1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Okay, you guys, uh, 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: we have Pepper Sweeney coming on today and he played 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: my love interest let Musky Slopes Chad in the Big 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: Skip episode. Why did I say it like that? Because 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: you're hot for Chad? He's hot? Hi? Hi, Pepper Sweeney spelling. 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what about me? Hello, Jenny Carth? I 7 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: eat out with him? Like, come on, I know I'm 8 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: a third wheel here. So you were literally, I want 9 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: to say, my third kiss on television ever, but you 10 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: were actually my second, only my second open mouth kiss. 11 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: What yep? Wait, you remember it was open mouth? Do 12 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: you watch that scene? Oh? Yeah, yeah? So how was it? Pepper? 13 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: It was as good as advertised. She's got very soft lips. 14 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Stop it, stop it? Sorry, I have an eyepatch. I 15 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: what's going on? I got a little ulcer on my 16 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: eyeball from leaving my contacts, and so can you just 17 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: say I hurt my eye because I know too much 18 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: for me? It sounds gross, but I hate not telling 19 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: the truth, you know me? Okay? Um, I just skimmed 20 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: my eyeball. You played Chad Pepper in one episode in 21 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: season four, and we still remember you. So that was 22 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: so memory can you say that now? And it's nice 23 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: of you, But I listened to the episode a couple 24 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: of weeks ago where nobody knew who the hell I was. Nope, 25 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: and everybody's looking at by IMDb pace figure out what 26 00:01:54,600 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: I did. Bye, we see, Yeah, busy you've been now. Yes. 27 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: One of the things that I was really excited about 28 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: when when your team contacted me is specifically Toria I. 29 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: I love to have the opportunity to tell you how 30 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: kind your father was to me. Um so, So the 31 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: first time I met him was in his office. I 32 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: was auditioning for a show he was producing called The 33 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: Round Table and um and so I was auditioning for 34 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: a series regular. We had a great connection, and he 35 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: brought me into network. And you guys know how, just 36 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: like frightening and anxiety provoking, going into network is like 37 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: you sign a contract before you go in and do 38 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: the audition. And so to me back then, those numbers 39 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: were huge, life changing numbers. And you're then sitting in 40 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: a room with people that want are competing with you, 41 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: and it's just this whole weird dynamic. So I stepped 42 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: out into the hall before we go into network and 43 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: your day comes walking and he makes it a bee 44 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: line to me and he says, Pepper, I want to 45 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: tell you something. He said, I don't usually do this, 46 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: but we're not bringing anybody else in for this part. 47 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: He said, I want you to have this role, so 48 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: just do your best and don't worry about it. You 49 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: got this, and it relaxed to me. I was so 50 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: anxious before that. It relaxed me so much. How old 51 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: are you, man, gosh, twenties seven something like that, and 52 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: you've been in the business a lot, did you have 53 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: a lot of experience at that point. So I moved 54 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: to La probably three years prior to that, and started. 55 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: I was very fortunately I started guest starting on stuff 56 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: right away, Like you know, I think my first guest 57 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: star was Major Dad. Do you guys remember that show 58 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: back in the nineties, and and so I had done 59 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: a fair amount of guest stars up to that point, 60 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: and but this was that was my first series regular 61 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: role that you know that I had landed, the first 62 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: pilot I had landed, I think, um and uh and 63 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: unfortunately went for about seven episodes. But it was a fantastic, 64 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: fantastic experience. And then you know, your Dad hired me 65 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: for some of his other shows as well, including trusting 66 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: me to have a romantic scene with his daughter, so 67 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: to make out with his only daughter. Yeah, yes, exactly exactly. 68 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: So he was terrific. So then he just offered you 69 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: this episode. Yeah so so they yeah so, and I, um, 70 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, I look at the nineties were that area 71 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: period of time was was very busy time for me. 72 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: You know, I was guest starting on tons of shows 73 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I remember that time was having 74 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: like three changes of close in my car because I 75 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: would have so many auditions that him, and it was 76 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: it was an embarrassment of riches, you know for an 77 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: actor when I during that time. But I look at 78 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: my like I AMD page D I AMDB page or 79 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: my resume or something now. And there's so many shows 80 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: that I don't remember, but I have very very vivid 81 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: remember remember its memory of this, of this particular show 82 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: that doing in this gift star tell us tell us all. 83 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can tell you all, but 84 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: I can't tell well, there were a few things that 85 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: were