WEBVTT - 9021One on One: Pepper Sweeney 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:12.040 With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Okay, you guys, uh, 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:16.160 we have Pepper Sweeney coming on today and he played 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:21.239 my love interest let Musky Slopes Chad in the Big 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.640 Skip episode. Why did I say it like that? Because 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:32.159 you're hot for Chad? He's hot? Hi? Hi, Pepper Sweeney spelling. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:38.960 Oh my gosh, what about me? Hello, Jenny Carth? I 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.040 eat out with him? Like, come on, I know I'm 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:47.160 a third wheel here. So you were literally, I want 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.400 to say, my third kiss on television ever, but you 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:54.720 were actually my second, only my second open mouth kiss. 0:00:55.000 --> 0:01:00.080 What yep? Wait, you remember it was open mouth? Do 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:06.040 you watch that scene? Oh? Yeah, yeah? So how was it? Pepper? 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:13.399 It was as good as advertised. She's got very soft lips. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:17.240 Stop it, stop it? Sorry, I have an eyepatch. I 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.240 what's going on? I got a little ulcer on my 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.400 eyeball from leaving my contacts, and so can you just 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.400 say I hurt my eye because I know too much 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.800 for me? It sounds gross, but I hate not telling 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:33.600 the truth, you know me? Okay? Um, I just skimmed 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:37.840 my eyeball. You played Chad Pepper in one episode in 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.560 season four, and we still remember you. So that was 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:44.200 so memory can you say that now? And it's nice 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.199 of you, But I listened to the episode a couple 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:50.080 of weeks ago where nobody knew who the hell I was. Nope, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.440 and everybody's looking at by IMDb pace figure out what 0:01:54.600 --> 0:02:02.120 I did. Bye, we see, Yeah, busy you've been now. Yes. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.840 One of the things that I was really excited about 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.840 when when your team contacted me is specifically Toria I. 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:15.280 I love to have the opportunity to tell you how 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:20.480 kind your father was to me. Um so, So the 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:22.440 first time I met him was in his office. I 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.799 was auditioning for a show he was producing called The 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:29.440 Round Table and um and so I was auditioning for 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:33.440 a series regular. We had a great connection, and he 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.359 brought me into network. And you guys know how, just 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.679 like frightening and anxiety provoking, going into network is like 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.600 you sign a contract before you go in and do 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:47.080 the audition. And so to me back then, those numbers 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.679 were huge, life changing numbers. And you're then sitting in 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.840 a room with people that want are competing with you, 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.000 and it's just this whole weird dynamic. So I stepped 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.799 out into the hall before we go into network and 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.280 your day comes walking and he makes it a bee 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:05.160 line to me and he says, Pepper, I want to 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.280 tell you something. He said, I don't usually do this, 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.560 but we're not bringing anybody else in for this part. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.440 He said, I want you to have this role, so 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.280 just do your best and don't worry about it. You 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.919 got this, and it relaxed to me. I was so 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.600 anxious before that. It relaxed me so much. How old 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:29.720 are you, man, gosh, twenties seven something like that, and 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.239 you've been in the business a lot, did you have 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:37.440 a lot of experience at that point. So I moved 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:42.320 to La probably three years prior to that, and started. 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.320 I was very fortunately I started guest starting on stuff 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.680 right away, Like you know, I think my first guest 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.200 star was Major Dad. Do you guys remember that show 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.760 back in the nineties, and and so I had done 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.080 a fair amount of guest stars up to that point, 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.800 and but this was that was my first series regular 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.520 role that you know that I had landed, the first 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:07.680 pilot I had landed, I think, um and uh and 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.040 unfortunately went for about seven episodes. But it was a fantastic, 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.160 fantastic experience. And then you know, your Dad hired me 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.880 for some of his other shows as well, including trusting 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:21.440 me to have a romantic scene with his daughter, so 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:26.960 to make out with his only daughter. Yeah, yes, exactly exactly. 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:31.600 So he was terrific. So then he just offered you 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:37.040 this episode. Yeah so so they yeah so, and I, um, 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:41.800 you know, I look at the nineties were that area 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.960 period of time was was very busy time for me. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:46.839 You know, I was guest starting on tons of shows 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:51.200 and um, you know, I remember that time was having 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.160 like three changes of close in my car because I 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:54.880 would have so many auditions that him, and it was 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.520 it was an embarrassment of riches, you know for an 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.840 actor when I during that time. But I look at 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.360 my like I AMD page D I AMDB page or 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.440 my resume or something now. And there's so many shows 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.480 that I don't remember, but I have very very vivid 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.640 remember remember its memory of this, of this particular show 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.680 that doing in this gift star tell us tell us all. