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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you remember that. I told him I want

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle,

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Speaker 4: Paed Price, one slice, got the Brother disat all my life.

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Speaker 4: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, grinning

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Speaker 4: all my life, sacrifice, Hustle, Paed, the Pricing, one Slice,

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Speaker 5: I've been grinding all my life.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I

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Speaker 3: am your host. Shannon Sharp, also the propriet of Club

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Speaker 3: Shasha and the guy that's stopping by for conversation on

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Speaker 3: the drink today, is one of Hollywood's Brady Stars. A

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Speaker 3: multi talented, well rounded performer, actor, comedian, artist, dancer, rapper, musicians, greenwriter,

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Speaker 3: executive producer, director, author, hosts, pastor, a song after voice actor.

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Speaker 3: He's been nominated twice for an Emmy. A fan favorite

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Speaker 3: household name for kids of the nineties, a husband or father,

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Speaker 3: a Nickelodeon alum who loves orange soda. Kell loves orange soda,

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Speaker 3: kel Mitchell. Oh, make it about the club.

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Speaker 6: You know what you got lords, we do we got

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Speaker 6: it yeah orange so that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, I appreciate it. Man, I'm happy.

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Speaker 3: Man. We're happy to have you.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for stopping by the club. All the best, no doubt. Okay,

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Speaker 3: A man that fruit too. Yeah, Shae loves orange. So

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Speaker 3: to kill your pastor. You're a musician, so for you.

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Speaker 3: For the very first time, we have a live performance

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Speaker 3: coming to the stage today for the first time on Club.

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Speaker 3: Shay Shade is three time Grammy winning gospel artists Ty

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Speaker 3: Trippert and he's gonna sing a song be all right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, he's gonnnna make everything all right.

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Speaker 8: Whoo yeah yeah yeah, check it.

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Speaker 7: It gets so hard, just trying to figure it out,

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Speaker 8: Trying to believe God, trying to want the words in

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Speaker 8: my mouth to say out.

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Speaker 1: Trouble will come and go, even on.

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Speaker 3: The mountain high on the Bounty Loop. But never let

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Speaker 5: So confused, don't know which way, stressed out.

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Speaker 7: The world's so crazy repossible, stay in the house, been

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Speaker 9: We got terrorists disguise.

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Speaker 3: They look like us, but we know who we trust.

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Speaker 3: Just want to say that we gonna feel all right.

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Speaker 7: Tell him, tell him, tell him we won't be all right.

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Speaker 3: Let them tell him we won't be all right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, feel real good in here, all right?

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Speaker 3: All right, can't hear you real long, sir? See, we

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Speaker 3: won't be all right.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. We gon'ta be all right.

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Speaker 3: No matter what your God won't be all right.

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Speaker 7: Tell us, yeah, check it out.

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Speaker 3: In these last days, evil times will come in it's.

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Speaker 1: Head and day.

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Speaker 5: Look at all the hate since this crime is murdered, day,

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Speaker 7: Shut your ordeal, let your feedom come and let you

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Speaker 7: and will be done in here.

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Speaker 3: Let your glory rise.

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Speaker 5: Let's your sun.

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Speaker 4: Shine, head.

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Speaker 1: Cloud, a little summon ray.

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Speaker 7: We will show because we go after the ninth side, we.

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Speaker 1: Come be up. Hey, both this grace.

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Speaker 3: You'll kill the girl.

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Speaker 7: He ain't come all hey, tell me, tell me kid,

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Speaker 1: We ain't gonna be out.

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Speaker 3: Oh jeez, speak of be your son.

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Speaker 1: We believe he come the all day.

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Speaker 3: I wanna never count you nor No, I'm until I

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna live near me, sive anywhere that your promise

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's show him.

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Speaker 1: He must.

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Speaker 3: This damn speak. We all right, don't worry about no,

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Speaker 3: I never control the roe on that.

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Speaker 1: We gonna be out right.

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Speaker 7: Go on to Marster said we are yeah, yeah, brather not.

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Speaker 1: Still fight will that we.

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Speaker 7: Gonna be all It's gonna be all right. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be all right. It's gonna be all right.

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Speaker 3: Gotta go y'all.

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Speaker 7: Last time said we're gonna be we gonna be on

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Speaker 7: we're a man doing borrow night. Yeah, only one night though,

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Speaker 3: If you hurt, make sure that you hurt. Yeah, only

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Speaker 3: Hey, Joey comes in the morning. Yeah, whoa, I feel good, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Joy comes in the morning. Get time.

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Speaker 3: Joy comes in the morning. Can y'all see it? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Joey comes in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Check it out.

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Speaker 3: I can see your broth good.

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Speaker 1: Days, hoday.

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Speaker 3: I can see your priens hood day. See hoday.

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Speaker 1: Looking like a brand good day?

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Speaker 1: Hell a pain? Honday.

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Speaker 3: I gotta go, so we gonna be out right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rage.

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Speaker 3: And leaning up with the stool three times winnings. Hi,

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Speaker 3: you did that?

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Speaker 1: Be all right?

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Speaker 3: I'm listening to the words of the song and thinking

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Speaker 3: about everything that's transpired over the last five years. How

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Speaker 8: I believe if we just stay consistent, keep encouraging people,

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Speaker 1: Their life where all they have is that hope and

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Speaker 8: They could keep fighting and trying other things and other

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Speaker 8: God is the way, Jesus is the way he can

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Speaker 1: Yo. He did it for me.

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Speaker 8: It's not even about convincing people. It's about being a

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Speaker 8: in here. God is good to me.

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Speaker 1: His way works for me.

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Speaker 3: And when they hear your consistency on that Christ content.

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Speaker 8: When they hit rock bottom, they're gonna remember what you

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Speaker 3: But He also wants you to remember that when you're

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Speaker 8: That's the thing about That's the thing about God. He's

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Speaker 8: reigns on the just as well as the unjust. It's

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Speaker 8: the matter of the heart. Do you think it's you

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Speaker 8: a little boy, the wise men brought their gifts to Jesus.

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Speaker 8: Wise men bring their gifts, their success, their everything to him.

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Speaker 1: If you're wise, you'll lean on him more.

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Speaker 3: I read. I don't know if it's true or not.

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Speaker 10: Hold on, hold on, shame, don't turn that cart off,

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Speaker 10: the shad that you could not play the key until

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Speaker 10: you spoke in other tongues, other brother, not your typical tongue.

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Speaker 3: Not the typical talk. Not.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I grew up very Pentecosta, very legalistic. They ain't

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Speaker 8: I felt like now I'm not gonna I felt like

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Speaker 8: I was the most talented person in the church. That okay,

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Speaker 8: But I was sitting there every Sunday like man, let

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Speaker 3: I worried about heaven.

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Speaker 1: Later I got to fix their service tonight.

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Speaker 8: So twelve years old, it happened for me and I started,

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Speaker 11: Wow, yeah, man, it was crazy back then. Man, y'all

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Speaker 11: did those cheer Revival with all the what are you

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Speaker 11: got them new mosquitoes that ain't come out yet.

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Speaker 3: Bucks everywhere.

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Speaker 8: Man, we had all that in that tempt me by

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Speaker 8: we was kicking it out through praising God.

