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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolli and

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Speaker 2: he is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: And well, for those of you who haven't checked it

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Speaker 2: That's funny camera here radio what we're doing here.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, so it's a Wednesday here in Pittsburgh, and

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Speaker 3: as it is Wednesday, the Steelers were back on the

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Speaker 3: practice field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt, good stuff to talk about.

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Speaker 3: We don't have the full practice report yet, but I

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Speaker 3: can tell you that, well, there were some guys who

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Speaker 3: practiced and some who didn't practice. O.

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Speaker 2: Thanks some of the guys who didn't practice.

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlins said yesterday during his press conference, Russell Wilson

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Speaker 3: wasn't going to do much of anything to accept. Test

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Speaker 3: some things out, and they'll have him do some things.

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Speaker 3: So Justin Fields was running with the ones, Yeah, taking

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Speaker 3: the snaps with the first team offense. He also said

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Speaker 3: that Dan Moore Junior would be limited early in the week. Well,

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Speaker 3: he was limited today and you can guess what that

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Speaker 3: means for the offensive line.

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Speaker 5: Yes, some shuffling, some shuffling, yep, Yes, every day were shuffling.

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Speaker 3: A certain first round back draft pick gets to go

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Speaker 3: in at right tackle, another.

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Speaker 5: Certain other different first round draft pick moves a couple

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Speaker 5: of doors down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's video out there, there's stuff. There's not

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Speaker 2: you know, releasing any secrets here. Roder Jones was at

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Speaker 2: left tackle. Troy Fatano, is it right?

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Speaker 5: Yes, And that's exciting because I mean that's what we

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Speaker 5: want to see for the next ten years and you know,

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Speaker 5: next decade plus whatever.

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Speaker 2: But damn Moore played really well, really well, really really well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: If you looked at the ESPN, ESPN dot com, you

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Speaker 3: know the pass rush.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah, I didn't look at this week.

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Speaker 2: He was perfect in that game last week. Really yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean I don't remember any bad plays, that's for sure.

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Speaker 5: Watched it several times. I thought he got better in camp.

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Speaker 5: I thought he's one of the more improved Steelers. You know,

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Speaker 5: And before that game, what do I always say? You're

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Speaker 5: allowed to get better.

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Speaker 3: Guys are allowed to get better. And we forget he's

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Speaker 3: a twenty five year old player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean he's not over the hill. And

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Speaker 2: there were guys coming up this year's draft who are

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Speaker 2: his age. Yeah, that's a good point. Yet he's got

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Speaker 2: fifty career starts under his belt, so good for him.

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Speaker 5: I mean, at a minimum, he's going to be well

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Speaker 5: compensated this offseason. Oh yeah, that age or that many starts,

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Speaker 5: all those good things.

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Speaker 3: He's a good dude.

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Speaker 4: I mean really he is.

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Speaker 2: You know, works hard, really cares and tries and all

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Speaker 2: the work ethic shows up on the field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you don't get better if you're not working,

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Speaker 2: like he hasn't been working.

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Speaker 5: No, he wasn't gifted compared to other offensive tackles, you know,

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Speaker 5: with the most the lightest feet, the greatest strength, the

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Speaker 5: longest arms. He's not really short in any of those areas.

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Speaker 5: But he's got Yeah, he's a big dude. He's a

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Speaker 5: big dude. And you said he really reworked his body

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Speaker 5: this year too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's pretty jacked up there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah okay, yeah, And I also think Arthur Smith's system

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Speaker 5: helps linemen in general.

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Speaker 2: I think it might be a really good fit for

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Speaker 5: Coming off the ball blocking angles, more of a run blocker.

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Speaker 5: Plus also move in the pocket as much as they did.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see. I mean, you don't know, you're not

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Speaker 5: suggesting this is a permanent no.

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Speaker 3: No, I think this was just because today. So there

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Speaker 2: Blocking win rate. Okay, Deon Dawkins was fifteen for fifteen.

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Speaker 5: I didn't seem that seem that way, but I guess

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Speaker 3: But the middle Orlando Brown eighteen for eighteen, Trent Williams

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Speaker 3: and he had quite frankly, as I was going down

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Speaker 2: Opportunities more than a lot. Stanley had thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Last Weekah was really well and his job hit Matthew Judon.

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Speaker 5: I mean he did the the better player and I

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Speaker 5: enough exactly. If he's questionable this week, maybe you don't

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Speaker 5: play him. Yeah he's out there, think yeah, and if

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Speaker 3: Going to work. This may have even been a situation

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Speaker 3: where they just said, you know what, Dan, your ankle's

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Speaker 2: Take the day off. Yeah, it's Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: We want to get you are.

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Speaker 3: We want to get Fatanu some work at right tackle

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Speaker 3: anyways we can. We want to get Broaderick some work

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Speaker 5: I just wonder on Broaderick. I just don't love him

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Speaker 5: moving back and forth all the time, you know what

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Speaker 5: But it is good that he has the ability to

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Speaker 5: lends itself to his willingness and you know, being a

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Speaker 2: His natural ability too. Yeah, and you know that's not

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Speaker 3: But it's not an easy thing to do at all.

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Speaker 3: That's why I don't especially tackle. It's so different at

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of space and you're off hand and

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Speaker 3: I'm having a tight end beside you on the right side.

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Speaker 3: You're out by yourself most of the time on the

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Speaker 4: And your vision is different. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 5: So No, I think it's a big deal and it's

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Speaker 5: a testament to him that he's handling it fine.

