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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles, who have the best personnel in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the best roster since probably about the Niners three years ago.

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Speaker 1: But the Eagles have a much better O line and

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Speaker 1: they're much better at quarterback. I don't know how Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: if they get to the Super Bowl, is going to

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Speaker 1: stop this. It's going to stop this offense they they today.

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Speaker 1: I mean Washington obviously helped multiple fumbles, three fumbles, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, here's how good Philadelphia's roster is. You forget

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Speaker 2: They have to.

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Speaker 1: Engineer jet sweeps and little clever misdirection plays to get

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Speaker 1: one on a dozen teams in the NFL, number one receiver.

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Speaker 1: You forget he's on the team. I mean, they have

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Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts makes just enough, just enough big throws

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Speaker 1: that you got to play him. Honest, he's he's I

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Speaker 1: think Jayden Daniels is better from the pocket. I think

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosel's been telling us all year, but he makes

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Speaker 2: It just this team is just insane.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about let's go back to the beginning

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Speaker 1: the time, it is this is as bad as GMing

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Speaker 1: worse than that. I always thought Reggie White to the Packers'

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Speaker 1: It's as bad as it gets, and you could see

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Speaker 1: There's just not much out there I've ever seen like it.

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Speaker 1: next decade if Jade Daniels stays healthy. Terry McLaurin sixteen

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Speaker 1: I think is well coached. Cliff Kingsbury, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: should remain in Washington. Several years, play out your contract

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Speaker 1: Before the draft, I was lucky. I had a really

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Speaker 1: I was told that Kingsbury was like, he's better than

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Speaker 1: the former Eagle scout John Middlkoff later. But that fourth

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Speaker 1: Just I mean, I'm you're watching the same thing I

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Speaker 1: am with Philadelphia. Sweet Jesus, is this roster insane? It

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Speaker 1: good night, you pick your poison.

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Speaker 1: I get the tush push, actually is you can at

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Speaker 1: the Commanders for remarkable season and drafting. What I believe

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Speaker 1: It has the most misses in the last twenty years.

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Speaker 1: But I think they're buttoned up now going forward.

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Speaker 2: Shows right well, and II.

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Speaker 3: Belichick did too, and they had twenty years of kicking

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Speaker 1: Show me the warm Weather or Dome team dynasty. If

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Speaker 1: go find me the great dynasties in warm Weather. Years ago,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's pivot to the Eagles fifty five The

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Speaker 1: Commander's twenty three. So I mean listen, I think I

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Speaker 1: And my take is, I think we just have to

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think, you know, it would be

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Speaker 3: special player. But I wrote down three guys because I

431
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 3: think there's a chance, if he stays healthy, he could

432
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: have this second kind of lease on life in the

433
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 3: NFL and become like a Hall of Fame guy. Now.

434
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: Curtis Martin, Jerome Bettis, and Marshall Falk were all guys

435
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 3: that like after their third or fourth year, Curtis Martin

436
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 3: went to the Jets, Bettis went to the Steelers and

437
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: Marshall Falk went to the Rams. Curtis Martin was really

438
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: good on the Patriots, and Marshall Falk was really good

439
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: on the Ramps right, and Jerome Bettis was solid. Now

440
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 3: I don't put Jerome Bettis quite on those two guys level,

441
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: but like Saquon, I would say most people described his

442
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 3: careers like, eh, it was kind of underwhelming. It just

443
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 3: wasn't going well. It wasn't his fault because you're watching

444
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 3: him on this team. How about the way that game opened.

445
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 3: They went like twenty five plays washing it on that

446
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: first drive, they got like seventeen fourth downs, and they

447
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: ended up kicking a field goal. And I saw Jeff

448
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 3: Schwartz tweet this out. He's like, God, it reminds me

449
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: a lot of Notre Dame. If that's what you have

450
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: to do to start a game and only get three points,

451
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a long game. The Eagles go one play,

452
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: he does like three to sixty, bounces off another guy

453
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: cuts it back for sixty five seventy yards. You're like, uh,

454
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 3: this does not feel It was insane that at one

455
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: point in time this game was fourteen to twelve.

456
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 2: Because after that.

457
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: Drive and then another early drive. You're like, this thing

458
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 3: could get out of hand, and Washington, and this where

459
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: Dan deserves credit, Jaden deserves credit, kept it kind of.

