1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: Podas all Right, here we go. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: Fifteen funny, twenty five, thirty thirty five, forty coty five 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 3: fifty and the. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 4: Chicks block Look college Football World stundus, Oh my goodness, 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 4: he stumbled, and football the lateral turn a counter on 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 4: the inside. Don't you believe I tap them up the. 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 5: Veil the night. 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 6: It's not the sage of the dog in the fighting. 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 6: It's the side of the fight in the hall. 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 7: What's up the generation? Welcome to the Big Bets on 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 7: Campus Podcast. This is the Week six betting recap. I'm 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 7: stuck you enjoying me as always. Colin Wilson, Oh baby, 14 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 7: what a day of college football. We talked a lot 15 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 7: about the next couple of slates and how good they are. 16 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,279 Speaker 7: But I always say, never underestimate a college football slate 17 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 7: when you least expect it, it just gives you pure 18 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 7: gold throughout the day. Alabama Number one, Alabama goes down. 19 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 7: We're gonna hear a lot about Diego. I listened to 20 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 7: the voicemails. We'll get to them in a moment. Number four, 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 7: Tennessee goes down to your hogs. We'll get to them 22 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 7: in a moment. Number nine, Missouri gets bush whacked. Absolutely 23 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 7: pick it out behind the woodshed, take it out behind 24 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 7: the shed and put down. That was a good call 25 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 7: by you. I had no fuel there. Number ten Michigan 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 7: goes down, Washington gets their college football National championship revenge. 27 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 7: USC goes down. Minnesota was able to survive a brandishing 28 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 7: weapon personal foul on the last drive, and undefeated Rutgers 29 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 7: even went down still winning. Unfortunately for you in your 30 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 7: jam you playoff that led to Texas. I bet you 31 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 7: should you bet you all wanted to go to a playoff. 32 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 7: Jesus Christ. 33 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 8: It was ninety to one to win the Sun Belt. 34 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 8: I said it on the New BCS. 35 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 7: I just hesitated, you know, yeah, I talked you out 36 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 7: that I shouldn't have. Uh, but it was an insane day. 37 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 7: Tell me about your watching the Hogs? Where were you 38 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 7: all right? 39 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 9: All right? 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 8: First off, first of. 41 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 6: Woo pig studie like containing my excitement about going through 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 6: that as a fan, going through that, sharing that with 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 6: your family, sharing that with your friends. It was a 44 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 6: much needed dose of medicine to the fan base that 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 6: has struggled with this identity. Taylor Green getting hurt the 46 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 6: handicap was spot on. The defense played out of their mind. 47 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 6: And here we are, twenty five years after we rushed 48 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 6: the field, pulled down the goalpost because Anthony Lucas is 49 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 6: pulling down Clint Sterner pass. This is getting revenge from 50 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 6: the stumble and fumble in ninety eight. Here we all 51 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 6: over again. Our fan base needed it. It was great 52 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 6: yesterday stuck. I can't to get past what happened in Fable, 53 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 6: which is hard to do it because it's a big 54 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 6: part of my night six of the seven and the 55 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 6: round robin piece, the video that I put out every 56 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 6: week hit it was twenty five x the bet that 57 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 6: I made. So everybody that followed along I, you know, 58 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 6: enjoy it because that's the that's the one week that 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 6: we need where you hit six to seven. 60 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 8: It pays off the rest of the round robins for 61 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 8: the rest of the year. 62 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 6: Smu over like on the podcast, like are you interested 63 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 6: in this game? 64 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 8: I'm like, I got to sit back. 65 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 6: I got these smu win total overs and for so 66 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 6: much shit that I put through is week zero, Week one, 67 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 6: how bad that Nevada game is. 68 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 8: Ponies are rolling. 69 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 6: Against a soft ACC schedule. And then finally I mean, 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 6: let's just get into it. I mean, I said, Bandy 71 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 6: over three wins that I remember your face like, what 72 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 6: the fuck are you talking about? Vandy or I said, 73 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 6: I don't know where they're getting an SEC win. I 74 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 6: don't know where they're getting an SEC win. 75 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 8: That's at least a push. 76 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 7: Now, diego, diego? How mad are the group of five 77 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 7: guys they don't get Now I've I've sown all their thunder. 78 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 7: I've taken over the Pavia. Uh, I'm the president of 79 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 7: the PAVIA fan Club. What a game that was. There's 80 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 7: a lot of voicemails talking about that, but uh, yeah 81 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 7: it was. Uh it's a good day, good bounce back 82 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 7: week for me. We'll get the best call wors call 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 7: Bevergrett a minute, but let's let's jump right into the voicemails. 84 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 7: Talk about some of the games from there. 85 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 10: Bad beats, back doors and miracle covers. 86 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 5: However you're feeling, we want to hear from you. 87 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 11: You have reached the voicemail box. 88 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 7: Of the Big Leave a message after the. 89 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 10: Bleep bellas John from Long Island, Charles Ponzi, Bernie Madoff, 90 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 10: and Da Pavia. Holy, I declare this day from here 91 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 10: on out. The Ponzi scheme is officially over. 92 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 12: Holy I'm gonna keep this short and sweet. 93 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 13: Diego Diego, Let's go. 94 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 14: The SEC wasn't ready for Diego Pavia covers against Missouri, 95 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 14: should have won the game. Takes down Alabama outright, Kentucky, 96 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 14: better get ready because he's coming for you next. You 97 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 14: stucky in your Ponzi scheme. Shout out to Ianello and 98 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 14: calgarys hit the music. 99 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 15: Da Go, Da Go. Colin Stuck, This is Mark. Usually 100 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 15: you know I would go crazy out of this world 101 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 15: for Diego Pavia. But you know, in the middle of 102 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 15: this game, I threw, like you know, a couple hondo 103 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 15: on the money line. You felt the Diego mojo of 104 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 15: what was gonna happen. And I have no skin in 105 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 15: the fight besides money. Favorite college football player of all time. 106 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 7: This kid. 107 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 15: Good for him. You know, Anchor down, go Commodoores Alabama. 