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Speaker 3: He's not complaining. A lot of guys are like, I'm

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Speaker 3: not doing that, you know. Yeah, I will make note

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Speaker 3: of this too, Matt. Did you see who won AFC

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Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Week this week? If it's not

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Speaker 2: Watt, I don't know who it is, but he should

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Speaker 2: have won it. It was Gregory Russo.

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Speaker 4: Ah, okay, who had.

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Speaker 2: Three sacks in that game? A really good game.

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 2: When he beat it'd be Roderick Jones. Roderick Jones. In

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Speaker 4: He stakes. Yeah, roder Jones.

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Speaker 2: Maybe just maybe that dude's breaking out. He's he was

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Speaker 5: He got better and better. He was the first round

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Speaker 5: pick himself. I mean, yeah, I think he has Pro

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Speaker 2: Yea. So and uh, yeah he kicked Jones kicked a

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Speaker 2: know that. Yeah, but he has a pretty strong case

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Speaker 2: and three sacks. I can't say.

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Speaker 5: But three sacks is pretty strong.

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Speaker 3: That was the thing about tj Is game is that,

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Speaker 3: first of all, he had a couple of things wiped

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Speaker 3: out by penalty of course, right, But even at that,

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Speaker 3: when I was going through things at the end of

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Speaker 3: every few hours after game day. I put them up

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Speaker 3: after the game on game.

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Speaker 2: Days and immediate Steelers dot com.

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Speaker 3: They're like my immediate thoughts of the game. And some

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Speaker 3: of them are paragraphed. Some of them are ten paragraphs, you know,

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Speaker 3: like they're just good.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm looking at this, I'm like, boy, t J.

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Speaker 2: Watt had a really big game. What were his stats

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Speaker 4: I look it up.

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Speaker 2: Four tackles, two tackles for all. I'm like, that doesn't

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Speaker 4: At all, right at all?

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Speaker 2: And he was in their backfield more than their quarterbacks were.

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Speaker 5: Yep, and changed how they had to do with protections

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Speaker 5: and there's we talked about this a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that fifth guy and there and their offensive scheme is

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Speaker 5: the tight end out there, he's not a hammer blocker

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Speaker 5: and Pitt's basically becomes a receiver. If he asked Pitts

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Speaker 5: or you know, built for it at all. Ray Ray's

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Speaker 5: you know. I mean, so that's one thing we were

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Speaker 5: talking on a zoom call today. I do think Denver

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Speaker 4: You know, I do too.

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Speaker 2: Mcglinche's a lot like McCary, to.

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Speaker 5: Be honest with you. They're kind of tall, stiff run blockers,

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Speaker 5: but good players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think maybe he's their best tackle.

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Speaker 4: M do you think he's better than Bowls?

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Speaker 2: I think he's better than balls.

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Speaker 3: I'm not different.

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Speaker 4: I don't bulls either, but they're both good, not great.

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Speaker 3: Bulls didn't become good or people start talking about Bulls

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Speaker 3: being a decent player until the year that holding was

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Speaker 3: leaking right now, and because he was, it was a liability.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it.

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Speaker 3: Was this guy the first round, Boston, this guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but they've paid him whatever they paid McGlinchey, tod

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Speaker 5: And that's that's like what Peyton did right when he

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Speaker 3: He was. Luke Lattenberg was twenty fifth amongst thirty two

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Speaker 3: McCoy was at a ninety point seven overall grade. Humphrey

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Speaker 3: Yeah right. His run blocking grade was eighty two point three.

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Speaker 5: And like I often reference Brandon Thorn for you know,

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Speaker 2: I think the most most harder, most offensive lineman can

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, if you can't hit protect though you're not.

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Speaker 5: Seven horrendous is a problem. Yeah, Benton cam Mogan, joby.

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Speaker 5: Back to what I was saying, I do think Peyton

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Speaker 3: And in their defense, their offensive line is usually is

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Speaker 5: No, right, But in like rams Land, that would have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it just because that's not what they're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's a good start for Zach Fraser in

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Speaker 4: The Frasier was very impressive and pasted all test.

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Speaker 3: We're just talking about Dan Moore. He was the sixteenth

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Speaker 2: I just left tackle.

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Speaker 4: That's all tackle four.

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Speaker 2: So he came in. I didn't think he played bad.

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Speaker 3: Was he better at?

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Speaker 4: I think that's who he is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just a steady eddy twelfth to twentieth best guard

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Speaker 3: You take a strip from Yeah, you certainly take that

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Speaker 3: Spencer Anderson was sixty out of sixty seven, Okay, mean

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Speaker 3: He was fifty five point seven and run blocking fifty

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Speaker 5: Curious where Linstern was because I do think he's a

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I think he had thirty five yards or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williams on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Radio and welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly,

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Speaker 2: he is the Matt Williamson. Accept no imitations. And Matt,

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Speaker 2: we're just talking offensive line stuff there. And Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Focus has come out with their offensive line ranks. I

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Speaker 5: Okay, I read them. I scrolled down the Steelers, just

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Speaker 2: Did they do well? Or is the Bengals defense worse

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Speaker 5: I mean that was the Bengals defense from last year.

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Speaker 4: That was a big fire moves game.

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Speaker 5: What's no, I'd be concerned if I was the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: I saw a lot of it today.

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Speaker 4: No, I like his style of thirty one.

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Speaker 5: Oh, they're in shambles right now. Ye Avila went on

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Speaker 4: It's bad.

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Speaker 3: talk about just blow it up. Oh man, Giants blew

446
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Speaker 3: it up after their last Super Bowl win. They have

447
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,440
Speaker 3: not gotten it back since.