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Speaker 3: Introduce you to your group. I want I want to

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: All you want to know about the ess is this

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Speaker 8: is This is Brandon right here.

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Speaker 3: Brandon man. This is Jalisa Fay right here, Lisa.

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Speaker 8: This is Jocelyn right here, soprano alto tenor.

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Speaker 3: This is Joe right here. Okay, that's my main man, Joe.

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Speaker 8: But there he holds it down to my producer, all

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Speaker 8: that stuff. We can do all this stuff together.

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Speaker 3: This is Jr.

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Speaker 1: On the drums right here. It's a little nephew.

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Speaker 8: And I got one brother in the whole entire world.

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Speaker 8: I got one brother and that's him. That's status right here.

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Speaker 8: That's my brother, base player, friend, all that good stuff.

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Speaker 8: So we want to be happy family here time.

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Speaker 3: Looking at some of your music, Collapse Music, Soul Child,

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Speaker 3: Jill Scott, The Ruth, Jessica Simpson, Floora Try Common Erkabad,

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Speaker 3: Luther vandros Stevie. Wonder what were those experiences like you.

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Speaker 1: I didn't do any of that.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like.

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Speaker 8: An animated story about the life of Moses.

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Speaker 8: All these Once you got in the funnel, it just

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Speaker 3: All right, Keil, Yeah, before we get you got started

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Speaker 3: with Nickelodeon back in nineteen ninety four. Yeah, ninety four,

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Speaker 1: I definitely had a job. I did different things, you

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Speaker 3: Early on, you had some something tragic happened in your life.

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Speaker 3: Your best friend, Yeah, was murdered at a very young age.

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Speaker 3: What impact did that have on you?

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Speaker 1: Km oh Man a very big impact, you know what

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Speaker 3: How did the Nickelodeon How did the Nickelodeon give come about?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Man, Well, you know I was a bit of a

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Speaker 1: That was never the thing. It was for my parents.

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Speaker 1: So think about it is they put me in everything

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Speaker 3: When you auditioned, did you know you had got the role?

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Speaker 1: I didn't get it. And I remember it was a

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Speaker 1: what what? No, Hey, thank you Jesus. Then we went

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you get all of that, so you froze

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Speaker 1: Yeah man, yeah, it was deep, Like I would say, froze.

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Speaker 1: I just I have finals on the brand and my

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Speaker 1: and everything, you know, prior to that for years.

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Speaker 3: So how did you learn to develop your character? Because

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Speaker 3: you said they asked you to be impress impersonations and

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Speaker 3: Did you think they might? Well, they might ask me

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Speaker 1: No, check it out. So it wasn't scripted. This was

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Speaker 1: literally like what impersonations do you have? So most kids

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Speaker 2: I did stuff that I saw on the L train,

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Speaker 1: I coached people that I knew, okay, and I just

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Speaker 1: you know, And that's how a lot of the characters

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Speaker 1: that I had was so original on all that.

441
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Speaker 3: Well, But how do you learn as a child to

442
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 3: like play to the cameras, play to the crowd. That's

443
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 3: because you said you were class cloud, But so when

444
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 3: you're in a class, everybody's watching you anyway, so you don't.

445
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 3: It's not like you have to play the thay, you

446
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 3: just be yourself. How did you learn how the stage presence?

447
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 1: Theater? Okay, that's really what helped me do it, you know,

448
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: shout out to naku JAHI that was my first theater,

449
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: you know, drama teacher. And in summer, I remember my

450
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 1: first time being on stage. We did a play and

451
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: he was amazing, like he would write his own plays.

452
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: He did this thing. It was kind of like The

453
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: Wiz mixed with you know, Beach Street aff like that.

454
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: And it was called Casino in the Coconut And I

455
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: got to play this character named Rattles where I was

456
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: a narrator, and he taught us how to really become

457
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: the character, you know, really become the character. Where does

458
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: the paracter come from?

459
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 8: Is?

460
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: What is he like? What did he like to eat?

461
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: So I was trained and knowing how to do that,

462
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: and then I started. I went from doing the plays

463
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 1: with the teens to also doing plays at night too

464
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: as well with a lot of different adults, you know

465
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so I started to really understand

466
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: the craft and really understand theater and didn't act up

467
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: at school as.

468
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Speaker 2: Much because now I was having a job.

469
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: You know, I had a job and I found, you know,

470
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: what my talent was, and I really enjoyed it and

471
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to learn every aspect of it. You know.

472
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Speaker 3: Did you feel like you did you feel like it

473
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Speaker 3: was acting or you were being killed?

474
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: Hmm?

475
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 2: I was being killed, you know what I mean.

476
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Speaker 1: Because there's a thing, you know, what God annoying you

477
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: with and the talent that he gives you, you know

478
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Speaker 1: what I mean. So I was just doing that. But

479
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: it was beautiful to find it, you know what I mean.

480
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: It was beautiful to find like, oh I can do

481
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: this on and this could actually be a career. And

482
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Speaker 1: I remember one of the actors when I was doing

483
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: one of the plays, I think it was Dirt. It

484
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: was this this play called Dirt, and I remember one

485
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: of the adult actors came up to me and he

486
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: was just like, you got to enjoy this stuff. He said,

487
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do this for life, you gotta know,

488
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: you gotta enjoy it because it's a lot of ups

489
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: and downs and things that go on with this. He

490
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: told me that at a very young age, and at

491
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: the time, I know what he meant. You know what

492
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: I mean, because I'm living with my parents right, stuff

493
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: like that. But becoming an adel, I understood what he

494
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: meant and I thank him for giving me that advice.

495
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, how did you you and Keenan Thompson. How do

496
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 3: you guys hit it off so quickly?

497
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: Hmmm?

498
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 6: Uh?

499
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: You know what you know, being both black, that helps,

500
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: that helps. You know, we had the same type of background.

501
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm from the South Side of Chicago, Atlanta, you know

502
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it was just a thing like

503
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: I remember we introduced TLC, right, and when we introduced

504
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: TLC for the pilot episode, because you know, all that

505
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: was just a pilot. It wasn't supposed to be a

506
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: show thos a series, right, you know, so they were

507
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: trying it out. Nickelodeon had never tried anything like this

508
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: before with musical guests. People say it's like SNL for kids,

509
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: but it's really I felt like it was in living

510
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: color for kids, you know what I mean, just because

511
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: how diverse it was and the type of musical acts

512
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: we had on the show. But yeah, we tried to

513
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: did it. And I remember Keenan and I had a

514
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: sketch called Mavis and Clavis, but we played two old

515
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: guys and we were doing this characters and I would

516
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: tell Joe Key knew exactly what I was gonna say.

517
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 2: I knew exactly what he was gonna say, and it

518
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: just worked at that moment.

519
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 1: And after that, everybody kind of saw like, oh, these

520
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: two worked very well together, and so did we. And yeah,

521
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 1: it was on screen, off screen, we did the same thing.

522
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Speaker 3: What made them pair you guys? Besides being black? What

523
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: made them pay you? You think that was the only

524
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: reason they put you two guys?

