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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast lived long enough to see

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Speaker 1: Greg become the villain. Welcome back to another edition to

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Speaker 1: and I am joined by a room filled with heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Gregg Rosatal. What's up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: Sometimes those money drops pop up and I don't know

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Speaker 1: where they came from. That one seemed a bit cutting almost,

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Speaker 1: you start to wonder where did it come from. It's

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Speaker 1: a it's amazing. I said it early on in this

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Speaker 1: half years in. Yeah, when the standing with faint praise,

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Speaker 1: needs to be. Called me a villain always, I always

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Speaker 1: loved it. Your favorite part of the podcast is something

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Speaker 1: Matt Smith does and you have let's just do it

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Speaker 1: just that it rotates each time, just the whole, the whole,

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Speaker 1: This is the Monday edition of the Around the NFL

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Speaker 1: podcast UH taped February two thousand seventeen. West is wearing

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Speaker 1: It was the perfect day to wear it. And let's Greg.

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Speaker 1: This is not a shot at you. First of all,

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Speaker 1: good job on your NFL network hit. It's gotten to

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Speaker 1: the point where Greg is taping these hits seconds before.

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Speaker 1: Have you when we're taping, have you reached the point

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Speaker 1: no one spots him, none of his fans. I had handlers.

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Speaker 1: They would have noticed my tie wasn't straight apparent. But no,

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Speaker 1: the point I was I was intending to make just now,

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Speaker 1: Greg was you know, it's been eight days since the

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Speaker 1: Patriots won their fifth Super Bowl UH NFL network, and

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Speaker 1: put ninety plus hours I'm not exaggerating of Patriots content

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Speaker 1: then I come to work today Monday, eight days later

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Speaker 1: we could start spinning forward as a nation from another

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Speaker 1: Patriots glory refest, and today on NFL Network is and

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Speaker 1: I'll quote here, I heart the Patriots Day on NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: Another ten plus hours of programming. Even even for you, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you have to be getting a little sick of all this.

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Speaker 1: thousands upon thousands of people don't want to see that.

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Speaker 1: But you were watching it, Greg was. I looked at well,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. There's more to it that I didn't

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Speaker 1: only two playoff appearances this century. He did it with

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Speaker 1: David Garrard and Byron left which not a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He took the Raiders to the first playoff experience, like

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Speaker 1: Mark said, in fifteen years. Here's some numbers that crunched.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders were fifty six and one thirty six from

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Speaker 1: two thousand two until they hired Jeff Jack del rio

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Speaker 1: winning percentage. They are five four since hiring him. The

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are to eighteen winning percentage since firing Jack del Rio,

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Speaker 1: who had a five hundred record in his years with Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: This guy has made his teams better wherever he's been.

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Speaker 1: That's all true, and I agree, But the argument against

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Speaker 1: him would be one you've had against, you know, Marvin Lewis.

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Speaker 1: He you know, Jack del Rio has won one more

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Speaker 1: playoff game than Marvin Lewis in the same amount of years.

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Speaker 1: By the time he left Jacksonville, it was time for

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Speaker 1: him to go. But he's a good He's a good

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Speaker 1: NFL coach. Also put an axe in a log in

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Speaker 1: a locker room. I think he's gotten better with the

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Speaker 1: Raiders to it's unfair to hold Derek Carr's injury against

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Speaker 1: him this year, to hold like the teams in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: He wanted him to go into New England and beat

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Speaker 1: the Patriots after he went into Pittsburgh and beat the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I mean just saying, I'm saying he's he's been fine.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't. Lewis has favored in quite a few of

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Speaker 1: those playoff games. Don't think anybody had the Jaguars favored.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed your pregnant pause. Yeah. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: just that's fine. That's that's on him that he does

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Speaker 1: I get. I'm just saying we judge some guys harshly

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Speaker 1: for the lack of playoffs success. I think it's worth pointing,

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Speaker 1: worth pointing. I think what he's done well in Oakland

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Speaker 1: and we'll see how it works too with changing his

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinators. He seems like he knows the league. He

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Speaker 1: knows people in the league, people believe in him. He

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Speaker 1: knows how to hire a staff, and he did a

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Speaker 1: great job of that in Oakland. Now he's switching up

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Speaker 1: the staff, which you would think would be a risk,

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Speaker 1: but it's the second time you know they're doing it

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Speaker 1: and and you kind of trusted him to find it

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Speaker 1: really helps too, when you lose that first job, go

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Speaker 1: become a coordinator against see the league from a different

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Speaker 1: pair of eyes, and when he's been a better coach

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Speaker 1: with the Raiders and he's completely in a good relationship

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Speaker 1: with the rest of that organization, that matters. His aggressiveness

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Speaker 1: didn't start in Oakland. He was one of the most

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Speaker 1: aggressive fourth down coaches in the NFL when he had

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Speaker 1: Maurice Jones drew as a weapon there, and Marvin Lewis

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Speaker 1: has been the opposite. I think he's been overly conservative

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Speaker 1: to a fault. Right, I'm I'm just saying he did

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Speaker 1: have five straight years without a winning record. It should

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Speaker 1: be noted in the conversation. Let's move on, Let's move

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Speaker 1: back to Orchard Park and talk about Tyrod Taylor. I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of people the football cogniscenty nice but

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Speaker 1: that Tyrod Taylor's time with the Buffalo Bills is over

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Speaker 1: after he got benched in Week seventeen and then Rex's

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Speaker 1: number one guy supporter was fired. But that might not

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Speaker 1: be the case. You have that h thirty point seven

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Speaker 1: five million dollar contract option, which must be exercised by

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Speaker 1: March eleven. But according to Vick Caruccia the Buffalo News,