448
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,280
Speaker 5: Not even close. I kind of think they're a bit

449
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,400
Speaker 5: of a rudderless organization too. I don't understand their approach.

450
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 2: Twenty eight is Washington, whether it be lower lower than

451
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Speaker 2: twenty eight.

452
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 5: I think they're really bad. Well, I mean the ones

453
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 5: we mentioned aren't good. Yeah, Cosme's a good, good young player.

454
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 5: The center's okay, yeah, yeah from Dallas.

455
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

456
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 2: But ackles are Cornelius Lucas, which is a great name,

457
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 2: a great name, so fan it might be the best name.

458
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 2: It sounds like a philosopher, Yes, Lucas.

459
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 1: Uh.

460
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 2: Twenty seven is Seattle. They did do Grady against Denver.

461
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 5: They did in Denver's from It's a little better than

462
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 5: people might think, especially off the edge.

463
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 2: But are they was it just that's a good question. Yeah,

464
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 2: I think we'll find out this week.

465
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

466
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 5: Remember they drafted cross and the right tackle. Yeah, and

467
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 5: everyone thought, wow they stole the right tackle. Turn looks

468
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 5: like a fifth round pick down Yeah yeah yeah.

469
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Speaker 3: Uh.

470
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 2: Twenty six Jacksonville inconsistent. Yea better than to be better

471
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 2: than what it is. They have some investments there. Yeah,

472
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 2: I mean Cam Robinson's he's right. You know, Mitch Morris

473
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 2: is a legit center, you know.

474
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brandon Shurff on the right card. People were blowing

475
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 3: up Anton Harrison after his rookie In fact, I saw

476
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 3: Anton Harrison somebody put out the preseason stuff that he

477
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 3: was the best young or second best young offensive tackle

478
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 3: from last year's draft.

479
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, really, Okay, I mean I don't think he's

480
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 5: anything special.

481
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Speaker 3: No, right, I'll take any of the other guys drafted

482
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Speaker 3: ahead of them. Oh yeah, Jones, Paris Johnson's a really

483
00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 3: good player already.

484
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 5: Right's a good player for the Bears, right, Yeah.

485
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 2: Cincinnati at twenty five they struggled last week.

486
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 5: They did, and considering their investments a tackle in particular,

487
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 5: they're paying their interior guys too, it needs to be

488
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 5: better than that.

489
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'ren't getting their bang for the twenty fifth is

490
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 3: not what they're looking for there. And if that's the case,

491
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow.

492
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,239
Speaker 4: The hand's gonna be not gonna heal anytime soon. No.

493
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 2: Twenty four is Houston.

494
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 5: Oh, I think they're a lot better than that. I mean,

495
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 5: they're just were so injured last year. Yeah, I think

496
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 5: Shack Basin's a high end guard. Tunsel's a star.

497
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 2: They just had a million ring well last week.

498
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think that'll be top ten minutes, all

499
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 5: said and done.

500
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Speaker 2: Twenty three the Saints. I'm sure they had a great game.

501
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: Everyone on, as you said, was the highest rated center

502
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Speaker 2: by God, and he's their best guy.

503
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 3: Yeah.

504
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Speaker 5: Actually I did see some things about people raving about

505
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 5: Fluaga his debut at left tackle. But let's see when

506
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 5: they play somebody they played Dallases.

507
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 2: We'll find out this week a little bit more. Yeah,

508
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean they go. It's not a real talented line.

509
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: Squag and Trevor Penning at right tackle. Pennings the one

510
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: that worries. Yeah, Michael Parsons is looking his chops on.

511
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll move him all around.

512
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: Twenty two the Baltimore Ravens. I think that's accurate. Yeah,

513
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 2: there might be one or two.

514
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 5: I would take over the where they're at right now,

515
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 5: and it's fortunate for them they get ten days to prepare.

516
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 5: But Wilkins and Crosby are coming to town. Like I'm

517
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 5: not implying the Raiders are going to go to Baltimore

518
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 5: and whip up on them.

519
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,719
Speaker 3: But that's trouble.

520
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 5: Those two are going to cause massive problems. Yeah, no,

521
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 5: that's where they belong to.

522
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hesitate to put them there.

523
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 5: I give people credit when they actually put them down

524
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 5: in the mid twenties or whatever.

525
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

526
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Speaker 2: Twenty one is Minnesota.

527
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Speaker 4: Tackles are great inside of bad.

528
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Speaker 2: Twenty are the Raiders. It's okay. I mean I don't

529
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: love the right side.

530
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

531
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Speaker 2: At nineteen we have the Arizona Cardinals.

532
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Speaker 4: Johnson.

533
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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be a really good player the center,

534
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 5: I was sole. Yeah, it's a lot better than people think.

535
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 5: I mean he kind of sounds like a hobbed or something,

536
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 5: but he's not a lot of pedigree.

537
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: But he's been a really good player for that. He

538
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: actually played high school football with James Daniels. Oh did

539
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 3: he I got that? Okayed nugget there for good nugget?

540
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 3: Uh And Calvin Beacham's still starting for them at right tackle.

541
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: Now that's crazy. He's not your classic right tackle.

542
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 4: Well, because what's this face? Joan Williams was hurt.

543
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: It's hurt. I guess they made that a Joan I are.

544
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna Yeah.

545
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: Eighteen are the Carolina Panthers.

