WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Favorites to Win Division?

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<v Speaker 1>The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>on November sixteenth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode number sixty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. I am

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<v Speaker 1>live from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. I

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<v Speaker 1>got Nick and Dave and Amber and it's happy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy to be back with these guys. I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>him since last Monday. We did our show shuffle and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and so I'm interested to hear from these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>which we will do in just a second, what their

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<v Speaker 1>experience was without having me hosting their show. Hopefully it

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<v Speaker 1>was something that they missed and they're happy to be

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<v Speaker 1>back with me. We'll also talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Von Dick, because we did not get a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about his injury last week and what that

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<v Speaker 1>means for him and for the team. We'll talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about the NFC East, some interesting developments with

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<v Speaker 1>that division yesterday that might put the Cowboys closer to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe winning the division. I know Dave's gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>look for me right about now, and then we'll finally

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<v Speaker 1>have a segment at the end where Amber is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give us some questions. It's got a little game for us,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and some questions that we're going to roll

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<v Speaker 1>through in the maybe a little bit of the second segment.

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<v Speaker 1>How's everybody doing today? We're good, great, Dred good, good good,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump in. I actually did want to debrief a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. It was kind of funny because and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>save mine until the end, But as I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>the show last week in our shuffle, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah with me, and I had Barry Church with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had Kurt Daniels with me, there were moments

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<v Speaker 1>during those shows where I was like, y'all really think that,

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<v Speaker 1>And it makes you realize just how much we on

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<v Speaker 1>our show have our very solid opinions about certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>And we kind of started I know, for myself, I

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<v Speaker 1>started to think the whole world has those opinions until

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<v Speaker 1>I started interacting with other people from other shows and

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<v Speaker 1>realize that some of those just aren't what everybody thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna go around the table here, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want you guys, each one of you, to tell me

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that you learned last week on your show,

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<v Speaker 1>on whatever show you were on, that maybe you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really think was out there, that that some other people believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start first with you. Nick Well obviously learned the

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<v Speaker 1>way Nate Newton feels about moral victories and so and

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<v Speaker 1>he learned he learned how I feel about mine. And

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<v Speaker 1>it probably went on for a little bit too long.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, you know, I you know I had Kyle Yeoman,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, he's very prepared. You know, he does

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<v Speaker 1>a nice job, you know, a hosting of course, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know Nate, you know, it brings a perspective that

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<v Speaker 1>that was you know, it's we don't have obviously on

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<v Speaker 1>this show, just from a from being a player and

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<v Speaker 1>a really good player. So um, but you know I

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<v Speaker 1>had worked with those guys before it It was it

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<v Speaker 1>was good. I mean, uh, you know, we differed on

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<v Speaker 1>on some things on the quarterbacks and who who to play,

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<v Speaker 1>so that that wasn't unusual because we do that on

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<v Speaker 1>this show too. But uh, you know I didn't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what I learned that was different. I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought you know, it was it was different perspectives. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've never seen you Derek wear a referee

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<v Speaker 1>or you never had to do that, so Kyle busted

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<v Speaker 1>that out. But it was it was a good idea,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was fun to do hamper your up. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun too to get to tuning to those

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<v Speaker 1>other shows and watch you guys and see how you

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<v Speaker 1>guys behave around other people and other environments. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was fun. Um, But I wasn't on hanging with the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that show's Shannon Grows hosting it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty chill, like there was no drama or anything. The

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that I can think of that somehow we

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<v Speaker 1>ended up talking about Jason Garrett, and Shannon had the

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<v Speaker 1>audacity to say something that and we all we all

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<v Speaker 1>respect Jason Garrett, and I think we all see certain

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<v Speaker 1>values that he brings and certain things that he's really

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<v Speaker 1>really good at. But Shannon there to say that he

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated the fact of Jason Garrett, how he was so

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<v Speaker 1>consistent and how you knew what you were gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>with Jason Garrett, which was mainly part of his problem

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<v Speaker 1>and part of the reason why people were ready to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of him. So you know, Shannon, you never

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<v Speaker 1>really know when to take him seriously. But that comment,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, Okay, I was just shaking my head.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was the only thing that kind of stood

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<v Speaker 1>out that was maybe different from what most of us

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<v Speaker 1>think about Jason Garrett and his era here with the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I will say this too about you, ag.

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<v Speaker 1>I even texted you. You seem to be real agreeable

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<v Speaker 1>and really nice last week on Hanging with the Boys.

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<v Speaker 1>That was not what I'm familiar with. Nick actually hit

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<v Speaker 1>me up the same, the same thing, like you a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different person on that show than you than what

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<v Speaker 1>you ring over here. You know, when you're when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in somebody else's house, you gotta behave and you gotta nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's nally why I was so well behaved, and

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just, yeah, you're representing us well. I

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<v Speaker 1>like it all right, Dave, what do you learn last week?

