1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm walking stuff. I 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: never told you Abduction of iHeart Radio, and. 3 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: We're doing another classic for this feminist movie Friday, because 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: we'd love a good classic. Excuse my voice. I'm started 5 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: to think that I'm now going into my late night 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: radio voice, you know, that kind of easy, smooth listening. 7 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm not as good as Delilah. Do you all remember Delilah? 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: This is a throwback as well in the nineties eighties, 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: I think, do you know what I'm talking about? 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. But when I 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: first started, somebody wrote in and said, you remind me 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: of the schweaty Ball segment from Saturday Night. 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: Okay, that actually made me choke. It's amazing, you know what. 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: That's a compliment because the NPR voice is a special 15 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: voice that people have and it's very soothing. I need 16 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: to channel that. I need to channel that with my 17 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: mixed Korean country accent I have. But anyway, speaking of classics, yes, 18 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: because Shreddy Balls is a classic. M'st be honest, We're 19 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: coming back with a thirty year old classic. In fact, 20 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: I feel like we do this all the time, where 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: we hit it right on the head. And yes, it's 22 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: from a like a nineteen ninety five movie, and the 23 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: fact that that's thirty years makes me again have a 24 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: panic attack because what anyway, moving on, and you know what, 25 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: this is also one of those surprise but not surprise 26 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: movies that Annie has never seen. I was I was 27 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: like what, I was like, yeah, okay, that tracks. How 28 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: old were you when this came out? It was ninety five, 29 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: have been like six or seven? Yeah, so you were young, 30 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: but you watched a lot later on, so I'm surprised 31 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: that it never came back to you. 32 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of too. No, Wow, that's interesting. 33 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: So of course I had to make a request for 34 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: you to tell us what you have envisioned or what 35 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: you were thinking that this movie is about before even 36 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: watching it, because again, I've not met many people who 37 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: have not seen this movie, so I needed to know 38 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: what you thought this movie was going to be about. 39 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm not sure we said it, but we're 40 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: talking about Clueless. 41 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got to add that, y'all. We were 42 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: talking about Clueless, Yes, the classic. 43 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Hopefully the title would give you some heads up on that. 44 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: But yes, I had not seen it, so I wrote 45 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: this prediction before I watched it, and here here's the quote. 46 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: I think that romance will happen between the lead actress 47 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: who wears iconic outfits and drives nice cars with Paul Rudd. 48 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: She is clueless about how good a guy he is, 49 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: and or she must confront how oblivious she is in 50 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: terms of money. Also, this is not Clue. I kept 51 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: having to remind myself, which. 52 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: Is another classic which I loved as a kid. Clue 53 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: was one of my favorite favorite movies. I could quote 54 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: that movie so well as a kid, and I didn't 55 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: even know half the things that it's like. It meant 56 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: like Red Herring had no clue what that meant, but 57 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: I said it often and I didn't know it was anyway, 58 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: We're not talking about Clue, correct. I liked your predictions 59 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: is very generic. Yeah, you know, I mean how wrong I. 60 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: Have to say. When I first started watching it and 61 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: I found out Paul Rudd was the like stepbrother, I 62 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I'm so wrong. I'm gonna have to 63 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: make fun of myself. And I was like, oh, okay, well, there's. 64 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: A lot of questionable things in this that we're going 65 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: to come back to that I was like, uh, maybe 66 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: maybe this shouldn't have been a thing, but whatever, we're 67 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: going to come back. But yes, thank you for that. Again, 68 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: you were really young, so honestly not surprised that you 69 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: didn't see it initially coming out, but I am surprised 70 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: that it never popped back up for you because it 71 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: is a classic, like people reference it videos. Ariana Grande 72 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: did a whole thing with this. I think the Australian 73 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: White Rapper Igizelia also through like a montage of it, 74 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: essentially kind of giving a throwbacks, and there's been plenty 75 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: since then because it's it's iconic. It's iconic. So this 76 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: is actually a retelling of Emma, and I didn't want 77 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: to tell you that. Have you ever read Emma, which 78 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: is a Jane