1 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Every year NFL teams conduct their fight for fifty three. 2 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: That's the size of an NFL roster, fifty three players, 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: and those names will always vary year to year, heck, 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: week to week. But the Arizona Cardinals have a fifty 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: fourth locker and that name plate will never change. Pat 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Tillman talk about a guy with a lot of heart. 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Passion is kind of an important word for me. Whether 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, playing sports, or whether it's you know, 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: just living or whatever you're gonna do, you should, in 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: my opinion, you should be passionate a matter of why 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: why do it? He's pretty legendary just for being the 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: guy he was that being true to himself, challenging people 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: around him, you know, never being dull or just taking 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: things for granted or being complacent. He was always searching 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: for knowledge. I think it was important to save the locker. 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: As time goes by, you start to forget about things 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: that happened in history. I didn't want Pat to be forgotten. 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Legendary locker with the forever name plate, Pat Tillman. This 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: is Cardinal's Folk Tales, presented by seventy two sold where 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: we go in depth into Cardinal's history all time anecdotes. 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: Through the personal recollections and memories of those who lived it, 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: we hear their words, their voices. My name is Paul 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: kelvic Up covered the Cardinal since late nineteen ninety five, 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: the end of the Buddy Ryan era. I've been the 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Cardinal's sideline reporter since two thousand and five, and as 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: I can attest, you may think you know some of 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: these folk tales stories, but as I found out, as 28 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 1: even team historians have found out, we don't like this story. 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: This folk tale revolving around the most widely known figure 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: in Cardinal's history, Pat Tillman, and how his legendary locker 31 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: was saved with a last second interception from a buzz 32 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: saw literally a long time staffer, I didn't really get 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: the idea to kind of preserve the locker until two 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: thousand and six. I always put it in the back 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: of my head, like I want to save this locker. 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: That would be kind of cool. And I just didn't 37 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: know when the renovations could take place, and sits married 38 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: and lunch at Oregano's and they're taking place, so I 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: had to do something. When you know the cliche, if 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: you cut somebody open, they bleed Cardinal red. That's that's 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: almost so. It was fitting that, you know, he would 42 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: be the one that has his finger on the pulse 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: of that and in the moment immediately recognize his how 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: significant this is to preserve. Before we get to that locker, 45 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: the museum piece on display showcase for all to see 46 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: at Cardinals HQ, we need to understand Pat Tillman. Notice 47 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: how we didn't say the football player Pat Tillman, because 48 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Pat was so much more than an athlete. Pat Tillman, 49 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: what can I say? Just all around good guy, not cocky, 50 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: very confident, soft spoken, like the thing Desperado and like 51 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: that movie. Immediately I kind of liked me. Had long hair, 52 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: he didn't dress nice. He was just such a unique, 53 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: genuine dude that people, you know, were endeared to him. 54 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: He was a different kind of guy. You know, he 55 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: was a flower child if you will. You know, of course, 56 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: at the time, I didn't have any clue that he 57 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: would go out to the kind of hero that he became. 58 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: But you know, he was a different type of dude. 59 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: He would ride his bicycle to practice every day. Those 60 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: are the voices of former Tillman teammates Larry centers, Jake Plummer, 61 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: and all started by former linebacker Mark Maddox. The thing is, 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: if you asked Pat to talk about himself, something he 63 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: seldom did, I'm not sure that football player would have 64 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: made the top three things Seed say about himself. To 65 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: know Pat was to know that Pat was about the 66 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: next achievement, the next challenge, the next curiosity. Long time 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals beat writer and Arrows Republic columnists Kent Summers as 68 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: a player just passionate to the point of borderline. Is 69 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: this guy human? I mean kind of human? Actually play 70 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: that hard and have such a disregard for his body 71 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: and play the game that way? And never I mean 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: there was just one speed, you know, one gear there 73 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: was you know, Dave McGinnis used to say that the 74 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: guy has a switch, not a dial. You know, you 75 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: just flip it on and it's the same, the same speed. 