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor has not ruled out a slightly altered contract

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Speaker 1: to remain in Buffalo, but he's unwilling to accept any

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Speaker 1: restructure that would reduce his pay. Uh and Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: because you wrote in your piece on around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: that's where it gets tricky. That is where it gets tricky,

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Speaker 1: because I think you could both of these sides could

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Speaker 1: have looked in early January and said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: the grass is greener. Tyrod Taylor can go find a

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Speaker 1: team willing to pay him. The Bills can go try

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Speaker 1: to get Tony Romo. And I think now it's become

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Speaker 1: clear that neither of these teams can do anything. Neither

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Speaker 1: of these sides can do any better. Tyrod Taylor is

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Speaker 1: not gonna find a team willing to make him their

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, and the Bills aren't gonna find Tony Romo

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Speaker 1: is not gonna agree to go to Buffalo. And it's

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Speaker 1: also I don't know if Tony to people act like

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo is and coming off an m v P season,

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Speaker 1: and there's just great teams out there, and he can

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Speaker 1: just he can just go around and pick, like, who

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Speaker 1: are those teams? To me? The Bills are a decent

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Speaker 1: pick is retirement, sure, because why would you go to

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Speaker 1: Buffalo with why are they a decent roster? Who's on

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Speaker 1: their defense? Now, I'm just saying that they they've won

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Speaker 1: fifteen games last two years. That there are worst teams

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Speaker 1: looking for quarterbacks like the Browns from there's not that

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Speaker 1: any great teams like you know, the Bears who played

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Speaker 1: great for their defense last year, Lorenzo Alexander, Zach Brown

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Speaker 1: both free agents. Stephan Gilmore is a free agent. Where's

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Speaker 1: the talent on their defense? I don't see it at all.

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Speaker 1: This team is much closer to being a four or

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Speaker 1: five win team than a playoff Plus, Tyrod Taylor wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you rather wouldn't rather have him than Tony Roel. Tyrod

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Speaker 1: Taylor finished the season playing before he was, you know,

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Speaker 1: sent packing late in the year he was. He played

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Speaker 1: some of his best football late in the year. And

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Speaker 1: if you're the Bills and you're gonna get rid of

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Speaker 1: him in this way, you've just hired a new coach.

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Speaker 1: What are you going to give that coach at quarterback?

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Speaker 1: You have to know that something better is coming in

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Speaker 1: and there's literally zero guarantee of that if you're the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Greg put yourself in n Greg Rosenthal shoes in a

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Speaker 1: similar spec Ye. Yeah, pre Tom Brady and all the glory,

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Speaker 1: and you were given the chance to stay with Tyrod

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Speaker 1: Taylor or bring in the exciting, mysterious Tony as a fan.

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Speaker 1: As a fan, yeah, I would go with Roma. I

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Speaker 1: think that's the way a lot of Bills fans probably feel,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's a good fit for

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Speaker 1: Romo or the Bills. Right guy and stayed healthy for

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Speaker 1: three straight games in three years. There's a reason why

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Speaker 1: they benched Tyrod Taylor for e J Mane. There's a

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Speaker 1: reason why they've been reluctant to extend Tyrod Taylor. Right

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Speaker 1: and Doug Whaley, you know, there is a report that

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Speaker 1: they're kind of open to card L Jones maybe competing

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Speaker 1: for the starting job. Doug Waley used to love Ejan

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Speaker 1: But here here's the big thing that's changed in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: that we we haven't mentioned Rick Dennison is their offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator Rick Denison. Uh is coming from Denver, a team

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Speaker 1: that tried to sign Tyrod Taylor just two off seasons

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Speaker 1: ago in free agency, directly after Rick Denison and Gary

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Speaker 1: Kubiak coach Tyrod Taylor in Baltimore. So this guy has

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Speaker 1: a history with Tyrod Taylor, he knows him, and you

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Speaker 1: would think he fits the offense pretty well and and

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Speaker 1: that that Dennison, who's running the offense, would go for.

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Speaker 1: That would be for Doug Whaley a loss because it

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Speaker 1: feels like Doug Whaley has been on this bizarre campaign

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Speaker 1: to turn EJ. Manuel into an NFL starter, and it's

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Speaker 1: very tedious moving on the New England Patriots or Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champions. But the business operation, the business arm of

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Speaker 1: the Evil Empire, never sleeps Greg uh The Darren Ravel

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Speaker 1: of ESPN Reporter over the weekend of the Patriots have

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Speaker 1: filed a trademark the phrase blitz for six and not

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Speaker 1: of course, to New England's five Super Bowl titles, and

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Speaker 1: they're assumed quest in seventeen. The paperwork was dated just

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Speaker 1: two days after the Patriots beat the Falcons and Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl fifty one. UH. Some other interesting little Patriots trademark

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Speaker 1: news mark is what we're going through right now. They're

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Speaker 1: very serious about this stuff. For Vel also reported the

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Speaker 1: team filed to trademark quote ignore the noise a week

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Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl. Job being proactive there, Greg gotta

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Speaker 1: lock that one up and filed for no days off

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Speaker 1: on the same day. Belichick attempted to get that chant

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Speaker 1: off the ground at the Patriots victory parade. Uh. The

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Speaker 1: team has received trademarks in the past for both do

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Speaker 1: your job and we are All Patriots in recent years,

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Speaker 1: and they've also recently received trademarks for nineteen and oh

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Speaker 1: and the Perfect Season, which I'm sure Eli Manning chuckles

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Speaker 1: about in quieter moments. Well, that's probably what they think

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Speaker 1: will happen next year. I mean, here's my the one

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Speaker 1: of all these these are very tedious. I get why

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Speaker 1: they're why they would want to why get locked these

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Speaker 1: down and make sure they don't get put on, you know,

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Speaker 1: T shirts made somewhere else in all this business. But

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Speaker 1: no days off is when you, to me, started to

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Speaker 1: look and just well, that's all. It is incredibly pompous.

