1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: a paranormal podcast network where we offer you podcasts of 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: the supernatural and the unexplained. Getting ready now for Shades 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Schamplain. Welcome to our podcast. 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: Please be aware of the thoughts and opinions expressed by 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: the host are their thoughts and opinions only and do 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: not reflect those of I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast, am employees of Premier Networks, or their 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage you to 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: do your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi. 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Schamplain. For almost twenty five years, I've been 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 13 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so 15 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Music is 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: so important to our mind, our bodies and spirits. But 17 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: did you know it can also help us connect to 18 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: the afterlife. This is interesting. The area of the brain 19 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: where music memories are stored are one of the last 20 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: faculties to go There's a documentary movie called Alive Inside 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: that you can find on YouTube that tracks the impact 22 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: of playing music to people with Alzheimer's or dementia. People 23 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: who seemed dead to the world become alive again and 24 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: their memories come back when they listen to music from 25 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: their favorite generation. Today, you'll meet two people. Ellen Wheelton, 26 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: who had a near death experience and is now a 27 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: music therapist. She has presented at major universities, retreats, medical facilities, 28 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: and conferences, and presents works ops on using music and 29 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: imagery as a tool to connect with something greater, recognize 30 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: our untapped potential, and discover how we can lead inspired, 31 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: content and harmonious lives. You can visit her website at 32 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: Wellness Music Therapy a dot com. Now you'll also meet 33 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: David Young, who has been nominated for Grammy Awards, who 34 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: has thousands of hours of music available in the world. 35 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: He's a master musician who many have claimed to be 36 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: connected with their loved ones while listening to his harmonious 37 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: and heavenly music. I'll even play some of that music 38 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: at the end. So first I'd like to say, Allen Wheelton, 39 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Well, thank you. It's 40 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: so nice to be here. Yeah, and let's find out 41 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: a little bit about you. You're coming to us today 42 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: from California, that's correct. I live just north of San Diego, 43 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: and I have a wellness practice here where goal in life, 44 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: as you already mentioned, is to help others connect to 45 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: their higher self and to connect to the other side, 46 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: and my near death experience is part of that. So 47 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: I have a private practice here, and I also work 48 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: globally with people and and go to conferences and help 49 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: educate others how to do this for themselves. Pretty great. 50 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to hearing more about that. But let's 51 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: go way back in time, and you want to tell 52 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: us about being a kid and then what happened? And yes, 53 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: I was a normal child growing up, a normal girl. 54 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: Loved horses and love to ride. And when I was 55 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: twelve years old, I went to my first Western lesson. 56 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: I had ridden English for so long, so I went 57 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: to my first Western lesson. And it turns out they 58 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: didn't tighten the scent enough when I was riding, and 59 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: the scent slipped and I was riding for a while 60 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: underneath the horse fell off. The horse and then it 61 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: reared up and kicked me in the temple, in the 62 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: right temple. I was taken to a local hospital Hillsboro, Texas, 63 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: which is near to where I lived at the time, 64 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: and was found that I was in a coma. So 65 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: then I was taken to Waco Hospital in the Dallas 66 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Fort Worth the area and and given a team of doctors, 67 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: one of which who had worked on JFK. Oddly enough, 68 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: but I was in the coma for five days and 69 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: my parents were told to try and inspire my brain 70 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: to kind of have some stimulation by playing movies and 71 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 1: things like that. And that part of the story comes 72 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: back later because they were playing my childhood favorite movies, 73 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: Disney movies at my bedside and home movies and things. 74 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: But it was from that point that I went into 75 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: my near death experience and was taken to the other side. 76 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: Do you go on? Thank you? So basically I found 77 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: myself on a raft and the raft was wooden and 78 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: was floating on kind of what I would call pink clouds, 79 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: and in front of me was who I knew to 80 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: be Jesus, because that's the faith that I grew up in. 81 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: On my left, there was a man who was young 82 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: and thin and bald with long brown robes, and I 83 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: didn't know who he was, but he felt familiar and 84 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: comfortable and safe to me, almost as if he were 85 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: protecting me. And I was on this space with them 86 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: and felt completely loved just before moving into this place 87 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: of light. So I went from the raft into this 88 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: place of being surrounded by white light but also colors 89 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: and imagine like wonderful beautiful colors all around, music playing. 