WEBVTT - #53 - Kid Ink 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.280 All right, it's the Bootleg cap Podcast. We got a 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.080 special guest today. Shout out to my boy, kid Ink. 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:07.200 You know what I'm saying. He's gonna be on the 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:11.719 podcast today. He got a new album out. It's called 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:16.319 a Live uh and uh Yo. We talked for an hour, 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:18.840 hour and a half. Great conversation with the homie kid Ink. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:20.360 I've been friends with him for a very long time. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.640 Somebody who's done it independently, real big, somebody who's done 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.120 it on the major level, real big, and somebody who's 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:30.600 currently grinding on that independent hustle. His first studio album 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:34.240 in six years is officially out. So shout out to 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.400 kid Inc. And shout out to our sponsors. 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Yeah, 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.000 you got to turn the phones off, Brozz. First of all, man, 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.200 I feel like I ain't seen you since the pandemic. 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.400 Did I see that? I ain't seen you since the pandemic? 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.039 You know, did we see each other? I think I 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.200 saw you on FaceTime. Yeah, that's probably what it was, 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.920 you know, that's seeing people. Yeah, I think. Yeah. It's 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.720 been a crazy year. Man. How have you like, uh, 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.040 you know, how has the pandemic kind of like has 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.520 it affected what you do or what maybe with some 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.640 things you had planned? Like how did it kind of 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.000 affect life for you? Bro I mean it affected me 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.320 like everybody else as far as obviously the slow down 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.040 of traveling and work. I mean, I you know what 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:17.600 I'm saying, work traveling all day. So I had like 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:22.160 two overseas tours. I had like an Asia tour, I 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.519 had an Australia tour. I had a college run. As 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.720 soon as the pandemic hit, all that got shut Yeah, 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.639 I know, you do your runs in like the Middle East, 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.960 you go to Dubai, you all had a lot to do, 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.960 but everything was ready to go for that run, and uh, 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:38.320 you know what I'm saying. I had actually was in 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.000 Dubai February, and I had heard about everything that was 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:43.560 going on. I was as I was out there and 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.079 how it was like these possible lockdowns and da da dah. 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.600 And then I made it home just in time, like literally, 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.320 I think a couple of days after I made it home, 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.640 which actually had made it home. My daughter was born 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:58.120 the day I made it home on Valentine's Day, and 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.560 then the whole thing shut down, so I had to 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.520 handle all that. Like, so was the day you got 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.120 because it was your wife with you in Dubai because 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.000 I was with you. She didn't go with you because 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.880 she was pregnant, close to delivering. So you know you 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:12.360 got back the day she gave birth. Yeah, so you 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.560 can you imagine if you would have gotten the next day. Yeah. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.520 I was in there in the airport, sweat ship. I 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.200 gotta get back fast, like hold on, just don't don't 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.720 like yeah no, literally in the airport. Hold on, I'm 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.480 gonna be it in a minute. Just couples, just chill, yeah, 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.320 to layover please, damn. That's crazy. That's baby number two, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.320 baby number two. Wow. And that was different because I 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.640 had to like really handle all that, you know what 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.360 I'm saying, loo with the crib. Everything was kind of 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.840 shut down. We weren't able to go to the hospital. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.080 And then you're being like extra careful because you got 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.080 a baby. I was super But I guess that was 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:49.000 easy too, because having a new baby you already super careful. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.520 So I was already stocked up on everything like hand 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.680 sanitizers and this and that and everything that people was 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.520 panicking over. For a minute. I was a little stocked 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.840 up early because I already had to worry. I was. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.120 I was the same way. As soon as we had 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.320 a shout out doc Winner. He had like some homie 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.600 who worked for I don't know, some government agency and 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:11.600 was like, Yo, this ship's really about to get shut down. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.240 I think it was about a week before it happened. 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.120 And I went to Ralphs and just I was that 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.600 asshole who had like cases of rom I still in 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.760 my garage, still have like a whole entire supply of 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.120 ship that is like just sitting there. It's a bunch 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.440 of y'all, man because y'all y'all went to the store 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.440 and cleaned it out. And then I went to the store. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.120 It was dry. I just I just ran out of 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.880 toilet paper. I ain't bought toilet paper in a year. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.720 Yesterday I went down to the closet to see, like, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.440 I gotta go get the new I was like, we 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.919 were finally out. Why was everybody so worried about toilet paper? 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:47.400 Because ass paper is like essential, bro, imagine that was 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.720 the most essential thing. Like every time you take a ship, 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:53.000 you gotta take a shower. Then if you don't have 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:57.240 the toilet paper, I'm like that too. Listen, if it's 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.000 a rough, if it's a rough, if it's one of those, 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.520 you got to jump in the shower, you know obviously, 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.200 but you know, shout out to my wife. You know, 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.239 I'm like, listen, if we're gonna have sexna take shower anyways, 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:10.320 you don't got to worry about it. Nonetheless, damn, So 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:14.240 you're raising an infant during COVID, your wife. You were 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:15.719 just telling me your wife just opened a new business 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.159 during COVID. Yeah, so you was just dealing with a 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.400 lot of shit. Huh. It was a lot going on. 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:24.400 But I think, you know, I set myself up luckily, 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.680 Like I was already working on the gym, so like 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:30.719 everybody who was like dang the gym closed, I was 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.560 in the garage getting getting crazy. And then, uh, you 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.359 know what I'm saying, I got the studio at the house, 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.960 So that was like mandatory of just you know what 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.120 I'm saying with the crib. You know what I'm saying, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.160 it's worked. I ain't got nowhere else to go, I 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.200 ain't traveling nothing, So it was easier to kind of 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.479 think dial in and just be creative and just have 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.000 fun because it really wasn't nothing else to think about 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:52.800 or worry about like that. So a lot of this 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.240 album did you record it at home? All of it? 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:56.919 All of it recorded at the crib, All of it. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.480 I recorded at the crib, mixed at the crib, at 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.560 the crib. Everything was so you kind of rushed this 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:08.839 whole joint. Yeah, man I besides, you've worked with the producer. Yeah, 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:13.160 because of what it is. Man I definitely I put it, 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.080 and it took a little longer than I wanted, just 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.960 because of course I was telling you earlier. It started 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:20.719 off as like this type of idea and it was 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.360 only going to do seven records, and I love these 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.640 seven records so much, and I was like, man, I 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:27.640 feel like I need like three more I need And 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.120 then it started to grow into this big album and 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.320 it turned into a full album. That's why even before 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.080 it was like two songs that we had dropped, because 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.440 it wasn't really a thought process of doing that album 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.240 until we dropped those two songs. And it's seeing how 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.360 manyism were working together and how easy it was. Because 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:44.920 I could have put together a project with a bunch 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:46.719 of different producers. I get all kind of beasts. I 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.200 still got so many different records, but the business still, 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.800 you know what I'm saying, takes time and clearing people, 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.320 and there's much easier to just work with one guy. 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.880 We got an agreement and get it done, especially when 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.120 you're not working with the big label who you know 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:02.760 what I'm saying, maybe a lot of those people are 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.640 already cleared your label, or it's just an easier system 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.320 where you know what I'm saying, I'm independent, and we 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.000 got to handle a lot of clearing and making sure 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.840 these are selling points and publishing and keeping track of 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.559 all that stuff. And it was like, Ism is the homie. 