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Speaker 1: Around here. We hustle for a living around here.

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Speaker 2: Around here, we grind board living around Roundhead.

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Speaker 1: We huscle for lit round here around Head, we grund

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Speaker 1: for a living man.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another exciting edition of up on Game presents

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Speaker 2: conversations with a legend, and we do have another legend

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Speaker 2: on board on that one of my personal faves a

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Speaker 2: hero growing up, we got mister ward Done.

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Speaker 1: Now, I got I gotta set it off by saying this.

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Speaker 2: And I know I probably told you this a few

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Speaker 2: times over, but you know I used to wear wristbands

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Speaker 2: on my shins right below my knee because of Ward Done.

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Speaker 2: I had to strap I had to strap on my shoe.

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Speaker 2: Because of Ward Done, I had the wristband on my elbows. Now,

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Speaker 2: they might have thought it was just because of Deep

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Speaker 2: Brooks and ray Lu, but a lot of my influence

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Speaker 2: came from from you. So and it's interesting because you know,

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Speaker 2: I give you a backstory. Andy Orbanic Right, y'all's assistant

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Speaker 2: A d was from Penhills, Pittsburgh, And when I was

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Speaker 2: in high school, he did a camp of champions in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: They would come to the camp and during the mess

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Speaker 1: He would show highlights of Florida State.

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Speaker 2: So my two favorites easily, well, three, I gotta say three.

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Speaker 2: But I didn't want to be Charlie Ward. I wanted

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Speaker 2: to be like Ward Done and Derrick Brooks. So the

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Speaker 2: coolest thing was, here's the weirdest thing. I'm taller than

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Speaker 2: both of y'all. Right, So I was at six '

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Speaker 2: three in high school like this, like my freshman year,

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Speaker 2: sophomore year, and Andy Orbanic would bring me the tapes.

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Speaker 1: So indirectly, I ran like I was your.

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Speaker 2: Size because I in my mind, I wanted to run

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Speaker 2: like how you ran.

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Speaker 1: So I patterned my running style after you.

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Speaker 2: So I was quick and I was shifty even though

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Speaker 2: I was long, you know what I mean. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I rocked the cowboy collar and all that stuff

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Speaker 2: because because of Deep Brooks and all that. So I

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Speaker 2: was a Florida State and always told coach Bollten God

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Speaker 2: rest his soul, always told him, if they would have

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Speaker 2: recruited me harder, I would have been a knowle you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: Would enjoy it. You would enjoyed the little small town

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Speaker 3: I mean I know you you were a great player

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Speaker 3: you're to have added to that mix and would have

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Speaker 3: been would have been crazy on defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that was the same David Warren came in.

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Speaker 2: That that would have been too. It would have been

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Speaker 2: ninety seven. But I mean I grew up on them,

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Speaker 2: like when when they had Ruble d. Brooks, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, they had Wadsworth, they had they had

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Speaker 2: Alexander had Crockett, had Hamlet in the back. I'll run

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Speaker 2: I'll run them off.

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Speaker 1: But but here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: So so being a part of one of the most

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Speaker 2: can recall you in rock Preston being in the backfield.

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Speaker 3: Well, I played more out of the gate because when

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Speaker 3: we start the camp, he wasn't there the first few

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Speaker 2: So fast forward. I gotta fast forward. To this because

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Speaker 2: you meant so much to me. When we played Atlanta

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Speaker 2: and I got my first chance to play against you,

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Speaker 1: Get to you, like that's like one of those things.

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Speaker 2: It's like, if I'm on the field with another linebacker,

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Speaker 2: like Jerome Bettis. I had to try my hand with

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Speaker 2: Jerome Bettis, right. So it was like there was like

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Speaker 2: if you remember this, but you remember me. I don't

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Speaker 2: even know who the fullback was, but he came to

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, those things happened occasionally, but it

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Speaker 3: wasn't It wasn't a clean hit, right because I wasn't

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Speaker 3: I trust the guys in front of me, and I

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Speaker 3: you know, I had Fred mccry, you know mac quarry.