525
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that it was that sketch. So it

526
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: was literally that mayvison Clavis's sketch that they saw these

527
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: kids are definitely funny together and they play off each

528
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: other very well, and they started putting us in different

529
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: sketches together and it just it worked. It just worked.

530
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: And we didn't know anything about like Abne Costello or

531
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: Martin Lewis or comedic duos. And Kim Field, who was

532
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: one of our directors, she actually introduced us to that.

533
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: She was like, I want you to see Martin Lewis

534
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: because you guys are similar to this. And we looked

535
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: and we're like, yo, it's just like, yeah, we're like

536
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: a comedic duo. This is dope.

537
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 3: So when they told you guys, you're going to have

538
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: your own show, yeah, yeah, what went through your mind immediately?

539
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: Well, we were doing on that for a few seasons, right, so,

540
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: and it had became popular after a while, and then

541
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: usually we would go home and go to school on hiatus. Right.

542
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: So they hit us up and was like, you guys

543
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: are going to stay here all right during the time.

544
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: You guys want to stay here while the other kids go,

545
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: and we want to do your own show because we

546
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: see you guys off stage two and you guys are hilarious.

547
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: So we were funny off stage two. And they saw that,

548
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 2: and so.

549
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: Then after that they said, you're gonna have your own show.

550
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: They didn't know the name of it. I remember we

551
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: had a list of names. It was like me and

552
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: a hommy in all this different stuff and you know,

553
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: stuff they probably wouldn't have work. And I remember somebody

554
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: at the dinner it was just like, yo, just call

555
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: it Keenan n Kell, you know what I mean, called

556
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: after their names. And it really worked because we loved

557
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: like Martin and Fresh, Prince of bel Air and all

558
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: these different shows, and this would be our show. So

559
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: then simultaneously had the sketch Show and then we also

560
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: had the sitcom at the same time. Yeah, it was dope.

561
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: We's some of your fondest memories of that fondest members.

562
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, it's so many. I mean, like, you know,

563
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: I was also in the hip hop. I feel like

564
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: I tell people hip hop and church save my life,

565
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

566
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 3: So, uh, you know I was you have a bunch

567
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: of jobs.

568
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, man, I was. I was a B

569
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: boy in the South Side of Chicago. So I break dance,

570
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: I did graffiti, I did the whole thing. So shout

571
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: out to the mortal Masters of cry Line. That's what

572
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: we recalled IMK so but yeah, man, I just I

573
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: loved that.

574
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 3: Man.

575
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 1: And I remember I was into music, so I did

576
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: a lot of music first, and so I was doing

577
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: hip hop and we got on the show to have

578
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: tlc B, you know, our musical guest and do the

579
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: theme song. Wow. You know, we had Aliyah, we had

580
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: Brandy Usher, all of them like right when they were

581
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: getting started, so it was awesome. Those are the memories

582
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, doing mama jokes with el el

583
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: Koja and you know what I mean, and getting to

584
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: chop it up with busting rhymes. And then because I rap,

585
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: they would allow me to freestyle like all the time

586
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: with a lot of different one of them, so you know,

587
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: freestyling with Coolio on stage and stuff. Those are cool memories.

588
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, where did this love or this infatuation with orange

589
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 3: soda come from?

590
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so the writer wrote you know who loves orange soda?

591
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: I don't know where his mind went with that. I actually,

592
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: now being older, I feel like it was a branding thing, like,

593
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, to to promote soda or something like that

594
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: with Nickelodeon. But they wrote that in there, and I

595
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: just kind of t painted like I put like that,

596
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: I do I do I do to the you know,

597
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: to the point now where I go five star restaurant

598
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: wherever it may be. You know, people still go, yo,

599
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: you're gonna get hornge soda. You got to get to

600
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: the horng soda. So it's crazy.

601
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 3: I mean you mentioned back some of these up and

602
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: coming TLC and Aliyah and Brandy and Usher and uh,

603
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: I think Britney Spears made an appearance. You're like, this

604
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: is pretty cool. Yeah, when you go back home, I mean,

605
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: what do you when you go back home? What are

606
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: your friends? What do they think of Kale?

607
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: Now, well, here's the thing. It was funny because it's

608
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: not like today where like the show's come on right immediately,

609
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it took a little

610
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: bit for it to happen. And I remember, h it

611
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: was Nickelodeon was more for the kids at first, and

612
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: so we were the ones that made it like cool

613
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: for the teens to watch and the tweens to watch,

614
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: right uh. And I was trying to stay low, you

615
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because where I grew up at

616
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: when I go back to go, I ain't really want

617
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: anybody to know that I was on the show, you

618
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was just trying to skirt

619
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: it through. And I remember the freshman at my high school,

620
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: one of them just started screaming as I was walking

621
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: the whole like hey yo. And then one of my

622
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: teachers ended up playing one of the episodes for my class,

623
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: and after that it got kind of kind of wild,

624
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

625
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: If you could go back, we're gonna put you back

626
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: at that age. Okay, right in today? Okay, what three

627
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: musical guests would you like to have on the show

628
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: for today?

629
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually did a reboot of all that and

630
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: we got to bring a lot of people on the

631
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: show back in twenty nineteen, so Her was on there,

632
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: which was amazing. We had a lot of great guests. Man,

633
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: that was just amazing, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

634
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: the Jonas brothers, you know, everybody. Man, we had everybody.

635
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this. You and music videos, you with

636
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: Kanye West with all falls down down, heal, young and

637
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: dumb and bro. Bro.

638
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

639
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: Your resume just as a child without even talking about

640
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: moving forward was so expansive.

641
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know that's the man. That's

642
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: the god Man and a lot of that because it's funny.

643
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: Because okay, so let's break it down. So when you

644
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: mentioned that that's two different areas of my life. Yeah,

645
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: with Kanye, I was in a dell, you know. So

646
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: it's like a thing because me and Keenan look very young.

647
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: So a lot of times people were like, we're still.

648
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: Kids, y'all.

649
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we grown, you know what I mean. So

650
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: even on the show it was like that too. You know,

651
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: we had to shave and you know, still look young

652
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: because you know, we got on the show when we

653
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: were like Sophomorre's juniors in high school. It went on

654
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: them for a few years. Yeah, man, But to be

655
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 1: on all those platforms and half Kanye called me up

656
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: and to be your backage carrier on the show and

657
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: work with Common again, and that's just that Chicago love, right,

658
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: you know Chicago. You know I knew Common already. Me

659
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: and Common had a freestyle battle at Metro Music my sister.

660
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I won on the knowledge playing yeah

661
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: Common one that I was doing chriscross stuff. I was like,

662
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: it's can get the kill on the Meginni making.

663
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: You know, So, how did this come about. I understand that.

664
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: You say, you know obviously comments from Chicago Kanye, So

665
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: were you familiar with someone in his group? They were

666
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: familiar with you, So how did this come about?

667
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing, man, A lot of the comedians,

668
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: like you know, d Ray and Common and you know,

669
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: the hip hop just Chicago in general, we all support

670
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: one another on the South Side. You gotta remember, I

671
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: got started in ninety four, right, so you know a

672
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: lot of people that were starting to get on around

673
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: ninety six, ninety sev ninety eight, they already knew about me.

