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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,

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Speaker 1: Tommy di Dario. Today, my friends, you are in for

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Speaker 1: a treat because I have on one of the most

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Speaker 1: brilliant artists in the world. I actually don't understand how

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Speaker 1: someone is born with so much musical talent. This guy

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Speaker 1: just opens his mouth and I don't know heaven comes out,

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Speaker 1: but I guess it makes sense given the beyond talented

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Speaker 1: family that it comes from. I am referring to the

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Speaker 1: wonderful Matteo Bocelli. Matteo recently released his debut album and

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Speaker 1: is currently on his first ever global headline tour. Now

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the album for a minute. It features

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Speaker 1: twelve tracks and it's a mix of English and his

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Speaker 1: native Italian, and his sound is so uniquely him. If

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Speaker 1: you mix the traditional opera and then throw in some

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Speaker 1: pop and throw in some beautiful Italian with some really

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Speaker 1: great beats, you get Mateo. The album is Mateo was

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Speaker 1: first solo step into the spotlight.

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Speaker 2: And yes he.

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Speaker 1: Has released music previously with his father, the incredible Andrea Bocelli,

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Speaker 1: but this album is his baby, and man, it is

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Speaker 1: so good. Today we really get to know the man

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Speaker 1: behind such a magical voice. So let's see if we

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Speaker 1: can get Matteo Bocelli to say some things that he

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Speaker 1: has never said before. Matteo, how are you, my friend?

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Speaker 1: It's great to see you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very good thanking you.

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Speaker 1: I am fantastic you right now? Are in Italy? Right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly one of my favorite places in the world. I'm

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Speaker 1: half Italian. I'm an Italian American, so I wish I

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Speaker 1: spoke the language. But I love Italy. It's the best.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really a nice place. Yeah. Sometimes people say

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Speaker 2: it's too much a holiday place. No, I can imagine

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Speaker 2: like living in Italy and working. People see it only

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Speaker 2: as the vocation place, but it's it is nice to

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you one day, I wouldn't mind living there,

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Speaker 1: so I would see it as a living and vacation

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Speaker 1: and all the fun things. But anyway, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm so psyched to dive into everything that's been going

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Speaker 1: on with you and your career. I've been following you.

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Speaker 1: It's really cool to see all the good things going

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Speaker 1: on in your life. But before we touch on all

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Speaker 1: of that, I'm so curious Mattello. I would love to

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Speaker 1: know do you remember the exact moment when you were

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Speaker 1: growing up that you thought, oh man, I have to perform,

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Speaker 1: I have to be an artist. Yes, it's in your family,

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Speaker 1: we all know that. But like, what was the moment

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Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, music has always been part of my life.

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Speaker 2: I mean listening to music since I was in my

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Speaker 2: mom's belly and I started to play the kind at

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Speaker 2: the age of six years old. Singing has always been

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Speaker 2: something that I was doing, you know, by myself. And yes, definitely,

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Speaker 2: like you see, you know, like growing up, I feel

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Speaker 2: it and I saw that, you know, this passion, this

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Speaker 2: And I wasn't like really like thinking of one day

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Speaker 2: I want to be a singer. I was just simply

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Speaker 2: growing up at the age of you know, eight, ten

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Speaker 2: years old, twelve, I was bothering my father, sound engineer.

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Speaker 2: I was like, please give me some some time. I

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Speaker 2: want to record this song rather than another one. And

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Speaker 2: that was you know, the first kind of alarm. And

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Speaker 2: then yes, I was trying to because my father, obviously

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Speaker 2: he's never been the type of father that was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're great. He was like always okay, yeah, but you

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Speaker 2: have to study more here. And so I was trying

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Speaker 2: that was working with my father to see the reaction

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Speaker 2: now and then him, David, he asked me to make

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Speaker 2: My father was like, you're too young, You're not ready.

