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Speaker 1: The business model now is direct support from your consumer.

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Speaker 1: and I said to myself, Loan, we hire from outside

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Speaker 1: are some women that are weaponizing the male version of

425
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: corny right on that side too. I do believe that

426
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: there's a woman's version of corny that's harmless, that's marriage

427
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: material to some women. I don't think they necessarily mean

428
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: it like some of the dudes are saying it, and

429
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: I think that's what's causing a lot of the confusion.

430
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: Let's speak about this. Master P went to the Breakfast

431
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: Club to promote some of his products, and also to

432
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: kind of respond to his name being in the public

433
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: over the last past few days. Right for those of

434
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: you unaware, not sure when you would catch this, but

435
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: fact Trail came out and spoke to his relationship with

436
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: master P and how that ended and why he felt

437
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: this though master P took advantage of him on several

438
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: occasions in regards to music. Just Hilarious came out and

439
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: spoke about being in I Got to Hook up to

440
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: and she alleged to not being paid her full rate

441
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: and claimed they had an agreement in place that was

442
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: not met. Fat Trail also released a encounter a DM

443
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: from him in Romeo, in which he cited that Romeo

444
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: was on his side and someone agreed to his stance

445
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: and as it pertains to master P, and so master P,

446
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: as we know, has transitioned out of music. And then

447
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: this is another reason why Pete must understand that people

448
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: don't want to hear you get them game about music,

449
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: because on one end you will say I'm out of music,

450
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: and then on the other end you will say you

451
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: gotta pay me to help me with your music. And

452
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: people are paying attention to what people are saying nowadays,

453
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: and if they're not, somebody around them is and they're dissecting,

454
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: and they're seeing if your message is diluded, and what's

455
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: the diffusion and what's the discrepancy in and they keeping

456
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: details on your dialogue and the diversions and what you

457
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: said over here versus what you said over there and

458
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: had those two things in the sect and do that

459
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: makes sense? And if he had money, would he be

460
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: doing this? And why he selling this? If he got that?

461
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: They looking at so much and rap world. It takes

462
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: so much to be in that keen position, right, And

463
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: that's why I tell people, man, it ain't it really

464
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: take a fool to want to be the best at

465
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: something the king or something like me, I want to

466
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: be at the top of podcast. And it's like it

467
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: takes a certain it takes a certain kind of insanity.

468
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: They even want to chase that, you know, because that

469
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: is a very unfamiliar territory. Number one and number two,

470
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: there is no free lunch, so it's damaged with being

471
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: at the top of things like that. The amount of

472
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: work you gotta put in, what are you pulling from

473
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: the amount of time it takes? What else could you

474
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: have been doing? What is suffering because you're that cation

475
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: of that. Right, These things we don't really consider while

476
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: we're on the ground. But being in that keen position,

477
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: not only um in your family's life, because that's why

478
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm focused at, but in the entertainment industry, that's a

479
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: weight associated with that that a lot of men came bear.

480
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: And so he goes on on here to speak about

481
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: some of those things. I found this encounter a little

482
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: interesting with him in DJ Envy will get to it

483
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: a little bit in this clip, but it was in

484
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: regards to some money. For me, it was an interesting interaction.

485
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: Will give some game about it. Let's take a look

486
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: at a little bit of this interview opportunity. Think a body,

487
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: you guys, got an opportunity on here. So if I

488
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: paid somebody fifteen grand for three four hours or five

489
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: whatever it was, right, If I came up here and

490
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: hosts on this show with you, how much would you

491
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 1: pay them the host on the show? Yeah, I mean

492
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: co host that on here, don't anybody? Yeah, I mean

493
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: if they're coming into just a couple of days. Okay,

494
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: So somebody could come here for a couple of days

495
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: and make no money, but I could give somebody fifteen

496
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: thousand for a couple of hours, and now I got

497
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: to go through this that I gave him my opportunity

498
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: that think about it, Everything that I try to give

499
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: people opportunities for it come back to bite me. And

500
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying why I think the devil is busy? You

501
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: know why the devil busy? Because we're doing bigger things now.

502
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: It's not I'm not in a music business. I love

503
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: my people. I'm like thinking about it, cher Man, everything

504
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: that I hadn't done, Why I didn't go viral like

505
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: I'm talking about pop. I've been in the community over

506
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: twenty four years. I'm gonna your son going to an HBCU. Yeah,

507
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: better than stuff. I'm gonna show your something. It don't

508
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: matter how many times I don't fail. I get back up.

509
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: And I think people don't like that because they want

510
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: me to stay where I used to be at. I'm not.

511
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm not a quitter. I get up and work hard,

512
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: do what I gotta do, and that's why I gotta

513
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: keep blessing. You think all of this is just some miscommunication, Yes,

514
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: I really do. And for people that don't know, let's

515
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: let's stay master ps here. Last week Just Hilarious was

516
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: co hosting with us, and it was a story about

517
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: master P and Fatreal Fatal. So you know, Jess claimed that,

518
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, during taping off, I got the hook up too.

519
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: She got a front end of a check and never

520
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: received the back end. And she stated that, so what

521
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: was the communication? And Masterpiece said, you know, I don't

522
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: think miscommunication. Master He said, I don't pay people. It's

523
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: a production company. It's my movie. But it's yeah, but

524
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: why is we talking about that. Let's be honest. I

525
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: gave you opportunity. Why is we talking about that to

526
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: bring I'm not even in the music business no more.

527
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm not in the entertainment. But that's what I'm saying.

528
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: So you take that and turn it into clicks. And

529
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 1: even when she read it, I wasn't addressing now when

530
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: I said people hide behind these computers and blood, that

531
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: wasn't That wasn't about her. That's what I'm telling y'all.

532
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: It's all the miscommunication. What she read was not about her.

533
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. Let's change this man, Let's

534
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: change our thoughts and our patterns to say how can

535
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: we help each other. I'm doing something bigger man, I'm

536
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: I used to be in the streets. I changed my life.

537
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: My life was about building Guard's kingdom. Now I'm about

538
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: building this guard kingdom. And I know the Devil gonna

539
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: don't like that, like okay, gonna throw my own people.

540
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: That's why I say this us against us. We have

541
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: to change that. But we got to stop allowing all

542
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: these bloggers and gossips to start putting stuff out there

543
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: and making the news. I'm just saying, even if she

544
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: said that, nobody checked it verified, but that was news

545
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: the same thing what you did. And when you say

546
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: that that you hit the news to go viral for

547
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: what I mean. IRV got it. Yeah. All the reason

548
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: I said that because you know, during that time, I

549
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: was broke and and that money meant everything to me.

550
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: Now it doesn't bother me now, I don't need the

551
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: money from IRV and I speak to Erv all the time.

552
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: But it bowed me because during that time I was

553
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: an upcoming producer. That was my first beat soul and

554
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know the game. So IRV brought the beat.

555
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: I never got a back end. He put it in

556
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: a movie. I never got the money from it, but

557
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: that bought me because I'm like, damn, that money would

558
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: have helped. And that's but now I'm past it. You know,

559
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: I speak to her, but I speak to them what

560
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, No for that it triggered something to where

561
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: the world though that was a long time ago. It

562
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: was like this was yesterday. That's what I'm saying. Even

563
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: all the stuff that people talked about me, that was

564
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: a long time. I was twenty years ago. Yes see

565
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So as you see Masterpiece somewhat, in

566
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: my opinion, you know, tries to kind of check very

567
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: like why you even bring that up down there from

568
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: so long agoing In my opinion, that's the industry mindset.

569
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, I gave you opportunity to say, bro,

570
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: I can't take that to my family. Say Loon got

571
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: a family. Loon got a family. These up and coming

572
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: people got families. Did money be they be counting on

573
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: that money? They've been untold a mama, man, I'm flying

574
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: out here to me, master Peter, do this movie. They're

575
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: paying us. Mama, I'm gonna give you eight thousand to

576
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: kitch you up on your bills. Get out there. They

577
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: only pay head for that. And then you got to

578
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: come back to the family. And this is why they

579
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: keep beating your dreams down because they don't understand the

580
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: infrastructure of the entertainment bid and it lives on uncertainty.

581
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: A lot of this has no structure. That's why when

582
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: you hit me hooping and hodling about podcasting, it ain't

583
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: just dad. It's even wrapped. There's no free a to

584
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: seeing wrap. There's no avenues to where we know exactly

585
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: who deserves a check, where and what and when that

586
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: all of this is it makes too much money to

587
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: be this nonstructure. In the same way the NBA has

588
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: found this tunnel for its reach, for its talent to

589
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: be maximized directly through college or walk up or the

590
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: d League or just a structure in our culture for

591
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: it to make billions of dollars, I think that we

592
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: gotta do a little bit better of a job to

593
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: leave residue on the role same way with the NFL.

594
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: We have to have reachable goals in which it allows

595
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: you into this portal into which we can pour from

596
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: to not only keep the industry operating at a high level,

597
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: but also to give opportunity to people who are actually

598
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: talented enough to deserve a shot, But we're dealing with

599
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: a nonstructured business, and so P tries to say, Yo,

600
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you should have brought that up. And

601
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: I agree with envy now that money mental line, when

602
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: you're the head of your family, when you're the only

603
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: person in your family that then broke out of that.

604
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: That's why I have to have barriers around my relationships

605
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: with people, because I know my relationships come with expectations.

606
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: Right when this dude here, Mama see him next to me,

607
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: and I'm in a position not me, And I know

608
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: it's only so long because we come from poverty. The

609
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: way she said, you've been with such a such them one.

610
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: They ain't ain't no money out for that. What's up

611
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: with the money? And this ain't nobody trying to use you.

612
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: These are genuine people that then took care of you

613
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: your whole life. You see. So now it doesn't cost

614
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: me money to fly out to California mess around with you.

615
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 1: That first day was really my travel. That second day

616
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: is my profit. That what I was taking home to

617
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: my mama, my baby mama, was my kids, my family.

618
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: That what I was taking home to them, And I

619
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: never got that second half for and Let's be clear

620
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: as no one's fault that your people are putting that

621
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: pressure on you. I'm just identifying why you could be

622
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: seeing some of the backlash. Some people are doing so

623
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: bad man, before they get their big break, that the

624
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: money is accounted for, before they even get it, like

625
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: they already. I gotta give you that to move you

626
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: from there. I gotta pay this man all this dad

627
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: on me and I gotta get this then and get

628
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: him out of jail. Pay my lawyer feed then folk

629
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: got it like they do not already account it for

630
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: their money before they even touch it. It's irresponsible, but

631
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: it's a reality, and I like to deal with reality,

632
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: not what I wish reality was. Also in this business, right,

633
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: there's a great area because there's a lot of services

634
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: being done that people don't know a paycheck is attached to.

635
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: And a lot of these big corporations are living in

636
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: that space. They are working people for free and for

637
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: pennies on the dollar because people don't really understand the

638
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: value attached to the service that they're providing. Foresaid company, right,

639
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: and so they wrap it around opportunity. That word even

640
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: with me. Now, now I give you opportunity, man, I'm

641
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: giving you this opportunity. This What is the money though,

642
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: because the first thing that caused for people to get

643
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: into the problems and beef, especially rappers, is say, Bro,

644
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: you've been with future them, you've been without un rapp.

645
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: I know you. They're paying you like I know you

646
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: got some money. You can't help nobody. He don't even

647
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: got the money yet. He don't even got the money yet.

648
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: He just with them. They ain't even paid him yet.

649
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: He ain't got none yet, but he making it look

650
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: good with them, taking pictures with their money when they

651
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: ain't looking. I'd be seeing it. He got five honey

652
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: k over when they ain't looking. But his people can't

653
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: get none from him because he ain't really got none.

654
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: But he's in the circle. That is Phase one is

655
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: to get in the circle. The second phase is which

656
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: one you're working. The first phase is to get into

657
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: these powerful circles and try to see if you can

658
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: even is the place for you to hustle? Is that

659
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: something I can add value? I can contribute to some

660
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: of these powerful situations to grab something out of it

661
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: and get some crumbs out for it to make me

662
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: a loaf. I told people a long time ago say

663
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: the game gave me, would I build me a house.