76 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: When Pat put on the pads, he used them. He 77 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: was all in. Like everything else he did. Pat never 78 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: did anything half speed, even when the drools were designed 79 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: to be half speed. That was Pat in his first 80 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: NFL training camp as the seventh round tweener just hit 81 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: anything and everything that moved. I watched it in person, 82 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: I covered that nineteen ninety eight training camp in Flagstaff. 83 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: I watched the decision makers take notice that the guy 84 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: in the football uniform, but lie the dude in the 85 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: surfer shorts in the flip flops. Here's former Cardinals wide 86 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: receiver Frank Sanders. I think Pat probably deserved flip flops 87 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: and a surfboard somewhere in some Oakley shorts and a 88 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: real nice golden hair. And that's it. Like playing football. 89 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: Never seemed like he should be there until he put 90 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: on his pads. To put on his pads, a different 91 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: person showed him. I understand he hit pretty hard. No, 92 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm a different guy. I'm in the middle of the 93 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: fingers into the plate. Wow, off comes the helmet off 94 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: the attended receiver as he gets crushed back there by 95 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: Pat Tilman. Pat Tilmann the blade. He knocked him right 96 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: in the helmet with a forearm and just slapped that 97 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: helmet off. Even as a rookie, we used to have 98 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: to call him off, you know, some some practices we were, 99 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: you know, just fit up on the guy with the ball. 100 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: But he would come in and demolish the guys, which 101 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: was a really good tactic and it worked out great 102 00:05:54,800 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: for him because it got to coach's attention. He brought 103 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: that same kind of fu mentality to the Cardinals. I mean, 104 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: rookies don't hit receivers in OTA days, but he would 105 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: lay some wood on a guy or like put an 106 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: elbow in him and getting fights, and he really up 107 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: the competitiveness during practice. Guys didn't like him because he 108 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: would hit you or rough you up, or do what 109 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: whatever he felt he needed to work on, and they 110 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: ended up respecting him because it made everybody's level come up. 111 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: He was a tone setter. Let's just say that Pat 112 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: would routinely exceed the perceived practice speed woman. But that's 113 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: how Pat forged an NFL career. That's how Pat made 114 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: the Cardinals as the two hundred and twenty six player 115 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: taken in the nineteen ninety eight draft. How he caught 116 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: the coach's attention even though he was the reigning Pac 117 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: ten defensive Player of the Year. But at the NFL level, 118 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: was he still a linebacker? Was he fast enough to 119 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: be a safety? Pad made sure none of that matter, 120 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: because all he did turn guys into tackling dummies that 121 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: entire camp, even though it landed him in the NFL's 122 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 1: version of a coach's time out. Former Cardinal's head coach 123 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: Den S. Tobin and the one I remember it was 124 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: a wide receiver that he got in a fight with 125 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: a hand Depp having to throw him both off the 126 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: field because every time the play started where there'd be 127 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: a fight between those two at the end of the play, 128 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: and so I sent him up. But as Vince Stiben 129 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: himself would admit later, the Cardinals needed that mentality, that 130 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 1: Pat Tillman brand of physicality and fight that Tilman two 131 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: because remember the Cardinals were still in the same division 132 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: with those Cowboys teams coming off Super Bowls and physical 133 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: East Coast teams from tough towns playing bullyball like the 134 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Giants and Eagles and Washington once again. Former Cardinals quarterback 135 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: Jake Plummer. You look at someone like him who was 136 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: similar to me. We were too small, too slow, not 137 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: strong enough, not smart enough, all these excuses for why 138 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be there yet. We just you know, we 139 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: threw that all side and said, yeah, we're supposed to 140 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: be here. He congratulated me, and I guess he was 141 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: one of the my advocates. He was talking me up. 142 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: So where the hell, where are you all right? Thank you, 143 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: appreciate your help, Jake. He said that I gotta give 144 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: him fifteen percent of whatever I get because of his 145 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: good talk, so it might not be much. So we 146 