Speaker 1: With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Okay, you guys, uh,
Speaker 1: we have Pepper Sweeney coming on today and he played
Speaker 1: my love interest let Musky Slopes Chad in the Big
Speaker 1: Skip episode. Why did I say it like that? Because
Speaker 1: you're hot for Chad? He's hot? Hi? Hi, Pepper Sweeney spelling.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what about me? Hello, Jenny Carth? I
Speaker 1: eat out with him? Like, come on, I know I'm
Speaker 1: a third wheel here. So you were literally, I want
Speaker 1: to say, my third kiss on television ever, but you
Speaker 1: were actually my second, only my second open mouth kiss.
Speaker 1: What yep? Wait, you remember it was open mouth? Do
Speaker 1: you watch that scene? Oh? Yeah, yeah? So how was it? Pepper?
Speaker 1: It was as good as advertised. She's got very soft lips.
Speaker 1: Stop it, stop it? Sorry, I have an eyepatch. I
Speaker 1: what's going on? I got a little ulcer on my
Speaker 1: eyeball from leaving my contacts, and so can you just
Speaker 1: say I hurt my eye because I know too much
Speaker 1: for me? It sounds gross, but I hate not telling
Speaker 1: the truth, you know me? Okay? Um, I just skimmed
Speaker 1: my eyeball. You played Chad Pepper in one episode in
Speaker 1: season four, and we still remember you. So that was
Speaker 1: so memory can you say that now? And it's nice
Speaker 1: of you, But I listened to the episode a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago where nobody knew who the hell I was. Nope,
Speaker 1: and everybody's looking at by IMDb pace figure out what
Speaker 1: I did. Bye, we see, Yeah, busy you've been now. Yes.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I was really excited about
Speaker 1: when when your team contacted me is specifically Toria I.
Speaker 1: I love to have the opportunity to tell you how
Speaker 1: kind your father was to me. Um so, So the
Speaker 1: first time I met him was in his office. I
Speaker 1: was auditioning for a show he was producing called The
Speaker 1: Round Table and um and so I was auditioning for
Speaker 1: a series regular. We had a great connection, and he
Speaker 1: brought me into network. And you guys know how, just
Speaker 1: like frightening and anxiety provoking, going into network is like
Speaker 1: you sign a contract before you go in and do
Speaker 1: the audition. And so to me back then, those numbers
Speaker 1: were huge, life changing numbers. And you're then sitting in
Speaker 1: a room with people that want are competing with you,
Speaker 1: and it's just this whole weird dynamic. So I stepped
Speaker 1: out into the hall before we go into network and
Speaker 1: your day comes walking and he makes it a bee
Speaker 1: line to me and he says, Pepper, I want to
Speaker 1: tell you something. He said, I don't usually do this,
Speaker 1: but we're not bringing anybody else in for this part.
Speaker 1: He said, I want you to have this role, so
Speaker 1: just do your best and don't worry about it. You
Speaker 1: got this, and it relaxed to me. I was so
Speaker 1: anxious before that. It relaxed me so much. How old
Speaker 1: are you, man, gosh, twenties seven something like that, and
Speaker 1: you've been in the business a lot, did you have
Speaker 1: a lot of experience at that point. So I moved
Speaker 1: to La probably three years prior to that, and started.
Speaker 1: I was very fortunately I started guest starting on stuff
Speaker 1: right away, Like you know, I think my first guest
Speaker 1: star was Major Dad. Do you guys remember that show
Speaker 1: back in the nineties, and and so I had done
Speaker 1: a fair amount of guest stars up to that point,
Speaker 1: and but this was that was my first series regular
Speaker 1: role that you know that I had landed, the first
Speaker 1: pilot I had landed, I think, um and uh and
Speaker 1: unfortunately went for about seven episodes. But it was a fantastic,
Speaker 1: fantastic experience. And then you know, your Dad hired me
Speaker 1: for some of his other shows as well, including trusting
Speaker 1: me to have a romantic scene with his daughter, so
Speaker 1: to make out with his only daughter. Yeah, yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: So he was terrific. So then he just offered you
Speaker 1: this episode. Yeah so so they yeah so, and I, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I look at the nineties were that area
Speaker 1: period of time was was very busy time for me.