yeah, a little strange and a little you know, 86 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: um yeah, like who like what they like? Okay, like 87 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: the very first day that we were on the set, 88 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: um Tory and I and the director were standing and 89 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: we were talking about what the scene was going to 90 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: be and all this kind of stuff, and out of 91 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: the corner of my eye, I see somebody coming towards me. 92 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: I look over and it's Shan Dardi with a ython 93 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: around her neck, a live snake. Yep, I trust me, 94 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: And she says, spears never heard that before this before Wow, 95 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: she didn't create that. Look who knew. Listen. She she 96 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: was really upset with the director from the previous week's episode, 97 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: and in no uncertain terms, she came up and she 98 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: just kind of unloaded on this guy, telling him that 99 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: she was not going to put up with that what 100 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: had happened to her last week. And she said it 101 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: in a way that was so colorful that I can't 102 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: I literally could not repeat it to you right now, 103 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: whilst wearing the while wearing a python. I can't, I can't. 104 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: I just so I just looked at her and I said, 105 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: I just looked at her and I said, uh, hi, 106 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm Pepper what And that's how it started. The whole 107 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: week was amazing. It was off to a start. Um, 108 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm just imagine me again at that age. 109 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: I already was like this cute guy and shy and 110 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: having to like make out with them, nervous, and then 111 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: that happened. I must have been like inside, like you 112 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: you get the best story award for sure, that was 113 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: a good one. Ever, honestly, tore you could not have 114 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: been kinder, You could not have been sweeter to work 115 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: with and accommodating. And we had actually had several conversations. 116 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: Like I said, there's a lot of shows I don't remember, 117 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: but this one we had. We went outside between between scenes, 118 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: we had several conversations. You told me about the guy 119 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: you were dating at the time, and uh told me 120 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: how you like bad boys, which I think is very 121 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: funny now. But yeah, you told me all this. We 122 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: had great conversations. So so yeah, it was was I 123 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: saying bad or good things at that point about the 124 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: guy I was dating? Yeah, you were? It was sort 125 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: of both. Yeah, it was you know, I don't know why, 126 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: I like, I'm attracted to these guys, and you know, 127 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: did you give me advice? I probably did. I was. 128 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: I was newly married at the time that we recorded this, 129 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: so I think you were interested in that and um, yeah, 130 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: so we had we had a great conversation. So did 131 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: you guys talk about the kiss before you had to 132 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: do the kiss or do you like rehearse it? How 133 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: did it happen? Yeah, we talked about it a little 134 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: bit and um, you know, and then we just kind 135 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: of dove in. Good Man, good man, it looks really good. 136 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: I was like, we kissed. Well, yeah, right, I thought so, 137 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: I thought, so, yeah, Um, do you remember who the 138 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: director was in this episode? And was he somebody that 139 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: worked on the show often? Good question guy. Yeah, So 140 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: you know when you're when you're a guest on a show, 141 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: you're you're a guest and in kind of like it's 142 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: it's I was liking it to being a guest, um 143 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: in someone's house, right, I mean, it's it's not your house. Um. 144 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: You you you act appropriately, you and you know you're 145 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: always trying to for me. I was always trying to 146 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: please the director. So that's you know, you come and 147 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: trust me, Like, Okay, what this guy says, that's what 148 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: I That's what I've got to figure out. And that's 149 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: what I've got to I've got to give to the show, 150 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: of course, and I gotta be honest, I didn't. I 151 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: didn't care for him. Oh yeah, he could be polarizing 152 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: because he was our buddy, Like we loved him because 153 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: he was fun. He was like that fun friend guy 154 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: as coming onto A said, and if you're like trying 155 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: to be professional, he was like very like one of 156 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: the gangs. Ha not Yeah, so I could see that. 157 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: But Shannon saying that to him, this wasn't first rodeo 158 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: with us right now. That's probably why she's said that 159 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: stuff to him, because she felt so comfortable talking to 160 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: him that way because he had energy. Yeah, like their friend. 161 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, why didn't you like in Pepper? Um? I 162 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: just I you know, um. He he said some things, 163 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: um that I just didn't appreciate. He said some things 164 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: that I just didn't appreciate. Um. So I felt like 165 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: I felt like he was if you okay, so don't 166 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: don't use this if you don't want But I felt like, 167 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: because like I said, I come and wanted to trust 168 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: the director, and he would say one thing when you 169 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: were in the room, Tory, and you would leave and 170 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: it was a whole other thing. And I just thought, Okay, 171 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: if he's talking this way about one of the stars, 172 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: of the show. I don't know how to how to trust. 