1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. Indication didn't notice. I'm not broke. 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's what 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Get we come. 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: Welcome with money Making Conversations. I'm your host, Rashan McDonald. 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories, really 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: it is, and start writing your own. And I always 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: tell people who listen to watch my show to leave 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: with your gifts, your passions, and don't let your friends, 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: your age, especially your age, your family, your coworkers stop 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: you from planning or living your dreams. My interviews to 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: that do on Money Making Conversation really are to the 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: consumer that could be you, also a business owner that 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: can be you, and I give you access to celebrity 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: CEOs entrepreneurs as an industry decision makers. My next guests. 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Two dynamic people are Patrice Covington and Rebecca Naomi Jones. 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: They acclaimed actresses and singers co starring the cast of 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Genius Aretha as Irma and Caroline Franklin. My older sister's 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: name is Carolin, so I love Carolin. Patrice Covington is 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: an Emmy Award winning actress, singer, teacher Arthur and model 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: Rebecca Naomi Jones, and is currently featuring in those Niecks 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: un Road one national campaign. You've seen that tearing up stuff. 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: She has also performing in solo concerts at Lincoln Center, 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: American Soul Book, and Apollo Cafe. They're dynamic in this 29 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: series Genius. I saw it in this compelling and I've 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: lived that lifestyle from a musical set. And let's tell 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: you about a little background what the Genius series is 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: all about. It's an Emmy or War when the anthology 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: series where they dramatized the fascinating stories behind brilliant innovators 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: in this case was Aretha Franklin and h These two 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: young ladies. I won't say they're young because they you're 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: going to meet and hope they are another offended by 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: the term young ladies as they're being cast in the 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: role of planning Aretha's sisters, which can be very frustrated 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: in life. You know, it's like being the sister brother 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: to Tiger Woods or lebron Ja and still participating in 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: that sport. So because both of them are talented singers, 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: and in a sense it was to me as I 43 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: introduced them, and there were many layers of stories that 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: I can love to go back and just hear their story. 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: I can go back and just see a story about 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: c L Aretha's father, But this story is about Rita 47 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: and her genius. Please working the money making conversations, Patrice 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: Covington and Rebecca Naomi Jones, thank you, thank you for 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: having us. Well, you know, first of all, um, this 50 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: first time we talked. But but when you see seven episodes, uh, 51 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: in the serious is eight episodes, you tend to see 52 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: and and and and and first of all, be engaged 53 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: by the talent, the singing talent. Let's let's start there, 54 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: because that's a gift God gave you. And in this series, 55 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to figure out are they singing 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: or they live singing? You know, were they really single? 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: When you stand I felt when you were in that 58 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: scene where y'all were standing next to the piano and 59 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: you were playing it and you were singing. I felt 60 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: that you guys are actually singing that moment. It was 61 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: I right or wrong, You're right sing So so in 62 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: a series where there is so driven by singing, how 63 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: did these audition opportunities come up to you? Guys? You 64 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: can answer separately because it's it's it's a it's all 65 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: you have to say when you start building your resume. 66 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: This is a resume builder. This is a resume you 67 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: put up and go okay, wow. I was part of that. 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: Because it is an amazing anthology series and it plays 69 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: out over a series of time, you have to age 70 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: a little bit, you have to be a little younger 71 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: than what you really are. So starting with you, Rebecca, 72 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: talk about the whole process of coming on board. Sure, 73 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: I remember that the audition came to my table at 74 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: a time when I had a whole lot of other 75 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: auditions showing up as well. It was must have been 76 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: pilot season because it was a really busy time and 77 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: this was the only one that I had this particular 78 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: week that was a taped audition instead of a live 79 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: in person audition with casting, and I remember I felt 80 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: really swamped, and my boyfriend said, maybe you shouldn't do 81 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: this one because it says Caroline as tall. But you know, 82 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: something told me that I should make the tape happen 83 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: because I saw that Susan Laurie Parks was attached to it, 84 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: and she I've known for many years in theater, and 85 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: because I knew that the role required somebody who could 86 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: sing um, and so I thought, there are a couple 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: of things that are not my height that could potentially 88 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: give me a leg up into this work. And um, 89 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: you know I actually said this to someone earlier today. 