Speaker 1: You know, I was guest starting on tons of shows
Speaker 1: and um, you know, I remember that time was having
Speaker 1: like three changes of close in my car because I
Speaker 1: would have so many auditions that him, and it was
Speaker 1: it was an embarrassment of riches, you know for an
Speaker 1: actor when I during that time. But I look at
Speaker 1: my like I AMD page D I AMDB page or
Speaker 1: my resume or something now. And there's so many shows
Speaker 1: that I don't remember, but I have very very vivid
Speaker 1: remember remember its memory of this, of this particular show
Speaker 1: that doing in this gift star tell us tell us all.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can tell you all, but
Speaker 1: I can't tell well, there were a few things that
Speaker 1: were yeah, a little strange and a little you know,
Speaker 1: um yeah, like who like what they like? Okay, like
Speaker 1: the very first day that we were on the set,
Speaker 1: um Tory and I and the director were standing and
Speaker 1: we were talking about what the scene was going to
Speaker 1: be and all this kind of stuff, and out of
Speaker 1: the corner of my eye, I see somebody coming towards me.
Speaker 1: I look over and it's Shan Dardi with a ython
Speaker 1: around her neck, a live snake. Yep, I trust me,
Speaker 1: And she says, spears never heard that before this before Wow,
Speaker 1: she didn't create that. Look who knew. Listen. She she
Speaker 1: was really upset with the director from the previous week's episode,
Speaker 1: and in no uncertain terms, she came up and she
Speaker 1: just kind of unloaded on this guy, telling him that
Speaker 1: she was not going to put up with that what
Speaker 1: had happened to her last week. And she said it
Speaker 1: in a way that was so colorful that I can't
Speaker 1: I literally could not repeat it to you right now,
Speaker 1: whilst wearing the while wearing a python. I can't, I can't.
Speaker 1: I just so I just looked at her and I said,
Speaker 1: I just looked at her and I said, uh, hi,
Speaker 1: I'm Pepper what And that's how it started. The whole
Speaker 1: week was amazing. It was off to a start. Um,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm just imagine me again at that age.
Speaker 1: I already was like this cute guy and shy and
Speaker 1: having to like make out with them, nervous, and then
Speaker 1: that happened. I must have been like inside, like you
Speaker 1: you get the best story award for sure, that was
Speaker 1: a good one. Ever, honestly, tore you could not have
Speaker 1: been kinder, You could not have been sweeter to work
Speaker 1: with and accommodating. And we had actually had several conversations.
Speaker 1: Like I said, there's a lot of shows I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but this one we had. We went outside between between scenes,
Speaker 1: we had several conversations. You told me about the guy
Speaker 1: you were dating at the time, and uh told me
Speaker 1: how you like bad boys, which I think is very
Speaker 1: funny now. But yeah, you told me all this. We
Speaker 1: had great conversations. So so yeah, it was was I
Speaker 1: saying bad or good things at that point about the
Speaker 1: guy I was dating? Yeah, you were? It was sort
Speaker 1: of both. Yeah, it was you know, I don't know why,
Speaker 1: I like, I'm attracted to these guys, and you know,
Speaker 1: did you give me advice? I probably did. I was.
Speaker 1: I was newly married at the time that we recorded this,
Speaker 1: so I think you were interested in that and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: so we had we had a great conversation. So did
Speaker 1: you guys talk about the kiss before you had to
Speaker 1: do the kiss or do you like rehearse it? How
Speaker 1: did it happen? Yeah, we talked about it a little
Speaker 1: bit and um, you know, and then we just kind
Speaker 1: of dove in. Good Man, good man, it looks really good.
Speaker 1: I was like, we kissed. Well, yeah, right, I thought so,
Speaker 1: I thought, so, yeah, Um, do you remember who the
Speaker 1: director was in this episode? And was he somebody that
Speaker 1: worked on the show often? Good question guy. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: you know when you're when you're a guest on a show,
Speaker 1: you're you're a guest and in kind of like it's
Speaker 1: it's I was liking it to being a guest, um
Speaker 1: in someone's house, right, I mean, it's it's not your house. Um.
