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Speaker 1: to talk about Eagles. This is a college show, Dan,

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Speaker 1: this is a college show. So on today's episode, we're

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Speaker 1: so it's the off season. Not a lot of breaking news, No,

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Speaker 2: I guess, I mean it was. It was sort of

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Speaker 1: Very weird. It's very weird.

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Speaker 2: There were reports that he's not speaking with the athletic director.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's normal. Ti, It's entirely possible that head coaches

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's normal. You know.

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Speaker 2: So that's why we are learning of the new Michigan's

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Speaker 1: That's all we have for news, unless there's anything else

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Speaker 2: No, I think I think I'm good with singing transfers

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Speaker 1: No, I mean it's a good hire, good good higher.

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Speaker 1: Top seven SDC game changers in twenty twenty two. What

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Speaker 2: Something novel for the twenty twenty two season within the

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? It does, And I think there's

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Speaker 2: good boy, I'll tell you why, Lad, because this year's

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Speaker 2: They're absolutely all over the roster. But if we're speaking

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm sure there are people out there

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Speaker 1: When you were a two time defending national champion, You've

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Speaker 1: much on full display what he can bring to an

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Speaker 1: NFL roster. But suffice to say that Tennessee's offense, while

434
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Speaker 1: it still would have been very good with Hendon Hooker

435
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: pulling the switches, Jalen Hyatt definitely was a game breaker

436
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: who gave him a little bit of that extra pop

437
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: that zazz as he liked to.

438
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Speaker 2: Say, it was, Yeah, it was a difference. It was

439
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 2: you know, Cedric Tillman and Vellis Jones the year before

440
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 2: an outstanding duo. But Jalen Hyatt as at his best healthy.

441
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 2: We saw what he was capable of, especially in that

442
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Speaker 2: mid chunk stretch of the season, highlighted by, of course

443
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Speaker 2: the Alabama game you mentioned. But when you talk about

444
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: gravitational players, Jalen Hyatt is that guy that, like, okay,

445
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: Georgia needs to take him away, and Georgia did take

446
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: him away. He's not a perfect receiver's he didn't hit

447
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: a thousand this year. But when Jalen Hyatt wasn't able

448
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: to largely get loose in some bad weather or whatever, Georgia,

449
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: you know, stomp Tennessee effectively, that Tennessee's offense took a

450
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Speaker 2: step back. That you know, Hendon Hooker was not able

451
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Speaker 2: to do what he wanted to do against Georgia because

452
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Speaker 2: of Jalen Hyatt being taken away somewhat and obviously the

453
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Speaker 2: Georgia front completely demolishing Tennessee up front. Jalen Hyatt ran

454
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Speaker 2: safeties out of plays, ran corners out of plays, even

455
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Speaker 2: when he's not getting the ball. The grass is greener

456
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Speaker 2: for the Tennessee offense. The running game is easier because

457
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Speaker 2: you have to have eyes on Jalen Hyatt on every play,

458
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Speaker 2: and so.

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Speaker 1: That was the difference.

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Speaker 2: I think he had like two hundred and twenty yards

461
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Speaker 2: total in twenty twenty one, and then he had two

462
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Speaker 2: hundred and seven yards alone, as you mentioned in that

463
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Speaker 2: Alabama game. So I don't know how you tell the

464
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Speaker 2: story of the twenty twenty two SEC football season. He

465
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Speaker 2: can't without talking about the emergence of Jalen Hyatt. Because

466
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Speaker 2: we knew Hendon Hooker was capable of bombing it down

467
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Speaker 2: the field and he was when healthy, of Heisman caliber.

468
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Speaker 2: But we kind of had that notion coming into the

469
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Speaker 2: season that he was a quarterback nationally to watch. Jalen

470
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Speaker 2: Hyatt was the emergence in that offense and so that

471
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Speaker 2: to me is why that that's a really relevant pick

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Speaker 2: for this Yeah.