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<v Speaker 1>I learned that structure can be a good thing because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, me and Nick like to poke fun at you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you send us an eight hundred word rundown every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes I think this show is a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>too structured. But I got a really good taste of

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite into that with Mickey and Bill Jones last week,

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<v Speaker 1>because we just kind of rolled the ball out there

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<v Speaker 1>and like, let's see what happens, and it went in

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty weird places. I think we talked about wife swapping,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about World War two, we talked about um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked a little bit about the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would not say it was like the dominant

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<v Speaker 1>topic of conversation. So I had a good time, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember being kind of blown away, like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is where your podcast can go if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really come at it with a game plan.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess so fun Well, I'll take that as a compliment, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll really take that as a compliment that you like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we have struggle. It is so and

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<v Speaker 1>at this time you point out that we're too structured,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just say, do you want to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>Mike shots? You have every option shots? All right? I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the interesting thing I found out last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know when they when they said it, I scoffed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I immediately thought, if they were on the break

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<v Speaker 1>right now with these with my other co hosts, like

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<v Speaker 1>you guys would have skewered them. But Isaiah and Barry

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<v Speaker 1>both believe, I mean wholeheartedly believe the Dallas Cowboys will

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<v Speaker 1>win the NFC East. And we took a little time

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this and they agree it's it's kool a,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're like, we're drinking it all in because they

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<v Speaker 1>believe that the Cowboys will win this division. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna actually tee that up for you guys a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later in this show, because there were some things

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<v Speaker 1>that happened yesterday in the NFC East that I know

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<v Speaker 1>both of them were sitting there looking like, hey, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go, you know, So we'll talk about that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later in the show. I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a bit of news that came out last

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<v Speaker 1>week that we didn't get a chance to go through together.

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<v Speaker 1>Treyvon Diggs reportedly out four to six weeks with a

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<v Speaker 1>broken foot. I think it's known he has a broken foot.

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<v Speaker 1>The reported part is the four to six weeks, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if that's if the organization has said

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<v Speaker 1>that he's gonna be out four to six weeks, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be out some time. Tito has was activated

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<v Speaker 1>last week from the reserved injured list. My first question

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys is how much does this hurt Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Von Diggs, assuming he's out four to six weeks, how

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<v Speaker 1>much hurt his development? Let's start with you Amber. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he hurts him. Obviously, you want him out there getting

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<v Speaker 1>those traps and everything. But at the same time, one

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<v Speaker 1>thing we've learned from watching him play is that he's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's gonna keep fighting. He's a guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be affected by the adversity, and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep pushing. So that's on the positive side. But it

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<v Speaker 1>always hurts a guy that's a rookie that we had

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<v Speaker 1>just seen the last few weeks how he has been

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<v Speaker 1>making plays. So it's very unfortunate for the Cowboys secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's gonna hurt his development, but I'm positive

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<v Speaker 1>that he's gonna be able to bounce back and be

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<v Speaker 1>just fine. Dave, Yeah, I just I mean, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>step out on a limb and say, and obviously I

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<v Speaker 1>could be wrong. I feel like we've probably seen the

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<v Speaker 1>last of on for the season. I mean, if that,

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<v Speaker 1>if that indication is right, you know you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not being ready to come back until Christmas, and

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<v Speaker 1>then at that point, do you risk further injury for

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<v Speaker 1>a promising rookie with you know, two weeks left in

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<v Speaker 1>the season, that which maybe they'll make a playoff push

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll be worth bringing him back, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>assume not. Um, So it just sucks because that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>seven weeks worth of reps that he could get that

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<v Speaker 1>would make him a better player for next year. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not super worried about the long term. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>was really impressed by what he was able to show

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<v Speaker 1>in a depleted secondary as a rookie, but it would

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<v Speaker 1>it would just be nice if he could have seven

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<v Speaker 1>weeks worth or reps to continue to improve. Nick. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he keeps saying four to six weeks, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the report was, but we haven't talked about this in

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<v Speaker 1>a while. It's almost three to five weeks at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>just because it has been a week or so, and

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<v Speaker 1>so if it is on the on the art short

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<v Speaker 1>end of this, then you know, I do think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he can come back and play um the last few games.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a it's a broken foot, if it's healed,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's healthy. You know, I think he could do

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<v Speaker 1>that in the last couple of games, depending on how

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<v Speaker 1>things are. But but I don't think it really hurts

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<v Speaker 1>his development. He's a guy we've seen he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible memory, which is exactly what you need as a cornerback.

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<v Speaker 1>So he know he needs to just step right in play.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's a gamer. Sometimes it works for the

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<v Speaker 1>other team. You know, he gives up some big places,

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<v Speaker 1>but he makes them. So I think if he can

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<v Speaker 1>come back the way that I are rules are now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if he can come back for a game

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<v Speaker 1>or two, even if that's the case, I would I

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<v Speaker 1>would do that. And I don't know, Dave. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if the if the broken foot coming back, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it would re injure it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if his healed is healed, so who knows. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he if he could play, I would play him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't necessarily disagree. It just makes me. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes me nervous. And I don't know that this is

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<v Speaker 1>the injury that Dez Bryant had, but that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>think of when I hear about broken bones and feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's a very you know, you need feet to

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<v Speaker 1>play football, especially footwork is everything for a defensive back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just worry, Yeah, if it's healed, it's healed,