546
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 5: It's okay, I mean might be the best thing that

547
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 5: they have going for I would say, especially with Derek

548
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 5: Brown getting hurt. But Icky's not lived up to the

549
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 5: building at left tackle. Yeah, you know that's a big investment.

550
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 5: They need to get more fro him. Same thing for

551
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 5: the team. At seventeen, it's the Chargers.

552
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I think they're better than that.

553
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 5: Well, but there's saying I mean they're young, and yeah,

554
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 5: they kind of remind me of the Steelers a little bit.

555
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of youth.

556
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: There's a lot of young offensive tax guard that they

557
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: drafted high right, but the center's Bradley Boseman and that's.

558
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: Not how they wanted to go do it. No, Lindsay

559
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 3: had heart issues. Yeah.

560
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: Sixteen are the Steelers.

561
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 5: After one week and knowing what we know about them

562
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 5: and some shuffling, I'm fine with that. Yeah, it's fair

563
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 5: they call see them all to a starter on there

564
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 5: or not yet? Okay listing Spencer Anderson Yeah, yeah, and

565
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 5: I think that's significant.

566
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Speaker 2: Uh. At fifteen are the Denver Broncos.

567
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they're not very similar to Steelers. I

568
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 5: mean in their style. I don't think they have a

569
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 5: super high ceiling as a line, but it's one of

570
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 5: the things they do best too. I mean it's they

571
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 5: don't do a lot. Well, yeah, they've invested a lot.

572
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: Ben Powers against Cam Hayward.

573
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that.

574
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 3: Get to like that matchup and then Wattenberg if they

575
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: have to double Hayward, Like, what what's the idea?

576
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: You know, the Steelers are in their base defense.

577
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 5: If Benton's getting one on ones with Wattenberg right out,

578
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 5: because you know they're helping the right tackle.

579
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to do right right.

580
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just presents a.

581
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: Lot of problems. Fourteen are the Bears.

582
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 5: I don't love the interior, but it's okay. I mean

583
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,959
Speaker 5: I would take the Steelers of probably the Broncos over the Bears.

584
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 2: Thirteen are the Buccaneers.

585
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 5: Barton looks like a really really good player and worst

586
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 5: as a stud. Get Gy is much better at right tackle,

587
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 5: So that switched in a lot of good. Yeah. Yeah,

588
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 5: I think that's on the rise. Offensive line Packers are

589
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 5: at twelve. I wasn't super impressed with what they did.

590
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 5: I always look at that line and think the hole

591
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 5: is greater than the sum of the parts or whatever

592
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 5: that's saying is because there's no stars.

593
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: But they're always solid. He's a good player. Yeah, I

594
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: bet their line coach is good. Eleven or the Jets

595
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: didn't look great against the Niners. He did not, And

596
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: I mean I thought Smith looked a little old. Moses

597
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: looked heavier to me, like, not in a good way.

598
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I get it. There's a good players there.

599
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Moses could not part the red scene in the

600
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: game of forty nine er players. Ten are the forty

601
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: nine ers. That's pretty pretty generous. It is pretty generous.

602
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 3: I think they have a find in Puny. The guard

603
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: Williams is still a stud. And then it's just a

604
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: bunch of dudes.

605
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

606
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: At nine you have the Falcons.

607
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 5: We haven't mentioned Miami yet. Miami is not that they're

608
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 5: bad liners together Falcons.

609
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: Falcons at nine had a tough day.

610
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: But I think they'll be a top five group.

611
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 5: Eight are the Browns not currently constructed?

612
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 4: No, I mean, considering the tackle injuries.

613
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: James Hudson at left tackle and Day one Jones at

614
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: right tackle is a problem.

615
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: No, they should be well lower. You know, there were also.

616
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 3: People crediting Day one Jones as being one of the

617
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: better tackles in last year's draft.

618
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's.

619
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Speaker 5: A great pick for a third or fourth rounder or

620
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 5: wherever he was. I mean, he looks like a starter

621
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Speaker 5: to me. Yeah, I don't think he's going to probo

622
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Speaker 5: after No. So I was listening to an All twenty

623
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 5: two b I didn't watch the All twenty two of

624
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 5: Dallas Browns, but I was listening to an All twenty

625
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 5: two breakdown of what Zimmer did to Watson, and that's alarming.

626
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 5: And what he did was tons of twists and stunts

627
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 5: and slants because they wanted Watson to operate out of

628
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 5: structure because he's so bad at it now and that's

629
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 5: what he used to be, like the best in the

630
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 5: league at Yeah, like he has nothing to hang his

631
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 5: hat on anymore.

632
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: He really doesn't.

633
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

634
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. At seven the Dolphins, I don't see that.

635
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 2: I don't either, Himan. I think that's a lot of

636
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 2: scheme based stuff. Six the Cowboys, I don't know that.

637
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 4: There's a rookies, a center and a left tackle starting.

638
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 5: I mean they did well against they did okay against

639
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 5: the Browns. The Browns d wasn't horrible in that game.

640
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 5: I mean that wasn't the problem. Yeah, they wouldn't be

641
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 5: ranked that high for me, though. I think they have

642
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 5: the best guards.

643
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: In the league.

644
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: Five is the Bills.

645
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 5: Coming around, you know they I like that they draft

646
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 5: o Cyrus Torrance and you know Maulers. I think they're

647
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 5: starting to realize their identity in the city they live in.

648
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: I don't look at the top five little.

649
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 2: No, I don't either. Four as the Chiefs. Fine with that.

650
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can go that high on

651
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: them either though them. Yeah, Juwan Taylor is not a

652
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: good football.