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Speaker 1: A burner who can run downfield. Again, this is not

474
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Speaker 1: an NFL show. We do talk about the draft anecdotally,

475
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Speaker 1: if only to provide context. He's He's easily one of

476
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Speaker 1: the top five receivers in this class. He's up there

477
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Speaker 1: with Quinton Johnston. He's up there with Jordan Addison, Aison Yep,

478
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba whom I Josh downs another name

479
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: and kills you know that, another name that did some

480
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: work this year for Carolina. He's in that type of

481
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Speaker 1: discussion right now. And so great season for him, great

482
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Speaker 1: season for Tennessee on offense. It would not have been

483
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Speaker 1: possible though without Jalen Hyatt. Great season for him. Yeah.

484
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Speaker 2: And by the way, they're like four and a half

485
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hyatts in college football, which is when we say

486
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Speaker 2: we use the term winter Wonders, it's that, you know,

487
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: terrifying horror story of a receiver.

488
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Speaker 1: He is one of those. Yeah, he just is. Next one.

489
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Speaker 1: Where do you want to go next?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Drew Sanders Arkansas Arkansas linebacker, Alabama transfer.

491
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Speaker 2: So this is sort of double double lee prong the

492
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Speaker 2: two prongs answer for me, because he was the clear

493
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: bright spot linebacker was the clear bright spot for an

494
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: Arkansas defense that did not have a good year. They

495
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Speaker 2: were beat up obviously Jalen Catalan early on. I think,

496
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Speaker 2: I mean Barry Odom is a very good defensive coordinator.

497
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: Now the head coach at UNLV, but Drew Sanders transferring

498
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: in from Alabama was all over the place, used in

499
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 2: a different way, moved around a lot more than he

500
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Speaker 2: was at Alabama, in different linebacker positions.

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Speaker 1: I wrote this down. I think he led the team in.

502
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: Tackles, tackles for loss, run stuffs, pressures, sacks like he

503
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: was just mister everything for a defense that needed ten more,

504
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: Drew Sanders on it. And so he was All SEC

505
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Speaker 2: first team.

506
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Speaker 1: He was.

507
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Speaker 2: If he wasn't the best linebacker in the SEC, he

508
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: most certainly was one of the best two, two or three.

509
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Speaker 2: And I always like those guys who have to do

510
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 2: everything sometimes when those around them are either beat up

511
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: or just are not on his level. So he made

512
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: a I guess a questionable decision to transfer to Arkansas

513
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: given the weird year. But even still in that defense,

514
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: he shined and actually just in terms of changing the

515
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: complexion of the SEC season, he was the one and

516
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 2: it was not a dirty tackle, but he was one

517
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Speaker 2: who tackled Bryce Young, who he was actually friendly with

518
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: at Alabama. That led to Bryce Young landing on his

519
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: shoulder and whatever the final injury was was a sprained

520
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 2: a sea joint, whatever it was, Bryce Young was not

521
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: the same after that injury for a number of weeks,

522
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Speaker 2: including the LSU game and Tennessee game. And look, don't

523
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: get me wrong, Alabama had plenty of opportunities to win

524
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: either of those games whether or not Bryce Young's shoulder

525
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: was beat up, but didn't help.

526
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Speaker 1: It didn't help.

527
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: I know Alabama fans were also not I think huge

528
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: fans of Bill O'Brien in the way that his vision

529
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: for the offense rolled out. But yeah, Bryce Young was

530
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: not himself for those few weeks, maybe up until the

531
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: Auburn games, certainly when you saw what he was able

532
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: to do with some more time off and just demolished,

533
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: flatt and destroy, obliterate whatever verb you want to use.

534
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: Kansas State in the Bowl game. Ye, not intentional from

535
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: Drew Sanders, but that play. And I don't know if

536
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Speaker 2: you've ever tried to chase down Bryce Young from behind, you.

537
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: Know I haven't, not recently.

538
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: I personally find that I might not be capable of

539
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: doing so, so that Drew Sanders was able to to

540
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: do so he was a wrecking ball for Arkansas and

541
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Speaker 2: so I just I tip my cap because he was incredible.