108 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 15: You just got got Guys. 109 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 16: I'm actually at the park, and usually when I come 110 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 16: to the park with the kids and I'm not happy, 111 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 16: but you know what, I'm happy right now. And there's 112 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 16: one man I have to think for that. Diego Diego 113 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 16: Diego boys. 114 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 17: We did it. 115 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 18: We did it. 116 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 15: Stucky. 117 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 16: You're back, Colin. Yeah, you got this one right too, 118 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 16: So congratulations, celebrate the win, and onward of the rest 119 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 16: we go. 120 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 19: Hey boys, I offered to read stories to my three 121 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 19: year old, but we're in here just watching Diego Diego 122 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 19: just take down the Titan. It's glorious. My son asked, 123 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 19: who's that, and I said, he's the Ponzi Ski, the hero, 124 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 19: the one we all needed, the person we don't deserve, 125 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 19: never a doubt. 126 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 20: Cash that ticket. 127 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: Let's go, baby, as is christ and Virginia. Calling from 128 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: the toilet. My dad is visiting from Long Island, doesn't 129 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: really get college football as much, so I needed a 130 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: quiet place to call so he doesn't think I'm a psycho. 131 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: But Charles Ponzi Bernie made. 132 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 21: Off Diego Pavia enough said, bride to the bank Europe. 133 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I tweeted out. In some point in the second 134 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 7: I said that was losing this game, like just they 135 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 7: were coming back. But it just it just felt that way. 136 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 7: It felt like Vandy was the better team. I shot. 137 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 7: Their defense held up as well as it did. The 138 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 7: game plan was there, forty two minutes time of possession, 139 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 7: just controlled the ball the entire DAMA obviously came out flat. Yeah, 140 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 7: picked six early. Bandy jumped them right before then to 141 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 7: go up seven to nothing. And look that there was 142 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 7: some talking to some people close the park. I believe 143 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 7: that I already killed help de boor Or gave him like 144 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 7: his first job, maybe like Southern Illinois way back in 145 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 7: the day. There was some quiet confidence coming out of 146 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 7: Andy that they were gonna have success going at this 147 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 7: Alabama defense. With the misdirection Pavia creating, you know, hitting 148 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 7: enough explosives and then just controlling the clock, keeping the 149 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 7: Bama offense on the sidelines and then being able to 150 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 7: just run out the clock at the end was super impressive. 151 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 7: Vandy now won in sixty against top five teams one 152 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 7: in sixty. De Boor all the credit of the world, DA, 153 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 7: but Saban doesn't lose that game. He's still one of 154 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 7: the best coaches in college football. But they don't. Saban 155 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 7: finds a way to have them buttoned up early in 156 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 7: that game. So, yeah, it was an impressive win. What 157 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 7: do you gotta say. I mean, Pavia as a dog, 158 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 7: it's gonna be a double digit dog again this I 159 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 7: think they're got to Kentucky this week. We'll talk about 160 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 7: that later in the week. But yeah, just super impressive, 161 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 7: awesome atmosphere by this is That's what College Trooble's all about. 162 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 7: It was from like four o'clock on. I got a 163 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 7: rant coming on Penn State. Don't worry, but from four 164 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 7: o'clock go on, I don't think I lost the bet 165 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 7: outside of the bail are under a terrible call there. 166 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 7: I'll say that's my worst call because Penn State had 167 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 7: closed like thirty and a half or whatever it did, 168 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 7: so I can't be too mad at that. But I 169 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 7: have a rant coming for James Franklin. I will say 170 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 7: that's what college rble was all about, all these upsets, 171 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 7: the goal post on Broadway, the goal post being ushered 172 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 7: out of the stadium, people hanging on to it. I think, 173 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 7: as you said, the future engineers. 174 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 6: Lawyers, doctors and lawyers, doctors, doctors. 175 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 7: And lawyers, and that that goal posts heading down Broadway. 176 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 7: It's amazing. Good for Vandy. It's been like just nothing 177 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 7: but suffering for so long. So to beat the number 178 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 7: first ever, number one, first ever win ever a number 179 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 7: one team, awesome. So College Tioble's all about twelve days 180 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 7: wide open. I don't know who I don't know who's 181 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 7: gonna make it Like it's everyone that was like penciled 182 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 7: in before yesterday. I mean not everyone, but a bunch 183 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 7: of teams are all lost. It's crazy. 184 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 6: We have such a big week coming up, with so 185 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 6: many huge games, but I have to sit back and 186 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 6: look at all the conference standings in the odds because 187 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 6: it really is wide open. 188 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 8: I want to talk real quick about something. 189 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 6: These postgame win expectancies come out. I have so much 190 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 6: deep respect for what sp plus puts out, and I 191 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 6: you know, respect all the numbers that they put out, 192 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 6: but it is just a known fact that Service Academy 193 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 6: postgame win expectancies and Service Academy success rates don't apply 194 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 6: to those formulas. And so what you're gonna see is 195 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 6: that Vanderbilt was like. 196 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 7: Three two three yards is like a success a lot 197 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 7: of times exact. 198 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 6: And and you go forward on fourth down. Those postgame 199 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 6: win expectancies only go to third down. They don't take 200 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 6: in fourth down. And so what you're gonna hear is is, well, 201 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 6: Vanderbilt was just one point eight percent postgame win expectancy 202 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 6: to win that game. 203 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 8: I get it. 204 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 6: They were thirty eight percent and running plays on fifty 205 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 6: four running plays. I get that Alabama was eight point 206 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 6: seven yards per play and Vanderbilt was five point six 207 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 6: yards per play. 208 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 8: Huge gap. 209 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 6: Here's the problem and why postgame win expectancy can't sum 210 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 6: up Service academies and Vanderbilt with Diego running it, twenty 211 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 6: two first downs for Vanderbilt, every first down is at 212 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 6: least thirty seconds three minutes off the clock. Four downs 213 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 6: thirty seconds, twenty two first downs. Do the math forty 214 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 6: two minutes. It doesn't matter what the success rate is 215 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 6: on rushing plays. As long as you get three yards, 216 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 6: that's all that matters. And that's why you can tell 217 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 6: you could make that claim long before that Vanderbilt's winning 218 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 6: this game because you can't speed them up. 219 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 8: If they get a first down. 220 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 6: You're fucked, like you can't come back when they get 221 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 6: first down. 222 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 7: So to me, some academy tees break they break models. Yes, 223 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 7: why it's why Service academies as huge dogs have always 224 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 7: had so much success because the numbers are just you 225 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 7: can't just take their basic numbers because they shorten the 226 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 7: game and their success rate is that people that have models, 227 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 7: the Service academies break them. You have to treat them 228 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 7: completely separately. And the Bandy's basically an SEC service kid, 229 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 7: what have they done this year? Covered with ease against Missouri? 