Austin classic? No, you know anything about Emma? 79 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: Right then? Actually, Emma is one of two films that 80 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: stars Gwyneth Paltrow that I actually liked, and both of 81 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: the films that I like with her. She has an 82 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: English accent which makes me laugh. I don't think it's 83 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: good either, but I loved the movies. It was Emma, 84 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: which is like she kind of has that crying face 85 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: similar to Claire Days where everybody's like very distinctive crying face, 86 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: and she does that in Emma as well as Sliding Doors, 87 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: which is another movie that we're not talking about. And 88 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: so while we were looking for an inclusive film that 89 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: had a director that was a woman as well as 90 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: written by a woman, as well as starring a woman, 91 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: it was actually really difficult to find all the classics 92 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: because we were trying to do something lighthearted with all 93 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: of these things that we're talking about. We're having some 94 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: really great interviews with really deep talks, and we're like, 95 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: we'll do something that's kind of easy and like a 96 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: classic again, something that we would want to revisit so eventually, 97 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: so might as well do it now. But it was 98 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: really hard to find something that actually had all of 99 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 2: those criterias met because all of the classics that I'm like, 100 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: this is all to watch this one was you usually 101 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: directed by men, which I found surprising because the writers 102 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: may have been women who have pretty big names in 103 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: the industry that could control. And don't get me wrong, 104 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: and not that not that men can't direct. I'm sure 105 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: they're great at their job, you know, for men, but 106 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: like it's surprising in an industry that is lacking so 107 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: much when it comes to uh specifically directors who are women, 108 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: that they wouldn't find one. But anyway, this is how 109 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 2: it came upon Clueless again, one of the classics that 110 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: I did want to come revisit anyway, because yes, it's 111 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: one that exists that has all of those criterias met 112 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: as well as the fact that it is inclusive enough 113 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: that it actually has black characters that are not stereotypical 114 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: but stereotypical. So I don't know if that's a blossom not, 115 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: but you know what I mean. So let's jump into 116 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: it into Amy Heckerling's nineteen ninety five at classic Clueless, 117 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: which has Alicia Silverstone playing the iconic Schaer Horowitz, Stacey 118 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: Dad as Dion Davenport, Britney Murphy as Ty Fraser, Paul 119 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: Rudd as Josh Lucas, and so many others that you 120 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: will recognize obviously, and I'm not giving you know O 121 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: to them, but the list goes on and on. You 122 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: can go and look them up on IMDb. Not a sponsor, 123 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: so let's start Share is a popular sixteen year old 124 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: almost sixteen year old with high standards in a privileged 125 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: life during her trying times of finding out that she 126 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: did not do so well during her mid terms, she 127 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: decided to not only negotiate for better grades, but also 128 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: help out the lonely teachers that seem so miserable as well. 129 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: So she, with the help of her best friend diond 130 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: both named after famous musicians, UH worked their magic to 131 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: get mister Hall, the debate teacher, together with Misgeist, the 132 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: ethics teacher. By the way, I did not have these 133 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: subjects in high school, and this is my high school era. 134 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: Did you have those subjects? 135 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: I had ethics, did you? 136 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 137 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: I think it was grouped with so something else, but 138 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: there was ethics in the title. And then we've talked 139 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: about this. I had a class that featured debate, but 140 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it a debate class. Yeah. 141 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: That was in our English class, and it wasn't really 142 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: that much debate. Maybe I just didn't take the right classes. 143 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like debate was more of 144 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: an after school activity. But I did have a class 145 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: where we engaged it. 146 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. Interesting. So, with their plans successful, she 147 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: has done. The chair successful into philanthropy pushes her into 148 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: doing more and it's during this time she means Tie 149 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: a transplant from the East Coast. She Share and Diane 150 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: take her under her wings to transform her to become 151 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: a third in their group, all the while shared stepbrother 152 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: who was no longer her stepbrother since his mother and 153 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: her dad divorced. So but it comes around Josh have 154 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: clashed due to their differences, but of course in a 155 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: playful teasing manner. Josh is a law student, I think 156 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: because that will put him a twenty something twenties anyway, 157 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: a student with hopes of being an environmental law coming 158 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: to stay often with them, and was also very helpful 159 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: for her father's current case, which is like a big deal, 160 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: high profile, big deal. We never know what it's about though. 