Speaker 1: You you you act appropriately, you and you know you're
Speaker 1: always trying to for me. I was always trying to
Speaker 1: please the director. So that's you know, you come and
Speaker 1: trust me, Like, Okay, what this guy says, that's what
Speaker 1: I That's what I've got to figure out. And that's
Speaker 1: what I've got to I've got to give to the show,
Speaker 1: of course, and I gotta be honest, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't care for him. Oh yeah, he could be polarizing
Speaker 1: because he was our buddy, Like we loved him because
Speaker 1: he was fun. He was like that fun friend guy
Speaker 1: as coming onto A said, and if you're like trying
Speaker 1: to be professional, he was like very like one of
Speaker 1: the gangs. Ha not Yeah, so I could see that.
Speaker 1: But Shannon saying that to him, this wasn't first rodeo
Speaker 1: with us right now. That's probably why she's said that
Speaker 1: stuff to him, because she felt so comfortable talking to
Speaker 1: him that way because he had energy. Yeah, like their friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, why didn't you like in Pepper? Um? I
Speaker 1: just I you know, um. He he said some things,
Speaker 1: um that I just didn't appreciate. He said some things
Speaker 1: that I just didn't appreciate. Um. So I felt like
Speaker 1: I felt like he was if you okay, so don't
Speaker 1: don't use this if you don't want But I felt like,
Speaker 1: because like I said, I come and wanted to trust
Speaker 1: the director, and he would say one thing when you
Speaker 1: were in the room, Tory, and you would leave and
Speaker 1: it was a whole other thing. And I just thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: if he's talking this way about one of the stars,
Speaker 1: of the show. I don't know how to how to trust.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing in this business. Whoa can
Speaker 1: you tell us? I'm just curious, do you remember? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't know now. Well, so it would be like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is literally him talking. He'd be like, okay, dog,
Speaker 1: all this scene with you and him in a fireplace,
Speaker 1: you got to put this on your wheel. It's beautiful you.
Speaker 1: You are so great in this dollar You're so awesome,
Speaker 1: You're so terrific. And then you would leave the room
Speaker 1: and he would say I don't know why and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, whoa wow. Yeah, And so I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: what am I I go from? It starts with Shannon,
Speaker 1: but what a day at work? This? And then yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I felt very pective and the whole shoot, um,
Speaker 1: and I could and I could have been reading that wrong,
Speaker 1: and it could have been something that you guys, you know, um,
Speaker 1: you guys had different relationship that I didn't know about
Speaker 1: or or whatever. I can imagine him, I can imagine
Speaker 1: him saying something like that because and like screaming it
Speaker 1: when you left the room, like yeah, when somebody gets
Speaker 1: too comfortable or like thinks that they have too much
Speaker 1: power somewhere. That's not cool though, man, So you know it,
Speaker 1: it sets you. It set me up in a situation
Speaker 1: where honestly, I just felt like, Okay, I mean, you
Speaker 1: didn't need my protection, you're a strong woman, all those
Speaker 1: kind of things. I honestly um, but I just felt
Speaker 1: this sense of thank you want to protect you in
Speaker 1: the Oh my gosh, I'm like so embarrassed for my
Speaker 1: like eighteen year old or ninety year old whatever I
Speaker 1: was self in that moment that like, good thing I
Speaker 1: didn't know about that, and no one told me because
Speaker 1: that would have destroyed me at the time. Like it's
Speaker 1: it's like I'm tearing up now hearing it, Like I
Speaker 1: can take it. At forty nine, I can take it,
Speaker 1: and I've taken a lot, but just like it bums
Speaker 1: me out because that's the epitome of what I worked
Speaker 1: so hard against, is being that person that was like,
Speaker 1: oh she in the show producer's daughter, like and I
Speaker 1: thought I overcame. That's ye, yeah, that's like and also
Speaker 1: in front of my leading me on, like that's just hurtful,
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I would have been so mortified. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to like even to a professional. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I could see where it was no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I can take anything. She know, like my best friends,
Speaker 1: Like I know, I love the truth and I can
Speaker 1: take it and process it and but it's okay at
Speaker 1: the feels. Yeah, yeah, so it was that was the
Speaker 1: that was sort of the stage for for Um, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that you were put in that position, but I
Speaker 1: felt like we had a night. I felt yeah, I
Speaker 1: loved our stuff together. I felt like we did good work.
