WEBVTT - Ciara: Healing the Emotional Scars

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, fam I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>on Apple podcasts. On this Red Table talk ye Grammy

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<v Speaker 1>Award winning singer, songwriter, producer and model Sierra. People see

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<v Speaker 1>me glammed up and everything looks like it's good, and

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<v Speaker 1>everything is not always good. I mean a shower and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be crying because I'm not in the happiest place

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<v Speaker 1>and it hurts when I'm going through. I'm really afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of losing myself. What was the most painful aspect of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it the breakup? Was it the idea of being

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<v Speaker 1>a single parent? When I was thinking about my son future,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized I have to start making different decisions period.

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<v Speaker 1>And she shares intimate details about her husband, Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it about Russell that made you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this is the one? It was different? Was the family?

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<v Speaker 1>He was like this and arms like I got you girl?

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<v Speaker 1>Where the tissue? So yes, we got us a fist

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<v Speaker 1>once a day, honey, this is gonna be good. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why I really wanted to have her

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<v Speaker 1>come to the table was the idea that she's transformed

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<v Speaker 1>some of her maybe not so pleasant experiences into the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of a beauty mark. I remember used to call

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<v Speaker 1>them battle scars. There's like, no, you got some beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>battle scars, yeah, but beauty mark is actually yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way are beautiful. Every woman has her beauty marks.

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<v Speaker 1>You need the adversity to come into your wisdom. It

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<v Speaker 1>is up to us to transform it. And and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm really interested in. Sierra burst onto the music

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<v Speaker 1>scene when she was only eighteen years old, and since

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<v Speaker 1>then she has sold over twenty three million records. In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty hurteen, Sierra and rapper producer Future announced their engagement,

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<v Speaker 1>but after a very public and painful breakup, Sierra unexpectedly

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<v Speaker 1>became a single mom to their son, also named Future.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she found what she describes as the love of

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<v Speaker 1>her life, NFL superstar Russell Wilson. Sierra decided to level

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<v Speaker 1>up with her latest album, where she shares some of

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<v Speaker 1>the most vulnerable moments of her life and reveals how

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<v Speaker 1>she turned her emotional scars into beauty marks. Let's introduce

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty to the Red Table Siera. So good to

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<v Speaker 1>see you guys are I'm my god, you you ladies

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<v Speaker 1>are phenomenal. I mean, what I'm looking at in front

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<v Speaker 1>of my face, I don't know the TV really shows

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<v Speaker 1>it how I see right here, but you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's beautiful, thank you and it's amazing, it's inspiring.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, being a mom thinking about the bond that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have is very special and very rare. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's awesome. You know, I've seen you since you

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<v Speaker 1>were a team. The idea of your album being called

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<v Speaker 1>Beauty Mars that really hit me. As we come and

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<v Speaker 1>go deeper into our womanhood, how we realize everything that

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<v Speaker 1>we've been through, nothing's wasted, no regrets, real talk, learned

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<v Speaker 1>from all your mistakes, learned from all your experiences. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>when was that moment in your life where you realized

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<v Speaker 1>that idea? Because I think that's a pivotal moment, very pivotal.

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<v Speaker 1>I think becoming a single mom was a start of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have moments not being in the shower and

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<v Speaker 1>not be crying like I was, Like a few few

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<v Speaker 1>moments I'll be crying. Different settings show and I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>like crying because I am not in the happiest haste

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<v Speaker 1>and it hurts what I'm going through. And what was

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<v Speaker 1>the most painful aspect of that? It was painful? Was it?

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<v Speaker 1>The breakup wasn't the idea of a single. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of everything, right, because none of it was ideal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't what you pictured. I grew with my mom

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<v Speaker 1>and my dad being together, the idea of it being

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<v Speaker 1>mommy and daddy that made baby. And then also you're

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<v Speaker 1>living your life in front of the world a whole

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<v Speaker 1>of the layer. I don't feel like I'm failing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Other people, most me, they come in and comments like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know all that stuff. You know, it's it's real.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't help but to think of it. The one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I fear in life is really wasting my life,

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<v Speaker 1>wasting my time. I really fear that because you realize

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<v Speaker 1>that time does not stop and it will be the

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<v Speaker 1>worst scenario to stay in a situation that it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not healthy. It's not going to get any better. I've

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<v Speaker 1>realized I have to start making different decisions. Period. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>don't actually know what you want, but you know what

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want. You know what you don't want that.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing what you don't want is really half that's half

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<v Speaker 1>more than half real because he creates clarity. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm clear. And then when you know what you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want and you see that image, you're like, exactly, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was thinking about my son, I know what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to feel like, I know the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>love like that I want for us. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to understand that too, because even sometimes we