161 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: Back to Shares a special project Dion, and she's set 162 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: to make Ti the new popular girl and to get 163 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: her a boyfriend, because you know, popularity means you have 164 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: to have a boyfriend. Although Tye makes it a connection 165 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 2: with the class local class clown and high dude. He's 166 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: always hied and a skater boy. He's a skater boy. 167 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: He's a skater boy. 168 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Travis Cher advises her to find a more suitable 169 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: mate like Elton. By the way, the character Elton name 170 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: is actually in Emma, I remember correctly. She doesn't bring 171 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: that over anyway. Another popular kid whose father is a 172 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: music producer also a play on that. Unfortunately, Elton has 173 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: eyes for Share and this soon crushes thy spirit and 174 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: everybody else is planned. At the same time, a new 175 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: face comes into town, Christian, who Share is excited by 176 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: for the first time. So after pulling all her tricks 177 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: and seemingly being rejected, Oh no, she finds out that 178 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: he's actually gay, of course, and the two of them 179 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: become good friends, you know. At the same time, we 180 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: see that Josh rescues Tie from an embarrassing situation. Here 181 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: we have a fun guest, Mighty Mighty Bosstones. Do you 182 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: know who that is? Any? Did you know that was 183 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: a band? 184 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: I think they have a song that I know. It's 185 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: like a really popular one. 186 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: This is a big SKA era because also they featured 187 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: like a No Doubt in here. So this as long 188 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: as as well as ten Things I Hate About You, 189 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: have some amazing good like SKA tracks. Did you pick 190 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: up on the No Doubt one? I'm just a girl? 191 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: Oh at the beginning? 192 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yes, checking chick uh and Ty becomes smitten. 193 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: After being rescued and all as things turned into Ty's favor, 194 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: she suddenly becomes the it girl, which is now no 195 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: longer Share, and at the same time, Share fails her 196 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: drivers test, so no Shares confused, but through her long 197 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: process of trying to figure things out, she realizes that 198 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 2: she actually likes Josh and has a crush on Josh 199 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: and the fact that her tricks won't work on Josh 200 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: because you know, he's a college boy very much older 201 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: than her. But anyway, moving on, But soon they find 202 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: out that feelings were reciprocated and Ty once again realizes 203 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: she has a thing for Travis and at the wedding 204 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: of mister Hall and Missguy, so we have a happy 205 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: ending with everybody with their respective coupling. 206 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: Yes, and fighting over the bouquet. 207 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: Fighting over the bouquet, a little bit of flashing happens, 208 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: all those things, but Share wins. 209 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: End of show. 210 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: Any tell me your thoughts on this movie? 211 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, Well, I'm sure I'll have plenty of thoughts 212 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: in the themes. But I did really enjoy it. It 213 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: was quite It was not at all what I was expecting, 214 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: despite my vague prediction being kind of close. I was like, oh, 215 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, it was it was funny, Like I thought 216 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: it was really funny. There were a lot of people 217 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: that showed up. I wasn't expecting that. I enjoyed. I 218 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: didn't know Donald I was gonna be in there. The 219 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: accents were fun. I couldn't quite pin it down, but 220 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed them. And yeah, it was just kind 221 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: of a goofy. It was fun as the viewer because 222 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: you sort of know the punchline already. You get that 223 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: she's clueless already, so it was sort of fun to 224 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: hear her inner monologue and her trying to figure things 225 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: out when you're like, oh, I know. It also had 226 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: some moments that kind of I was not expecting. I 227 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: got like the being held up at gunpoint part freaked 228 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: me out. I was not expecting that at all. There 229 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: was just a couple of beats where I was like, okay, no, 230 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: I did not I did not know this was coming. 