230 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 7: Should have one beat valabtecas two touchdown favors and beat 231 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 7: Alabama as three plus touchdown underdogs. 232 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 8: The other thing, Oh no, go ahead, go ahead. 233 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 7: I just can said that's who they are. And then 234 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 7: they were a double digit favorite where that doesn't that 235 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 7: doesn't work as well, and they lose to Georgia State. 236 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 7: So yeah, they you have to treat those teams differently 237 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 7: and they're gonna be ideal to back as double digit underdogs. 238 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, I mean, there's just nothing you can do. 239 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 6: But it's the same reason I took like a two 240 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 6: hundred to one out on Diego Pobby to lead the 241 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 6: SEC and rushing got a little bit of a lave 242 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 6: On Moss problem there. But still, I mean it's like, 243 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 6: this is what this offense is. We knew with Jerry kill. Boy, 244 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 6: My god, does Jerry kill own the state of Alabama? 245 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 6: They still have Auburn to play. 246 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 7: Hobaby have most wins as a two touchdown plus dog 247 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 7: wins going into yesterday, more than any other quarterback of 248 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 7: the best twenty years outed another. 249 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 6: I won Vanderbilt in the Vegas Bowl. Brett, I, you 250 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 6: better make those bull projections. I want Vanderbilt in the 251 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 6: Vegas Bowl representing the SEC. 252 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 7: Make it happen versus Michigan. Got a sick get a 253 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 7: service Academy game, big between the Big Ten and the SEC. 254 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 7: All right, Moving on the Hoosiers. 255 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 22: We're now six to zero. We've covered every game, sig, 256 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 22: no question, fourth and five, he's going for it. Gets 257 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 22: the cover. This offense, it's an absolute wagon. They've gone 258 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 22: over their team total in all six games. The defense 259 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 22: are some question marks, but we're not worried. Nebraska October nineteenth, 260 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 22: We're coming for you. 261 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 21: What's that stuck in Colin just giving you guys a shout? 262 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 21: Horns aren't playing this week, so I thought I would 263 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 21: really dive into making the picks. I love Stuck, being 264 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 21: with him forever. Had a rough run, so I was like, 265 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 21: you know what, this week, I won't go with Stuck. 266 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 21: Let's check out Collins picks best picks. Can't pick the Aggies. 267 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 23: All right, let's go with the house state Iowa over. 268 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 21: That's a whiff. 269 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 23: I go check Paulin still has a winning schedule. Go 270 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 23: check Stuck. Wait a second stuck has the under on 271 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 23: that game, he's got a winning record? Why do I 272 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 23: keep going one in five every time I follow y'all? 273 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 23: Even when you have winning weeks. 274 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 7: Sometimes it's like that here that from a lot of people. 275 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 7: You just can't. It's just something. I think what you 276 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 7: have to do is just you either have to like 277 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 7: it's hard to follow someone and pick and choose, like 278 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 7: you're just and you're gonna till you're gonna be picking 279 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 7: the wrong weeks to tell this person. Also, too many 280 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 7: people tail like everybody, don't do that. You're gonna juice 281 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 7: yourself out. You're just like, all right, have these ten 282 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 7: people that I trust on whatever apps or Twitter? I 283 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 7: know people that just follow them all and you have 284 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 7: like one hundred and ten plays on a Saturday. Don't 285 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 7: do that. Pick someone that you trust and when arrived 286 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 7: with long term you know you're gonna have ups and downs. 287 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 7: Make sure they have the long term track record or 288 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 7: just you know, have do you have some thoughts on 289 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 7: the game, Listen to people that you trust, and then 290 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 7: have them convince you one way or the other, and 291 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 7: you're ultimately making the decision. I think that's how it 292 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 7: works best. So I'm sorry that didn't didn't work out 293 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 7: for you. On Saturday, we'll send you some gear. Reach 294 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 7: out podcast at actually work dot com. By the way, 295 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 7: we gotta go over the whiteboard transparency trash two or 296 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 7: oh you Monroe outright Vandy outright. The games we agreed 297 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 7: on Houston TCU under that was that was nice, that 298 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 7: fumble late Washington winner, Cal winner, Arkansas first half end, 299 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 7: full game winner. 300 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 6: I like this board, except you're gonna go over this 301 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 6: head to head where this Iowa Kleble Johnson only got 302 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 6: one explosive run for me. 303 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 7: God damn it, you tweeted it out. You made sure 304 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 7: to tweet it out. Yeah, Iowa, Ohio State goes under. 305 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 7: And then Colorado State covers against Oregon State. 306 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 24: Quit running the ball. Good God, Beaver's get a defense. 307 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 24: I told you they're gonna get more going. It's yeah, 308 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,359 Speaker 24: Oregon State's RUNDI is horrifying. 309 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 7: So two and oh head to head four and more importantly, 310 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 7: because that's what we want when you guys listen to 311 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 7: the pod, is the games that we agree on. I 312 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 7: think it's good when we disagree and you can choose 313 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 7: which argument like. But the games that we agreed on 314 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 7: Went four and Oh Slash five and oh in the trash, 315 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 7: I should have them in the money in my round, Robin, 316 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 7: you all on row and Dandy Man, I wouldn't be 317 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 7: here today, be on an island. You'd be doing this 318 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 7: pod by yourself. 