Speaker 1: I was proud of what we did. And um, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes when you have aples that you have to overcome,
Speaker 1: you know, if the works even better than it would
Speaker 1: have been otherwise. So yeah, I love the scenes. I
Speaker 1: was a fan and I thought you guys were so tender,
Speaker 1: and I know, I really liked it because all we
Speaker 1: know is like Donna with David and he's such a
Speaker 1: little boy. Really, you know, I wanted to see her
Speaker 1: be appreciated by my Chad was like a man, and
Speaker 1: like it was nice to see forget the adoration. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you like the ski sweater though that you were wearing?
Speaker 1: Your turn action machines were really tight. Well, so let's
Speaker 1: enough about that show. You've done so much other great work.
Speaker 1: But now you've been doing a lit I mean, you've
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of voiceover work. We've heard that
Speaker 1: you were on maybe something people will know, a little
Speaker 1: movie called Frozen. You're in that one didn't two? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty and Frozen one and two. So um, you know,
Speaker 1: my my I had um like I said, I was,
Speaker 1: I was newly married at this at this point when
Speaker 1: the when nine or two and was recorded, so, you know,
Speaker 1: and I worked a ton of the nineties and guests,
Speaker 1: starting on a bunch of shows and everything. And then
Speaker 1: I was just following the money, right because you you know,
Speaker 1: I got a mortgage and I got a family, and
Speaker 1: so I started doing more of the voiceover stuff, a
Speaker 1: lot of uh. As a matter of fact, I built
Speaker 1: this room here so I could do adr remotely. So
Speaker 1: I still do. I still do some of that, um
Speaker 1: and yeah. So the voiceover thing has been you know,
Speaker 1: kept my family in insurance and and all those things
Speaker 1: for all this all these years, and so it's you
Speaker 1: had to work from home and I get to work
Speaker 1: from home exactly. Sorry, I'm gonna have to tell my kids,
Speaker 1: who did you play in? Whose voice? And Frozen? So
Speaker 1: I did a bunch of different things. Okay, okay, tell
Speaker 1: us like I came in for like three days and
Speaker 1: just we I did a bunch of group stuff and
Speaker 1: did a bunch of little individual things like, um, trying
Speaker 1: to like the guy in a hot tub the dad Yes, yes, exactly, um,
Speaker 1: and then uh um, a lot of just different towns
Speaker 1: with people with some troll stuff we did from singing
Speaker 1: with the trolls and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was fun. It was fun. Those those jobs are always, um,
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to do, you know. That stuff
Speaker 1: I was doing when I was still like frozen and
Speaker 1: those things we were in person for all those COVID
Speaker 1: hit everybody was working remotely. Um. I've tried to maintain
Speaker 1: some of that remote work. Can you can you can
Speaker 1: you do one of your favorite voices for us? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's dance mokey. It's really no, no,
Speaker 1: it's really after everything you've confided in us, come on,
Speaker 1: you can do it. But it's really like the way
Speaker 1: that the way that I work with in these kind
Speaker 1: of things is like you you, um, you see the
Speaker 1: character on screen and you figure out what kind of
Speaker 1: voice gets in there, and then you do it, so
Speaker 1: for me to like go back and just create a voice. Now,
Speaker 1: as as good as that would be for your podcast,
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It just understands it doesn't work. That's okay.