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<v Speaker 1>but is in a situation where you can reaggravate it

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, if you're trying to make the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>do you come back when it's healed but not one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent right and you risk aggravating it. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I just I lean toward thinking it's smarter to shut

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<v Speaker 1>him down. But I also, I'm not a doctor. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the severity, but that's just the type of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff I think about when I hear this. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>flip to the guy that presumably will be jumping right

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<v Speaker 1>into the spot that he now vacates, Cheetobo Woozier. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have to make a decision right now on Cheeto

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<v Speaker 1>based upon what you know at this point, are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to sign him? Are you looking to resign him

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<v Speaker 1>in the offseason? Dave, that's really kind of unfair since

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<v Speaker 1>we got to see two games of tape out of him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he really hasn't had a season. The question

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<v Speaker 1>always comes down to price. I mean, if I could

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<v Speaker 1>resign Cheeto for a similar deal to what they got

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown for you know, five million a year or

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<v Speaker 1>something fairly small by starter standards, I'd probably do it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he is the free agent defensive back that I

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<v Speaker 1>would be most willing to resign. I'll say that. But

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody wants to offer him a boatload on the

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<v Speaker 1>open market, I'm okay. Nick, that's a tough one because

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to just say nah, no, you can go on,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you can just look at this season

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<v Speaker 1>and see, you know, and I don't know the severity

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<v Speaker 1>of the injury, but you know, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>quickly was trying to get back. I mean, again, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know much what's going on, but I know he

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<v Speaker 1>was out there for a long long time. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if the record played a part into that. However, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if the Cowboys are in a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>they can say, well, you know, just go on, we're

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<v Speaker 1>good because you're not good. You're not good at cornerbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>so you need as many guys. I think Dave's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he goes to free agency. I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he tests the market, he sees what's out there. It

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<v Speaker 1>might be a situation where you know, he does stay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just have a feeling he'll probably sign with

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<v Speaker 1>another team Hamber. I think it depends on the money.

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<v Speaker 1>If it makes sense. I would keep him because he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's the guy that is competitive and right now, when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the Cowboys cornerback, like, who do you

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<v Speaker 1>really have that you can think of him aside from

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Dicks, there's no other name that will just automatically

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<v Speaker 1>pop into your head and say, oh, yeah, that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you need to keep someone you know. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>just bring a bunch of new cornerbacks into the cornerback's room.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you talk about Jordan Lewis. That's another guy

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<v Speaker 1>who you just don't know either. And he has been

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<v Speaker 1>able to play this year, and yes he got an

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<v Speaker 1>injury and was out for a little while. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, I think that you have to choose

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<v Speaker 1>between one of those two guys. I would keep either

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan or Cheeto, But over those two, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would have to lean towards Cheeto more. I was really

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<v Speaker 1>excited about with Jordan Lewis this year. He's a I

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<v Speaker 1>love the guy. He's such a competitive guy and he

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<v Speaker 1>has shown so many great plays. But this year just

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't worked out and you just cannot manage to just

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<v Speaker 1>say bye to everyone in your cornerback room. Dave, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have to choose between the two, Ambert told

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<v Speaker 1>as she would go with Cheeto over Jordan. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>guys do the same thing, And assuming that you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay a little bit more for Cheeto, probably

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot, but a little bit more. And also

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<v Speaker 1>assuming the fact that right now Jordan's the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>goes into the slot. If you're gonna have Anthony Brown

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're gonna have Treymon Diggs, are you creating

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<v Speaker 1>a problem for yourself if you go with Cheeto. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as who's going to move into the slot, let's

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<v Speaker 1>start first with you, Nick, I'd go for the cheapest guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not spending a lot of money on

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<v Speaker 1>that on those guys at that position. I think in

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<v Speaker 1>free agency, if you're going to do anything in free

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<v Speaker 1>agency this year, I think you've got to see if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a veteran cornerback that's out there that you can

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<v Speaker 1>that you can do something with. So that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably would lean towards Jordan. I think he'd be cheaper,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you, said Derek. It's a good point, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>having a slot guy, but I've been disappointed with him too.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of thought he would make a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more plays. He's got a lot of few penalties this year.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't you know that that's really been the only

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<v Speaker 1>significant things. I haven't seen him make any any plays. Hey, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get what y'all are saying. And nickel

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<v Speaker 1>back slot cornerback is a super important position. But like

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<v Speaker 1>you can find those guys all over the place. Orlando

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<v Speaker 1>Scandrick was pretty good at it for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifth round pick. More often than not, teams find those

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<v Speaker 1>guys on Day three of the draft. And on top

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<v Speaker 1>of that, Anthony Brown can play slot as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>would resign Cheeto because I have proof he might not

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<v Speaker 1>be amazing at it, but I have proof that Cheeto

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<v Speaker 1>can line up on the outside and cover a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, out on the numbers. And not having Byron

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<v Speaker 1>Jones has emphasized just how important that is to a defense.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked to me and Nick talked about it earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. I don't know that Byron. You know, Byron's