674
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: So it's like Me, Jason Weaver, Lorenz Tate, all of

675
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: us are from Chicago, you know what I mean. And

676
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: we were already doing like they were doing in a

677
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: society and he was doing the Maca Jackson's story, So

678
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: all these different things, man, So shout out to the

679
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 1: city of Chicago. Man.

680
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: We all know each other, seeing each other around.

681
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: So it's been good. Yeah.

682
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think there's any better person to ask

683
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: about this than you, considering your background. You're in the

684
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: hip hop community, your musician.

685
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up with you?

686
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: Rap beef? Why everybody treat teaming up on Drake I

687
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: I didn't even know they had a beef. I didn't

688
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: know anybody had a problem.

689
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's wild, you know what I mean. Everybody

690
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: going at it. I mean, that's that's hip hop, you

691
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And we're gonna see as long

692
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: as everybody keep it peaceful, it's all good.

693
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't know. I didn't know Ross was

694
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: at Drake, Future in Booming was at Drake. I mean,

695
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, what did what did I miss? I mean,

696
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: I know I ain't It's immersed in the cultures when

697
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: I was younger, but damn, I didn't know that this

698
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: was undercurrent.

699
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: You know that. No, I didn't know. I didn't. I

700
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: don't have any insidy. I'm just enjoying the music, man,

701
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: and enjoying the music.

702
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: Oh I forgot k So let me ask you a question.

703
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: So is this really? Is this really beef? I mean,

704
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: because you know they Chris Brown going at Quavo that's beef.

705
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: That's a disc. You know what I'm saying, You know, saying, hey,

706
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: Big three is big me?

707
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't know.

708
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: You know, Quebecca, you know, uh Nas and Home that's

709
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: a disc. Remy Ma, that's a disc. Is this what

710
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: what what Kendrick did the cole that.

711
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I look at it.

712
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: It's different generations and how they're doing this, how they're

713
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: doing it, you know, like I said, just keep it peaceful, yeah,

714
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, and enjoy the music.

715
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: No breeze, ain't keep it peaceful. Yeah, I.

716
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: Pray.

717
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris, Yeah, he got the flame he murdered out

718
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: of the city. Real man parody you get, uh, Prince fifty,

719
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: Michael Row. When doing research on you, yeah, you are

720
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: like talented, beyond talent. There's there's not anything that you

721
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: really can't do. You can sing, like I said, obviously

722
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: you're a musician, you can do impressions, you can do bro.

723
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. You know. Look, I really look at

724
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: Triple Threats and I think, you know, theater really helped

725
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: me out that. But I really like, uh like you know,

726
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: like Sammy Davis, Junior rat Pack, I'm from that, you

727
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I love that type of style,

728
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, of people just being in Triple Threats, singing, rapped,

729
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, whatever it may be, and just enjoying his

730
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: journey whatever it is. I love to try everything, you

731
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and try it and see you

732
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: know how good I could be at it? And yeah, man,

733
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: it's been good.

734
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: What's your favorite parody?

735
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: My favorite period that I'm done yet you done? I

736
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: got a bunch of them. I like original stuff too,

737
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: but I got a bunch of them. Oh no, I

738
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: can't pick it just one, man. I like doing fifty

739
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: fifty was fun. Fifty was fun. When I did fifty

740
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: cent that was pretty cool.

741
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was Freaknick the musical? Tell us about what.

742
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: Was Freaknick the musical? That was?

743
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 3: Did you ever did you come to Freaknick?

744
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: No? I never, I never went to Freak Nick. We were, yeah,

745
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: we rolling all that at the time, doing that. But

746
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: but yeah, let me see Freedi's music with T Paint. Yeah,

747
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: so shout out to T Paint. That's the hommy uh

748
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: and I remember and Carl Jones the Boon Docks and

749
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: all them, and they were doing He's the Ghost of

750
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: Free Nick. So when Freaknick was around him and T

751
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: Pain became the ghost to Free Nick, it was me

752
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: Afion Krackhead Rick Crosses in there to l Wayne, you

753
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I played a lot of different characters.

754
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: Me and a fian did a lot of original music

755
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: in it, so it was cool.

756
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, explain us the Lord of Squad. I mean, with

757
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: Tyler to create ro how many groups were you in?

758
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: You just jumping shout out to Tyler Man. Tyler is

759
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: hilarryous too.

760
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 1: I just you know, I really enjoy working with different

761
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: artists and comedians as well. And you know, I'm never

762
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: just like the battling with the comedians and all this

763
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that. It's all love, you know, and and

764
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: enjoying every moment. And so I remember, Lord Squad just was.

765
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: They're fans of all that, and you know they reached

766
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: out to me and shout out to Tyler. He did

767
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: great Coachella just the other night.

768
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: A lot of what's happened to you early you were

769
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 3: in high school. So once you got on, how different

770
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 3: did the kids treat you? How different was your life

771
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 3: for when all this started transpiring.

772
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: You know, shout out to my parents. Man, They kept

773
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: me pretty grounded, you know what I mean. Their whole

774
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: thing is like, yo, you you you still kill you

775
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: checking out the dubage you're doing this, you know what

776
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you know, my dad is a retired

777
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: social worker and my mom is a retired teacher, you know,

778
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: so they took it real serious. And then I'm in

779
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: the middle of a child or two sisters shout out

780
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: to my sister's kata in Caira. So no, no, I

781
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: didn't really act much different.

782
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: Did people treat you different?

783
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean you got to think of like the

784
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: people that didn't know me, now, my real homies, you

785
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: know who I know, they already knew what was going on.

786
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: They was rooting for me. I even put them on

787
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: the show because remember I told you a rap two

788
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: as well, so we got to perform on the show

789
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: too as well. And uh yeah.

790
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: But people that that didn't know me, of course, they

791
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: were just fans.

792
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: And that's the thing where you have to navigate as

793
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: a team whether this person wants to be my friend

794
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: just because I'm on the show or just because you know. Yeah, man,

795
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, you do have to navigate.

796
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: Did you did you experience any negativity?

797
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: Of course? You know what I mean.

798
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: Of course you experienced that a lot of times.

799
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: You know, you experienced toxic friends, people in toxic relationships,

800
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: all those different things.

801
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: Did you feel at that point in time, You're like, man,

802
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: I'm on top of the world. They can't be I

803
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: can only go out for here. Ain't no downside this,

804
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: It's only up from here.

805
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: No, I never felt like top of the world.

806
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: I think it was a thing where as it was happening,

807
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: we were experiencing it in such a way where it

808
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: was like really surreal, Like, you know, this show that

809
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: we did that was supposed to only be a special

810
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: Now it's taken off, and it's taken off very fast.

811
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: People are really enjoying it, and so it was like

812
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: learning it along the way.

813
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, you and Keenan had your characters. Your sketch

814
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: turned the characters on Gudburger.

815
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah bad Yeah, yeah, Gudburger had Gudburger was one of

816
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: those sketches where when I did the voice in the

817
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: audition and then they created it on the show as

818
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: well and gave them a whole entire world musical guests

819
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: love to be on the Good Burger, like, you know

820
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: sketches which were great. And even before we did the movie,

821
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: we had put out a soundtrack and I remember Immature

822
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: was the you know, the Big Boy group at the time,

823
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: and Brian Robbins shout out to Brian Robbins, Uh, one

824
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: of our executive producers he was like, yo, I want you.