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<v Speaker 1>give people on earth more power than they should have,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's important, right, who are you surrounding yourself? It

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<v Speaker 1>was a vulnerable moments and sometimes your friends to send

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<v Speaker 1>you up up the flame and down the drain. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>one time I was working out on the elliptical machine

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like not sure about do I

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<v Speaker 1>stay or do I you know what direction? Do I go?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the right thing to do? And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to do this, but it's the easy thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing, right. So what I did was the

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<v Speaker 1>future was like my teddy bear. Yeah. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go, We're about to do this thing again.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go. So his first trip was to a visa

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<v Speaker 1>and that was kind of like my first time stepping out,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't all way back to my normal weight. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, we're about to go, Like, let's go. I

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<v Speaker 1>just was like, I'm going to commit. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>commit to pulling through. There's no other option because if

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<v Speaker 1>I if I decided, if I chose not to commit,

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<v Speaker 1>then I was gonna fall apart. And the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I will say is I'm really afraid of losing myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it. And I think if you sit in situations

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't healthy, or you let them like linger too long,

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<v Speaker 1>you start to lose yourself. I don't like crying all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I don't like being sad. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I get out of this because I like

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<v Speaker 1>being like trying to I'm like, we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>push through it exactly. I'm not trying to sit in

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<v Speaker 1>this feeling. You know. I had to take a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times to figure it out. But my dad's love

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<v Speaker 1>is would save me in all my situations, meaning because

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<v Speaker 1>it would get to a point where it's like my

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<v Speaker 1>dad would do my mom right, like business can't be

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<v Speaker 1>love God. So he was your barometer. It's like you

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<v Speaker 1>and I would think of him and the right moment,

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<v Speaker 1>would you make me say, Okay, it's like doing the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing over and over as insanity. Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, okay, I gotta do something a little

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<v Speaker 1>different here. So I had to say that I had

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<v Speaker 1>the same goal. I always had the same goal one

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to be loved a certain way. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>just walking in the wrong direction. I was looking in

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong direction. I thought it's gonna be single for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. Being in that new position of being

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<v Speaker 1>a single mom is like when you're thinking about dating,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a bit of a like what's this gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like? Because I look different now, Like not saying

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<v Speaker 1>I physically looked a look different because when I when

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<v Speaker 1>I date now, it's not just me, it's Sam. You

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody else. So you created a different vision for you, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was very clear on it. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>desire something different. Let me tell you that right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Because a lot of people like in situations that they

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<v Speaker 1>say they want to be out of, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to change that. You don't really want that we

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<v Speaker 1>keep having the same behaviors that keep creating those situations.

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<v Speaker 1>So you actually really like the pain that you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so loving myself was huge because once I start to

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<v Speaker 1>love myself, then I'm also loving my son. Right then

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<v Speaker 1>I can also love how I can also be loved

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<v Speaker 1>how I deserved it to be loved, and I can

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<v Speaker 1>also love the right way too. And the moment I

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<v Speaker 1>start to do that, like the taste of something that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought kind of was like cool or tasted right before,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't taste good anymore. Yeah, your tastes change. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I could feel the feeling of what I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>have in my husband that was going to come into

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<v Speaker 1>my life. No more of the engage and do that

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<v Speaker 1>no more? Like how how do they talk about marriage?

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<v Speaker 1>When they talk they tell you they actually kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tell you when they talk about marriage the guy whoever?

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<v Speaker 1>They tell you they yes, you don't hear sometime what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to hear? Yeah, what was it about Russell

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<v Speaker 1>that made you feel like he this is the one?

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<v Speaker 1>Because what you said before is so true. When you

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<v Speaker 1>have a child, you can't you can't experiment And the

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<v Speaker 1>bringing everybody and everybody home. When Russ came into our

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<v Speaker 1>lives feature was ten months old, there was different. I

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<v Speaker 1>never had that feeling in my What was the failing

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<v Speaker 1>what it was just like it was calm. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's important. It was girl, it was calm before the

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<v Speaker 1>cold might not have been a thing you were looking for,

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<v Speaker 1>you like, I need to fight. When that feeling come out,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna turn away and we're gonna we're gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>for that other feeling. But the thing is is that

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling doesn't happen though, Yeah, it doesn't because you're clear. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Russie and I met, we were being friends first, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually met my family in the friend setting. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was not only me, but it's also my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>When he saw us all together for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in person, when we talked, we were connecting on every

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<v Speaker 1>way and we talked about being equally yoked and his

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<v Speaker 1>conversation it was just different. The way he looked at life.