90 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: What I loved was that I didn't know anything about 91 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: Caroline Franklin or Irma Franklin before getting to work on 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: this material. And um, I loved the audition scene because it, um, 93 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: it was a long scene that took place, uh during 94 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Aretha Franklin's fiftieth birthday, and it's between the two sisters, 95 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: and just this scene between the two of them gives 96 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: you so much information about these sisters, but also their 97 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: relationship with Aretha and their relationship with their father and 98 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: their family as a whole, and you get a sense 99 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: in this material of how much they love each other 100 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: and love their sister, but also um that there is 101 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: a lot of resentment and business and complexity that is 102 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: present in all relationships and all families. Um, so yeah, 103 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: it was. It was a really fun audition to do. 104 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: And I got to do an acapella version of rock Steady, 105 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite reasons. And yes, yes, yes, 106 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: and yeah. So it was a great time. And then 107 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: I got to do my screen test in person, and 108 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun, and you know, I was, 109 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: I was hoping I got the job, but of course 110 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: I felt like, um, the audition experience itself was actually 111 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: so satisfying that if I didn't, I did my best 112 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: and I would let it go. But I left out portreats. Now, 113 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, let's not be casual about this. When you 114 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: say singing. Now, see, you had to sing the same 115 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: thing as they say in the in the Black Household. 116 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: You could sang girl or sang because because at point, 117 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, this movie wasn't based on 118 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: lip sinking. You know, you had to deliver and then 119 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: also you had to deliver a level as to why 120 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: these ladies could be somewhat jealous of not getting the 121 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: same opportunities that Areta was getting. Okay, you know, y'all 122 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: equally attractive, you know, but but she had a certain 123 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: extra in her. So talk about your audition practice and 124 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: bringing that character of Irma to the to the stage. Yeah, 125 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: sure so. Um. I also loved that audition scene, Rebecca. 126 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: It was such a good one, um, and it really 127 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: pulled me in, pulled in my interest. Well. I was 128 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: also interested in all jobs at the time. There was 129 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't interested in, but I was particularly interested in 130 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: this one because at the time I was actually on 131 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: tour singing background for Christina Aguilera. Were in Vegas and 132 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: I was in the Las Vegas hotel room. It was 133 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: a very hectic time, much like Rebecca. Um mine was 134 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: just that we were her so much, um, and we 135 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 1: were traveling so much. I had no time, like zero 136 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: time at all to get this done. I had no idea. 137 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: And I'm also on the road with band guys. How 138 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: am I going to get this done? You know, like 139 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: they don't know how to do a self taped audition, 140 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: you know. So Thankfully, one of my background singing partners, 141 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: he has a wife who was an actress and she 142 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: had trained him up to know how to do a 143 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: self tape, so I was like, please help me, and 144 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: he helped me. We did it. It's probably the quickest 145 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: audition I've ever done because I just simply didn't have 146 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the time to analyze and critique, like why did I 147 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: do that? And I wish I wouldn't have looked that 148 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: way and all my guy, my hair looks dumb or whatever. 149 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: I didn't have time to do those things because I 150 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: was so busy. And so with all that being said, 151 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: it was the most evident and most clear time that 152 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: I've ever had something be what's for me? It's just 153 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: for me. It would never have passed me by because 154 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: I didn't have to, you know, analyze and do the 155 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: most with this tape. So, um, you know, I am 156 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: forever grateful. This is my very first time on TV period. 157 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: I had to row. I've done other things, uh like 158 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: you know, promos for Broadway shows and such, but uh, 159 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: this is my first time on camera and I'm for 160 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: ever grateful for this moment. And you're stepped out there girl, 161 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: not the beautiful smile, you stepped out there now and 162 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: in the in this series, now, Carolyn, your character really 163 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: wanted to be a reader. I like to believe you 164 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: you really challenge the norm because the dad who was 165 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: c All, who was known as the million dollar vos 166 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: Uh in Detroit, saw her as the the prodigy. He 167 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: saw as the one and the legacy builder. Now in 168 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: the building that these characters, because you have to kind 169 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: of have a sense of background information and where you're 170 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: gonna take the character, not overstep with the characters, is 171 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: to deliver what you wanted to compete naturally. Talk about 172 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: that process and making it real, well, I think, um, 173 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, as an actress of a certain level who 174 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: has um, you know, done a lot of exciting roles 175 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: on Broadway, UM, and done some versions of some some 176 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: levels of roles on TV and film. UM, but it's 177 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: still in the process of, you know, building a career. 