825
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna do an album and play all the musical

826
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: guests that were in there, but we're gonna do an

827
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: original song and you get to rap with immature And

828
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, dope, you know what I mean.

829
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking I'm rapping his met because you know

830
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: I rap, but he's like, no, you gotta wrap his head.

831
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, from good marker, I gotta wrap

832
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: his head, right. So we owe the way to the

833
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: studio and I was like, well, it about to be spitting.

834
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: I put it together and even to this day now

835
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: it's on TikTok and all of this, like people have

836
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: discovered the music video again. So it's just been really cool.

837
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: When you do these sketches, when you do these impressions,

838
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: do you know, do you have a sense of like, man,

839
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be really big, or you

840
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: just like I'm just doing I'm doing the best I

841
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 3: possibly can and it's gonna go old and it's gonna

842
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: do what it does.

843
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: It's always been the best that I can and seeing

844
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: it grow and being in awe of that, you know

845
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: what I mean, and all of the fan base and

846
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: all the people just enjoying it. I never go like, oh,

847
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: this is gonna hit, because you don't know, you know

848
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: what I mean. You just got to have that faith

849
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: that it's gonna rock, you know. And for me being

850
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: in a position that I was in, you know, being

851
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: on this show, I was thankful to be on it,

852
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And with this ensemble that

853
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: I was on, and it's just rocking and being the

854
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: best that I can within each character.

855
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, Good Burger has become a cult classic. I mean

856
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 3: they love it.

857
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

858
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: How does that make you feel? Knowing that something you

859
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 3: created such a long time ago has stood the test

860
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: of time.

861
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: It's a blessing, man. I mean to have a character

862
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: that put a smile on people faces, you know, hearing

863
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: the stories of people, you know, saying the first time

864
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: they saw Goodburger or the sketches that they enjoy. I

865
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: have one person come up to me and saying, man,

866
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: I was in the hospital and Good Burger came on

867
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: and it just made me laugh and it helped with

868
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: my healing process.

869
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: And here's stories like that is what's beautiful to me,

870
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

871
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: And then to be blessed to come back and do

872
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: good Burger too after so many years and have young

873
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: kids that are five years old. It wasn't born when

874
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: the first one came out. Doing good Burger you know,

875
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: parties and birthday parties and themed parties.

876
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: It's been awesome man.

877
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, with all the success, obviously that money is involved.

878
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: So how did that change your life? I mean, did

879
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: you did y'all? Do did you ever just move on up?

880
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: Or did you did you stay in the location where

881
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: you where you and your family? Yeah?

882
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: Man, So here's the thing. Like we started to show

883
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: in Florida, Okay, right, and like I said, like I

884
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: was in high school and then I graduated, and then

885
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: it was time for college.

886
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: So all of us had to kind of like figure

887
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: that out.

888
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: So we all started staying in our own places at

889
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: that point and navigating being an adult.

890
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: And so now it was a delting you know, with

891
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: this and all of that. So yeah, we had some

892
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: we had some fun.

893
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: So did you So what did you do? I mean,

894
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: obviously you're making we're making great money. You make more

895
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: than the average fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year old. Did you

896
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: were you reckless?

897
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was reckless with my spending.

898
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't reckless. It was definitely a learning curve as

899
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: far as like learning. But shout out to my parents

900
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: for helping me within that. But yeah, I tested certain

901
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: things that I wouldn't have before. Was definitely there.

902
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I read that Nick Cannon was in the audience.

903
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: You and Nick became very good friends. He's in the

904
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: audience when all that, So talk to us about the

905
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: relationship that you developed with Nick over the years.

906
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like little bro. I remember he was

907
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: doing stand up and he actually got on there and

908
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: I remember him being on there and he was super funny,

909
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: warming up the audience. Yeah, so that was pretty cool.

910
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: So you were warm up the audience, make everybody laugh.

911
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: And they asked us the producers, actual, yo, do y'all

912
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: want him to be on the show to do a sketch?

913
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: And we're like yeah, like of course, dude, it's funny,

914
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: and he killed it.

915
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was the start because did you know

916
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: did you know him Nick prior to him coming and.

917
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: Not prior to him coming on and being a warm

918
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: up guy because we always had warm up guys that

919
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: would do it, and this was a team that was

920
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: actually the warm up guy for the show. To make

921
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: everybody laugh in between sets because they're there for like,

922
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, three four hours in an audience, and he

923
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: would make them laugh in between scenes.

924
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, super talented man. Great family too.

925
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: I read you inspired Nick on naming of some of

926
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 3: his kids. He gotta mean, yeah, there's only so many names.

927
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: He got a bunch of kids.

928
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: He got a bunch man.

929
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sola explained, I mean, how do you I mean,

930
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: when you talk to Nick and you guys your relationship,

931
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: do y'all like, are you serious? Or do y'all joke

932
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: a lot with each other?

933
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, So here's the dynamic all of us are.

934
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: You know, we're grown ups now, you know what I mean,

935
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: we're dad's you know what I mean. But before it

936
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: was like big brother. You know what I'm saying, I'm

937
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: his big brother. He was little brouh and he's just

938
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: learning the ropes, learning, you know, Hollywood, learning all these

939
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: different things. And I would definitely looked out for him,

940
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: saying with me and Keenan, we were just like big bros.

941
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, you own everything you on sister sister you

942
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 3: Steve Harvey show bro, you got a lot of credits.

943
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate.

944
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't graduated college by sam a time

945
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: with all the credits you guys.

946
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

947
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: I mean, why why did you? I guess I mean

948
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say why, But how were you able to

949
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: get on so many sitcoms?

950
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: Humm? So many sitcoms? Well, okay, so Sister Sister happened

951
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: because when we were on that show on Keenan to

952
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: Keel and we were doing that, I wanted to be

953
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: on other shows as well, you know, and the guy

954
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: that actually created Keenan n Keel, he also created his

955
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: Sister Sister show took you know what I mean. So

956
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: it was cool to have that same, yeah, natural transition.

957
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: But my thing was I started going when we came

958
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: to LA. I started like sitting down in the audience

959
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: at other shows. Yeah. I would sit down another shows

960
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: and just kind of rub show, and uh, they were

961
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: like they all need to be on one of the episodes,

962
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, let's get it in the Keenan Now.

963
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: They put us on Sister's Sister, which was awesome. Uh.

964
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: Then we got on the Steve Harvey Show as well.

965
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: We don't still we might as well have become regulars

966
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: on the Steve Vibus shows. We did so many episodes

967
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: over there.

968
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 3: Did you get an opportunity to to meet, to mingle

969
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: and hang with Steve?

970
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 2: Of course?

971
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Steve gave me a lot of great advice.

972
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: Everybody everybody says that I'm talking you had a lot

973
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: of comedian They had a lot of people come on

974
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: the show and they say, Steve is great man.

975
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: Bro Steve's that dude. Man. He gave it like great.