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Speaker 3: So I figured that's where it was, right because Justin,

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Speaker 3: Justin wouldn't let you do that. He was a smaller guy,

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Speaker 3: so he's gonna use his his size to help him.

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Speaker 3: But Fred, he's trying to always pound you. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: a clean shot. I know you remember, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Have to do part two. You're gonna have to tell

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Speaker 3: Oh, we can do that. We can do that, we

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Speaker 1: We're so old now. And so here's a transition. Here's

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows, especially in Atlanta, what work Done is doing

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Speaker 2: and what Work Done has done.

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Speaker 1: For his entire life.

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Speaker 2: But for those who may have lived under a rock

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Speaker 2: for all these years and never caught win to all

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Speaker 2: of the great things you've done.

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Speaker 1: Let us know what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: What does work Done have going on now?

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Speaker 3: Well? I have a lot of jobs, right, so I

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Speaker 3: would tell you that we can be here for a

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Speaker 3: little bit. You know, I don't think we have enough time.

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Speaker 3: But I think you know a lot of people know

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Speaker 3: me as the guy who just helps families, right, I'm

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Speaker 3: the guy who gives away houses. I don't give anything away,

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Speaker 3: but I try to help single parent families who have

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Speaker 3: And the reason I do that is because my mom

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Speaker 3: So for me, I wanted to live up my mom's

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Speaker 3: we're fully furnishing at homes. We I mean, we put

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Speaker 3: everything in their homes all the way down to the toothbrush. Right.

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Speaker 3: So now you just pretty much have to just bring.

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Speaker 1: Your clothes out right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty much it. So we've been doing it

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Speaker 3: now and we're about to get ready to celebrate twenty

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Speaker 3: one hundred and ninety five single parent families we felt today.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to continue to go and getting ready

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Speaker 3: for home two hundred. I appreciate it, but this started

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Speaker 3: And over the years these programs have come around, we

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Speaker 3: so they can continue to learn. I just don't want

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Speaker 3: but my younger five brothers and sisters. They needed her

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Speaker 3: for kids. Just moving forward, and you know, this program

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Speaker 3: fifteen states, twenty four twenty five markets. We're growing. We're

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Speaker 3: these teams grew up in a single parent house, someone

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Speaker 3: I built a relationship with mister Blank, Right. I mean

436
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 3: when I first came to Atlanta, I met him and

437
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 3: we didn't talk football. We talked about life, right. We

438
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 3: talked about the impact that I wanted to make in

439
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 3: the state of Atlanta and what he wanted to make

440
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 3: because he was just becoming an owner. You know. I

441
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: would say. The second thing is you I think I

442
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 3: wasn't the highest paid player at my position. I mean,

443
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 3: if you look back, I mean if I played in

444
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 3: today's era, could be a lot different. But when I

445
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 3: was playing, I was having to prove to everybody league

446
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: that I'm only five eight, one hundred and eighty pounds,

447
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: that I can play every down, I can play with

448
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 3: the big boys, and you know, trying to make sure

449
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: that I can stay health. I had a lot to prove.

450
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: But my strategy has always been, you know, I need

451
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 3: to make sure I put myself and my family stuff

452
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: in a position, you know, to have a good future,

453
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 3: and utilize the platforms to do that. And that's what

454
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: I did. I mean, believe it or not, you know,

455
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 3: I was able to manage money early on. You know,

456
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 3: I was able to put money to becoming a partner

457
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: because you just it's not a verbal agreement. I have

458
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: to show it by giving money, you know. Pretty much

459
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: he paid me to play with the Falcons and I

460
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 3: had to give a lot of that money back to

461
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 3: him to become a minority owner. But when you think

462
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: about it, you know I just managed.

463
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: It's brilliant.

464
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: I managed my money. But he asked me a quick question,

465
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 3: you know, towards the end of my career, It's like,

466
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: what are you going to do after football? No, he said, hey,

467
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 3: do you want to go coach? You want to go

468
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 3: you know, do this or I was like, no, I

469
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: don't want to do that. I mean, so what you

470
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: want to do. I said, I'd rather be up there

471
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: with you in the box, right, And I mean he

472
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: was just like, really okay, I said, yeah, I mean

473
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: this my goal, isn't I had big expectations for myself

474
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: or lofty goals, right. You know, but if you don't

475
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 3: speak it or say it that.