319 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 6: I think it's important to listen when you and I agree, 320 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 6: because at our core, I'm a math guy that looks 321 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 6: for spots, and you're at your core you're a spot 322 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 6: guy that looks for math, and like when we meet 323 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 6: in the middle, it usually works out right. So that's 324 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 6: my advice for everybody. If like you're switching between stuck 325 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 6: and I, listen to where we really like a game 326 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 6: on the same side, and then if we differ, which 327 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 6: I can tell you we will on Army Navy totals 328 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 6: for the rest of our lives, then you know, pick 329 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 6: a side and let's have fun. 330 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 7: You mentioned post postgame win expectancies don't capture service academies. Correctly, 331 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 7: not this year Army and Navy. There's no question about 332 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 7: their post game win expectancies. Wake up that Army Navy. 333 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 7: I mean I I spent my entire week trying to 334 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 7: find winners. All you gotta all you gotta do is 335 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 7: just wake up that army Navy and unfortunately for you Indiana, 336 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 7: oh my god. 337 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 6: That cover by Signetty you had this had to shove 338 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 6: it in. 339 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 7: He doesn't stop. The Northwestern turns the ball around downs late. 340 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 7: I thought you were good when they got the first 341 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 7: fourth down, and then they throw four straight in complete 342 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 7: passes and then Indiana gets a front door cover. That's 343 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 7: like their second or third of the year. They had 344 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 7: one against f i U. I think earlier in the season. Indiana, 345 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 7: congrats pop the champagne win total Cash Bowl eligible six 346 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 7: and oh we'll be ranked and uh yeah, all Signetti 347 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 7: does is win, could be undefeated playing Ohio State later 348 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 7: in the year. What is their schedule? Their schedules, it's 349 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 7: uh they got they host Nebraska. 350 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 8: I'll give you the projected spreads. 351 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 7: Okay, host Nebraska. 352 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 8: They should be minus two hosting. 353 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 6: Nebraska, host Washington. They should be minus three and a 354 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 6: half hosting Washington. Off a bye at Sparty, they should 355 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 6: be about eight point favorites over Sparty. 356 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 7: Home against Michigan. 357 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 6: I've got him as a favorite. Holy shit, I got him. 358 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 7: As Adam as a favorite. What are we talking aboutending 359 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 7: national champions a dog at Indiana. 360 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 8: How big is this Indiana? Ohio State by the way, 361 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 8: then at. 362 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 7: Ohio State, and then home against Purdue by the way. 363 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 7: Purdue unbottable. This team said they had someone one of 364 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 7: their better players leave the team to last week, they 365 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 7: don't come close to covering. I mean, what did they 366 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 7: lose this week was fifty two to six. 367 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 6: To wiscon Did you see Wisconsin's wide receivers getting like 368 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 6: five yards of separation? That's how how bad the corners 369 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 6: are for Purdue. 370 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 7: Five eighty nine Wisconsin five hundred eighty on theres eight 371 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 7: yards per play. 372 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 8: The long offense is. 373 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 7: Purdue is taken a shit ton of money a couple 374 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 7: of times this year too, against Notre Dame, against Oregon 375 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 7: State line. Who's I don't know who's out there slamming Purdue, 376 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 7: but they're probably in the poorhouse. I mean, this team 377 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 7: just gets leveled every week. 378 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 6: All right, let me say something about Indiana real quick. Yeah, 379 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 6: if they post game of the Years, guys, don't forget 380 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 6: that that Ohio State game comes the week before Ohio 381 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 6: State plays Michigan, and that game is so critical to 382 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 6: Ohio State and the Buckeyes because of what's happened the 383 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 6: last three years. Indiana is in such a spot on 384 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 6: November twenty third, Oh my god, what a spot getting 385 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 6: Ohio State there. 386 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, should be an interesting team to file, all right, 387 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 5: Moving on, Doug Collins just wanted to give a shout 388 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 5: out to everybody who handed out the UNLV Syracuse under. 389 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 25: Got that thing beat all the way down the fifty 390 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 25: five and a half. 391 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 12: Thank you cash money on the over. 392 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 26: Let's go say, Colin, you guys talk a lot about 393 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 26: accountability on the podcast last week, and now I'm here 394 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 26: to keep you accountable. You've got to stop betting weekday games. 395 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 26: Let's look at this Jacksonville State first half and under 396 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 26: that same game and underlive, and Oregon and New Hampshire 397 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 26: and UTEP first half and Troy and going back to 398 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 26: last week, Washington Rutgers over and Washington and but hey, 399 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 26: you did win the Houston TCU under by a point. 400 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 26: We all make these little funny jokes about who it's 401 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 26: Media Day's coasher twocuts. Put it this way, I'm gonna 402 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 26: rip up my ticket if you ever bet another weekday game. 403 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 26: Stop at Colin. 404 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 8: Listen. We talked about this on the beats. 405 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 7: I'm following along this week, there's a hooie. There's a 406 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 7: host of horrible beats in there that you just listed. 407 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 6: All yeah, that why that That Grady Gross field goal 408 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 6: abyss for Washington cost me not just Washington, but lost 409 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 6: me the over too. 410 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 8: So and then what happened with Jonathan. 411 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 6: Smith kicking a field goal to cover the twenty three 412 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 6: on Oregon. That was a little brutal. It's been rough 413 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 6: on Friday nights. 414 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 8: It's been rough. 415 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 6: I woke up on some Saturday mornings questioning my process. 416 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 8: But no, we'll keep at it. Get we'll get a 417 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 8: turn around. 418 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 27: In the Navy, it's a team. 419 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 12: You've got a bet in the Navy, It's one you'll 420 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 12: never sweat. Let's go Stucky. 421 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 28: You are a duty honor covering spreads. If you're not 422 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 28: blindly clicking Army Football every week, you either hate money 423 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 28: or you hate America. Either way, you're an idiot. 424 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 29: Colin Wilson, another swing and a miss on the analysis. 425 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 29: You were so sure Texas A and M would stop 426 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 29: Missouri in the red zone. Well guess what you didn't 427 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 29: consider that we would stay off their half of the 428 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 29: field the entire game. Hah, can't outthink the drink. I 429 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 29: hate this team. 430 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess I didn't handicap the fact that Texas 431 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 6: Adam's quality drives kept Missouri from doing it. 432 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 8: I I kind of. 433 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't want to boast about Taxan. I 434 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 6: mean they did take him to the woodshed and beat 435 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 6: him with a stick. But at the same time, Missouri 436 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 6: had a seventy five yard Luther Burden touchdown catch like 437 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 6: called back from alignment that was nowhere. 