653
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: No.

654
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 5: I think he's a bad investment, like he was a

655
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 5: high paid free agent suet. I think will end up

656
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 5: being fine, but he's very raw.

657
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

658
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 2: I mean the interior is fine, it's good.

659
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

660
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you're if you're good on the interior

661
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: a bad tackle, you get a bad offensive line.

662
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

663
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: You'd rather be the Vikings and have two tackles and yeah,

664
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: guards just fine guard.

665
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

666
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 5: I also they trace Smiths a free agent after this

667
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 5: year and have an easy time sign Yeah.

668
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: They especially since they invested in Humphrey.

669
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and to he's expensive and Taylor is expensive.

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00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: The Colts at three, yeah, I'm fine with that.

671
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a real solid group. The Eagles at too, Yes,

673
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: but Jurgons and uh the other guard Mackay Beckton Yeah

674
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: or questions, Yeah, okay.

675
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 5: Last week, yeah he was, he was. I mean, it's

676
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 5: he's not Kelsey, of course. I mean, but replacing a

677
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 5: Legends is not going to be easy. But it's still

678
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 5: one of the best lines in the league, and that

679
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 5: leaves it one the Troy. The Troy, Yeah, clearly. I mean,

680
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 5: if I had any lineman in the league to build around,

681
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Speaker 5: it would be Penny Soul probably.

682
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the rest of their drives are all solid,

683
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: real good. Rag Now is great, great, right, I love

684
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: the name reminds me of Vikings.

685
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: He should play for the Vikings. That's just that's not

686
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: a bad list.

687
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: I do think the Steeler line, unless they get crushed

688
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 5: further by injury, will keep going up.

689
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you to mentioned Fraser had a really solid Yeah opening.

690
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 5: Week, Like if if you could if when the starting

691
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 5: guards are in and Fraser's in, I think that interior

692
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 5: will be a double every week, you know what I mean, Like,

693
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 5: it'll be solid, and I think the tackle play one

694
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 5: day will be a home run, one will be a whift.

695
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Speaker 2: You know, did you speaking a Fraser? Did you see

696
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: the Brian Baldinger.

697
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: Video that he put out on Twitter showing all the

698
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Speaker 3: Zach Fray He's just I was I was counting Zach

699
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: Fraser knockdowns in this game, and I just stopped at ten.

700
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: It's like it was almost the way he was.

701
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: Talking about Zach Fraser. It was almost like he was listening,

702
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: you know. It was also almost like porn for him,

703
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: like this.

704
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 5: Is just too good. Yeah, yeah, a century overload. Yes,

705
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 5: and he's way above his years. Yeah, that's without question.

706
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Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a great player.

707
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: I do too.

708
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 5: I do too, I mean fast, The fact that he

709
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 5: acclimated this quickly. I know that's just one game, but

710
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 5: the preseason he was Brandon Thorne's number one p right,

711
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 5: and he's really steady, sturdy, right, mentality.

712
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 3: All that stuff.

713
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, really good young player who again the movement skills

714
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: that he brings and the ability to get to the

715
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: second level.

716
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah once he.

717
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: Kind of I don't think they're they're asking him to

718
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: do crazy stuff yet.

719
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: No, No, he's not doing pouncy stuff.

720
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think Austin stuff down the road, they

721
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: may start doing that stuff again if they want.

722
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it'll only get better with his doubles, with

723
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 5: his guards and when to get to the next level

724
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 5: and protection and all that stuff too.

725
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: But he's just always moving out there.

726
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 5: Constantly, You're right, I mean to the whistle and beyond,

727
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 5: always looking for work, you know, I mean. He I'm

728
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 5: excited to see him play and won't get this week,

729
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 5: but I'd love to see him do sixty reps against

730
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 5: exter Lawrence, you know, I mean, the best of the best.

731
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 4: You know that, and that will be a challenge.

732
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: For everybody we'll see, you know that'll come.

733
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, now he started super impressive.

734
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good start for sure. Let's get through another break.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're

736
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Speaker 3: listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 3: Matt and I will be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

739
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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio, and we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is

742
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Speaker 2: Dean Matt Williamson, and Matt.

743
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Speaker 3: I was thinking today trying to come up with some

744
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: topics for my five for Friday. We didn't have the

745
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: stat package yet, right, We're right. Sometimes gives me some

746
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 3: ideas for different things. I'm like, what can I what

747
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: can I write about off of that game last Sunday?

748
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: And I started thinking about it. I'm like, you know,

749
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: Steelers scored on six of their ten possessions in that game.

750
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Speaker 3: When was the last time or how many times did

751
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: they do that last year? Where they had when they

752
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: scored points on five or all?

753
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, six possessions in one game?

754
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and over fifty percent of their possession drive.

756
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

757
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: And so I was go game by game and check

758
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: it out. Yeah, have some things that I can look

759
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: at there on that And so I did. And they

760
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: had three games last year where they scored on at

761
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: least fifty percent or more of their possessions. Wow, just

762
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: fifty percent. Those came against Cincinnati as we met Seattle

763
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Speaker 2: and green Bay.

764
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Speaker 3: Now, the Cincinnati game and Cincinnati and Seattle games were

765
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Speaker 3: in December with Mason rudolpht quarterback.

766
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Speaker 4: I say, I think they were both Roodolph games.

767
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: These were both Rudolph games. The Green Bay game was

768
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: a Kenny Pickett game that was on November eleventh. The

769
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: Steelers also in that game on Sunday, possessed the ball

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Speaker 3: for thirty five minutes and thirty six seconds against the Falcons.