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Speaker 1: It is incredibly pompous, and you're you're looking out at

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Speaker 1: all these Patriots fans and I realized all that we're

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Speaker 1: taking a day off to come to your parade. But secondly,

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Speaker 1: trying to just tell the average person out there that

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Speaker 1: works hard for a week new days off. I mean,

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Speaker 1: give me a break. Who is lining up for that

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Speaker 1: and actually living that out. Mark took it as a

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Speaker 1: shot because do your job. Do your job. When you're

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Speaker 1: at work, do your job. That makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: But this idea that all humans suddenly Bill Belichick's suggesting

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Speaker 1: that no one should take a day off, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that is that is beyond the pale ridiculousness. I think

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Speaker 1: it was perfect that Darren Ravelle was the one to

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Speaker 1: report this because of all human beings on earth, like

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Speaker 1: if the Patriots were beating the rush on Blitz for six,

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Speaker 1: ravel is the only one who would come up with

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Speaker 1: something that's stupid. Well, everyone didn't. Teams always trademark these

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Speaker 1: nonsense things. It's just, you know, there's a little more

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Speaker 1: fun on the Patriots. Sure, remember that the Steelers were

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Speaker 1: all about like one for the thumb. I can almost

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Speaker 1: get that. But blitz, you know one of the Jets

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Speaker 1: trade rocking in February. I mean, all teams do it

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Speaker 1: if they get into a situation but New England is

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Speaker 1: going trademark nuts. Also Blitzer six is yeah, terrible terrible

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Speaker 1: blitz Are they like a known as like it's extremely corny.

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Speaker 1: It's just come up with some other ones then I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they have yeh. They probably have some poor man

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Speaker 1: locked in their basement cranking out these names. And this one,

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, made it up the chain. One of

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Speaker 1: those two balls, put a ring on your junk man?

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Speaker 1: Where where do those two ball boys? No, they're not

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Speaker 1: buried under the turnpike. They're coming up with terrible slogans

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Speaker 1: somewhere in a basement. A lot of stuff to unpack

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Speaker 1: here you Mark has a great take on where the

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Speaker 1: flatirs are there in the basement cranking out these titles

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Speaker 1: to stay alive? And um, that's what they for food

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Speaker 1: and water they get that. And what was your thing? Greg?

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Speaker 1: What did you say? Had I said? One of the

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Speaker 1: ones rejected was put a ring on your That was

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Speaker 1: that was the steak. He's not getting longer for Sydney thing,

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Speaker 1: said she laughed. Actually it's just an empty chair spinning

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Speaker 1: in the door closing all right. Finally, uh, one last

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Speaker 1: note here, Um, as you might have assumed it would happen.

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Speaker 1: After I I threatened the more of the weak willed

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Speaker 1: listeners about um the chewing sounds. Uh, someone actually did

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Speaker 1: come at me. Some people really want to hear the

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Speaker 1: banana drop, which I'm not gonna just be willy nilly

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Speaker 1: about it. Uh, it probably will come. There are massochists

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Speaker 1: in all lines of work. But there was a man

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Speaker 1: that very uh seriously and earnestly tweeted at me that

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Speaker 1: he unsubscribed from the show because it was disrespectful of

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Speaker 1: me to come at him about a sound effect. Um.

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Speaker 1: So I did a little research and apparently this is

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Speaker 1: a real thing. The people that have been complaining about

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Speaker 1: the drop, the sandwich drop, it is misoponia. Uh is

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Speaker 1: isear this sounds on you? Are you sure about this?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a prank on the people that suffer

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Speaker 1: from it, because misoponia, uh is an affliction where people

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Speaker 1: can't deal with the certain chewing sounds or just certain

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Speaker 1: sounds in general that are kind of an everyday part

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Speaker 1: of life, but for some reason it cuts through them.

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Speaker 1: And the good news is I want to be um

642
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: somebody that tries to help Mark. That's why I feel

643
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: like part of the reason we're on this on this

644
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: earth is to help others continue. I want everyone to

645
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: know that on February eighteenth and nineteen at Circus Circus

646
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Speaker 1: Hotel and Casino, UH, there will be the fourth Annual

647
00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: Misoponia UH Association Convention and President's Day weekend, so you'll

648
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: have a long weekend so you don't have to take

649
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: a day off of work. UH. It's this upcoming weekend.

650
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: You could register at MISO Convention two thousand seventeen dot

651
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: event grid dot com and UH you could be with

652
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: people that suffer from the same affliction. And I am

653
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: not making light of it. Uh. It's very serious and

654
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: that's where you can go to get help. Well, you're

655
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: calling it a fear, all right, I do not think

656
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: it's I I would say slown up to the fact

657
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: that the sound of people chewing when I'm around, just

658
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: even in our workplace, when you can hear people chewing

659
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: on something is is awful. I hate it. I'm not

660
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: scared of it. It is just it is I I

661
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: cannot it is gross and I cannot tolerate it. Alrights

662
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: pony UH is a strong dislike or hatred of specific sounds,

663
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 1: also known as misso phonia. Also known a selective sound

664
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: sensitivity syndrome, starts with a trigger. It is often an

665
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: oral sound, the noise someone makes when they eat, breathe, chew, yawn,

666
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: or whistle. Sometimes a small repetitive motion is the cause

667
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: someone fidgets, jostles you, or wiggles their foot. And if

668
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: you have a mild reaction, which people are getting a

669
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: mild reaction from our podcast, I don't blame them. A

670
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: little bit of guilt here. No, they're gonna stop the drop.