664
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: I ain't build me a little house. I build me

665
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: a mansion with what the game gave me the game

666
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: left me, Would I build me a mansion? Because I

667
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: come in, I'm one of them crafty guys. The way

668
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: I know how to add value to things. I see

669
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: what things can be better, I see what things can

670
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: be more efficient, more effective. Right, I'm one of those

671
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: guys that people, oh, they ain't doing that the like,

672
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: And I see all these guys subtle changes. You see

673
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: me take this up their podcast and make the experience

674
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: and I explain that's the live version of it up

675
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: there podcast. Right, said that to the side. You see

676
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: me do all these different things you see happen, You're

677
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: gonna start to see people implement. And I gotta know

678
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: how not to be emotionally attached to it, because if

679
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: you are the leader you gotta you're gonna be copied.

680
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: Now here's where I'm finding myself in a slippery slope.

681
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: It's because I'm leading these guys from behind them. This

682
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: is major game. Gotta be careful to see a lot

683
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: of times you leading people from behind them, specially in industry. Standards. Right,

684
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: you can be an independent label doing what the major

685
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: label can't do because they ain't effective, they ain't innovative enough,

686
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: nor do they got to reach. So you can exemplify

687
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: things that they can never encounter. You can rise above

688
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: problems that they see as more difficult than they can handle.

689
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: And I oftentimes speak on these things because I want

690
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: to always want the young dudes to know, or even

691
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: the young creators of the people just starting it's just

692
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: got that thing, just got that that it fact about them,

693
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: that young athlete, right, the young entrepreneur, you know, the

694
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: young writer, that young Bob or that young right. I

695
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 1: need them to understand that it ain't all ways gonna

696
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: be positioned that causes you to change the game, because

697
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 1: they're gonna be stealing from you long before they start

698
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: saluting you. It's just a part of the game. Particularly

699
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: in entertainment. They're gonna start stealing from you long before

700
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: they start saluting you. So you're gonna see your narratives

701
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: pop up. I hear people regurgitating Charleston White. Some people

702
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: sit on podcasts and regurgitate Twitter stuff and just regurgitate

703
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: other points. People may not notice, but I would feel

704
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: like a fraud doing that, but that's not me, so

705
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: I can't judge it. But there's a trick to what

706
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: they're doing. So they utilize your foreman in the marketplace

707
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: prior to you, so when people do discover you, they

708
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: think that you're the second person doing it. They have

709
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: a weird obsession with this. A lot of these men

710
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: are battling with their own egos. And we're gonna get

711
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: back to the masterpide thing. But I just think I

712
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: want to spend some time on this industry that we

713
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: call entertainment getting money with some of these ain't enough.

714
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: Shotting the mount ain't enough, Saluting them ain't enough. I'll

715
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: be wondering what they want. You can get ten million

716
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: with these, It ain't enough. They won't mote, they won't

717
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: every time you mentioned it, shot us out, Salute us

718
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: every single time you talk about it. Well, want you

719
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: to have no room for nobody else. Salute us on

720
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: every get out or you hating. But I want to

721
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: be clear before we get back to this, and I

722
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 1: want to get back to the show. Lead us, don't follow,

723
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: And most of this content game is playing follow the leader.

724
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: They're gonna steal from you way before they salute you.

725
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm going through that phase right now. They all stealing

726
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: from me. They're still in game, they're still inform man,

727
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: they're stealing. It's little things, right, they may not mean

728
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: nothing to y'all, but it's technique. It's formula. It's like

729
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: if you and jiu jitsu and you're an MMA guy

730
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: and you and you got this little technique that get

731
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: the knockout, right, and they're trying to watch game tape

732
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: to figure it out before you can get the Championship

733
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: Belt title match. And that's where it really counts. See,

734
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: they try to salute you all while stealing game from you.

735
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: Keep your eyes open in this industry. So they salute you,

736
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: get close enough to steal some game and then go

737
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: try to execute the game on the other side of

738
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: the world, right, And what people don't know, and so

739
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: it's a dangerous game. And for me, I know how

740
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: much money is attest to this conversation, to this ip,

741
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: to this right here, what I'm doing, this money involved

742
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: in this that I have identified, I'm not dealing with

743
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: my imagination. I'm one hundred percent sure of this, right,

744
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: and so I handle it that way, and you're gonna

745
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: always see me try to navigate these waters from a

746
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: business perspective. Let's listen to a little bit more this

747
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: massive p interview. Y'all know I'll go off on a tangent.

748
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: Let's get back. Well, So I don't don't. I don't

749
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: measure it well about what you have. I measure about

750
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: what you get. And so I want our culture now,

751
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: people to understand that why is we destroying each other? Now?

752
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, people, I also look at

753
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: it like this, right when we talk about all your postive.

754
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: If you know, you always invited a pair, But if

755
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: somebody owes me money, whether it's twenty years or ten years,

756
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: and it's a misunderstanding, I feel a conversation should be happening,

757
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: not the fact that it's twenty years ago, it don't

758
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: matter for me. Thank God, I was blessed enough where

759
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter now. But I'm saying that was your situation.

760
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, we are in a production thing, right,

761
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: we don't pay for the right, That's what I'm saying.

762
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: So that's why I was asking, was there a misunderstanding

763
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: with an agent, the production company or man? It don't

764
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: matter because I think people take it out of contents

765
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: because of what's saying instead of looking at you know.

766
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: And I hope one day I could get with her

767
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: and say, because I'm really I really don't want to

768
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: be in the entertainment business. But again, I'm good. So

769
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: if my kids want to do it, they got to

770
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: do it on their own. I'm good. I want to.

771
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: I want to be in a product of business. To

772
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: be honest with you, because once you grow up and

773
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: we got to show this culture how to live again.

774
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: I believe the culture has hurt Pete. I believe that

775
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: Pete thanks the culture won't accept him saying I failed,

776
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: or I got it wrong, or I made a mishap,

777
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: or some money got from up under me. I an't

778
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: got it like I think he believes. The culture is

779
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: waiting for those words to come out. And I believe

780
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: that's a hard life because failure isn't final noise, it fatal.

781
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: So we don't gotta live there, you understand, I need to.

782
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: I want to start to relax more on the part

783
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: so I don't want to get too passionate. But every

784
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: time you hear Pete talk about this experience with music,

785
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: it's always like I'm ducking it. I'm hiding it. But

786
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: on the other side, it's like I can teach these

787
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: young boys how to get It's like you have to

788
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: understand that the messaging is starting to conflict one another. Right.

789
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: I would never hire you to help me in the

790
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: music business when you are consumer facing saying you hate

791
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: the music business. Get you some product, and if I

792
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: look at you based on your product, I need to

793
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: see a little bit more results before I bring the paper.

794
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. And so I think I

795
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: think he's living in that place. But more importantly, I

796
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: need Peter understand he's a legend. I need Peter understand

797
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: that everybody in the South who hustling good right now,

798
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: they got all this money, grew up on Pete. P

799
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: showed us that hustling from down here was possible, him

800
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: and baby them putting major game down from down through hell.

801
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: P has to understand he a legend and they can't

802
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: take from him what he's already done. But it feels like,

803
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: and from my perspective, I'm receiving it like he's hurt

804
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: from musing. It's almost like he feels like they're pulling

805
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: at him. They tanned at him. And again I always

806
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: point out that in the nineties and the early two thousands,

807
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: everybody was doing bad business for some reason, he wasn't

808
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,479
Speaker 1: able to make that. Those other laps around the track

809
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: that did it. Jay Z and all of those guys

810
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: made to come and make some of that business right.

811
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: And so his devoid of his name says, are much

812
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: louder than the people who have directly been involved with

813
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: some of the other icons and tycoons that go for

814
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: Baby Diddy jay Z. All of them have had run

815
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: ins with people, but being able to sustain business and

816
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: enough money to well a lot of that they made right,

817
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: A lot of that they came back through. We got

818
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: some more money with them. People, man, put a couple

819
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: of ms in your pocket or gay or distake in

820
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: this company, or you know, whatever the case may be.

821
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: Even Kanye d good being, you know, but ya got

822
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: his money a little bit later. But all of those

823
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 1: guys in the nineties and early two thousands were doing

824
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: a certain kind of business that may or may not

825
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: have been standard practice in that time. But it calls

826
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: for a lot of backlash. But it seems like master

827
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: Peace has affected him more than anyone. There is no

828
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: one that escaped the nineties and early two thousands in

829
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: regards to business that didn't have something on their name

830
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 1: that goes for Russell, all of them. We've just talked

831
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: about Nori his deal like all everybody in the nineties

832
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: early two thousands that was smart on jackets of all

833
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: the execs. So clearly there was a standard practice of

834
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: business happening in the industry. Right for some reason, Peace

835
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: screams of what his business practices have been Alloweder And

836
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: in my opinion, it's because of what I said. Everyone

837
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: else has been able to make a billion dollars or

838
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: more and being able to pay a lot of those

839
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: people to head that those bad things to say about them.

840
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: Let's listen to a little more. And that's what I

841
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: want to do. I mean, they got you know, even

842
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm just telling y'all comedians, this throwing the people that's

843
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: gonna do what you gotta do for the community and

844
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: the culture. So with us going, who gonna help question

845
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: right before we went to break Yeah, because you know,

846
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: everybody gets in front of these microphones and they volunteered

847
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: information like I never knew you managed, you know. So

848
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: I want to I want to I want to tell

849
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: you guys about that situation. So I had an opportunity

850
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: to manage Meek Mills. So first I don't know if

851
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: you know Charlie Mack that was, and so Charlie Mac

852
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: had him and then you know he Meek wanted to

853
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: go a different direction, but Charlie mc had him under contract.

854
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: James called Charlie Mack. Then I called Charlie Mac. I said, man,

855
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: this guy is a star, let him go. Do you

856
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: know Charlie McK was with Will Smith? And so what

857
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: happened was it's my attorney Rick, But I want to

858
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: clear that up to where I had an opportunity. Me

859
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: and James signed to management contract. But I knew that

860
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: Meek was gonna be a boss at the beginning. He

861
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: had that song called I'm a Boss and he just

862
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: was a talented guy. But my attorney Rick did all

863
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: the stuff for me and me and James trying to

864
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: management contract. And then I ended up moving on because

865
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: I thought that Mike should be on his own, which

866
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, he's a boss to night all work out.

867
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: But when I talked about that, it was talking about

868
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: fail you how you could feel and move all right,

869
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: let me speak on this because I think I need

870
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: to clarify this. The narrative started at a conversation I

871
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: had with Master P at the REPS Next summit. So

872
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: let me get y'all some context of the conversation. It's

873
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: me money Bag Yo, Master Pe for they Romeo, James,

874
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: and Maryland, right, and so we're having this panel. I'm

875
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: hosting the panel, and we're talking about, you know, entrepreneurship

876
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: and how to build black wealth and dealing with products

877
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: and so money Bag Yo is next to me, and

878
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm telling Bag like, you know, it's so important that

879
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: we get some money in Bag telling me, you know

880
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: I'm missing with Voss. You know, I got this. I'm

881
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: doing this, so Bag let me No, I'm transitioning. I'm

882
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: already seeing it. Then I'm telling Romeo, look, we're paying

883
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: attention where we're from, bro, you know. So we get

884
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: the game from the QCs, from the Yo Goddess and

885
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: things like that. So I'm putting this game down and

886
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: P says like, Yo, these young boys think they're gonna

887
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: always get it. They don't understand. And so I explained

888
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: to Pete, I'm like, Yo, Pe, you gotta help dudes

889
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: like Moneybag Yo, understand why they need not go get

890
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand from this club and come over here

891
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: and mess with this product launching party. They don't understand

892
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: the language. I even explain the money bag, Yo. I'm like, look,

893
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: I know you come out in the fifty thousand people

894
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: right Here's fifty people in the building. But this right

895
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: here represents the whole United States in regards to community

896
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: corner stores. Every person in here operates a region of

897
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: the country in regards to corner stores, and they put

898
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: product there. So these are some of the most important

899
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: people you can deal with in regards to the product

900
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: that makes you more money. This is mailbox money. So

901
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bridge those gaps. I'm telling pe that

902
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: you gonna have to explain to somebody like a little

903
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: baby or money bag. Yo. To yo, stop digging right

904
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: there where you didn't found gold and come over here.