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00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: So I said, how many times did they how they

772
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Speaker 3: passed that? Yeah, there were two games last.

773
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Speaker 5: Such a big number. It's a huge like that doesn't

774
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 5: shock me if that number is low.

775
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Speaker 2: They did it against the Bengals on November twenty sixth

776
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Speaker 2: the first time.

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00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: Okay, first Bengals around.

778
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Speaker 2: Thirty seven minutes and seventeen seconds. That's the one nause

779
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: you had. They had a ton of rushing yards.

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Speaker 3: I think that was the I think that was the

781
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 3: Firemouth game as well, where they're just moving the ball assistently.

782
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: And the Seattle game again thirty seven minutes thirty three

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Speaker 3: seconds against Seattle.

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Speaker 5: Okay, another not too great run defense. Yeah, you know right, No,

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Speaker 5: that's those are big numbers. I mean, thirty two's a lot, yeah,

786
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Speaker 5: let alone thirty five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean if you average for the anything over thirty

789
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: minutes for the season, is you're going to be in

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Speaker 2: the top yeah ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. I bet thirty two to thirty three

792
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Speaker 3: leads the league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh. The other thing that I looked up, they had

795
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Speaker 3: eight third down conversions in the game. How many times

796
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Speaker 3: you think they did that last year? Who?

797
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: Never?

798
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: They had one game Bengals in November.

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Speaker 5: Okay, sometimes you get the good matchup and you can,

800
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Speaker 5: you know, raise all tides here, raise all ships or whatever.

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Speaker 3: They were eight to seventeen in that game against the Bengals.

802
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: They were eight to seventeen in this game against the Falcons.

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Speaker 3: They did have a couple of games or their fifty

804
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: They had fifty percent conversion rate, but they didn't have

805
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Speaker 3: as many attempts.

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00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 5: Okay, so you know me, I always like to look

807
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 5: at the denominator too. You get into third down seventeen times.

808
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: Too many, it's too many. It's not great.

809
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 5: But they also held the ball a lot, so snap

810
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 5: more balls, and therefore you have more third downs, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So that needs to help it. Yeah, a lot of

812
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: third and shorts too.

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00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: There were a lot of third and shorts.

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Speaker 2: I think I saw this.

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Speaker 3: Of the eight conversions third down conversions, Fields had five

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Speaker 3: of them with his legs.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't surprise me at all. Yeah, and some of

818
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 5: them were plunges.

819
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple.

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00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: There were a couple of plunges. The one that they

821
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: didn't get was on fourth down. But they had converted

822
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: a couple of those quarterback sneaks earlier. In the game.

823
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Speaker 5: But it's also I mean part of the play calling too.

824
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 5: I mean, so many rollouts and if it's third and

825
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 5: four and your first read's not there, I like his

826
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Speaker 5: chances with his feet moving just to pick up pick

827
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Speaker 5: that up, or you know, make somebody miss. Yeah, whatever,

828
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 5: I mean, it's nice to have. I mean, of course

829
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Speaker 5: it's because I'm saying, but.

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Speaker 2: He's bigger, I think than a lot of people, no question,

831
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Speaker 2: I understand.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he was gonna put himself in harm's

833
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 5: way as much as he might have if he'd have

834
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 5: been in a package or whatever too, or if Wilson

835
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 5: was healthy, or if Wilson was the two even you know, like,

836
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Speaker 5: I don't know how they'll handle it this week, but

837
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Speaker 5: any chance Wilson's the two as opposed to the.

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Speaker 2: Three, I mean, that's always hairy.

839
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Speaker 5: And then yeah, everyone in the national media'll be like, oh,

840
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 5: Fields is the one now?

841
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: Not necessarily right, I don't think that's the case. I

842
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: think when Wilson is ready to go, he'll be.

843
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: Ready to go.

844
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: He'll start yeah. Yeah, And in some.

845
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Speaker 2: Ways I wonder I don't know if this would be

846
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: something outwardly that Mike Tomlin would do, but you maybe

847
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: don't want Russell Wilson going back into that building. I

848
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: don't know if that's good, bad, or ugly, you know

849
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: what I mean?

850
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: Right, because the Broncos fans are probably not gonna be

851
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: real kind to him, of course not.

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00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: And he did nothing wrong there, No, and I don't

853
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: I mean he's gonna be.

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00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: They traded for him and then paid him. He didn't

855
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: hold out or something like that.

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00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 5: No, he didn't treat them wrong, right, I mean he

857
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 5: wasn't worth the price they paid, of course. But yeah,

858
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 5: I mean I think in a game like this, you

859
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 5: really want a steadying influence, and nine out of ten

860
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 5: times that's Wilson more than Field.

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00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

862
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 5: But in this instance, is he gonna try to prove

863
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 5: something he shouldn't or you know, I don't know. I mean,

864
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 5: it's a weird dynamic to start the season with your

865
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: offensive coordinators a new team and then your quarterbacks new team.

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00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is an emotion.

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00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is a big range of emotions. But

868
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: you know, one of the other reasons why I feel

869
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: when Wilson is healthy, they're going to go back to Wilson,

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Speaker 3: it's the red zone passing huge he had twenty touchdown

871
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: passes in the red zone last year. Yeah, twenty huge.

872
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 3: The Steelers haven't had twenty touchdown passes and a season

873
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: since Roethlisberger was a time ben.

874
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they have twelve.

875
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: They had thirteen touchdown passes regardless of where they were

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00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: at on a field.