976
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: He told me. He was just like, you're not gonna

977
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: are you gonna still be able to do that character

978
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: with you know, with a beard and you get a

979
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: mustache and do you still want to do this? And

980
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: so you got to start thinking of like what's your

981
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: transition of graduating to different roles? And I thought about

982
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: that a lot, you know what I mean within him

983
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: giving me that advice, and it was great advice to

984
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: have it.

985
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 3: How much they're gonna pay me to shave? The question

986
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 3: time at the time.

987
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: We were, you know, we were definitely shaving and all

988
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: that stuff. Say, yeah, I gotten.

989
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 3: Lady for hero, how about they paying me you on

990
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: the Parkers?

991
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Monique, Yeah, shout out to Monique Man. Also amazing

992
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: at a great time counts. Vine. Yes, Monique is amazing

993
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: me and Monique also worked with Spike Lee as well,

994
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: did a Pepsi commercial Super Bowl commercial. So yeah, I

995
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: mean we've known it, Like I said, Man, we've been

996
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: at it since ninety four.

997
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: So Bro, I mean half and half one on one

998
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: of the game's rental of the Teenage which cousins Keeter

999
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: Bro you got like, No, I don't know if any

1000
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: kid has been on more More. Anybody's been on more

1001
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: Sick called the TV shows and you Bro, Man.

1002
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: All the things that you've done thus far? What's your favorite?

1023
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: All the things I've done?

1024
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: All the things? I mean, because you're a musician, you wrap,

1025
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: you've been in the sitcom, you done, sketch com, you've done.

1026
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you're minister. So what's the what what gives

1027
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: kill the most fulfillment.

1028
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: Being being me and doing what God wants me to do.

1029
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1030
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: I really feel like enjoying the journey it's been. It's

1031
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 2: been a journey like y'all.

1032
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: You know when you talk about all those different resumes

1033
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: and the things I did, But what I remember is

1034
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: the things that I was going through throughout their entire process,

1035
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: every time and every moment of the journey within learning

1036
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: this journey, and so for me, that's what it's about.

1037
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: You know, you get one life. Yeah, then you live

1038
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: again in heaven.

1039
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: But it's just having this one life, you know what

1040
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: I mean, and where it can take, you know, those

1041
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: different steps in learning from everything.

1042
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: That's that's been the beauty in it, you know what

1043
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: I mean.

1044
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm looking at some of your voiceover work Player for

1045
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 3: The Big Red Dog, Proud Family, Curious, George Robot, Chicken,

1046
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: Benky Tail, SpongeBob Squat. Yeah, I mean I've done. I

1047
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: did one voice so I did one voice over. Actually

1048
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 3: I was actually myself. I think it was an American

1049
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: dad and I really liked it. And a lot of

1050
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: and you see a lot of big times of lambs

1051
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: are doing voiceovers. Did you really do you like it?

1052
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed. One person that I really looked up

1053
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: to was John Ritter, Right, John Riddle was amazing. When

1054
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I used to have this little TV,

1055
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: you know with the little buttons. So I used to

1056
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: turn that on, turn it down very low so my

1057
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: parents can hear it, and we'll watch it under my

1058
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: blanket and watch these company and his comedic physical physicality

1059
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: as far as the physical comedian, he was Clifford, Clifford

1060
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: the Big Red Dog. And so that was like my

1061
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: first introduction to doing voiceover work and working with Cree Summers,

1062
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: who is just amazing voiceover actress. And uh, I just

1063
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: learned it. And I love doing voiceover work. I mean,

1064
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: and you can do it in your pajamas if you want,

1065
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: if you want to, but you really got It's it's

1066
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: an art to doing it too.

1067
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 3: If a kid actor, what advice would you give kids

1068
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: that want to go the route that you did? What

1069
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: some of the device you would give them?

1070
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 6: Oh?

1071
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: Man, I have a good uh sense of self and

1072
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: who you are.

1073
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: You know, you go through a lot within his business

1074
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: and ups and downs and things that you go through, right,

1075
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: and it's finding don't lose sight of yourself throughout the process.

1076
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: When we brought all that back in twenty nineteen, it

1077
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: was very important to me that I spoke to the

1078
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: kids and I remember when I saw all of them

1079
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: for the first time, it was a whole new cast.

1080
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: I remember going in there and I said, Yo, the

1081
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: Lord told me, tell all of them something that you

1082
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: wish somebody told you. And I told them, like, this

1083
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: is not the thing that makes you important, or this

1084
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: is not the thing that makes you like, oh I

1085
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: can do this is this is one stepping stone of

1086
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: your life that you're going to be in and so

1087
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: you were made special when you were needed in the

1088
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: room when you were born. So don't competition with one another.

1089
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: Have fun while you're doing this, but understand this is

1090
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: a job. I understand that this is a job and

1091
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: it's going to be other jobs do as well. And

1092
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: seeing them grow now with them being on other different

1093
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: shows now, and they really understood that. And then I

1094
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: flew my parents out too. I flew my parents out

1095
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: because a lot of parents are green within it too

1096
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: when it's just starting. And I wanted my parents to

1097
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: give that person respective to their parents and it was

1098
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: a beautiful moment. A lot of their parents were crying

1099
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: within that moment when they heard my parents talking to

1100
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: them as well, and it was just a great moment.

1101
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: And I asked Nickelodeon to be able to do that

1102
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: because I feel like it's very important. It's at least

1103
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of you guys, you get other

1104
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: older at least that you know pull back kind of

1105
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: tell you advice about what to expect these actors, we

1106
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: just get thrown into it, you know what I mean.

1107
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: And so we got to look back, as you know,

1108
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: veteran actors and actually sit down and have real conversations

1109
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: with the younger ones to let them know what to

1110
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: expect and how to navigate through it too as well.

1111
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: How difficult was it navigating those early years because, like

1112
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: you said, you didn't have what you could give someone

1113
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: now because I don't like the mentorship, like if somebody

1114
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: could act, but there was no one that you could

1115
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 3: possibly ask about what you were going through.

1116
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: Facts in facts, it was coming fast.

1117
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. So I was playing it this

1118
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: way because a lot of people, like I said, I

1119
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: don't know the timeline because I've been in this business

1120
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: for so long, I don't really understand the time. Yeah yeah,

1121
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: over thirty years man. So when you look at it,

1122
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: I remember, what got me through was definitely the Lord.

1123
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: So that's what got me through. And then what got

1124
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: me through too is you know, staying the course. But

1125
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: how it started was was that I remember when I

1126
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: was doing the show ninety four, you know, having fun

1127
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: doing working on the show. But then around like when

1128
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: we started to come to La right when we started

1129
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: coming to LA and we did the show. I want

1130
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: to say that was ninety eight, I believe. So I

1131
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: had to be like nineteen or twenty years old, like

1132
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: not nineteen nineteen years old.

1133
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: Okay.

1134
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: So at this point, this is where I really understood

1135
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: branding and you and ownership. I love my characters that

1136
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: were on the show, because remember now I was creating

1137
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: these characters even within auditions, you know what I mean.