905
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: Why I'm telling you it might be gold because failure

906
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: is an option when you come over here. But it's

907
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: important to come over here. Why are you piping hot?

908
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: There's a you gotta bridge that gap. And so he

909
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: went ahead to go into man. I used to manage

910
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: meek mill, and I walked away So Meek Mill got

911
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: there and I'm like, yo, he used to manage you.

912
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: Meek said, Yo, that's Kelp, and he told me the

913
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: whole story, said I met with Pe one time I

914
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: went into a studio. There was a situation where I'm like, yo,

915
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: this studio real lane. And he told James because he

916
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: was there on behalf of James Lindsay the owner raps

917
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: next the founder of rap Snacks, right, so he was

918
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: there on behalf of James, and so he telling Jane like, yo,

919
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: get me out here. James got him right out of that,

920
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: and that was over. So I don't know where the

921
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: managed thing came from. And that's how the meek Mill's

922
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: mouth words from meek Mill to Loom. So I'm telling

923
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: you that. So now I'm now, as I'm sitting over

924
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: there with Meek, I'm like, damn, he just said that.

925
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: So Meek saying that ain't true. And so when he

926
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: posted it, I talked to me Meek said, mouthing a

927
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: post about this man, he keep running with the narrative.

928
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: So Meek just like Cap and meet being respectful because

929
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: pa Og we're gonna deal with p l the Og

930
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: in the game. We respect and love Pete. Don't never

931
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: get my commentary like we don't love Pete. We're riding

932
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: for Pee in the south. He hadn't done what a

933
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: lot of us grew up to dog the soundtrack to

934
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: our hustling. So this is never this. We just want

935
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: Peter understand it's okay. It's a eight if things win

936
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: left and you need some help from us over here.

937
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: But let us utilize that information that you got in

938
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: a different way than I'm big dog, listen to me

939
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: or else. I think it's just coming off like that

940
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: and it ain't being received. But that's the reason Meek posted.

941
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: We had just talked. He like, I'm posting by this

942
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: now he posted, and so now you hear Pete like,

943
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: all right, let me clarify that I had an opportunity

944
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: to do it. But again, words are important. Did you

945
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: misspeak with that? Are you misrepresenting? And that's be the problem.

946
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: This is where the confusion comes in for people when

947
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: they deal with some of the moguls out of the game,

948
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: like y'all misspeaking, of y'all misrepresenting, see, because you could

949
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: be misrepresenting your position in some of these epic situations.

950
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: To keep your culture equity up where you can for

951
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: that's a bag. And this is what I'm saying, even

952
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: if it's not that, you gotta understand how we can

953
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: be viewed that way. You see what I'm saying. It's

954
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: almost like, look, some people all go to the rap

955
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: snack thing, like, yo, do you own You see people

956
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: are starting to sniff it out your own wraps next.

957
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: Now we kind of started it to get so it's like, damn,

958
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: but we thought you own that. So I thought you

959
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: own that. Damn. I thought you own that. Damn. I

960
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: thought you own And so when people are having it,

961
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: I thought you own that, and he keep popping up, Man,

962
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: I thought that was you ain't have enough. Damn. It's

963
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: like damn, so damn. And so you got to know

964
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: that some of this is coming from that. But that's

965
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: the reason he responded to the meek meal thing. And

966
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to clarify that. Let's move on. Before we

967
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: move on, let me give a little bit more on

968
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: this corner conversation as it pertains to Michael B. Jordan

969
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: or just anybody. I want y'all to understand that this

970
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: is a very like low hanging fruit. This is a

971
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: cheap move for other guys to try to move out

972
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: of corny. Right, the quickest way for people to identify

973
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: you as not corny is you identify somebody as corny.

974
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: It's like taking the eyes off of you. No, he's

975
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: really corny, you know. And somewhere along the lines, corny

976
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: people have started to fight each other about what corny is. Like,

977
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: I'm cool with being corny. The corny people, you see

978
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, again, everything ain't for everybody. The

979
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: Bendley comes too much if you ask the wrong person.

980
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: The bells and whistles don't matter. The exclusivity, it don't

981
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: matter in the row legs or the ap or the

982
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: paddock for leap or the Richard Miley right, the exclusivity,

983
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: the value in that ain't seen by people who don't

984
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: see the value in that. And so explaining these things

985
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: are rough. But this corny conversation is just it's a

986
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: lot going on. But I am identifying other men trying

987
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: to break out of the corny box by saying other

988
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: people a corny or saying other people can't dress and

989
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: things like this, like, yo, your pass is your pass.

990
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: You can't get that off you. But I again, wholeheartedly

991
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: pushed back on the Nick Cannon comparison to Michael B.

992
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: Jordan because Nick Cannon, as far as I can remember,

993
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: never really did nothing or came out and did any

994
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: you know, in the midst of people trying to identify

995
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: him as corny. It's like he just stayed down. He know,

996
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm a sniper. You know, they say what they want

997
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: to say. I'm effective around here, and those of you

998
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: that's competing with me, you know what kind of pressure

999
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm putting down, and you know how the women reacting

1000
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: to me. So whatever narrative they got going on. See,

1001
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: you gotta have a solid reality to whether metaverse don't

1002
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: affect your universe, because I'm telling you, if your universe

1003
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: is shaky, if you got the wrong people around you,

1004
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: or you got people that believe what they're told and

1005
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: not what they see and dealing with if you got

1006
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: weak people around you, then the metaverse or affect the

1007
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: universe and you had to deal with what's going on

1008
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: the Internet. In reality, Nick Cannon was able to keep

1009
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: it trucking, and then now it just kind of went

1010
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: away as people grew up. It's like, nah, he ain't

1011
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: do was he just ain't doing all that other ship.

1012
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: But he was over putting game down, picking packs up.

1013
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: He's been getting money for a long time, blending in,

1014
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, and so we respect the stealth of it.

1015
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: You know, if you're a game related person, if you

1016
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: having game, you respect that. He moved through the game

1017
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: and stealth mold and he moved like somewhat of a sniper.

1018
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: But when I think about Michael B. Jordan, the people

1019
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: that's rapping on them old computer just start or they

1020
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: shooting ball on a milk craig, or they're playing football

1021
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: up the hill or whatever it might be at the

1022
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: beginning in stages, but they have identified the obstacles and

1023
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: so they're doing what's necessary. The people on the outside

1024
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: of laugh at you when you doing what's necessary because

1025
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: they haven't identified that this is necessary. So when he's

1026
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: having his head shots done at that young age, they

1027
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 1: forgot to mention that he was already on the show.

1028
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: They forgot to mention he was already working in the

1029
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: industry at that point. And so he's doing what's necessary.

1030
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: And there's lessons in that. There's information in that you

1031
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: can't let people laugh at you. You went a trick

1032
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: bag and trick you out of doing what's necessary. I

1033
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: had got to a point in my life where I

1034
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: look at somebody and if they laugh at what I

1035
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: do them, I write them off. I don't even consider

1036
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: their opinion moving forward because they must don't know the

1037
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: ingredients it take to get why I'm trying to go.

1038
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: But again, like I said earlier, I truly believe he

1039
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: was probably told that's the girl that said that, and

1040
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: they probably didn't say that's the girl that was on

1041
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: the podcast. Whatever was said, and he conflated the two

1042
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: points and spoke on the head shots and she did

1043
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: say that. So we played that earlier, but I wanted

1044
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: to just add a little bit more on that. Let

1045
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: me briefly speak to this NBA Young Boy versus Little

1046
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: Dirt again. We're back just speaking on all topics on

1047
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: this up that podcast. Seems to be some back and

1048
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: forth online happening. Djacademics came out and pointed out, yo,

1049
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm giving advice to NBA Young Boy not to respond,

1050
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: and then NBA Young Board responded, I really want to

1051
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: identify as well that nobody's doing the Academics podcast keep

1052
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: telling you he got to be careful. All these people

1053
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: that he claimed he got relationships with. Of course baby

1054
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do it, but you got dirt came out

1055
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He did mean that I

1056
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: work a game. He did nilk certain thing. Kodak the

1057
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: only person doesn't really touched down with him, but right

1058
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: at the Kodak he went and done. Jack boy, your

1059
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: conversations ain't even that important to be able to move

1060
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: around like that. But I'm just giving dude some business advice.

1061
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: But when you look at it, you got Yatty just dropped.

1062
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: He didn't go over there, you got ooze it. Nobody's

1063
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: went over there. And so now he's resulting to using

1064
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: Charleston White. He's gonna try to use Charleston White and

1065
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: do some comedy shows or something and kind of steal

1066
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: his audience, because I truly believe it is hard. He

1067
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: does not believe that his audience will come see him, right,

1068
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: And I know that I know he's watching this, and

1069
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: that hits hard, right, and then probably hits him in

1070
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: the gut to really understand, like I don't know, maybe not,

1071
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: And that's the leap of faith dudes gotta take, you know,

1072
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: but clearly you see him struggling over there, and if

1073
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't hurry and build his own universe, I'm not

1074
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: sure how long that format he got is gonna be effective.

1075
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: As soon as social media changes in Instagram becomes non important,

1076
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: these guys have real problems. All these guys who have

1077
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: built their fan base off of their following on Instagram

1078
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: because they were their early reporting certain kind of news

1079
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: in a certain kind of way and kind of got

1080
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: their culture equity. All of them have brand names at

1081
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: this point, right, so everybody's gonna follow them to a

1082
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: certain extent. But when social media changes again, I truly

1083
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: believe there will be an issue with a lot of

1084
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: these platforms and brands that we've sold built last decade

1085
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: on the backs of like Instagram. A lot of these

1086
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: people have focused so much on Instagram that their YouTube

1087
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: presents have left a lot of these folks are doing

1088
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: things that they're getting the less amount of money on

1089
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: and giving it the most effort. Some of these podcasts,

1090
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: in my opinion, for the reach that these people have

1091
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: a very low quality. And I'm in the space, so

1092
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: I think I had a right to be speaking on it.

1093
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: But that's how I feel about it. But it's interesting

1094
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: to watch. But again, Young Boy Dirk been some tweets

1095
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: going back and forth about album sales, and I think

1096
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: it's marketing. I think that they're positioning themselves in the

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00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: market to be able to sell albums and use some

1098
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: of each other's energy, you know. I think Young Boy

1099
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: was trying to go the other way and dirt pull

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00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: back out, you know, dirt back outside, you know. So

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00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll listen to the music and see what happened.

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00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: Let's speak about this. Alex Murdoch, I was intrigued by

1103
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: this story. Got from South Carolina. Lawyer, come from a

1104
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: long historic family in that business, and they kind of

1105
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: had a extreme amount of influence in that area. This

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00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: guy was facing a life sentence because of the death

1107
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: of his wife and his son on his property. He

1108
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: had told a lot of lies. It's been a lot

1109
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: of up and downs about what has been said versus

1110
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: what has been done, and he found himself in the

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00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: middle of that. He did go and testify for me.

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Speaker 1: These cases are always interesting because number one, you get

1113
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: to see the judicial system and how they react in

1114
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: real time to some of these things. And number two,

1115
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: you get to see some of these people go up

1116
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 1: there with these weird plans in the head nobody. Let's

1117
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: be clear, nobody's getting up on that stand without a plan.

1118
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: So when you get up there and how he's talking

1119
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: in certain things he's saying, I look into the mindset

1120
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: of the guy and said, oh, he's told himself I

1121
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: have to admit certain things and just come off as

1122
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: telling the truth now all of a sudden, and I

1123
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: think that was a mistake. The fast forward. He was

1124
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: sentenced the other day and he received a life sentence.

1125
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Speaker 1: But I do want to recap some of what has

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00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: happened and got us here, and then we'll give a

1127
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: little bit of information on our perspective in commentary of

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00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: what we feel about mister Alex Murdof and the devastating

1129
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: behavior did he has caused on his family amongst other people.