460
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 3: I mean twenty seven to fifteen at halftime. Yeah, it

461
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: probably should have been like forty to seven at halftime,

462
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 3: but Washington fought and then the wheels came off. But

463
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: when you have and this is where, when Jalen's healthy

464
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 3: and they have a running threat with the quarterback and

465
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 3: the running back, what are you really gonna do? I mean, Colin,

466
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 3: they ran for seven touchdowns today, ran for seven touchdowns

467
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,479
Speaker 3: and the two of them combined. I mean what Saquon

468
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: add he had two and Jalen had three.

469
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,479
Speaker 2: I mean, what are you gonna do?

470
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: The Eagles will never lose a game if they're getting

471
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Speaker 3: that type of production in the running game.

472
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Speaker 2: Ever, I want to talk about this. This was.

473
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Speaker 1: It's pretty remarkable, So let's talk about Let's give this

474
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Speaker 1: ten minutes, so it has to be the most embarrassing moment.

475
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: The Eagles have now been to eight NFC championships and

476
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Speaker 1: four Super Bowls since the Cowboys have been to one

477
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: conference championship. So Philadelphia is separated as franchise but the

478
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: Cowboys announced Brian Schottenneimer as the head coach on a

479
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: Friday night news dump, late, late, late Friday night.

480
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: Now it makes me believe.

481
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: That either Jerry Jones was caught completely flat footed by

482
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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy choosing to leave, or it's some sort of

483
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: plan to get the number one pick next year, because

484
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer is a nice guy, but he is a bounce

485
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: around the league, never really like getting opportunities at the

486
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: highest level. Jag Seattle can't really maintain jobs. I said

487
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: this the other day. Their lack of urgency on Dak's

488
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: contract crushed them, and their lack of urgency on hiring

489
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: a coach. It's hard to explain. I don't know how

490
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: to explain it.

491
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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty clear. You know Jerry Well, the

492
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 3: news dumps very telling, right. Jerry runs his franchise for

493
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: the last definitely the last fifteen twenty years like a

494
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: television show. He literally was just on one of the

495
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: more popular ones in the country. You can't tell me.

496
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: I mean, if Jerry liked the hire, he would have

497
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: put this thing out in the middle of the night

498
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: on Sunday or first thing Monday morning, so everyone talked

499
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: about him all week Friday night ten o'clock, not Friday

500
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: night ten o'clock Eastern. I mean this was late after

501
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: the country might have been asleep. I think he thought, Listen,

502
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: they knew coming into the season that Mike McCarthy was

503
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: on his contract was ending, so we all knew that.

504
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 3: We assumed Mike McCarthy was fired. And then Black Monday

505
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: came and Mike was not fired. We're like, well, clearly,

506
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 3: and people have been talking, maybe they're just gonna keep him.

507
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: Jerry thought he could just give him some fake two

508
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 3: year contract, like Mike, where the hell are you gonna go?

509
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 3: And pretty clear Mike might have misplaced his hand a

510
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 3: little too, because I think he thought he could get

511
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: the Bears job. Yeah, but I think Mike realized kind

512
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 3: of maybe halfway or toward the end of that week,

513
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: as he wanted Jason Witten on his staff, Jerry was

514
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: just gonna kind of bend him over, like, hey, Jerry,

515
00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 3: I've made a lot of money in the last few

516
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: fifteen years, Buddy, I don't need you, and I'm not

517
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: just gonna acquiesce to everything you want and basically told

518
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: him to kick rocks. And I think Jerry thought the

519
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: whole time he could essentially give him like a two

520
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: year contract. You know, think about this, Jerry just hired

521
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer. Jerry's kind of cheap, Like, that's one thing

522
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 3: that's pretty telling. Jerry's not these Ben Johnson, Mike Vrabel

523
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: making twelve, thirteen, fourteen. Mike McCarthy was making seven million

524
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: dollars right now. Granted he was hired five years ago,

525
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: but he was on a seven year, million dollars. That's

526
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Speaker 3: one of the lower paid coaches in the league. Would

527
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 3: you guess Brian Schottenheimer is making more than seven million dollars.

528
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: There's a decent chance that Brian Schottenheimer's the lowest paid

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Speaker 3: coach in the NFL. I think we know what Ben

530
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: Johnson makes. We know Pete Carroll ain't making seven We

531
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Speaker 3: know Bileam Cohen just got twelve or thirteen million dollars.

532
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 3: So Jerry's a little cheap. He misplayed his hand. And

533
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 3: you'd been saying this, and I've always defended Jerry a

534
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: little bit. He is really in his Al Davis phase now,

535
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: like they are. That was sometimes you fire a coach

536
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 3: whatever it's time, but go through that week and then

537
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: eventually break up with Mike McCarthy and end up a

538
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: week later with Brian Schottenheimer. And once upon a time,

539
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheim remember when he was Rex Ryan's OC and

540
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: they were with Mark Sanchez. He was like thirty seven,

541
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: thirty eight years old, he was viewed as a head coach.