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00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: Last year. He had twenty just in the red zone. Yeah,

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00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: I had twelve the year before, I mean horrible.

879
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't know. Would he have thrown three

880
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 5: touchdowns in Atlanta? I don't know, but I like his chance.

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00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 2: To better the one. I bet there's probably one, and

882
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: I mean at least shot into the end zone.

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00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 5: I think they had thirteen snaps in the red zone

885
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 5: or something like this, you know, eleven or thirteen. I

886
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 5: bet that he lets one fly or they call different

887
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 5: play that then or take or something like that. You know,

888
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 5: I definitely think that. A couple of buddies were asking me,

889
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 5: I was, you know, who who do you think should start?

890
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, Wilson, Like why I might he throws

891
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 5: a touchdown passes?

892
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's been my theme all off season.

893
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: They're kind of important, they're hard to win without him,

894
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: and they've remarkably done it without it. You know, I

895
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: don't think in his heart of hearts, Mike Tomlin wants

896
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 3: to play football this way, not this close to the best?

897
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 4: No, you know, right right?

898
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: I think he'd like to. Who'd enjoy winning a game

899
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: by more than a score?

900
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: I saw this the other day.

901
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 5: That's Tomlin's fifth career win without scoring an offensive touchdown.

902
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: Man, I mean it's remarkable. I mean, that's a tough

903
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: way to go. It really is. And again, it's remarkable

904
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: to do that. But if the Steelers can start two

905
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: and oh this week, if they get to off to

906
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 3: that two and oh start, this according to the NFL,

907
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: and this since the start of the nineteen ninety season, Okay,

908
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: your chances of making the playoffs are six almost sixty

909
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: four percent if you could get off to a two

910
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: and oh start. If you start one in one it's

911
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: forty two percent. You think it'd be significant difference. Yeah,

912
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: it's just a difficult difference.

913
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: If you start zhering two, which Cleveland and Cincinnati are

914
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: staring in the face.

915
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: Say, yeah, what if the two Ohio teams.

916
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Lose eleven point five percent?

917
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 5: Especially in this division, where I think it's even graver danger.

918
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, if you're if you're sitting

919
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 5: there doing two to oho and three and two or

920
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 5: three of the teams are two and one or three

921
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 5: and oh good luck.

922
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think it's, uh, you know this, this

923
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: sets up well for the Steelers if they can win

924
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: this game. This is only the second time since the

925
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 2: two thousand and one season we're we'll open with back

926
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: to back road games. They lost the first game on

927
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: the road in Jacksonville, Okay, but they then won at

928
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: Buffalo the next week to start one and one. They

929
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: went thirteen to three that year.

930
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 5: I don't know the numbers off the top of my head,

931
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 5: but you know, in like NFL history or since the

932
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 5: merger or since two thousand, whatever numbers they've come up with,

933
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 5: it's like thirty three percent chance to win two road

934
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 5: games in a row, no matter when they are, and

935
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 5: like a third or one in a row it goes

936
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 5: down to like seventeen percent.

937
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: Really hard.

938
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 5: It's really hard, you know, and not even just open

939
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 5: the season. Just winning back to back road games, no

940
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 5: matter what in NFL history is hard.

941
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: I'll say this though, of the AFC teams, all the

942
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 3: teams in the AFC, the Steelers are one sixty three,

943
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 3: one fifty six and two all time on the road.

944
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: Doesn't sound that great.

945
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: That's great. That's five hundred.

946
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: That's against AFC opponents AFC against AFC. That five to

947
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: eleven winning percentage.

948
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 4: I bet it's like first or second.

949
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: It's first.

950
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet the patrioive hundred is great. The Patriots

951
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: are second at four ninety one.

952
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

953
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure if you just took their best years,

954
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 5: they're probably at sixty percent.

955
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

956
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: I mean, if you just took the Steelers seventies years,

957
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're at sixty percent.

958
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: Two.

959
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: Since the start a free agency in nineteen ninety three,

960
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: which a little more relevant, so that was in history, Yes, yeah,

961
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: since ninety started in ninety three, which is also coincides

962
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: with when I started covering the NFL, the Steelers have

963
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: been even better in road games.

964
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: They're winning percentage is five point fifty. Only the Patriots

965
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 3: at five ninety two have been better.

966
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 5: Okay, I wonder what Tomlin is against other Hall of

967
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 5: Fame type coaches. I bet he can hold his own

968
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 5: with anyone in road. So, I mean they're ten and

969
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: three in their last thirteen road games. Really, difficult to do.

970
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 5: That's really hard to do. I mean that's one game

971
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 5: this year, all last year, and then a stretched the

972
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 5: year before. I mean that wasn't with Ben, you know,

973
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 5: and that wasn't I mean, it's ten and three on

974
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 5: the road. I didn't count the Bills playoff game. That's

975
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 5: this regular season, and then this one I found was not.

976
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 5: Somebody actually tweeted me and it's it's one hundred percent right.

977
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 5: They've won their last thirteen road games when leading going

978
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 5: into the fourth quarter. It's not easy to close teams

979
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 5: out in their own in their own building, right, right,

980
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 5: that's the longest streak of the NFL.

981
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: Doesn't surprise me at all.

982
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 5: Now, thirteen in a row. I mean you might have

983
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 5: trust me. In the last thirteen road games when they've

984
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 5: been leading going the fourth quarter, it's not by thirty.

985
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: And they've probably been underdogs in a lot of those games.

986
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 5: A lot of the games. Yeah, and we all know

987
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 5: they're not winning by massive margins.