1138
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: So I love these characters. But I had to realize

1139
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: is that, but I don't own these characters. I don't

1140
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: own the show, do you know what I mean? These

1141
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: are people that work within the business, you know what

1142
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean. And so I remember there was a point

1143
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: where one of the exacts and one of the head

1144
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: writers the show started changing a little bit, you know,

1145
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: the writing of the show started to change, and I

1146
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: didn't like the direction that was going in, you know

1147
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I was just like, okay, and

1148
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: so we started butting hands a little bit, you know,

1149
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: within that, and this was the point where I remember,

1150
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: he got upset in front of everybody, took me, you know,

1151
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: took me to a room, you know what I mean,

1152
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: And it was just like said some real derogatory things,

1153
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, and went off.

1154
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1155
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean being from the South side of Chicago, in

1156
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: that thought process, it was like, Okay, either I could

1157
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: put ends on them, right, or we could go argue,

1158
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: this is not going any well, do you know what

1159
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean? And with him doing that, I mean, I

1160
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: am an adult, but I ownso on nineteen you know

1161
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: what I mean, and the things that he said was crazy,

1162
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: and in that moment, I'm not the man I am

1163
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: today stand here.

1164
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: So my thought process was I right, bet.

1165
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna leave you set and we're not gonna

1166
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: feel them today, you know what I mean. So I

1167
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: walked off set now knowing now being a producer, money,

1168
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: you gotta pay camera men, you gotta pay all these

1169
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: different things that could start a you know, that could

1170
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: be a training racket, that could be a tornado.

1171
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: Right, But at that moment, I felt.

1172
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: Disrespected about what was said and how it was said,

1173
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: and when he said that, within that moment it became

1174
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: real where it was like, oh, okay, this is this

1175
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: is really a job, and this has really changed everything

1176
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: of how you think about it, right, And it wasn't

1177
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: as fun anymore when that was happening at the same time.

1178
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: I was also in a relationship as well. And when

1179
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: I was in that relationship when this happened too, I

1180
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: had gotten you know, a girl pregnant. This is my

1181
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: ex wife. She was pregnant at the time. So all

1182
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: this was going on at the same time. And so

1183
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: this frustration and the reason I'm explaining this to you

1184
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: is because I want people to understand the mindset of,

1185
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, what might happen to young actors and the

1186
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: things that they're going through. You know, we see it

1187
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: all the time with the suicide raid with actors and

1188
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: what goes on. And I was friends with a lot

1189
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: of the actors that are not here anymore, and so

1190
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: just the process of the things that you deal with, right,

1191
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: So I'm, you know, button hands with this producer says

1192
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: this thing.

1193
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: At the same time, my ex wife is pregnant. We're

1194
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: dating at this time.

1195
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: And also too, as I'm going through all of this

1196
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: at the same time and dealing with this whole process,

1197
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm upset about it. I call my pops and I'm

1198
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: just like, when that happened with the producer, I'm upset,

1199
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: and he was just like, heyo, you know, did he

1200
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: disrespect you.

1201
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: As a man? How do you feel the man I

1202
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 2: am today?

1203
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: I should have told my dad, yeah, come on out,

1204
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: because he said, yo, I want to come out be

1205
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: there with you.

1206
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: But I said, no, it's all good. I had to

1207
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: it's all good.

1208
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: And what I did was I just said, you know what,

1209
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: all right, I'm always just do my job and I'm

1210
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: gonna do the best at what I can do. But

1211
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: as far as everybody else, you know what I mean,

1212
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: it's just me right now, and I'm just gonna make

1213
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: the show happen the way that I do. And because

1214
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: at that point it was a thing of I ended

1215
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: up going from here to here being a kid and

1216
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: then now being an adele. My mom was my manager

1217
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: at that time. And with my mom being my manager

1218
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: at the time, I didn't want to tell her I

1219
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: got a girl pregnant, you see what I'm saying. So

1220
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: if it was someone that was a manager and I

1221
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: could have just told him yeah, but I couldn't tell

1222
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: him at that time.

1223
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: So it was like, oh, shoot, I can't. I can't

1224
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: tell him this, you know what I mean.

1225
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: And so I'm dealing with that because you know, I'm

1226
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: dealing with that the whole time, she's you know, Belly

1227
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: Stun's show.

1228
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: We're trying to hide it. You know what type of thing.

1229
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 3: You're just eating a little more than what you're shooting.

1230
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, And and I'm having this frustration, you know,

1231
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: with this writer as well too, and that's going on.

1232
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: And then I remember she ended up she was just like, yo,

1233
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: I want to have an abortion right and dealing with

1234
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 1: that too as well, with no one knowing, no one knowing,

1235
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: So no one knowing we're doing that. And I'm still, hey,

1236
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: welcome to good Berg, Home to good you know, doing

1237
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: all these shows making people laugh and all these different

1238
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: things because I've been on you know, uh, good Morning America,

1239
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: all these different you know, interviews and shows and telling

1240
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: people about uh suicide of thoughts and emotions that you

1241
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: might go through. And I never really pointed pinpointed who

1242
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: the person was or who it is, you know, or

1243
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: the things that were going on.

1244
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: And this is what is going on. Something that's from

1245
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 2: sharing it with you.

1246
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: And so within that process of going on with that,

1247
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 1: it's emotional roller coaster that was going on at that point.

1248
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: And so that happens, and then what I ended up

1249
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: doing right after that, you know, ended up getting pre

1250
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: pregnant again, you know, throughout that process, even after we

1251
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: have the abortion, and then ended up getting married right

1252
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: as well. And so while that's going on with Nickelodeon,

1253
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm sort of like about to be on my way out,

1254
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: I became this I don't want to say where what's

1255
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: the word. It's more of likeer one lady. One lady

1256
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: ended up saying it like this what she called me

1257
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: the tupacat Nickelodeon, you know what I mean. So one

1258
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: of the people that we work with, I wouldn't say that,

1259
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: but this was what was said about me. And so

1260
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: because of the point where I just was kind of like,

1261
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: hey man, this is gonna be my show now, I'm

1262
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: gonna do it this way. And I didn't agree, and

1263
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: I didn't tell anybody what that you know, producer had

1264
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: said to me at that time, and what was going on,

1265
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, and what was said and even what I

1266
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: was going through personally within my life, what I was

1267
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: going through, I wasn't sharing that with anybody.

1268
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: And that's a lot of a.

1269
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: Problem when you isolate that and within that process you

1270
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: can go through a lot, you know what I mean.

1271
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: And holding all that frustration inside, right, but I still

1272
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: was able to have an outlet through the show, you know,

1273
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: through the show and doing that process. And I remember

1274
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: Mystery Man had came along with this movie called History

1275
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: that I did with Ben Stiller, Genega Raffalo, and so

1276
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: to me it was like, well, I'm on my way

1277
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: out in Nickelodeon.

1278
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: It's all good, you know what I mean.

1279
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: And a lot of people talk about, you know, Keenan

1280
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: and I as far as like the split between the

1281
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: keen and Niquel show. This is where it started. And

1282
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: I think that even Keenan didn't really know either what

1283
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 1: was going on because I didn't share what was going

1284
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: on with me in the head writer on the show

1285
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: when that happened, and what was going on, and I

1286
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: didn't trust anybody at that moment either.