671
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop the drop. But I feel a

672
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: little guilty. Uh. Some of the symptoms anxious, uncomfortable, that

673
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: urge to flee, which I guess is unbet it and discussed.

674
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: Do you like the sound of people chewing on food?

675
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean, no one see. I think it's it just

676
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: maybe doesn't get on your radar. The apple drop does

677
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: not bother me at all. It's a crisp sound. Well,

678
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't find what about the pickle one the most recently?

679
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: That is awful? But that is awful? Cross me? Are

680
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: you getting the banana getting big yellow? It's no difference

681
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: to me. They're the same, Oh said, are they the same?

682
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: Seems like they're being more of a slurping sound with

683
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: it is next level. Everyone listening to this podcast will

684
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: come up with me so phony if you uh hear

685
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: that once. Alright, so you're here to help, but you're

686
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: also hanging over the heads of everyone a terrible threat. Okay,

687
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: all right, I like the way you handled that day. Thanks.

688
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't know next book. I'm just trying. I'm trying

689
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: my best, uh to both hear the critiques of the podcast,

690
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: but also you have to you have to kind of

691
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: sift them out because you can't not everyone you need

692
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: to act on. But maybe this one, after I looked

693
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: look this up, I feel maybe a little torn, like

694
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we get rid of the chewing Druss, But

695
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what about the guy who thinks we're

696
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: beholding to him going go he go? Alright, moving up,

697
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, how do we want to do this? We're

698
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the both the free agency, um, the

699
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: top free agents and I think west you said on

700
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: our last show one of the weakest free agency class,

701
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: the weakest you said in in recent memory. Um and uh,

702
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: but as of right now, it's all pending free agents,

703
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: so and and the tags have not been handed out

704
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: yet so a lot of players will get released, a

705
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: lot of that will add to the pool exactly. And

706
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: and and don't don't forget everybody the the the San

707
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: Diego Graybeards. Where are they St. Louis? I can't remember.

708
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: I love to decide what city they play in. But

709
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: this is very important for the Gray Beards. We we

710
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: are tracking all these players as well as we form

711
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: our two thousand seventeen roster. We're very excited. Let me

712
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: just put it this way. We're very excited about Victor Cruz,

713
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: both as someone that could play the slot and as

714
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: an ambassador of the Gray band. I think this may

715
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: be the worst Graybeards team you will field. And since

716
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: going back to like the late nine eighties Plan B

717
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: free agency, the Gray Beards are your your team of

718
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: free agents unsigned midway through this if you're thirty or over,

719
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: you have a home with me. Um My franchise, which

720
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: originally was in Los Angeles. We we uh we moved

721
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 1: to St. Louis and and yep, actually yeah, we're moving

722
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: to uh San Diego this year. So the San Diego Graybeards.

723
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: Little breaking news right there, all right now, great tough

724
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: to break for St. Louis didn't even keep the Graybeards.

725
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: I demanded a new stadium. They would not, Uh, they

726
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: would not vote, and you put it out there. The

727
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: public did not do their job for you. My hands

728
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: were tied and I I've made the decision. Didn't want

729
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: to do it, had to do it. The franchise Tag

730
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: primer predictions for all thirty two NFL teams. Greg you Uh,

731
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: you put this up on the site today, in fact Monday,

732
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: and UM, you broke it down into as you are

733
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: want to do. You broke it down into categories. Uh.

734
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: And let's start with what you call the no brainers.

735
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: You have five no brainers on this list. Uh, and

736
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: I'll just I'll name them off right now. Eric Berry

737
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs, Chandler Jones of Jones of the Cardinals,

738
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell of the Steelers, quant Short of the Panthers,

739
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins of the Redskins. So you're saying, in

740
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: your mind, there is no way, uh, any of these

741
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: players hits the market. I don't think there is. The

742
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: only thing that could prevent the franchise tag would be

743
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: a contract done in time uh for them, you know,

744
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: not to put it on by March one or you know,

745
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: by free agency. But I don't think that's gonna happen generally.

746
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: Eric Barry said, he's not playing under the franchise, Like

747
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: that's fine. The Chiefs can't let them just dictate. They

748
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: gotta put the tag on him and see and it's

749
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: no coincidence. It's kind of crazy. These are the five

750
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: no brainers. These were also my top five, not in

751
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: the same order, but my top five free agents. These

752
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: I think are the five best players. And I don't

753
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: think they're going anywhere. I don't think there's any chance

754
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: that any of them are going in. But you have

755
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: Eric Berry ahead of even lab is there. This is

756
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: not that's not well. I think the reader is gonna

757
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: think it's ordered when they see the numbers here. I

758
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: don't see what happened. But well, there's what would you

759
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: be ranking them? I don't know. I like that you

760
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: called them to brainers, but then you give a long

761
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: paragraph explanation for it. You could have been Bolden said,

762
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,479
Speaker 1: I don't even explain it to you. No brainer, here's

763
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: the name. Have a nice day. You give them, you know,

764
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: you give them. That's not how the texts are they

765
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: going to get contracts or is this gonna happen some

766
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: background Chandler Jones, for instance, you might want to know

767
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: Bruce arians has already said it publicly, So it's not

768
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: like I'm out on a limb. Without Gregg's explanations, we

769
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: would not have been getting We would not have been

770
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: given the benefit of two different strikethroughs in the opening. Wow,

771
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: a double strike to strike JN. Fox got a strike through?