1130
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at this clue wearing a tan

1131
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: prison jumpsuit. Alex Murdoch was sentenced to life in prison

1132
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: today the morning after the jury found him guilty of

1133
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: murdering his wife and son, and took jurs less than

1134
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: three hours to hand down their conviction. But what was

1135
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: it like inside the jury? Were less trent as that

1136
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: and much more From South Carolina. It's Alex Murdoch as

1137
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: you've never seen him before, in a prison jumpsuit and

1138
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: flip flops and shackles. And he went down swinging, still

1139
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: insisting he's innocent of the crime that's shocked America. I'm innocent.

1140
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,479
Speaker 1: I would never hurt my wife, Maggie, and I would

1141
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: never hurt my son. Papa Murdoch's son Buster and brother

1142
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: John Marvin were in court as Judge Clifton Newman blasted

1143
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: the disgraced attorney. You've engaged in such a duplicitous conduct.

1144
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: Uh here in the courtroom, here on the witness stand.

1145
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: And I know you have to see Paul and Maggott

1146
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: during the nighttimes when you're attempting to go to sleep.

1147
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: These are some of the courtroom moments we're gonna take

1148
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: a look at again. This was a crazy courtroom case.

1149
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: Right now they're playing the namro on one call. For

1150
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: those of you listening, y'all can imagine what I experienced.

1151
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: It had not been cleaned up. I saw blood, I

1152
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: saw brains, I saw pieces of skull. Before we take

1153
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: a look at this next piece, I'm gonna tell you

1154
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: what I initially thought happened, and This is before a

1155
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: lot of the trial started to play out. I looked

1156
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: at this dude and I said, Oh, he'd been running game.

1157
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: He'd been somebody that's running around, you know, pulling trigger

1158
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: is he's been playing con man, you know what I'm saying.

1159
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: He'd been promising people things, getting the people been coming

1160
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: up dead. One of the butlers, the people that worked

1161
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: for him, came up dead, allegedly slipped and hit their

1162
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: head and died. And he told the family that he

1163
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: will be able to get a settlement, and I think

1164
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: it was like two or three million dollars, and he

1165
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: gave them nothing out of the money and kept it.

1166
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: And he was just running around getting over on people. Again.

1167
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: They had an extreme influence in the small city that

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01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: they were from. And I want people to always remember

1169
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: that power absolutely is always abused. And so when you

1170
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: come from a family of power, you put this cloak

1171
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: around yourself. And I even deal with it when people

1172
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: are highly connected in the industry, maybe they know the

1173
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: person at the top of the food chain or maybe

1174
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: somebody that you work for. It just these things are

1175
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: always showing themselves. You know. People have a strange encounter

1176
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: with power that behavior changes and so they started to

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01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: do things. Call the police and it will be covered up.

1178
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: Whether that's a murder, whether that's an assault or whatever

1179
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: may happen on his little ranch or compound or whatever

1180
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: that is, these things would always be covered up. And

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01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: by me understanding that, yo, he running around tricking people,

1182
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: and I come from well, the man with this running

1183
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: tricks is a powerful man until you run to the

1184
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: man that ain't going for no tricks to be run

1185
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: on him. And so my initial feeling, my initial thought

1186
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: was he was high. So he lied. I said, damn,

1187
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: he been triggering all these people out of millions of dollars.

1188
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: Somebody that came up on the compound and killed his family,

1189
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: the old My first thought, I said, damn, somebody that

1190
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: crept up on the compound, smoked his son and smoked

1191
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: his wife to send the mess Hey come with that money, man,

1192
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: you didn't got us out of a lot of money,

1193
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: and we don't sleep well lay night about that. That's

1194
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: what I thought. But then the video come out with

1195
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: him on the scene, and if I was here, I

1196
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: would ignore. I would have denied that. They would have

1197
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: had to try to they would have had to show

1198
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: me what technology they got because I would have kept it.

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01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: That ain't my voice. Who is it? I don't know

1200
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: who it is, other people saying that's you, It ain't me.

1201
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: But when he said it was him, I think that

1202
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: put the nail in it. On top of this weird

1203
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: game he's playing with the testifying about trying to give

1204
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: credence to his conversation without making him clock out on

1205
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: his credibility. You know, I can tell that's the game

1206
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: he playing. But let's listen to this clip and look

1207
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: at this clip if you're on Patreon, and then we'll

1208
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: give some game about it. How long did he stay

1209
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: in the room of y'all? Say y'all? For the record,

1210
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 1: you're in the slip I follow James twenty minutes where

1211
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: Alec Murdock was and wasn't the night Maggie and Paul

1212
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: Murdoch were murdered. It's becoming more clear as more witnesses

1213
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: take the stand. There's a detailed timeline that's really coming together,

1214
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: and we've compiled it for you in the double murder

1215
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: trial of Alec Murdoch. June seventh, twenty twenty one is

1216
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: the day that we've heard from the testimony that Alec

1217
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: Murdoch was confronted at his law firm about missing money.

1218
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: It was seven hundred and ninety two thousand dollars and

1219
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: missing fees. You see that. So that's my first thought is, Oh,

1220
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: it's people trekking down their money. Like she said, somebody

1221
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: just pulled up about eight hundred thousand. Then there's two

1222
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: mets you're missing over here. Then there's a couple hundred

1223
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: thousand over here. You know, trick somebody out of us.

1224
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking somebody that came up on your property

1225
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: and smoked your wife and your son to send the message.

1226
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: You how oxycotton? So you run around, I mean you

1227
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: have oxycodon. So the police coming, you kind of just

1228
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: bugging out, n and you know it's because of you,

1229
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: But you didn't do it. This is what I initially

1230
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: thought until he started basically saying that I was up

1231
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: there and I don't know, it wasn't me, And it's like, yo,

1232
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: how was you there and you didn't hear it and

1233
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't you. Like you painted yourself in this weird

1234
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: place to where if you were telling the truth, and

1235
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: then we got to deal with what you said. That's

1236
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: why I'm trying to tell people even in Tia and bussy.

1237
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: We'll get back to this. But the tim busy thing. Yo,

1238
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: dudes are using your words against you and that's where

1239
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: it gets slippery. Just like with him, we're using your

1240
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: words against you. But somebody pop up, yo, man, what

1241
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: about eight hundred thousand and that starts this whole thing.

1242
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: And he was kicked out of the law firm that

1243
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: his family had built because he was still in money.

1244
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: Let's pay attention. Prosecutors say Murdoch murdered his wife and

1245
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: son to buy time so his financial misdeeds would not

1246
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: be discovered. We now have additional information about the timeline

1247
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: that night, based on cell phone records, videos, and data

1248
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: from Alex Murdoch's suv Let's look first at that Snapchat

1249
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: video taken by Paul Murdoch that showed Alec Murdoch standing

1250
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: don't sleep on it. Data from the issue v Ali's

1251
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: New issuev's given data. Pay attention, You're a tree. The

1252
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: testimony we've heard so far revealed that that video was

1253
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: actually recorded at seven thirty eight pm, then uploaded to

1254
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: Snapchat at seven thirty nine, but published sixteen minutes later

1255
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: at seven fifty six PM. In that video, Alec Murdoch

1256
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: is wearing what looks like brown loafers, a blue shirt

1257
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: and khaki pants. Then, at eight forty four pm, Paul

1258
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: Murdoch records a fifty second video of his friend Rogan

1259
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: Gibson's dog Cash down at the kennels. Take a look,

1260
01:07:49,720 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: get it get that quick, Cash, heyway ship first, Okay,

1261
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 1: he got burdons now bla black Oh, ba's a guinea.

1262
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: There's a chickens quick. Four witnesses have now testified that

1263
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: Alec Murdoch, Paul Murdoch, and Maggie Murdock's voices were all

1264
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: on that video of Cash the dog at the kennels

1265
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: that night. Despite Alec Murdoch telling people he hadn't been

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01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: down to the kennels. Did he say whether or not

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01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: he had gone down to the kennels with Maggie and

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01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: Paul before he left to go to Almida after nine pm?

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01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: That came up in one of the conversations, and he's

1270
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: specifically said that he did not. Sadly, Paul never sent

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01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: that video to Rogan Gibson. The last time Paul ever

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01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: reads a text on his phone is at eight forty

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01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: eight and fifty nine seconds Maggie read a group text

1274
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: from John Marvin twenty two seconds earlier at eight forty

1275
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: nine and twenty seven seconds. Then Maggie and Paul's phones lock.

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01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 1: Phone records show Maggie missed a call from Alec at

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01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: nine oh four and twenty three seconds, then a second

1278
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: miss call nearly two minutes later at nine oh six.

1279
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: Records from Alex Suv show he started the vehicle at

1280
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: nine oh six and forty nine seconds and moved it

1281
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: out of park one second later. At nine o eight,

1282
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: ALEX records show he sent a text to Maggie that

1283
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: said going to check on m be right back, that's

1284
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: his mom. Maggie never read that text. At nine twenty

1285
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: two and forty five seconds, Alex Suv goes into park,

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01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: presumably when he arrives at his mother's home. Caregiver Shelley

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01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: Smith said Murdoch was wearing a T shirt, shorts, and

1288
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: cloth Sperry type shoes when she saw him that night.

1289
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: Listen to what she said about that visit. How long

1290
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: did he stay in the room with y'all? Say, y'all

1291
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: the record you have miss leave. I'll follow down about

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01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: pickteen to twenty minutes twenty minutes. Now, let's listen to

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01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: what Shelley Smith said Alec Murdoch told her at his

1294
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: father's funeral. Did Alex Murthall ask you to tell somebody

1295
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 1: how long he'd been there? He says, someone asks you

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01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: having him thirty to forty means that's what he said.

1297
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: Miss Shelley pretty much got that time right for the visit.

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01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: According to the suv records, twenty one minutes after the

1299
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: car goes into park status, the suv leaves park at

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01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: nine forty three and five seconds and goes into park

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01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: and back out of park. Cell phone records show at

1302
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: nine forty five and thirty two seconds Maggie Murdoch's phone

1303
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: missed a call from Alec and a text nearly two

1304
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: minutes later that said call me babe. At ten pm,

1305
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 1: alex suv goes in and out of park several times.

1306
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: Maggie misses a call from him. At ten oh three,

1307
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: the car goes in and out of park several more times,

1308
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: as Alec Murdock calls nine one one one and then

1309
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,879
Speaker 1: nine one one at ten o six. The car appears

1310
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: to be in park during that nine one one call.

1311
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: Another interesting note Alec Murdoch was wearing Jim shoes when

1312
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: deputies arrived that night, not those cloths Sperrys that Miss

1313
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: Shelley Smith said he had on when he visited his

1314
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: mother's home. I also think there's something to be said

1315
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: about people that play con me right. It's like they

1316
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 1: run their game into their game mate just don't work normal.

1317
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: They run it our way in the ground. And two

1318
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: is to a point where they're just wide open, where

1319
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: it just look obvious like you are running game, and

1320
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: they still trying to execute it. They still trying to

1321
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: put the game down. And it's like, bro, you you

1322
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: I don't think you get it. You're looking strange at

1323
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: this point. It ain't it ain't. It ain't given what

1324
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: it supposed to be given. But I believe he was

1325
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: trying to run that same game on the jury um

1326
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: and got itself home. The funny thing about this and

1327
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: when I get the network up and going, oh Jay,

1328
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come hire you, and we're only gonna let

1329
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: you talk about murder mysteries, right, and so um, I

1330
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: got a job for oj Simpson. Let's go ahead and

1331
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 1: put that out there right now. Have him contact me, UM.

1332
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: I want him to be in control of a murder

1333
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: Mystery UM segment M on the network. So I'm very

1334
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: interested in getting that deal done. I think he got

1335
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: to bring it in something though. Will will definitely try

1336
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: to help him with that. But Oja talked about UM

1337
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: this particular situation, and I think it's important because he

1338
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: has a lot of information on these court cases because

1339
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: he went through it himself. I think his images blemished

1340
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: in a way where you know, we don't know how

1341
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: effective he'll be in the market place, but we'll take

1342
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: a chance on him. Let's take a look at what

1343
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: old Ja said about this guy. Other people asking me

1344
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: what I think about this Alex Murdock trial. I don't

1345
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: know why they think I'm an expert all that, but

1346
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: I gotta admit when he took the stand a guy

1347
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: who was an habitual liar. I did watch when the

1348
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: trial first started. I watched him take the stand, and

1349
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: I thought it would probably a mistake because the guy

1350
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,560
Speaker 1: is an admitted liar, and it's hard for me to

1351
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: think he can be on the stand five six, seven,

1352
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: eight days without lying. Of question is what did he

1353
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: lie about? But lying and still in money. It's a

1354
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: little different than murder. I realized and watching him testify.