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.880 He's been the homie. We've already had records together, and 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.360 he's nice and he's a gold low key and so 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.240 you know what I'm saying, We just it was somebody 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:25.920 I felt like I could work with and get so 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.960 many different type of records done compared to you know 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:30.840 what I'm saying, if I worked with some other producer, 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.400 maybe it would just all sound to the same to 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:38.640 where it still sounds cohesive. But it's not like box tend. So, uh, 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:40.640 when you first went independent, you came on me and 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.880 had shown and like we did an interview, announced it 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.360 and you know, made a big deal of it. You've 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.840 been independent for a while, now, what are the thing 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.160 I mean? You started off independent, this is how you 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.480 came into the game. You know, what I'm saying, by 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:58.280 the way, is up in the way gold Now yeah, 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.960 I think so, I know records off of it are 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.360 gold or definitely records are you know, I don't, I 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.240 gotta it's got to be closing with all the numbers. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.800 But I just waiting and be giving me placks like yo, 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.920 this would gold. Then it feels great when the indie 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.760 records go go because like, plus, that's more money in 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.240 the bank, you know what I mean, more money in 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:17.640 the bank, and it just you know what I'm saying 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.280 makes me feel a little bit more like you know 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.000 what I'm saying, even now with just records like I 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.640 did all this dolo, some of them in the closet, 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.920 like you know, for it was any bread and those 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.520 records got plaques. Now they definitely still mean a little 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.920 bit more sometimes and those other records that I kind 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.719 of knew we're gonna go, like that's gonna go, It's 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.040 gonna be it's gonna be one. No. But like coming 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.280 back to being independent and being back in that space 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.200 for a while now, like what are the things that 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.840 you've kind of like had to adjust two that you 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:51.800 weren't used to with being with RCA, for so long 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:55.040 because you had a very long run with RCA. Adjusting 0:08:55.240 --> 0:09:01.120 I mean, I guess, you know, because it's everything is 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:05.800 more hands on, Like I said, clearances and just certain 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.640 things as far as the business are probably a little 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.360 bit more, but I'm not as you know what I'm saying. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.280 Luckily I got will you know what I'm saying, helped 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.040 me with the business side of things, while I still 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:18.720 have to do the creative side. But I mean, of 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:22.920 course relationships might be a little bit different. You know, 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:27.760 for me going independent, I'll tell you know that I 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:32.000 don't get an independent rate. So everything that's like was 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.400 already what it was, or features or production costs, a 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.640 lot of that stuff is still the same as when 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:41.320 Kittink was with RCA. So I think that's still just 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.040 coming out of my bags, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:44.920 I guess you know, those are certain things you gotta 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.560 probably adjust to more than you know what I'm saying, 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.440 when you are a little bit more free with doing 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:55.720 certain things or samples and you know, just keeping it 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.680 a little bit more in house so you don't have 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.480 to worry about all these other stresses that you were 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.880 able to let somebody else worry about, right, because it's 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.080 a whole team of all the variables you now got 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.199 to deal with, supposed to keeping it kind of like 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.240 like you said, like, hey, when with one producer, I 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:10.600 means we gotta do with one guy to get these 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:15.079 records clear, ye, opposed to like getting you know what 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.160 I'm saying, stuff back and you be it's just the 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.120 business come back and you be like DANMG, why y'all 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.560 gotta make this so difficult, Like you know what I'm saying. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.080 I'm just I'm rocking, like we're doing independent. Let's just 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.800 put something out. Let's just work everybody wants to Yeah, 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.080 not even like we'll figure it out and I'm gonna 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.640 make sure everybody's taking care of it, not most importantly, 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:33.920 you know what I'm saying, make sure you get your 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.920 bag up front. But I think when it comes down 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:40.960 to all that extra points and publishing stuff that I 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.480 don't my brain don't get all the way into like that, 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.760 I started getting confused, Like, man, that's been a month 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.040 since we've been talking about all this. I don't even 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:49.880 want to do this record no more, Like I wanted 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.760 to put this out in this timeframe right now, and 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.240 I've had that happen where I didn't get a record 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:56.800 out when I wanted to put it out because the 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.880 business took so long. And then it's like, bro, I 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.520 just this was a summer. Now it's November, and you 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.200 just want me to feel like I got the same energy. 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.400 I'm gonna get the same response from this. So again, 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.240 working with Isam, it was like, all right, I could 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.920 lock these records and I could tell him this is 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:13.679 my beat, like I want to lock this in and 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.480 I don't have to worry about two weeks later, a 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.920 month later, he telled me like, yo, I sold I 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:20.760 saw that beat. I gave it to someone, the one 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.800 that you had, Like I gave it someone else. And 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.280 it's crazy what happens to me four times a year 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.480 because you know, producers just be sending out packs and 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.360 then records that I felt like, oh, this is my single, 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.280 and unfortunately and then they'd be like, well, look this 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.520 other guy's got it, and you know it's a major label. 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.920 It's a bigger bag, right, And then I'm gonna, of 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.719 course I want to tell you like nah, but I'm 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.520 not gonna tell my homie, like especially somebody I rock with, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.520 like don't go get the bag and make you know. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.040 It's definitely a trade now and I'm gonna let you 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.720 go get this bag, bro, So take care of me 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.719 the next go around. Take care me these packs when 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.280 you get hot, don't don't forget. But you know it 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.360 is what it is. So you have like a pretty 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.439 wild journey as far as like you're come up. You 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.160 came up with like a just a crazy culte following 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:11.400 fan base, mixtapes, your first independent album, and then when 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:16.120 you signed, you caught one would show me. That was 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.320 like fucking how many streams is that thing? How many 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.040 times platinum is that record? I mean, I don't know. 