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<v Speaker 1>not having this crazy, amazing season in Miami, But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a coincidence that the Dolphins spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money on him and Xavian Howard and their

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<v Speaker 1>defense is pretty nasty. I'm gonna guess that good coverage

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<v Speaker 1>is a big part of that. So give me the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that can cover somebody out on the boundary. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not you know, Cheeto's not Byron Jones, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>who I'd rather have at this point. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>remember though, it Derek, you got to remember this that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a two way street. I mean, these guys may

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<v Speaker 1>not want to sign here. I mean they may they

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<v Speaker 1>want to go another place, and so, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we say I would sign him, and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>was the question. But I again, without talking to either

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, I have a feeling that they'll both

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<v Speaker 1>be out peace, I mean, when they get a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just don't get the sense that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>even want to resign. Yeah, it's interesting yesterday watching the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw a lot of former Cowboys. But it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good plays yesterday, and it's you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you can blame that really on anybody. Maybe they're using

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<v Speaker 1>them a different way in other places. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>really a big thing with Jeff Heath. I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>using him exactly as he's supposed to be used. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be your starter, your main guy. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think if you're coming in and bringing him

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<v Speaker 1>in on special situations and kind of having him in

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<v Speaker 1>a rotation, I think he plays best there. And we

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<v Speaker 1>know from the time he was here he can make

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<v Speaker 1>some plays every once in a while, like we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>him make plays here with the Cowboys, some big plays.

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<v Speaker 1>I always remember back to that that game against the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>that was huge play. You know, he's made some plays

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<v Speaker 1>for them. But all that being said, you're right, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I'm sorry, David, you just don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm sorry Nick, you said that, if those guys

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<v Speaker 1>will even want to be here, if they end up

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<v Speaker 1>at the Star talking Cowboys, and we're gonna jump in

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<v Speaker 1>and talk a little bit about the NFC East. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>these teams are separated by a game and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is you got Philly at three to

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<v Speaker 1>five and one, You've got New York at three and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Washington at two and seven, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>got the Cowboys at two and seven. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that have been talking about this whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>of tanking and trying to get the best pick you

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<v Speaker 1>can get. I heard somebody bring up an interesting point

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<v Speaker 1>though this morning that I wanted to toss to you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at a team like New York where they

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<v Speaker 1>have a new coach and whole new regime, and for

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<v Speaker 1>them it might be just as important to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to establish a culture of winning as it is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get a high draft pick. My question for you

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<v Speaker 1>guys is the same. You have a situation here where

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<v Speaker 1>you got a brand new coaching staff. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get guys to buy into what they're doing. How important

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<v Speaker 1>is it at this point or what is more important

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get that higher draft pick. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying they're going to try to get that higher draft pick,

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<v Speaker 1>but getting that higher draft pick or them establishing themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>this new coaching staff, establishing themselves and establishing the culture

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<v Speaker 1>of this team by winning. Let's start first with you, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about we're talking about the Cows, talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. Correct, Yes, I don't worry about the whole

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<v Speaker 1>culture thing like the Giants. The Giants, I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a little different. Joe Judge is the first time head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the pieces on that team that you're relying

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<v Speaker 1>on have never done it. You know, Daniel Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a young player, he's never been in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I know se Quon's hurt, but the same thing for him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're young defensive players, Like, you're not building

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<v Speaker 1>around a team that has ever succeeded, whereas and I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I can hear people saying the Cowboys haven't

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<v Speaker 1>achieved anything really either, but it is different. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Dak is in year five. Dak has been through the wars,

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<v Speaker 1>He's been in the playoffs multiple times. Really, all of

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<v Speaker 1>the important pieces on this team have been to the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs multiple times, like they know what it means to

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<v Speaker 1>be part of a successful team. Mike McCarthy has obviously

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<v Speaker 1>won a Super Bowl, so this is not a team

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<v Speaker 1>that is unfamiliar with that feeling. So I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really worry about that much as being able to

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<v Speaker 1>improve the roster so that these good players can do

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<v Speaker 1>that again in the future. Amber, That's a really tough question.

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.640
<v Speaker 1>And for me, it depends one day of the week

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:17.879
<v Speaker 1>you're asking me this, because during the weekdays, I'm thinking

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 1>about the draft, and I'm thinking, Okay, yes, you know what,

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:24.200
<v Speaker 1>let's just get that high draft pick and make some

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:28.160
<v Speaker 1>better draft choices this upcoming year. But then you ask

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>me on game day, am I screw the draft? You know?

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I want them to play good football. I want them

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to win this freaking game, go out there and make

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:41.880
<v Speaker 1>it exciting. So to me right now, even though I

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:45.199
<v Speaker 1>get everything that Da've just said and I kind of agree,

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, this is a whole new team,

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of young guys. I need to have the

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 1>feeling that they do get that establishing the winning culture

0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that they can actually win a game

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 1>with this coaching put together. Because even if you talk

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 1>about draft high picks next year, what's gonna make me

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:10.200
<v Speaker 1>have hope that this team can actually utilize that talent

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that they just brought in. So right now, for me,

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.639
<v Speaker 1>it's like, yes, I want the good draft and whatever,

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, I need to see some

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 1>excitement this year the second half of the season. I

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>need to feel like this team can actually put together

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.360
<v Speaker 1>a winning game and win some games out there, because,

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 1>like I said, what's good. What's it gonna do bringing

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 1>some great talent if the coaching staff can't put it together.