178 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: I think a lot of what both Patrise and I 179 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: were tasked to portray is something that comes naturally for 180 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: us because it is such a journey when you believe 181 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: you have something inside of you to offer, and in 182 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: some ways that dream is um, you know, that dream 183 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: is happening for you, it's it's coming true, and in 184 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: some ways you're still sort of building it and UM, 185 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: and and manifesting it and dreaming it and UM, and 186 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: I think that these characters really have that. I don't 187 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: think they necessarily wanted to be Aretha, but I think 188 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: they wanted. I think they wanted to be Irma. They 189 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: wanted to be Caroline, and they wanted to have all 190 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: of the opportunity that Aretha had. And I think, um, 191 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: I think that desire and that deep yearning UM, you know, 192 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: for your potential to be realized and for your um 193 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: star power to be realized is something that we can 194 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: sort of easily, you know, dig into and to to 195 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: on UM. But yeah, I think, uh, you know, I 196 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: think it's also very natural for me to want to 197 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: dig into this role. But my father was also a 198 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: musician who passed away before realizing all his dreams, and 199 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: so it's it was, it was something that just felt 200 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: right now, we're not going to listen to this. Patrice's like, 201 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: just you're talking about this series of an anthology series 202 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: eight episodes. You know that from forty five minutes, I 203 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: think the longest episode maybe fifty something minutes. But never 204 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: never did I feel tax and watching this series. Why 205 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: would you think someone would want to watch an anthology 206 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: series Want to reach your Franklin. There's so much to 207 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: uncover about this woman. Her music is truly embedded in 208 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: the fabric of our lives. And we know that we 209 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: love her music. We know she was the Queen and 210 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: that there's no one better. But her story is so complex, 211 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: it's so multifaceted, it's so beautiful, it's so sad at times. 212 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: It's full of overcoming and conquering. It's full of sisterhood, 213 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: all things that we all need encouragement with all the time. Um, 214 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: what we get to unfold a lot of it is 215 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: about her, how active her activism was. Right now, everybody's 216 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to be an activist in 217 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: their own right and whatever it is that they can do, 218 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: and so it's encouraging in your real life right now. 219 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: Is so much to learn and so much to apply 220 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: to your life. You know, it's really amazing because I 221 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: want to get into some of the Cash members because 222 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: they were a serious like this great has to be 223 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: carried by talent. You are two very talented individuals that 224 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: stood out in this series. Then you go to my 225 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Man Court to be Vans who played cl whoa Okay, 226 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: that's a that's a whole. They could have done an 227 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: eight episode doc on on his behind because he I'm 228 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: gonna tell yourself, just watch the series to see the 229 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: dad just what just wants to see it for the dad, 230 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: because the dad gonna mess you up. Seal Franklin is 231 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: gonna mess you up as a preacher. He breaks all 232 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: the preacher rules. He breaks all of the preacher rules. 233 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: If they has the rules for preachers and your p K. 234 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: He gonna he go make you want to just be 235 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: a drug addict. He gonna make you want to just 236 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: go into detox for life. This man's yeah, I ain't 237 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: never met a preacher like giving my life. He was 238 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: part uh womanizer, he was a part of I'd say 239 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: he was all part womanizer. He was somewhat of a 240 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: drug he uh he spent the parishioner's money at will. 241 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: He was he was special. Now that's that's courting to 242 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: be fair and my wrong, ladies, did I tell you 243 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: are correct? If I TV, y'all feel free to Sean. 244 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: Now you lying, you're stretching the twoth Okay, Now, Wexler, 245 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: you know Wexler was that you know, the always a 246 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: white man. That was his character. I tell telling black 247 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: folks what to do pushing, you know, I don't think 248 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: that's a good move. You might always think about their pocketbook, 249 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: but not worrying about the cause. That was my man 250 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: playing the Wexler character. He was he was incredible, his talents, 251 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: he was He's an original test. It was really interesting 252 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: when I saw the because I saw their reader special 253 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: when she the documentary, I saw that it was just 254 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: so amazing. And I'm gonna ask you guys at the 255 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: other one you can answer this, would you? You know, 256 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: I've seen history, I've lived the history of Frankly through 257 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, Jet magazine, Ebony songs. When you guys were 258 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: going through the process and and certain information was being 259 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: revealed to you, how did you react to it? Um? Well, 260 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: I think that you know, some things we still don't 261 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: really know the answers to. You know, there's a lot 262 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: that is still just left to the healer. Uh, you know, 263 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: there's some things that will just never know. Um. And 264 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean I've heard rumors of certain things all my 265 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: life now my life of my adult life. Um, you know. 266 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: And and at that point it was quite shocking to 267 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: me to learn that everything had a baby at twelve 268 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: years old. Um, those types of stories are always going 269 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: to be shocking to someone who's like the queen of soul. 270 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: Like you know, I grew up with her music. I 271 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: knew it was gospel music, and you know, I know 272 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: her foundation was was church. So it's definitely shocking. I 273 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: think that there's so much more to her life, though, 274 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: and what's more important is how she overcame and continued 275 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,359 Speaker 1: to overcome until she got out of here, like always overcoming. 