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Speaker 2: It was worried because you know what the music industry

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Speaker 2: and that's where I understood that something like bigger was happening.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the song had quite a good success. I

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Speaker 2: The song had a great success, and then the label

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Speaker 2: then yeah, I had the lock to have a great

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Speaker 1: Well, what's so cool about your story is you're somebody

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Speaker 1: have said no, I want this record out now, or

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Speaker 1: I want to do this when I'm eighteen nineteen, and

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Speaker 1: you let timing happen as it should, and here you

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Speaker 1: must be such a cool feeling knowing that for the

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Speaker 1: first time in your career, you're out on your own,

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Speaker 1: like this is your baby, this is yours. You poured

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Speaker 1: Were you nervous embarking on this new chapter as a

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was. But at the same time, even though

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Speaker 2: had this huge jump from you know, singing a home

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Speaker 2: most important stages, you know, like Madisal Square Garden rather

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Speaker 2: than Hollywootball. And theorically wasn't ready. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: to listen to your voice, to yourself, where you know,

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Speaker 2: you don't sing any more four or five songs a show,

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Speaker 2: but you perform almost to any songs. It's different anybody.

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Speaker 2: It's as you said, it gives you so much satisfaction.

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Speaker 1: And what I love about you is you have such

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Speaker 1: talk to me about that. Because you aren't a carbon

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Speaker 2: I really hope. I mean, this is the you know,

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Speaker 2: and it's you know, it's it's not even easy when

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Speaker 2: sometimes they ask you what type of genre you make?

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, generically i'd say probably pop because that's

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Speaker 2: always been kind of like my goal, my way of

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Speaker 2: But then I mean I think kind of like everybody

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Speaker 2: you're not. I mean sometimes even DJs they don't sing,

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Speaker 2: about I think, first of all, it's the message you

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Speaker 2: want to deliver, you know. I think everything for me

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Speaker 2: you know, because whenever you have a message of feeling

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Speaker 2: like the music comes itself, you know. But then, yes,

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Speaker 2: you make I mean, you make a song and then

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Speaker 2: you produce your own way the way you feel it. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I was born in a family where opera and classical

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Speaker 2: focus on my voice, but not because not for an

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Speaker 2: you know. I like when whenever I listen to a record,

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Speaker 2: it's there, and then obviously everything that is around it

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Speaker 2: you know, like whenever there's an orchestra, there's a piano,

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Speaker 2: and there's a there's a guitar. In this moment of

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Speaker 1: Well, you certainly have that. And to your point, yes,

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Speaker 1: you were born and raised in this classical opera setting

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Speaker 1: an environment, but you don't seem to feel the pressure

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Speaker 2: To this I always found quite funny know that you

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Speaker 2: have been feeling the pressure for the last name you bring.

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Speaker 2: I think you just have to be proud of it

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Speaker 2: if you think that your father, you know, brought a

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Speaker 2: good message, you know, made music with a good purpose.

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Speaker 2: So I've always been proud to be a Bucelli and

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Speaker 2: I think that then obviously, yes, what you feel is

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Speaker 2: make the same music, you know, to perform on stage

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Speaker 2: opera rather than crossover. So it takes time to bring

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Speaker 2: the highest level. No, instead of you know, we all

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Speaker 2: need time to grow, we will need time to process

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Speaker 2: positive moment. I enjoy every single minute. Truly.

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Speaker 1: What I like about your debut album is there something

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Speaker 1: for everybody? I mean a song or two of yours

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Speaker 1: will come on in the gym and I'm like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I co work out to this, like yes, there's and

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Speaker 1: then you have the more the ballads and the Italian

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Speaker 1: like there's something for everybody. So for you, is there?

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Speaker 1: And I know this is such a hard question. There

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Speaker 1: are all your babies, but is there a song or

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Speaker 1: two that's particularly special for you when you perform it

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Speaker 1: off your album.