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 1>So I guess I'm kind of in both sides, but

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I would lean towards winning culture a little bit more. Nick.

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just don't I think what when we

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about this, we're talking about from a fans perspective,

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.639
<v Speaker 1>media perspective. We're talking, we're talking about like what we

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:01.439
<v Speaker 1>would prefer to see, because you're really talking about the team,

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 1>like they're gonna go play and win and try to

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>win games. I mean, so it's like, I think we

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>look at it and go, how do I want to

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>watch them win? Or do I want to just have

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>a good draft pick. But and that sounds good because

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>when you're watching it, you can make that choice. But

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 1>as a team, you just play. You just play the game.

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>You just say we're gonna go out and we're gonna

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>play the guys that are healthy, and we're gonna go

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>out there and play. Because think of it like this,

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.200
<v Speaker 1>like what if they go too and fourteen, and then

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>next year they go eight and eight, what's and Mike

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy's on the hot seat, what's his record going to be?

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're just gonna be He's gonna say they

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>have ten wins, right, ten wins and twenty two losses. Well,

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>no one's gonna go back and go, well, hey, they

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>really were just tanking. That really doesn't count. No, that

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>two and fourteen is gonna stick on his record. He's

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>not trying to tank games. He's gonna try to go

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>win games. So I think you win games, you do

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:56.439
<v Speaker 1>the best you can do. And then if you like

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Jerry always says, if you get a high draft pick,

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 1>you earned it and you take it, but you don't

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 1>go play for it. Yeah, and just just bealy. This

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 1>is about fans and media. This is not about the

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 1>team because the expectation is professionals are always going to

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>be trying to win. So as what your opinion, Nick,

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 1>as a person that's a bystander that covers this team,

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and let's assume you want this team to do well,

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 1>which do you think is more important? Yeah? I think

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I like Amber said, I'd go try to win the game.

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's important because I think this roster

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>is a good roster when everybody's healthy. If you get

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 1>the fifth, if you get the eighteenth pick in the draft,

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that if that's what happens, if you sneak into the playoffs,

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I think you're automatically an eighteen. If you get that,

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you know you could get a Layton Vanderish type of player.

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>For a roster. I still think that that helps. Is

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 1>it better than a six, five or a third pick? No,

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 1>of course not but once you've established along the way

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>to get there, the confidence of that staff, the trust

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>they need some trust to. The players need to be

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>able to trust the coaches. Coaches trust the players. That

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 1>is not developed right now, and I think that is

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.120
<v Speaker 1>really important for them to do that. Looking at how

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.879
<v Speaker 1>this division is playing out right now, again only separated

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 1>by a game and a half, who do you think

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 1>wins this division? Let's start with you, Amber. I hate

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>this question so bad. I hate it. I hate it.

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this is so tough. You know. Regardless

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>of all the pain that the Cowboys have put me through,

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>in the back of my heart down there, I still

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>feel that somehow they're gonna magically start winning games and

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>piece some things together to get to the point of

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>them winning the division. But based on everything that we've seen,

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to have that kind of hope. So if

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I had to choose someone that wins the division, I

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 1>am in no way choosing the Eagles. I think that

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the Giants have started putting some things together to where

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>I've seen, even when they lose games, I've seen little

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:03.360
<v Speaker 1>sparks here and there of things that cost it catches

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>my attention and leads me to think that, Okay, maybe

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>they can be a little more successful than what we're

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>actually seeing on these games. So maybe right now, I

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>hate this question, Derek, don't maybe answer this. This is dumb.

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to answer it. I don't want to

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 1>answer it. But I just don't know. I just don't know.

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 1>It's up for grabs for any one. The only one

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>that I keep down at the bottom would be Washington.

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 1>But I think that anyone in this division can seriously

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 1>take up the lead and win the NFC East. Nick,

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 1>don't make me answer this question, Derek, I don't like

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>this question now. I think the Giants actually are in

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty good shape, if there is such a thing at

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 1>three and seven, just because they are three and two

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>in the NFC East and their two losses are to

0:28:58.040 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles in the game that they should have won,

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and probably in a game against the Cowboys where I'm

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>sure they feel like they should have won. Um, I

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. I think, you know, the Dak getting

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>hurt changed everything, But but you know, they could easily

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>be five and five right now with a five and

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and o record in the division. So I think that

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>they have as good a chance as anyone but I

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>could see any of the team's really sneaking in here.

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the only the reason I don't say Philly

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>is that they're The next five or six games are

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>very tough m on the schedule, So the Cowboys I

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>think might have the best schedule of the group. Yep, Dave,

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll answer the question, Derek, I'm not afraid, and I'll

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll piss everybody off in the process to know, I

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what you're gonna say. What am I gonna say?

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna say the Eagles because they have the best quarterback.