542
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: That was fifteen years ago. Was the last time Brian

543
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 3: Schottenheimer had a head coaching interview? Has he had one

544
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: in a decade? Now? That's not the end all be all,

545
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: But why would you fire Mike McCarthy, who has accomplished

546
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 3: stuff and then hire his offensive coordinator who's not some

547
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: valued candidate, doesn't It doesn't make any sense.

548
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: He didn't even call plays. Yeah, McCarthy, you know, it's

549
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: not It's not below Jerry to actually make calls dissuading

550
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: people from hiring Mike McCarthy because Mike McCarthy suddenly was

551
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: a hot candidate. Now he's not even getting interviewed, and

552
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: he's clearly the best candidate on the market.

553
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: I mean, the Saints, what are the Saints going to do?

554
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: He'd obviously the best candidate is I think, you know,

555
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: and I've said this, if Lebron didn't go to the Lakers.

556
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: The Lakers are the Cowboys. They're just circling. I mean,

557
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: lebron Is literally saved the franchise. They were Kobe's last

558
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: five years. I think they're the worst win lost percentage

559
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 1: in the league. It could be wrong, but it was.

560
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: It was really bad. So it's just, you know, it's

561
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: just one of those things where it's not a coincidence

562
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: when people like Andy Reid are successful all the time.

563
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: It's not a coincidence when certain gms have good draft.

564
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: Classes over and over and over.

565
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: And I think that Dallas Cowboys the last couple of

566
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: draft classes have been a weak. I mean they've missed

567
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: on their their first I mean they hit on Ceedee

568
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: Lamb and Micah, but their last two first round picks

569
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: have been weak. They got worked by Dak Prescott again.

570
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: They're just they have really fallen to me, John and

571
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Speaker 1: I don't take any pleasure in saying this. They've become

572
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: a little like Cleveland. They're a little like the Jets.

573
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: They're not as chaotic, but they're they're really a second

574
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: tier franchise. Like they're they're not even and there, they

575
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: are not remotely close to a top five NFC roster.

576
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Speaker 2: Forget AFC, they're not there.

577
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: They could they could be the eighth, the ninth best

578
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: roster in the NFC.

579
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Speaker 3: Now, well, think about this. You just hit on. They

580
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: haven't been to the conference championship game since what ninety six?

581
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 3: The Eagles just since that foal So Foles and then

582
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: the last two Jalen have not only been to three,

583
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: they won them. I mean the last two they played

584
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: Minnesota with Foles, they blew them out. Jalen against the

585
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: Niners they knocked out Purty, blew them out. And tonight

586
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: they scored fifty five points. So they've been to three

587
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: super Bowls in the last what eight years? Seven years?

588
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: So you are in a different stratosphere than them. And

589
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: then Washington sells the team. They get a real coach,

590
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: a superstar quarterback, and a real GM and they're gonna

591
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: start lapping you. If I'm a Cowboy fan, Thank god

592
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: the Giants have their own issues or we would. It's

593
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: that night for a guy that knows just I mean,

594
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: one thing he's great about is getting people to talk

595
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: about his team. I mean, it's why he talks twice

596
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: a week. No other owner says a peep column. None

597
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: of them talk at all. It's not like they don't

598
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: have Biggie. They realize, what's the point, Why am I

599
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: going to say a word? Most gms? Do you notice

600
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: how many gms come on your television show throughout the

601
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: year sparingly here and there, But they let the coach

602
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: and the players talk during the season, right, it's not

603
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: their time. Jerry talks twice a week, sometimes three times.

604
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: And I don't blame anyone from talking to him because

605
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: he gives you incredible quotes. But that's not a healthy

606
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: way to operate. It's just not And I thought that

607
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: it was overblown a little bit when remember when the

608
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: story came out, Dak said, they have fans walking around

609
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: the facility. But once you start losing, you start going. Well,

610
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: where Jerry's priorities right now? It's like, does he just

611
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: want to save some money here with Brian Schottenheim or

612
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: did he get into a situation that he never thought

613
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: he'd be in and then didn't know who to talk to.

614
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: Of course, Dion wasn't that interested. He's Dean, doesn't answer

615
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: to anyone in Colorado. Jerry tell him everything to do.

616
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: That is the other you go work for the Cowboys,

617
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: like you listen Woody Johnson. These days bug you with

618
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: dumb ideas. Jerry's literally telling you, like who to play

619
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: when to play him, you know, like football, like he

620
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: thinks he's Al Davis lost his mind. But at one

621
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: point in time, Al Davis really new football, Like does

622
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: Jerry really know? Like is Jerry watching tape?