772
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: What else? It's like that strike through bits? Yeah, a

773
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: big spot from one question, is there one of these

774
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: five that could go south if you, if you had

775
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: to pick one, were suddenly somehow, in a shocking moment

776
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: of actual breaking news that one of these guys becomes

777
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: a free agent. I guess Kwan short just because of

778
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: the Panthers history of doing surprising things, seems like less

779
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: of a lock. But no, the only thing that could

780
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: be go south year is Eric Barry and the Chiefs,

781
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: maybe Levy on Bell and the Steelers and their negotiations.

782
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: You know Eric burried in sign to August last year,

783
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: couldn't you see I mean you could see the same

784
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: thing happening in this time at going into the season

785
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: because he is not happy and uh in the next subhead,

786
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: it's we have the facts and we're voting. Yes, Royal

787
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: were there in a big spot like it any anything?

788
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: I thought I thought you'd be in the music. It's

789
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of a nod to a music group.

790
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: Here we have the facts, Yes, maniacs. No, do you

791
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: watch a Graham? Anybody watching a Grammys? But I didn't

792
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: watched a large portion of them. I did. I texted

793
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: you about it number oh yeah, oh yeah. You were

794
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: not thrilled with the adele George Michael. I think she

795
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: did a great job at the song choice was very odd.

796
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: Of all the George Michael songs you could pick. It

797
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: was a it was a late period song that she

798
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: slowed down. It was a look I mean you want

799
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 1: to talk about like that's the music business super Bowl

800
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: And they were beset by technical glitches. James Hetfield's microphone

801
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: didn't even work half of his song. Alca is still around, Yes,

802
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean they're war hoars of the heavy metal scene.

803
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: People still listen to heavy metal absolutely. Yeah. That surprises me. Yes,

804
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: everybody likes different things. I know. I just thought that

805
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: like that. I thought they were like hair bands, they

806
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: ran their course. People are like oh yeah that they're

807
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: like there was a ruling everybody like. I don't think

808
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: their latest work maybe resonates as much, but they're like

809
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: the rolling They're still selling out Arena Stone. I feel

810
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: it would be good. I would love to sit down

811
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: and watch a four hour Grammy telecast with Chris Wesley.

812
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: I didn't even pay it until this morning because you

813
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: don't have a TV. Is that you're gonna shoehorn this in?

814
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: Like I don't have a TV. Grammys are on. If

815
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm totally unplugged from all of that, it's about me. No,

816
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: that's you said. You kind of like Chance the rapper,

817
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: Like you know, he played like he was good. I

818
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: like Beyonce, I like Adele, like Beyonce. I mean I

819
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: was watching this with my wife and we built that

820
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: Beyonce just looks stunning. What's just going on? She's Yeah,

821
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: she's a very attractive woman. I thought her performance was

822
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: actually a little bit ponderous. I have to say the

823
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: performance it was a little bit and I know that's

824
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: not popular because anything she does aspect Oh, Beyonce stole

825
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: the show a little bit on the ponder side, but

826
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: she also got robbed. That should have one Album of

827
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: the Year, Lemonade, She Got wrapped, gotta get that bee

828
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: hive to the old Zeuser's uh car player actually lead

829
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: the player. Yeah, what is the only CD I've I

830
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 1: have in the last ten years because it's on Greg's

831
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: service of choice. Uh what is it again? Title title?

832
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: So I had to actually get the hardcore to listen

833
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: to it. One of your weirder bits in the world.

834
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: That not a bit that you are very anti title.

835
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm anti title too that Apple Music Spotify respects Spotify title. Yeah,

836
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: I love this other like global you know. He was like,

837
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: these these musicians are full of themselves. That let me

838
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: attach myself to some other global conglomerate. T take my money.

839
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: What's the difference? Go to YouTube and google title opening

840
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: press conference, speaking of Ponderous, I'll watch that. I'll go

841
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: look that up tonight. Thank you anyway, And that was

842
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: our Grammys wrap up, Moving on now I get it,

843
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: get the field. Good call. I thought for a second

844
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: that was Mark's good for you, just boiled up. This

845
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: is good for you, for you and this is the

846
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: case you guy. God. I mean it's I don't like

847
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: to say it, but it's very similar. It is interesting

848
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: that how the human emotions work. That yours was a

849
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: moment of fury where you wanted to kill everybody in

850
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: the room. Mostly, I'm getting lots of tweets. I even

851
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: got a text from someone being like, you're not really

852
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: getting along with Mark Lake. It's like, oh no, perceptibly,

853
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: it's a text from someone that actually knows you. Who

854
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: was it? You gotta reveal, gotta reveal it's a friend

855
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: of mine that you don't know. I'm not gonna you

856
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: would know. More important is what was the reply to

857
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: that tepe? What did you say? You pull it up

858
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: on your phone. I said the same thing I just

859
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: said to you, like, that's ridiculous. It's just you know,

860
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: we're just on the podcast. But I hope that's not

861
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: a We were texting about La La Lander, Greg and

862
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: I getting along just fine. What do you think I

863
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: have no comment? I think that a no comment. I

864
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: think a lot of what happens in the studio is

865
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: you know, forgotten about the minute we walk out. That's

866
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yes, so you walk back from that

867
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: no comment right quickly? Well, I that's how I would

868
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: handle just about any outburst in this studio is quickly forgotten,

869
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: quick no comment unless it's made into a sound drop

870
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: that gets dropped on your Twitter feed four thousand times.

871
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: We have the facts and we're voting yes. By the way,

872
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: a death cab for Cutie album Okay, I like death

873
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: cap too good. Drop Buddy Terrell Prior, uh six A

874
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: J Booie uh Bowie Booie Pott, Jason Pierre Paul and

875
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram. Uh those are the you in your opinion,

876
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: they will get the tag. Putting the tag well, Prior

877
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: is a guy who's fascinating to me. You'd have to

878
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: make him one of the highest Uh one, Yeah, I

879
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: did you know. I tried to get some opinions out there,

880
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: and it sounds like, uh, if they I think they'll

881
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: reach a long term He's the one guy on this

882
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: list that I kind of think they might reach a

883
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: long term deal in time, because if you're Tarrell Prior

884
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: and you're the Browns, it makes sense for him to

885
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: take twenty million guaranteed on a four year, forty million dollar.