231 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: But no, I really I really enjoyed it. I thought 232 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: it was it was a fun It was a fun one, right. 233 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: It's the fun I think it's really easy watching very 234 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: fun one. It sort of holds up in that, at 235 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: least with the stereotype. They know when they're ridiculous like it. 236 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: It's very overstated and obvious what they're doing, I will say. 237 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: So let's go into the themes of course friendship. Friendship. 238 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: You know, the nineties really had some good setups for 239 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: girls supporting girls, women supporting women, and I think this 240 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: is one of those that definitely did tie in. Dion's 241 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: friendship is very like honest and brutal, but like really 242 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: cute and sincere. Like you wouldn't expect it to be 243 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: as chummy as they are and supportive. You expect it 244 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: to be like Amber, you know, the character who comes 245 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: in as like the opposite to share and her foil 246 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: essentially in the back and forth they have and the 247 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: jealousy and all of that nonsense. But you also have 248 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: the girls caring for girls the whole, like helping tie 249 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: of course, it was like charitable work in their head 250 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: and it turned into oh no, she's really cool type 251 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: of conversation. So it's really cute on that level. The 252 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: late Brittany Murphy who played this character rip she did 253 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: it an amazing job. They talked about her coming in 254 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: an audition and being like on point, and both she 255 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: and Alicia Silverstone really kind of came up from this role, 256 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: like this was kind of their beginning and they kind 257 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: of shot out into the universe. Brittany had always had 258 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: that vocal talent, so they featured her singing at the 259 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: you know, super cute with her being like a little 260 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: bit clumsy, like adorable person that she is. So it 261 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: was it was a nice little back and forth with them, 262 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: and of course the iconic lines of as if yeah, 263 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: you know that's that stuck around. That stuck around for 264 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: a long while, as well as you know Brittany Murphy's 265 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: line your virgin who can't drive? 266 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the reaction Alicia Stilversona had a response 267 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: to that. She's I was like, oh my gosh. 268 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: Girl, you hurt. She says, She's like, that was way harsh. 269 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: I love that they did say that the whole speech 270 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: when she talks about the Haitians, her mispronunciation, she didn't 271 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: know she was mispronouncing it, and like when people were 272 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: trying to correct it. The director he groling was like, no, 273 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: don't tell her, don't tell her. This is too cute. 274 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: We have to keep the sense no one tell her, 275 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: So like stuff like that. Super cute, but yes, the 276 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: whole friendship I really did like. And then they come 277 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: back together and like apologizing and realizing where they were 278 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: wrong and then like rebuilding that friendship into that. So 279 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: I thought it was really sweet on that level. And 280 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: then you have I've got charity work, Like essentially, there's 281 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: so much conversation about what rich people think would be 282 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: charity work, and it feels like this is on point 283 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: when she's helping to get all the donations for the 284 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: hurricane victims and all of that, and she's like among caviar, 285 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: of course, skis skis, but you know why, you do 286 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: what you can. And then her talking about her the 287 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: maid or the parts of the housekeeper and giving her her 288 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: the APLETs, and then you know the fact that she's 289 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: racist and called her Mexican and saying that I don't 290 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: speak Mexican. I'm like, e yeah, So we have that, 291 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 2: and it does kind of come to the fact that 292 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: like she's means well, but she's obviously very clueless in 293 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: her privilege. 294 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, And I mean that's kind of the 295 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, the ultimateth thing with her and Dionne taking 296 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: on Tie as a kind of charity case. In the beginning, 297 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: and then at the end, towards the end, after they 298 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: tie and share have their big fight, she's like, what 299 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: monster have I created? And guess what tie ends up 300 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: with the person she wanted in the beginning that they 301 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: steered her away from, so kind of having this well 302 00:17:52,119 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: meaning but completely clueless understanding of how things act actually work, 303 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: and just the way because you do get to see, Oh, 304 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: this is another thing I really love about this movie. 