988
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not.

989
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 5: When the Niners came here in Week one, Yeah, of

990
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 5: course they won that game leading, but I bet a

991
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 5: lot of one point leads, yeah, point leads.

992
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

993
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 3: It is remarkable and uh, you know, so these are

994
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: things that you shouldn't take for granted. Yeah, winning on

995
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: the road in the NFL is difficult.

996
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 5: It's really difficult, you know, Closing teams out in fourth quarters,

997
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 5: one score games, all these type of things where they

998
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 5: excel at are not an accident to me.

999
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: No, they aren't, and so yeah, enjoy them.

1000
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 5: I bet a lot of people were shocked that they're

1001
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 5: ten and three in their last thirteen road games. Yeah,

1002
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 5: I mean that's a remarkable record. If five hundred's good,

1003
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 5: ten out of thirteen is pretty darn good, ten out

1004
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 5: of thirteen is remarkable.

1005
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good.

1006
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: Goods absolutely.

1007
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: I also should make note that, of course, Chris Boswell

1008
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: was named the AFC Special Teams Player of the Week. Yeah,

1009
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 3: not a surprise.

1010
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, the punt comes up too, you know.

1011
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they throw the low icing on team even if

1012
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 3: he hadn't had the punt. Yeah, six for six and

1013
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: three from fifty yard three yards. Pluses.

1014
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 5: Did you say the other day that he has more

1015
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 5: fifty yard kicks than all Steeler kickers combined.

1016
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he now has thirty three, the rest of every

1017
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: other kicker in Steeler's history twenty seven.

1018
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: So he's a he blue. That didn't just happen in

1019
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: this game. Yeah. Wow, I mean he's had that record

1020
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,479
Speaker 2: since last year.

1021
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: Wow.

1022
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 5: Come by your all of them together. Yeah, he's the

1023
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 5: best you kicker in all time, right, Yeah? Gary Anderson

1024
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 5: was really good for his hero Sweez was good.

1025
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1026
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Anderson went to his share Pro Bowls and

1027
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 5: but I'll take bas all day long.

1028
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he's the long range stuff alone, especially

1029
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: it's really picked up over the last four or four

1030
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: or five years.

1031
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 5: I don't remember him being a bombs away specialist early on.

1032
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1033
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 5: I think it's yeah, a trust factor with Tomlins and

1034
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 5: maybe that's it too, maybe just trying more. I was

1035
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 5: nervous as could be when they tried the first one

1036
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 5: for fifty seven because it is indoors though I know,

1037
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 5: I know, and they obviously trust him to know end.

1038
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 3: And some of that matters, like some of the guys,

1039
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: like he's sixth all time on the on the all

1040
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: time field goal list percentage made percentage. Two of the

1041
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: guys ahead of them have kicked primarily indoors. Who is

1042
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: one of them? Yeah?

1043
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I mean I remember as a kid, I

1044
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 5: was referenced Andrews, Gary Anderson, him and mort and Anderson

1045
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 5: were the best too.

1046
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: And I'm like, this.

1047
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 5: Isn't that right, That's like Breeze versus Ben.

1048
00:44:59,120 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 4: You know.

1049
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 3: So Boswell has made twenty eight out of thirty field

1050
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: goal attempts indoors in his career.

1051
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: In his career, that's a ninety three point three percent.

1052
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

1053
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 5: It's pretty good. Yeah, And it's a big body of work.

1054
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 5: It's not I mean, it's it's a pretty good chunk.

1055
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 3: Coup has made one hundred and five of one hundred

1056
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 3: and sixteen of his field goal attempts indoors.

1057
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: That's ninety point five.

1058
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: Uh, he's just fifty to fifty nine outdoors in eighty

1059
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: four point five percentage.

1060
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 2: And some of his outdoors are Carolina right, Tampa right.

1061
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 4: It's not you know, getting you know, it's.

1062
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: Not going to Cleveland in December. It's not Pittsburgh in December.

1063
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 5: I mean, we give Vinitari a hard time, but where

1064
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 5: he was kicking in New England, not not eighty That's

1065
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 5: a different world, man. I mean, or a Buffalo kicker,

1066
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 5: Norwood or Tucker or you know, anyone in that neck

1067
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 5: of the woods.

1068
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: Even Seattle's tough place.

1069
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 3: To podcast.

1070
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1071
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Boswell was pretty good and well deserved winning

1072
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: at the AFC Special Teams Player of the Week.

1073
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 5: Yeah he's yeah, steady Eddy, consistency and all that is phenomenal.

1074
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's get to a holder now though new holder

1075
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: Corlis Weightman has worked with him before though. That was

1076
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: one of the reasons why when people wondered why they

1077
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: kept Presley Harvin over weightman.

1078
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Weightman had never held in college.

1079
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 5: Weightman's a lefty, right, Yeah, I never really got gave

1080
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 5: us any thought. But he still has to he doesn't

1081
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 5: line up on the other side now, No, you know,

1082
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 5: as an older I mean I wonder is being a

1083
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 5: lefty different catching And that.

1084
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: Whole season that he was on the Steelers practice squad,

1085
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: they worked on that.

1086
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a lot.

1087
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sure because it's not like he's gonna flip

1088
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 5: it around so we can catch it with his left hand.

1089
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 3: Right as Boswell's coming from right right footed kicker, you

1090
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: need to I bet it's a little harder for him.

1091
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get through a break. That's going to do

1092
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: it for our number the one of the drive here

1093
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and Now will be

1094
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: back with our number two.

1095
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 3: Right after this