886
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: I could see them coming to like a quick deal.

887
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: Whereas but if they can't, then I would think you

888
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: put the tag on him. You can't let a talented player.

889
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: Why right we talked about I'm totally with you, and

890
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: the Browns have somewhere close to it, like a hundred

891
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: million available money. What do you aiving this money up for?

892
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: Because you don't use it year after year and the

893
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: lot the worst case scenarios Terrell Prior going to the

894
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: Ravens or the Steelers or Bengals and blowing up for

895
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: twelve yards with to two hundred yard games against the Browns.

896
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: So how about you keep them? I got something that's

897
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: gonna should get you very excited. Mark, Okay, because in

898
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: my opinion, if it's Brown related, if it's Brown's related,

899
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: good luck. You're no longer to me the most hopeless

900
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: UH fan in this room. I think the Jets kind

901
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: of a darker future right now than the Browns on

902
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: some level, because I think you there's a thirty seven

903
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: percent chance that you have Jimmy Garoppolo and Terrell Prior

904
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: coming off at hundred yard season this time next year. Chance,

905
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: in my opinion, if all that fell into place, there

906
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: would be some hope. Don't that's Mark's corner, Oh, the

907
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: hopeless corner. Do not try Stefan on that corner that

908
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: that would be weird you coming off that corner after

909
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: years and years, But if there was someone that had

910
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: to take the corner would probably be Jets fans, so

911
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: it would make sense in this room, yes, but for

912
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: now you still have the corner, but securely have the corner.

913
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: It feels like it's changing a little bit. Last year

914
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: this time you're talking about the ten and six Jets,

915
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: So thanks change quickly anyway, any other one, any of

916
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: those other names, Greg that you wanted to hit on

917
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: um J Mike Kara Folo said today that Giants will

918
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: make a legitimate run at trying to sign JPP before

919
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: free agency, and that had something to do with the Victor,

920
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: the Victor Cruz and Sean Jennings releases. Well, it makes sense.

921
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: If you're gonna pay Olivia Vernon seventeen a year, why

922
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: would you not try to pay Jason Pierre Paul And

923
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: if you can't, why not pay him seventeen for one year.

924
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that's that crazy. They can find very

925
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: good before you got hurt, you can find them. Booyer

926
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: is a is a guy who might get paid more

927
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: than Stefan Gilmore or any other cornerback if he makes it.

928
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: But they had a better year than good. But I

929
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: but I think they might just tag. They just can't

930
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: let him get to the open market. The next category

931
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: coin flips that land on no tag? Is that a

932
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: death caps on as well? Now, uh, this is a

933
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: three man group, three well established players. Donta Hi Tower

934
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: who you last saw being just a wrecking ball and

935
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: helping the Patriots in their comeback win and super both

936
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: fifty one branded Williams, who's right out of the Snacks

937
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: Harrison book uh as a middle of the line stuffer

938
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: who can get paid in a big spot. And then

939
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: Alshon Jeffrey a little sexy here, the wide receiver who

940
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 1: we all know what he can do when he's healthy,

941
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: but he's not always healthy. You don't think any of

942
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: these guys get tagged when it comes down to him.

943
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: These are I think we're close to fifty fifty, but

944
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: I leaned towards no. Jeffrey is a tough case. They're

945
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: they're going into their third year together Ryan Pace and

946
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: John Fox and they're coming off a three win season

947
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: and he's maybe the best player on the team. I

948
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 1: don't know who who's better on that team, but he'll

949
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: be do seventeen and a half million dollars coming off

950
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: of a p D suspension. He was hurt. He doesn't

951
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 1: necessarily seem to want to be there that much. That's

952
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: that's a tough call. This is what happens to bad teams.

953
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: He predicted they're gonna the Super Bowl. Greg, that's true.

954
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: To see that through. Definitely got to see that through.

955
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: And then you have the final category here, not quite.

956
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: You have six names here that don't don't meet the criteria. Criteria,

957
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: but they could be considered, you would think, not quite

958
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: a Delaware single from way back, Stephan Gilmore of the Bills,

959
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 1: Trumaine Johnson of the Rams, Nick Perry, the outside linebacker

960
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: the Packers, Kevin Zeitler, the guard of the Bengals, Riley Rife,

961
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: and Larry Warford. You doubled them up. These are long shots.

962
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: And then Barry Church and Morris Clayborne of the Cowboys.

963
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys are an interest in case Gregg, as

964
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: you wrote in your piece, well, they have a lot

965
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: of good but not great players I mean that are

966
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: headed for free agency. Jerry Jones said it this weekend

967
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: that you know they're looking for some war horses for

968
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: their defense. And they're daddies. Were daddies, were daddies because

969
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: they've got about five or six guys who played a

970
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: lot of snaps for them up for free agency. But

971
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: they're none of them are superstars. So it's it's a

972
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: tricky off season, all right. So those are the Gilmore

973
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: by the way, forget about him. He's he going going.

974
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: So a lot of those players that we just talked

975
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: about will hit the free agent market most likely, uh,

976
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: come March something or other. What is free agency start

977
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: this year? A couple of days after the combine. Um,

978
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: so that's really March. Uh So Wes, you worked up

979
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of a list. Uh, we'll take just

980
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes here of players that we didn't

981
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: just discuss but that are going to be at the

982
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: top of the wish list for teams that have a

983
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: lot of money to spend this offseason. But uh, the

984
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: gifts that they're shopping for maybe not that great. Yeah.