90 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: And then that was short lived because at some point 91 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: I felt this light around my body, which wasn't my 92 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: real body but was my light body. It felt warm 93 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: and weighted and beautiful and kind of like a comforting hug, right, 94 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: And then I just melted into and became the love. 95 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Everything else went away, and I was just comple lately 96 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: one with this light, in this love. And it was 97 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: the most beautifully profound experience of of my life. But 98 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: I can't even say it was an experience I had 99 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: in my life, because it was an otherworldly experience. I 100 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: don't know how long I was there, I don't know 101 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: how long I was connected, but I was taken back 102 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: to the wrath, and it was on that raft that 103 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: I was connected with so much information about not only 104 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: my path, but our path as humans and why we're here. 105 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: And then I could see the trajectory of my parents 106 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: and my family. And after receiving all this information, which 107 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: i'll go into detail with you later, we can talk 108 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: about that. In a moment, I was given the choice 109 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: that I could either stay there or I could live, 110 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: and I remember on some level wanting to stay because 111 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: I loved the connection and the love and everything else disappeared. 112 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: All my human worries about everything didn't matter right, and 113 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: I recognized on that raft that they didn't matter anyway, 114 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: that so much that we think about and spend our 115 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: time giving energy to is not what it's about. It 116 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: was then that I was taken into a transformative immersive 117 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: music experience because I chose to stay and to come back, 118 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: and I remember telling them I want to use music 119 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: for healing. It's kind of I communicated through my mind 120 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: and I explained I want to be a healer. And 121 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: it was at that moment that I felt an overwhelming 122 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: surge of gratitude that I got to come back and 123 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: I got to live, and I knew that it was 124 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: a gift, and I knew that I had something to 125 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: give and I knew I had purpose, and that's when 126 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: I was taken back into the darkness. But the darkness 127 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: that I went into was a warm darkness, a comforting darkness. 128 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: And I saw a music staff in the distance. It's 129 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 1: just the staff, and every note was a different color 130 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: on the staff, and I could see the notes moving 131 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: that I couldn't hear anything, so I just watched it, 132 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: and it got closer and closer and closer, bigger and bigger, 133 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: until I kind of moved through the staff and it 134 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: was gone. But then in its place was a very 135 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: very faint sound, almost inaudible, almost like a little pin 136 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,119 Speaker 1: prick of light on the kind of down I point 137 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: to the lower right. That's where I kind of visualize it, 138 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: tiny pin prick, and I focused so hard on that music. 139 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: I just pulled it in as much as I could. 140 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: It came into my mind until it was booming in 141 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: my head, and I opened my eyes and there I 142 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: was in the ICU. A nurse came running over, and 143 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: then I slipped back out of consciousness. But the next 144 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: thing I remember was I was being moved to a 145 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: regular bed. They were calling it a miracle. They said 146 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: that no other person in the state of Texas had 147 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: ever survived that type of head injury at that state 148 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: that I was in, other than one other child. She 149 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: was fourteen, but she was disabled for life. And then 150 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: I knew. I knew that everything all the information I 151 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: received on that raft, which was that we all have purpose. 152 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much to it, and I'll talk 153 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: about that, but and now I live. Everything that I 154 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: do has to go back to that experience. Does it relate, 155 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: does it connect to that experience on the other side, 156 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: And how can I help others connect to that as well? 157 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: Pretty amazing? And did you like music as a kid 158 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: before all the time? I did. I played piano. My 159 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: mom was a piano teacher for some time, and I 160 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: played piano and I played the flute, which was my 161 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: main instrument. I threw myself into music as I recovered 162 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: because I did have some you know, word retrieval issues. 163 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: Other than that, it was completely normal. But I threw 164 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: myself into music. That was my outlet. And then I 165 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: became a music therapist. I knew that all I had 166 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: to do was figure out how I could use music 167 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: to help others. Pretty amazing. This is a world I 168 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: don't know too much about So I'm going to let 169 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: you lead the dance, okay, with your information, and let 170 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: me just ask how clear is that memory today of 171 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: what happened in your twelve It's the most vivid memory 172 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: I have in life. I lost all the memories before 173 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: my head injury. So I remember them telling me that 174 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: it was some form of amnesia, and they said, because 175 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: it's unusual for someone to wake up from a comma 176 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: and not have any memory. No birthdays, no first day 177 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: of school, no family. So it was a concern. And 178 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: I remember they said, whatever you'll get back, you'll get 179 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: back in the first five years, and then after that 180 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: you won't get your memory back. So I had maybe 181 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: five memories come through. My family would try to show 182 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: me home videos, it would just not bring anything back. 183 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: But I had a sense of people and what that 184 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: gave me. I could see my family member and feel 185 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: their love and intuitively know that they were loving and 186 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: that I loved them, and it helped me to really 187 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: be able to intuitively understand people without having to know 188 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: their name or their story. Um and so yeah, so 189 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: that's kind of where it led me into this place 190 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: of you know, living through music and feeling the music 191 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: and living in the music and helping others to use 192 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: it as a tool for connecting to something greater. Would 193 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: you like to hear more about what I learned on 194 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: the raft when I was communicating with Jesus. Okay, I'd 195 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: love to tell you about that, And I'd love to 196 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: tell you about who the other figure was on the 197 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: raft with me, because I figured that out later in 198 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: life as well, and it was pretty profound. So as 199 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: I was there on the raft, there's so many things 200 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: came into my knowing. I could have been there for 201 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: a day, I could have been there for a million years, 202 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: and I it's so much information, But I remember knowing 203 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: that every person here has a purpose, everyone has a plan. 204 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: We are divinely guided and lead, and our goal is 205 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: to surrender to that and trust that and have faith, 206 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: and also to connect with our higher selves so that 207 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: we are living in the greatest good. And I remember 208 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: again recognizing that all the things that we spend our 209 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: mind thinking about, like we spend our time thinking about 210 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: on earth, all these worries, and because scerns and stresses 211 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: and fears, they actually get in the way of living 212 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: our purpose in our life. And I remember thinking when 213 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: I came out in my comment I was living again. 214 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: I would have these thoughts and they would come into 215 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: my head, you know, maybe fear or unworthiness, and I 216 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: would instantly know how to let it go and it 217 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: didn't matter and it was false. And I lived in 218 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: that knowing for so long. And I think that in 219 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: this time especially, people will have these fears and they 220 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: will hold them back because as we connect fear with thoughts, 221 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: we actually create more of that in our lives because 222 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: what we think is our reality. So that was a 223 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: really big piece for me. Also, this living in gratitude 224 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: was a huge part. Ellen. We need to take a 225 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: quick break and when we come back, we'll have you 226 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: continue about the power of gratitude and also about music 227 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: being healing. 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New shows are at it each week. 247 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: So find out how to access the art Bell Vault 248 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,479 Speaker 1: now by going to Coast to Coast a M dot com. 249 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: That's Coast to Coast am dot com. Welcome back to 250 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and we are 251 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: with Allen Wheelton. She's talking about her near death experience. Ellen, 252 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: you're just sharing about learning on the other side, the 253 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: power of gratitude. I came out knowing that every night 254 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: as I went to sleep, I needed to give thanks 255 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: for this opportunity to be here. Where there is gratitude, 256 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: there's no room for fear, there's no room for hate 257 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: or discord. It is all love. And that's when we 258 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: really feel that, and we feel the expansion of our 259 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: heart and we give complete gratitude for getting to be here. 260 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: That is when we are truly connecting to the higher 261 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: self and to source. So that was another big piece 262 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: I recognize and have since had many messages. I've been 263 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: working with what I call angelic angelic or light beings 264 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: ever since I came out of my coma. I will 265 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: I will see them places and around people and informations 266 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: and their comfort and the guidance that they give is 267 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: true and real that we really are protected and guided. 268 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: And I bring those into my workshops as well, where 269 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, animal meaning may come through for people, or 270 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: um angels may come through light beings, and it's just 271 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: beautiful to be able to witness that because I'm not 272 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: the answer to your problem or anyone's problem or anyone's concerns, 273 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: but I can hopefully provide a tool where you can 274 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: connect to your higher self, because your higher self is 275 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: the only one that can answer for you. And I 276 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: think a lot of times we get caught in our thoughts. 277 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: And what my goal is is to help people just 278 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: quiet the mind, move out of the mind, move into 279 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: the body, connect with a light, feel the vibration of 280 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: the singing bowls or the music, feel the frequency of 281 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: the plants medicine that we use, and just use it 282 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: to kind of reconnect with that frequency, and when we 283 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: are truly in it, we can answer our own concerns 284 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: and issues. Right. That's kind of where I go with 285 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: my work. But what was fascinating to me was that 286 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: I recognized the man on my left. When I went 287 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: to college, I chose to go to a Buddhist university 288 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: named Naropa. It's in Boulder, Colorado. They had a counseling 289 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: program that was immersive in meditation and Buddhist philosophies, but 290 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: it was an accredited program for transpersonal counseling. And when 291 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: I was there, walking up to my meditation class, starting 292 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: to learn about being present in the moment, I saw 293 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: a picture of a young, thin Buddha in brown robes. 294 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't remember if it was an artist depiction or 295 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: if it was I don't know. What it was or 296 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: where it came from, who who created it. But I 297 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: recognized him right away and I said, that was that's Buddha. 298 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: Buddha was in my near death experience. And then I 299 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: felt like I had come full circle because I was 300 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: getting validation that I was on the right path. And 301 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: the more that I work in this world, the more 302 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: validation comes through. The more that I see Buddha and 303 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: Buddha and Jesus come to me an angel in my meditations. 