542
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Speaker 1: Yeah, big kid too. Yeah, like two thirty, again not

543
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: an NFL show, not Draftnick, but declared, yeah, declared, would

544
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Speaker 1: imagine that he would be another name. I think it's

545
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: a pretty deep linebacker class from what I remember. Okay,

546
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Speaker 1: Drew Sanders, I think will get some looks. He's got

547
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: really good size, he got pretty good speed, as he said,

548
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: chasing down guys from behind.

549
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's all coverage now, right, if you're a

550
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: linebacker on any level, with the way that offenses are

551
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: fully built around, you know, digging out those mismatches and

552
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: just finding linebackers up the seam to exploit them with

553
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: you know, a slot receiver or something like that. If

554
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: Drew Sanders has the speed that translates to the NFL,

555
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna make.

556
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Speaker 1: Himself a lot of money, make himself a lot of money.

557
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: I just wanted to provide some further contexts and some

558
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: of the numbers that you threw out there. Right, everything

559
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: you said is correct. One hundred and eleven total tackles,

560
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: forty seven of which were solo. He had sixteen tackles

561
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: for loss, which like laps the field on the Arkansas defense,

562
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: not even close. He had ten run stuffs, which is

563
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: just you know, I think a recognition of the fact

564
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: that this is a guy who can anticipate the play

565
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: very quickly and as he said, just one of the

566
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: few bright spots on the Arkansas defense. The Arkansas defense

567
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: was not exactly a shutdown unit. No, definitely could have

568
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: used more Drew Sanders, but the fact that he was

569
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: on that team, the fact that he was on that

570
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: side of the ball at least gave them a little

571
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: bit more cover. He was a do it all guy.

572
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: He do it all guy. He was kind of in

573
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: the mix on every place. So I'm glad that you

574
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: called him out. He's not a name that we talked

575
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: a whole lot about this season, but hopefully gets his

576
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: fill in the NFL and at a minimum, got some

577
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: airtime here on the show. Yeah, I'm rooting for him. Next,

578
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: let's go to Mike Leach. Let's call Mike Leach. Yeah,

579
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: let's talky about Mike Leach. So obviously tragic circumstances here,

580
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: mm hmm, but Mike Leach. I think Mike Leach is

581
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: an icon in the college football world, not just given

582
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: his innovation on the offensive side of the ball, but

583
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: the personality, the fact that he touched college football in

584
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: the ways that he did. You know, when he stepped

585
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 1: foot in an SEC locker room, the instant reaction from US,

586
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Speaker 1: I think was, Okay, this is interesting. This is going

587
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: to be interesting to see how this offense plays at

588
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: the within an SEC conference that had not seen a

589
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: Mike Leach style system before, at least not as effective.

590
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: The fact that Leech came in I think he made

591
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: Mississippi State better as a whole. He certainly made Mississippi

592
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: State interesting. That is beyond a shadow of a doubt.

593
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: And just the impact this guy had on college football.

594
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: It's hard not to list him in the game changer

595
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: category in some respect.

596
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also you look at the effect of his

597
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: specific system. Obviously throwing the ball to move the ball,

598
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 2: finding grass, hitting grass, and opening things up to find mismatches.

599
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: You look at just where the SEC is now as

600
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: compared to where it was a decade ago, way before

601
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: he entered into the conference, and you look at the

602
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: stats whatever. Obviously Will Rogers is going to lead the

603
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: SEC and pass attempts with that specific system, but you

604
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: look at his coaching tree and the guys coming off

605
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: of it. Josh Hipel was a national championship winning quarterback

606
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: for him at Oklahoma is now running a wide open system.