476
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: It can't happen, it happened, right.

477
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 3: I mean the reality is it may happen. It may

478
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: not happen, but you have to have that positive attitude

479
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: and that outlook on life that this is possible. I

480
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: built a relationship with him, and I was always very

481
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: transparent with mister Blank about the good, the bad, the ugly.

482
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 3: I mean he would tell you I would call him

483
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 3: about whatever, and I was able to call the owner

484
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: of the team and I go through the GM. Not

485
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: that I built a relationship with him and I was

486
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: never in for myself. He can see that I cared

487
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 3: about my teammates, you know, the organization. I just want

488
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: to see us be better. And you know, after I

489
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: got released from the Falcons, he said, one day, I

490
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: would love to call you a partner. I had no

491
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 3: idea what that meant. At that time. I was still

492
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: trying to play football. I went a Tampa one more

493
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: year and then I believe or not, he had three

494
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: or four meetings about about becoming a partner, And believe

495
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: it or not, he was just he cooked me dinner,

496
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 3: had me over to his house, cook me dinners. Can work.

497
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: This is something that you need to do. And I

498
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 3: was still on the fence with it. But I was like,

499
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: you know what, you know what, Yeah, I'm gonna do it.

500
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 3: I'm gonna work it out. And I just talked to

501
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: my financial advisor says, okay, what can I how much

502
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: you think I can do? You know this or that?

503
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: It was like, right, if it's accurate, It was like

504
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: north of forty up front.

505
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 3: Well, well, you know, I can't tell you all.

506
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: Right, all right, but you're saying pretty right.

507
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: Now out Well, it's a good investment, you know, it's

508
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 3: a great investment. That's what you think about. You know,

509
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: the return is come, I mean some, But let me

510
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: just tell you a lot of times people feel like

511
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: they need to give one hundred billion or ten million

512
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: or whatever. It is an investment sometimes, you know, and

513
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: we've heard this from a lot of billionaires. If you

514
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: put one, you know, a million dollars into a billion

515
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: dollars business. I mean that's a.

516
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: You're not doing that, Yeah, you're not.

517
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 3: I mean it's you know, so I just thought strategically,

518
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, I don't have anything to prove to

519
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 3: anybody else. This is an opportunity, right, I need. I

520
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: want to make sure that still can live a comfortable life,

521
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: still do the things I would like to do. But

522
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 3: at the same time, I know that when I give

523
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: this money, it's gone, right, I have to pretend it's gone.

524
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: And it's a really great investment, so I can't complain.

525
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 3: I mean, when I get the return, you know, it'll

526
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: be good for the kids. Now you sell it for me. Yeah,

527
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: But in reality.

528
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: Disney thinking, it's some Disney World thinking.

529
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's just like eventually down the road,

530
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 3: you know, it's just like they reaped the benefits of it,

531
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: you know. I'm just saying, the generation of wealth. Yeah,

532
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: and that's what it's about for me.

533
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: All Right.

534
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: That's dope, that's super dope. All right, let me let me,

535
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: let me let me wrap you up. Well, there's two

536
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: more questions I'm asking you.

537
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: One.

538
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: I would be remissed if I didn't ask you, what

539
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: is your favorite moment in memory with Coach Bowden. I mean,

540
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: I gotta, I gotta capture that and and that's got

541
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: to be something that that is a part of the

542
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: historical value of one of the greatest men that that

543
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: I've ever known of, and well.

544
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: Two of the greatest dudes that and men that I've

545
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: known of. So what what.

546
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: Is one of the most memorable moments that you've ever

547
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: had with him? And it could be the first time

548
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: you met him when you were younger, it could be

549
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: as a man. It could just give me one, give

550
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: me one where it's like this one really really maybe

551
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: define something for you.