304 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: It's just profound and beautiful, and I'm so thankful that 305 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: I have the ability to get to do this on 306 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: this plane. It's just such a gift. And what's really 307 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: powerful about calling this the near death experience is the 308 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: feeling that you get the remembering, which is another piece 309 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: of the puzzle. That we have opportunities all of us. 310 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: Whether you've had a near death experience, or you learned 311 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: through the stories of others, or you have a spiritually 312 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: transformative experience in breathwork or music and imagery or crystal 313 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: bulls or a dream right or a deep meditation, we 314 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: have opportunities where we can remember our purpose and who 315 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: we are. And even if we don't know the purpose, 316 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: if we tap in regularly to our greater presence, our 317 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: higher presence, which is always inside of us. We hold 318 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: that source energy within our human form. We hold that 319 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: love and that beauty. So if we can tap into 320 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: that in whatever way we can, through whatever process we find, 321 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: then we can live in more purpose, and more things 322 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: will start to open up and develop and come to 323 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: us and help us grow, and will grow through abundance 324 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: of love and purpose and career. It's just phenomenally beautiful. 325 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: So many times we talk about afterlife and and things 326 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: like that, and so we want to believe, and part 327 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: of us trusts there's a bigger picture. But how can 328 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: we build that bridge to this higher self, this light 329 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: being that's within. For me, it started with simple meditation 330 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: and focusing on the breath, but sometimes people need more 331 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 1: of an anchor to really connect. So what I'll do 332 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: and my my daily practice is this. And it started 333 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: out very simple, and it took work at first for 334 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: me to call in on my higher self, But now 335 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: I find that it's just easier to live in that 336 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: space because I practiced it so often. So I practice 337 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: the practice of meditation with letting go of negative thoughts, 338 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: letting go of thoughts and just being present. That's one thing. 339 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: When I really need to raise my vibration and I 340 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: don't have my music that I can play right then, 341 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: or I don't have time, I will breathe in a 342 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: high frequency essential oil, which is part of my business 343 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: as well um and I will allow it to anchor 344 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: in the limbic brain because certain oils can move directly 345 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: into the amygdala and they can stay in the brain 346 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: for two weeks. So if you anchor it with intention, 347 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: not only does it raise your spiritual by ration, Like 348 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: my favorite is transformation oil, that's or highest potential. As 349 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: I breathe it in, I call in my higher self. 350 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: You can do this in a meditation as well. But 351 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: I'll call in my higher self and I will imagine 352 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: the energy of my soul body and where it is, 353 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: and usually it's massively huge. Right, I'm a tiny point. 354 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: My human body is a tiny point when connected to 355 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: my soul body. Imagine the expansion of my soul body. 356 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: I imagine expansion of my heart as I breathe in 357 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: the oil. And then I just call in and ask questions, 358 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: where would you have me go? What would you have 359 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: me do? What would you have me say into him, 360 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: and with those questions, and I place oils on my feet. 361 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: Where would you have me go? On my heart? What 362 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: would you have me do? On my wrist and my throat? 363 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: What would you have me say? And then I do 364 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: release a surrender on the top of my head, in 365 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: the back of my head and to him. So I 366 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: have that ritual twice a day. Has pretty much change 367 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: anged my human life even more so, like now I'm 368 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: living in my spiritual path, So that would be an 369 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: easy thing that people could do. And even if you 370 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: don't have the oils, just sitting and asking those questions 371 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: and calling in your higher self will bring great insight 372 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: and wisdom. You sound like you found your passion. Yes, absolutely, 373 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: And I, like others, have moments of unworthiness and fear 374 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: that come in. But one thing I'm constantly reminded of 375 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: is that we can shape our existence through our thoughts. 376 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: So I have this funny little practice where if I 377 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: have a negative thought or fear based thought, because I'm 378 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: also a mother, and you know, as you have children, 379 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: you watch them grow, you want to protect them from 380 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: hurt and pain. But I'll have these fear thoughts come in, 381 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: and I have this little practice of imagining that their butterflies, 382 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: or pick them from my head and just throw them 383 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 1: out the window. And my kids make fun of me 384 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: because they're like, Mom, what are you doing? And I'm like, well, 385 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing that thought out because I don't need 386 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: it and I don't have space for something like that, 387 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: and I don't want that to come into reality, right, 388 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: so I send it out for me. What I do 389 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: is trying to bring in all of these different practices, 390 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: the sound, the frequency of the oils, the frequency of 391 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: the vibration, and then the own power of the mind, 392 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: like the innate power of our mind. When we're in 393 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: a deep state of relaxation and we're imagining a scenario, 394 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: our body responds as if it's real. Our heart levels 395 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: become more regular, cortisol levels go down, in the blood 396 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: dress markers go down. So really, just whatever we can 397 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: use to really connect the brain with intention and visualization, 398 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: that is the key to everything. I love it. I 399 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: want to ask you Allen about your beliefs in the 400 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: afterlife and could any of this be utilized connecting to 401 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: the unseen world? Oh on set one. I've seen people 402 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: in my workshops and I have private sessions where when 403 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: people get into that space, they actually are connecting to 404 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: something similar to what I connected to. And I remember 405 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: the first time I experienced music and imagery. There's something 406 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: called the Bonnie method of guided imagery and music. It's 407 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: a very deep, transformative process that takes you into a 408 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: slightly altered state, but you stay connected to present time 409 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: through the music and the structure of the music, and 410 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: you stay in your unconscious experience because you're deeply relaxed 411 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: and trusting in the practitioner. Now, the first time I 412 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: experienced this was the first time I was reconnected to 413 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: what I felt like when I was in heaven. It 414 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: was a glimpse of it. It was and I call 415 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: it a glimpse of heaven because it was beautiful and encompassing, 416 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: and I was surrounded by love and light. And so 417 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: when I experienced that, I realized, this is it. This 418 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: is the way that I'm going to help people experience 419 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: what I experience. They can find their own answers, and 420 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: then at each level of the journey. In the past 421 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: twenty years, I have just added other elements that deepen 422 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: the practice and people can have this experience of connecting 423 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: their higher stuff I met with someone this morning in 424 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: a session, and she was taken into the clouds, reconnected 425 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: with her higher self, and given guidance about what she 426 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: needs to do to live in her purpose. And that 427 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: is absolutely yes, you can totally be taken there. Sometimes 428 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: people are taken into the universe and they're one with 429 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: the stars. I'm at people feel like they've been lifted 430 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: from their bodies, their soul body reconnects. It's absolutely possible 431 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: and wonderful. Do you have stories of people that have 432 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: said that they've seen their loved ones? Certainly we all, yes, 433 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: you can share a little bit. It happens every single 434 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: time I do a workshop, every single time. What's interesting 435 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: about this work is that not only as we meet 436 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: in groups, not only do people see loved ones that 437 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: have passed that have messages that are late to their 438 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: intention and what they want to bring, but also people 439 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: have similar experiences. So I've had sessions where one instance 440 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: was his dog, where there was a little One person said, 441 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: I saw a little white dog with a red bow 442 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: around its neck, and it was kind of fluffy and 443 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: it looked like a little I don't know what kind 444 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: of dog it looked like. And the man next her 445 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: started crying, and the woman next to him started crying, 446 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: and he said, that's my dog. She passed away last week. 447 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: And she came to me too, and the another woman said, 448 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: I saw the dog in my imagery too. Yeah. Then 449 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: loved ones come through, and those are more what I 450 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: call transpersonal experiences, where people move into working through issues 451 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: without having to think about it, without having to know 452 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: what's going on. They're just guided and led by something 453 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: bigger and um. I've had people their grandmother's come through 454 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: where they haven't seen in a while, or their or 455 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: their mother or their child, and it's just so sacred 456 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: and beautiful to be able to hold space for at 457 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't happen every time, and sometimes it takes repeated 458 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: practice where the trust can really be built and the 459 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: practice can be developed. But yes, all every single session 460 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: I do now, and it was not always that way. 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Ellen, 498 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, out of all the interviews, 499 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: this is very different. It's very different. It's it's very different, 500 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: and I think that's indicative of how unique we can be. 501 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: Where people tend to shy away from wanting to create 502 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: their own path because it may be different, or look 503 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: different or feel different to others. But in reality, our 504 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: gift is our difference. Our gifts is our uniqueness. So 505 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,239 Speaker 1: how can we bring our gifts into our purpose and 506 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: make it something that no one's ever done or heard 507 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: of before, right, But not a little bit about purpose, 508 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people are looking for 509 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: their purpose. I think that when you have something that 510 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: keeps you up at night because it is so it 511 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: just takes up so much of your mind and heart space, 512 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: that is one way to know. But another way to 513 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: know is simply by surrendering to source and seeing what comes. 514 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: And I know that sounds really ambiguous, but I find 515 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: that if something is meant to be in an alignment 516 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: with my purpose and feels like I'm doing good for others, 517 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: if it just starts to unfold, I know it is 518 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: right and it takes a lot of trust, and I 519 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: have that because of my own experience. But I would 520 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: ask people to ask those questions, where would you have 521 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: me go, what would you have me do? What would 522 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: you have me say into whom? And if you're living 523 00:29:53,160 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: in a space in your career where you feel constricted, restricted, dark, cold, 524 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: I would say, you're not living in your purpose. So 525 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: what can you do? What can you change? What can 526 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: you make space for? Because sometimes we're so stuck in 527 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: our day to day and we're using our career as 528 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: our was thinking we have to stay there. It takes 529 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: up all of our time and energy, and the universe 530 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: has nowhere to give, nothing to give, because there's no 531 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: room for it. We all want to believe that we 532 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: have a higher self and that we can connect with it. 533 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: And I know about quieting the mind and journaling and 534 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: things like that, but you're giving us a new way 535 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: to look at it. And I never really thought about 536 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: with frequencies, with the weather, singing goals and the essential oils, 537 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: and it's just like wow, new stuff. Yeah, it is. 538 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: It is. And you know at the core of every 539 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: cell inside right ourselves, you think it's space, but guess what, 540 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: it's vibration. We vibrate. Everything living on this planet vibrates 541 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: out of frequency. And to leave that part out of 542 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: who we are, because you know, that was another thing 543 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: I was shown. We are light beings. We are vibratory 544 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: light beings that are here for a reason. We are 545 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: here for a purpose, every single one of us and 546 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: living in a different trajectory. And I was even kind 547 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: of given the message that we choose our life and 548 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: our families based on how much we can help others 549 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: in this lifetime. And that's a little bit of an 550 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: interesting idea, right, that we actually choose our parents because 551 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: we may have a story to tell, and we have trauma, 552 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: and our life story may be moving through that trauma, 553 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: but also about helping others through that trauma and where 554 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: we can go with it. Right, So, and I wanted 555 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: to say also before I forget that on my Instagram 556 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: and then on my Facebook page, if you just look 557 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: at my name, Ellen Wheelson, even if we're not connected 558 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: as friends, I have some public singing bowl experiences where 559 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: you can, you know, listen in and participate if you 560 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: want to get a glimpse of my work. I love it. 561 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm on it. I also have a Facebook community for 562 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 1: people who want to learn more about music therapy and 563 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: essential oils and they're interested in frequency, and that's on Facebook. 564 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: Let's just wrap this up a little bit about gratitude, 565 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: because I feel very grateful right now. But I'm assuming 566 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: gratitude is something that raises that frequency. Oh absolutely raises 567 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: our frequency. I have found that the practice of gratitude 568 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: is the most profoundly spiritually transformative process that we can 569 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: tap into day to day. You can feel the swelling 570 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: of your heart if you're really living in gratitude. There's 571 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: just no space for anything else. It's profoundly beautiful. I 572 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: had read a book called The Magic by the Rhonda 573 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: Burne who wrote The Secret, and it was a twenty 574 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: eight day gratitude practice and morning, noon, and night. There 575 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: was something to be grateful for and things to write down, 576 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: but the key was you really had to feel it. Yes, 577 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 1: and no kidding, Ellen, stuff started happening in my life 578 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: that I could only call miraculous, and I thought, what 579 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: is going on? And you know, there's all kinds of 580 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: people rite testimonials. And then this was a couple of 581 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: several years ago, and I shared it with some friends 582 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: and they got the book or downloaded it and they 583 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: started doing it, and they started reporting all these wild, 584 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: wonderful things that were happening. Now, what's interesting is knowing 585 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: that and doing it are two different things. It really 586 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: takes something as a human being two say Okay, I'm 587 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: gonna do this. I'm going to make this a practice. 588 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,959 Speaker 1: But then you know it does the results can be 589 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: really outrageous. Well, you know, for the past three years, 590 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: we've been leading these Abundance Challenge with my team. I 591 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: have a team of light workers and music therapists and 592 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: therapist and acupunctures. We all come together usually through plant 593 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: medicine and through the oils. That's kind of how we connect. 594 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: And we've been using these meditative practices and abundance well. Interestingly, 595 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: you cannot manifest abundance without gratitude. So there's an oil 596 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: called gratitude where they measured the frequency of the human 597 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: body when it was grateful and then found a blend 598 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: of plants that match that frequency. So we use that 599 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: with journaling and feeling of the gratitude and then paired 600 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: it with the abundance piece of I am abundant, I'm 601 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: financially abundant, or whatever we say. We say affirmations multiple 602 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: times a day with the abundance oil. But what's really 603 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: fascinating that you tapped into here is that you need 604 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: to pair the feeling with a thought. That's how we 605 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: manifest things here. And I remember receiving that message as well, 606 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: that when you pair a thought with a feeling, you 607 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: manifest it good or bad because you know sources always listening. 608 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: And so like you said, you were pairing the thought 609 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: with the feeling and you were able to bring more 610 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: gratitude into your life. And more good things and more abundance. 611 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure right, yes, because that so that I imagine 612 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: that you were bringing in a lot of amazing abundant 613 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: things at that point. It was great. And you know, 614 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: it's silly that I ever stopped, but I just got 615 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: back into the day to day life and so easy 616 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: to forget these things. But you know, I tell people, 617 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: and I believe this, I don't practice a seven but 618 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: when we cross this finish line called life and there 619 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: we are in the afterlife whatever you want to call it, heaven, 620 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: we're still souls. And you know, you think about communicating 621 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: through thought and all these wonderful things that they can 622 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: do in the afterlife, but it's like we're souls now, 623 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: and like you say, our soul is so much bigger 624 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: than our little body. I mean, we it can really extend, 625 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: and so we do have these powers if you want 626 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: to call them available. You know, we do have time, 627 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: so things might not happen in a blink of the eye. 628 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: But like you saying, pair the feeling with the thought, 629 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: and you know, be careful what you wish for exactly. Yeah, 630 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: just can you imagine if a hundred years ago we 631 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: told people you're going to have these little boxes that 632 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: you put in your pocket where you can call someone 633 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: on the other side of the world and see their picture. 