276 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: I think that's the most important part. 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That's O T T 311 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: E R dot Ai. I had to fortunate like because 312 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey and I have managing for sixty years. I 313 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: had had a blessing of meeting read this several times. 314 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: She really did cook fried chicken, by the way. I 315 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: knew that for a fact. The woman could cook okay. 316 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: And also she loved popcorn too, by the way. So 317 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: when you when you look at a movie like Sit 318 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: the Arrival, who starred in the lead role, and you 319 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: see I saw I fell in love Withood and Harriet. 320 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: I saw that booby Harriet when she started Harriet Tubman, 321 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: and I got the opportunity to see how she effortlessly 322 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: um played this role. You know, you know when you 323 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: see a talent like that, and you know, because we 324 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: all compare ourselves and say, wow, how does that work? 325 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: How did I give me some feedback on watching the 326 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: talent like that because we all have aspirations to be 327 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: that lead and then seeing her go through the process 328 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: of aging, going through she was she was physically abused 329 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: she was, you know, she was she was you know, 330 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: it was her relationship with Dr Martin Luther King. She 331 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: had that in that process, being a spiritual leader, being 332 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: a physical leader, being a being, uh, you know, dealing 333 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: with what happened to her mom in real life she 334 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: had She had a see that emotion through the process 335 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: as well as overall you know, disconnect with her dad. 336 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: It was a disconnect, you know. Then her grandmother, played 337 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: by the incredible Paul at of Washington. I can't forget 338 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: not giving her compliments because she was awesome, knowna for 339 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: many years. So give me, give me some feedback and 340 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: you know your take on it as well. You know, 341 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: one thing that I loved watching Cynthia was that I 342 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: think she really was able to dig into um, sort 343 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: of the quiet self protection that Areta had. I think, Um, 344 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, we were also lucky to receive um Aretha's 345 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, Aretha's sort of entire soul through her voice, 346 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: her singing voice and her music in general and her genius. 347 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: But um, you know, as we all know, she's she 348 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: was a very private person by design and UM, and 349 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: I think Cynthia really locked into that aspect of her. 350 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: I think she was really smart about how she was 351 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: on set and how she dug into this character because 352 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: she was very quiet about it. She didn't she didn't 353 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: overly um talk too much about it. I think she 354 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: kept a lot of her work um internal and um. 355 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: And then we got to see it sort of slowly 356 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: unravel out of her the way Aretha was in terms 357 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: of her allowing people to slowly, um, you know, be 358 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: let in to who she was. And so the same 359 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: thing happens with Cynthia where suddenly she's singing and this 360 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: voice opens up and we're getting a real sense of 361 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: who she is right now, you know, And I can't 362 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: forget t I T tip. Was that boy right there 363 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: and that he does comedy? Well he I know he 364 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: could wrapped, but he was. He was you know, I 365 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: was just he was six. He was six. I'm coming there. 366 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: Look at that the little mustache and little afro. He 367 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: was working it. He was working it with that little 368 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: deep voice. I was off the T. I was on 369 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: Bartan in this series, and my boy Luke James, he 370 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: dipped in that. And then and then a guy gonna 371 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: tell y'all know character. I'm just gonna let y'all know 372 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: T eyes in the Bad Boy, he clouds Luke James 373 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: coming there, super sexy. No chocolate drop, chocolate drop. We 374 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: had a very fun day with him, you know. And 375 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: you guys, your characters are you know, there's let's let's 376 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: talk about that stepping back and win and those uh 377 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: those time you know, complyiant clothes. You know, the bathing 378 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: suit that you're wearing there, you know, at the pool 379 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: side with a Wretha and your character. You know you're 380 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: up there, that nice little outfit singing them songs. I'm 381 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: looking at Caroline. They fine. Maybe you know I'm going 382 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: back because I was. I was active in those years. 