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not like you can't you can't defend. Listen, I've

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>been I've been bending over backward to make way for

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Carson Wentz, to give him the benefit of the doubt,

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's it just ain't happening at this point. The

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Eagles are our trash. And Nick makes a very good point.

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>They've still gotta They've got to play Green Bay, They've

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>got to play New Orleans. I think they still have

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Seattle on their schedule. They no the thing I was

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:15.479
<v Speaker 1>going to say, the Cowboys have the best chance to

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>win this division right now. Absolutely they do. And I'm

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>saying that knowing that it is insane because you know,

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been sitting here for a month and a half saying, yeah,

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I know the East is bad, but these things have

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a way of taking care of themselves. The winner of

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>this division's gonna wind up with eight or nine wins.

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>That's not happening. That is that is not going to

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 1>happen when you look at what these teams still have left,

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and everybody talks about the Giants. Oh, the Giants are

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of putting it together. Do you realize why that is?

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>It's because they've got They've gotten to play the NFC

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>East in back to back weeks. They got they got

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to win against Washington and awful Philadelphia. They've played five

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>of their six division games. They played the Cowboys to

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>end the season, so they're they're done. They don't have

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>any more lay up games against bad division teams. The

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Giants still have to play Cleveland, Baltimore, Arizona, and Seattle.

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I believe have fun. Yeah, yeah, I think they get

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>They get Cincinnati this week, so you know, maybe that's

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a chance for them to get one more win, but

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be tough sledding for them the rest of

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the way. Meanwhile, Dallas has three division games. If you go,

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you win those three games all of

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, so that gets you to five and seven,

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I believe, and then maybe you just gotta you just gotta.

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>You got Cincinnati and you have the forty nine ers,

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>who are even more banged up than the Cowboys are.

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>All they gotta do is like play below five hundred football.

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, if they go three and four, if they

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>go three and four, or definitely if they go four

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and three, that's probably good enough. So if you're if

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you're making me pick right now, I might have to

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 1>go with the Cowboys. And I hate, I hate saying it,

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>but it makes sense. That is exactly the quota of

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>what it debate you in two day right there. That's

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>exactly what do you want me to say? No, no, no,

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's but it's actually true. And that the reason

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>why I brought up the question is because I laughed

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>in the faces of Isaiah and Barry last week when

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 1>they were talking about it. I'm like, there's no way.

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>And then I started looking at the schedule and I

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh wow, if things happened like they're supposed

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>to happen, this weekend, which they did, this thing gets

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>really really interesting for the Cowboys all the way out.

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.479
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I think, I think I can

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>speak for all of us, you guys correct me if

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong, But over the last two weeks, we've seen

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a Cowboys team play markedly better than they've played before that.

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And so maybe if this defense is starting to get

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit better, and maybe if this offense can

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>find just a shred of what it was earlier in

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the season. Now, of course that was with Dak Prescott,

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 1>but if they can get to that, and then then

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you look at the schedule and you say there are

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>teams that are beatable on this schedule, this could get

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>really interesting for the Cowboys down the stretch and certainly

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>hurt the hope of the feelings of all those fans

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>out there that are hoping this team stays up there

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>in the top five as far as NFL draft picks go.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna take our final break. When we

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>come back, we're gonna have a little fun with Amber.

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Amber has some some questions for us, maybe a game

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>or two, I don't know. We'll figure it all out

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<v Speaker 1>at the Star. This final segment will be Amber segment,

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 1>she has something for us Amber take it away. I'm

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>pulling one from Shannon's and Shannon's book and just making

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it up as we go here anymore. In the first question, um,

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>we know this has been a crazy season, So I

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you, guys, what what was a moment

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>a specific moment that happened during the season. Could be

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>a play, could be an injury, could be a decision

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>that the coaching made, or anything like that that you

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>were like, oh crap, this is bad. This is not

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>looking good, and something aside from Dak's injury, because we

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>know how major that was. But at the same time,

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.479
<v Speaker 1>I think we we all thought that Andy Dalton could

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.479
<v Speaker 1>still take over and help the Cowboys win some games.

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>So if you had to pick a moment that you

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 1>saw happening and that made you think, men, this is

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>really bad for the Cowboys, what would that be? I

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 1>think I'll start. I think Cleveland. The Cleveland game. At

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>that point, you know you're one in two and you

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>think we're maybe you can get right and beat Cleveland

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>at home. The way they just ran over the team.

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.959
<v Speaker 1>You know, Dak was still there and healthy, and even

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Tyring was playing that game, and the Browns just just

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>even lost. They're starting running back and just couldn't stop

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>running the football. And I just thought that was a

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 1>sign of this is this is not good because I

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>don't think the Browns are that great of a team,

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and they showed it a few weeks later against Pittsburgh.

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>So losing the way they did against the Browns and

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, just kind of letting Odell run all over

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>them like that, and and the team, I just thought

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 1>that was when it's like, Okay, this maybe this is

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 1>a bad football team. I think that's uh. I think

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>that's the right answer, just in terms of like the

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>play that we've seen on the field. But other than that,

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, with Mike McCarthy, tried so hard

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to keep everything close to the vest all through training camp,

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and I think up until like a week or so

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:58.240
<v Speaker 1>before the season, like I've still felt optimistic that Lyle

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Collins would be available at some point during the season,

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 1>and so like week to the combination of him going

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 1>on IR and then Tyron dealing with injuries literally one

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>week end of the season, like right like when you

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 1>first started to realize like, oh, they're not gonna have

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 1>either of their tackles for a solid chunk of this season.