1355
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: What he was doing. He was just trying to relate

1356
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 1: to one or two of those is that he was

1357
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: a good old boy. He was one of them, and

1358
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he didn't succeed in doing that. I

1359
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: am not qualified to really say if the guy did

1360
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: it or he didn't do it. You know, if a

1361
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 1: juror missed an hour of testimony, they no longer qualified.

1362
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: I've missed days that I haven't watched this, But for

1363
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,560
Speaker 1: what I've seen, do I think it's more likely that

1364
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: he did it, Yes, but more likely equals reasonable doubt.

1365
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: So from what I know, I would have to say

1366
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasonable doubt there. He's going to

1367
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: go to jail for all of thievery he did still

1368
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: and millions of dollars of people. I think he should

1369
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 1: be looked at more about the death of his housekeeper

1370
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: a few years ago, where he ended up with over

1371
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: four million dollars of the insurance money. I think they

1372
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 1: should take a hard look at that. But it wouldn't

1373
01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: surprise me in the least if this guy beat this case,

1374
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna go to jail. He's gonna go to jail

1375
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: for all the money he stole. I'm curious there because

1376
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: I got nine to thirty three years. Thirty three years

1377
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 1: because I caught some guys trying to sell my stolen

1378
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: property and I yelled at him. Even they didn't think

1379
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: I should go to jail, and the judge gave me

1380
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: just Jackie Glass gave me nine to thirty three years.

1381
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to see what this guy is gonna get.

1382
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: I was up there with guys who had rob casinos

1383
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: and rob banks two or three times, and they were

1384
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: they had half the time or third at the time

1385
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: that I got. So I'm always curious to see what

1386
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 1: kind of time these guys get for stilling millions of dollars.

1387
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: When I caught guys still in my stolen property, the

1388
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 1: state of California after I was convicted, rule it was

1389
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: my property and they gave it to me, so I

1390
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: have it now. So how do you go to jail

1391
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:01,480
Speaker 1: for catching guys who are trying to sell your stolen property. Well, nevertheless,

1392
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: I do think this guy more than likely did it,

1393
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 1: but once again more than likely to me, it's tannemental

1394
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 1: reasonable doubt it would work against him in a civil trial,

1395
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's gonna work against him

1396
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: in this criminal trial. Wouldn't surprise me in the least

1397
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: that he beats this. I'm just saying, take care, hey,

1398
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: OJ is great man. That dude just said. I think

1399
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 1: he more than likely done it, but more than likely

1400
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: means he didn't do it. Let's speak on the Job

1401
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: Moran situation. Job Moran has been in the news lately.

1402
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: We got two different situations we want to deal with.

1403
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to separate though, so we don't conflate

1404
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: the arguments. The first one we're gonna deal with is

1405
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: the seventeen year old boy that was at his home

1406
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: in which some altercation popped off in Memphis. Right, So

1407
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: we got these lists of altercations over here where a

1408
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: lot of stuff is alleged. No charges have been filed,

1409
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: but there's a lot happening over them. The second thing

1410
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna deal with is Job Morant allegedly flashing the

1411
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: gun on live and being suspended. And so I want

1412
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: to focus on the environment. And this is why I

1413
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: said what Shannon was speaking to was so important. This

1414
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: because the loudest things we hear in our life come

1415
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: from ourselves. And so if I hear you say certain things,

1416
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: maybe I react a certain way, not because it was

1417
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: a public but because you pierce something inside of me.

1418
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: Then now has me reacting to that in a way

1419
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: that's detrimental to the goal. It's my responsibility to employ

1420
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: my emotions. But at twenty three years old, how hard

1421
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: is that job? Right? So again, understanding all these things

1422
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: as an OG's why I was speaking on Shannon. But

1423
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 1: let's deal with the seventeen year old guy. What the

1424
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: alleged happened is that John Moran had a basketball game,

1425
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: a pickup game at his house. They're saying that the

1426
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 1: young guy hit John Moran in the face with the ball.

1427
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 1: John Moran reacted, the guy end up saying something about it.

1428
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: I like the house up and he had his family there.

1429
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: So you have that altercation. And again, if you pay attention,

1430
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: it's let you know that, bro, he's just he young.

1431
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: He lived his life. To even have strangers at your

1432
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: house doing a pit just that that's the young that's

1433
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: young guy's young time, and that's what we own. It's young.

1434
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm not really ever gonna

1435
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: be in that situation, but I'm trying to identify what

1436
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: attributes or what information we can get from it. I've

1437
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: heard some people come out of their commentary has leaned

1438
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: towards you gotta learn to be famous, learning to be

1439
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: powerful at twenty three. That is hard. You gotta make

1440
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: certain decisions that handcuff you to your goals. You can't

1441
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: be willy knittley when you're driving a Ferrari Lamborghini. You

1442
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: got to hold this stand, will pay attention to the

1443
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: role because this can get out of control and you

1444
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 1: can flip this a car. You understand me. It's a

1445
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: little different than walking or driving a school. To us,

1446
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 1: this is high power, this is fast moving. It's is

1447
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: powerful things that God has placed us in. And so

1448
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: if I had to give advice to a young athlete

1449
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: or anybody in that position, I would say, Yo, make

1450
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: sure you leave room for wisdom. Make sure you leave

1451
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: room to be able to gain wisdom, and leave room

1452
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: for somebody to be able to hip you. Navigate and

1453
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: come put some game. Yeah, some people you respect, you know,

1454
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: because navigating power will money influence, especially when you was

1455
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: counted out like Job. Think a lot of y'all forget Job.

1456
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: Wasn't one of them guys that they thought would make

1457
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: it there. So that puts a chip on your shoulder.

1458
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: And if I take that chip off, you don't see

1459
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: that same bounce. If you watch job play, you see

1460
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: a certain bouncing swag. It's like it's a certain swag

1461
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: and bounce that that come with the underdog that that

1462
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: he operates with. And so you can't get rid of

1463
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: the chill. But you gotta, we gotta learn how to

1464
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 1: employ our emotions. I do want to reiterate for the

1465
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: sake of conversation that again, no charges will file in

1466
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: this case and either one of these cases that they

1467
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: are bringing out in the public. But I do think

1468
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: that it's a cautionary tailor and there's things we can

1469
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: learn from. When God has put an extreme blessing on

1470
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: one of us, we must handcuff ourselves to the pathway

1471
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:36,440
Speaker 1: that protects the blessing. Under no circumstance do we devalue

1472
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: what it took for us to get where we are. Oftentimes,

1473
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: or what I see is that we get some money

1474
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,560
Speaker 1: and then thinks, sweet, we rid of don't forgot what

1475
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 1: it took to cut this on. I pray God never

1476
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: let me forget what it took for me to get

1477
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: this on, because the minute I forget what it took

1478
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: for me to get this turned on, I might fall

1479
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 1: victim to letting some bit put me in a trick

1480
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: bag to turn it off. And let me say this,

1481
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 1: because these young dudes watching me, you can't play gangster

1482
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: and million now. Matter of fact, let me cut some

1483
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: fat off of it because his kids watching me. You

1484
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: cannot play gangster and play media now, because playing gangster

1485
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: at the highest level is a low frequency and for

1486
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: you to sustain as a millionaire with a voice and

1487
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: a leader and the coach and the father to your kids,

1488
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 1: and a husband and your wife, and a man to

1489
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: your mother and the father to your kids, as a

1490
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: man to your woman, as a pillar in your community,

1491
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: as you sit there at the top, you can't even

1492
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: vibrate on that low level frequency. You can't became mixing matchtones.

1493
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: The bird and the aunt, can't make a deal play

1494
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: and gangster is a very low level frequency in my opinion,

1495
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: but he can be maximized in together when you needed

1496
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: for us revival. But on the highest level, playing gangster

1497
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: turn your power down. You gotta be careful and be

1498
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: cautious and be cognizant of things that turn your power down.

1499
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: Sea Guard gave us powers. We gotta make sure we

1500
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: keep things around us to keep our powers up, because

1501
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 1: we can incorporate things in our lives that turn our

1502
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: power down and down. It's too close to off, and

1503
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: we again know what it took to get it turned on,

1504
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: so we don't play them kind of games. This is

1505
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: why money handed down is often mishandled. It's because they

1506
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: don't have any respect for what it took to get

1507
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: in that position, so they moved a little frivolous with

1508
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: the money. They don't give it the same respect because

1509
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: they didn't have to go through what it took us

1510
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: to get there. They don't understand. They was carried, they

1511
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: didn't climb, so they don't have us on their hands.

1512
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 1: They don't know, and so I don't blame them, but

1513
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: I can't allow them to tear down everything it took

1514
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 1: for us to get it turned on. And even when

1515
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: you look at John Morenn and you look at the situation,

1516
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: it's like, I got to remember what it took to

1517
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: get home. Boddy Folk didn't even scout me. I don't

1518
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: win it jumped up on two hundred, got this dear

1519
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: Powwy that going on this. I'm locked it man, I'm man,

1520
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm killing and they didn't even scout me. And that's

1521
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: why I'll really be having an issue sometime with Skips say,

1522
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: well they beat I think it's the timber Wars, and

1523
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: he left like they won the super Bowl. It's like,

1524
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: now you really you telling me I can't celebrate. Dog.

1525
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,879
Speaker 1: I come from somebody that wasn't even scouted in this position.

1526
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: The whole game on the line. Man, I'm celebrating that win.

1527
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm celebrating that win. But they hate to see you smile.

1528
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: And they don't hate to see you smile. It's less

1529
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: about you home, it's more about them. But it was

1530
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: a non traditional route to get in this position. They

1531
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 1: telling me I can't celebrate. They tell him I can't

1532
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,799
Speaker 1: hang with my homies. They telling me so they basically

1533
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: at twenty three. So again, wrap your brain around them

1534
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: and see they'll put you in a trigger bag. Even

1535
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: on the Internet. I see some of the blogs like

1536
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 1: putting like fol K, Trey Moran and all of that,

1537
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: Like they playing into that. You know they're playing into that, right,

1538
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: and I think they believe because they turning that into

1539
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: content when this little dealing with a bendlet. This is

1540
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: a high price. This is a black dude that can

1541
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: be worth a lot of money, and it's important that

1542
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 1: we let them know that it is possible to crash

1543
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: the bent let. It's possible to crash the whill. Now,

1544
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: we just saw Kanye and what he done. He crashed

1545
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: his will, but we don't know what all happened with

1546
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: a little framework has everything his motor still, everything's still

1547
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 1: good and the cop but he crashed the whip. Sometimes

1548
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: you ain't dealing with the kind of cot they can

1549
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: deal with the kind of impact that you're gonna put

1550
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: on it that early in the game. And so we

1551
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta make sure won't go on the trick bag,

1552
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: and we gotta make sure we let our youngsters know

1553
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 1: that like going pro, ain't where it stop, you can

1554
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: crash the bendling. Now I remember sitting down on im

1555
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 1: afleet with Antoine Walker. First, I know the blow a

1556
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: hunted media to get in a bad situation at a

1557
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: bad time with some bad investments and look up and

1558
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:40,719
Speaker 1: gotta sell mama house. So I know what it feel

1559
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: like to feel like that this is what it is

1560
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:49,520
Speaker 1: always gonna feel like you gotta remember the handcuff yourself

1561
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: to the things that protect the blessing that God gave.

1562
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 1: And when I say Benley, I hope people are keeping

1563
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: up women, But I'm dealing with the quality of life. Right.