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Speaker 2: It's not easy. There's a okay. There are a couple

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Speaker 2: of songs part of my album. One specifically that I

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Speaker 2: wrote is Honesty. I started from whenever we did that song,

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Speaker 2: I started from a concept no, to be honest that

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Speaker 2: obviously you know it's quite common as a topic probably,

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Speaker 2: but at the same time, it's to be honest. It's

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Speaker 2: always been like a thing for me since I was

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Speaker 2: a child, not because as you can imagine, I've always

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Speaker 2: been surrounded because of my father of people obviously yes

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Speaker 2: that loves you, but also other people that are there

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Speaker 2: just for your last name, just because just to take

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Speaker 2: advantage of your position, and as a kid, you kind

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Speaker 2: of like feel all these vibes, no, all this, and

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Speaker 2: it's my challenge has always been that one to try

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Speaker 2: to find people that are honest to me, people that

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Speaker 2: Well, I probably who follows some of my interviews it's

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Speaker 1: Mmmm. Well said, Well said my friend that's such an

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's how you live it. It's how you

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Speaker 2: I have to deserve it. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: See things that we would never know you have to

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Speaker 2: he was traveling a lot and I don't know because

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Speaker 2: he you know, he passed on me so many things,

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Speaker 2: many many, many the ones more about the vocal technique

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Speaker 2: rather than you know, how to approach this specific career,

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Speaker 2: but also more generic suggestions for life. So if I

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Speaker 2: had to pick up one, whatever you make, always make

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Speaker 2: it with enthusiasm and kind of like love, you know,

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Speaker 2: because even though in this first moment of your life

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Speaker 2: you may not be doing what you really love, probably

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Speaker 2: what you're doing is going to bring you there. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: you cannot always do what you love, but you have

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Speaker 2: to learn to love what you do. I think sometimes

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Speaker 2: that the secret of people that at the end they

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Speaker 2: get what they really want. There's some other people that

448
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Speaker 2: say no, no, no, you have you simply have to chase

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Speaker 2: what you love and don't care about what people say around.

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Speaker 2: It is true because if I think that, yes, you

451
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Speaker 2: do really have to work hard and be focused on

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Speaker 2: that specific thing if that's your dream. But at the

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Speaker 2: same time, you know, we have to be realistic. You

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Speaker 2: can like of being like Worring Buffett if you don't

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Speaker 2: start from the basic or if you don't start from

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Speaker 2: like a first job. You know, but yeah, this is this,

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Speaker 2: this suggests I would give. It's kind of this one

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Speaker 2: like I had the luck to kind of like do

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Speaker 2: what I loved since the beginning, even though I had

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Speaker 2: to to fight a little bit with my father because

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Speaker 2: it was like, you know, you have to study, you

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Speaker 2: have to and it is important. It is important to study.

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Speaker 2: It is important to get a degree. At the same time,

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Speaker 2: it's not I have to say, it's not fundamental if

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Speaker 2: you want to have a music career. No, because you

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Speaker 2: see so many people with a degree and then they

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Speaker 2: have a more basic kind of like job even about music,

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Speaker 2: you know, like you and there's some that don't get

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Speaker 2: a degree and they become superstars. But I think that

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Speaker 2: at the bottom it is important to have, like a culture.

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Speaker 2: Not because even though it's not so important for your job,

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Speaker 2: but still it's important for yourself. I think at the end,

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Speaker 2: the knowledge, I think it's the biggest kind of tool

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Speaker 2: you can have to defend yourself, to protect yourself for anything,

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Speaker 2: so for your career, for yourself in general, you know.

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Speaker 2: So yes, with my father, I was like, you have

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Speaker 2: to study this, you have to say, but yes, I

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Speaker 2: mean if I love to do music, I have to

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Speaker 2: study for what I love. So I'm going to study,

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Speaker 2: you know, at the conservative of music, and then I'm

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Speaker 2: going to try this. If at the end i'm I

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Speaker 2: won't be you know enough, you'll find something else. But

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Speaker 2: I'm more for etchieran philosophy. You know, I only have

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Speaker 2: plan A, and A was to become you know, a singer,

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Speaker 2: no matter what the level was. But for me, it's

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Speaker 2: kind of the same philosophy. That's that's what I want