634 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: No one would ever have believed that, right, So what 635 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: else is possible? Right? I mean, we limit ourselves and 636 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: our thoughts and what we think is impossible. That was 637 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: the other message, another big one on the wrap. We 638 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: are capable of so much more than we even can conceive, 639 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: so much more we don't realize the power that we 640 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: hold and able to create our future. I'm writing it down. Well, Ellen, 641 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: it's been a delight talking to you today you as well. 642 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You're welcome any closing words, and 643 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: then I'll say a few things. I would just say 644 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: to practice daily connecting with your higher self and asking 645 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 1: guidance daily. You know, where can I go? What can 646 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: I do? What can I say? You know? I think 647 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: those are just crucial and I think I learned them 648 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: from Mary and Williamson. Right, But just constantly be checking 649 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: in and connecting because you're so much bigger than your 650 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: human form. Oh, thank you so much, thank you, thank you, 651 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: thank you. And you can find out more about Ellen 652 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: on well Miss music Therapy dot com or Facebook and Instagram. 653 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: And people are interested in learning more, they can always 654 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: email me at Wellness Music Therapy at yahoo dot com. Okay, 655 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: and I'm very active on Facebook on the Music Therapy 656 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: an Essential oils group. 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Welcome back 701 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and we're 702 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: talking about music and frequencies and vibration and the afterlife 703 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: and healing all sorts of things. Next, I want to 704 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 1: introduce you to musician David Young, who has two Grammy 705 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: nominations sold over a million c ds. His music is 706 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: absolutely heavenly. There's over twenty thousand healers and healing centers 707 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: that use his music every day, and people including myself 708 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,240 Speaker 1: have claimed to experience the in between in between heaven 709 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: and Earth by listening to his music. He actually played 710 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: at one of my We Don't Die Live events and 711 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: I think you really enjoy hearing this and at the 712 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: end will play a clip of his music so you 713 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: can see just what it is that we're talking about. Hello, David, 714 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Thank you so much. 715 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: Nice to be here with you. Oh nice to have 716 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: you too. And I've heard your music and it's heavenly 717 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: it's an understatement, if that can even be said. It's 718 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: just really fantastic. So thank you for your love of 719 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: music and your love of wanting to share it. You're welcome. 720 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: I started playing when I was a kid on third 721 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: grade and I was the worst in my class and 722 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: third grade, but we got a second year of the recorder. 723 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: That was the instrument that we all were given. And 724 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,919 Speaker 1: I got the hang of it in the second year 725 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: and then I really caught on with it. And you know, 726 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: I've made a whole career from playing the recorder. I know. 727 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: I mean it's incredible. I mean, I think that's a 728 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: lot of us kids started playing. But it's more than that, 729 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: because you know, if you see a great work of art, 730 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: like a painting or something, or you hear great poetry, 731 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: you know it's like divinely inspired. Your music to me 732 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 1: is that? So can you give us just a little 733 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 1: bit more of your background, besides just being a kid, 734 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: how the passion for music started? And is it just 735 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: the recorder? I know that's I know the answer to this, 736 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: but I want you to lane. And was there like 737 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: a I don't want to say a divine pull, but 738 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: kind of that you just knew this was right. Well, 739 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: I've recorded sixty different albums of music, of which fifty 740 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: of those are instrumental music where the recorder is the 741 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: main instrument. And then there's ten albums I have that 742 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: I sing and play guitar with positive songs. And you 743 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: mentioned before we started that you're a long time meditator 744 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: and that you did some events, right, Yes, so I've 745 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: been meditating for thirty about thirty four years when I 746 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: started doing these events, and you know, I wanted people 747 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: to open their mind and just allow their logical mind 748 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: to get out of the way, because most people think 749 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: that their logical mind is their intelligence. But our logical 750 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 1: mind is just what we've agreed to accept that everybody 751 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: else has agreed to accept. So if you were living 752 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 1: five hundred years ago, all the people had a need 753 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: to accept that the world was flat, and you could 754 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 1: actually be put in jail if you said the world 755 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: was round. So the same thing is true with people 756 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: understanding that there's life after this life, because in the 757 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,760 Speaker 1: last you know, in the last fifteen years, the whole 758 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,760 Speaker 1: idea of people having a near death experience has really 759 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: come out into the public, and you know, the most 760 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: popular books on the New York Times bestseller lists are 761 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: books about people having near death experiences, like Dr Even 762 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: Alexander's book Proof of Heaven and sold over six million copies. So, 763 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: you know, I would talk to people about different things 764 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: that I had learned spiritually, and the night start playing 765 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: the flute and I play for five minutes, and when 766 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: the meditation was over, people came back into their bodies. 