1287
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you speak about these thoughts that you were having,

1288
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 3: and I think it was around two thousand and four,

1289
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: and you said that you were at your lowest and

1290
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: you contemplated taking your own life. You didn't talk, you

1291
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: didn't have a therapist, you didn't have anybody that you

1292
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 3: felt comfortable enough with to go sit down and have

1293
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 3: a conversation with, even if it's not a therapist, maybe

1294
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: a past or maybe closest friend. You held that you

1295
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: bottled that up inside and dealt with it on your own.

1296
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: So this is what I mean about the understanding of

1297
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: the timeline. Okay, So because that's a big speed up,

1298
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So the start of that

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Speaker 1: from where the suicide is where I was just talking about.

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Speaker 1: So there was a start of that which was, like

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Speaker 1: I said, ninety nine, you know what I mean, around

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Speaker 1: that time. And so when that was going on, all

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Speaker 1: this process and me not sharing what was happening and

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Speaker 1: holding all of that and dealing with that, that's what

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Speaker 1: led to that party. So in the beginning of that,

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Speaker 1: with me holding all those that information, then Mystery Man

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Speaker 1: came along, you know that show, and I remember I'm

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Speaker 1: out the Nickelodeon.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm all good.

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Speaker 1: And I remember the head writer who's Das Schneider, That's

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Speaker 1: what I was talking about, who was wrote on the

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Speaker 1: show at that time. He was also doing a a

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Speaker 1: movie I think believe it was a Liar Liar Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: with a matter with a matter, that lion of liar.

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Speaker 1: It was, Oh man, I'm trying to remember the name

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Speaker 1: of It wasn't Lion Liar, but it was a Mandabides

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be. It was in the movie, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it was about a kid, the lives and all

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Speaker 1: this stuff like that. But they wanted me to actually

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Speaker 1: be in that movie at first, you know, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, Yo, we should put Keenan in it.

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Speaker 2: That would be dope to pick Keenan in it.

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Speaker 1: And we both do that because we had a three

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Speaker 1: picture deal at Paramount when we were doing that, but

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Speaker 1: they decided that, you know, they didn't want they didn't

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Speaker 1: do the other movies. We just did Good Burger and

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Speaker 1: but but I was doing Mystery Man, so they were like, yo,

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Speaker 1: you should be on that and I was like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: but let's put keen in And they were like nah,

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Speaker 1: I think this is just be with you and I'm

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Speaker 1: like no, but I feel like, you know, we got

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Speaker 1: the show, let's do it. And also to the writers,

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Speaker 1: the same writer I had fallen out with, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, that's in the room and so I'm.

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Speaker 2: Just like, A right, you know what I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to do that.

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Speaker 1: And I remember I left out of the room. H

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Speaker 1: and you know, all these producers exciting about doing this movie.

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Speaker 1: And I remember I left out of that room in

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Speaker 1: that situation, and then I saw Keenan and then I

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01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: saw Nick and they were like, yeah, we heard about

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01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: that meeting. They just started laughing, And for me, I

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01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: was just I felt like, yo, y'all was in there

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01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: fighting for you, you know what I mean, And that

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01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: kind of hurt at that moment. Think about me was

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01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: that I didn't relationship is very important and you need

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01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: to let people know how you feel.

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Speaker 2: At that time, really wasn't doing that. There was a

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Speaker 2: trusting you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I had already been through death, you know, within my

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01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: family in Chicago, and all these things were going on

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01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: at this point.

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Speaker 2: Both of my uncles was murdered. I had a friend

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Speaker 2: that was murdered that we talked about.

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Speaker 1: All this happened around the same time, and so there

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Speaker 1: wasn't any no I wasn't seeing any therapist or anything

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01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: of that nature. I was just working constantly with working

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01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: on the show and within doing that. And then at

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Speaker 1: that time too, I ended up marrying my ex wife,

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Speaker 1: you know, because we had another baby. We had the baby, right,

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Speaker 1: we had the abortion, but then we had a baby

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Speaker 1: and she ended up telling me that the baby that

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Speaker 1: was aborted wasn't mine. And so within that process you

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Speaker 1: are immediately married within the lie already. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So the marriage was never the same after.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't no, it was this is this is at

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Speaker 1: the beginning. You know what I'm saying is that at

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Speaker 1: the beginning. And so within that.

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Speaker 3: Process you probably should have kept that to herself.

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Speaker 1: Well you know, I'm glad she didn't. And so within

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Speaker 1: that process, with that being known, it was just like, yo,

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Speaker 1: and now I'm on TV.

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Speaker 2: All this year. I'm still on TV all this thing. Man,

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Speaker 2: I don't have time to really process that.

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Speaker 1: And she almost, you know, with even in being you know,

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Speaker 1: the pregnancy, she almost died within the pregnancy.

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Speaker 2: So that was a hard time too.

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Speaker 1: And I remember the some of the writers coming to

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Speaker 1: this set, to the hospital and they were like bringing

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Speaker 1: presents and I'm thinking like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, cool, thank you, And then they were like, yo,

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01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 2: what can you be back on set?

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Speaker 3: And it was just low, yeah, see what I'm dealing with.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what I'm dealing with. But you know, no

1386
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: no shout out to you know, no no shade to them.

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Speaker 1: They were just they were doing what they were told

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01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: as far as the job to see if Kel can

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Speaker 1: get be back on set. And I was the one

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Speaker 1: that you know, ended up getting someone pregnant, you know,

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01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: around that time. But I'm just setting up so you

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01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: understand what was really going on when we get to

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four, you know what I mean, And

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01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: that in that process, so and now knowing that this

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Speaker 1: you know, the kid is in you know, his mind,

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01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: and then now leaving the show you know, on Nickelodeon,

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Speaker 1: and then I had Mister Man, this big show, and

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01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, oh, yeah, that's gonna be it, you

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01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And learning within that process too

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01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: where it was like, hey, well no, I don't want

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01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: to renew on all that ken nick Kel, I'm good,

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01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying. And I already know

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01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: what's going on as far as what's happening within this

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01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: realm of what's going on with the show behind the

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01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: scenes and what's going on with me, and I was

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01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: just like, yo, I'm ready to leave anyway. And then

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Speaker 1: Mystery Man didn't do as well as we thought, you

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01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean, as we thought it was gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Within that process, and then just navigating through that now

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Speaker 1: being a father. And here's the thing about it is

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Speaker 1: that the reason I didn't have anybody relate to because

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Speaker 1: I was the first one out of the entire cast

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Speaker 1: to be married, to have a house, you know, have kids,

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01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: and Keenan Nick, none of them could relate to that.

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01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: They were still being kids. And also too, there was

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01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: this process of I got it known again. I already

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01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, and that's what I was doing.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 2: To me, it was like, I gotta I can handle this.

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01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: I can handle this.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't tell you you can't handle this within the

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01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: start up because you're really going through something that is

1424
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: really deep and you need to let people know and

1425
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: let people know how you feel and let people know

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01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: what's on your heart, what's really going on. But I

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Speaker 1: kept it in. It was like I can handle this. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

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01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 3: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

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01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

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01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 3: simply go back to Club Shay profile and I'll see

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Speaker 3: you there.