1564
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: It's like the Bndley is the highest level. Like all

1565
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,719
Speaker 1: of those kind of cause, the made back, the Bendley,

1566
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: the Ferrari, the Lambo, the bue. God is all of

1567
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: those calls are the top level. And that's what I

1568
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: mean in regards to quality of life. Sometimes you have

1569
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 1: been blessed to what then God has put you in

1570
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: a bentley in regards to your life. Now, driving the

1571
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: Bndley is a little different than driving the Mustang. Respect

1572
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: the Mustang, but this come with a little mole, And

1573
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 1: so the obstacles you encounter, you gotta get information from

1574
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: the people that were ahead of you. And I watch ya,

1575
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: and I watch everybody, because again I'm taking this stuff

1576
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: in the industry has a trick that it does as

1577
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: well where to deal with you as long as it

1578
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: has to deal with you. But they're holding them bro

1579
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: and in the minute that the market allows them not

1580
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,600
Speaker 1: to deal with you, there then sell the story on

1581
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: why they dealt with you and how hard it was,

1582
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: and the deep dark secrets are dealing with you, and

1583
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: they'll run a whole story on that. So they double dip.

1584
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: They can't lose. But you have to know that this industry,

1585
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: just because Nike is still answer your call and these

1586
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 1: people are, they'll do that until the market allows them

1587
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: not to have to do that. And so that's dealing

1588
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: with the case with that. That's my observation and commentary

1589
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: for that. I want to move forward and deal with

1590
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 1: John Moran going on live allegedly with a file them.

1591
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the video that went Vioul

1592
01:27:33,120 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 1: can I get ain't gonna I your money is mine?

1593
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 1: In The first thing I said when I saw that was, damn,

1594
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: dudes in the NBA can't have guns? What if you're

1595
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 1: in the state legally registered? Like what about all that?

1596
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 1: Then I got to think, and now it's an image

1597
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: thing that they're dealing with. Number One, let me give

1598
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: some advice to the brother Jack and it's coming from

1599
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 1: Big Loan. Right, You're in a very very very very

1600
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: unique situation, not that had even been given that opportunity,

1601
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: but created that opportunity. A lot of these people are

1602
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 1: never feeling you because they have always been carried and

1603
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: then they ain't never climbed, and so you had to

1604
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 1: climb now. And I also know that they get confused

1605
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 1: with your father playing college ball, that you grew up

1606
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: and you had it all and a lot of these

1607
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: people that have commentary and draw conclusions about your circumstances

1608
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: didn't come from where you come from. And it's hard

1609
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 1: to ignorm because they're on big platforms and they come

1610
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: with the circumstances. It come with the position you in,

1611
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: but you can't take it for granted. When you jump

1612
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: out on the court, you expect for it to be defenders.

1613
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 1: You expect when you go up before a dunk you

1614
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: might get fouled. You expect for someone at least to

1615
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: attempt to block it. You got to stay away from

1616
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 1: things that turn your power down. A lot of these

1617
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 1: things we indulge with it turn our power down. And

1618
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: we got to be extremely careful with what we allow

1619
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: to interfere with the vibration that God has put on us.

1620
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: Because going pro ain't the end of the journey. Signing

1621
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: the rap contract ain't the end of the journey. You

1622
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: got to set the generational wealth game down. I can't

1623
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 1: identify with being reward it on that level for the fruit,

1624
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: so your label. But then we got to see the fruit,

1625
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 1: so your leadership, your big dog. Now everybody watching, then

1626
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: they hold their breath. They're waiting on you to crash

1627
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: the will you will never let them, and you can't

1628
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: let them see that. And also, I'll hand this piece

1629
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: of advice to not only Job, but anyone that's on

1630
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: that role, that's on a journey where when you finally

1631
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: get the fruit so your label, he can he can

1632
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: pour in so fast and so much that he can

1633
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: blur your vision. I'll hand you this advice. Spend your

1634
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: time doing the things that got you where you are.

1635
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 1: A smart man will find a way to do what

1636
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 1: he loves. And I would tell Job and anyone else

1637
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 1: in that kind of circumstance that are even small man,

1638
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 1: I love what he does. So just find a way

1639
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: to love what you're doing. Sometimes the money make you

1640
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: fall out of love with this. I'm still who I am,

1641
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about when I really loved this thing

1642
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: right here, when nothing didn't matter but this thing right here.

1643
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm talm about this thing right here, and I pray

1644
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 1: God keep me balanced because it's easy to say, bo,

1645
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 1: I'm catching jicks and I'm on jets. Man. I mean,

1646
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: it's easy to get off track. But you gotta handcuff

1647
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 1: yourself to the things that protect the journey that God

1648
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 1: has placed you on. And at twenty three, I can

1649
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: imagine how hard it is. That's why my commentary don't

1650
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: never be like you loot it. It's like, yo, let's

1651
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 1: try to put some game next to it. He gonna

1652
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: find somebody out there that he resonated with me. He

1653
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: gonna say, let me listen to what they're saying. All

1654
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: the real ones really be tapping in with Let me

1655
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: hear what brought him tom about, and you put some

1656
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 1: game next to the bit. But of course you can't

1657
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,560
Speaker 1: flash your gun, right, so let me And also I

1658
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 1: want to build a little bit more on what I

1659
01:31:55,800 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 1: was saying, because having protection or having a gun isn't

1660
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: acceptable on that level, but it is on the level

1661
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 1: prior to that. Just right under that, just picture that

1662
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 1: at twenty three. Just think about this, and I think

1663
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 1: people don't never put these things in perspective. As an athlete,

1664
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: just three years ago, me having a gun protected me

1665
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: save my life. It don't matter if you think I

1666
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 1: sold dope or I'm a gangster. This happens around us people.

1667
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 1: Things happen period. So you gotta be careful because what

1668
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: used to protect you in harbor you neck can harm you.

1669
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 1: And if it can't harm you, it can turn your

1670
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: power down. So what happens is ain me and my

1671
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 1: old lady Wayne on good terms. That turned my power

1672
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 1: down a little bit. Hey, me and the home boards,

1673
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 1: they I get around them. We kind of get on

1674
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 1: some whoever wanted type thing. We get in the protective

1675
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 1: or we just get on some others that turned my

1676
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 1: power down. I gotta deal with de folks on all

1677
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 1: this in conjunction. You look up and you was operating

1678
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 1: at two hundred percent. Nay, you down the symney and

1679
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 1: the goal is the rate at two hundred as long

1680
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 1: as you can, because that's how you are the most effective.

1681
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: And so a scenario if you are someone from the

1682
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 1: inner city, having the gun protects you, having guys around

1683
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: you that's a little reckless. There's willing to go that

1684
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: ain't really tripping if it's a fighting nor standing that

1685
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: protects the power. When you grow up in the inner city,

1686
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 1: because there's some weird war happening in the inner city

1687
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: amongst one another. But if you continue to operate that way,

1688
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 1: that same behavior no longer protects the power. It turns

1689
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 1: the power down, because right now you got the power

1690
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 1: to do things you may not even know you can do.

1691
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: I try to explain to some of the famous guys

1692
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: I know, like, yo, y'all don't even know the power

1693
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 1: you got, And I'm not sure I know, but I

1694
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: know it's more than what we're exhibiting. As long as

1695
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: I know that maybe they can spark the man a change,

1696
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: or spark the man and want us to get a

1697
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: company and do this or that. You know, I'm interested

1698
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: in evolving and if you ain't thinking about you, Like

1699
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 1: even that time Antonio Brown had took its job, he

1700
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: did certain things on the field. I remember on the podcast.

1701
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: I came out and I'm like, yo, you don't forgot

1702
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 1: about your family. I know you're in your close circle

1703
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: they are good, but but you don't forgot about your

1704
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 1: untie and Diana. You still got a few folks you

1705
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 1: can help, You got a neighborhood. You come front like

1706
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 1: the opportunity that you still can have right now when

1707
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 1: this disrespect it's disrespect. It got to be dealt with

1708
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,719
Speaker 1: like disrespect. But there's a time and place. And also

1709
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: you now have more things than your wepping reel. Now

1710
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 1: you don't see when you're in the ghetto, it's like

1711
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 1: just starting the game. So you got a few things

1712
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: in your weaping reel. You got your gun, you know,

1713
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: you got your your knife, you got your fighting you know,

1714
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: you got your you know, police shooting car. But as

1715
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: you get powerful and more money, you got a lot

1716
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 1: more things than your wepping wheel that you can use,

1717
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, so you don't necessarily have to force meet

1718
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 1: force with everything. The thinking man is who lasts the longest.

1719
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:00,600
Speaker 1: But even with Antonio Brown, I was fat senate it.

1720
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 1: But at twenty three man with that kind of influencing power,

1721
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 1: I just don't know how I would react. I try

1722
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 1: to give a little game with it, because, Yo, if

1723
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 1: you wreck the bid lit, we're still gonna be here

1724
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 1: for you, all us. We're gonna steal whatever you're trying

1725
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 1: to do. But all in white people, you see the

1726
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 1: shaking your hand, and that's riding with you and heating

1727
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 1: your people up every day and talking deals and talking

1728
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: numbers and smiling and sending gifts and sending boxes of

1729
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: clothes and all. Let people gone. I all in, folks

1730
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: right there gone. You know, it's certain people I have

1731
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 1: relationship within the industry, don't matter what's going on with them.

1732
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm locked in with them. They can go broke right

1733
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 1: today they got my blessing. Then they got avenues through me,

1734
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: whatever avenues I have access to. It's just like there's

1735
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 1: because that's the relationship we have. But I hope they

1736
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 1: know that everybody ain't operating like that the same way

1737
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 1: I know. And so John Morant came out of he

1738
01:35:54,800 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: tweeted this gridgelist John Morant releases statement as he's going

1739
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: to take time to go receive health. Statement from John Morant.

1740
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: I take full responsibility for my actions last night. I'm

1741
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 1: sorry to my family, teammates, coaches, fans, partners, the city

1742
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 1: of Memphis, and the entire Grizzly organization for letting you down.

1743
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to take some time away to get help

1744
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: and work on learning better methods of dealing with stress

1745
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:24,560
Speaker 1: and my overall well being. And so the Grizzlies have

1746
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: suspended him for two games for the Live with the Weapon.

1747
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 1: I do want to really ask y'all, Like I understand

1748
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 1: the images at risk there, and again, you got to

1749
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 1: handcuff yourself to the journey that protects the blessing that

1750
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 1: God puts in your favor. And so I understand that part.

1751
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, just from a standpoint of having a

1752
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 1: gun in a state, what guns are not illegal, I'm

1753
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: trying to understand that. I'm trying to understand the rules

1754
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 1: around that. Now, job with all these other stories going,

1755
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 1: it's just a lot happening, and he got to be

1756
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 1: careful that he don't let them put him in the

1757
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 1: trick bag. I do believe he gonna be I I

1758
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 1: do believe that he gonna be straight. We've seen things

1759
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: like this before with the ais of the world and

1760
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 1: people going through certain things. We've seen Gilbert Arenas, We've

1761
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 1: seen Stephen Jackson go through things. We've seen We've we've

1762
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 1: even seen Jayden. A matter of fact, let's take a

1763
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: look at what Jalen said. I really appreciated his perspective,

1764
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,640
Speaker 1: seen that he went through the NBA, had some of

1765
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: these encounters himself and had to do some growing. Let's

1766
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 1: take a listen to what he said. Add a little

1767
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: game to that. I am John Morant. Like you guys

1768
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 1: have got a chance to see me grow up for

1769
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 1: public consumption since nineteen ninety one, and I've been involved

1770
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 1: in drug grades, I've survived assassination attempts. I've been that

1771
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 1: undisciplined young person that was trying to figure out how

1772
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 1: to be famous, how to be successful, and how to

1773
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: change the dynamic to my family. The one thing that

1774
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 1: young people have to understand, and in John Morant's case,

1775
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 1: when you first get drafted, you go from being a

1776
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 1: member of the family, a member of the crew, to

1777
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 1: being the leader, to being the bread winner and first

1778
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 1: and foremost. I hear a lot of people talking about

1779
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 1: his family and his crew. When you the leader, it's

1780
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 1: on you because you end up searching that lifestyle. You

1781
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: end up one team to be down. And what I

1782
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: had to learn is that people come into your life

1783
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 1: for four reasons. To add, subtract, multiply, or divide. You

1784
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 1: have to choose wisely. He has way too much to lose.