607
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: At Tennessee. Wasn't that long ago that Tennessee was running

608
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: an eye system, right, That was just you know, the

609
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: three yards in a cloud of dust system. And that

610
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: the SEC has evolved to where it is now with

611
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: Alabama throwing it like they are with obviously LSU and

612
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: you know, bringing in Jayden Daniels from the West Coast

613
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: and opening things up in the way that they've continued

614
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: to do so. Joe Brady really helped to start that

615
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: with Steve Ensminger a couple of years ago. But the

616
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: influence of Mike Leach to where we are now with

617
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: South Carolina going for un Oklahoma, Lincoln Riley quarterback to

618
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: come on strong late in the year, and Spencer Rattler

619
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: huge deal the way I mean he threw up six

620
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: touchdowns in the win over Tennessee, they scored sixty three

621
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: points from where they were. I mean, it's not Mike

622
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: Leach directly, but the influence is all over the conference,

623
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: in the way that teams are viewing offense, that teams

624
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: are recruiting to offense, in the way that teams are

625
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: calling plays, in the way that teams are taking more

626
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: chances on fourth and short and just saying screw it,

627
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: we're simplifying things, We're going fast, we're going for it.

628
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: And so maybe short of what Texas A and M

629
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: put on the field on offense this year, you could

630
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: see the tentacles of Mike Leach's offense and influence in

631
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: the game all over the conference.

632
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not just a college thing, to be

633
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: honest with you, of course, it's something that has gone

634
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: up to the NFL. It's something that has gone down

635
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: to the high school ranks as well. I've been going

636
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: through watching a lot of old Leech videos, old how

637
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: Mummy videos where they talk about how the offense runs

638
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: and what some of the guiding principles are. And what

639
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: I think is so fascinating about the style of system

640
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: that both these guys ran help develop together in their

641
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: times as coaches. The simplicity of it, Yes, the simplicity

642
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: of it. The only way you can make something go

643
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: that quick is if it's simple, is if it requires

644
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: a couple of hand motions in order to communicate everything

645
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: that the offense needs to do in order to run

646
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: the play. And so that's part of why I think

647
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: it's so fascinating that it has been crazy effective on

648
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: a number of different levels, both high school, college, and

649
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: pro and so much of it is communicated through hand

650
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: signals and very simple concepts that almost anybody could understand.

651
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: The fact that they've taken it this far and innovated

652
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: to this point is pretty cool. That's an amazing story,

653
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: and that's a credit to Leachin and all the time

654
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: he put in helping you drive it forward.

655
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: Even Georgia, Even Georgia which is not necessarily the team

656
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: that is keen on throwing the ball forty five times

657
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: a game. You look at Todd Mounkin and his path

658
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: obviously subbing in for Dana Holgerson at Oklahoma State, with

659
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: his own experience in the broader air raid system, and

660
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: the fact that Stetson Bennett, non prototypically sized quarterback, non

661
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: NFL future of any real consequence, it seems, is able

662
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: to get the ball out, is able to make plays quickly,

663
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: is able to have a place in the sport even

664
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: if he's undersized because of that ability to just quickly

665
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: read and make plays, extend plays, whatever.

666
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: That's an influence.

667
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: It's more indirect, it is more tenuous but the fact

668
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: is there are elements in all of these teams that

669
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: we've seen in the sec that are spilling through.

670
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: Gotta pay homage to Leach. Let's go ye, sorry about

671
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: Jaydeen Daniels. Dan please, maybe the most obvious name on

672
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: our top seven list. How many are we up to now? Five?

673
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: That sounds right. I think we're on number five. Jane Daniels.

674
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: So look, I made the joke before the start of

675
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: the season that Brian Kelly he was going to screw

676
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 1: up this quarterback thing at LSU. There were a bunch

677
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: of names, right, It wasn't just Jade Daniels, but could

678
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: have thrown Walker Howard in there. He could have thrown

679
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: Garrett nuss Meyer in there. We didn't know who the

680
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: quarterback was going to be. There was all sorts of

681
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: speculation before the start of the year. My joke was,

682
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna do at LSU when he did it, notre Dame.

683
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna screw it up. He's going to commit to

684
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: all of them, not just one of them. The whole

685
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: thing's gonna go south. Well, Jane Daniels wins the job.

686
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: Jane Daniels had a little bit of a rocky go early,

687
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: but after that was downright electric. I was wrong. I

688
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: was wrong on Brian Kelly's wrong on Jayan d Annuals.