985
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: It's telling how shallow this class is that almost every

986
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: worthwhile free agent has been named in Greg's peace on

987
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: potential franchise tags. One guy is Clais Campbell. Actually the

988
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: Cardinals have three guys with Chandler Jones, Clais Campbell, and

989
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: Tony Jefferson all should be getting paid. Clais Campbell twenty

990
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: nine years old, one of the best defensive linemen in

991
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: the end FL, and I don't know if the Cardinals

992
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,959
Speaker 1: are gonna pay him or not. He's one of those guys.

993
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: I was surprised when I saw he was only twenty nine.

994
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of JPP like JPP Is and those they've

995
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: been around and playing at a high level for so

996
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: long and they came into the league young that it

997
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: just you didn't realize. I didn't Campbell could get a

998
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: huge money. Don Terry Pose another one. If the Chiefs

999
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: are going to eventually find out find a deal for

1000
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: Eric Barry, they won't have enough cap room maybe to

1001
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: sign Don Terry Poe. Who is maybe not Brandon Williams

1002
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: because he's been he's had more health issues at nose tackle,

1003
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: but he's one of the most athletic nose tackles in

1004
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: the NFL. Who Greg and I know you worked up

1005
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: your own list and then YouTube, gentlemen, the scientists will

1006
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: go in the lab and make the top ninety nine.

1007
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: But who is at first blush the free agent that's

1008
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: going to get the most wildly overpaid. Your opinions wildly overpaid? Mark,

1009
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: if you have an opinion on this, I just oh,

1010
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: you think so, I do. Why why don't you think

1011
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: he'd be worth it? Well, he's only had basically eight

1012
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: good games in his career, and they were the eight

1013
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: last eight games of last season. He's had half a

1014
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: he said, half a good season in his career. Jimmy

1015
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: Garobbo has had two good games in his and everybody

1016
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: needs cornerbacks. Makes sense. Stefan Gilmore, He's a guy who

1017
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: I think showed enough in his Buffalo career. But if

1018
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: you think about Sean McDermott and what they did in Carolina,

1019
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: they didn't look to pay Josh Norman. That was kind

1020
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: of the scheme who made their cornerbacks. He's the guy

1021
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: who's gonna get the free agency. He could get paid

1022
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: a lot. Alshon Jeffreys a good player, so I hate

1023
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be overpaid. But if he makes it

1024
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: the free agency, and I think he will, he'll be

1025
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 1: the highest paid wide receiver in the league. I don't

1026
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: and he's not close to being the best wide receiver

1027
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: in the league, but I think he'll be making more

1028
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: money than any wide receivers ever made. I mean, I

1029
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: think he can get a Calvin Johnson type of contract.

1030
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: The way you asked this question, I didn't take it

1031
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: to mean that it's gonna be a bad player exposed.

1032
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: Like v a Vernon was the most overpaid player last year,

1033
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: he ended up being kind of worth Was he right?

1034
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: Was he? In the end? I kind of think they

1035
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: would totally do that again. I guess if if you

1036
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: can just add an above average starter and you can

1037
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: fit them under your cap, it almost doesn't matter. We'll

1038
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins not be overpaid. Every quarterbacks paid that. I mean,

1039
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: that's just how quarterbacks are paid. This list, though, with

1040
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: the look, with the class that we're looking at, you

1041
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: guys used to do. I thought it was nice you'd

1042
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: put someone notable at one oh one. If it was Michael,

1043
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: I think was there. So what are we gonna be

1044
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: at it one D and one or ninety nine or whatever?

1045
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: This list is gonna be Cruz. Oh, it's gonna be Vick. Yes,

1046
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: we might have to go to to I one to

1047
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: get the Victor Cruz. I am a little you know,

1048
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: worried or not worried, But every year everyone says that

1049
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: this is the worst free agency class. It has been

1050
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: trending that way because I think teams have more cap

1051
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: ram so they keep their better players. So I think

1052
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: that's that's somewhat true. But there's gonna be values, there's

1053
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna be good players. I don't necessarily think it's it's

1054
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: gonna be way different up to teams though, to not

1055
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: get in these bidding wars for players that aren't worth it,

1056
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: do they have to kind of see what's happening here

1057
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: the trend wise that you're asking them to code, I'm

1058
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: asking them to Well, no, that sounds like that. I'm

1059
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: just how about we don't go pay you know, a

1060
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: right guard ten times more than he's worth if he's

1061
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: not that player. But with the teams will invariably do that.

1062
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: When I compiled this list in in previous years, right

1063
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: around fifty five sixty, you start getting to the point

1064
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: where you're like, these guys are all the same to me,

1065
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: and and nobody wants to sign any of them this year.

1066
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,479
Speaker 1: The cut off point, it's like thirty, Like these guys

1067
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: are crap. Makes the draft even more important. You gotta

1068
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: build through the draft. Mark big for you A lot

1069
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: of drafts. Why is it an offseason that for me?

1070
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: Because you don't even know if a draft works out

1071
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: until I get a lot of bucks and a lot

1072
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: of draft picks. The Cleveland Browns. It's all in front

1073
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: of him now. R G three could be a free agent.

1074
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: That's what happened. Put him on the jet. It all

1075
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: fired up about RG three on Twitter the other day

1076
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: because some Browns fans were apparently delusional enough to think

1077
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: that he could still be the answer behind the center. Yeah,

1078
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: it annoyed me just because RG three was one of

1079
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: the most impossible players to watch last season and the

1080
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: idea of going into another year with him as your quarterback,

1081
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: and that includes after what five months of like hyperbole

1082
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: and ridiculous comments and statements about what he is in

1083
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: the off season when you're throwing over a practice fence

1084
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: and hitting someone's house. I don't need any more of that.