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: had that chip on our shoulder and that confidence, that 147 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: quiet confidence about ourselves and belief in ourselves. So we 148 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: were kindred spirits right away. Pat became a football player 149 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: simply because of will and determination. He wasn't really big enough, 150 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: strong enough, fast enough to play in the National Football League, 151 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: but he willed himself to become a good enough football 152 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: player to overcome those limitations. And it's something that Patt 153 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: had already done plenty of define the doubters. A quick 154 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: personal note. I covered Pat during his years at ASU 155 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: and then his early years the Cardinals. Before that, I'd 156 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: known of Pat through our high school alma mater, Leland 157 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: High School in South San Jose. We were both from 158 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: the Almanan Valley, which you might have seen featured in 159 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: some of the Pat Tilman documentaries. His future father in 160 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: law was my high school baseball coach. We were seven 161 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: or eight years apart or so, and I still remember 162 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: my dad called me during Pat's senior year of high school. Hey, 163 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: you guess what he said? Leland is in this section 164 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: title game and I cut off my dad. I say, 165 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: come on now, Pop, have you been drinking more of 166 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: your red wine again? Come on? No, no, no, They've 167 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: got this Tilman kid. He's a running back and nobody 168 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: can tackle him. And he's a better middle linebacker. He's 169 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: all over the field. So when people talk about Pat's 170 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: ability to inspire and lift others, people rightfully cite the 171 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: fact that the last time as you went to the 172 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: Rolls Bowl, it was Pat Tillman and Jake Plummer during 173 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: Pat's rookie year in the NFL nineteen ninety eight, the 174 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: year Zelona Cardinals won their first playoff game in half 175 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: a century. And my response is always, oh what though 176 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: Pat's greatest team achievement was leading as High School to 177 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: a title, because, believe me, did degree of difficulty there. 178 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: Pat's High School hasn't come close to winning before or 179 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: after Pat. Bolt Towers the World Trade Center have been 180 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: hitched by aircraft. Both are in flane, black smoke coming 181 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: from both of the towers. It's a horrific scene here. 182 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: There are chore crews just screaming into this area from 183 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: every conceivable direction. You know, times like this you stop 184 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: and think about just how not only how good we 185 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: have it, but what kind of a system we live under, 186 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: what freedoms were allowed? You know, my great grandfather was 187 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: at Pearl Harbor, and a lot of my family has 188 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: given up, you know, has gone in foughten wars. And 189 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: I really haven't done a damn thing as far as 190 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: laying myself on the line like that, and so I 191 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: have a great deal of respect for those that have 192 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: and what the flag stands for. The Voice of Pat 193 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: Tillman September twelfth, two thousand and one, the day after 194 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: the horrific events of nine to eleven. In fact, on 195 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: September eleven, Pat Tillman was at the Cardinal's facility and 196 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: he wandered through the media area and sat down to 197 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: watch the news coverage as it unfolded. With Cardinals beat 198 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: writer Darren Urban. He was like, what we do playing 199 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL? He goes, We're worthless, We're actors. He goes, 200 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: that means nothing. This is so much bigger than that. 201 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: There's probably no better time to talk about a guy 202 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: who took nine one one to heart and made a 203 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: life changing decision based on his feeling something he felt 204 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: he needed to do. It was sort of the you know, 205 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: man bites dog story, like this doesn't make any sense. 206 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: He's right on the verge. We're in discussions with his 207 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: agent about potentially extending his contract, and he decided I'm 208 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: going to walk away from this. But you know, it 209 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: was just six months after nine to eleven, and it 210 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: was only three weeks after he got married to Marie 211 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: as high school sweetheart, and it was about one week 212 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: after they got back from their honeymoon. He joined the 213 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Army up in Colorado and then went on to become 214 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: part of the Rangers and one of the leaders. Cardinal's 215 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: owner Michael Bidwell, as Patt had just set a team 216 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: record for tackles in a season, his jersey was worn 217 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: by fans all over town. Plus there was the business 218 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: of football, as Pat was on the verge of cashing 219 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: in on a mega contract and he literally left it 220 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: all behind. My reaction was just I was like, I 221 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: just kind of had this big smiling, started laughing to myself, 222 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: like this is completely believable. I mean, I did not 223 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: expect him to join the army, but as I process it, yeah, yeah, okay, 224 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: of all the guys in professional sports in the world, 225 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: he's the one who would do that. Pat would leave 226 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: that Cardinal's locker room to join a different team with 227 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: a different plan, defending his country and his former teammates. 228 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: Remember the reactions like it was yesterday, Frank Sanders, Jake Plummer, 229 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: and former head coach Vince Toby. I saw Pat coming 230 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: out of the building and I was coming in where 231 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: the players only go into the lower area. I was 232 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: coming into the gates he was going out, and say, Pat, 233 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: are you doing? What's up with your contract? He said, Bro, 234 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna go to the military. I said what 235 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: he said, I'm gonna go to the army and be 236 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: arranged with my brother. So what you're gonna do? What 237 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: I want to start my country, That's what I'm gonna do, 238 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: I say, brother, God bless you. I just kind of 239 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: liked that sounds like, Pat, what can you do? I 240 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: remember getting a call from Mike Devlin, who was my 241 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: senter in my rookie year and now I was a 242 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: coach with the Cardinals. He said, Hey, you gotta call Pat. 243 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: He's about to do something that you know. I don't 244 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: know if he should do this. It's you know, he's 245 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: giving up all this money and giving up the game, 246 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: and I don't know, you should give him a shout? 247 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: And I kind of chuckled because I was like, if 248 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: Pat makes his mind up, he's made this decision and 249 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: his wife hasn't changed his mind, then what good am 250 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: I going to be to go try to change his mind. 251 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to piss him off before he goes 252 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: to fight for our country. I gave him a hug 253 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: and told him I love him and he'd be safe 254 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: out there man, because there was no change in his mind. Well, 255 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: he was all in. He believed in what he believed 256 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: in and believed it very strongly and acted on what 257 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: he's blazed Where a lot of people have blazed with 258 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: they don't act on him, and he did no matter 259 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: what he was doing, whether it's on the field or not, 260 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: he believed in himself so much so that he did 261 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: something that no one could fathom he would do and 262 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: go give up millions of dollars to go fight for 263 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: our country. Well, for Pat, it was just life. That 264 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: was what life was about, was doing what you believed 265 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: and living your life. And what's amazing is as media 266 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: friendly as Pat was as a player. All the interviews 267 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: that Pat did when he was at ASU and the Cardinals. 268 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: You can search the internet all you want, good Law 269 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: trying to find any interview that Pat did as a soldier. 270 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: Once again, Ken Summers from the Arizona Republic. One of 271 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: the things that really resonated with me was his refusal 272 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: to talk about it ever. It's like, I'm not in 273 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: it for that. I'm not in it for the stories. 274 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm not in it for a future movie or to 275 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: set myself up from business later. I have my reasons 276 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: for doing it. I'm not going to share them. They're 277 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: my reasons. So Pat left his cardinal's locker behind for 278 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: a foot locker. One more aspect of a person who 279 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: could have done virtually anything he set his mind to, 280 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: and quite often Pat did just that. Former teammate, a 281 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: long time Cardinal staffer, Anthony Edwards, on Pat's selfless act 282 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: to serve that's humility. I choose to serve my country. 283 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: I choose to go disrout instead of this one. The 284 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: more popular vote would be stay where you at, continue 285 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: to do what you're doing. But he didn't feel that 286 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: was enough. That wasn't satisfying. To him, Slee chose the other. 287 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: The news came out of Afghanistan that an athlete turned 288 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: soldier was gone. And when we heard the news on 289 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: that April day, it stopped us all in a long 290 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: and profound silence. And we all know why, because Pat 291 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: Tillman was a transcendent figure in the life of this nation. 