438 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 7: Have some bad but they couldn't stop them, right they could. 439 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 7: That's what it comes down. Say. I don't care what 440 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 7: kind of oil money was in the ref's pockets. They 441 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 7: couldn't stop them five hundred and twelve yards nine yards 442 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 7: per play. I knew that Missouri defense at holes. I 443 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 7: didn't think it was gonna be that bad. 444 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 6: It's bad, it's bad. I their offense is broke to 445 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 6: this A and M thing. I might have to get 446 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 6: in on this playoff thing and do a hedge against Texas. 447 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 6: I don't know this. This isn't stopping there. Weeman looked 448 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 6: fan fucking tastic. At the same time, it is Missouri secondary, 449 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 6: which was a primary handicap to say, if Connor Wigman's 450 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 6: come and into this game. It's actually a huge benefit 451 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 6: to the Aggies. 452 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 8: So we move on. But man, the Aggies are they're stout. 453 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, look, hey, I have an A and 454 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 7: M playoff ticket probably like just from an ex I mean, 455 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 7: it's such a long way to go. It's hard to 456 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 7: say now, but from just a pure equity standpoint, that 457 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 7: was one of the my futures that took the biggest 458 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 7: ticks up because I mean, look at opping across the 459 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 7: rest of the SEC. They they get a win over 460 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 7: a top ten team and Alabama goes down and Tennessee 461 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 7: goes down. So, by the way, great call on we 462 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 7: hit our underdog money line for LA too. 463 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 27: Yep. 464 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 7: With wick Forest, NC State is bad. I've been trying 465 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 7: to tell everybody they're so bad. I hope Grace McCall's 466 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 7: okay though, by the way, he got blown up and 467 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 7: it was scary, got stretched out, he weighed. I haven't 468 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 7: seen an update on him yet. But NC State is 469 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 7: a bad, bad football team. One of the reasons why 470 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 7: I was okay still fading Tennessee. I just didn't after 471 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 7: keep I kept seeing NC State. But you at Florida, 472 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 7: great call, I mean you U c f they're dead. 473 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 7: I mean, what what was that? I mean they averaged 474 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 7: two point seven yards per carry. 475 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 8: J looks like he's given up. 476 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 7: I mean that was they had a they had a 477 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 7: receiver who had a touchdown against Colorado hit the portal. 478 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 7: That's like a bad sign for you know, that was 479 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 7: like a bad I thought about it. I was like, 480 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 7: is that a precursor for or just like for is 481 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 7: it kind of signaling that the locker room is kind 482 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 7: of checked out on their season? After that? Lost the car? 483 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 7: Because how do you look to Colorado? Not only do 484 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 7: they lose, they get trucked in the spot of all spots. 485 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 7: You're coming off of a bye at home, Colorado coming 486 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 7: across the country playing heat, humidity, and you get destroyed. 487 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 7: That was well head scratching. And then you see them 488 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 7: against Florida. It kind of makes more sense. 489 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 6: If you watch kJ Jefferson's body language. So when you 490 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 6: run RPO with r J Harvey, right, you do the 491 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 6: you put the you put the biscuit in the basket, 492 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 6: in the in the in the running back stomach, and 493 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 6: then you can pull and go and when you let 494 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 6: your running back take it and he goes, you're supposed 495 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 6: to still fake the play. 496 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 8: You're still supposed to pull back. 497 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 6: And run the other way and give that element of 498 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 6: a fake for defensive contain. kJ Jefferson does not move 499 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 6: after every handoff. He doesn't care about helping to block. 500 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 6: He doesn't care about finishing the play. I've never seen 501 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 6: him that checked out in my life. I mean, listen 502 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 6: there against Colorado, he finished plays. Just go back and 503 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 6: watch the tape against Florida literally hand it off and 504 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 6: stood there like a statue. And even the times RJ. 505 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 6: Harvey was stuffed, kJ is not gonna help block. I 506 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 6: mean something, you're right, I mean hitting the portal. Wide 507 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 6: receivers scored a touchdown hitting the portal. Something's really bad 508 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 6: with UCF and they're gonna be unbettable for a while. 509 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 2: All right, Moving on, Aaron from Nebraska, I think you 510 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: guys should make a least a decree for this whole season. 511 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: That app state should be just thrown in the trash. 512 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: Just stop betting them. Holy wow, stuck, don't even reach 513 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 2: in that trash. Don't like be it raccoon and just 514 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 2: nibble on it. No, they're just trash. Leave them there. 515 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: Holy wow. 516 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 7: I will say that. Yeah, I gotta dig more into 517 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 7: that that game, but uh, I will say that there 518 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 7: they were in a tough spot with the storms. I 519 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 7: hope everyone in that area is doing okay. How the 520 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 7: like the reservoirs of the water coming down, combine that 521 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 7: with great with gravity just ravished some towns and Boone 522 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 7: got hit really hard. So like they were, they were 523 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 7: in a bad spot as preparation wise, and probably other 524 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 7: things going on h with just mentally. So I don't 525 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 7: know if I want to dock them too much. But 526 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 7: the game against South Alabama was Yeah, obviously Fortina couldn't 527 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 7: stop the run last year. That's That's what I'm worried about. 528 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 7: By the way, do you see our are Arkansas State 529 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 7: boys with a last second win? Yeah, keeping some life? 530 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 7: They beat South Alabama some life for their Sun Belt 531 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 7: chances UL have in first place. I'll loan it two 532 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 7: and oh. 533 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 8: All right, not gonna be ninety to one anymore. 534 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 18: Guys, Oregon and Michigan State. I'm sitting here with an 535 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 18: Oregon minus twenty four ticket only to watch Dylan Gabriel 536 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 18: throw two interceptions in the end zone and then Michigan 537 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 18: State score a meaningless field goal with thirty seconds left 538 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 18: and lose. 539 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 13: All the while I have to watch a stupid game 540 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 13: that's been over since the first half instead of watching 541 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 13: Syracuse UNLB, which is a legitimately awesome game. Michigan State 542 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 13: Oregon doesn't have a killer instinct. Dude, They're not going 543 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 13: to win anything this year Oregon. 