from him, then all right we're ready to

809
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: move on. Yeah, all right, tomorrow's another day. Yeah. Check

810
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: out Bryan Scotting report on Amari Cooper. I gotta get

811
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: this up going right on Monday night Football to night.

812
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: Ye yeah, Monday. Uh, Giants and Falcons enjoy that, Mickey.

813
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: I will rather hit there's no baseball to watch. Hit

814
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: my thumb with a hammer, then watch that. Oh my god.

815
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: Atlanta can't stop anybody, can't they No, they give up

816
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: twenty eight points and like walking out for the national anthem.

817
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: They can't stop anybody's people play fans. But but then

818
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: again they're offense. You can't stop their offense. That'll be fun. Yeah,

819
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: but it's the Giants. Yeah, let them train wreck. You

820
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: know what. I love you, Brian, you know what. To

821
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: win this division, that need the Giants to actually a

822
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean you need them to kind of

823
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: put a fight every now and again. Maybe they could

824
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: beat Washington. Were they the ones that got beat by

825
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: the sixty three yards field goal. No, it was giants

826
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: who who lost. Oh that's right, it wasn't a lot

827
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: of giants. Yeah, so they're they're like one game away.

828
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: If they win tonight, they'd be giants have really only

829
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: they've only gotten steamrolled by again. You could could call

830
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: the Dallas game of steam rolling and then quit Philly

831
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: kick there. But but they've been in most of their games.

832
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: Jacksonville to get their head out of their rearing London

833
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: next week, Yeah, some Eagles, Yeah, Eagles there. It's that

834
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: point of the year. It's division scoreboard watching Cowboys make

835
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: a big move in principle to get a guy that

836
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: can help him ount down the stretch. So the Eagles.

837
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have the Eagles after they come back from London.

838
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: After Tennessee. Oh, after Tennessee. Okay, Tennessee's off this week too,

839
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: by the way, Well that's fair, okay, all right, let

840
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: me wrap it up, big golf, all right, let's wrap

841
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 1: it up. I'd like fair stuff, all right. Cool. Thank

842
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: you guys for joining us. We appreciate it. William, thanks

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