Speaker 1: I just thought i'd try. We can, I can. I
Speaker 1: ask just curious how it works differently voicing like a movie,
Speaker 1: TV show, animated series all that versus a game versus
Speaker 1: a game transforms okay, yeah, yeah, um yeah, so uh,
Speaker 1: you know, with with a lot of the game stuff
Speaker 1: that I've done over the years, it's like, um, I
Speaker 1: did a bunch of the uh gosh, I forget that
Speaker 1: the military games to um, and it's just like basically
Speaker 1: days of UM shouting out different commands really so they
Speaker 1: can fill in wherever they want, okay. And when you're
Speaker 1: doing you know, TV or or a movie or anything
Speaker 1: like that, it's much more like um, you know, you
Speaker 1: watch the scene and then you you fill in okay,
Speaker 1: and and you know, some some of the stuff that
Speaker 1: we did on Frozen, the animation wasn't done yet, and
Speaker 1: so you know a lot of times you go in
Speaker 1: when it's animated film and the animation isn't done, and
Speaker 1: so they'll just have storyboard and stuff going for you
Speaker 1: and you just have to kind of figure it out.
Speaker 1: I do a lot of voice over at work, and
Speaker 1: I've never gotten a game though, so I'm just fascinated
Speaker 1: by that, Like, yeah, yeah, it's a game. Game stuff
Speaker 1: is is fun. It's but it can be a lot
Speaker 1: of like like I did like three Days of Cops
Speaker 1: stuff on one of the one of the one of
Speaker 1: the games, and it was just like command after command
Speaker 1: in different situations and they tell you what the situation
Speaker 1: is going to be and then you're just lives forever.
Speaker 1: People just this is like exactly, and there's so many
Speaker 1: scenarios that can happen in those things, and so we
Speaker 1: got to have some of the covers pretty much anything
Speaker 1: that happened. So cool. Yeah, it's fun. Wait, so you
Speaker 1: worked with Bert Reynolds in two shows, so so yeah,
Speaker 1: so Bert was sort of my mentor. I apprenticed the
Speaker 1: Burt Reyld's Theater in Florida Attacott when I graduated from college,
Speaker 1: and I went down and was one of twelve people
Speaker 1: picked to be in the Apprentice of the Theater program
Speaker 1: for a year and the years changed my life. It
Speaker 1: was um, I made some of the best friends in
Speaker 1: my life. I you know, it was a situation where
Speaker 1: you're doing nothing, but we had we worked for, we
Speaker 1: worked for. It was a year. We had two days
Speaker 1: off in the year, and you worked from like eight
Speaker 1: in the morning until whatever show you were like, they
Speaker 1: would have live shows going into theater, you would you
Speaker 1: would tack or do whatever you had they with a theater,
Speaker 1: and then after that you would have classes with the
Speaker 1: actors that they brought in or the directors as they
Speaker 1: brought it. So you'd be doing classes to like two
Speaker 1: or three in the morning, and then of course you'd
Speaker 1: had the party for a while before, you know, so
Speaker 1: you literally got no sleep for a full year, and
Speaker 1: you were just learning all throughout the year. So Bert,
Speaker 1: that's I met him down there at his theater and
Speaker 1: then I got my SAG card doing a show that
Speaker 1: he was doing. That He was so gracious talk about
Speaker 1: being good to a young actors. I mean he got
Speaker 1: us all, everybody, all twelve of us are SAG cards
Speaker 1: and our equity cards during that year. And then he
Speaker 1: asked me to audition for the part of his son
Speaker 1: on a TV show he was doing called Evening Shade,
Speaker 1: and he said, you're too old for it. Marilyn Henderson
Speaker 1: never gonna go for you being her son, but I
Speaker 1: want everybody to meet you and everything. So I went
Speaker 1: on an audition to be his son. Meanwhile, I was
Speaker 1: working as a singing waiter at the Moonlight Tango Cafe
Speaker 1: in the Valley. I can't sing a lick, and so
Speaker 1: that was my that was my night job. So Bert
Speaker 1: called me it. So I went on and did the audition.
Speaker 1: I didn't get it, but he said, I want you
Speaker 1: to come and just just help me with my lines
Speaker 1: for a week. So I put in a week's vacation
Speaker 1: and at the restaurant and I went to the set
Speaker 1: and I never went back, and I worked on that
Speaker 1: show evening shade. I worked on it for I guess
Speaker 1: three seasons and then I went into the round table
Speaker 1: and then I came back and finished. And the one
Speaker 1: thing that was happening on that show was I was
Speaker 1: getting like nine or ten ideas in every episode. Like
Speaker 1: I would say Bert, what do you think about this?