544 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 7: I can't figure out what's wrong with Oregon, Like just 545 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 7: it's the everything is just a little off. I think 546 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 7: they just miss bo Nicks's legs right, and like his 547 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 7: mobility and the QB run threat. I think that element 548 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 7: missing from the offense. And then Gabriel has not been 549 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 7: great either, I mean with the red zone picks. But 550 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 7: I think that's like what I'm seeing that's missing I got. Obviously, 551 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 7: we're gonna do a deep, deep dive into both teams, 552 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 7: which I'm looking forward to do because we kind of 553 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 7: got some a little more data points. You know, they 554 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 7: haven't been the best bar Ohio State, but they both 555 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 7: played Michigan State similar games as far as score, except 556 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 7: Jonathan Smith kicked the field goal late unfortunately for you. 557 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 7: But yeah, we're gonna deep dive because that's a huge game. 558 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 7: Well next weekend, so won't spen spend too much time, 559 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 7: But what we. 560 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 8: Got similar to Bo Nicks. 561 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 6: Dylan Gabriel's averaged up the tar at his six point 562 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 6: five yards, not similar to Bo Nicks. Already four turnover 563 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 6: worthy plays, two of them coming inst Michigan State. This 564 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 6: is why I did not understand the steam on fourteen 565 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 6: to one on the Heisman all the way down to 566 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 6: like seven to one preseason. I just I never understood 567 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 6: it because Dylan Gabriel has never shown that he can 568 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 6: take an elite step up, even in offense like Oklahoma. 569 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 7: So do you know his the odds on favor right now? 570 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 7: Who is her Heisman? 571 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 8: No, I don't know. 572 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 6: I don't know who who is? It's not Jalen is 573 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 6: it Travis Hunter? 574 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 7: It's Genty right now? It is don't want to be 575 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 7: at the top of this leader board, you don't, but 576 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 7: it's Genty. I think he's like, what if I see 577 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 7: the day he's super low. It's like, uh, let's see 578 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 7: gent is plus two hundred. 579 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 8: Oh good rach. 580 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 6: Travis Hunter didn't even play any with from seven to 581 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 6: one to three to one. 582 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, they I mean Nico, that's done. Uh mil Rose 583 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 7: Chance obviously took a hit, but uh Genty, I The 584 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 7: thing is, I have to respect Boise. They won sixty 585 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 7: two to thirty genty depending on the number you got. 586 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 7: He did go under. He went thirteen for one eighty 587 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 7: six and three touchdowns. His numbers are huge. He doesn't 588 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 7: play in the second half. He didn't play the second half. 589 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 7: He went for one eighty six and three touchdown. Guess 590 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 7: Portland State. They didn't play a second So I respect 591 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 7: boys doing that because they're not they're not trying to. 592 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 7: The kid also has an NFL future. They could easily 593 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 7: just run him into the ground or like, hey, let's 594 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 7: get you a heisman, still got a shout to do that. 595 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 7: But they have bigger aspirations, right They want to win 596 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 7: the Mount West, they want to go to the cots 597 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 7: Bawl Puff, So they're not gonna They're not running him 598 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 7: into the ground in these games where they're gonna win 599 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 7: by thirty. So uh, And he's still putting up nearly 600 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 7: two hundred pops. So yeah, he's your new favorite Travis 601 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 7: Hunter behind him. But yeah, a long way Togo with 602 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 7: the heisman. As you can see, dude, there's just gonna 603 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 7: be chaos. And then quote a big quarterback was a 604 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 7: big game drop dropped. 605 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 29: Moving on Colin is stuck. 606 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 30: Nice call, okayl spread, by the way, won me some money, 607 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 30: but I also had Kyle's money lie in the parlay 608 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 30: with Arkansas, Minnesota, San Jose State, Washington, Florida, and Georgia Tech. 609 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 30: I don't even know where to begin. 610 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 25: How do you not call a targeting on that play? 611 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 25: And it's like nobody knows what targeting is. 612 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 30: I'm just pissed. I would have won so much money. 613 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 25: That makes sense. 614 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 7: I agree by Miami comes back, anyone who's I was 615 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 7: up watching, I can never go to sleep for the 616 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 7: last game. And it's the disease that I've had since 617 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 7: I was a kid. I watched that game. Everyone's gonna 618 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 7: wake on Miami one. They were down twenty five in 619 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 7: that game, and I was like, I don't know, and 620 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 7: I tweeted out, I don't know if that's what's gonna 621 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 7: be called it, And everyone's telling me it's textbook targeting. 622 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 7: I said, I just sat here for fifteen hours watching 623 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 7: college football. I've seen targeting called fifty different ways called 624 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 7: and not and no one knows. The refs don't know. 625 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 7: It's all made up. They like, seriously, that to me, 626 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 7: that textbook wise like the definition, Like I didn't that 627 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 7: was probably targeting, but it's not. 628 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 8: I don't. 629 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 7: I mean, no one knows. Seriously, no one knows what 630 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 7: targeting is. It's like back in the day of the NFL, 631 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 7: no one knew when no one knew what a catch 632 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 7: was for a while, no one knows what targeting is. 633 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 7: It's completely subjective on a game by game basis, and 634 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 7: Miami wins the game because of it. Uh so, but 635 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 7: cam Ward I did, I did call cam Wore, I 636 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 7: tweeted out, Oh god, I got to hear these announcers 637 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 7: talk about dam Moore being common until he throws a 638 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 7: third quarter pick six. What do you know, first first 639 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 7: possession of the third quarter he throws a pick six. Yep, 640 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 7: our underdog gods, will Cox and Sammy Pittman. 641 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 6: I mean, through what other podcast had somebody say, I think, 642 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 6: no Williams is going to pick cam the Ward off 643 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 6: and take one back. 644 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 8: See if you can find a prop. I was shocked 645 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 8: when I saw Old Williams. 646 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 6: I was like, man, the numbers say it's going to happen, 647 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 6: but holy shit, it actually happened. Oh and by the way, 648 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 6: shocker acc ref crew helping Miami get to the window. 