623
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: No chance.

624
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: I don't even blame him. But I also wouldn't be

625
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: an owner if I'm not watching tape telling you what

626
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: to do?

627
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: All right?

628
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: You know, I don't get to watch other shows except yours, Nick,

629
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: because a lot of times I'm on the air. I

630
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 1: pulled into the parking lot when Dan Patrick goes on,

631
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: so I never get to hear Dan, who does a

632
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: great job.

633
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: I don't get a watch like Steven Air on.

634
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: Her shows because either I'm prepping for my show, doing

635
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: for my show, or driving home.

636
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Speaker 2: It's interesting.

637
00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: I when I worked at the other place, I was

638
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: there for the New England Dynasty, a big chunk of

639
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: it in the eleven years, and it was great.

640
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: I was I. You know, my friends were all either

641
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: New York Giant fans or.

642
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: Patriot fans, and I never thought the Patriots were the

643
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: most talented team, although I did think the Randy Moss

644
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: years were damn good.

645
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: I thought I heard a lot of this stuff about officiating,

647
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: and I was always like, oh shit, I did think

648
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: the Bills got a first down, but there were thirteen

649
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: minutes left, and I don't care.

650
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: I'm kind of a.

651
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Speaker 1: Believer, and I've said this, I think to you and

652
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: others when people used to complain about Jordan getting all

653
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: the calls of the Warriors, I would always say this,

654
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Speaker 1: how many turnovers did you have and how many free

655
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: throws did you miss? If the answer combined is twenty,

656
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't care about that.

657
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: Go either way.

658
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: Called in the fourth quarter right like, you had eleven

659
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: turnovers and missed nine free throws, I'm not going to

660
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Speaker 1: listen to you. I thought Buffalo was incredibly lucky. They

661
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: fumbled four times and recovered all of them. I've never

662
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: heard of that in a playoff game, well in my life.

663
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Speaker 2: No, Colin. They there were five fumbles in the game

664
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: because Mahomes fumbled and Buffalo recovered all five. Now, as

665
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Speaker 2: far as back as the record books go, first playoff

666
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: team ever to do that and lose, Like, it's very

667
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: hard to go five for five fumble recoveries and not

668
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Speaker 2: win the game. They got very fortunate on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my take on the entire game was very much

670
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: like Matt Hasselback. Matt Hasselback and I and Drew Brees

671
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: and I agreed that Sean McDermot acknowledged after the game. Yeah,

672
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: on the fourth and one stuff, you know, we just

673
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: kind of let Josh, you know, and we just kind

674
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: of figure, Josh, we're gonna kind of let him do it.

675
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, Annie Reid has never once said, you know,

676
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let Mahomes kind of do it. And

677
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Speaker 1: I've been on this now since you've known me at

678
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: f S one for eight years. I think offense coaches

679
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: are better with star quarterbacks than defensive coaches. And one

680
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: of the things I've said about Brady is where Brady

681
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: really deserves credit. He won with Arians, he won with Belichick,

682
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: Charlie Weiss, he won with like six different people because

683
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: remember Bill didn't really run the offense. It was whoever

684
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Speaker 1: the coordinator was. Is that I do think, and this

685
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: is not a shot at Mahomes all of us in life,

686
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: some kids grow up with really doting, rich parents and

687
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: supportive parents and some kids grow up in chaos. Is

688
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: Mahomes would be successful regardless, But do you think it's

689
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: crazy to consider that if Mahomes and Alan's switch coaches,

690
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Speaker 1: that Alan would have more super Bowls today than Mahomes.

691
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I do think that's crazy. I don't think

692
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Speaker 2: you'd have more super Bowls than Mahomes. And I think

693
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Speaker 2: that Listen. I think Patrick is going to go down

694
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Speaker 2: as a Mount Rushmore athlete, not football player athlete, and

695
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: I think that he is has a special innate ability

696
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 2: that right now, no other quarterback in like the people

697
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: have been beaten over the head with the Mahomes stats,

698
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 2: but some of them are just like impossible to believe.

699
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 2: So he already now has more the more playoff victories. Yeah,

700
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: when his defense allows twenty nine points than any quarterback

701
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Speaker 2: in NFL history, So he has four, He has won

702
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: four playoff games. Was even's allowed twenty nine points? That's

703
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: Tom did it. I think Peyton did it I think

704
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: three times, and Tom did it once orrive vice versa.