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<v Speaker 1>It was different. Also the energy with my son, it

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<v Speaker 1>just felt right. And then of course the consistency. He's consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>That consistency is so crucial. People can show up real

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<v Speaker 1>nice on day one day he was like this open

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<v Speaker 1>arms like he's like all come, like I got you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Just the detail like whenever he would think of me,

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<v Speaker 1>he would always think about my son, and to love

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<v Speaker 1>me as to love my son. We come together. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just it's a different level of love.

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<v Speaker 1>I really feel. That's one of my pet peeves. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't love me and not love what I love

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<v Speaker 1>for me. When I look at your story and I

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<v Speaker 1>see you guys together, and I could tell that he's

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<v Speaker 1>got real love for you because of how he's loved

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<v Speaker 1>your son. He had a post and I'm getting blink

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<v Speaker 1>you already just thinking about it because I know how challengeing, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because I have a bonus son who I adore, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's challenging and knowing how to balance because there is

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<v Speaker 1>a place. You know, Trey has a mother, so I

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<v Speaker 1>had to learn how to have that motherly compassion without

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<v Speaker 1>trying to fill that space because that space is taken right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Russell, he had a posed for future on his

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<v Speaker 1>fifth birthday, said, from the moment we came into each

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<v Speaker 1>other's world, now five years later, you've changed my life,

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<v Speaker 1>my heart for the better. You are the greatest gift

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<v Speaker 1>I could ever ask God for. Yeah, I will always

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<v Speaker 1>love you. God, you teach you care for you. Happy

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<v Speaker 1>fifth birthday. Don't make me cry because I know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for a man. Can we just be real about

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<v Speaker 1>that for a minute, okay, Like for a man to

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<v Speaker 1>take on that responsibility. It has been a very special

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<v Speaker 1>journey with my husband and I because we are blended family.

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<v Speaker 1>How has it been as far as having a blended family,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know that in my situation, My goodness, you

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<v Speaker 1>take a long time. You know. I was telling Will

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<v Speaker 1>the other day, you know, because she and I were

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<v Speaker 1>chilling at the Aladdin premiere and over the years, how

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<v Speaker 1>the process and how now it's so it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>what's that, right? You know, It's just it does tate

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<v Speaker 1>times always think about the mother's leng too far Proffer,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even think about that. It's a different dynamic,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. More than anything this is has been something

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<v Speaker 1>real on my heart is that I don't think people

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<v Speaker 1>really think about the child when they like to make

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<v Speaker 1>chatter about kids, because everyone likes to weigh in on opinions. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody got something to say. Adults, we can won't be fine, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But the child is the person that has to read stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>They have to see stuff. As far as the real

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<v Speaker 1>life part of it versus the celebrity part, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing is always trying our best to just

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<v Speaker 1>like live life as much as we can, as normal

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, and so Russian fright in he was changing diapers.

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<v Speaker 1>He was so proud of Future's first steps. When I

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<v Speaker 1>go to teach a parent conferences, he's at every one

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<v Speaker 1>of them with me, and I make sure schedule so

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<v Speaker 1>he can be there because those details matter to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's honestly one of those sexiest things about him to

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<v Speaker 1>me because the way he loves my son. Also he

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<v Speaker 1>loves our kids. Yeah, it's sexy. So so in the deliver,

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the he was, he was in there,

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<v Speaker 1>you see, was choke when I pushed out Future. He

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<v Speaker 1>was nine pounds announcers, he was one. Really she was

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<v Speaker 1>not as big as Future, but I stalled at six

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<v Speaker 1>cimeters so it worked out obviously. But she beat me up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, there must be something about this too,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's got fired in the belly. But that's how

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<v Speaker 1>mom was. She beat me up in the tummy. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew you I had a fire cracker, you know, say

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<v Speaker 1>I'd throw an elbow exactly. Girls bring so much fire,

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<v Speaker 1>like I see the difference with Siena and Future and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just nice. Sienna is too going on twenty like

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<v Speaker 1>y'all ready because ready if y'all ain't ready to too

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<v Speaker 1>bad for you because it's about to start. I know

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<v Speaker 1>when I delivered my kids, it put will an ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>aw Yes, he had such a different respect and understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of feminine power. Did you have that moment where because

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<v Speaker 1>he was right there. He's a great boy. He was

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<v Speaker 1>with me every step of the way. It's amazing because

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell he still has moments when he's just

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<v Speaker 1>like wow, even looking at that. The fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>has a daughter, like it's just so, it's just what

