WEBVTT - Lindsey Jacobellis 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.440 I didn't have a chance to meet you the other night, 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.000 and I saw you walk into the event and I 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:07.440 was like, oh, gosh, I don't know many people here, 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:12.240 but I'll go over and introduce myself. Wish you had. 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.200 And I got stuck in a conversation. I saw you 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:17.840 got second a conversation, and then as soon as I finished, 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:19.800 I looked over. I was like, she's gone, durn it, 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.640 dang it, we're talking about post Academy Awards parties. Did 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:28.000 you have a great time? I did. It's definitely not 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.720 my world, so I definitely just had to be super outgoing, 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:32.800 and I like the challenge. I mean, I don't know 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.960 who like is of that world, because the whole thing 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.640 is just us as humanity, Like we're all pretending. I 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.600 sure wish we've seen each other to say hello, because 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.360 it really is. It's like that is just what that 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.159 party is. Running into interesting people and having an excuse 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:47.920 to have a conversation. That's how I look at it. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.360 I go up to people I would never go up to, 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.920 and I'm always in workout clothes and snowboard clothes. It's 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:59.560 nice to get dressed up. Hello, I'm Mini driver. Welcome 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:04.240 to the Questions Season two. I've always loved Cruce's questionnaire. 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:08.840 It was originally a nineteenth century parlor game where players 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.240 would ask each other thirty five questions aimed at revealing 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:16.639 the other player's true nature. It's just the scientific method, really. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.120 In asking different people the same set of questions, you 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.479 can make observations about which truths appeared to be universal. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.360 I love this discipline, and it made me wonder, what 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.160 if these questions were just the jumping off point, what 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.640 greater depths would be revealed if I asked these questions 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:38.080 as conversation starters with thought leaders and trailblazers across all 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.679 these different disciplines. So I adapted Prue's questionnaire and I 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.400 wrote my own seven questions that I personally think a 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.680 pertinent to a person's story. They are when and where 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.520 were you happiest? What is the quality you like least 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:55.040 about yourself? What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love for you? 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:59.160 What question would you most like answered, What person, place, 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.200 or experience has shaped you the most? What would be 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.840 your last meal? And can you tell me something in 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.520 your life that's grown out of a personal disaster? And 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:13.000 I've gathered a group of really remarkable people, ones that 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.600 I am honored and humbled to have had the chance 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.200 to engage with. You may not hear their answers to 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.600 all seven of these questions. We've whittled it down to 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:26.040 which questions felt closest to their experience, or the most surprising, 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:31.280 or created the most fertile ground to connect. My guest 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:37.040 today on many questions is the extraordinary Olympian Lindsay Jacobellis. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.040 Lindsay is the most decorated female snowboard cross athlete of 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.320 all time. She's dominated the sport for almost two decades 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.240 as a five time World champion and ten times X 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.720 Games champion. In two thousands six, she debuted at the 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.400 Winter Olympics and she won the silver, but it would 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:57.880 take sixteen years until she would finally and triumphantly win 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:02.160 the gold medal for snowboard cross this year's Winter Olympics. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:11.440 So what relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love for you? 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.360 This took me a bit, but I was thinking Goldie 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.160 Han and Kurt Russell. I feel like they've been together 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.559 for so long, and they've been working within the industry. 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.560 They've worked together, and when I'm looking for someone that 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.480 I want to spend the rest of my life with 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.560 I want to be able to grow with that person, 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.880 not just as an individual with that person, and I 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.960 feel that they've done that. I'm also huge fans of that. Yeah, 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.680 I know that's pretty awesome. Do you think that is 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.040 then the kind of corner stone of your idea of 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:47.000 love is being able to evolve with someone? Absolutely? I 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.440 really want to always be improving myself, and you can 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.160 easily look at me as an athlete. I'm always trying 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.840 to get better faster. On course, I want that to 0:03:55.920 --> 0:04:00.600 translate over to me in my being learning about me 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.080 and being the best version of myself and having somebody 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:09.320 else find great qualities in myself as well as just 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.480 learning where we can go together as a couple. Do 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.600 you think it's longevity as well? I mean, I don't 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.159 know if your parents are still married or if that 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.960 was like reflected in your life, Like the idea of 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.440 being together when you're young and like making that journey 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.800 all the way through to hopefully old age. Is that 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.080 something that you again, like that is important to you, 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.240 that the idea that it could span a whole bunch 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.880 of different realities. I think that isn't very important. And 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.840 I do look at my parents as you know, starting 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.520 point in that, because you grow so much in your 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.000 twenties and your thirties and your forties, and so I 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.520 would imagine it would be very challenging to be growing 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.360 with people as they change. But my parents have now 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.800 been together for I want to say, forty five years, 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:59.440 so I've definitely seen their challenges, their setbacks, but their triumphs, 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.080 and and you know how they still are with each other, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.719 and it's really nice to go back home and visit 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.200 them and connect with the whole family. I like that. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.920 That's kind of grandmother into you. It's like that idea. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.480 And then you can see that reflected in Goldie Horn 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.880 and Kurt Russell because I feel exactly the same way, 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.719 except my parents weren't together, but I still want to 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.440 be like Goldie Horn and Kurt Russell, which means they transcend, 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.919 you know, any kind of division. I think they represent 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.720 something really cool too. You're right in their movies as well, 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:33.679 particularly Overboard right. That is my favorite one, actually mine too. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.560 I mean Goldie Horn in Anything but Yeah, she was 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.080 amazing that one. My mom and I always quote that 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.720 one whenever one of us is either in the kitchen 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:44.719 or we just see that they're kind of like stuck 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.719 in a rhythm or not paying attention. We'll just throw 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.560 out a quote so then we immediately get a smile 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:54.920 on each other's face. So she was extraordinarily funny, like 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.039 her comedic timing from everything. There's a movie that she 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.640 made called The Duchess in the Dirt Water Fox with 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.360 George Siegel. That was my father's favorite film, and it's 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.279 one of my all time favorite films. I strongly suggest 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.840 that you give it a watch. Okay, can't wait. I'm 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.520 constantly recommending it to people. It's really funny. It might 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.240 just because my dad loved it that I love it, 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:20.560 but it's not. It's because she's really funny. Where and 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.400 when were you happiest? I would say it comes in 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:27.679 this cycle. After a season of constantly being on the road. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:31.640 You're tired, you've been drained from competition and travel, you've 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.440 been winning gold medals at the Olympics. It's the best 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.280 to just finally come home and be in my hometown, 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.800 but then go down to the beach, have my dog 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:45.000 and just soak up the sun and reset. And I 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.880 could do that for like a few weeks, and then 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.280 it energizes me to get back into my training programs 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.440 and gets me fired up again. Yeah, I think it's true. 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.960 It's like after you've really pushed yourself home just is 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.839 ten times sweet. Oh yeah, And how long do you 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.920 get to do that full? Um? Well, it varies. And 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.719 the last two years have definitely been very different with 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.840 our travel schedule because our team was staying in tighter 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.680 little travel bubbles, so we weren't really interacting with our 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.520 entire team just in case somebody got sick. It would 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.920 only shut down our little immediate bubble instead of taking 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.600 down maybe the whole team and letting everyone not be 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.320 able to compete. And it was just a little stressful 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.480 to be traveling back and forth so often because it 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.720 did increase your risk of exposure. So we would stay 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.840 in Europe for longer cycles of time, even in between events, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.240 because then we could really hone ourselves in. So the 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.480 last couple of years, I went six months without actually 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.200 being back home in my place in California. If I 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.160 had time, I'd go to my parents house on the 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.360 East Coast, just because I hadn't seen them in such 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.480 a long time, and I'd have a good way to 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:00.600 isolate in their basement to make sure I wasn't bringing 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.920 any germs back to them, and then I could integrate 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.640 myself into the family right before I had to leave again. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.720 Do you think that because of what you do, because 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.440 you compete at such a high level and there's clearly 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:18.440 more stress than I think a regular human being could consider. Also, 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.600 it's quite dangerous what you're doing. Do you think that 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.880 the pressure ization that happiness is so much tied into 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.360 all of that stuff being released, and that it's being 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.280 released from the sort of high octane nature of what 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.240 you do. I think you have a lot of that 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.040 really dialed in what you said, because there is so 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.040 much intensity, there is so much time and pressure and 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.079 work that goes into it. Having that time to really 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.360 relax and decompress, even if it's for a couple of days, 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.840 really just helps mentally set everything back. I'm sure you 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.240 can agree. Any time that you're on set and you're 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.680 doing a string of hours or weeks to get something 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.679 finalized to get home, you're just like, Okay, all right, 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:01.760 I have to and you see the list of everything 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.520 you have to do next week, and you're like, Okay, 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.920 I'll look at that tomorrow. I just need to shut down. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.120 And it's the same thing. It's your body and your 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.280 mind are running on such a high level it's not 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.480 sustainable for long periods of time. So you have to 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.400 give yourself that. And that could translate over really to 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:23.040 anything and anyone that's really focusing on something at a 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:27.120 high intensity. It has to be released after some time. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.720 It makes me think about that being two different types 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.320 of happiness, like that, the happiness that is to do 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:37.040 with release and relaxation and recalibration, and happiness that is 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:41.800 to do with excitement, adrenaline challenge. I mean, they obviously 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.200 like augment the other, but I feel like I have 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.400 two different types of happiness that exists in my life. 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.280 And it was funny when you sent the questions. They 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.520 seem like pretty simple questions, but you're like, when and 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.800 where are you the happiest. I'm like, well, currently, right now, 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.800 I'm finally home, and I'm feeling so happy that I'm home. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.120 I'm spring cleaning, ripping everything out of my closet I 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.319 don't need. And then when I'm on the mountain, it 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.240 could be a blue bird day or I'm getting powder runs, 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.920 or I'm training, or I'm winning an event. There's so 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.360 many different categories. But currently right now that I'm finally home, 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.160 is a very very happy end zone that I'm in. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.760 Is it absolutely incredible being on that podium getting a 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.839 gold medal? Is it as extraordinary as I imagine it is? 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.040 Do you feel like a queen? You know, it's so 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.600 weird because I always imagined what i'd feel like, and 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.400 I imagined, oh, this is how I will act, and 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.480 this is how I'll stand. And then I got up 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:41.000 there and I rose. I was like, I'm blinking all 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.160 the words. Um, you know, I know my national anthem, 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.480 and I just literally just was in a state of shock. 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.880 I've been on the podium multiple times. I heard nationally 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.199 at the multiple times, and I felt like I just 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.720 zoned out, and I was just I'll stare at the flag, 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.360 I'll smile, but I think I was a statue for 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.640 most of the time. And then I have goose bumps, 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.079 and then you know, it was like that like Will Ferrell, 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.680 I'm like, I don't know what to do with my hands. 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.280 It just I feel so awkward. And then I see 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.840 everyone down at the bottom waving and then I'm like, 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.040 snap out of it. I'm like, oh hi, yeah, I 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.319 can wave to you, I can interact with you. It 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:21.200 was such an interesting mix of emotions. Part of you 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:24.520 can't believe that it's happening. Part of you has this 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.920 excitement that you've been working for this for this many years. 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.040 I just like some moments I started to like tear up, 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:32.960 and then it shut down. It's like you get your 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.600 composure back. So it's like my body didn't know how 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.920 to process the emotions and it was trying to do 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.760 it all at once, and then nothing happened. It is 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.280 kind of an extraordinary thing, like the realization of a dream, 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:48.200 like to be awake and present for that something that 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.720 you've worked for your entire life. Like, it's a stunning, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.440 rarified experience, which is why I'm fascinated to us. And 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.760 I mean, I'm glad. I'm glad that there is really 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.840 actually only a human reaction, which is what do I 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.280 do with my hands? Yeah? I was just you think 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.880 you're like, oh my gosh, is my collar not folded? Right? 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:05.480 Am I going to get in trouble? Is the where's 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.920 the flag? Where am I? Looking? Like? There's so many 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.040 things because it's orchestrated and you're walked out and they 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.400 have so much coordination and everything. You're like, am I 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.760 gonna walk the wrong way? I just follow this girl. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.520 I keep a good distance because it is TV. It's 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.679 very orchestrated, and they wanted to look a certain way. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.240 So it's uniform every time when every metal is being done, 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:32.600 because usually every day there's several metal ceremonies happening. And 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.840 you know, they started like I know, seven to nine 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:36.720 or something, and you're cute up and you're waiting in 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.320 the green room and they put you on a bench 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.439 and they're like, okay, you're next in line, so you'll 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.360 sit on this bench and then you're gonna be going. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.640 It's so TV. It's like, don't let your everything that 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.840 you've been working for your entire life get in the 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:52.160 way of our schedule. Oh, it's a lot of hurry 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.200 up and wait. Absolutely, they're like, get here at six. 