552
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you one. This my freshman year,

553
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: we planned South Bend playing Notre Dame and I told people,

554
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,239
Speaker 3: you know this before is that I'm out. You know

555
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: everybody was slipping on the field in the first half.

556
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: You know they grew the grass. You know this or that?

557
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: I remember.

558
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: And I was slipping, Brooks slipped, Charlie ware was slipping

559
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: out there. And he called me out at halftime in

560
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: front of the whole team and said, work, You're not

561
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 3: in high school anymore. You can't be out there slipping

562
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: this or that. I'm just like, I mean, you know I.

563
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: Could figure it out. But Brooksy is slipping. Yeah, but

564
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: we all slipped it.

565
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all did. But I I just said, Okay,

566
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: I went out in the second half. I did not slip.

567
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: You know, I scored, you know, I think I remember

568
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: I scored a touchdown. I had a really good second half.

569
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: And I took that challenge right that you know that

570
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: I need to rise above and you know, you can

571
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: use me as an example all you want, but I'm

572
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: approved to you that because you called me out, that

573
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out there and make it happen. And

574
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: I did in the second half, and that has stuck

575
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: with me all these years, right, I mean, he was

576
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: another example. My mom challenged me when I was a

577
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: freshman in high school, I could take you out of

578
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: this school because I was about to flunk out, or

579
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: you can stay and proved to them that you can

580
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: make it. And I decided myself that I'm gonna stay here.

581
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: And I'm approved to him that I can make it

582
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: this school because I went to all boys, predominant white

583
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 3: Catholic private school. Honestly, I was at home many books,

584
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: I was enjoying lunch and pe I had to go

585
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: ahead and decide to buckle down. Took the same mentality

586
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: from that challenge with my mom to coach Bowden. And

587
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: you know, anytime anybody called me out, I didn't take

588
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: it as a negative. That's calling me out in front

589
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: of everybody. I took that as you know what, they're

590
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: not going to do it again.

591
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you the one to do it, though. I mean,

592
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: that's how I would look at it. If Coach Bounce

593
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: called me out, single me out, You the one to

594
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: do it.

595
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the one to do it. That's why I

596
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: had to call That's why you had to call me out.

597
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm the man.

598
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: I don't care how high the grass is. I don't

599
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: care how what the grass is. Don't slip.

600
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't gonna let that happen. And you know,

601
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: we almost came back and won that game in the

602
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: second half. But I did go out and I didn't

603
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: slip anymore. All right, that was gonna be my excuse.

604
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: Wow?

605
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: All right, last one. I'm gonna leave you with what

606
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: does work Done want his legacy to be? If you

607
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: left here today when they give your eulogy, what would

608
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: you want them to say about you?

609
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: Now, that's tough that I was a family man. I

610
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: care about my family. That was first and foremost to me.

611
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: The most important part of my life is my family.

612
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: And I cared about people, right. I just I've been

613
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: across this country and this world, and I've talked to people.

614
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: I was in a community where they wrap their arms

615
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: around my family when I lost my mom, and they

616
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: taught me what it means to care about your neighbor

617
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: and to give back. And for me, I just wanted

618
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: to continue to spread my wings and be thankful that

619
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: I had the opportunity. But I just care about seeing

620
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: people live a better life. But the most important thing

621
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: is they have to do their part. Right. Nothing is free.

622
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: You can't just hand things out and expecting the one

623
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: to value it. You do your part and I will help, right,

624
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: And that's really what I'm about. I've had to do

625
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: my part. You have to do your part because we

626
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: all we all have to train, we have to work hard,

627
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: we have to be committed to something, and we all

628
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: need assistance to move forward in life. That's pretty much

629
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: the thing that I would like people won you know

630
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: to know about me, right that you know I played football,

631
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: pro football. I never thought I'd played professional football and

632
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: get drafted playing at one hundred and eighty five pounds

633
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: at the most. You know, I got draft. I was

634
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy. Think about what I had to

635
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: prove just to play down in and down out. And

636
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: now I'm thirty seven yards shot eleven thousand. I'm one

637
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: of six guys in the National Football League with five

638
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: hundred receptions, you know, over fifteen thousand yards of total offense.