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I think even when Dak was healthy and everything, You're

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>just like, they're gonna be hard pressed to win as

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>many games as I thought they would with those those

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 1>types of injuries. Yeah, Dave, it's interesting because I was

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna say it's it's those two things started to make

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>me feel a little weird. It wasn't until I heard

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.320
<v Speaker 1>that Tyrone was out for the season that I was like, Okay,

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the wheels are falling off this thing. Because when you

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>think about it from the standpoint of how this team

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 1>was built, this offense was built around an offensive line.

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Whether you're throwing the ball or running the ball, it's

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>built around the offensive line. And at that moment, three

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of your top four offensive linemen were now gone. You

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>lost Travis Frederick because he retired, and Lyle Collins was

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 1>gone before the season began. And then once they made

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>figure out that Tyrone was going to be lost for

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the entire season or for the rest of the season,

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>then to me, it was like, I just don't see

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>a scenario where with what you're gonna have to patch

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 1>work together on the offensive line, they'll be able to

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 1>do the things that give them success. I thought Dak

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 1>would keep them in games, but once Dak went down

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and obviously then it was just completely like I just

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>don't have any any faith that what they like to

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>do is going to be good enough. And quite frankly,

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>teams like that that are having those kinds of struggles offensively,

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>if you can rely on your defense, or if your

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 1>defense can step up a notch and play some really

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>outstanding football, it gives you a chance. But they were

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>also having issues on the defensive side of the ball,

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>like major issues, and so once Tyrone was gone for

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the season, that's when I realized that it was really, really,

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>they were really in a bad position. Now let's switch

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the question to something positive. What was something that a

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 1>moment or a player coming back or anything that happened

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>during the season that made you feel a little hope,

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>a sign of hope for the Cowboys this year. I

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:10.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know about hope. But like, as dumb as it

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>sounds in retrospect, I mean, the Atlanta game will stick

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>with me forever. Just I mean, I know Atlanta's bad

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and the season is bad, but that was just an

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>absolutely ridiculous game. Um, you know, that's the classic case

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of the game where like we were all starting on

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>our stories in the third quarter because it was so

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>obvious that the game was over and then all of

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>a sudden it wasn't. And yeah, it didn't wind up

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>meaning anything, I guess, but it was still really fun,

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 1>Like that was just a really fun football game. Yeah,

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>that was exactly my answer. I was just gonna say

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that that's a hope for the season, I mean for

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.959
<v Speaker 1>the team and maybe next year. I mean I I'd

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>look at it like hope for this year. Maybe I

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that what the question actually it was,

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>but I'll take it from recently. I think Layton vander

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>esh blitzing up the metal and hitting Carson Wentz like

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 1>that showed, you know, the type of play that we've

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>been kind of waiting for from him and hopefully he

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>can come back. And and it was that kind of game,

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 1>that kind of play against Philly. That's like I thought

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Philly would be the team you'd have to beat to

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:24.760
<v Speaker 1>win this division, and that still might be the case,

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 1>but I think that they can play with Philly. They

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.879
<v Speaker 1>were very handicapped on a quarterback there they get any

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of better play at quarterback, and I think they will.

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I think they could beat Philly or any team. So

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 1>just that kind of play from Layton show individually and

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>then also as the team and an aggressive defense actually

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>getting a turnover, like a real turnover. I thought that

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 1>was some kind of hope. They didn't win the game,

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.399
<v Speaker 1>but I think that they showed that they can they

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>can compete in this division if they want to win it. Yeah.

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say I actually agree with Dave on

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.879
<v Speaker 1>the on the Atlanta game because at the time when

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 1>it happened, I looked at that and say, like, those

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 1>are the kind of moments at some times you see

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>these really really great seasons that teams have. They get

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 1>sparked by this moment that was very improbable, and then

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 1>they kind of get on this run. So I was

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 1>looking at it like, Okay, maybe now is when this

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 1>offense is going to really start to click. Maybe now

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 1>is when this defense will start to play better and

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 1>they'll get on a run. Obviously we know the next

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.919
<v Speaker 1>week they did not, but that that was the moment,

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>hold on, hold on, Ellen. If that's the moment y'all

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:29.319
<v Speaker 1>have hope? Are y'all saying at this point now that

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.959
<v Speaker 1>you know are you're saying you have absolutely no hope

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.399
<v Speaker 1>for this team. This team is hopeless. Yeah, because if

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that was the moment they gave you hope and then

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:39.359
<v Speaker 1>it didn't do all those things you were hoping to do,

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 1>so that means, yeah, they're hopeless. Yeah. The only hope

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:43.799
<v Speaker 1>they got right now is that the rest of the

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:45.879
<v Speaker 1>division will be so bad that they will squeak into

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs and then they will get a prompt exit

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>in the first round. I don't think they have the players.