705
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: But no one's done that that. Patrick has played twenty

706
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna get to the Josh Allen piece

707
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: of this. Patrick has played twenty playoff games. Okay, eleven

708
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: of them were what I would call easy wins. They

709
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: were leading in the fourth quarter, led the whole way.

710
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: The nine games Colin that he was not that he

711
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: trailed in the fourth quarter, six of them he won.

712
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: One of them he forced overtime against New England, never

713
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: touched the ball, another one he forced overtime against Cincinnati,

714
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: did not come through and lost. And the other one

715
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: they were down thirty one to nine against the Bucks

716
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: entering the fourth. So again, and put a little finer

717
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: point on that. In his playoff career in the fourth

718
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: quarter trailing by one score, he has had fourteen possessions.

719
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: They have tied or taken the lead thirteen times and

720
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: so and the one time he didn't, he then got

721
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: the ball back and did it.

722
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Speaker 1: So do you believe, though, that Andy Reid is a

723
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: is a oh prominent part that.

724
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, absolutely, But I also believe the knock

725
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: on Andy, before Patrick came into his life, was brilliant

726
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: play designer. But in these exact moments I'm describing, gets

727
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: tight and messes up the clock or situationally isn't buttoned up.

728
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: That's how you lose a twenty eight point lead to

729
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: the Colts with Alex Smith. That's how you lose an

730
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Speaker 2: eight and in the playoffs an eighteen point lead to

731
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Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota. You know, Andy was the chiefs coach when

732
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Speaker 2: those things happened. So I think it's the perfect marriage.

733
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Speaker 2: I think Andy is the perfect preparer of offense and

734
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: plays and all of it, and Patrick is the steadiest

735
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: hand in the world. And so to me, it's like

736
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Speaker 2: the most brilliant medical school professor pairing up with the

737
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: most naturally gifted surgeon ever, Like he is gonna give

738
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: you all of the tools and then you're gonna have,

739
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: you know, be the one with the steady hand, going

740
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Speaker 2: to do it. So that parted, and I think Josh

741
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: is excellent. I also think that Josh had the ball

742
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: of three and a half minutes left down three and

743
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: got seventeen yards and zero points. And that's a year

744
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: after getting the ball back with six minutes left down

745
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: three and got forty yards and zero points. Like that's

746
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: not Patrick, that's not Andy. That's in those moments the

747
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: fourth and five play, Josh was excellent first down, second down,

748
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: he was not, which set up the third and ten,

749
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: which set up the fourth and five. Here is the

750
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: thing I want to say about the sneaks, Colin, and

751
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: this is where I'm surprised. More teams don't, more contending

752
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: teams don't take a page out of the Chiefs notebook.

753
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 2: Why at some point during the year didn't the Bills

754
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: say internally, Okay, guys, I think we pretty much well

755
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: know how to run this snake. Can we work on

756
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: a couple other short yardage things? So thank you? A.

757
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: Teams have to prepare for other things. And b even

758
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 2: though we've been basically undefeated on it, if somebody has

759
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: a wrinkle that can stop it, we have a pivot point. Instead,

760
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: they just ran the same thing all year because it

761
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: was so successful, and that's that should be the lesson

762
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 2: of the Chiefs. The Chiefs early in the year, people like, oh,

763
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: Kelsey's washed, and it's like, okay, he's obviously slowing down.

764
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: But is it is it that he's washed, or is

765
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 2: it that they are saying, hey it it hasn't happened

766
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: in years. But what if someone in a playoff game

767
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: takes him away. Let's make sure Xavier Worth he's ready,

768
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: Let's make sure everybody else is ready, and then in

769
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game, he has his worst game in

770
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: five years in the playoffs, and other guys step up.

771
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: If you're contending for a championship, sometimes preparing to win

772
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: the title is not the same as making sure every

773
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: single possession of my Week seven game against the Jets

774
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: is the highest EPA. And that's where the Chiefs have

775
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: been brilliant, and that's where the Bills, I think, have

776
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: not been.

777
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think fans understand this if you watched.

778
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to give away where I

779
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: heard this, but it comes from a good source. Belichick

780
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: can't even speak offensive football like defensive coaches. They don't

781
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: really understand offensive football. That's not what they do. And

782
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: one of the things I've always pointed to, and I

783
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: think I'm the only guy talking about this regularly pat

784
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: myself in the back. Have you noticed how offensive coaches

785
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: can rearrange the deck chairs with an offensive line within

786
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: an off season and fix it. And he's done it

787
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: twice ing the season, movement based and left multiple times.

788
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 2: This year.