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<v Speaker 1>has that been like? Because even for will he loves

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<v Speaker 1>all his children, but there's a connection that he has

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<v Speaker 1>two Willow specifically as a father to a daughter. I

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<v Speaker 1>can see how he's softened. Yes, I think he's been

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<v Speaker 1>doing a pretty decent job being firmed with love. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got a good balance with it. But I do see

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<v Speaker 1>the dynamics between when he's with future and with her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to be rough with the boys, but she's delicate. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the little princess. Everything she does, like, oh like everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's so sweet. I think also, there's something beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>about your kids seeing how you're loved. Yeah, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a young girl, I watched how my dad loved

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and and it's really sweet because they're so

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<v Speaker 1>loving already. Both keep your auntie and it just showers

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<v Speaker 1>me with kisses after school and seas. The way she

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<v Speaker 1>loves and the way she loves with daddy. It's really precious.

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<v Speaker 1>And they learned from seeing you. They it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>from everything that you've gone through now you can really

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<v Speaker 1>be grateful. Like your gratitude. Oh, it's real, because I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have gone through those things. I may not have appreciated. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the man that I have in my life, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to appreciate it when it is really going good and

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<v Speaker 1>everything's falling in place. You need those roller coasters. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe in my journey happening in front of the world

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<v Speaker 1>for a reason. I'm really impressed at how unapologetic you

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<v Speaker 1>are at being a mother and a wife. But you like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still sexy. You gotta be. And I'm still working,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could be a devoted mom and a devoted wife.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm I'm thriving it more like i

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm doing my thing, like about to do

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<v Speaker 1>the cover of you know, okay, and then I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to go tomorrow, gonna drive my kids to school, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like and then I do a confidence call

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<v Speaker 1>to that and I picked them up from school, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hang out with my husband date night, and I

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<v Speaker 1>go back on the road again, Like it's the time

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, I gotta make the best of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what I think, for me, it's also

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<v Speaker 1>important for my kids to see mommy doing her thing,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can do anything you put your mind to,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's real. And then factoring in now we're in

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<v Speaker 1>CEO hat and artists had, mommy had and wife had

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<v Speaker 1>its turns up like makes the best thing. It's good time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? God, don't just for it

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<v Speaker 1>all and to who much has given? Much is required.

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<v Speaker 1>As someone that's kind of tough, I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>been conditioned to be and protect mode. Oh yeah, like love,

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<v Speaker 1>but still a little ounce of protection here just in

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<v Speaker 1>case to mind wanna drop me off and just leave

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<v Speaker 1>me hanging. But I think you gotta love fearlessly when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the right situation. You have to, like I

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<v Speaker 1>surrender it. Yeah, you have to. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>people misunderstand the most about you. That's a really good question.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like for times, I've always seemed a bit

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<v Speaker 1>serious and I like to have fun, like I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>goofy girl, you know, And I think oftentimes people see

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<v Speaker 1>me glammed up and everything looks like it's good, and

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<v Speaker 1>everything is not always good. So I do want people

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<v Speaker 1>to know that. But I will tell you sometimes when

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<v Speaker 1>you fake it till you make it, it helps you

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<v Speaker 1>get through some stuff. Let's bring out the fishbowl. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the fishbowl, the infamous fishbowl. Here we go. Alright, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're I guess, all right, so you get to pick first.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you and Russell going to have another baby? If

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<v Speaker 1>you if you would ask Russell, we have like five

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<v Speaker 1>more kids to me. I do look forward to having

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<v Speaker 1>another baby. I hope that I can have at least

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<v Speaker 1>two more. Yeah, that's I love my kids. I loving

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<v Speaker 1>a mom. It's like my wife and my life. My

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<v Speaker 1>family is my wife in my life, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm really doing something even more because of them. Yeah. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the music and stuff is amazing, But gosh, when I

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<v Speaker 1>look at those babies, I just say thank you God.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love being a mom. That's the way I

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<v Speaker 1>can see it. I enjoy it. Yeah, this way best

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<v Speaker 1>gift you ever gave to Russell and received from Russell.

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<v Speaker 1>I just recently threw him his thirtieth birthday surprise right there.

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<v Speaker 1>But does she just say thirty? Is that this year?