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.559 It definitely went on one of Chris Brown's like records, 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:29.120 and I was like, oh, breaking records for Chris It's 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:33.160 but it wasn't. Let's let's be real though. It wasn't 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.400 as if I got signed though, and then like showed 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.160 me came out. No, no, no, you were putting out 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.440 other records. But we did. We did try like the 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:44.240 Meek Mill right, the Badass record, and I had a 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.160 couple other singles and I think what was the one 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:50.920 lifted produced it? Fuck? It had like a screwed up 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.120 like hook the Boston Up. We had the Boston Up 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.640 record that I remember through Ferg and French from the remix, 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.599 and then we had some I had some records that 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.680 were going you know, you had records still for the 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.200 more so for the core fans. But I felt like, 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.280 definitely when this show Me hit, it was like show 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.240 Me was like over right, So then like you kind 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.160 of go on this run where you have all of 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.440 these records that are kind of in similar vein to 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.440 show Me. Not necessarily the same, but like you know, 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:22.079 R and B hooks, one hundred bpm type joints. You 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:26.400 know what I'm saying. Very successful, huge tours. You're all 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.760 Chris Brown Tory, I mean all these tours. Do you 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:34.199 feel like that that kind of started to eat away 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:38.440 at your like core following or like the ability for 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.079 new fans to come in and tap in with like 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.559 what some of your earlier fans fell in love with, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.480 because I feel like a lot of fans, kind of 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.559 the newer fans that were coming in, yeah, started to 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.319 kind of just see you as like the radio guy. Definitely, 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:56.319 it was definitely like I had two separate fans, especially 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:57.920 when you would go to the shows and I would 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.719 have to like please the core fans and the new 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.440 fans at the same time, and you can see the 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.080 difference and the energies or whatever. But I think, you know, 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.640 at the time when show Me came out, I love 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.760 the record, but it wasn't in my head that it 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:14.959 was like, all right, we're gonna keep busting these down 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.280 more so than people were asking for me to bust 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.080 those down. Like the DJs was telling me like, yeah, 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.680 we love this, and you know what I'm saying. Make 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.640 sure you know what I'm saying always, you know, And 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.000 it felt like something that was simple too, and everybody 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:28.640 was telling me, hell, you sound great doing it, you 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.760 sound comfortable doing this, and it was like, all right, cool, 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.360 you know what I'm saying. I'll rock with it is, 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.560 you know, much as the hits come through, Like I'm 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.360 not gonna run away from a hit record, but uh, 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.360 I definitely wasn't looking forward to it being like the 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.520 not necessarily I'm gonna take credit for, you know what 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.720 I'm saying, having a sound, but people like that's the 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.880 kidding sound. I don't want them to be like that's 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.400 the only sound you can do. Kidding can do. For 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.560 the new fans, because I know it's fans that know 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.480 what it is. Because like Time of Your Life, which 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.440 was kind of the first record that you had any 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.000 radio success with, Yeah, was I think like sixty some 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.760 odd bpms. It was super melodic and it was just 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.560 you and those to me, when I talk to certain people, 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.240 like those are kidd Ink records, like for a nice group, 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.800 especially people who really know me and people who've been rocking. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:15.840 Like when I put on something like that, they go, 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.080 that reminds me of a kidd Ink record or the 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.480 up and away vibes. It's like, that's a Kidding record, 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:24.280 and that's the album that a lot of people familiarized 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.600 with me before Show Me. They're like, this is the 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.560 sound that he had or the type of music he 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.320 was creating. And then you know, when Show Me came out, 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.520 not only did was it, it was a whole new 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.240 way to even listen to music at one point too. 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.240 Like you know what I'm saying, The people who were 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.760 listening to those other records sometimes still go to those 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.240 old websites and stuff to listen to that stuff because 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.040 it's not even available nowhere. Yeah, people still be going 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.880 on there, like, Yo, what I've had somebody ask me like, yo, 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.720 you should put something out on that PIF, and I 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:56.960 was like, so just so you could listen to it, 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.480 Like I'm trying to figure that's not what you know, 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.560 what I mean shout out to that PIF, not shout out, 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.240 but I'm just saying it would be stupid of you 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:07.440 to put something out solely on that PIF would make 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.800 any sense. Right, So it's like the new fans who 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.000 only get up to what they got on Spotify and 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.320 Apple and all that stuff like that they got. They 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.360 can only backtrack so far. And I'll be thinking too, 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.400 like it'll people like, yo, you should do a feature 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.000 with this person. I'd be like I did. I did 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.280 like two back then. I mean, they're not on the 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.600 streaming that works now, but it is what it is. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:32.280 So I don't know what else, you know, what I'm 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.840 saying to do besides that, but accept it and then 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.480 just move forward and kind of just work through it. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.640 And now just showing proven that I'm independent, I got 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.320 obviously more rooms, So yeah, now you're independent and you 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:46.240 can do whatever you want. At the same time, I 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:52.000 had this like I remember when Tiger was making like 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.760 before it tastes happened. Tiger was making some wild records 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.040 that were like, what are you doing? Bro? Like I 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.400 forget he was, he was singing and there R and 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.280 B album right, it was, it was. It was horrible. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.640 It just wasn't good. Shout out to Tiger. I'm saying 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.639 me personally, I did not. I did not enjoy that. 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.920 And I remember just thinking to myself, like, bro, this 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.960 ship is a no brainer. Like Tiger just put out 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.840 some Tiger ship and then he put Taste out and 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.359 I was like, bruh, I feel you on that? Do 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.439 you feel like because I heard you got some some 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.000 ship in the cut? I actually heard the record. You 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.200 got a rumor shout out to Yeah, shout out bro. 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.080 I don't know if it was Nelly's supposed to be 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.440 got on that song. Uh, we we played it. What 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.679 happened was we played it for Nelly. Uh I think, 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:35.199 I think because I think when Rumor played it for me, 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:36.840 He's like, yo, Nelly's getting on this. Yeah. We had 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.480 played it for Nelly and brought it through and then 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.080 instead we ended up doing two other records and Nelly 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.680 for you and me. Rumor and Nelly did one other 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:50.439 record and me and Nelly got like four records in 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.720 the can that should just be working because that's the bro. 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.080 So sometime he'll just pull up to the crib and 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.959 then I just be playing play. But I guess, like 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:02.199 I feel like you have the like kind of the 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.040 like like if you were to do a record like 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:10.399 show me or you know whatever right now independently, Yeah, 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.480 you make so much money off of that song right 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.879 because it's yours now. So I mean, cause I know 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:19.920 you made a conscious decision to be like, Yo, don't 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.800 send me these beats, Like don't like like this is 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.680 you know, I'm close with you and your team, So 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.639 I'm like, like, I know you made a conscious decision 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.760 to be like, look like stop sending me Mustard beats. 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.439 Stop sending me you know these kind of records. Have 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.800 you thought like, Yo, look now that I'm independent, Like 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.679 if I catch one now, it's like way different. Have 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.520 you thought of like saying like, hey, fuck it, let's 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.159 see what happens? Like absolutely, I think I think what 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.119 it was was when I was asking people not to 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.119 send me that stuff, I just needed it for like 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:53.040 my mental like creative space to be able to open 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.480 up and not just I just needed it for myself, 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.720 so because I was feeling boxed in or insecure about 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.560 if I could take it different directions still, whatever the 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.640 case may be. So but of course I looked back 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.439 and even just listening to certain records or just getting 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.399 beats and then just having something to it so quickly 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.960 and being like, dang, this is low Kia smash. I 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.720 definitely told myself like, I'm not running away from nothing, 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.639 especially now that you know what I'm saying, Summer's on 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:22.320 the way. I got a nice little stash up for 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:26.080 the summer, and I know that, you know, it's a 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.080 vibe that people you know what I'm saying, enjoy and 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:29.920 I know that I love making you know what I'm saying, 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.240 music that make people feel good. And I've been missing 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.399 the summer. I'm not gonna lie. So I've heard some 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.760 songs that you don't have out that are like what 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.320 was the There's a record that I know Will was 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:43.000 trying to get Kane Brown on. Oh yeah, that's like 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.760 a hitch, that's like and that shit's like a year 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:47.680 and a half, two years old. That's like a smash. 