789
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: They were terrible the first five weeks. By the end

790
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: of the year, Stafford never got touched. Defensive coaches can't

791
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: do that. Tomlin's on seven straight years of battle lines.

792
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff Schwartz showed during the playoff loss, the

793
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: Steelers offensive line mayhem, they didn't know where they were going.

794
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: I mean they were literally often pulling to the wrong place.

795
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: Offensive coaches speak the language of offense, and the league

796
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: has pivoted to reward them. It's almost like if Trump.

797
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: You know, when Trump goes out and says, hey, I

798
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: am pro you know bitcoin, cryptocurrency, I am pro cryptocurrency. Well,

799
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: you know that benefits people in the industry, Like the

800
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: NFL's basically said over the last ten years, we're gonna

801
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: go offense. We're gonna literally change the game. And so

802
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: there's a big chunk of these defensive coaches.

803
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: They don't speak it.

804
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: They don't speak it, they don't understand the language and

805
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: what you're asking, which is why wouldn't they create a

806
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: second play? Well that's not that's not their natural instinct,

807
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: that's not who they are. Andy Reid in the off

808
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: season will send me plays he's working on that he

809
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: found on YouTube from Rose Bowls in the forties, Like hey, hey,

810
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not gonna tell you what I'm gonna use this,

811
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: don't share this and look at this play. That's not

812
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: what defensive coaches do. And I think advantage the great.

813
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: So what do you think they should do? Because the

814
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: thing is because because the.

815
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: I agree with a lot of what you're saying, and

816
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: I also it's like, but there isn't a the proven

817
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: excellent offensive coach available. B Belichick took the Carolina job,

818
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: so it's not like, hey, let's just get better situationally,

819
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: and you know, even in short term, he's beaten Andy,

820
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 2: he's beaten Patrick. And I understand the folks who are like, man,

821
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: if it's been this long, you haven't broking through against

822
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: this team. Even if McDermott's an excellent coach, sometimes what

823
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: happens to Mark Jackson to elevate to Steve Kerr as

824
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: Brew talks about, needs to happen. I get all that,

825
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: But can you take the risk of this part of

826
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's prime of we're handing the reins over to

827
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 2: a first time unknown head coach because he's an offensive guy.

828
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think Listen. I think so was Sean McVay,

829
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: and so is Matt Lafleur. Right, I think he was

830
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: all the guys who failed, Like you know what I mean,

831
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: go ahead, No, Sean McDermott. I think my comp has

832
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: always been Chuck Knox. I'm saying this is my age.

833
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 1: But Chuck Knox was known as an organizer, highly competent,

834
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: B plus coach, Seahawks bills. If you were a shit show,

835
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: he got you on the right path. But he was

836
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: called ground Chuck because the playoffs would come, and like

837
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer, he got hyper conservative. And I just think

838
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: that's your fate in life. Is that sometimes Nick, You know,

839
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: let's just take our business for instance. Is that some

840
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: people in my age don't do social media. I think

841
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: it's a huge disadvantage. I do a ton of social media.

842
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: I've got a TikTok clip on Brawnie today. It'll get

843
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: three million people. I feed into it.

844
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: I'm into it. I love it.

845
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: Not everybody's sixty plus with gray hair is into all

846
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: these social media platforms. The world we're in has changed.

847
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: TV doesn't drive all the business. I'm comfortable with it.

848
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: There are other things in other industries people aren't comfortable with.

849
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: The NFL's culture has changed. It's all offense, and so

850
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: a lot of these defensive coaches. They're beholden to hiring

851
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: the right OC and the minute you know Josh McDaniels

852
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: and Brady leaves bella check screwed. There's nothing he can do.

853
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: He didn't know what he's doing.

854
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: Let's both think.

855
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: Of something where we were the most wrong we've been

856
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: all football season. So I'll give you what it is

857
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: and why it is, and I'll let you think. So

858
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: you know, this is how I think, I love, I

859
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: think it matters. I want my quarterback to have a

860
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: little artist but mostly be an accountant.

861
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: I want you to go.

862
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: I want you to be have kind of Matt Ryan,

863
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurt's personality justin Herbert stand up there, talk about

864
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: the team, put out fires, be in line. Brady's as

865
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: good as anybody for as big as star as Mahomes is.

866
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: He really always just says nice things. He's really he's

867
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: figured out.