305 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: A lot of teenage movies do this. We've talked about 306 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: this before. I love how it's like they start class 307 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: and then she'll go up and do her debate and 308 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: then class is over. It's got to be like a 309 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: five minute class. I love it. But every debate you 310 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: see her and she's like just clearly not connecting. She's like, oh, 311 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: at this garden party I had and people that NORSVP 312 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: and she doesn't quite get it. And that's the you know. 313 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: The interesting thing with her and Josh is that Josh 314 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: is allegedly totally the opposite, where he's like, you never 315 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: think about anybody but yourself, And there is sort of 316 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: an ailment too, of the kind of white guilt of 317 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: I want to make myself feel better, and she doesn't 318 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: quite understand that either, Like she's doing a lot of 319 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: this for her, not because she actually cares. 320 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 3: Right. 321 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: She does kind of change towards the end when she 322 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: helps Miss Guist with the environmental effort, but it's still 323 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: sort of you know, she feels bad, so she. 324 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: Wants to her repertoive like I'm a good person, right, 325 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: and she does that a lot, to the point that he, 326 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: like Josh, does call that out. I'm like, I'm sure 327 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 2: this is serving you more than it is serving them, 328 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: is helping you more than it is helping them. So like, 329 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 2: you know, all of that is like very true, but 330 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: in her mind that's okay, it could be both. Uh. 331 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 2: And then we got the theme of love. Right, So 332 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 2: Misgeist and mister Hall getting together. That's a super cute 333 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: bit awkward bit, But the fact that their bad moods 334 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: could be resolved by love such a romantic trope. That 335 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: idea that like, yes, if they're in a good mood, 336 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: then if they find love, that's all they need to 337 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: solve all of the problems. Everybody's problems obviously, I mean 338 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: not gonna be wrong. When you're excited about a new relationship, 339 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: it does help and it does make you feel better, 340 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: and it does people can see that as well. But 341 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: I thought I was interesting. Yeah. So when I was 342 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: realizing I'm not gonna lie, I was thinking about this 343 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 2: movie before I watched it and thinking about, you know, 344 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: what will we talk about in it? And I remembered 345 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: the age gap and I was like, wait, is she 346 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: a senior? Oh, she's not a senior's sixteen? She's sixteen. 347 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: She's sixteen this day was in college or at least, 348 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: like the very least he's eighteen, but they're talking about 349 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 2: him being in law school, so he's probably at least twenty. 350 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 351 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: They never say his age appropriately, so but I'm like, oh, no, oh, no, no, 352 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: why why would we be so happy with this? 353 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: It's funny because I was looking up there was an 354 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: actor that I was like, I want to know who 355 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: this is, looking it up on IMDb, and the first 356 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: like Google results of you know what people search the 357 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: most was what is the age? 358 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 2: Did you get the result of that? That? 359 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't click on it, but yeah, yeah, And 360 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: it is kind of funny because we didn't talk about 361 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: this before, but Chaer doesn't is at first very against 362 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: dating high school boys. As mentioned, is a virgin and 363 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: it is really happy with that, which I kind of appreciated, 364 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: but then she sort of gets the taste for it 365 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: after she meets this gay guy. Unfortunately, I mean unfortunately 366 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: that's that was not going to work out. But yeah, 367 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: but she I couldn't tell if it was supposed to 368 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: be sort of a play on that because she didn't 369 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: end up with a high school boy. She ended up 370 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: with a college boy, right. And I remember this for 371 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: my time in high school. I don't know if you're 372 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: school was like this, but at prom, if you had 373 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: somebody was coming from another school or who was older 374 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: than a certain age, you had to get a slip 375 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: filled out like it was a whole deal, and it 376 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: was kind of like very gossip worthy of she's got 377 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: a college boy or something like that. 378 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: I just remember when people would talk about it, it would 379 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: be a scandal, because what college boy wants to come 380 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 2: back for a prom, Like if it was kind of 381 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: seen as shameful or a college person, not just a boy, 382 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: college person to come back to high school, which is 383 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: still like a year or two difference typically, so it 384 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: was like still looked out. I'm like, you couldn't find 385 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: anything better to do. 386 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: Well our proms, I'm sure you probably would agree with me, 387 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: but small town problems were not. 388 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 2: It was definitely in the cafeteria. 