649 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 7: I'm not surprised, not sold on that team. I don't 650 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 7: think they haven't. I don't think that national title upside. 651 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 6: Not when George's defensive line got healthy, if they met 652 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 6: them in the playoff. 653 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 7: No thanks, Noe, and it's Mario. Mario tried to give 654 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 7: a game the game away too with his clock management. 655 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 7: That again, will Cox burning the time out was bad too. 656 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 7: I'm like third and twenty, Miami got it anyway. He 657 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 7: needed that late to give him a shot at the 658 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 7: field goal. But Miami does survive. That was going to 659 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 7: be the fifth top ten or eleven upset of the day, 660 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 7: but they do get to win. Coal gets to cover 661 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 7: in woke first coke. All right, moving on, I mean, 662 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 7: this is team. 663 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 11: This kid is taking some of the worst sacks I've 664 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 11: ever seen in my wife, standing in the pocket like 665 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 11: nothing's going on, like the Friday walks through game on 666 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 11: the line. Fourth and twenty. We complete up pass to 667 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 11: keep the game alive. And then it's third and twenty 668 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 11: after Dick's another awful sack, and we complete an eighteen 669 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 11: yard pass fourth and two. Surely we're gonna call it 670 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 11: best play in the playbook right. 671 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 27: A bubble screen. 672 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 11: Are you kidding me? That's when we dropped what's this 673 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 11: coach's name, Timmy Chang. I can't believe why I saw. 674 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 11: And then we dog three timeouts because we're using them 675 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 11: on defense for no reason. 676 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: What a joke? 677 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, just real quick. 678 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 6: On Hawaii, we lost our first nowhere fast by just 679 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 6: a couple of points they got made it to fifty one. 680 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 6: I think we closed it forty nine, so we'll take 681 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 6: that one. Why you made it a game? 682 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 8: Gave it up at the end. 683 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 7: Not only do we lose the. 684 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 6: Hawaii plus two also lost the under so craziness in 685 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 6: the Mountain West. 686 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 31: Every time there's a Penn State game, How the do 687 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 31: we not know that this team is just never it? 688 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 31: The first couple of games they faced, pop James Franklin runs. 689 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: Up the score. 690 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 31: Oh yeah, Penn State's good this year. But Jane Franklin 691 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 31: can never count on that guy. Whatever side you're on, 692 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 31: if you're on his side. The two small games, James, 693 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 31: I hate this guy. He has cash few His. 694 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 20: Message is for Stuckey and James Franklin. We're on the 695 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 20: goal line to not have covered. Just push twenty eight 696 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 20: with six minutes left, have me able to stop through 697 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 20: aler and third down in the red zone the whole game. 698 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 13: Let's throw the. 699 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 20: Backup in this. There has to be point shaving. If 700 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 20: James Franklin gets found out by the mob, take him 701 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 20: out to the Atlantic. Oh, the Great Lakes. They might 702 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 20: be close to there too. 703 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 704 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: Hey, James Franklin, apparently there's two morons on a podcast 705 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: that think that you know what the spread is and 706 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: that you're just gonna put the hammer down like that 707 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: out there in Bloomington in But apparently you haven't gotten 708 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: the memo that you need to beat the out of 709 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 1: other teams and win with margin to help not only 710 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: US degenerates, but to maybe help your case with getting 711 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Go yourself, James Franklin, I just my 712 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: rant of the week. 713 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 7: I throw my hands out. I don't know. I can't. 714 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 7: I cannot get a Penn State side right. It's been years. 715 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 7: I used to fade them as a favorite. I would 716 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 7: get a good number and they would cover either And 717 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 7: you say that, James reckless, No the spread, it would 718 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 7: do fake knees against me. Now, the last two weeks 719 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 7: I backed Penn State had a minus seventeen against OI 720 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 7: closes eighteen minus twenty seven and a half. This week 721 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 7: close is thirty. Doesn't matter you sli backup quarterback, backup 722 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 7: offensive lineman. They shift and doesn't matter. I mean yeah, 723 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 7: and on third down a chance to it would have 724 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 7: covered for me. I had twenty seven. They take out 725 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 7: Alan just QB running. I sick of Penn State. I 726 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 7: gotta I can't bet their games. I can never get 727 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 7: them right. I think Franklin. Honestly, my only explanation is 728 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 7: I have clowned Franklin so much that he listens to 729 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 7: the podcast and he finds out what I bet, and 730 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 7: then he just ensures that I don't cover. That's my 731 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 7: only explanation. 732 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,959 Speaker 6: There's a real chance that that might actually be true 733 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 6: every time. 734 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 7: So Penn State USC this week. 735 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, I've already bought him, Penn State. 736 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 7: I'm gonna be relying on you. Yeah, I've already I 737 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 7: can't bet fen State. I can't bet it. 738 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 8: I got rely on me. 739 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 6: But you're not gonna bet it. 740 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 7: No, I mean like, I can't bet the side. Uh, 741 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 7: but I might if you convince me. I'll see if 742 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 7: you can convince me. I'm gonna I'm gonna take a 743 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 7: look at the total. 744 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 6: Well, it's Sunday morning. It's I got it at three. 745 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 6: It's a three and a half. I think it's gonna 746 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 6: get up to about five and a half. We'll see, 747 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 6: We'll see where the number goes. 748 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 9: Calling in ten beers deep outside the bar, dude, I 749 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 9: knew Stucky was due for a good day after the 750 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 9: last week, but the only bet I tailed from that 751 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 9: is Penn State minus twenty seven and a half. And listen, 752 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 9: I thought that James Fraangler played for covers, but no, 753 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 9: the Bruins coming hot to happen? 754 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: Really pennsick cook the cover. 755 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 17: Hey boys, I know it's not even a halftime yet, 756 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 17: but my underproduis constant forty four and a half is 757 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 17: just cooked. There needs to be an internal investigation against 758 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 17: producer Turner with tons quarterback sitting at home freaking making 759 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 17: my own gen Jimmy John Substan, I'm trying to save money. 