1785
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: Trust me. I've been that young player carrying a gun

1786
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: and Will Bond alluded to this. When you start waving it,

1787
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 1: that could get you killed. That that ain't That's that's

1788
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 1: all that's an entirely different thing than we're talking about.

1789
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: A superstar athlete should be putting themselves in position. And

1790
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 1: that Stephen ain't mentioned, that's him on the video on

1791
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 1: his ig live. Ain't nobody coaxing him, Ain't nobody gotta

1792
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody egging him on to do that. That's a

1793
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 1: personal choice and a lot of times, guys, as I mentioned,

1794
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 1: fame can be a drug. Let me address that before

1795
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 1: I move on for the rest of what Jaalen said.

1796
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 1: I didn't catch this first part um a lot of that,

1797
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, waving it in the act of some sort

1798
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 1: of violence or something. That's one thing. He's mimicking what

1799
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 1: the rappers do in the videos. He's mimicking what the

1800
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:49,640
Speaker 1: culture has exhibited to say, Hey, don't come with me.

1801
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 1: You know we strapped over here, you know, don't come

1802
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:54,600
Speaker 1: coming playing with this here. That was more of that.

1803
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: That wasn't no I'm waving it to try to scatter

1804
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: these people or do anything like that. And I want

1805
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 1: to add that to that, Stephen A. Smith is right,

1806
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 1: nobody was cheering him own or anything like that. That

1807
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:10,640
Speaker 1: environment is the culture, the rap culture, right, that's a

1808
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: lot of the rappers you see do that you know,

1809
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 1: and so I believe that it's a little bit of

1810
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 1: that influence. Let's listen to the rest of this. And

1811
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what type of pain that he deals

1812
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 1: with and type of anxiety that he has, or what

1813
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 1: types of substances that he may be using. And I'm

1814
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 1: glad in this statement that he owned that I need

1815
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 1: to make changes for me because as the leader, as

1816
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 1: the bread winner, you control the environment, the people that

1817
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 1: are around you. You select, and a lot of times, unfortunately,

1818
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 1: and Will Bond alluded to this also, when we start

1819
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 1: to get fame, when we start to get money, then

1820
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 1: we try to feel like we're keeping it real, like

1821
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 1: we're trying to be down now, We're trying to be

1822
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 1: tough now, we're trying to be hard now. But you

1823
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: made it, and once you make it, your job is

1824
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: to uplift, to enlighten. And I'm glad this actually happened

1825
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 1: at this point of his life. He's a twenty three

1826
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 1: year old young man. Nobody got arrested, nobody got injured,

1827
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 1: and I'm hearing too many stories about pistols. Okay, allegedly

1828
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 1: with the seventeen year old kid allegedly with the Indiana

1829
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 1: Pacer staff last night on a G Live. I saw

1830
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:32,760
Speaker 1: the video like you guys did, brandishing the gun. The

1831
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 1: next step to that is now recovery, and I believe

1832
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 1: that he's on that path. I'm happy that he's on

1833
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: that path. He's going to return and he's going to

1834
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 1: be a better person, and because of all of this

1835
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 1: taking place, he's not going to be able to live

1836
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 1: his full potential. Shout out to Jayalen for that soliloquy

1837
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: that he put down. Now, I do believe a lot

1838
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: that he said has a lot of credence to it.

1839
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: Job's in a very, very fortunate situation, and I too

1840
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 1: believe that he had bounced back from this interaction with

1841
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 1: the weapons is a great point. I do believe that

1842
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 1: at some point the energy you put out does come back.

1843
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: But more importantly, I think it's important that all of

1844
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 1: us understand that the devil is after your opportunity. The

1845
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 1: devil will put roll blocks and speed bumps at the

1846
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: intersection between you and your destiny, and so it's rough

1847
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 1: to navigate those things. But if you're aware that it's

1848
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 1: a stop sign somewhere around here, I don't see it

1849
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: yet I can't see that well, but I know somewhere

1850
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 1: you got to stop. If you know it's somewhere around

1851
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 1: here that it should be, then you know what to

1852
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:45,639
Speaker 1: look for. And so you have to know the devil

1853
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 1: is after your opportunity and you can't give him access

1854
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 1: to what God is placed in your corner because by

1855
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 1: himself he can't get access to it. He has to

1856
01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: be granted access to interfere with God's opportunity for you.

1857
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 1: Thinking about y'all, they didn't even have a real pathway,

1858
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 1: your pathway to be in a position he in right now.

1859
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 1: It was not clear from where he started from. So

1860
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 1: someone opened up some pathways for you to be able

1861
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: to walk through some doors that wasn't even made expecting you.

1862
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: And sometimes God creates those portals that the people on

1863
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,600
Speaker 1: the other side of the portal wasn't even expecting you.

1864
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 1: But here you are. Here, you are polished forgot about,

1865
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 1: but ready looked over. But prepare and respect at the

1866
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 1: highest level. It's protection. So I must protect what God

1867
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 1: has put here out of respect of the blessings. But

1868
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:53,600
Speaker 1: we send y'all healing energy, We send y'all understanding. You know,

1869
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 1: we send your game like we do the rest of

1870
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 1: the brothers in the industry. We try to give game,

1871
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 1: We try to give knowledge, understand and put something next

1872
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 1: to some of these things that's happening, not just talk

1873
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 1: to run up clicks, but we do that too, but

1874
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: we put major game down. Let's move on. Let's spend

1875
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:15,560
Speaker 1: a little time on this. Angela ye formerly of The

1876
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, has her new show Way Up with Angela

1877
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 1: Yee in efforts to, you know, put more eyeballs on

1878
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 1: the show. She's been doing media for the launch of

1879
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 1: the show and moving around just kind of speaking about

1880
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 1: what she sees herself in the media space, where she

1881
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 1: came from, her experiences and things of that nature. On

1882
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:40,599
Speaker 1: this particular conversation we're about to look at, Angela Yee

1883
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:45,679
Speaker 1: spoke on her encounter at the Breakfast Club. She spoke

1884
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 1: on quote unquote being the only woman there. And we'll

1885
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 1: let the clip kind of speak to what else she

1886
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 1: said and then we'll come back with some game. Let's

1887
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 1: take a look. Yeah, well, she's in charge of the

1888
01:44:57,320 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 1: stations and she really did help make this happen, make me,

1889
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 1: help me get syndicated. But was this a breakup? It

1890
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:07,679
Speaker 1: was like the beatles, because I don't know she told

1891
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 1: them before I asked her. She said, do you want

1892
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 1: me to tell them or do you want to I say,

1893
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 1: you tell them first, and then I'll come in and

1894
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 1: have the discussion once they know. Why didn't you want

1895
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 1: to tell them first? I thought it would be better

1896
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 1: for her to just let them digest it, and then

1897
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 1: I would come in and we would have a conversation

1898
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 1: about how to move forward. You know, my contract had

1899
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 1: been up since in December, and so I was already

1900
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 1: trying to figure out am I staying here? Am I

1901
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 1: going somewhere else? And I just wanted to keep all

1902
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: my options open. I never want to feel like I'm

1903
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 1: stuck somewhere. Yeah, and so I did have other options.

1904
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 1: But fortunately they did come to the table with this

1905
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,600
Speaker 1: amazing situation, which I did not anticipate. My agent called me,

1906
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 1: she was like, you know, I want to go back

1907
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 1: to this meeting. Yes, so you send her in to

1908
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 1: do recon work. Yeah, basically that's my dad was in

1909
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 1: the military. You send in the front line to tell

1910
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 1: the guys, what what was your feet Let's go to that.

1911
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 1: What was your worry? What did you worry might be

1912
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 1: their reaction that you didn't do it yourself. It wasn't

1913
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:10,800
Speaker 1: that I was worried. So I knew about this six

1914
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 1: months before they didn't they knew, right, they knew. Yeah, No,

1915
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 1: I knew about it six months before they knew about it, okay.

1916
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 1: And so it was something that was under wraps and

1917
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 1: in the world and radio and I'm sure in TV

1918
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 1: also when something's about to happen, no one can know

1919
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 1: because you thought Charlemagne was gonna leak it. You know,

1920
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 1: I'll ask you about it because a part of that

1921
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 1: will always be a part of your legacy. And one

1922
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 1: of the things I was always struck by was the

1923
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 1: fact that you were the lone woman, and whenever there

1924
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 1: was a controversy with Charlemagne or dj Envy, there were

1925
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 1: people who held you accountable in their minds for their actions.

1926
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:46,799
Speaker 1: There was the interview with Little Mama, a rapper, Angela,

1927
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 1: Azelia Banks, an entertainer, and Monique that come to mind,

1928
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 1: where people felt that Charlemagne was being misogynistic in his

1929
01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: tone and that you should have somehow wrangled him in

1930
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: I firmly disagree with that, because you're not there to

1931
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 1: police them. But people held you accountable for things that

1932
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 1: the guys, as they wrote in one article, did how

1933
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 1: did that make you feel? And I wasn't even there

1934
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 1: when they interviewed the zeal your beans. So I'm like,

1935
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do? But I also feel like,

1936
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I would feel like I got it

1937
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 1: harder than he did for something that he said. And

1938
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: so I also want to make it clear that we're

1939
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 1: all three individuals. You say what you say, feel how

1940
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 1: you feel, and I do too. But it's hard because

1941
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,640
Speaker 1: people affiliate you with the whole group. And that was

1942
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 1: part of why I really wanted to have my own

1943
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,600
Speaker 1: show because now what happens, I'm accountable for that. But

1944
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:42,560
Speaker 1: when you had three people with three different opinions or

1945
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:47,520
Speaker 1: three different viewpoints and completely different personalities, we're all individuals,

1946
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 1: but sometimes it's hard for people to separate. I want

1947
01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 1: to go back to the woman part of it, because

1948
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 1: you did hit on something, because you were the lone

1949
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 1: woman on this show with a lot of bravado, with

1950
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 1: a lot of edge, disruptive, and that's why millions of

1951
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 1: people love the show. It seemed to me that people

1952
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 1: were always riding you. Yeah, and you know, I was

1953
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 1: the only woman who worked there too. I mean when

1954
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 1: it came to producers, camera people, and it wasn't an

1955
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 1: easy room from me. I didn't know that. So I

1956
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:17,720
Speaker 1: feel like I did need more like backup, you know,

1957
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 1: because even things that I felt as a woman, it

1958
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,560
Speaker 1: is you know, if somebody can't understand your point of

1959
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 1: view because they're not coming from where you come from.

1960
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:27,600
Speaker 1: And so that was hard for me too to be

1961
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 1: the only woman there with nobody to be like, check somebody,

1962
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, you shouldn't have said that like that, it's

1963
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 1: just me. And there were times I did do that

1964
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, because you know, we should be able

1965
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 1: to do that. That's part of what it is. I'm

1966
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 1: not always going to agree, but when nobody's like, you

1967
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:47,720
Speaker 1: know what, she's right, or let's all have a conversation

1968
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 1: about this, it's just kind of like you say what

1969
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 1: you say. And then did you find yourself fighting for

1970
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:55,560
Speaker 1: respect from the co host who I don't respect you,

1971
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:59,600
Speaker 1: but when you're the only woman in the room, and

1972
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:02,560
Speaker 1: which blew me away. Just now you're saying, even in

1973
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:06,680
Speaker 1: the production part of it, yeah you're there. It was

1974
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 1: a lot. So that that was audio of Angela Ye

1975
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 1: speaking on her time at the Breakfast Club and being

1976
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 1: the only woman that works there. And I found that

1977
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 1: interesting only because I'm a student of the game and

1978
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 1: I know Nyla and I know fun Sized Tea on Instagram.

1979
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:28,599
Speaker 1: They both work at Breakfast Club and have been for years.

1980
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure. Maybe something, Maybe I don't know

1981
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:35,560
Speaker 1: what I'm speaking about. I think Angeli Ye visibly for

1982
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:39,479
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, has been for lack of

1983
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 1: a better term, wearing what she felt on camera. I

1984
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:46,680
Speaker 1: do believe some of what she's saying she felt. I

1985
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 1: don't know if it's validated, but I do believe that

1986
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 1: she felt something in her spirit because it kind of

1987
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 1: it kind of was visible on camera from the outside.