1085
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: Let's get a real quarterback in there and get it done.

1086
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: If he it's a free agent list, Oh he could be.

1087
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: West would not allow it, but he could be. I

1088
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: might allow because saucy backup quarterback. That feels like a

1089
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: nice spot. I could. I could definitely see that. I mean,

1090
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: they're there are interesting names and players like the Patriots

1091
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: and the Packers, for instance, have a lot of free

1092
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: agents like Mark Tellis, Bennett and high Tower and Sheared

1093
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: and Logan Right like some of these guys they're gonna get.

1094
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: Hackers have seven or eight guys who are who are

1095
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: playing a lot. If you need a wide receiver, I

1096
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: think you can kind of find a wide Receiver's a

1097
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: lot of depth there this year. Kenny Britt, Pierre Garson,

1098
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills, and DaShan Jackson. I mean, these are guys

1099
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: who are going to be starting in starting lineups next year.

1100
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: Jets have no good free agents. That's a plus. It's

1101
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: because they have no good players. But that is that

1102
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: is that speak to something terrible and very chronic. I'm

1103
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: coming up on Mark's corner real fast. Do you want

1104
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: why is this a victory? That's something I want? I'm saying,

1105
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the reality of I can tell you

1106
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: it's a living hell. You're welcome to overtake this. This

1107
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: reminds me of the laborious um. It's the pain, rankings,

1108
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: debates over who had it worse. There was a lot,

1109
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: a lot of hurt. No, I don't know about hurt feelings,

1110
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: but a lot of debate back and forth between the

1111
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: fans who had it worse when you came out with

1112
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: the pain rankings. This is a phenomenon in sports, and

1113
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: it started with Bill Simmons, like waving the flag for

1114
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: how much pain you've gone through as an athlete. It's

1115
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: it's something that if if that's all you have, you

1116
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: at least want to be recognized for that. So like

1117
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: when I did those pain rankings a couple of summers ago,

1118
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: when and I think I had the Bills three or four,

1119
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: there was just fury from Bills fans. You can't do

1120
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: that to us because we know nothing but pain. Uh

1121
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: so you need to make us number one. Well, you

1122
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: know everybody has everyone has a case. Once you get

1123
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: to that really sad group of five or six teams,

1124
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: everyone has a really strong unless you're a Chargers fan

1125
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: who you didn't even put on the list, and now

1126
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: they don't even they would have had it. This would

1127
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: have put them onto the list, This would have taken

1128
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: them out at the top. Didn't you add them? After

1129
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: I was starting on a project over the summer, and

1130
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: then Falcons could get Ladanian Thomason to talk to me.

1131
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: So I just abandoned it. That's how these things go.

1132
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: And then I went on my summer vacation and I said,

1133
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: away we go. We're flying. All right, Falcons gonna be added.

1134
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: Now that's a that's all. THAT'SO A tricky thing. The

1135
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: teams that have some success makes some Super Bowls, do they?

1136
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: You know, that's another cover. You need to do a

1137
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: middle of the pack pain rankings. Don't get the most

1138
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: painful and don't get the best, just like sixteen to

1139
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: A lot of last month was packers fans saying, I

1140
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: know it's not conventional, it's not but who has suffered

1141
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: more than us? How I'm not listening to that. I

1142
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't hand out any blocks, but it

1143
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: was it was met with he's highly absurd. Yeah, the

1144
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 1: the idea you could do would be just the most

1145
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: forgettable teams in the middle of the pack rankings that

1146
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 1: would really annoy people, that would angry people, that would

1147
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: get maximum clicks. That's what the end around was looking for.

1148
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for today's show. Um, I think

1149
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: we promised three shows on Thursday, but I believe we're

1150
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: actually doing two shows. We pulled back the curtain in

1151
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: a retrospective was a mistake because we made promises that

1152
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: we probably aren't going to keep. We're only doing two

1153
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: shows this week, and that's the way it is. Listen

1154
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: to one of them twice, that adds up to three.

1155
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: There you go. So we will be back on Wednesday,

1156
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: UH with our second and final show of the week.

1157
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: But we promised to make it extra special just for you,

1158
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: even for you people suffering from the misso phony. I

1159
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: will UH. I have taken thank you, I have taken

1160
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: your Luther Campbell under advisement, and we will decide we

1161
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: might throw the whole drop out. Now you might do it, okay,

1162
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean that would be that would that would show

1163
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: a lot from That would be the most generous thing

1164
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: you've done since UH, you know, taking away your vengeance

1165
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: call on Derek Carr that he didn't know about. I

1166
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: didn't take it away. It's definitely indefinitely. I've halted it,

1167
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: but I do check in on it occasionally and he

1168
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: still is not unblockedly, but shout out to all I'm

1169
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: talking hundreds upon hundreds of UH listeners who have been

1170
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: hitting up Derek Carr. Keep doing it. Bary him for this.

1171
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: He deserves it. It's gonna have the negative effect for you,

1172
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: But do you know what, I don't care. Maybe that

1173
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: is my vengeance ultimately keep sending them out it maybe

1174
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: it will change his mind. We'll be back on Wednesday.

1175
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: Thanks to everyone for listening. Uh till then, this is

1176
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: Dan hands is signing off for the Quiet Storm, the Mailman,

1177
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, and new money behind the Glass. So Wednesday.

1178
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: Ms Aphonia, ms aphonia, ms aphonia, ms aphonia, ms aphonia,

1179
01:01:54,160 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: ms aphonia. John I Ruse Bird, John I Ruse Bird, Missophonia, Missophonia, Missophonia, missophonia,