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<v Speaker 1>They're young? Yes? He was like, okay, y'all and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a cooky no, but your baby is still Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>am through his thirty of surprise birthday party. He actually

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<v Speaker 1>threw my thirty of surprise birthday party, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>only right that I got him back because that was

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<v Speaker 1>the best party I ever had in my life. Thirty

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<v Speaker 1>is such a special number. I wanted for him to

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<v Speaker 1>walk into thirty with the bank, and so I did that. NZ.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where you see here. Do you and Russell

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<v Speaker 1>ever argue? I don't know argue as the word, but

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<v Speaker 1>we do have moments where we He thinks blue and

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<v Speaker 1>I think red. Of course we do have those moments. Luckily,

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<v Speaker 1>it has not been crazy so far, and we're about

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<v Speaker 1>our third year of marriage. It doesn't have crazy. Yeah, crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like arguing, like we didn't do a lot of arts.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really calm. He's pretty calmed too. He's very passionate,

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<v Speaker 1>as he says. Yeah, we never get like tone high

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<v Speaker 1>neither and I never ever, and I've been married to

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<v Speaker 1>him for twenty one years. So, Jennifer from Seattle, what

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<v Speaker 1>was the specific prayer you pray to get cook the system?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the funniest thing in the world, this prayer

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<v Speaker 1>thing that all the fans talk about, Jennifer. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that when you pray for things in your life, be

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<v Speaker 1>very specifically, very clear. You know about what you want

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<v Speaker 1>and to the point to whereas you can taste it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can feel it through your bones, you

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<v Speaker 1>can feel through your body. It's a very spiritual thing

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<v Speaker 1>because you're getting lost by praying and speaking and declaring

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<v Speaker 1>what you want for your life. You know, I pray

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<v Speaker 1>to really learned, you know, from the wisdom that I gained.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I prayed for discernment. I pray for god

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<v Speaker 1>fearing man. Yeah, pray for someone that was gonna love kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to stop you right there, because you just

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<v Speaker 1>said something very important. I tell people all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>a man can't be a good man for you. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be a good man for himself. Important And

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to just want else from validation. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>me and my husband look at and I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a better woman because of him. He's like, he says

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<v Speaker 1>he's a better man of you, use and me. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know who we are by our first and foremost

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<v Speaker 1>with ourselves. Who do you want to be a woman

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<v Speaker 1>and who he wants to be as his own man?

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<v Speaker 1>And how you to support each other in that? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's very attractive when someone knows who they are. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're a leader, you know, and they're clear

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<v Speaker 1>on their vision. Where are you trying to go to

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<v Speaker 1>and what is it that you don't want exactly? I

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<v Speaker 1>just got a journal. I've actually been in detail writing

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<v Speaker 1>like what I want for my life, Like what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of person I want to be, how I want to

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<v Speaker 1>react in certain situations, the things that I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I need to learn, the things that I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>i've I have a good handle on. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a real thing, because I really believe that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get to where you want to get to in life

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<v Speaker 1>without having a compass and writing down is real. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was thirteen years old and I'm fourteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I was trying to look at my

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<v Speaker 1>life head after high school and trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to do with my life as it

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<v Speaker 1>related to my dreams. Like when I wrote down on

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<v Speaker 1>a sheet of paper my goals, and they were the

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<v Speaker 1>goal list was short at first, right, I was very specific.

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<v Speaker 1>The first goal was to get discovered, and the second

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<v Speaker 1>goal was once I got discovered, to sell three to

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<v Speaker 1>four million records. And the third goal was to have longevity. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>those are my three goals on that paper. Fifteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>I signed my first publishing deal. Sixteen years old, I

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<v Speaker 1>signed my first recording contract. Then eighteen years old, put

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<v Speaker 1>out my first album, and then and that album not

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<v Speaker 1>only sold three to four million records, so five million

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<v Speaker 1>records and the third goal longevity. Now I'm fifteen years

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<v Speaker 1>later saying, they're talking to you guys, so that one

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<v Speaker 1>simple philosophy or that page. So what you're saying is real,

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<v Speaker 1>and I still do that to this date in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes in our household, we sit down and write down

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<v Speaker 1>our goals. Are we like, like you said the observation exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a real thing because that's also kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>you dealing with things. That's also like if you need

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<v Speaker 1>to heal, you can like cathartic. It's it's a cathartic,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's healthy and you're working on yourself. Yeah, you're up. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't show me how to do that level up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah yeah. On the next Red Table Talk, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>asked a lot was your infidelity in your relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>will world renowned couple therapists A stair Parrel comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the Red Table. So you've been really instrumental in my marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Monogamy used to be one person for life. Today monogamy

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<v Speaker 1>is one person in the circumstances where I was the cheater.

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<v Speaker 1>I was always looking for something. Yes. Plus, our Urtt

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<v Speaker 1>family opens up sometimes you just don't know what's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Group, bring real quick. I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>her out here. Don't worries exactly, girl, I didn't want

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