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.480 You don't go on till eight thirty. You're like, wait, what, 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.920 Oh my god, it's so funny, this amazing moment in 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:02.520 your life. And it's like, no, it's got to be 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.520 on schedule, and no, it's nothing to do with the 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:06.280 country that you're in. It's actually just to do with 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.840 the way that television works, which is it thinks that 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:13.200 it is the emperor of everything. Yes, absolutely, even the 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.640 ceremonies afterwards in the interviews, you know, we went to 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.240 a little green room and we were doing all of 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.559 our post heap and race interviews on zoom, so we 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.360 just went from one to the next to the next, 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:25.960 and they're like, you have to be here for a 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.040 couple of hours, but oh no, this interview only starts 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.040 like in another fifteen minutes, so you have some time. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.800 You're like, oh, okay. So it's a whole new world 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.760 when you add the Olympic name, because that brings on 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.800 a whole new level of media, right, which we never 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:44.600 ever see only in every four year cycle. Wow, why 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.040 you got four years to recover taking one year at 0:13:48.040 --> 0:14:01.920 a time. So what question which you most like onset? Well, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.280 we ever not have to rely on fossil fuels for 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:10.280 energy being a snowboarder, and for the last plus years, 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.800 I have seen our seasons become shorter, and certain years 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.679 we still have really really great snow but then we 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.520 just have several seasons back to back that we're not 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.720 seeing the snow line. Saucepay is a place we always 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.480 go in Switzerland for early season training in October, and 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.080 I remember a lot of the times the glacier being 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.000 able to come so much further down at same time 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.240 of year, And every year it has gone up and 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.720 up and up, and if you're looking at it from 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.480 a year to year basis, you might not notice it. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.400 But since I started going there when I was seventeen, 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.520 it is a drastic difference. So trying to see what 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:51.080 I can do personally to reduce my carbon footprint being 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.600 in the world we're in right now. But I remember, 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.440 I remember when I was in high school and on 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.760 the National Geographic cover they had the car are that 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:05.760 was hydrogen fueled, and that was very very long time ago, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.360 and we still haven't really seen that come out yet 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.600 where it's hydrogen and the biproduct is water. And I 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:17.200 know that the science is there, and I just want 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:21.320 to see that science become more readily available to the masses. 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.400 I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, clearly the 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.360 electric car was available a lot sooner, yes, but still 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.560 the price point is still very high on some of 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.320 those vehicles. The price point but also like the lobbyists, 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.120 like in the United States, Like, how do you ever 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.720 get around special interest groups? It's like they don't live 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:40.200 in the same world we live in, As if their 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.480 children and grandchildren and children are somehow going to be 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.280 immune to the money that they think they have to 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.359 make now the power that they have to maintain, particularly 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.920 in oil and gas, as if their children are not 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:56.200 going to suffer as a result. It's really strange, this disconnect. 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.760 The thing is, we know it's not irreversible. It's just 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:02.400 enough people decide ding and enough people going well. I mean, 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.200 it's tricky turning infrastructure around, but what's trickier like creating 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.080 a new infrastructure and changing the way that you live 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.240 your life or they're not being life at all. It's 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.720 a hard balance and it's it's definitely been an uphill 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.560 battle for sure. And you just try to think within 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.320 your day to day life, you know, how can you 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:25.080 reduce your energy consumption and your waste and you try 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.400 to do the best you can. Yeah, I think that's 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.200 exactly it. You've got to hope that the corporations that 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.960 are really the ones that are pumping the fossil fuels, 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:34.840 we can do what we can do. We can eat 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.320 less meat, we can take care of our footprint, maybe 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.760 travel less. It's really hard, though, God, it must be 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.720 extraordinary literally to have seen a glacier recede like that. 