868
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: My buddy, my former intern started interrupts in Kansas City,

869
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: and who I'm sure hates that I always call my

870
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: former intern because he's now the afternoon drive host on

871
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: six ' ten in Kansas City and has been for

872
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: a long time. He has a weekly interview with Patrick

873
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: Mahomes and has had it for years, and God bless

874
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: Carrington Harrison, who does a great job. That poor guy

875
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: never ever gets any news out of it because Patrick

876
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: says nothing. Like He's had a weekly exclusive interview with

877
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes for five years, and if you ever played

878
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: one clip of it on your show, the answer is

879
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: probably not, because Patrick is just so im to say nothing,

880
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 2: just say absolutely nothing, but go ahead. So and that's

881
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: how I like my quarterbacks.

882
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: I've said this Johnny Manziel, Baker Mayfield, Jamis Winston, Cam Newton.

883
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: If I see ego, if I see self importance, if

884
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: I see Jay Cutler grumpiness, I just do not like it.

885
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: And I think I've overwhelmingly been right. So I watched

886
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: Nick Suriani's opening press conference. It's the worst I've ever seen.

887
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: He's terrible at the podium, he wore a jersey at

888
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: the last time after last win. He's yelled at fans,

889
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: he's gone after players, and he's had position coaches hold

890
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: him back. His methodology stinks, and yet they love him.

891
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is ridiculous. This is the exact

892
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: opposite of what I want my coach to be. And

893
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: so I've come to try to figure it out, and

894
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: I went and watched In Chicago, I went and watched

895
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: the comedian Sebastian Menacawsko, a very very funny guy, great performer.

896
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: He minds me a lot of Chris Rock. He's like

897
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: all Lee in his prime. I mean, he's got the look,

898
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: the physical He's really a performer, very funny, and a

899
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: lot of his act is is Italian family and how

900
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: dysfunctional and how they yell at each other and the

901
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: love is so deep and embedded in the family. And

902
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: I've learned this. Cultures are different. There are couples that

903
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: argue and that yell at each other, and I'm like, oh,

904
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: this isn't gonna work. And they've been married thirty seven years,

905
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: and I imagine the makeup sex is great, Like they

906
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: just get along.

907
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: It just works.

908
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: And I've come to terms with Siriani is that in

909
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: a highly emotional city with a highly intense GM and

910
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: fan base and radio media that's just barking and make

911
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: he just fits. He is the family member. He can

912
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: handle the bs, he can handle the noise. He's sometimes

913
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: he's half fan. I just thought this is not He's

914
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: very dependent on coordinators.

915
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Man, everything you're saying is fair, I

916
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: still can't get there with him. Like everything you're saying true,

917
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: here's what's also true. Had they blocked Jalen Carter they

918
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: being the Rams on that third down in round two.

919
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: I think it's possible he was fired ten days ago

920
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: if after that up thirteen against the Rams with Jalen

921
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: Hurts injured, and then up six when he called that

922
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: bootleg roll play action roll out on second and seven

923
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: that resulted in a dozen yard sack and all of

924
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: a sudden, Stafford's driving down the field down six, chance

925
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: to steal the game. I think they might have gotten

926
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: rid of him now. Instead, he's a game away from

927
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 2: having the greatest start to a career any coach. Ever,

928
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it. I because everything,

929
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: every instinct I.

930
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: Have says, well, this guy's just a dofis the same.

931
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 2: But you have, like, if any position should be judged

932
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: based on their record, it should be head coach. And

933
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: his record is historically good. So I don't it really

934
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: tests a lot of my beliefs of what should and

935
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: what does work in the NFL. And so yeah, this one,

936
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: I mean, this offseason, they totally you know what's the

937
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: word that's always used in political Twitter. Definishtrated him, I

938
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: think is the word. They didn't even let him pick

939
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: his own coordinators, you know what I mean. Early in

940
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 2: the year, he's freaking out, yelling at his fans after Quinn.

941
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: Even after the NFC championship game, Jalen hurts, it's like, yeah, coach,

942
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 2: finally let me out of my straight jacket. Like that's

943
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: a weird thing the whole. So, I don't know, but

944
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: they haven't lost a game that Jalen started and finished

945
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: in four months, and they're playing in the super second

946
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: Super Bowl in two years or in three years. So yeah,

947
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: that one baffles me. That's my worst. I was basically

948
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: perfect on my AFC preseason takes.

949
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: Saying I will not predicting. It's become a very easy

950
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: conference in the standings to predict.