173 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing in this business. Whoa can 174 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: you tell us? I'm just curious, do you remember? Yeah, 175 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: we wouldn't know now. Well, so it would be like, okay, 176 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: this is literally him talking. He'd be like, okay, dog, 177 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: all this scene with you and him in a fireplace, 178 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: you got to put this on your wheel. It's beautiful you. 179 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: You are so great in this dollar You're so awesome, 180 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: You're so terrific. And then you would leave the room 181 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: and he would say I don't know why and stuff 182 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: like that, whoa wow. Yeah, And so I was like, okay, 183 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: what am I I go from? It starts with Shannon, 184 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: but what a day at work? This? And then yeah, yeah, 185 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: So I felt very pective and the whole shoot, um, 186 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: and I could and I could have been reading that wrong, 187 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: and it could have been something that you guys, you know, um, 188 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: you guys had different relationship that I didn't know about 189 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: or or whatever. I can imagine him, I can imagine 190 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: him saying something like that because and like screaming it 191 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: when you left the room, like yeah, when somebody gets 192 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: too comfortable or like thinks that they have too much 193 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: power somewhere. That's not cool though, man, So you know it, 194 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: it sets you. It set me up in a situation 195 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: where honestly, I just felt like, Okay, I mean, you 196 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: didn't need my protection, you're a strong woman, all those 197 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: kind of things. I honestly um, but I just felt 198 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,599 Speaker 1: this sense of thank you want to protect you in 199 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: the Oh my gosh, I'm like so embarrassed for my 200 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: like eighteen year old or ninety year old whatever I 201 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: was self in that moment that like, good thing I 202 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: didn't know about that, and no one told me because 203 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: that would have destroyed me at the time. Like it's 204 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: it's like I'm tearing up now hearing it, Like I 205 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: can take it. At forty nine, I can take it, 206 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: and I've taken a lot, but just like it bums 207 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: me out because that's the epitome of what I worked 208 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: so hard against, is being that person that was like, 209 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: oh she in the show producer's daughter, like and I 210 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: thought I overcame. That's ye, yeah, that's like and also 211 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: in front of my leading me on, like that's just hurtful, 212 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I would have been so mortified. I 213 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to like even to a professional. Well, yeah, 214 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: and I could see where it was no, no, no, 215 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: I can take anything. She know, like my best friends, 216 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: Like I know, I love the truth and I can 217 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: take it and process it and but it's okay at 218 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: the feels. Yeah, yeah, so it was that was the 219 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: that was sort of the stage for for Um, I'm 220 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: sorry that you were put in that position, but I 221 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: felt like we had a night. I felt yeah, I 222 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: loved our stuff together. I felt like we did good work. 223 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: I was proud of what we did. And um, you know, 224 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes when you have aples that you have to overcome, 225 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, if the works even better than it would 226 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: have been otherwise. So yeah, I love the scenes. I 227 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: was a fan and I thought you guys were so tender, 228 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: and I know, I really liked it because all we 229 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: know is like Donna with David and he's such a 230 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: little boy. Really, you know, I wanted to see her 231 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: be appreciated by my Chad was like a man, and 232 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: like it was nice to see forget the adoration. Yeah, 233 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: did you like the ski sweater though that you were wearing? 234 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: Your turn action machines were really tight. Well, so let's 235 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: enough about that show. You've done so much other great work. 236 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: But now you've been doing a lit I mean, you've 237 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: been doing a lot of voiceover work. We've heard that 238 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: you were on maybe something people will know, a little 239 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: movie called Frozen. You're in that one didn't two? Yeah? Yeah, 240 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: it's pretty and Frozen one and two. So um, you know, 241 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: my my I had um like I said, I was, 242 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: I was newly married at this at this point when 243 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: the when nine or two and was recorded, so, you know, 244 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: and I worked a ton of the nineties and guests, 245 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: starting on a bunch of shows and everything. And then 246 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: I was just following the money, right because you you know, 247 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: I got a mortgage and I got a family, and 248 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: so I started doing more of the voiceover stuff, a 249 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: lot of uh. As a matter of fact, I built 250 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: this room here so I could do adr remotely. So 251 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: I still do. I still do some of that, um 252 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: and yeah. So the voiceover thing has been you know, 253 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: kept my family in insurance and and all those things 254 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: for all this all these years, and so it's you 255 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: had to work from home and I get to work 256 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: from home exactly. Sorry, I'm gonna have to tell my kids, 257 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: who did you play in? Whose voice? And Frozen? So 258 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: I did a bunch of different things. Okay, okay, tell 259 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: us like I came in for like three days and 260 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: just we I did a bunch of group stuff and 261 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: did a bunch of little individual things like, um, trying 262 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: to like the guy in a hot tub the dad Yes, yes, exactly, um, 263 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: and then uh um, a lot of just different towns 264 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: with people with some troll stuff we did from singing 265 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: with the trolls and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, 266 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: it was fun. It was fun. Those those jobs are always, um, 267 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: a lot of fun to do, you know. That stuff 268 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: I was doing when I was still like frozen and 269 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: those things we were in person for all those COVID 270 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: hit everybody was working remotely. Um. I've tried to maintain 271 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: some of that remote work. Can you can you can 272 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: you do one of your favorite voices for us? Well, 273 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's dance mokey. It's really no, no, 274 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: it's really after everything you've confided in us, come on, 275 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: you can do it. But it's really like the way 276 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: that the way that I work with in these kind 277 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: of things is like you you, um, you see the 278 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: character on screen and you figure out what kind of 279 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: voice gets in there, and then you do it, so 280 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: for me to like go back and just create a voice. Now, 281 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: as as good as that would be for your podcast, 282 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't. It just understands it doesn't work. That's okay. 283 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: I just thought i'd try. We can, I can. I 284 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: ask just curious how it works differently voicing like a movie, 285 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: TV show, animated series all that versus a game versus 286 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: a game transforms okay, yeah, yeah, um yeah, so uh, 287 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, with with a lot of the game stuff 288 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: that I've done over the years, it's like, um, I 289 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: did a bunch of the uh gosh, I forget that 290 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: the military games to um, and it's just like basically 291 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:17,239 Speaker 1: days of UM shouting out different commands really so they 292 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: can fill in wherever they want, okay. And when you're 293 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: doing you know, TV or or a movie or anything 294 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: like that, it's much more like um, you know, you 295 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: watch the scene and then you you fill in okay, 296 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: and and you know, some some of the stuff that 297 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: we did on Frozen, the animation wasn't done yet, and 298 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: so you know a lot of times you go in 299 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: when it's animated film and the animation isn't done, and 300 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: so they'll just have storyboard and stuff going for you 301 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: and you just have to kind of figure it out. 302 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: I do a lot of voice over at work, and 303 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: I've never gotten a game though, so I'm just fascinated 304 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: by that, Like, yeah, yeah, it's a game. Game stuff 305 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 1: is is fun. It's but it can be a lot 306 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: of like like I did like three Days of Cops 307 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: stuff on one of the one of the one of 308 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: the games, and it was just like command after command 309 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: in different situations and they tell you what the situation 310 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: is going to be and then you're just lives forever. 311 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: People just this is like exactly, and there's so many 312 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: scenarios that can happen in those things, and so we 313 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: got to have some of the covers pretty much anything 314 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: that happened. So cool. Yeah, it's fun. Wait, so you 315 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: worked with Bert Reynolds in two shows, so so yeah, 316 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: so Bert was sort of my mentor. I apprenticed the 317 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: Burt Reyld's Theater in Florida Attacott when I graduated from college, 318 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: and I went down and was one of twelve people 319 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: picked to be in the Apprentice of the Theater program 320 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: for a year and the years changed my life. It 321 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: was um, I made some of the best friends in 322 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: my life. I you know, it was a situation where 323 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: you're doing nothing, but we had we worked for, we 324 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: worked for. It was a year. We had two days 325 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: off in the year, and you worked from like eight 326 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: in the morning until whatever show you were like, they 327 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: would have live shows going into theater, you would you 328 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: would tack or do whatever you had they with a theater, 329 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: and then after that you would have classes with the 330 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: actors that they brought in or the directors as they 331 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: brought it. So you'd be doing classes to like two 332 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: or three in the morning, and then of course you'd 333 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: had the party for a while before, you know, so 334 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: you literally got no sleep for a full year, and 335 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: you were just