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:49.679 Like these are records that you just got it, just 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.200 tucked off. But it just needs the perfect the perfect 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.120 person singing on that hook, and I just it gotta 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.200 get right. You feel me though, like you got records 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.760 like that that are like crazy and it was like 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:03.760 I think it was just all the time and things 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.840 like that's like a soundtrack or like the theme song, 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.360 like you know, summer slam type, shit fast and furious type. 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.879 You know what I'm saying exactly the movie. Do you 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.680 feel kind of like if you know you have like okay, 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:20.119 look like you said, I got you got shit tucked 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:21.680 like this? To me, I think is like a dope 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.840 project because it's something that's like you're independent now, so 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.080 why not do a whole project with a producer? Right? 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.639 But if you know, like hey, look I got this, this, this, 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:33.600 and this, being independent, is it like a little bit 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.200 harder to be like, look, guys, if we're going to 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:40.359 drop this, we gotta make sure we got all of 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.480 these ducks in a row because we want to make 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:47.760 sure it has the best chance to be as big 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.159 as it should be. Does it give you kind of 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.040 cold feet to drop something like that now that you're 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.159 independent or is it like more like timing, like like 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:58.560 you know what I'm saying, because you got like you said, 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:00.639 you have some big records, bro, Like I feel like 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.879 your biggest joints you have you've been sitting on. That's 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:06.240 what people tell me all the time. Now, I think 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:10.960 it's definitely a timing thing. I don't like you said 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.640 getting the ducks in a row for sure. Like after 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.600 I got the project done, it was more so like, 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:19.359 all right, now, how we're gonna line it up a 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.920 certain way and give ourselves enough time to be able 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:26.200 to do boom boom boom boom. Could it was like initially, 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.200 initially I was like I wanted to put it out 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:31.640 at this time. It went two months over the time 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:33.480 I wanted to put out, just trying to perfect it 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.520 the way I wanted it to sound. And then of 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.840 course I immediately wanted to put it out. But then 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.159 you step back and it's like, I'm not gonna do that. 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.480 It's not a surprise project. Like I want to give 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:45.400 it its full potential and you know what I'm saying, 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:48.639 let it be seen and heard and give it what 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:51.040 it needs to really, you know what I'm saying, have 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.880 some success instead of just putting it out and which 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:56.120 with records I've done before. By just wanting to put 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.320 something out just to have content out right, and then 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.440 they got to kind of get overlooked, just not because 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:05.880 the record wasn't hot, it got overlooked because it wasn't 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:08.520 put out in a certain manner to you know what 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:12.440 I'm saying succeed. So with this project, I definitely it 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:14.520 first kind of just wanted to get the content out 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.199 and let people kind of gravitate towards it the way 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:19.640 they want. But I still want to have some type 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.680 of impact, especially being from where I was to go 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:24.560 on independent. I don't want to low ball and be 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:26.720 like I'm independent now and now I'm not doing things 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.560 it's big, Like I'm not giving you, you know what 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.800 I'm saying, the same type of energy because I'm independent. 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:34.280 I'm just throwing some music out there and seeing what happens. Like, 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:36.200 I definitely don't want it to do thathing like that. 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.480 There's been this big narrative in music over the last 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:45.000 few years about going independent ownership. You know, Kanye led 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:47.240 a lot of that with the publishing shit, and and 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:49.760 obviously Russ has been screaming that shit at the top 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:53.040 of it. You know, Tory Lane just went independent. Yeah, 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:58.360 before you shot making in the feats allegedly, but it's 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:01.320 kind of been like, you know, I think that we 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:05.080 kind of recognize like if you have a cold following, 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:10.160 if you have fans like the major label, can they 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.920 can throw gasoline on a fire that's already going on? Right? 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:16.440 But the fire is already there. So it's like talk 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.680 about how important it is and like just like coming 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.320 into your own as an independent artist again, like the 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:24.280 second go round, Like how does it feel? Like? How 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:29.520 are you like? Like is being independent the way for 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.760 you now? Moving forward? Would you ever sign another deal 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:34.800 or like you know what I mean, like the second 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.480 go round? How's a feeling? Oh, I couldn't say I 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:41.600 wouldn't sign another deal in general. I mean, I definitely 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.720 want to see how this run goes. I don't you know, 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.960 I have certain expectations for myself, but I just want 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:49.320 you know what I'm saying, I definitely want to see 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.840 how it goes and see how I move forward from there. 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:55.399 I am in a good space, you know what I'm 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:58.640 saying with my independent situation. I feel like, especially after 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:00.600 this project that you know I'm saying, I'll be able 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.439 to figure out what I want to do and I 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.920 expect probably to you know what I'm saying, get some 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:08.879 calls in, and I'm gonna have to make some decisions. 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.720 But I don't know. I mean, if it makes sense, 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:18.320 because I understand so if the project, it's not the 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:20.240 only project I plan on putting out, by the way, 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.800 but if this project, you know what I'm saying, gets 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:26.880 the response that I wanted to get in, it kind 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:30.560 of shines the light on the creative and the different 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:34.080 ways I can go, and then that sparks an interest 0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:36.439 in you know what I'm saying, a major label or 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:40.800 a bigger independent label or whatever that understands that direction, 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.560 and I feel comfortable about them understand that, and I 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.439 can continue to do what I'm doing with that backing, 0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:48.720 of course, because that's how it was when I first 0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:50.399 went in, and it felt that, you know what I'm saying, 0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:52.880 confident about I can continue to do what I want 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:54.480 to do and it's going to continue to get back. 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.919 The only problem that had happened with the label before 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.440 was like you're saying, what me doing what I wanted 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:03.240 to do, but then having to show me record be 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.280 way more successful than anything I did before compared to 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.720 probably some independent artists that had a platinum record before 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:11.399 they came in, and then you know what I'm saying, 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.479 I had a lot of success, but for them, they 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:17.439 probably still felt like this record did way bigger. So 0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.160 you know what I'm saying, we'll put more energy into 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.359 when you give us that type of stuff. If the 0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:24.399 you know what I'm saying, a newer situation is like 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:28.240 whatever you want to dose blah will give you this, this, this, 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:29.880 this and that and make it work for me, then 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:31.440 you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna hear them out. 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.640 But also if this project, you know what I'm saying, 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:38.040 skyrockets and the bag is you know what I'm saying, crazy, 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.720 keep running up. Might as well keep running it up. 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:43.080 I'm not gonna be you know what I'm saying, Just 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.800 jump into it if I could, because I understand the system. 