767 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: I asked if anybody had anything that they'd like to share, 768 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: and there were five people at that first event who 769 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: all shared that they had reconnected with one of their 770 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: loved ones, could be a grandmother or a mom, or 771 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: a dad, or a friend from child too who had 772 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: died young. And people explained this like it was the 773 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: most normal thing ever and they were really happy to 774 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: have that experience. Some people were channelers and so they 775 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: were familiar with the idea of having that type of experience, 776 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: but many people were not channelers and were just incredibly 777 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: surprised to find out that this was possible. Well, the 778 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 1: funny thing about this is that I didn't know this 779 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: was possible when I was playing the flute at these meditations. 780 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: So when the first five people shared inside my mind, 781 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 1: I was going, I can't believe what these people are saying. 782 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: I never experienced anything like that. I didn't even think 783 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: it was possible, And I thought that being skeptical of 784 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: something like that showed people that I was intelligent. That's 785 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 1: a problem that many people have, is that we're taught 786 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: about what is normal and what's not normal. But all 787 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: of these things that are based on normal are totally 788 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: connected to a time period, you know. I mean fifty 789 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: years ago, if somebody would have said we would have 790 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 1: a man walking on the moon, that would have sounded 791 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: like the most ridiculous thing. Ever, how would it be 792 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: possible for a man to walk on the moon. Let 793 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: me just ask, because I know from all these interviews 794 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: in my own meditation practice, there's definitely something available by 795 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: quieting the mind. But it's like, you bring it to 796 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: a whole another level. What do you think is in 797 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to say in your music but kind 798 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: of like that puts people in that zone for that connection. 799 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on that, because it's yeah, 800 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: I do, and it's it's actually a couple of things. Well, 801 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: when I play the two flutes at one time, the 802 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: two notes create what's called a tri harmonic tone, where 803 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: the two notes actually create a third note. I'm only 804 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: playing two flutes, but they create three different notes because 805 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 1: the harmony between the two of them creates this third note. 806 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: That's a frequency. Okay, it's not a physical thing, but 807 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: you can actually hear it now. In heaven, everything is 808 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: based on light, vibration and frequency. So when people have 809 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: a near death experience, they're seeing this inner light and 810 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: they're hearing these inner sounds, these heavenly sounds that are 811 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: a frequency. That frequency is the same frequency that my 812 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: two flutes create as the third note. Okay, so when 813 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: people hear me playing the two flutes at one time, 814 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: they've heard that frequency before when they had a near 815 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: death experience, because that's part of the experience you experience. 816 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,760 Speaker 1: The inner light and the inner sound, and the inner 817 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: sound is this frequency in the vibration, and that's what 818 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 1: I create my music now. When I make my c 819 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: d s. I don't feel like my CDs are done 820 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: until I feel that inner peace that I have after 821 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: meditating for a half hour. Because the first ten minutes 822 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: that you're meditating, nothing good has happened. In the first 823 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,280 Speaker 1: ten minutes because your mind is so used to thinking 824 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: and planning and doing what your mind normally does, it 825 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: takes it. Yeah, being busy, it takes at least ten minutes, 826 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 1: sometimes fifteen minutes for your mind to settle down because 827 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: you it realizes that you're not giving it any any attention. 828 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: So eventually it quiets down and in the space between 829 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 1: your thoughts that's where you can receive messages. Because if 830 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 1: you had two radio stations playing, one by your left 831 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: ear and one by your right ear, you wouldn't be 832 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 1: able to benefit from anything you were hearing because you're 833 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,399 Speaker 1: hearing two different messages at one time. Likewise, when your 834 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: mind quiets down and gets out of the way, then 835 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: you start getting messages from spirit, and you know that's 836 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: when the good stuff happens. So if you meditate, I 837 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: would really advise people to not meditate with a clock 838 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: if you don't have to be anywhere. What David and 839 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: I would like to do now is play a few 840 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 1: minutes of his music. This is prerecorded. He's not playing 841 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: it live, but if you'd like to just close your 842 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: eyes and relax and just get into that zone. Of course, 843 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: it takes longer for the mind to quiet down, but 844 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: we just want to give you a taste. David's website 845 00:51:24,120 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: is David Young music dot com. Let's listen. Well, you 846 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: can't go wrong with any of the songs on his 847 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: website David Young music dot com. You can play just 848 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 1: about a sample of everything if you'd like. I want 849 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 1: to thank you for listening. I'm Sandra Champlain our home 850 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 1: basis we Don't Die dot com, wishing you a wonderful day. 851 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the 852 00:54:53,520 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Yea, 853 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: and if you like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, 854 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 1: wait until you hear the next one. Thank you for 855 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: listening to the Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM 856 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network.