951
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: And so I got and I could not have been

952
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: more wrong about the NFC. So I obviously famously had

953
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: the Bears not only making the playoffs or winning the conference,

954
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: but I also had the Eagles missing the playoffs. I

955
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 2: did it. I had Washington finishing ahead of the Eagles,

956
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: and my rationale was, man, something really weird happened last

957
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: year to that team, and I don't trust this coach

958
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: to pull them out of it. And I also thought

959
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley would be good but not great for them,

960
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: But instead Saquon had one of the greatest years any

961
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: running backs had in the history of football. Can I

962
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: ask you a question, sure, yeah, go ahead, after this year,

963
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: take this year out of it. This group of quarterbacks,

964
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 2: the Mahomes, Alan Burrow, Lamar, that group, they're all twenty

965
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: eight to twenty nine. Let's say optimistically they all have

966
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: ten more good years. That's probably on the high end,

967
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 2: but let's give them a decade, ten more seasons. The

968
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season onward Man, at least one of

969
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: those guys is never making much less winning a Super Bowl.

970
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: Like moving forward, so I know Joe's already made what

971
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: because here's the way I was thinking about it. I'm like, okay,

972
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: because everyone's like, do you think Josh will eventually get one?

973
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: And intellectually I'm like, yes, of course, he's the second

974
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: best player in the league. Of course he'll get one.

975
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 2: But then I'm like, well, wait a minute, Okay, So

976
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 2: in the next ten years, let's say Patrick slows down,

977
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: he only makes four of the Andy Reid retires. Yeah,

978
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: so let's just say Pat. Let's say Patrick only makes

979
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: four of the next ten, so there's six. So that's

980
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 2: six for Lamar, Josh, Joe. I know, you've got Justin

981
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: Herbert getting the one eventually, Bo Nicks, CJ. Stroud and

982
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: we're talking about ten years. So it's also a couple

983
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: more generations coming into the league like these guys, All

984
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: of these guys being in the AFC is devastating for

985
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 2: the resumes they're trying to build well.

986
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: And the one that's in trouble is Joe Burrow. The

987
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: Bengals had to sell naming rights to the stadium to

988
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: pay his contract. People don't understand this. The gentleman who

989
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: first of all, the Bengals don't have any money. They

990
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 1: don't have any money. It's just like the poorest ownership group.

991
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow knows it. They had to sell naming rights

992
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: to a stadium to pay him. They started peeling off

993
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: players even before they paid Jamar Chase. They're peeling off.

994
00:53:59,600 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: Of them now.

995
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: Safety Yeah, and they're already peeling off players. They are

996
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: the opposite of the Eagles. They are anti risk and reward.

997
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: They take no risks. Tobin, the general manager, has been

998
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: there forever pleasant, very nice guy, got no power. I mean,

999
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: the Brown family runs the organization. They are essentially a

1000
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: Triple A operation in Major League Baseball that happens to

1001
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: have Joe Burrow. People make fun of the Raiders. The

1002
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: Raiders because of some new ownership groups that have come

1003
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: in are flushed with cash. That's why they can pay

1004
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: four coaches and three general managers. They got nothing but money.

1005
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: They got Mark Davis has nothing but money, and the

1006
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: Raiders are a brand. And also it's Las Vegas. It's

1007
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: a growing city. There's real money there, no state tax,

1008
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: very attractive place. Cincinnati, they got no money. Burrow, They'll

1009
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: never have a stacked roster. The only time to really

1010
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: be great with him was when he was on the

1011
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: rookie contract. When they pay Jamar Chase, they're on a money.

1012
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 2: Like Joe Burrow.

1013
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: I feel terrible for him. Joe Burrow would need to

1014
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: be superhuman. I mean, this year he was as good

1015
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: as he's ever been. They couldn't make the playoffs. Herbert's

1016
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: gonna get better with Harbaugh, Like that's gonna only get better, right,

1017
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, you're just Herbert. I think

1018
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: Burrow is the one in trouble.

1019
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: And here's the other. Here's the other concern for all

1020
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: those guys. Will they may be different for Joe because

1021
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: he's done it, But will those guys be able to

1022
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: play Patrick Mahomes beat him, which is part of the hypothetical,

1023
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: and then psychologically be able to recenter and be like,

1024
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: that wasn't the super Bowl? Not like we we like

1025
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: that's the thing that I would worry about for the Bills.

1026
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 2: Not I do think Listen, Mahomes is not going to

1027
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: go undefeated against Allen in his career. In the playoffs,

1028
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 2: they will win. But man, if next year the Bills

1029
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: finally beat the Chiefs in the playoffs, it's gonna be

1030
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: really hard to psychologically then reset and be like, actually,

1031
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: the next game's the tougher, bigger one. And so that's

1032
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: we have Never I can't remember a time when it

1033
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: felt this disproportionate in quarterbacking talent conference to conference, and

1034
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 2: what it's gonna mean for these guys kind of legacies

1035
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: when it comes to who they were as far as

1036
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: winning players or winning championships.

1037
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: The volume