389 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, our was in the. 390 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: I was in the cafeteria, but like we all went 391 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: to Atlanta to eat and then came back yes to 392 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 2: I think we went to the hard Rock Cafe. 393 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: I went to Ruby Tuesday one time. 394 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Owinner Tuesday. 395 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: So the first prom, I can't remember where we went. 396 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: Then we went to a steakhouse in Canton. If you're 397 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: from Georgia, North Georgia, you know. And I had invited 398 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 2: a friend that had moved before we went to prom, 399 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: and I wasn't dating, but I didn't date anybody in 400 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: high school. So he came with us and he was 401 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: acting like by date and it freaked me out. I'm like, no, bro, 402 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: we're just I just wanted you to be with us 403 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: and I'm the only one that's single. So but like 404 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: he would hug me and I was like, no, we're 405 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: not dating, We're not dating. And then the second prom drama, 406 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: the guy who wanted to take me had just broken 407 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 2: up with my friend, and so I'm very like good 408 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 2: uh like good friends I would never, so I said no. 409 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: We said no, and he was like, I can take 410 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 2: you and her, and I'm like, that's super weird. I'm 411 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: not doing that. And then I had another guy who 412 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: was just a good guy friend who was supposed to 413 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: go with me, but his best friend tricked him into 414 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: asking another girl because they were wanting to go with pears. 415 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: Like her best friend was like, not going to go 416 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 2: unless she had a date, and he was like he 417 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 2: had apologized to me later because I was like, I 418 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: thought we were gonna go together. So I went by 419 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: myself with a crew of all my friends that had 420 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: all of their dates. They went on a carriage ride 421 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: and I stayed. 422 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: In the car. Goodness, wow, I mean that you could 423 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: have had a movie. 424 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: So that was my prom experience. But I think all 425 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: of the dates, like we had at least two of 426 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: our friends who brought So that guy that I was 427 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: talking about, he was a year older, but like he 428 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: didn't go to college anywhere he lived in town. I 429 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: don't think he technically graduated high school. I think he 430 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 2: got a ged, which is not a problem, but like 431 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 2: he had never gone to a problem before, so of 432 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: course we want him to come. But yeah, we've never 433 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: had to do a slip, never had someone from college 434 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 2: come back. Well, I'm sure we have. That's not true. 435 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: But again it was one of those like side eye, 436 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: why are you here? M conversations, because like, why would 437 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: you come back to go to a prom in a 438 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: cafeteria where the main song was she thinks my tractor 439 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 2: are sexy? You think and I'm not? That was the 440 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: main song for our prom? Wow? 441 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: Wow wow wow wow. That's interesting. I mean, I feel 442 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: like we had this similar There was a similar vibe, 443 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: but there was also a vibe of like, I don't know, mystery, 444 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: how did you get this college person to come? 445 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, for the person, yes, for the college person. No, 446 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: but yeah seeing this person like Paul Rudd's character who 447 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: getting lawsuited, thoroughly confused. 448 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the funny thing is, you know, this movie 449 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: is rife with I would say, magical movie makeovers. The 450 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: funny thing is, as I said, when I first started, 451 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm so wrong about 452 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: this prediction. WHOA. But then there's the scene where Cher's 453 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: walking down the stairs in her white dress to go 454 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: on to what she thinks is a date with Christian 455 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: and Paul Rudd looks at her and he's like, you're 456 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: not gonna let her go out like that to her dad, 457 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I might actually right. 458 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: And you were and you were. There's so many things 459 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: to that. That's like, first of all, why are they drinking? 