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they have the players to be able

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to completely compete with those playoff teams in the NFL.

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Right in the NFC. I think that maybe they can

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.479
<v Speaker 1>win the NFC. E's just because the things we talked about.

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I just don't think they have the players right now

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of their great players are not available

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to them. But I will throw out one other thing

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 1>that I think, and these have been random moments throughout

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the season that you combine them all together should give

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>fans some hope. Is you look at this last draft

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and there have been four players from that draft that

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>at different moments this year you thought, huh, this guy's

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 1>playing pretty well as a rookie you look at Ceedee Lamb,

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 1>you look at Treyvon Diggs, you look at Neville Gallimore.

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Even be honest, I just saw an article that said

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 1>that he's ranked among one of the best rookies by

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Focus. They do like a mid season all

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>pro team, and he was on the all Rookie team

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 1>as a you know, one of their designated players. And

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 1>so I look at that, and that gives me some

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 1>hope for the future that at least you look at

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>this draft class and you say, there are flashes coming

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 1>from this draft class that if they keep developing these guys,

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>they're not there yet. But if you keep developing these guys,

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 1>you might have hit on at least four of the

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 1>players that you had in the draft that might turn

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:02.399
<v Speaker 1>out to be pretty good players for you down the road. Now,

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>imagine if you get to add like four or more

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 1>of those guys who were all taken at the top

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>of their respective rounds, right you know, right then you

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 1>then you're working with something, especially if they're on the

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:16.359
<v Speaker 1>defensive side of the ball, which I think Nick made

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a really good point earlier in the show, which is like,

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:22.959
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not my job or my responsibility to care

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:24.839
<v Speaker 1>where they go from here, Like, if they don't win

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.439
<v Speaker 1>another game, I'll cover the whole thing. If they win

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 1>the division, I'll cover the whole thing. Like that's I

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have to have a preference. But I understand the

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 1>appeal of people who are looking towards the draft, Like

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I understand it absolutely. It'll be interesting to see which

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 1>way it goes. Yeah, I understand it too. I definitely

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>understand it, and it sounds you know, way better. But

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think you have to play it out

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 1>and see because, as you know, part of trying to

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 1>develop those young guys and develop a culture and all

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:56.439
<v Speaker 1>that is going out and try to win the game,

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, and win. I could see where the argument

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 1>would be about Eric Gilbert and Andy Dalton though it's like, well,

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 1>why don't you try to play Gilbert because he might

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 1>be a better future guy for you for our backup

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 1>than Andy Dalton. But I think if this divisions for

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the take, and I think you owe it to everybody,

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>your veterans, your young guys, you owe it's everyone to

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>try to go out and win. Yeah, and I will

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>say this to Nick. I mean, we had a whole

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>different opinion of Jason Garrett when he came in as

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>an interim and he got this team five wins down

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the stretch. They went five and three down the stretch.

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:31.839
<v Speaker 1>That tells you a lot about a coach in the situation.

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.359
<v Speaker 1>And I would assume I wasn't in the locker room,

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:36.720
<v Speaker 1>but I would assume those players had a little different

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>perspective of him as well. Whatever the perspective was before,

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>they probably respected him in a little different way to

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>get their team into a position to be able to

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>take a team that was one and seven to be

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>in five and three down the stretch. I think that

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 1>has a way of building the right kind of culture

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>and getting players to buy into the fact that this

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 1>guy knows what he's doing. If we can trust him,

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:58.839
<v Speaker 1>we might be able to do some good things. It

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 1>was so ironic because that's what happened when they needed

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:05.240
<v Speaker 1>a new voice from Wade Phillips. It just wasn't working,

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and Garrett came in and gave them a spark, a

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 1>new voice. And then the ironic part is ten years later,

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 1>you know they're doing okay average, but this team just

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<v Speaker 1>needed a new voice, and so they decided to go

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<v Speaker 1>and make a change. But right now that voice isn't

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<v Speaker 1>isn't helping them. I mean, Mike McCarthy and the staff

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<v Speaker 1>that they're they're not all the experience and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>This team isn't help now that they're getting a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of injuries and all that. It's hard to really say

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<v Speaker 1>what McCarthy's doing. But but this new voice hasn't certainly

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't turned the page, and the Cowboys are better because

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<v Speaker 1>of it, not yet at least, So that's a rap.

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<v Speaker 1>What we're gonna do is those other questions that you

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<v Speaker 1>had Amber saved those, We'll get into those times. A Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a bunch of questions that fans send in

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll save them for the week, maybe once every

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<v Speaker 1>day because you always say, oh, we'll have time for

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<v Speaker 1>paying questions and then we never do. But that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll keep them in the can. Let me just tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this, it's been over a week since our last game.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have plenty of time time for fan questions Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We will have plenty of time unless Mike McCarthy breaks

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<v Speaker 1>some really really outstanding news this afternoon in his press conference.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna have a lot of time for

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<v Speaker 1>fan questions. Tomorrow. All right, we appreciate you guys, Joan Us.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back tomorrow. Till then for Nick Even Eatman,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been

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