689
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels meant the world to this team. Not only

690
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: was he very good and very responsible when it came

691
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: to the passing game, only through three picks all season long,

692
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: but also the team's leading rusher had going to say

693
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: he had to do everything, how to do everything. I

694
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: had almost nine hundred yards, he had ten touchdowns on

695
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: the ground. So after he kind of settled in, after

696
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: he got in rhythm with the rest of that offense,

697
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: we are where we are now. LSU had an incredible

698
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: first season under Brian Kelly. They beat Alabama, which in

699
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 1: and of itself is a big deal for this team

700
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: that was trying to reorganize itself after ed Orgeron. And

701
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: now we're talking about Jane Daniels coming back into this season.

702
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: We're talking about Walker Howard, the ones promising recruit who

703
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: dance did the weird three sixty podium dance thing with

704
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly. He's off the old miss now because he

705
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: doesn't want to wait another year. He knows Les Brennan retired.

706
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: Brennan retired THEAH I forgot all about Miles Brennan.

707
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that is what Jane Daniels did for this program.

708
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: He re energized the offense. He definitely gave them an

709
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: X factor that was not there before he transferred over

710
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: from Arizona State. He instantly made LSU all that much

711
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: more dangerous. And so we can't in good faith talk

712
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: about a list of SEC game changers without mentioning Jane Daniels.

713
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: Guy had an incredible season. Yeah.

714
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: Also the way that LSU started this season, if you

715
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: remember the Florida State lossy the fact that he was

716
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: that a stabling influence. Malik Nighbors ended up having a

717
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: great year after a couple of not great moments in

718
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: that opening game.

719
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: I think it was if he was maybe.

720
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: The second leading receiver in the SEC after Jalen Hyatt.

721
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, LSU able to sort of gather itself relatively

722
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: quickly because Jane Daniels is older and it's stabilizing for

723
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: us once again and to do everything Guy to make

724
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: that throw at the end of the Bama game and

725
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: break through. It's a different look roster for LSU, having

726
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: to rely on transfers and more places than usual so yeah, absolutely,

727
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: Jayden and Daniels a game changer for LSU. Now, what's

728
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: it gonna look like next year? Because Aarons Meyer is

729
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: kind of coming on strong. That's interesting to me. It's his,

730
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: it's Jayden Daniel's job, but it's interesting. It is interesting

731
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: to me.

732
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a good problem to have. Sure,

733
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: if you're an LSU fan, knowing that you've got two

734
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: capable quarterbacks who can play. Walker Howard it was too

735
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: much for him. Lorker Howard was like, I gotta I'm

736
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: gonna go somewhere else for those two quarterbacks. But alas

737
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: LSU having the kind of season it did, winning the West,

738
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: going to the SEC title game, destroying was it Perdue?

739
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: He played in the bowl game? Yeah, played Perdue in

740
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: a bowl game, just hammered Perdue. We all saw that

741
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 1: one coming. But a really nice ten and four season,

742
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: ten win season for Brian Kelly in year one, I

743
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: think definitely met definitely seated expectations and they are not

744
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: at this moment right now without Jane Daniels. He totally

745
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: changed the game, not just for LSU, but really changed

746
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: the complexion of the SEC West.

747
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Brian Kelly did every single bit to earn

748
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: every dollar of his paycheck to such an extent that

749
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 2: they paid him an extra million dollars accidentally.

750
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote about that in the newsletter. I wrote,

751
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: it's incredible. And you know, as I wrote, like, I

752
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: would love to believe as a score Notre Dame fan

753
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: that there was some sort of nefarious office space style plot. Sure,

754
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: you know, through which he siphoned a million dollars off

755
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: without anybody knowing it. But it was it was legalese.

756
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: It was complications in his contract with how he wanted

757
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: to be paid. It was I don't know how you

758
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: don't notice that. Maybe that's a different conversation, but yeah,

759
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: they they who among us? They've now taken corrective action?

760
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, who among us when we're doing our taxes at

761
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: the end of the year five and a clean extra mill.

762
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: Like I think, huh. I talked to Mamma h about this.

763
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: We all been there, and I was like, that's there.

764
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: There is definitely a difference between Rich and Brian Kelly Rich.