639
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: You know, when it comes to that running backs. I mean,

640
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: it says a lot, but people don't think about the

641
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: football thing. They just think about this is the guy

642
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: who helps people. Well, this is the guy who gets

643
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: there with the homes right, And That's what I'm known for,

644
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: not you know what I did on the feeling, and

645
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 3: I would like to be known as someone who played

646
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: the game at the highest level and against the best.

647
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: When I blocked Reggie White, Kevin Green, blocking you and

648
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: all those, I mean, it wasn't like I was out

649
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: there just chilling. I was out there playing and I

650
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: ran for my life, and you know I was. I

651
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: want to be an elite athlete football player because I'm

652
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Speaker 3: very competitive, but also want to be the best human

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Speaker 3: that I can be and I wish people would would

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Speaker 3: would take that that you know, I was just as

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Speaker 3: good as a football player, human being, vice versa. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's all about that.

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Speaker 2: Just super quick, because you mentioned your mom the entire

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Speaker 2: interview and to know and I know you mentioned her passing,

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Speaker 2: but to know how that impacted you in terms of

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Speaker 2: what it what your responsibilities had to be based off

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Speaker 2: of what happen. Just so people are clear when they

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Speaker 2: hear this that if you're comfortable with that, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's well documented, you know, but just.

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Speaker 1: Give up, like just before we go, just the idea.

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Speaker 2: And that was like right before your eighteenth birthday, right

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Speaker 2: if I went correctly.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was two days after my eighteenth birthday, I

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Speaker 3: just turned eighteen, and two days later my mom, who's

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Speaker 3: a Bedroom City police officer, was shot and killed in

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Speaker 3: line of duty. She was making a routine that deposit

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Speaker 3: at a at a bank with the grocery store manager,

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Speaker 3: and two guys open fire on the police car. She's

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Speaker 3: in a police unifarmer in a car and she lost

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Speaker 3: her life. You know, from that, I just became the

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Speaker 3: guardian that my brothers and sisters, being eighteen years old,

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Speaker 3: just turning eighteen, I was responsible for them, so you know,

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Speaker 3: I had to grow up really fast. Didn't have the

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Speaker 3: best college life because I was so I was more focusing.

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Speaker 3: A lot of my meetings with coach Bowden were about family.

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Speaker 3: I would go to his office and sit to him,

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Speaker 3: sit down with him and talk about, Okay, what I

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Speaker 3: do in this situation with my brothers and sisters back home.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to raise kids, you know from Tallahassee over

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Speaker 3: the phone and you know, go back and forth. So

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Speaker 3: I had the ability to go home every break, every

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Speaker 3: weekend that I had off, every summer, I went home.

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Speaker 3: You know, I did it all. I did it all.

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Speaker 3: But I think the most important thing that I did

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Speaker 3: is that when I was a my second year in Tampa,

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00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 3: the youngest three came to live with me. So being

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Speaker 3: a professional football player just work of the year. Now

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Speaker 3: I'm going to Pta means making sure that you know,

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00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: I had to cooking meals every day. So I wasn't

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Speaker 3: able to hang out with my teammates.

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Speaker 1: Right I was parent parented.

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Speaker 3: I was going to football games on Friday nights, not

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Speaker 3: hanging out with my teammates on Friday nights. I was

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Speaker 3: doing everything a parent would do you and you know

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Speaker 3: for me, I you know, that was my life. But

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Speaker 3: because you know, I was the oldest of six, being

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Speaker 3: responsible for my brothers and sisters, you know, I felt

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Speaker 3: it was important that I do that. My mom, you know,

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Speaker 3: she she left me that responsibility. So that's what I

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Speaker 3: had to do, and I'm just thankful that I was,

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Speaker 3: you know, put in a situation that I was mentally

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Speaker 3: strong and able to provide for them.

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Speaker 1: You're one of the most extraordinary dudes I've ever known.

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Speaker 2: World real cof like real strong bromh