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:48.960 So it's not like I don't understand how to run 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:52.879 my own situation like a major label or you know 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:56.359 what I'm saying, put it together and don't have the relationships, 0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:57.840 or you know what I'm saying, don't know how to 0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.199 take that bag and reinvest it the right way. So 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:02.760 you know, I know how to like I've been doing. Now, 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:04.320 I know how to put together this, I know how 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:06.399 to shoot videos, I know how to it's not you know, 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.160 I know how to market, and we know how to 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:11.160 get yourself sustained. TikTok. And I mean, yeah, I think 0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:13.960 that that's like right to do because really, if you 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:15.920 think of the major label ship, the really the thing 0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:17.920 that they could do is just give you an upfront bag. 0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:20.080 That's really all it is. And that upfront bag you 0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.399 gotta recoup at a shitty rate for the most part 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:27.199 most people, you know, but you know they can, like 0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.159 I said, pour gasoline on the fire. But if you 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.880 kind of got the right partner or you have your 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:35.440 ship together on your own, like really, what can they do? Right? 0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.119 But mind anything I probably do, Like with a major label, 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:39.960 it's gonna be a one and done. So yeah, like 0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.200 and I'm not going in for no, like three to 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.360 five five years, Like like, look, I got I got, 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.840 I got these records, they need infrastructure. Let's let's see 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.000 how it works and then I'm out and I'll make 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.639 you guys a bag, because I mean I understood that's 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.920 kind of what I did for the other label with 0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:58.880 you know what I'm saying, getting them such a good 0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.840 enough bag the beginning, I could have, you know what 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.399 I'm saying, just been off the situation and continue to 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.160 do something else, and they would have succeeded equally because 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:11.440 they what I gave them was good enough to clear 0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.120 out and you know what I'm saying, being the green 0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.320 and dip out. So yeah, they still making that same 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.240 consistent bread off those records. So you know what I'm saying, 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.119 that was a successful deal. It was successful. Yeah, I 0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.080 mean they made money. I thought that they really fumbled 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:29.000 that last record or as well with Sweety and Wayne. Yeah, 0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.639 that was fumbled. I don't know who to blame it on. 0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:33.840 We jumped on that record so earlier real and I 0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:35.800 was like, guys, this is the kidd In record. This 0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.119 is like we gotta go crazy. And then I just 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.719 felt like the label never backed it up, right. But 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:44.960 I mean, you know what I'm saying, always makes me 0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:46.920 feel good to open the doors and you know what 0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.960 I'm saying, be ahead of the curve and you know 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:54.120 what I'm saying, look at everybody on their bumper now. Yeah, 0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.879 I mean shit, that was really with Sweety too. Yeah, 0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:00.960 I was like, record could have been and uh, what's 0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.600 the name. Didn't he a to be? Yeah, he hated 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:09.080 to be and yeah yeah paper on paper, that's a smash. 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:13.760 I don't know what happened. So, you know, even the 0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:16.040 record you have a tief your EP a few years ago, 0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.120 I thought it could have been huge, which was still 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:19.840 that was still a big record, But I feel like 0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.720 with the use of record, I think there were obviously 0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.679 still some things that could have been lined up and 0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:27.840 probably situated, so it wasn't. Maybe it's rushed out as 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:29.959 I probably wanted it to be out too, as everybody 0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:31.920 like I needed a record out. We put this together 0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.080 boom boom boom, but probably could have you know what 0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.159 I'm saying, I don't know, done something different. But the 0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.680 Tie record, you know, I think that was still a big, 0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.720 a big record for me. I think at the time 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:45.800 what it was was which is weird because yeah, all 0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.040 the fans want a certain situation for me, but I 0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.400 think at that time it was a time maybe when 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.440 I needed to kind of not switch it up, but 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.920 just maybe throw something in different right before that that 0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:02.360 kind of made it missed that right, that sound of 0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:05.200 that vibe and then come back to it instead of 0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:08.320 it being maybe something a little too consistent. So people 0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.560 were kind of like all right, but like kind of 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.200 how when main Chick, which was wasn't my move, but 0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:14.920 how main Chick came out right off to show me 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.959 how they weren't able to get to that because they 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.680 were still here. So like, you know, it's crazy because 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:22.200 Main Chick if you would have, like you said, if 0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:23.720 you would have had a bridge record in between those 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.040 two records, may Chick probably would have been. I mean, 0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:27.360 the main Chick was a big record, was still a 0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.880 big record, a big record, but it could have been huge. 0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.520 It could have i think, had its own legs and 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.480 been crazy instead of feeling like a follow up yeah, 0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.080 because people were still playing show me Yeah, because show 0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.320 Me research so well radio. That was like one of 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:41.840 those songs that didn't go away for like a year 0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.800 and a half on the radio because of researched so well. 0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:45.480 So you dropped the follow up and it sad. It's like, yo, 0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:47.600 I'm already playing I'm still playing the other ship. Yeah. 0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.800 And then people telling me that to my face was like, yeah, 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.800 how come they didn't know that that was something that 0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:57.920 somebody That's not something I was They were supposed to 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:01.080 know because that's their job. So yeah, I don't know 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:06.520 how they are you finding it easier to, like, cause 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.600 because like I said, you came into game with this 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.840 crazy fan base. Since you've come back to being independent 0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:14.840 and you've been dropping a lot more often. Like I think, 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:16.880 was it twenty nineteen you were dropping it felt like 0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:18.440 once every month, you were putting a new week. We 0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:20.120 did like one a week. It was a lot of 0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.680 songs in two months. I think you're dropping a lot 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:26.239 of records. Have you found it easier to kind of 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:30.280 rehash that fan base and like re like kind of 0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.000 because I feel like you, you know, turning into a superstar. 0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.720 Sometimes you lose those core fans because they kind of 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:38.680 feel like, ah, well, yeah, you know what I mean. 0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.640 Have you found it easier to try to like bring 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.800 those guys back into the fold or build that back 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.520 up a little bit, because now, I mean, it's certain 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.440 fans I think that are back to rooting for me 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.840 because they feel like I'm the underdog. And then you know, 0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.200 I could feel like at the end of twenty nineteen 0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.720 when I was had this idea and making this run, 0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:02.720 and then twenty twenty half and the energy kind of 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:04.920 shifted a little bit. Of course, of course, I like 0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.920 had records lined up in different things, but it's a 0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.600 timing thing too. I remember having certain records that I 0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.200 felt like were ready to go, and it was kind 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.120 of like, yeah, but not anymore, so like we're gonna 0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:16.320 have to wait until this one is you know what 0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.440 I'm saying, give it four or five months and then 0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.520 see if the energy is back ready for it. So 0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.160 that definitely kind of helped. I mean I helped, but 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.479 it definitely kind of slowed down my run. But at 0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.560 the same time, I think gave me some more just 0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.000 creative time to get some stuff together and figure some 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.360 stuff out. And in the midst of recording this project too, 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:39.800 I think I was able to open up just getting 0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.720 back into more sinks. Sinks. I don't know if a 0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.920 lot of people know, like movies, TV shows, commercials and stuff, 0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.200 those are big. I don't know, Like I've always had 0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.600 a niche with just writing records