460 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: The nineties did not care? No, I guess they don't 461 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: care now either, to be honest, like they have to 462 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: be cool all of those things, talking about espressos and 463 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: all these things, and no one really caring enough. The 464 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: fact that she's driving about with no license made me laugh. 465 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 2: I was like, wait, why are they okay with this? 466 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: Were we just really strict and ridiculous or is this 467 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: a trope that like they we did me being that 468 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: age of what a she was, I was like, man, 469 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: I wish I was like her. I wish I was 470 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 2: cool like her. I wish I could do the outfits 471 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: and the closets and the shoes and all these things. 472 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: So she was actually Alicia Silverstone was actually eighteen, so 473 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: she wasn't too far in age when she filmed this, 474 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: So all of those things just like wow, like looking back, 475 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 2: what she looked like versus what I looked like? Two 476 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: different two different places in life, two different places in life. 477 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: But with that, I know you you had to have 478 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: been loving the technology, the computer, the media. When she 479 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: is basing her day on the outfit that she's going 480 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 2: to wear. Yes, that was an actual program if I 481 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: remember correctly, like they created one I think after the fact. 482 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so listeners, look, you gotta look this up. But 483 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: basically it very near the opening of the movie uh 484 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: Share is on an old computer. Oh and she has 485 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: like a graphic for the top and the bottom of 486 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: an outfit and at the along the bottom of the 487 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: screen you can see things like jacket and pan and 488 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: all this, and she's just putting together these outfits and 489 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: it'll say like mismatch until she finally is like fall 490 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: fashion and she gets a match and that's what she wears. 491 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: But yes, I was. I was stunned and very happy 492 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: to witness this. 493 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 2: This is like the upgraded paper dolls essentially when you 494 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: mix like different clothes. But I remember, yeah, they I 495 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: think I want to say Vogue did something like where 496 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: they created this for you. So if you can download 497 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: a program with AOL like, no, none of these are 498 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: just like Swanson, but you can create your own profile 499 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: and try these iconic outfits. I think if I remember correctly, 500 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: I could be wrong. Listeners, I know you know what 501 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, So come back and tell me some 502 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: of you in my generation, because I'm pretty sure this 503 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: was something that came out after because people were so 504 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: excited by it, like they like, we would love this. 505 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: Although I did not have outfits like that a B. 506 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: I didn't have a lot of outfits, so it didn't 507 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: take that much effort to put together one. Uh. This 508 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: was my era of like I would wear jeans, a 509 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: T shirt and a flannel shirt. That was my go to, 510 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: like to the point that I remember people would draw 511 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: me that would be the outfit every time. Hey, it 512 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: still holds up along with my cardigans along. I've just 513 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: switched it up for cardigans and hoodies. But yeah, but 514 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: it was quite funny to see that iconic fashion that again, 515 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: that her opening outfit, the yellow plaid suit, small tweet 516 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: jacket and such. That's iconic. People know that that's the outfit. 517 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: People mimic. 518 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I knew. 519 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: An O to this show, the hat that Dion wears, 520 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: I remember that being a thing as well. 521 00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: Uh. 522 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: I think like this was the era of the Jeep, 523 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: the California kids, California girls and the Jeeps and the 524 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: California Boys and the jeep with the the top down 525 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: which flips very easily and kills a lot of people. 526 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: But you know, he's okay, you do you just drive carefully. 527 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: I did laugh when they got on the freeway and 528 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: it was such a dramatic scene They're all scream because 529 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: I know that's kind of an LA inside joke, but 530 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: it was just very funny. 531 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: But also like, I've been in traffic in LA and 532 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: with the drivers that we've been with terrifying. 533 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, terrifying. 534 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: And I say, this is an Atlanta driver who was 535 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: pretty aggressive in Atlanta. LA traffic is a whole different conversation. 536 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: And the way they weave in and out. I knew 537 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: we were going to die, but he cut that. He 538 00:31:52,480 --> 00:32:00,719 Speaker 2: cut the time down ten minutes somehow. The adventure we had, 539 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: the last adventure we had in LA, they took us 540 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: the back roads and like we're gonna get murdered. 