765
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: You're Brian Kelly Rich. If you don't notice seven extra

766
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: figures in the bank account, well here's a quick little accounting.

767
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: Who done it? Jade Daniels. Absolutely where you want to

768
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: go next? I think we only have one more? Right,

769
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: I will count him up? One, two, three, four, five?

770
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: I think we got two more. We got two more?

771
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going Quinn Shawn Judkins, Oh this is your boy.

772
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: I really like quin Sewn Judkins because I don't know.

773
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: I like good football players, and he happens to be

774
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: one of them. Freshman running back who was expected to

775
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: maybe be a spell for Zach Evans, the former five

776
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 2: star running back him or five star recruit who transferred

777
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: in from TCU, and they look to be like a

778
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: really brutal one two for the SEC. And it turns

779
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: out he was just the brutal one. He was the guy.

780
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: I think he had five games of twenty five plus carries,

781
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: another three or four over twenty carries, and all throughout

782
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: the year he was the guy because Jackson Dart was

783
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 2: not the next Matt Corral. The offense while very good,

784
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: and Jonathan Mingo was certainly a huge play receiver, it

785
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: was an offense that had Gwin Shawn Judkins, and that

786
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: was kind of it, and that was good enough to

787
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: almost or fully win a number of games. Now, Ole

788
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: missus season took a turn right about the time that

789
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: they took a lead on LC who they were up

790
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 2: what seventeen to three or twenty to three or something

791
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 2: like that. But I always admire somebody who has that

792
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: kind of resilience and that kind of game and that

793
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: kind of ability to i mean, literally put the team

794
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: on his back, it seemed at times as he was

795
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: pulling guys forward. So I came away, you know, very

796
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: very impressed for a freshman to be able to do

797
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: that in the SEC. And he's similar, you know, Devin

798
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 2: h Chain. What he was able to do at Texas

799
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: A and M that was a higher degree of difficulty

800
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 2: considering the limitations of Texas A and M's offense. And

801
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: I think he ran the ball damn here forty times

802
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 2: against lsu uh to win that game to finish the year. Score,

803
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: I mean, was it thirty seven, thirty eight points something

804
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: like that for for excuse me for text A and M.

805
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, quin Shawn Judkins to come in and make

806
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: that kind of impact, that's different.

807
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: Fifteen fifteen hundred and sixty seven yards and sixteen touchdowns

808
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: for freshman, Yeah, for freshmen. Yeah. And there are stories

809
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: out there about how Lane Kiffen wanted this kid, and

810
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: you know I was was doing what it took to

811
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: get him on campus.

812
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: And there's a great picture of Lane kiff and Lane

813
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: Kiffin freezing his ass off in the bleachers quin Shawn

814
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: Judkins a game during his senior year, and which is

815
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin sitting there alone, like, that's my guy, that's

816
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: the dude I want in Oxford.

817
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and it's good he got him because, as

818
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: he said, the offense doesn't per the way it purred

819
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: without quinn Shawn Judkins. Zach Evans had a good season. Obviously,

820
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: Jackson we can talk about Jackson Dart at some of

821
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: the point in time, but Quenshawn Judkins was a huge deal, huge,

822
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: huge game changer for the Old Miss offense. Yeah. One more, please,

823
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: I want to talk about my boy, Shane Beemer.

824
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 2: Okay, you're going with Beemer. I gave you an alt

825
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: here if you wanted to use it, but go Beemer.

826
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: I think that's you were trying to give me. Jahean Bell,

827
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: Who I just I like jeem Bell, all right. I

828
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: like Jaean Bell, but I can't get over, for the

829
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: life of me, the job that Shane Biemer.

830
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: Has done in two years at South Carolina. Mm hmm.

831
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: I can't get over it. I remember when he took

832
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: that job, When he took that job, and we looked

833
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: at South Carolina before the twenty one season. You and

834
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: I looked at each other and we literally shrugged, like

835
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: there's no chance. There's no they have no chance. They

836
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: were decimated on the lines, there was a dearth of

837
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: talent and they won seven games. Now, I'm not going

838
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: to act like it wasn't at least some pixie dust

839
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: and some smoke and mirrors. But they went to a

840
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: bowl game. They wanted the Duke's Mail Bowl. He had

841
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: the vat of Mayo dumped on him after his first season.