learning all throughout the year. So Bert, 336 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: that's I met him down there at his theater and 337 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: then I got my SAG card doing a show that 338 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: he was doing. That He was so gracious talk about 339 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: being good to a young actors. I mean he got 340 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: us all, everybody, all twelve of us are SAG cards 341 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: and our equity cards during that year. And then he 342 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: asked me to audition for the part of his son 343 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: on a TV show he was doing called Evening Shade, 344 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: and he said, you're too old for it. Marilyn Henderson 345 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: never gonna go for you being her son, but I 346 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: want everybody to meet you and everything. So I went 347 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: on an audition to be his son. Meanwhile, I was 348 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: working as a singing waiter at the Moonlight Tango Cafe 349 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: in the Valley. I can't sing a lick, and so 350 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: that was my that was my night job. So Bert 351 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: called me it. So I went on and did the audition. 352 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: I didn't get it, but he said, I want you 353 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: to come and just just help me with my lines 354 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: for a week. So I put in a week's vacation 355 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: and at the restaurant and I went to the set 356 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: and I never went back, and I worked on that 357 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: show evening shade. I worked on it for I guess 358 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: three seasons and then I went into the round table 359 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: and then I came back and finished. And the one 360 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: thing that was happening on that show was I was 361 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: getting like nine or ten ideas in every episode. Like 362 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: I would say Bert, what do you think about this? 363 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: About this camera angle? What do you think about this joke? 364 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: And he would either say yes or he would say no. 365 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: And this is why. So it was like being paid 366 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: to go to film school, and I'm working with all 367 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: these actors are working, so I'm covering everybody. It's Charles Journey, 368 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: Michael Jeter, Elizabeth Ashley, Burt Reynolds, how Holbrook. Um, you 369 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: know this amazing cast of Tony Award winner winners that 370 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: were just all, you know, helping teach this young kid 371 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: how to hone's cry. And Bert was just an amazing 372 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: mentor and friend to me. And um we were as 373 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, so I was getting so many 374 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: ideas in the shows, and he was teaching me so 375 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: much that he I had gone to a film festival 376 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: with him on the East Coast and we were driving 377 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: and he said, I brought you something, and he reached 378 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: into his bag and he pulled out and it was 379 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: I wish I had it right here. I have it 380 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: at my other desk. It was a viewfinder and he 381 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: said he told me who gave it to him. And 382 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: the name has escaped me right now. He's Oh, Bill Freaker. 383 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: He said, Bill Freaker gave me this when he thought 384 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: I was ready. He said, you're ready. I've already talked 385 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: to the producers. I thought, to the CBS, you're directing 386 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: three three episodes next season. Oh my gosh, right. Yeah, 387 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: we didn't come back to the next season, right, But 388 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: but it changed the tra director of my life. When 389 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: you have somebody that can imagine your future for you 390 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: like that, it can that believes in you like that. 391 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: So I started directing theater at that point, and I 392 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: became artistic director of the of the Actress co Op 393 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: there in Hollywood for a couple of years, and I 394 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: I then got into producing and driving a live events, 395 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: which I still do a lot of now. Um. And 396 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: it really did change that. His confidence that he had 397 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: in me and then he showed in me really really 398 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: did impact my life in a huge way. And as 399 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he also talked about Tory, how 400 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: much your father loved actors. He loved your dad. My 401 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: dad loved him, he said, he said, when you go 402 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: Steamsters spelling, look behind his desk. There's a statue. It was, Um, 403 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: I forgot the artist's name that did all the Western 404 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: It was a cowboy on a horse and he said, yeah, 405 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: and it sat behind his desk right there. Yeah, So 406 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: I forgot about that till just now I wonder where 407 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: that is. Oh my gosh, yeah it was a Remington. Wow. Yes, 408 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, so bart was was was just 409 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: really phenomenal to me over the years and so great 410 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: just with his time and his love and his care 411 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: and his you know, I mean he just really not 412 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: just me. This is much more about him and it 413 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: is about media. I mean he he did this for 414 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: a lot of people. Um, and I can't say anything 415 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: but great things about him, And um I miss him 416 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: every day. They don't make them like that anymore, Burt Reynolds. 