383 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: I going like, oh they could work, and they could work. 384 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: So how much fun did you guys have out going 385 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: into the wardrobe? Most fun, the most fun. Jennifer Briant, 386 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: our costume designer. I just you know, every time I 387 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: went into a fitting, it was my whole thing was 388 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: a going joke because I would say, okay, no, this 389 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: is my favorite. Every time it was my favorite outfit. Um. 390 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 1: I loved her designs. I felt comfortable, I felt cute, 391 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: I felt sexy. I loved how we grew, you know, 392 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: our fashions grew with us um but still was appropriate, 393 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, and making us still fly all throughout the years. 394 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: You know, we weren't we weren't poor people, so we 395 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: had good fancy, very sexy. We loved it. We loved it. 396 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we know. That's why. I just you know 397 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: when I when they do time pieces, right, you know 398 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: that they spent the money on this top piece. You 399 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: know that the FLDS looked like they were right. You 400 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: see no little pieces falling off ourself. They're working there. 401 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: They got the budget for the half up on this 402 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: show here the clothes field. I get mad time when 403 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: I see time black people time period pieces and you 404 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: can see the little hay on the edge kind of 405 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: popping off the sides A side or right. They did 406 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: the money right, They did the same discovery right. Talk 407 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: about being involved with a production that said, you know something, 408 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna spend the money and you can leave for 409 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: treata Rebecca, either one you can take lead on this 410 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: question because it's it's and both of them respond after 411 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: other response as well, it's really great to be treated 412 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: special and allowed to tell your story with a budget 413 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: that allows you to tell the story. Correct. You're absolutely right, 414 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: I think It makes such a difference in how you 415 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: feel like you can do your job because you know 416 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: that other people are being given the access to do 417 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: their job right, and so it just makes what you 418 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: have to do that much easier. It made what we 419 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: had to do so much easier because Jennifer Bryant had 420 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: our backs with these beautiful costumes that fit us perfectly, 421 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: and Miss Louisa was making these wigs that were so 422 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: stunning but also really fit our natural hair textures of 423 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: our face shapes. And you know, we had Marietta in 424 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: the makeup department and her entire team just you know, 425 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: making our faces look beautiful, but also like we made 426 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: our faces look that way, not like a makeup team 427 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: made our Facebook that way. I mean everything was taken 428 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: care of so we could take care of these characters. Yeah, 429 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: I would agree with that one. And also, you know, 430 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: every all these people who lead these departments were black women. 431 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: Come on, all of the department heads were black women. 432 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: They were black women, and they lead they led their 433 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: teams with just the most esteemed They were so distinguished 434 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: and they were very clear. Um, they made us I 435 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: just keep using the word comfortable because I never I 436 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: never worried about my hair. I never worried about my makeup. Um, 437 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: I definitely never worried about clothes. Like we were comfortable 438 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: all the time. And if they if there ever were 439 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: a concerned a question, I would just be like, hey, 440 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: um my pants are too tight. It would give me 441 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: figgers fans like it was. It was never anything. It 442 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: was just always because work work in in that scene long, 443 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: we're going out with the type and none of that 444 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: at all uncomfortable. I'll with you, let me change these pants. 445 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: They showing it tight riding up on me. But that's 446 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: but you know the beauty of watching we were talking. 447 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Patrice Comington and Rebecca Naomi Jones and 448 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: goings to the anthology series UH called Genius and premiers 449 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: National Geo. Um this uh Sunday March. Not only am 450 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I recommending this, and I'm just so fortunate to be 451 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: talk to tu talented people because when I get to 452 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: see something like that and I and I, and it 453 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: takes me to a level of imagination because you guys gifted, 454 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: You have gifts, and those gifts that you allowed me 455 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: to share with like seeing you like like like I 456 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: knew when you were really singing that going wow. You 457 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: know that's that's a blessing. And so I have to 458 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: believe that you guys understand your blessing and you feel 459 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: very fortunate to be able to sharing them in the 460 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: entertainment form like I know, this your first television series 461 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: and applause, and but again, it's gonna be more. It's 462 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: gonna be movies. And I know you know you have 463 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: there doing your thing, you know, miss thing, you know, 464 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: But but how how is life? What's the future for 465 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: each one of you? Don't go first, Pecca, The future 466 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: is fabulous, uh you know, fabu the fabulous, the fabulous. 467 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: I can assure you that, um yeah, they're they're a 468 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: little little projects coming coming up more uh here and 469 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: there that I'm not sure if I'm allowed to speak 470 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: about yet, but you know, I'm I'm still waiting for 471 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: that next big thing. But I'll let you know and 472 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: and guess what, feel free to come on my show. 473 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: I'd like to believe that I'll developed a relationship with 474 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: you to that allows to I trust the opportunities. And 475 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: I've been an entertainment business, you know, started writing no 476 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: TV shows in ninety two. I know how this thing works. 