292 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: Word of Pat Tillman's death came out early on the 293 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: morning of April twenty second, two thousand and four. Fans 294 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: created memorials at the Cardinals facility and in Pat's hometown 295 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: of San Jose. I remember waiting a line at Sundeville 296 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: Stadium to pay respects at an impromptu memorial. The news 297 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: hit with the ferocity of a Tillman tackle, and it 298 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: struck owner Michael Bidwell in fullback Larry Centers the same 299 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: way it was. I mean, it was a gut punch. 300 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: It was a kick to the stomach. Remember I was 301 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: standing in my closet that day, getting ready for working 302 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: to head into the office and my phone rang. You know, 303 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: it sent shivers down my spine and we realized it's 304 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: gonna be shocking news to everybody. Was in Dallas on 305 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: the golf course. I was playing with a couple of 306 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: guys who played in the NFL, and one of them 307 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: got a call or a text and said, hey, man, 308 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: Pat's Himan just died in Afghanistan. It was a jaw 309 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: dropping moment. I remember exactly where I was, like. I'm 310 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: sure a lot of the teammates can tell you exactly 311 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: what they were when they heard the news. As news 312 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: traveled through the Cardinals facility, it reached the locker room. 313 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: A long time trainer, John o'mahondre it weighed on us, 314 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: impacted us a lot, and the thought started going through 315 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: my mind a way that we could memorialize him or 316 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: remember him in some fashion in the training room. I 317 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: went down to pr ask him to give me a 318 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: photo of Pat. I took it and had it framed, 319 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: put it up over the tape table. So every day 320 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: everybody that came in got overseen by Pat, and guys 321 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: would get up on the table to get taped and 322 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: they could maybe this past thought on trying to live 323 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: up to his standards of toughness and dedication, being a warrior, 324 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: just all things that Pat was. The Tillman player photo 325 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: that John omahund referenced, well, if you walk into the 326 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: training room. Today, that frame picture sits in this same 327 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: exact spot, just like it did days after Pat's death. 328 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: I think there's a wow factor to it. I take, 329 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: for instance, J. J. Watt when he signed with the Cardinals, 330 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: he took a picture in front of it. It means 331 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: something to him. He's very familiar with the story. He's 332 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: involved with the Pat Tilman Foundation. I've obviously long been 333 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: a fan of Pat Tillman. What he stood for, who 334 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: he was, and everything about his legacy is unbelievable to me. 335 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: So to be here, to be walking the same hall 336 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: as that he walked, and to see his locker was 337 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: special for me. It made me feel good to see him, 338 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: the guy of his level, standing in front of that, 339 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: and it means something to him. That's the voice of 340 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: Jim o'mohandro, long time Cardinals broadcast producer, more than two 341 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: decades on the job, while his father, the aforementioned John o'mohandro, 342 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: spent forty two seasons as a Cardinals athletic trainer. A 343 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: couple of other long time Cards employees, Darren Urban and 344 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: Dave Pash, give us the scattered report. I would paint 345 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: Jim o'mohandro in this way he works for the team. 346 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: But I feel like in a lot of ways, Cardinals 347 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: DNA is literally in him. So I've been around the 348 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals my entire life. My dad was an athletic trainer 349 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: for the team for forty two seasons. I like to 350 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: say I was negative nine when he started with the team, 351 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: and so I was literally born into this organization. I 352 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: couldn't imagine it any other way. Cardinal football means so 353 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: much to him. Outside of the Bidwells who grew up 354 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: with Cardinal football, I can't think of anybody who has 355 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: a closer connection than the Bidwell family than the old 356 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: Hundre family because of the time and the energy that's 357 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: been spent rooting for the team. So when people ask 358 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: how exactly did the Tilman locker end up encased in 359 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: glass when every other locker is no moss, Well glad yes, 360 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: because remember earlier the story that we thought we knew 361 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: but didn't. Well, here we go, twenty fifteen, the Cardinals 362 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: locker room. It's a hard hat area, not your typical 363 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: football helmets, but construction workers. It's a day after the 364 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, kind of slow around the facility. So I 365 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: come over here to a Regano's just to get a 366 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: normal lunch. So I order a slice and a salad, 367 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: and I'm waiting for the food. So I'm scrolling through Twitter. 