842
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: That was a pretty successful campaign by any measure, by

843
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: any measure for first year coach. But then to win

844
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: one more game this past season to beat Tennessee, Tennessee

845
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: nicked up, but to beat Tennessee still beat him, still

846
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: a good team, to beat Clemson to close out the season.

847
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: I can't help but come away feeling like Shane Biemer

848
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: is very much coach with a ton of juice and

849
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: so much more left to prove in the SEC. I

850
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: was just so damn impressed by the way they fought.

851
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that we're seeing with this team

852
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: time and again South Carolina now in two years now

853
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: under Shane Beemer, they always fight. They always fight. Now,

854
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: there are gonna be some losses like the one in

855
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: Florida where they lost by thirty two points. You're going

856
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: to have a couple of those while they're trying to

857
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: build up this roster of talent. You're going to have

858
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: a couple like that. But the fact that in some

859
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: of the biggest games, most of the biggest games, South

860
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: Caro line of plays up to its competition and not

861
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: down to whatever expectations we had. That is telling of

862
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: a good coach. There are also, I think some key

863
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: indicators that the thing is getting better. Took a bit

864
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: of a step back on defense, Okay, need to get

865
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: that sorted, but the offense dramatically improved this season. Brought

866
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: over Spencer Rattler, had some other transfers that came in

867
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: to help bolster that. They've gotten a lot better on

868
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: special teams. We know Shane Biemer's pedigree as a special

869
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: teams coach. Maybe that's no surprise, But again, these are

870
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: things that we look at on the special team side,

871
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: that is a measure of effort, That is a measure

872
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: of caring, right, That tells you how motivated a team

873
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: is or can be. And the fact that they are

874
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,479
Speaker 1: now again by some metrics, the top special teams unit

875
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: in all of college football is telling to me that

876
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: things are moving in a very good direction. That there

877
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: is a lot of momentum on this Beamer era in

878
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: Columbia South Carolina. So I am impressed by him. They

879
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: almost won the bowl game against Notre Dame, probably could

880
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: have won that bowl game sure, the Gator Bowl. Right.

881
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: So the fact that it's still like we are on

882
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: the rise here with Shane Beemer through two years, it

883
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: was always going to be a longer term deal to

884
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: get South Carolina back to where they want it to be.

885
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: But I think it still remains very, very promising. And

886
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: by the way, if they're winning that kind of game,

887
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: if they're beating the likes of a Tennessee in the

888
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: SEC East, it is a game changer. It is a

889
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: game changer. It provides a little bit more balance on

890
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: that side of the forest. Right, Because we talk about

891
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: the SEC West and how loaded the SEC West was,

892
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: we were waiting for some other schools to rise up

893
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: in the East and provide perhaps some more competition for

894
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: the likes of Georgia, while Tennessee, who knows about South Carolina.

895
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: They'll give you a game. Didn't necessarily give Georgia a

896
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: game this year, lost by forty one points. But yeah,

897
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: that'll happened. Sure, it'll happen. You'll have that. So I

898
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: just remain very impressed with Shane Biemer, and I can't

899
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: help but think this guy is a huge game changer

900
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: on that side of the conference.

901
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's starting seasons a little bit better. It's not

902
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: looking flat randomly, and I think that'll come with time.

903
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: That'll come with experience of its roster.

904
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: I think. I don't know.