541 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, where are we going? 542 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: But he was he was just as confused as like, 543 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: I don't know where we're going. I've never been this 544 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: way and I'm like, sir, sir, please don't tell us 545 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: this surprise things. 546 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: But yes I did. 547 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: Then the cell phones, the constant communicate. 548 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: They were in school just on their cell phones, in 549 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: class on their cell phones. 550 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: It was the beginning too, like nineteen ninety five, So 551 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: I'm really surprised. It wasn't the giant phones, but it 552 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: was the ones with the antenna all the way up 553 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: that you had to slam down. It was not a smartphone, 554 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: not a smartphone, no, no pictures could be taken. But 555 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: I do remember that I didn't have a cell phone 556 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: until I was out of for college, and that had 557 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: an antenna. I love that phone, man, I love that phone. 558 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: A good reception. That was before like all of the 559 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 2: yeah awful things happen. But with that the cell phone. 560 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: Did they have a pager? Yeah, they at the very beginning, 561 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: at the very beginning, because he was paging her the 562 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: entire time. 563 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: Dion's boyfriend, Murray was paging. 564 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: Murray Donald Donald face on, which is hysterical because they 565 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: do go back and forth and you do have a 566 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: moment of like Dawson's Creek monologue or like a dialogue 567 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: in which he sounds really adult and tie comes in 568 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: and she's like, wow, y'all talk like adults. And then 569 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: they simpled it down, like kind of dumb it down 570 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: with Yeah, the school is really good. It's a really 571 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 2: good school. 572 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: I love like. 573 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: I felt like that was an ode to that as well. 574 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, that is the classic clueless and we did 575 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 2: it in the thirtieth year. I'm sure we'll hear more 576 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: about it. I feel like they talk more about it 577 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: and like do July because that was the last article 578 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: was like the twenty fifth anniversary. I think twenty with 579 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 2: the anniversary is a bigger deal than the thirtieth, but 580 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: who knows. There was nothing surprising. There was nothing that 581 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: I didn't remember from that movie. So I was like, okay, 582 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 2: so I've seen this enough. Yeah. I was surprised about 583 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: how young Paul would look because he still looks so young. 584 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had that thought too. I had that thought too. 585 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: Oh. 586 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: I was thinking about like all the women in the cast, 587 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: and then I was like, but Paul read nothing against him, 588 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: but he's the one that's like, you know, still really 589 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: active for various reasons. But I was like, yeah, I 590 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: mean he's still still looks like that. Essentially, they do 591 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: have a lot of talk abo about that in here. 592 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: A lot of jokes about like, you know, getting liposection 593 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: or getting cosmetic surgery of some kind, and a lot 594 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: of weight jokes, which was just very common in the nineties. 595 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: But they were done, like you said, pretty like tongue 596 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: in cheek, right, But yeah, they're. 597 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 2: There, Like there was shaming, but you're not your typical 598 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't very like one sided. Was there absolute like 599 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: obvious indications. Yes, it's the nineties, of course, but like 600 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: it's not as horrific as some movies really. 601 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: Go oh yeah, No, A lot of it did feel 602 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: very very like we know what we're doing here, right. 603 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: Right, So there you go, Annie, Thank you for going 604 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: down this memoried lane your first time with me. 605 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: It was fun. I had no idea what was going 606 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: to have, but I didn't know what I was in for. 607 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 2: That's so crazy to me. 608 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: And I had a good time. I had a good time. 609 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 1: So I can recommend Okay listeners if you have any 610 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: thoughts about this or any recommendations. I know a lot 611 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: of people go as clueless for like Halloween or something, 612 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: So if you have any images you would like to share, 613 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: that would be great. You can email us at Hello 614 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: at duffnevertold you dot com. You can find us on 615 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: Blue Sky at mom Stuff podcast, or on Instagram and 616 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: TikTok at stuff when Never Told You. We are also 617 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: on YouTube. 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