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:18.760 I don't know if I can tell you all, but 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.720 I can't tell well, there were a few things that 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.440 were yeah, a little strange and a little you know, 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:32.440 um yeah, like who like what they like? Okay, like 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:34.800 the very first day that we were on the set, 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:39.920 um Tory and I and the director were standing and 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:41.680 we were talking about what the scene was going to 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.560 be and all this kind of stuff, and out of 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.720 the corner of my eye, I see somebody coming towards me. 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:52.200 I look over and it's Shan Dardi with a ython 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:59.320 around her neck, a live snake. Yep, I trust me, 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:08.400 And she says, spears never heard that before this before Wow, 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.480 she didn't create that. Look who knew. Listen. She she 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.080 was really upset with the director from the previous week's episode, 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:20.280 and in no uncertain terms, she came up and she 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.720 just kind of unloaded on this guy, telling him that 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.520 she was not going to put up with that what 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.520 had happened to her last week. And she said it 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.000 in a way that was so colorful that I can't 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.000 I literally could not repeat it to you right now, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:40.440 whilst wearing the while wearing a python. I can't, I can't. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.480 I just so I just looked at her and I said, 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.240 I just looked at her and I said, uh, hi, 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:51.440 I'm Pepper what And that's how it started. The whole 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:55.760 week was amazing. It was off to a start. Um, 0:06:56.200 --> 0:07:00.880 oh my gosh, I'm just imagine me again at that age. 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.360 I already was like this cute guy and shy and 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.840 having to like make out with them, nervous, and then 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.480 that happened. I must have been like inside, like you 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.080 you get the best story award for sure, that was 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.480 a good one. Ever, honestly, tore you could not have 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.760 been kinder, You could not have been sweeter to work 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:25.000 with and accommodating. And we had actually had several conversations. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.640 Like I said, there's a lot of shows I don't remember, 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.840 but this one we had. We went outside between between scenes, 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.320 we had several conversations. You told me about the guy 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.160 you were dating at the time, and uh told me 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.200 how you like bad boys, which I think is very 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:42.040 funny now. But yeah, you told me all this. We 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.520 had great conversations. So so yeah, it was was I 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.160 saying bad or good things at that point about the 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.920 guy I was dating? Yeah, you were? It was sort 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.280 of both. Yeah, it was you know, I don't know why, 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.120 I like, I'm attracted to these guys, and you know, 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.840 did you give me advice? I probably did. I was. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:05.680 I was newly married at the time that we recorded this, 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:10.200 so I think you were interested in that and um, yeah, 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.200 so we had we had a great conversation. So did 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.440 you guys talk about the kiss before you had to 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.440 do the kiss or do you like rehearse it? How 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.000 did it happen? Yeah, we talked about it a little 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.160 bit and um, you know, and then we just kind 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:29.280 of dove in. Good Man, good man, it looks really good. 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.640 I was like, we kissed. Well, yeah, right, I thought so, 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.520 I thought, so, yeah, Um, do you remember who the 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.520 director was in this episode? And was he somebody that 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:48.040 worked on the show often? Good question guy. Yeah, So 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.120 you know when you're when you're a guest on a show, 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:57.199 you're you're a guest and in kind of like it's 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.200 it's I was liking it to being a guest, um 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.360 in someone's house, right, I mean, it's it's not your house. Um. 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:10.839 You you you act appropriately, you and you know you're 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.959 always trying to for me. I was always trying to 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.240 please the director. So that's you know, you come and 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.319 trust me, Like, Okay, what this guy says, that's what 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:21.920 I That's what I've got to figure out. And that's 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.680 what I've got to I've got to give to the show, 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.599 of course, and I gotta be honest, I didn't. I 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:34.840 didn't care for him. Oh yeah, he could be polarizing 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.720 because he was our buddy, Like we loved him because 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.440 he was fun. He was like that fun friend guy 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.440 as coming onto A said, and if you're like trying 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.480 to be professional, he was like very like one of 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:51.679 the gangs. Ha not Yeah, so I could see that. 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.840 But Shannon saying that to him, this wasn't first rodeo 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.319 with us right now. That's probably why she's said that 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.760 stuff to him, because she felt so comfortable talking to 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.960 him that way because he had energy. Yeah, like their friend. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:14.160 Yeah yeah, why didn't you like in Pepper? Um? I 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:22.240 just I you know, um. He he said some things, 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.360 um that I just didn't appreciate. He said some things 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.880 that I just didn't appreciate. Um. So I felt like 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.840 I felt like he was if you okay, so don't 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.719 don't use this if you don't want But I felt like, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.520 because like I said, I come and wanted to trust 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:45.520 the director, and he would say one thing when you 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.599 were in the room, Tory, and you would leave and 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.640 it was a whole other thing. And I just thought, Okay, 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.319 if he's talking this way about one of the stars, 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:59.280 of the show. I don't know how to how to trust. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.800 I mean, that's the thing in this business. Whoa can 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:06.600 you tell us? I'm just curious, do you remember? Yeah, 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:10.079 we wouldn't know now. Well, so it would be like, okay, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.920 this is literally him talking. He'd be like, okay, dog, 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.280 all this scene with you and him in a fireplace, 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.760 you got to put this on your wheel. It's beautiful you. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.560 You are so great in this dollar You're so awesome, 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.160 You're so terrific. And then you would leave the room 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:29.960 and he would say I don't know why and stuff 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:34.400 like that, whoa wow. Yeah, And so I was like, okay, 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:38.559 what am I I go from? It starts with Shannon, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:44.240 but what a day at work? This? And then yeah, yeah, 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:49.400 So I felt very pective and the whole shoot, um, 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.400 and I could and I could have been reading that wrong, 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:55.120 and it could have been something that you guys, you know, um, 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.760 you guys had different relationship that I didn't know about 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.920 or or whatever. I can imagine him, I can imagine 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.719 him saying something like that because and like screaming it 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.440 when you left the room, like yeah, when somebody gets 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.720 too comfortable or like thinks that they have too much 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.959 power somewhere. That's not cool though, man, So you know it, 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.079 it sets you. It set me up in a situation 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.800 where honestly, I just felt like, Okay, I mean, you 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.400 didn't need my protection, you're a strong woman, all those 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.160 kind of things. I honestly um, but I just felt 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.599 this sense of thank you want to protect you in 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.199 the Oh my gosh, I'm like so embarrassed for my 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.559 like eighteen year old or ninety year old whatever I 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:43.640 was self in that moment that like, good thing I 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.480 didn't know about that, and no one told me because 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.880 that would have destroyed me at the time. Like it's 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.679 it's like I'm tearing up now hearing it, Like I 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.800 can take it. At forty nine, I can take it, 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.400 and I've taken a lot, but just like it bums 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.040 me out because that's the epitome of what I worked 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.319 so hard against, is being that person that was like, 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.679 oh she in the show producer's daughter, like and I 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:11.440 thought I overcame. That's ye, yeah, that's like and also 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.640 in front of my leading me on, like that's just hurtful, 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.280 and like, yeah, I would have been so mortified. I 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:22.240 wouldn't have been able to like even to a professional. Well, yeah, 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.319 and I could see where it was no, no, no, 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.320 I can take anything. She know, like my best friends, 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.000 Like I know, I love the truth and I can 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.720 take it and process it and but it's okay at 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:38.920 the feels. Yeah, yeah, so it was that was the 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.960 that was sort of the stage for for Um, I'm 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.480 sorry that you were put in that position, but I 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.719 felt like we had a night. I felt yeah, I 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.240 loved our stuff together. I felt like we did good work. 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:56.800 I was proud of what we did. And um, you know, 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:01.160 sometimes sometimes when you have aples that you have to overcome, 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.920 you know, if the works even better than it would 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:22.120 have been otherwise. So yeah, I love the scenes. I 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.800 was a fan and I thought you guys were so tender, 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.840 and I know, I really liked it because all we 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.400 know is like Donna with David and he's such a 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.080 little boy. Really, you know, I wanted to see her 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.880 be appreciated by my Chad was like a man, and 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.760 like it was nice to see forget the adoration. Yeah, 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:45.440 did you like the ski sweater though that you were wearing? 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:53.280 Your turn action machines were really tight. Well, so let's 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:58.560 enough about that show. You've done so much other great work. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.560 But now you've been doing a lit I mean, you've 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.920 been doing a lot of voiceover work. We've heard that 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.680 you were on maybe something people will know, a little 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:11.600 movie called Frozen. You're in that one didn't two? Yeah? Yeah, 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:16.040 it's pretty and Frozen one and two. So um, you know, 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.240 my my I had um like I said, I was, 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.280 I was newly married at this at this point when 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.240 the when nine or two and was recorded, so, you know, 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.760 and I worked a ton of the nineties and guests, 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.720 starting on a bunch of shows and everything. And then 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.800 I was just following the money, right because you you know, 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.280 I got a mortgage and I got a family, and 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:38.840 so I started doing more of the voiceover stuff, a 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.160 lot of uh. As a matter of fact, I built 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:45.720 this room here so I could do adr remotely. So 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.440 I still do. I still do some of that, um 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:52.600 and yeah. So the voiceover thing has been you know, 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.440 kept my family in insurance and and all those things 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.760 for all this all these years, and so it's you 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.280 had to work from home and I get to work 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.600 from home exactly. Sorry, I'm gonna have to tell my kids, 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.480 who did you play in? Whose voice? And Frozen? So 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.280 I did a bunch of different things. Okay, okay, tell 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.720 us like I came in for like three days and 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.960 just we I did a bunch of group stuff and 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.280 did a bunch of little individual things like, um, trying 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:25.520 to like the guy in a hot tub the dad Yes, yes, exactly, um, 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:29.880 and then uh um, a lot of just different towns 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:31.760 with people with some troll stuff we did from singing 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.160 with the trolls and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.840 it was fun. It was fun. Those those jobs are always, um, 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.720 a lot of fun to do, you know. That stuff 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.000 I was doing when I was still like frozen and 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.280 those things we were in person for all those COVID 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:52.440 hit everybody was working remotely. Um. I've tried to maintain 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:56.520 some of that remote work. Can you can you can 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:01.200 you do one of your favorite voices for us? Well, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:09.119 I mean it's it's dance mokey. It's really no, no, 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.359 it's really after everything you've confided in us, come on, 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.720 you can do it. But it's really like the way 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.520 that the way that I work with in these kind 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.560 of things is like you you, um, you see the 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:23.600 character on screen and you figure out what kind of 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.240 voice gets in there, and then you do it, so 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.160 for me to like go back and just create a voice. Now, 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.280 as as good as that would be for your podcast, 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:36.280 it doesn't. It just understands it doesn't work. That's okay. 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.119 I just thought i'd try. We can, I can. I 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.920 ask just curious how it works differently voicing like a movie, 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:49.560 TV show, animated series all that versus a game versus 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:56.200 a game transforms okay, yeah, yeah, um yeah, so uh, 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:58.960 you know, with with a lot of the game stuff 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.320 that I've done over the years, it's like, um, I 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.800 did a bunch of the uh gosh, I forget that 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:11.879 the military games to um, and it's just like basically 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:17.239 days of UM shouting out different commands really so they 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.040 can fill in wherever they want, okay. And when you're 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:25.960 doing you know, TV or or a movie or anything 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.879 like that, it's much more like um, you know, you 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.200 watch the scene and then you you fill in okay, 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:34.840 and and you know, some some of the stuff that 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.480 we did on Frozen, the animation wasn't done yet, and 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.520 so you know a lot of times you go in 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.000 when it's animated film and the animation isn't done, and 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.560 so they'll just have storyboard and stuff going for you 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:45.960 and you just have to kind of figure it out. 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:49.280 I do a lot of voice over at work, and 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.280 I've never gotten a game though, so I'm just fascinated 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.600 by that, Like, yeah, yeah, it's a game. Game stuff 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.479 is is fun. It's but it can be a lot 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.159 of like like I did like three Days of Cops 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.240 stuff on one of the one of the one of 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.119 the games, and it was just like command after command 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.200 in different situations and they tell you what the situation 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.280 is going to be and then you're just lives forever. 