Speaker 1: About this camera angle? What do you think about this joke?
Speaker 1: And he would either say yes or he would say no.
Speaker 1: And this is why. So it was like being paid
Speaker 1: to go to film school, and I'm working with all
Speaker 1: these actors are working, so I'm covering everybody. It's Charles Journey,
Speaker 1: Michael Jeter, Elizabeth Ashley, Burt Reynolds, how Holbrook. Um, you
Speaker 1: know this amazing cast of Tony Award winner winners that
Speaker 1: were just all, you know, helping teach this young kid
Speaker 1: how to hone's cry. And Bert was just an amazing
Speaker 1: mentor and friend to me. And um we were as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, so I was getting so many
Speaker 1: ideas in the shows, and he was teaching me so
Speaker 1: much that he I had gone to a film festival
Speaker 1: with him on the East Coast and we were driving
Speaker 1: and he said, I brought you something, and he reached
Speaker 1: into his bag and he pulled out and it was
Speaker 1: I wish I had it right here. I have it
Speaker 1: at my other desk. It was a viewfinder and he
Speaker 1: said he told me who gave it to him. And
Speaker 1: the name has escaped me right now. He's Oh, Bill Freaker.
Speaker 1: He said, Bill Freaker gave me this when he thought
Speaker 1: I was ready. He said, you're ready. I've already talked
Speaker 1: to the producers. I thought, to the CBS, you're directing
Speaker 1: three three episodes next season. Oh my gosh, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't come back to the next season, right, But
Speaker 1: but it changed the tra director of my life. When
Speaker 1: you have somebody that can imagine your future for you
Speaker 1: like that, it can that believes in you like that.
Speaker 1: So I started directing theater at that point, and I
Speaker 1: became artistic director of the of the Actress co Op
Speaker 1: there in Hollywood for a couple of years, and I
Speaker 1: I then got into producing and driving a live events,
Speaker 1: which I still do a lot of now. Um. And
Speaker 1: it really did change that. His confidence that he had
Speaker 1: in me and then he showed in me really really
Speaker 1: did impact my life in a huge way. And as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he also talked about Tory, how
Speaker 1: much your father loved actors. He loved your dad. My
Speaker 1: dad loved him, he said, he said, when you go
Speaker 1: Steamsters spelling, look behind his desk. There's a statue. It was, Um,
Speaker 1: I forgot the artist's name that did all the Western
Speaker 1: It was a cowboy on a horse and he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it sat behind his desk right there. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I forgot about that till just now I wonder where
Speaker 1: that is. Oh my gosh, yeah it was a Remington. Wow. Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, so bart was was was just
Speaker 1: really phenomenal to me over the years and so great
Speaker 1: just with his time and his love and his care
Speaker 1: and his you know, I mean he just really not
Speaker 1: just me. This is much more about him and it
Speaker 1: is about media. I mean he he did this for
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Um, and I can't say anything
Speaker 1: but great things about him, And um I miss him
Speaker 1: every day. They don't make them like that anymore, Burt Reynolds.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's a different time, sadly, it's different generation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that the world is not necessarily a
Speaker 1: better place that that, that that influence isn't here. So Tory,
Speaker 1: you have to carry it on, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: we have a we have a certain responsibility to carry
Speaker 1: that man. So I think so, you know, just for
Speaker 1: for the next generation so that they can extend. And
Speaker 1: I try we do our best. Yeah, exactly. He hadn't
Speaker 1: been great catching up with you. What we're amazing. Where
Speaker 1: Where are you working now? What are you working on
Speaker 1: right now? Where can people send you? You can't try,
Speaker 1: I won't tell you where. I am so so about
Speaker 1: I guess about twelve years ago, I moved my family
Speaker 1: back to Kentucky. I have three kids. They're grown kids.