477 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: Sometimes all the auditions come on the same day, and 478 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: then they go months and there's no audition, and you'll 479 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: be going, God, what's going on. I've been broke for 480 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: six months now. The day I ain't broke, I got 481 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: five auditions and didn't get none of them. So what what? What? 482 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: What are we going with this? And that's the really Patricia, 483 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: you can expound just just life and just tell people 484 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: who try to make this business work for themselves, what 485 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: enthusiastic what points of support can you give them? Advice 486 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: when you hit those low points, because the highs are 487 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: incredible and it's worth it, but when you hit those 488 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: low points you gotta dig out of and realize that's 489 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: part of the process. Yeah, well, in this business we 490 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: have way more nose than yes. I mean we audition. 491 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes you can audition four or five seven times a 492 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: week and get nothing. When I booked this job, it 493 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: was the only job I booked that year outside of 494 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, background singing and doing other things. You know. 495 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: But I think what's important is creating and not waiting. 496 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: That's one, speaking things as if they already are and 497 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: then just always being generous with light. So I have 498 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: this um, this saying this model that is trademarks, I 499 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: don't try to steal it. Russian McDonald's it's don't be 500 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: a star via Galaxy. Now I saw that now, yes, 501 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: so that means it's means so many things. When I 502 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: first created it, it it was about you know, just being 503 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: being sparkly and you know, being a star. But as 504 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: as the years have gone on, it has gone on 505 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: to me and just sharing, like you know, if Rebecca 506 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: and not see an audition that we think is right 507 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: for the other, I'm gonna tell Rebecca I know that 508 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: what's mine is mine. It will never pass me by. 509 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm always gonna shine light on her talent because I 510 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: think she's an amazing talent. No star shines bright without 511 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: the next star next to it shining. There's so much more. 512 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: There's enough for everybody. So I just think, when what 513 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: you give out is what you get in, what you are, 514 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: what you will receive. So um, just keep being nice, 515 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: believed that karma is a real thing and create don't wait. 516 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: Okay has spoken your pockets and give me all your offer. 517 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: If you sel, we'll be asking for Franklin. We'll be 518 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: asking for according to be fast and I be reef 519 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: remiss not to talk about the very talented young actress 520 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: who played the role of the young Aretha Franklin who 521 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: carries her, because you know this this is an anthology, 522 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: so they do a lot of flashbacks. So just because 523 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: you see a character in the first episode, you're gonna 524 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: see him throughout the hoax episode because you're doing because 525 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: it allows you to see what makes Areta at this 526 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: point of her life, what happened in her life at 527 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: that age that made her either hard, made a sophomore, 528 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: the emotional maybe made her not trust anybody, because that 529 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: was a big thing about trust in her life. You know, 530 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: that came up with Ted, and it came up with 531 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: her father. Cl so enclosed, Rebecca. You know, you know, 532 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: you know Deacon Deacon Deacon treats and spoke now uh 533 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: much just to day. You know she's passed to play. 534 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: But ain't nobody putting no money in it yet? Okay, Rebecca, 535 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: they're looking at the plate. They're gonna sit. We bring 536 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: us on home. This is Aretha the Genius series. They're 537 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: gonna premier on National g O March in. The first 538 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: starring Patrice Coverington, Rebecca Nailmi Jones, bring me on home, girl. 539 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm at the altar. I just want to join the church. 540 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: Come on, you know think you guys are amazing the 541 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: heck with all these compliments. I watched all seven episodes 542 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Okay, I'm just telling you. I I started 543 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: at one o'clock in the middle of March madness, and 544 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: I didn't stop. I forgot watching basketball. You watch one episode, 545 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, you know Netflix at you all wired up, 546 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, into binge watching, and I go, okay, I'm 547 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: going okay, okay. Episode two, Episode three, Okay. I look 548 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: at the minute forty five and I got forty five minutes. 549 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: I didn't not finished till nine thirty last night, and 550 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: I was mad because they only sent me seven episode 551 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: and it's the episode serious because I gotta wait till 552 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: the end and it's gonna be worth it. I'm passing 553 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: the passing the information line about how great this seriously, 554 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: More importantly, I got to introduce America and my fan 555 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: base to YouTube fantastic actresses and singers, and the blessings 556 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: are going to continue. And know I'm a fan. 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