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:16.440 People just this is like exactly, and there's so many 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.320 scenarios that can happen in those things, and so we 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.240 got to have some of the covers pretty much anything 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:35.879 that happened. So cool. Yeah, it's fun. Wait, so you 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:41.000 worked with Bert Reynolds in two shows, so so yeah, 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.879 so Bert was sort of my mentor. I apprenticed the 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.919 Burt Reyld's Theater in Florida Attacott when I graduated from college, 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:50.120 and I went down and was one of twelve people 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.160 picked to be in the Apprentice of the Theater program 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.040 for a year and the years changed my life. It 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.840 was um, I made some of the best friends in 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.000 my life. I you know, it was a situation where 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.200 you're doing nothing, but we had we worked for, we 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.680 worked for. It was a year. We had two days 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.240 off in the year, and you worked from like eight 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:13.520 in the morning until whatever show you were like, they 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.200 would have live shows going into theater, you would you 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.160 would tack or do whatever you had they with a theater, 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.879 and then after that you would have classes with the 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.439 actors that they brought in or the directors as they 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:25.040 brought it. So you'd be doing classes to like two 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.760 or three in the morning, and then of course you'd 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:30.600 had the party for a while before, you know, so 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.080 you literally got no sleep for a full year, and 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.080 you were just learning all throughout the year. So Bert, 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.840 that's I met him down there at his theater and 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:44.960 then I got my SAG card doing a show that 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:48.600 he was doing. That He was so gracious talk about 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:50.960 being good to a young actors. I mean he got 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.199 us all, everybody, all twelve of us are SAG cards 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:59.480 and our equity cards during that year. And then he 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.960 asked me to audition for the part of his son 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.480 on a TV show he was doing called Evening Shade, 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:11.359 and he said, you're too old for it. Marilyn Henderson 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.960 never gonna go for you being her son, but I 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.000 want everybody to meet you and everything. So I went 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.240 on an audition to be his son. Meanwhile, I was 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:22.679 working as a singing waiter at the Moonlight Tango Cafe 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:26.080 in the Valley. I can't sing a lick, and so 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:30.439 that was my that was my night job. So Bert 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:32.840 called me it. So I went on and did the audition. 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:34.560 I didn't get it, but he said, I want you 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:36.920 to come and just just help me with my lines 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:40.240 for a week. So I put in a week's vacation 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:44.000 and at the restaurant and I went to the set 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.040 and I never went back, and I worked on that 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:53.080 show evening shade. I worked on it for I guess 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.200 three seasons and then I went into the round table 0:21:55.520 --> 0:22:00.119 and then I came back and finished. And the one 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:03.760 thing that was happening on that show was I was 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.520 getting like nine or ten ideas in every episode. Like 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:09.920 I would say Bert, what do you think about this? 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:12.000 About this camera angle? What do you think about this joke? 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:15.639 And he would either say yes or he would say no. 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:18.280 And this is why. So it was like being paid 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.920 to go to film school, and I'm working with all 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:24.720 these actors are working, so I'm covering everybody. It's Charles Journey, 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:31.000 Michael Jeter, Elizabeth Ashley, Burt Reynolds, how Holbrook. Um, you 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:36.200 know this amazing cast of Tony Award winner winners that 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:40.800 were just all, you know, helping teach this young kid 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:48.880 how to hone's cry. And Bert was just an amazing 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:54.280 mentor and friend to me. And um we were as 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:56.760 a matter of fact, so I was getting so many 0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:58.320 ideas in the shows, and he was teaching me so 0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:03.080 much that he I had gone to a film festival 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:06.760 with him on the East Coast and we were driving 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:08.400 and he said, I brought you something, and he reached 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.200 into his bag and he pulled out and it was 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:12.399 I wish I had it right here. I have it 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:16.280 at my other desk. It was a viewfinder and he 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:20.000 said he told me who gave it to him. And 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:23.399 the name has escaped me right now. He's Oh, Bill Freaker. 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:25.520 He said, Bill Freaker gave me this when he thought 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:28.680 I was ready. He said, you're ready. I've already talked 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.320 to the producers. I thought, to the CBS, you're directing 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:36.000 three three episodes next season. Oh my gosh, right. Yeah, 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:39.920 we didn't come back to the next season, right, But 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.320 but it changed the tra director of my life. When 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:44.399 you have somebody that can imagine your future for you 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.159 like that, it can that believes in you like that. 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:51.200 So I started directing theater at that point, and I 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:53.600 became artistic director of the of the Actress co Op 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:55.680 there in Hollywood for a couple of years, and I 0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:01.359 I then got into producing and driving a live events, 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:04.560 which I still do a lot of now. Um. And 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.200 it really did change that. His confidence that he had 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.440 in me and then he showed in me really really 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.440 did impact my life in a huge way. And as 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.680 a matter of fact, he also talked about Tory, how 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:20.240 much your father loved actors. He loved your dad. My 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:25.000