905
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: They got kind of blown out. It was a low

906
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 2: point right before a high point when they lost to Florida,

907
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 2: but then finished the season strong immediately thereafter, beating Clemson

908
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: and Tennessee to finish things out. Look, it's a tough

909
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: job just because it's not a headliner in the way

910
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: that three other programs in their own division are typically

911
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: in Florida, Tennessee, and Georgia, they're not the team in

912
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: their own state with Clemson, who they just beat by

913
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 2: the way, So that's nice, but they're sort of existing

914
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: amongst and so for South Carolina and it's players now,

915
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: Jaheem Bell transfers, Marshaun Lloyd transfer, Spencer Rattler announced is

916
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: coming back. It's that next step on the trail. It's

917
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 2: that next step finding NFL caliber guys on both sides

918
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: of the ball, like they've done in recent years, but

919
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: continuing to do so and continuing to build depth because

920
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 2: it is extremely to tough to stand out in that division,

921
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: in that conference, and for South Carolina to finish the

922
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: way that they did the crazy good job. Yeah, I

923
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: had Jaheem Bel there because I love weirdo tight ends

924
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 2: who run the ball as you know, converted h BAC types.

925
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: And he's off to Florida State now. But there are

926
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: those types of players more and more, those combination type

927
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: game changers that South Carolina is going to find that

928
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: they're going to unearth. And Shane Biemer is a great

929
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 2: example of a program hiring a guy moving up in

930
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: the profession in that world, and so when you juxtapose

931
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: him against some sort of you know, the also ran

932
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: highers that a team is hiring, Will Muschamp like South Carolina,

933
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: like Florida, whatever that is hiring or keeping Kirk Farrence

934
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: or whatever. The energy of Shane Biemer in that program,

935
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: it's making more and more sense as the higher long term.

936
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: It was a risk, It was definitely a risk.

937
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: It was a risk in its own way. It was

938
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: Shane Swings. You know that this were a show about swings,

939
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 2: and it was a swing.

940
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: It absolutely was. He's still a young guy, He's only

941
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: forty five. They gave him the job. He didn't have

942
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: any head coaching experience, was obviously in close proximity to

943
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: his father, who was a longtime iconic football coach at

944
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, but came over as a special teams coach.

945
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: And we've seen that happen elsewhere. The special teams coach

946
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: is the one that pops right. I mean, there are

947
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: plenty of examples of that. Sure. So to see what

948
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: he's done, the energy that he has brought to that

949
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: program has been pretty cool. So Shane Biemer, I think

950
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: is my final final game changer here in the SEC.

951
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: That's a good answer. The only other thing I'd say

952
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: about Shane Biemer is, unfortunately for South Carolina fans, if

953
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: South Carolina keeps improving. His name is going to keep

954
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 2: coming up November December January four. I mean I saw

955
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: his name. I don't know if it was Tom Fornelli.

956
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: I apologize if I got that wrong, But like if

957
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh were to take a job in the NFL

958
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: and Michigan were going to begin a search. Wow, oh,

959
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 2: winning young energetic coach in the SEC at a non

960
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: headline place is somebody who will have their name come

961
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: up for huge jobs like that.

962
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: Wow. Right if he wins.

963
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: Nine games at South Carolina, I think on nine and

964
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: three in the next couple of years.

965
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 1: I don't know how long is in Columbia. That's all

966
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: a topic for another day, for another day. There you

967
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Speaker 1: have it. Let us know via email, via the comments,

968
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Speaker 1: via whatever tools you have available. Who did we miss?

969
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971
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972
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Speaker 1: where you can watch. You can react as well. Let

973
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: us know your thoughts on this season of SCC football.

974
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: Good season, always a good season of SEC football. Sure

975
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: Georgia won the national championship, so kind of hard to

976
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: be better. Than that.

977
00:50:54,440 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, let us know, how about Clark Lee. I

978
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 2: thought about it, Kathley, Anthrony Orgy, Yeah, come on, that

979
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 2: was a defense at time. They stayed within fifty six

980
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: at the end of the season of Tennessee.

981
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: No.

982
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: I mean, look, they beat Kentucky and Florida. They go

983
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: five and seven on the precipice of a bowl in

984
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: Clark Lee's second year.

985
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Next year's answer could be Liam Cohen

986
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: for Kentucky. Sure, Liam Cohen Devin Leary. That that tandem

987
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: will be interesting to watch. We'll see if he can

988
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: do for Leary what he did for Levis mm hmm.

989
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: But he's an interesting name. A bunch of interesting names

990
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: always coming into the SEC conference. So we'll do this

991
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,120
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992
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:46,200
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