that just you know 0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.560 what I'm saying, resonate over there with that sinking game, 0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.560 and I got back into that, and you know what 0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:00.360 I'm saying, I think I'm on because whatever I've done 0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:03.000 like two I've had like two fast and Furious Movies 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:04.880 were working on another one. They you know what I'm saying, 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.719 people were sending Space Jam ideas and this and that, 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:11.040 and it was doing trolls and all these different movies 0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:12.680 was coming out, and I think, I, you know what 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.280 I'm saying, just tap back in and just writing for 0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.960 that type of game. And so your records, the records 0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.320 you write for, like like, are those like your records 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.080 ended up on that stuff or is sometimes just stuff 0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.080 that you write that ends up someone else doing them 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.320 or so like this. So I've had a couple of 0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.640 different ones, like sometimes you'll get the list that'll tell 0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.440 you what they need and then you get, you know 0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:33.040 what I'm saying to it, just start writing a bunch 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.840 of different stuff to send it through. And then I've 0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:38.520 had records that like there was a record I did 0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:43.160 on the Ism project for the album that I lost 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.400 to a movie sink because you know what I'm saying 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.680 ISNM played it for his people and they were like, Yo, 0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.600 that would be perfect for this movie and I was like, yeah, 0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.600 but that's for my album. So like that was another 0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:55.120 thing that happens where it has set me back to 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.920 because I think losing that one record, which I felt 0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.960 like I needed and it had a and sounds set 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.600 me back and I had to replace that with like 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.719 I need so that happens. Does that song then just 0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.880 belong to the movie company. Yeah, So like they're like, hey, look, 0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:11.600 we're putting this in the movie. It's ours if we 0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:13.360 put it out on the soundtrack. Yeah. So, like I 0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.280 sold it to them, and then they you know what 0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:18.560 I'm saying through you know what I'm saying. Whoever, they 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:20.560 wanted a couple different rappers on there and maybe had 0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.040 somebody racing the hook blah, and then you know what 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:26.600 I'm saying, I send it to me. I added some stuff, 0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:27.920 or you should put some ad libs here, you know 0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:29.560 what I'm saying. We still work on the record together, 0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:31.560 but once it's there, it's it's there to do it, 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.800 you know what I'm saying. They went for the movie, 0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:35.600 right right, right right? Yeah. I think the scene game 0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:37.600 is a part of the game that a lot of 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.520 artists don't understand or like understand even how to get 0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.640 involved in that. Because you'll hear some records you're be like, man, 0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:44.080 this should be great on a movie or something. I 0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.240 don't even people understand that world. It's like it feels 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.480 like a different world, right, the movies, the sports is 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:53.400 big for me. Like I had the Dodger championship song 0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:58.280 and the song that they play that's a bad series opener. Yeah, 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.880 so the Dodgers just shoot a bag, you know what 0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:06.080 I'm saying. Some tickets maybe, but uh it will and 0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.200 then uh so like I get those I've had different 0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.640 you know what I'm saying, Like championship spots, video games 0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:13.400 like all that stuff. It's real fun to me, Like 0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:15.680 that was something that growing up I always wanted, so 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.240 like I always wanted to have a song on the radio, 0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:19.600 but then like I got a song in the video games. Yeah. 0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.360 The video game ship is like could you we always 0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:24.520 be playing Madden or two K and it's or even 0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.359 like Tony Hawk when I was growing up, like all 0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:29.040 them songs like you Knew by Heart by Heart Bro's 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.760 songs I know with the records at all. It's songs 0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:35.719 I know from like Dave Mirror that I've never Yeah, 0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.239 because it's like you play the game so much, like, oh, 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.480 this ship is crazy playing. I was walking around singing 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.200 these songs friends, like what is this? Did you play 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.399 the new Tony Hawk like remastered edition that came out 0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.319 not okay, so I want to I had to buy. 0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.360 I had to step back from the video games for 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:53.719 a minute. Just diving in. I'm bad. Once I dive in, 0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.680 I dive in. And then especially during the pandemic, especially 0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:58.720 during the pandemic. So for me, I had to step 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:00.719 back from the video games, especially when I was doing 0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.040 this project, because I was I got lost in there, 0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:08.000 locked game. I play of course two K so two 0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.000 K got the whole story mode. So once you get 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:14.040 locked into that him, I'm out here living hoop dreams. 0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.560 And then anything fighting game like UFC is my joint. 0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.719 Uh you know, Call of Duty's. I play all the 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:22.440 regular games, the ones I get locked in on, be 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:26.280 like the Batman, Spider Man, Spider Man Rocked the Switch, 0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:29.480 Super Marios is all fire. But I had to step 0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:33.960 back for Arkham series games were sucking five fire like 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.359 my some of my favorite games. That's when I found 0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.120 out I had a problem. I think I went like 0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:39.760 a month and I was like, yeah, I've been playing 0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.520 every day you get I had every any of the 0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:46.080 new consoles, the PS five Man PS five, I don't 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:50.600 rock with Xboxxbox Man you know, I'm not gonna lie. 0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:52.600 PS five ain't got no game yet, just like they 0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.480 did four. Neither of them got games yet. It's like bro, 0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.200 I told my son he was so hyped to get 0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.759 I mean, I got a bunch during Christmas, but I 0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.680 was like, yo, you realize, like there's no games yet. 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:04.520 That's what they did with PS four last time. It 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:08.160 was like you get Call of Duty two K, Spider Man, yeah, 0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:10.279 and two other games and then you got to wait 0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:13.759 six months go to no fucking games. Got a way 0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.160 to the summer and like low key that. I mean, 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.680 the graphics are better, but unless you got that crazy TV, 0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:22.799 like if you just got a normal four K TV, 0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.319 you barely can notice the difference. Difference. You gotta have 0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.920 like an ill ass TV with this type of rep. 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:30.640 My boy was breaking it down. He's like, look for 0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:32.920 you to really like notice the jump in graphics, you 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.919 gotta really have like a fucking three four thousand R TV. Yeah, 0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.319 just to notice the difference. I could imagine it's somebody 0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:40.160 who bought a PS five and my son's in his 0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.080 room on a thirty two inch fucking ten eighty P TV, like, yeah, 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.080 the graphics look better, I'm like, they look the same. Yeah, 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.200 I got every same game. I guy. Yeah, it's like 0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.839 pretty much the same fucking thing. It's it's kind of crazy. Yo. 0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:55.000 So you've sold over fifteen million records through your career. 0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.120 Like I said, I'm bad with the numbers, but that 0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.920 sounds Yeah, that sounds good. That's a lot. If I 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:05.680 could count like that is that's that's man, blessing. Do 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:09.200 you ever like reflect on like that's a lot? Bro? Like, 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.320 some people never go platinum in their life. Fifteen million 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:16.200 is a number that you could stop making music tomorrow 0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.359 and be like, man, I sold fifteen million records in life. 0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:21.600 You ever like think like shit like us worldwide? I 0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:23.239 don't know, because the thing is to that that fifth 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.560 Harmony record. Hopefully it'll go diamond at some point in 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:27.360 my life and I'll be like, I'm part of a 0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:31.400 diamond record. How many feel like they're like seven million worldwide? 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.319 How many records in that period? Yeah, that's crazy. It 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.360 might be diamond worldwide, But it's like that record was 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.160 probably one of the biggest. I need to update that plaque. 