417 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: And it's just it's a different time, sadly, it's different generation. Yeah, 418 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: And I think that the world is not necessarily a 419 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: better place that that, that that influence isn't here. So Tory, 420 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: you have to carry it on, you know. I mean 421 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: we have a we have a certain responsibility to carry 422 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: that man. So I think so, you know, just for 423 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: for the next generation so that they can extend. And 424 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: I try we do our best. Yeah, exactly. He hadn't 425 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: been great catching up with you. What we're amazing. Where 426 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: Where are you working now? What are you working on 427 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: right now? Where can people send you? You can't try, 428 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: I won't tell you where. I am so so about 429 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: I guess about twelve years ago, I moved my family 430 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: back to Kentucky. I have three kids. They're grown kids. 431 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: UM and my wife and I've been married about thirty 432 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: one years now, and um we moved back here and 433 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: I was still traveling back and forth to LA a 434 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: couple of times in a month and then doing the 435 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: remote thing. But um I UM I do. I work 436 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: for a company now where I do UM we we 437 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: try to amplify voices of mostly women who are trying 438 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: to improve the world, make the world a better place. 439 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: And so I am sort of the head of content 440 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: for this company where we work with I work with 441 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: authors and influencers and um and comedians and you know 442 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: you name it um uh and so we I do 443 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: live events, I do muh E courses with them. All 444 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 1: the things that I've been doing that I did over 445 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: the years, I'm I'm using the same tools to do 446 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: what I do now. And that's been that's been really 447 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. I do a podcast with a friend of mine. 448 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: His name is doctor Kurt Thompson. In the podcast is 449 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: called the Being Known Podcast, and it is it is. 450 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: Doctor Kurt Thompson talks about the idea of all of 451 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: us coming into the world looking for someone who's looking 452 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: for us. So Kurt Say, a psychiatrist who specializes in 453 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: interpersonal neurobiology, which is how the brain and the body 454 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: and mind are developed and how they function and change 455 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: in the context of relationships with others throughout your life. 456 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: And so this idea of coming into the world with 457 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: someone looking for us, you know, we all experience that 458 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: to varying degrees, and you know, a lot of us 459 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: spend our lives making up for screpancy of you know, 460 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: of that and of being known by others. So we 461 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: can make up for that a lot of ways, some 462 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: negative ways like addictions and affairs and shopping and food 463 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: and whatever, all the other things, or we can make 464 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: up for it in the for that discrepancy in the 465 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: context of community and relationship, and the Being ONNED podcast 466 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: provides the neuroscience behind this and the tools for creating 467 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: a community so that we can tell our stories more truly. 468 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: And when you're telling your story more truly, as you, guys, know, 469 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: when you're being seen and known and loved, you know, 470 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: you can live a much fuller life and and integrated 471 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: the life that you know. You can have better relationship 472 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: with your family and your kids and yourself and all 473 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: the things and so that will work. That's just a 474 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: little side gig that I like to do and I 475 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: wanted Kurts work to get out there. I said, if 476 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: we get four hundred listeners, I'll be that'll be a success. 477 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: And you know, we just passed one point seven million. 478 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: We're not we're not competing you guys and your numbers, 479 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: but it's it's a big number for us. It's called 480 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: the Being Known Podcast with doctor Kurt Thompson. Have a 481 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: lot of fun on that. Everyone checked that out. I'm hooked. 482 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to check it out. You got me. I 483 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'm in. Yeah. Is there a website 484 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: people can go to for your courses? I they can 485 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: go to Being Known podcast dot com. I see all 486 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: the episodes and everything there. Um and wherever you find 487 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: a your podcasts, we're out there as well. And um yeah. 488 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: So it's it's been great catching up with the two 489 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: of you. Thank you, you're amazing. Oh my gosh, oh gosh, 490 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: please thank no disrespect to your wife. I'm so glad 491 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: you're happily married for thirty one years and three beautiful kids. 492 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: But gosh, the course of my life would have changed 493 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: if you had been single. Then I had gone for 494 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: a good guy instead of me talking about bad guys 495 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: at the time when I was so young. I choose 496 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: good guys now. But I'm saying back then, that's yeah. 497 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: I figured you do now, yes, Stinkler, Not back then 498 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have gone for me because you were way 499 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: into the bad guys. Is very fine. No, thank you, 500 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: Pepper for thank you today. You're amazing. Thank you for everything, 501 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: all the best. Thank you, Bye back at you, bye 502 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: bye bye.