368 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: I see a tweet by Darren Urban that alerts me 369 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: to the renovation starting at our Tempi facility. So I 370 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: freak out. There's a photo with a destroyed locker on 371 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: the ground. So I had ordered my lunch, it hadn't 372 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: come yet, and I'm like, I gotta get out of here. 373 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: So i throw twenty dollars down onto the table and 374 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm out of there. I just run to my car, 375 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: drive down, get to the facility, run through the parking lot, 376 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: run through the auditorium, the weight room, the training room, 377 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: step into the locker room. The carpet is all torn up. 378 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: The glue from the carpet is there, and it rips 379 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: my shoe off my foot. So I'm hopping around the 380 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: corner to see two lockers on one wall and about 381 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: four lockers on the other. There's a guy with a 382 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: saw walking directly for Pat Tillman's locker. I said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 383 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: don't cut that one out. That's Pat Tillman's locker. So 384 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: that's what happened and prevented it from being destroyed. And 385 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: that is quite a series of events. I mean, think 386 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: of how razor thin that margin was. One more stop 387 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: like perhaps so or almost stopping to unglue his shoe, 388 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: and that Silman locker would have been turned into lumber. 389 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: That caught the attention of Cardinal's owner, Michael found out 390 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: an hour after it happened that Jim on the Hunter 391 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: was walking through and said, wait, don't touch that. And 392 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: so we're like, okay, we don't know what to do 393 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: with it right now, but we're going to do something. 394 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: And then because we were doing a renovation of the building, 395 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: we looked for an area where we could put it, 396 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: and the designers found what I think is a perfect 397 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: entry area right outside the locker room. So it's it's 398 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: a perfect area, and it's it's really a landmark within 399 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: our building and serves as an important reminder for his 400 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: sacrifice but also his spirit. Everybody who goes out to 401 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: the practice field, they walk by it. Everyone who comes 402 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: in from the practice field, they walk by it. And 403 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: if you look at the old footprint of the locker room, 404 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: it's literally on the other side of the wall, kind 405 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: of diagonal from where it was, and I think that's 406 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's kind of hallowed ground in a way. 407 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: Remember it'd been over a dozen years since Pat had 408 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: left his locker, so over those years, a number of 409 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 1: other players use that locker. Pat's final year in the 410 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: locker room was two thousand and one, so every year 411 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: after that, I would kind of look to see who 412 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: had that locker, and I'd make it a point to 413 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: go up to him and say, Hey, you know who's 414 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: locker you are sitting in, And they're like, who said 415 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: Pat Tillman. Some of them looked at me like I 416 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: was nuts, Like what this is Pat's locker? You know? 417 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: Someone that come to mind, Gabe Watson, former defensive tackle 418 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: oh Majandro told me, you share the same locker that 419 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: Pat Tillman hand. I'm like, are you serious? You know 420 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: what You're hearing the stories behind them, and it's only 421 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: a few people that can say I shared the same locker. 422 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: This honor to just need in any company with them. 423 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: John Fullington was a reserve offensive lineman who was the 424 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: final occupant of Pat's locker, and he was genuinely touched 425 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: I told him, and he was just like, I'm honored. 426 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: He didn't know what to say. So, you know, you 427 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: see guys that maybe had that locker. Then you see 428 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: guys that in future years will walk past that locker 429 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: and you kind of get the idea of what they 430 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: might feel about it. You know, the first time you 431 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: see Pat's locker on displaying, and as someone who sees 432 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: it on a daily basis now, it is a heck 433 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: of a first impression that makes for a lasting impression. 