Speaker 1: UM and my wife and I've been married about thirty
Speaker 1: one years now, and um we moved back here and
Speaker 1: I was still traveling back and forth to LA a
Speaker 1: couple of times in a month and then doing the
Speaker 1: remote thing. But um I UM I do. I work
Speaker 1: for a company now where I do UM we we
Speaker 1: try to amplify voices of mostly women who are trying
Speaker 1: to improve the world, make the world a better place.
Speaker 1: And so I am sort of the head of content
Speaker 1: for this company where we work with I work with
Speaker 1: authors and influencers and um and comedians and you know
Speaker 1: you name it um uh and so we I do
Speaker 1: live events, I do muh E courses with them. All
Speaker 1: the things that I've been doing that I did over
Speaker 1: the years, I'm I'm using the same tools to do
Speaker 1: what I do now. And that's been that's been really
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. I do a podcast with a friend of mine.
Speaker 1: His name is doctor Kurt Thompson. In the podcast is
Speaker 1: called the Being Known Podcast, and it is it is.
Speaker 1: Doctor Kurt Thompson talks about the idea of all of
Speaker 1: us coming into the world looking for someone who's looking
Speaker 1: for us. So Kurt Say, a psychiatrist who specializes in
Speaker 1: interpersonal neurobiology, which is how the brain and the body
Speaker 1: and mind are developed and how they function and change
Speaker 1: in the context of relationships with others throughout your life.
Speaker 1: And so this idea of coming into the world with
Speaker 1: someone looking for us, you know, we all experience that
Speaker 1: to varying degrees, and you know, a lot of us
Speaker 1: spend our lives making up for screpancy of you know,
Speaker 1: of that and of being known by others. So we
Speaker 1: can make up for that a lot of ways, some
Speaker 1: negative ways like addictions and affairs and shopping and food
Speaker 1: and whatever, all the other things, or we can make
Speaker 1: up for it in the for that discrepancy in the
Speaker 1: context of community and relationship, and the Being ONNED podcast
Speaker 1: provides the neuroscience behind this and the tools for creating
Speaker 1: a community so that we can tell our stories more truly.
Speaker 1: And when you're telling your story more truly, as you, guys, know,
Speaker 1: when you're being seen and known and loved, you know,
Speaker 1: you can live a much fuller life and and integrated
Speaker 1: the life that you know. You can have better relationship
Speaker 1: with your family and your kids and yourself and all
Speaker 1: the things and so that will work. That's just a
Speaker 1: little side gig that I like to do and I
Speaker 1: wanted Kurts work to get out there. I said, if
Speaker 1: we get four hundred listeners, I'll be that'll be a success.
Speaker 1: And you know, we just passed one point seven million.
Speaker 1: We're not we're not competing you guys and your numbers,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a big number for us. It's called
Speaker 1: the Being Known Podcast with doctor Kurt Thompson. Have a
Speaker 1: lot of fun on that. Everyone checked that out. I'm hooked.
Speaker 1: I'm going to check it out. You got me. I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'm in. Yeah. Is there a website
Speaker 1: people can go to for your courses? I they can
Speaker 1: go to Being Known podcast dot com. I see all
Speaker 1: the episodes and everything there. Um and wherever you find
Speaker 1: a your podcasts, we're out there as well. And um yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's it's been great catching up with the two
Speaker 1: of you. Thank you, you're amazing. Oh my gosh, oh gosh,
Speaker 1: please thank no disrespect to your wife. I'm so glad
Speaker 1: you're happily married for thirty one years and three beautiful kids.
Speaker 1: But gosh, the course of my life would have changed
Speaker 1: if you had been single. Then I had gone for
Speaker 1: a good guy instead of me talking about bad guys
Speaker 1: at the time when I was so young. I choose
Speaker 1: good guys now. But I'm saying back then, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I figured you do now, yes, Stinkler, Not back then
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have gone for me because you were way
Speaker 1: into the bad guys. Is very fine. No, thank you,
Speaker 1: Pepper for thank you today. You're amazing. Thank you for everything,
Speaker 1: all the best. Thank you, Bye back at you, bye
Speaker 1: bye bye.