1988
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:58,600
Speaker 1: It's like I believe at some point something switched for

1989
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 1: her and not sure why. I imagine that's hard for

1990
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:06,719
Speaker 1: Charlemagne and Envy to hear. It's like, man, we haven't

1991
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 1: said none. We wish you the best. And that's why

1992
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, this industry is a place, man, where you

1993
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 1: cannot be emotionally involved. This is someone that worked they

1994
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 1: worked together for years, man over a decade or something like.

1995
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 1: They worked together for a long time and they and

1996
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 1: this is still a situation that it's ironed out in

1997
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 1: public in which it kind of throwing the other guys

1998
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 1: under the bus. It's like, yo, you know, how did

1999
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: you feel? And I felt like they didn't hear me,

2000
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 1: and I felt like this and that, and DJ Envy

2001
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 1: in particular, and I imagine Charlemagne didn't answer. And I

2002
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 1: ain't even called him about this because I don't see

2003
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 1: the need to have no conversation about it. But DJ

2004
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 1: even didn't really like what was said. So he responded,

2005
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 1: let's take a look at what every first. DJ Envy

2006
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 1: comes under the post and says, cap, that's not true.

2007
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 1: There are plenty of women that work behind the scenes

2008
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 1: on Breakfast Club. And so he had this conversation on

2009
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: her time at the show and talked about being the

2010
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:07,760
Speaker 1: only woman working on the breast up show. Whichever I

2011
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: mean she was. I mean it was cars, Charlemann and myself.

2012
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 1: So she was the only woman on air, but behind

2013
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 1: the scenes there was so many different I mean, I

2014
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 1: was forced to actually person that pays out bills and

2015
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,680
Speaker 1: pays out checks and hires us that Steve Mitchell a

2016
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 1: head of the university. Gradually, by the way, it was

2017
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:21,640
Speaker 1: a woman. There's a bunch of women there. I think

2018
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:23,640
Speaker 1: she misspoke. I think her words were taking out of

2019
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 1: I guess technicality, and I'm sure she would clean that up.

2020
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of women that work on that show.

2021
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 1: I mean they can go from Tailor was a producer

2022
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:34,679
Speaker 1: now to Sydney to Samantha to how Claudia wasn't producer

2023
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 1: sassful because there was a lot of women on it.

2024
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 1: It was about of diverse people going there. But you know,

2025
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad that she has her own show. She's doing well.

2026
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:43,599
Speaker 1: I'm excited for her. They come on early, she comes

2027
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 1: on right after us, So I mean it's like anything

2028
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 1: else sometimes and I mean there's there's no problems, no

2029
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 1: brief nothing like that. But I just felt like, you know,

2030
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 1: she didn't I guess her comments and the things that

2031
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:54,559
Speaker 1: she said were taking out of character and taking out

2032
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 1: of what they really meant. Well, you were on her

2033
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 1: time aline comments that you know, really rebuff like oh no,

2034
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 1: that's not true, and how people are taking that and

2035
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,560
Speaker 1: run with them on social media. So you want to

2036
01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 1: clear up on your relationship or the thing, whether it's

2037
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 1: a fan or talked about it. I got to clear up.

2038
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 1: I mean you know what it's what it is. It's

2039
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 1: the truth. It's honesty, you know, I mean, you can

2040
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 1: be honest with all your friends. You know. I mean

2041
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I don't like somebody else that they don't

2042
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: like me. You know, you say something foul, we have

2043
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:24,560
Speaker 1: can say some falley back it is what it is.

2044
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 1: Or you say something right to them and say something

2045
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 1: right to you back, and look at it like this.

2046
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 1: It's bigger than than the breakfast club, is bigger than

2047
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 1: the way up with you. It's bigger than all that.

2048
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 1: You're talking power one or five one, which is at

2049
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 1: home station and my brother Clue is there, my brother's

2050
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 1: self is then. You know, sometimes we argue with each

2051
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 1: other or we say things that we don't like him.

2052
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 1: We say we keep it moving. So you hear Envy

2053
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:46,639
Speaker 1: debunk some of what she's saying. And again I don't.

2054
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't work there, so I don't know. But I

2055
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 1: do believe that to be the case that women work there,

2056
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 1: just based on my visibly paying attention to the mark

2057
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 1: and say, oh I know her, she works there, Oh

2058
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 1: she'd be over here with it. That's the girl works

2059
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 1: behind the scene, right, putting those things together and knowing

2060
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 1: people in the industry right, just knowing who who, knowing

2061
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 1: the who's who other industry. At some point, though, it

2062
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: did feel like Angela Yee was feeding for exit. It's

2063
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 1: like she was trying to get out of there almost.

2064
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 1: It just it felt that way, you know what I'm saying.

2065
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 1: And I think that the guys have handled it pretty well,

2066
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 1: you know, and the transition of the show is doing

2067
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 1: tremendous in my opinion. So I don't really know what

2068
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 1: the smoke is about or what the beef is about.

2069
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 1: I do remember a long time ago some Guccia Man conversation.

2070
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,919
Speaker 1: I don't know if that led to it, but that's

2071
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 1: something happening with how Ye feels. Clearly she left there

2072
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 1: with some resentment or feeling a certain kind of way.

2073
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 1: But congratulations to Ye. She has her own show now

2074
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:52,840
Speaker 1: doing big things. Weigh up with Angela Yee. Breakfast Club

2075
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 1: is still going on, clicking that high cylinders. So it

2076
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 1: created a new show talk about this and then I'm

2077
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 1: gonna get out of here for the day, hopefully. Like

2078
01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 1: gay y'all a long enough podcast. But sometimes guys are

2079
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 1: afraid of love. I'm talking about the love that holds

2080
01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 1: you accountable, not the feeling of love, because we all

2081
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 1: want that feeling of love. Somebody that rub by bad

2082
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:19,600
Speaker 1: cookers food, you know, buys things, give us security, be

2083
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 1: their force in our time of need. That's the feeling

2084
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 1: of love. But the accountability of love is a totally

2085
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 1: different thing. And sometimes you can deal with people who

2086
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 1: can provide you the feeling of love, they don't want

2087
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 1: to be held accountable with loves guard reels, right, those

2088
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 1: boundaries that love put in place, those guard reels, and

2089
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 1: where you can't go out of bounds with certain things

2090
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 1: that we no longer operating out of love. I hear

2091
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 1: a conversation now where it's like a lot of people

2092
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 1: won't they old man to pay them not to go

2093
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:59,440
Speaker 1: to work. I really don't like that verbiage. For your man,

2094
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 1: then if EO trigger, if he's something. But I'm talking

2095
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 1: about for the dude that really love you, that really

2096
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 1: protect you, that might put his life on the lane

2097
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 1: about you, and you got to talk to him like

2098
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 1: pay me not to go to work. That's unfortunate, but

2099
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't have to operate under those circumstances.

2100
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 1: But I think it's a conversation to be had there,

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna have that conversation with some of my

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Speaker 1: strip of home girls. We're gonna sit down and really

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Speaker 1: talk about that particular part of it. So if any

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Speaker 1: of you content dudes run off with that, we know

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Speaker 1: where you got it from. But I want to speak

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Speaker 1: about love. Love is a beautiful thing, right, But what

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Speaker 1: love does to you it it's an access or to trust.

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Speaker 1: It damaged misused trust can do to you. Love can't

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Speaker 1: fix you. See how weird that is. Through love you

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Speaker 1: can get trust, but because of love, you can't fix

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Speaker 1: the damage that misused trust will cause you. So then

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Speaker 1: you got to operate with won't love, needing love, having

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Speaker 1: love and trying to figure out when they let it

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Speaker 1: access trust. And if a man's not giving you the accountability,

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Speaker 1: that's a test to love. And he says he really

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Speaker 1: loves you, it's a lot of times because he may

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Speaker 1: be afraid that you are mishandling and he's aware that

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Speaker 1: the damage that they can cause, even your love or

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Speaker 1: the next woman love can fix. But I continue to

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Speaker 1: preach that accountability is the highest form of adulthood. And

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Speaker 1: so me as the man, I'm accountable for my woman.

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Speaker 1: I'm accountable for my children. I'm accountable for my family.

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Speaker 1: I'm accountable for my circumstances. I'm accountable for my goals.

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Speaker 1: I'm accountable for my failures. I'm accountable for what I say.

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Speaker 1: I'm accountable for what I don't do. I'm accountable for

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Speaker 1: what I do do. I'm accountable for the environment I create,

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Speaker 1: and I'm accountable for the circumstances I buy by. I'm

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Speaker 1: accountable for things because I am the leader, and I

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Speaker 1: accept that, and I be a fool. The thing loved

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Speaker 1: don't to come with no accountability in life. I've taught

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Speaker 1: myself and I've been able to learn throughout my journey

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Speaker 1: that there ain't no free lunch for everything you get.

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Speaker 1: You will give something for everything you receive. You will

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Speaker 1: release something for every zig, there's a zag. For every yang,

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Speaker 1: there's a yang. I've learned along the time that there's

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Speaker 1: nothing that goals without costs. And at the top of

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Speaker 1: that letter is trust and love. I speak to some

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Speaker 1: of my partners. They do business and they say, loan

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Speaker 1: it is personal, and I say, I know, I feel it.

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Speaker 1: It's personal for me, but I'm operating in an era area.

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Speaker 1: Business is never supposed to be personal, but I get

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Speaker 1: personal with my business. That's what Rocko said, and we

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Speaker 1: remember that and we live by that. But I won't

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Speaker 1: have enough business to where they can't affect this no

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Speaker 1: matter what they do. Right now, I'm chocking for position, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm jocking. I'm in this weird little fight and I'm

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Speaker 1: chocking for position. It's working out too. I'm just getting

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Speaker 1: under the gold. I'm gonna ask for the bottle. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go for a high percent of shot and see

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Speaker 1: what happened. And if we SCO, we're gonna come back

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Speaker 1: down and run the place SCO again. Prepared to be

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Speaker 1: sick of me what I'm saying. And it really ain't

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Speaker 1: no love in this industry. And I don't get fixated

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Speaker 1: on the fixture that this industry provides those that deal

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Speaker 1: with the finances at the highest level. Your watches don't

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Speaker 1: impress me. Your Jerry don't impress me. I want to

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Speaker 1: know as they really paying you. I want to know

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Speaker 1: what you're trying to figure out. Where the stream is

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Speaker 1: work since you got too big. I see your plaques,

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Speaker 1: but where your cash? Shit? Is they paying like they weighing?

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Speaker 1: Or is they sending you plates you know, I'm more

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Speaker 1: interested than what the information lines that the people I

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Speaker 1: get around, I talk game with them, what's up with this?

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Speaker 1: And how they be working? Man? What they be doing

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Speaker 1: with that? You know, I'm one of them, can I'm

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Speaker 1: one of them intuitive guys. I'm one of them guys

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Speaker 1: that trying to figure some things out. I gave y'all

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Speaker 1: a nice podcast today. Man, Again, I want to thank

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Speaker 1: everybody tune then it's up their podcast, Big Loan, biggest

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Speaker 1: podcasts in history. Man. If you ain't on Patron, you'll

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Speaker 1: never see this video. You can catch clips on that

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Speaker 1: fogfo TV clips on Instagram, Facebook. We're for to turn

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Speaker 1: out the social media up and we got a lot

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Speaker 1: of interviews. We're just waiting on this business to clear

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Speaker 1: so we can drop it. And we want to make

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Speaker 1: a real impact in the culture, man. And so thank

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Speaker 1: everybody that's locked in, tuned in Big Loan. I love y'all.

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Speaker 1: Y'all allowed me a runway to be able to do

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Speaker 1: things I never thought I can do, and I humbly

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Speaker 1: thank God for the opportunity. For those of you that's

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Speaker 1: locked in, stay locked in. For those of you just hustling,

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Speaker 1: keep hustling, m what as a will, as a way

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Speaker 1: you lock in on your old m Put God, ris

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Speaker 1: and boundaries around your piece. Put a fence around your money.

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Speaker 1: Put God first, Take care of your family, love your people,

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Speaker 1: um and put mama up. Let mama do what she

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Speaker 1: wanna do. You know what I'm saying. It's up that

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Speaker 1: podcast show.