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.280 You have watched that over the last twenty years. To 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.280 see that happen, it must be shocking. And you see 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:52.320 so many pictures earlier on, even way earlier on, of 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.600 that town and where the glacier comes down to. So 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.400 that's just one location that I've noticed it. So I 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:03.320 would love of my children to be able to skiing, 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.800 snowboard and to be able to have fun on the slopes, 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.200 and not only have it for a couple of months 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.040 of the year, but have those true winters. I hope 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:18.240 that's still possible for me too. In your life, can 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.840 you tell me about something that has grown out of 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:25.200 a personal disaster. Well, my obvious one is from two 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.280 thousand and six when I fell and I came up 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.360 short and had to wait sixteen years to finally get 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.560 my gold. But then I'd also say I believe it 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:39.800 was in My family shared a house in Stratton with 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.600 two other families, and it was our little weekend get 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:46.240 away that my dad's two buddies from high school and 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.440 now their kids, and we would all go up there 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.960 and kind of just cram into this house Stratton as well. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.240 It's on a mountain, ya Stratton Mountain, Vermont. Yes, it 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.800 was right at the bottom of the access road, and 0:17:57.960 --> 0:17:59.879 it was just this great time that all of the 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.800 could come together and be with everyone's friends and then 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.879 all of their kids. But that house burnt down. It 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.560 was a chimney fire. Nobody was at the house at 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.159 the time, which was really really good, but it was 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.159 a house that was built in the sixties and the 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:19.000 structure of the house was actually built into the chimney, 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.120 which is obviously not to code nowadays, but it was 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:26.080 actually what created the problem because it technically wasn't a 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:30.040 chimney fire, but since there was exposed beams that kind 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.760 of came up into the chimney area that it was 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.280 still hot enough from having a fire there the night before, 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.440 kind of just caught and we lost all of our 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.280 you know, very first memories of skiing in snowboarding that 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.639 we couldn't replace. Um. Stratton Mountain did have a great 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.160 backlog of all the photos that we've ever purchased from them, 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.840 and they gave them all to us. Because it's such 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.199 a small community. They all felt horrible that that happened. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.720 So Stratton gave us all the photos we've ever taken 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:04.280 that had on file. The local shops helped re outfit 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:08.040 my brother and myself, and at that time we were 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.040 waiting for the insurance money to come in. So my 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.800 dad's like, you, look, we can't afford to buy our 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.760 skis and our snowboards. You have to pick one, and 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:21.640 I chose snowboarding, and in that moment, that next weekend, 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.679 we're picking up all of our equipment that Mountain Riders 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.480 gave us, and I won this little Friday night border 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.760 cross race that was at the base of Stratton that 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.840 they build every Friday, and it got me noticed by 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.760 a coach in Kaglin at Stratton Mountain School and he 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.480 was like, wow, you're really good. You should come race 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.960 with us. This weekend we're doing like a g S 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.960 race at the neighboring mountain Bromley, and I had won 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.159 that race as well for my age group, and he's like, 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.879 you're pretty good at this. You should consider going to 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.800 Stratton Mountain School, which is an academy for skiers snowboarders 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.080 and Nordic skiers to help them balance their academics and 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.000 athletics while letting them pursue and see how far they 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.560 could take their athletics. So it was a weird string 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:11.160 of events that lined me up to being found by 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.640 a coach to go to Stratton School and two thousand three, 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.760 when I graduated high school, that's when border cross was 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.800 put into the Olympics. So it's just crazy because it's 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.639 always timing, and it's just with everything in life, how 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.159 things come together, and it's just not a blueprint that 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:29.199 you could just follow and that where you're going to 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.280 end up, that's what you're going to have as a result. 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.280 This was just such a crazy circumstance that was so 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.040 hard on all three families that were involved. It was 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:40.560 just very sad to lose so much and something great 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.359 came out of it. You couldn't see it right then 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:45.439 and there, but if you trace it back to that moment, 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.879 what if I'd pick skiing. It's kind of crazy to 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.520 look at it that way. Wow, that is an amazing story. 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.080 I think it's absolutely brilliant and that is really the 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.879 philosophy that I would stand by most which is purely observation, 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:04.360 which is that ship not working out. Is stuff working out, 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.280 It's just not on our timeline often and it's not 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.000 how we thought it was going to look right, But 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:14.560 what an amazing story and how great something so profound 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:16.800 grew and you still had to fight for it. It's 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.920 not like it was given, but the nascent point, it's amazing. 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.879 What would be your last meal? I'd have to say, 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.800 I love Mexican food, and I went a very very 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.280 very long time living in Europe and not being able 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:43.679 to have the traditional nection food or a California derivative 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:46.840 of Mexican style food. Just there's this great place not 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.640