0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.120 I probably only got the two million one yeah, but no, 0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.319 but like you know, that's a lot Man, that's a 0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:47.680 big that's a big career. I mean, you know, and 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:49.879 for you to still keep going. But do you ever reflect, like, yo, 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.000 like everything I've done so far, it's impressive, man. I 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:57.280 know sometimes sometimes it's like probably easy to like second 0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:59.000 guess yourself or doubt yourself when you need the hottest 0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:02.040 artist anymore. But like, bro, like you've had like a 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.799 crazy run so far, Nah, I get I definitely get 0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.120 time to reflect on it more now, and I think 0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:10.000 back like nice little run, especially when I think about 0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.480 the years in so like I look at other guys 0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.680 and how long they actually been in the game, and 0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:17.960 I think about like when my first project dropped, when 0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:22.080 people actually start paying attention, like twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, Like, 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.640 you know what I'm saying, wasn't like that long ago 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:27.279 compared to some people who've been in the game for 0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.040 like twenty twenty five years. I feel like I still got, 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.040 you know what I'm saying, some grinding that I could do. 0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.400 I feel like I still got some time of success, 0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.839 especially when I see like a lot of the old 0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.840 heads still just doing big things later in their career, 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.879 like a lot of time, multiple runs, multiple runs. I've 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:47.000 seen so many people have just multiple legendary runs. You've 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:51.879 seen like Fat Joe keep coming out perfect example, Fat 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:54.279 Joe keep coming out, Gucci Man to keep coming out 0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:55.759 with something crazy. You know what I'm saying. Those are 0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.960 people that you know, you look up in like two Chains, 0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.840 still coming out like everybody, even like someone independent like 0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.640 Freddy Gibbs, Freddie Gibbs. You know what I'm saying too. 0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:06.120 You see people who run right now, that's crazy, right, 0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.759 People who you've seen years in maybe slow down or 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:10.640 you didn't think it was getting what they needed to 0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.000 get as far as respecting and getting nominated for Grammys 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.440 and stuff that makes you you have no choice but 0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.440 to feel inspired and motivated, like, oh I got that 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.680 time to figure stuff out. Not saying I'm just sitting back, 0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:23.880 but it's like I got time to steal, you know 0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:27.120 what I'm saying, thrive. So have you felt the narrative? 0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:29.440 I know you, you know you're you pay attention, but 0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:32.560 like there's been means and shit like what happened to 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:35.600 kid inc My kid ink fell off? Yeah? Is that 0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.960 something that bothers you or is it something that motivates you? 0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:40.960 Or do you even pay attention to it. It's a 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.080 little bit of both. The reason that bothers me is 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.279 because I feel like like we were talking about having 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.640 certain you know what I'm saying things aligned. I feel 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:51.280 like I've had somebody say, you know when you're dropping 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:53.080 something new, and then for me, I'll be like, I 0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.600 just dropped something new two weeks ago, how did what 0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.520 made that count? Is new for you? Or or me 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.680 taking it serious as this was a record I wanted 0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.480 to put out, or you just think I'm just throwing 0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.280 stuff out like you know. So I think it's definitely 0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.040 still up to me. I guess to I guess put 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:14.160 that energy into certain records. But you know, it'll bother 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.359 me to an extent of I don't want nobody thinking 0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.840 I'm chilling at the crib like working. I'm blessed, but 0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:24.800 I'm not ever content with just sitting at the crib 0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:27.960 and just going we collecting all these voices and da 0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.160 da da, and it's like, nah, I'm at the crib 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.279 working constantly, thinking, being creative, trying to figure out what's 0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:36.000 something new I could do where everything is going, especially 0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:39.400 because I'm somebody who doesn't really like sit back on 0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.680 my old records and look at them and think about 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:43.520 you know what I'm saying, Oh this is something I 0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:46.360 need to redo again, or what if this would have 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:50.520 done this? I'm I'm always moving forward, so like people 0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:52.319 will come over the crib and hear everything I got 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.239 stashed in they can they like why yeah, dada da, 0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.399 But it's you know what I'm saying, figuring everything out 0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:00.239 and just getting not wanting that to happen where people 0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:02.640 are overlooking records. It's definitely you know what I'm saying, 0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.000 They puts me in that place like all right, I 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:06.680 don't want to just put this out and I know 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.360 it's a smash, but it seems like, you know what 0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:09.840 I'm saying, I got to figure out the way to 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.600 get back in people's face or build the momentum in 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.239 the right way to where they just automatically it's back 0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.360 to clicking and then they go, oh that's crazy, instead 0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:23.680 of being like just not hearing it. I think it's 0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:26.680 like you drop this project. Just keep dropping, bro, that 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:30.640 with the songs and the videos, and that's I got 0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.360 this project done. I think I had already. Guys have 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.640 been shooting hell of videos of Maddy J shooting videos 0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:40.080 with my bro Maddy J. I had already started another 0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:44.040 like EP kind of project that's gonna be with somebody else, 0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.360 doing like a mix of not really hip hop or 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.400 something just more I think a little bit more worldly 0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:53.560 type music. And then I plan on dropping probably Up 0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:57.359 and Away too this year by that summer hopefully, and 0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:01.200 then uh, what's up with It's the Rumor Joint coming soon? 0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:03.960 The Rumor record is definitely coming soon. We're just getting 0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:07.040 everything together. That's definitely one of those ones that was 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.560 a big record that needs some clearances and it's gonna 0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.680 take some business time. But I think everything is set 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:15.560 in stone. I got a couple things I need to 0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:18.680 finish on the mixing side of things, because I'm real 0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.759 hands on with that. So I got the session at 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:22.840 the crib probably you know what I'm saying, tweaks some stuff, 0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.319 but it's already lined up to you know what I'm saying, go, 0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.000 I just got to hit my deadline. If there's an 0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.040 artist that's watching this that's on the come up, would 0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:33.520 you give them advice to stay independent or go with 0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:39.080 a major. Let's say they got a little bit of momentum. 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.799 It's different for different artists. Everyone's situation is different, but 0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.520 because it's certain artists who I never think should go 0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.399 to a major, and there's certain ones who I think 0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:49.520 need to go to a major so they get the looks. 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.120 So who do you think, like like like talk about 0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:53.360 the type of artists you think would need to go 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:58.960 to a major and or should stay independent. Like an example, 0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.200 I think, like from my perspective, if you have like 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.000 a song that goes viral, but you really don't have 0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:07.720 a following, like you might want to go the major route, right, 0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:11.439 because then you they'll maximize that record because that record 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.279 might be the only opportunity you have. Let's say that 0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:17.000 Board in the House kid, right, Yeah, that record that 0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.719 went viral. I haven't heard from him since, but he 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.000 signed a deal and then they put the Tiger on 0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.359 the remix, and I think that was probably a smart 0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:26.160 play for him. No, definitely a smart play if it's 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:30.120 somebody who's got a crazy following like Russ or somebody, 0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:34.880 or let's use let's use like blast last, Like is 0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:38.680 he signed to a major, No, he's got a partnership 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:42.799 with Rebel Music. I think that that's somebody probably who's 0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:46.520 really dope and will succeed doing their independent thing. But 0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:48.480 if he was signed to a major, could he be 0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:51.960 world wide artist? Absolutely? So you think or like, that's 0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:55.400 like saying if Roddy rich didn't sign to a major 0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.040 or just stayed independent, do I think you know what 0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:01.319 I'm saying. Yeah, I think Roddy Richard of major is 0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:06.560 so you blasted? A major is essentially what a slidfyd 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.799 is a superstar? Yeah, yeah, I think so, because he 0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:12.680 has those type of records that I think get overlooks 0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.799 that are way that are huge, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:17.040 Or you know what I'm saying, radio ready or just 0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:20.200 a single that everyone will like just because it sounds 0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.960 sonically just good. Have you worked with have you got 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.759 to lique him at all? No? I feel like you guys, Yeah, 0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:30.200 I think so. I was definitely a fan early and 0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.640 then you know what I'm saying, I'm somebody too, cause 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:35.520 it's like I'll be a fan of people and then 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.200 once they get like their wave going, I'll hit people 0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.480 up and be like congrats to this and that, and 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.480 then I don't I feel like I'd be seeming like 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:45.920 the person who hopped on the wave more so when 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.520 I'm just like seeing it like from the outside like thing. 