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Speaker 2: to do in life. I'm not thinking of of a

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Speaker 2: plan B. But if ever in life will happen, you'll think,

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Speaker 2: you know, on that moment, certainly not.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's just pop in my head when you were talking,

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Speaker 1: because having a backup plan, having a safety plan is

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Speaker 1: something that many people are encouraged to do. But when

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Speaker 1: you love something so much and you only see that

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Speaker 1: as your future, that's a powerful thing. And I wonder

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Speaker 1: if fast forward from you know, little Mateo to you

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Speaker 1: performing at the Academy Awards this year, when you came

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Speaker 1: out and you send time to say goodbye, which was

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Speaker 1: just one of the most beautiful moments of the entire ceremony.

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Speaker 1: And I know you just dropped that single a month

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Speaker 1: or so ago. Was that a really special moment for you?

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Speaker 2: It was special because I was performing in front of

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Speaker 2: so many talents, and that was a thing, the hardest part,

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Speaker 2: but also times say goodbye. It's been the song that

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Speaker 2: made my father successful all over the world. So I

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00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: was a very delicate moment in any way. So but

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Speaker 2: I'm happy because luckily it went very good and I

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Speaker 2: had the chance to meet a lot of interesting people.

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Speaker 1: And yes, it is. It's now a beautiful memory, a

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Speaker 1: really beautiful memory. Let's tell you as we wrap up,

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Speaker 1: the name of this show is called I've never said

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Speaker 1: this before, so I'm wondering, is there anything that you

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Speaker 1: can think of that comes to the top of your

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Speaker 1: mind that you want to share today?

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Speaker 2: How stupid and the House Heroes has to be the.

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Speaker 1: Answer whatever you want it to be. It could be

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Speaker 1: anything silly, serious, it's up to you.

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Speaker 2: Something that I've never said before that is a little

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Speaker 2: bit weird is that I always have to align all

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Speaker 2: the light switch. It is a little bit weird because

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Speaker 2: it is but like every time I, for example, I

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Speaker 2: have to switch off all the lights, you know, and

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Speaker 2: in the same room there are more light switch. They

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Speaker 2: always have to be in the position of like a

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Speaker 2: specific position. I can't see the light switch in disorder.

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Speaker 2: They have to be perfectly aligned.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So like every single that makes.

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Speaker 2: Because I know I'm not the only one. People that

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Speaker 2: does this will understand, I what's the feeling.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. So every single light switch on a wall

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Speaker 1: like either has to be down or up or you'll

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Speaker 1: focus on.

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Speaker 2: That when it's off as to be up.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I can relate. I'm a little OCD myself,

534
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Speaker 1: so if something's out of place that's bothering me, it's

535
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Speaker 1: like all I can focus on and someone will be

536
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Speaker 1: talking to me and they'll be like, why are you

537
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Speaker 1: staring at the candle? Well, because it's turned too far

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Speaker 1: to the left. I need it to the right, so

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Speaker 1: you know exactly what I'm talking about. Yes, I do,

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Speaker 1: and I maybe it's an Italian thing. I don't know

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Speaker 1: because I have a lot of issues with many things

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Speaker 1: that need to be in place. So I'm with you

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Speaker 1: on that. Well, that's that's something I certainly have never

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Speaker 1: heard before from anyone. So thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, this has been so much fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited for everything going on in your career.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, your album's fantastic. I'm so happy for

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Speaker 1: you on the tour. You're continuing to perform all over

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Speaker 1: the place, so everybody can look forward to following your adventures.

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Speaker 1: What is the best way for people to see if

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Speaker 1: you add more tour dates than to follow your career?

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Speaker 1: Where should we all go?

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Speaker 2: We're definitely on my socials, but also I have a website,

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Speaker 2: my table Shady do It, and there you can find

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Speaker 2: all the infut and yeah, I hope to see there

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Speaker 2: for my concorts.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my friend, it was great talking

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I've never said this before. Is hosted by me Tommy Dedario.

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Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Pivlisi at iHeartRadio

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