434 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: Here's bpmmeter relations Mark Dalton, followed by former Cardinals Larry 435 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: Centers and Anthony Edwards. When you get to that spot, 436 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: it's almost a universal reaction. People just stop and conversation 437 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: ceases and they just take it in and there's like 438 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: a solemn moment of reflection, which is really cool. Keeping 439 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: his legacy alive. I think that's a big step in 440 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: the right direction. You know, the generations go on and 441 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: the people the players come, and the players go. But 442 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: to see him immortalize in that way and appreciated by 443 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: the organization, I think that's a really good of the team. 444 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: It's a reminder as a player that's leaving out of 445 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: the locker room going to the practice field. Here's someone 446 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: was dedicated, committed to excellence, and whatever he did, let 447 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 1: us do the same thing and take it to the 448 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: field today and be out very best. So it comes 449 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: as a reminder I was driving for excellence. Each time 450 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: a guy walks by, they're gonna see Pat and as 451 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: locker there and remember, you know, hey, you could be 452 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: having a crappy day. You could be complaining about little things, 453 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: and then you see that and you check yourself a 454 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: little bit, say, Okay, there's thousands upon thousands of men 455 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: and women all over the world serving our country. You 456 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: know they can't afford to have a bad day. We 457 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: can afford to have a bad day. So you've got 458 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: it pretty good. In the NFL, everyone is looking for 459 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: impact players in Cardinals team history, and that is going 460 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: back more than a century. Not a single player on 461 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: the field and off combined is at a bigger impact 462 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: than Pat Tillman. Pat Tillman was all about team and 463 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: if you can walk past that and not get something 464 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: inside of you turning, we got some issues. Go back 465 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: to the whole idea of you know, it's not what 466 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: you say in life, it's what you do. And we 467 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: can all talk, but ultimately it's what we do. And 468 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: I think the lasting legacy of Pat Tillman is this 469 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: is someone who did, who believed in something and was 470 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: willing to risk his life for it. It's voice of 471 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinal's day, pass preceded by former Cardinals linebacker Mark 472 00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: Maddox make an impact players today when they see Pat 473 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: Tillman's locker, it says, challenge yourself to do as much 474 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: with your life as Pat did in his twenty seven years. 475 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: To me, that's what Pat's locker stands for, and that's 476 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: why it still stands today for all to see. To me, 477 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: when they keep his locker alive and his legend alive, 478 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: there it's telling the players to like, live your trueness, 479 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: to be who you are, and like, hey, you know, 480 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: don't go against the grain just because you want to 481 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 1: go against the grain. But if you have a feeling 482 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: and it's a thought and it's something you believe in, 483 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: and if it's against the grain, do it and trust 484 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: yourself because Pat was like that. And there you have it. 485 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: Cardinal Folktales legendary locker, the one locker that will never 486 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: change nameplates this same locker where we used to witness 487 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: Pat reclined between practices taking a snooze to refresh for 488 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: what was next. And that's just one tribute to Pat's 489 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: greatness that seemingly everyone has a story. In fact, I'll 490 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: share a quick one with you here. I knew a 491 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: guy at Asu went to school with them, and he 492 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: told me years later that he was Pat's next door 493 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: neighbor for a spell. One night he got home from work, 494 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: he pulled into his driveway and he couldn't help a notice. 495 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: There's Pat on his roof. His buddy of mine gets 496 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: out of his car. He's half stupefied and he yells out, hey, back, 497 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: what are you doing on your roof? And Pat looked 498 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: at him, Just watching the sunset. Dude, just watching the sunset. 499 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: And that was Pat. He took nothing for granted, and 500 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: he inspired others to do the same. But how do 501 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: you convey that, how do you pass that along? How 502 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: do you honor that? Well? The Cardinals do just that 503 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: every day by putting Pat's locker on display at their 504 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: training facility. Thanks for joining us everyone on Paul calBC. 505 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: This has been Cardinals Folk Tales Legendary Locker presented by 506 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: seventy two sold Thanks for listening.