0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:50.600 I watched you grind up. I remember when I was 0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:52.200 the only person listening to you and then I hit you, 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.520 and then you might think like, dang, they just trying 0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.120 to hop on the wave. Have you reached out to Blast? 0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.759 I don't remember if I reached out to Black. I know, 0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:02.120 I feel like I might have sent Blasts the DM 0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:05.120 or something, or because I work. I got a record 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.799 with Bino, Bino's crazy. Yeah, I got a record with 0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.319 Bino right now, and I remember that's kind of where 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:13.880 I heard Blast was from. Beano had a record. So 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.480 but now I planned on reaching out. You know what 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:18.160 I'm saying, I was letting it just that might be 0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:21.560 a vibe you and Blast. I think that'll be easy 0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:23.719 vibe because I hear when I hear it, I hear 0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.279 already what I would would do, and how comfortable that 0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.279 would be. Hey, he's working, man, I know he works 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.439 with Mazie a lot. You know, obviously him and Bino 0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.560 got I think they're working on us follow up to 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.680 their tape. But you know he's going crazy right now. 0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.560 He's definitely going crazy. It's dope to see that, for sure. Yeah, 0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:39.880 that'd be that'd be wild that'd be that might be 0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:42.719 like that has to happen. Yeah, I think that has 0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:44.640 to happen. I've been honestly, I was thinking about it, 0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:46.000 like like, if you're going to come back with like 0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:47.440 one of them R and B type records, has got 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:50.560 to be blast. Yeah. Yeah, i'ma have I'm have hooked 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:54.359 that up. Yeah, that'd be crazy, that'll be fire. Well, look, 0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:59.440 the album is out Friday, Friday, Thursday night midnight Thursday. 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.600 Actually this will come out next Monday, so the albumill 0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:04.600 already be out. Actually, I don't know when this is 0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:06.160 gonna come out. I'm ask Will when he wants to 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.400 drop this, because we might drop it Friday. Yeah, but 0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:13.960 you know it'll be out out album out alive thirteen records, 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.480 three already out, so ten brand new records. Y'all never heard? 0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:21.359 Videos coming, videos coming. I gotta you know what I'm saying, 0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:24.719 Night and day video drop day at the album, and 0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:28.720 then I wanted to stack up a bunch of videos. 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.440 I got a couple of different promo videos for some 0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:33.640 of the records. But I kind of want to take 0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:37.160 that first week and see what people are rocking with 0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:40.520 and make sure I give them that first one metrics 0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:41.880 and be like, all right, this is what they're fucking with, 0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:43.760 like this is what they want to see a video 0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.520 to right now, and then go back to just doing 0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.959 a video for everything. By the way, did you ever 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:55.600 find out who fucking got in your house? I don't. 0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:57.759 I didn't find out who got in my house. I 0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:00.120 know what they look like. I've seen, I've seen in 0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.239 the screen. I just didn't know if like anything ever 0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:04.000 came to that, you're ever getting your ship back or 0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:06.359 they were hitting houses like in your neighborhood, right, yeah, 0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:08.239 they was. They had a whole little thing going on. 0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:10.640 And then you know, the police came to the crib. 0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:14.000 They they thought I did it, like damn the insurance 0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:16.839 they was giving me to talk and I almost got 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:20.040 hot with them in the crib. And then uh, after that, 0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:23.400 they had like some some uh I don't even know 0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:28.160 what you call, some police officer or whoever detective there 0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.960 we go, i'muck police, some detective I was supposed to 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:34.600 call me and uh give me the rundown of what 0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:37.440 was going on and updates, And then every time I 0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.920 tried to hit them up, there was never no updates 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:41.960 like that, And I wasn't trying to really keep up 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:43.680 with the police like that, so I just kind of 0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:47.600 let it go. These fools I got jacked. They jacked 0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:51.000 my whip I was at the bank, followed me out 0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:54.759 of the bank. I stopped at the UPS store. While 0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:56.400 I was in the UPS store, these fools blew out 0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.160 my back window took fifteen grand cash out of my trunk. 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.480 The cops had their car and they couldn't like the 0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:05.760 license plate was like fuzzy, but they could have figured 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:07.800 it out. They had video of the girl who followed 0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:09.319 me out of the bank and got in that car, 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:11.600 and I had never heard. I'm like, bro, did y'all 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:13.560 even try to get my ship back? So be honest, 0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:16.960 I tried way harder than them for that first week 0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:18.799 and me too, Like I had got to a point 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:21.279 where I'm the one who got the footage because I 0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.319 went I went to the gas station that I stopped at, 0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:25.000 and I had to chip off the guys. Look, give 0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.200 me the footage. They had to follow me here because 0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:28.640 I went here before I went to the other spot 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:30.719 where I got robbed, and I had to give I 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:32.719 gave the cops the footage, like I got the footage 0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:34.400 that was right that's the same thing I did. I 0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.960 gave cops more footage, and I went to the neighbors 0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:39.560 and it was one of those things where they were 0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:42.040 supposed to be able to go through some other people's 0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:44.800 cameras in the neighborhood and they be able to spot 0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:47.040 you know what I'm saying, because I saw the car, 0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:49.680 but I couldn't see no plates. In the way that 0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:52.000 they did, it's a whole run. They got a whole 0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:54.480 route out the neighborhood, through the neighborhood where they don't 0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:56.560 have to know what they were doing, go straight to 0:48:56.600 --> 0:49:01.640 the freeway. I lost like, I lost like five chains. 0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:06.799 I think my girl lost like two chains. Bracelet. To 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:11.640 be honest, I did have insurance, but they wasn't covering that. 0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:16.400 They didn't cover it. They didn't cover anything. I had 0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:18.440 paperwork and all that ship and I went through you 0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:20.200 know what I'm saying, everything I needed to go through, 0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:23.319 but they wasn't covering it. Learning experience, man, Yeah, I 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.120 learned from it. Yeah, look, kid Ink, appreciate you coming through. 0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.480 New album. Hey, let's let's for the radio show. Introduce 0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:34.160 a record man, which I don't know, Uh, it'll be 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.560 two out whichever one you are gonna have clean for me. 0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:40.400 Oh yeah, okay, you just need to give you that 0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:44.239 today too, all right? Uh y'all, what's up this? Your 0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:46.880 boy kid ink right here and this is my new record, 0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:49.840 red Light Off the Project Alive. You already know what 0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:52.680 it is. We ain't here baby Alumni back game, one 0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:54.360 time Boulet Kid. Whoop whoop,