760 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 3: News flash, wife, Deli meets like ten bucks a pounds 761 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 3: over have a good night day. 762 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 25: I don't care. 763 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 6: Fix and Kamala sandwich meats should not be ten dollars 764 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 6: a pound. 765 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 12: I'm here to let it fall out, are you kidding 766 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 12: me Tennessee. Tennessee's right there. Their quarterback, Nico whatever the 767 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 12: hell is last name, said that he was gonna win 768 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 12: the Heisman. Nico's sitting there at the end of the game, 769 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 12: and the guy doesn't even throw it in the in zone. 770 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 32: He doesn't even give anybody a chance. 771 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 12: All of us who are sitting there with Tennessee money line. 772 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 12: He doesn't even give his guys a chance because nothing 773 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 12: he runs out of bounce. 774 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 13: Are you kidding me? 775 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 12: They suck? Never bet on Tennessee. Never give advice to 776 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 12: bet on Tennessee. You shouldn't advise anybody about that. 777 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 7: Well, we did news. You'll never hear that from me, 778 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 7: advice to bet on Tennessee. I was finally correct there 779 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 7: and yeah, so you got to throw the ball up Niko. 780 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 7: He's just a kid cut in some slack, but heipel. 781 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 7: I mean, what do they have like ten yards in 782 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 7: the first half. Yeah, I was worried because I was like, 783 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 7: oh my god, Arkansas is dominating this game. Was the 784 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 7: only up three to nothing. 785 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 6: And they left seventeen points off the board. 786 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 8: No God, but. 787 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 6: The defensive Travis Williams, defensive coordinator for Arkansas, just blindsided 788 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 6: the Tennessee offense twenty eight percent success rate for Tennessee 789 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 6: and passing downs. You got to be able to sling 790 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 6: a second third down when you get behind the chains 791 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 6: twenty eight percent. They averaged three point nine yards in 792 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 6: passing downs. Here's one I couldn't believe. Tennessee did not 793 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 6: create a single methodical drive and eleven offensive possessions. That 794 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 6: means they never had one drive that had ten plays. 795 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 6: They only created one explosive. These are not good numbers whatsoever. 796 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 6: Thirty eight percent of available yards to Arkansas's fifty four 797 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 6: percent of available yards. 798 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 8: Listen the Tennessee offense. 799 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 6: I think it was best said on the telecast, is 800 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 6: you play stiff defense, you force a three and out. 801 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 6: You don't let this road team has been off for 802 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 6: two weeks and get into rhythm, which you know, as 803 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 6: funny is you were saying all week like Josh Hipel 804 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,439 Speaker 6: best first half cover like, but the whole thing about 805 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 6: Mike Leach like still sits inside of me. When you 806 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 6: get these veer and shoot air raid. 807 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 8: Offenses, it I'm off. 808 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's still when you're a timing offense. I still 809 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 6: think it's a good shot for us as better as 810 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 6: to go against that in the first half. 811 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, that's a good point. By the way, Big 812 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 7: twelve more chaos. Kansas is a snake bit. I mean, 813 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 7: I've never seen a team just every week just lose 814 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 7: in heartbreaking fashion. Oh, Oaks State is a corpse. I 815 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 7: watched that game. I had West Virginia watch that entire game. 816 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 7: Oak State was lifeless, lifeless. It was a sad effort. 817 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 7: I mean, UCF looked lifeless. 818 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 8: Yep. 819 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 7: Here's who's in first. You know it's in first place 820 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 7: the Big twelve, Texas Tech. The other undefeated teams in 821 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 7: the Big twelve are Texas Tech, BYU, Iowa State, Colorado, 822 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 7: and West Virginia. You got Kansas State at five hundred. 823 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 7: Arizona wins and loses, wins at Utah, then loses to 824 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 7: Texas Tech. UCF looks like a corpse. Houston beats TCU. 825 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 7: It is just chaos. Baylor's a corpse. So how big 826 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 7: Iowa State gits there for us? 827 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 8: How big is Kansas State? Colorado? Is a game? 828 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 6: Just to see who's going to join Iowa State here. 829 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 6: I mean, somebody's got to pop out here, somebody's got 830 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 6: to show out. 831 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 7: Underrated game though, this week too, is Iowa State at 832 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 7: West Virginia. Yeah, uh, that'll be a good one that 833 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 7: we'll talk about this week. 834 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,479 Speaker 12: All right, moving on, Oh we sha with Rocky Top 835 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 12: Now where they. 836 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 32: Josh hype. Well, that fat doesn't know how to coach. 837 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 32: He's sucks ass. Arkansas, in typical fashion, try to throw 838 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,240 Speaker 32: the same way. Here you go, Tennessee, Here you go Tennessee. 839 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 27: Five hundred yards to. 840 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 32: Two yards at the end of the first half and 841 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,479 Speaker 32: we're only up three. 842 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 15: We're gonna lose. 843 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 27: Nope, Nope, the power of Sammy's best part about today 844 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 27: was finally calling Arkansas did something big win stuck looking 845 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 27: like you're gonna go ten and oh, appreciate the picks, 846 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 27: Appreciate the pod. And next week Oregon's gonna dominate and 847 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 27: beat the hell out of Ohio State, which will be 848 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 27: shown as a fraud. Thanks boys, Oh you know who 849 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 27: this is. It's right Ford, A happy Saturday, James. 850 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 25: Listen. This is not more of a personal type of voice, 851 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 25: but I just wanted to give it a shout out, 852 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 25: a hug and a king raps to Colin. Listen, you 853 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 25: guys sit here and you grind your asses off, and 854 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 25: you do all these gamblings, but at the end of 855 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 25: the day, you guys got teams that you cheer for. 856 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 25: It Now, they're not as good as the team I 857 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 25: chaired for a high state's best team in the country. 858 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 25: But nevertheless, dude, Colin, that's a great win man. I'm 859 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 25: so happy you. Much love, much love to you guys. 860 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 25: Just by the way, if you don't bat Ohio State 861 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 25: that's coming Saturday, I'm really sorry about you losing money. 862 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 7: That's it. I like those back to back calls saying 863 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 7: Oregon it's gonna roll and you better not bet Oregon. 864 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 7: So we'll see where we end up going. 865 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, Martin, Ohio State would be a seventeen point favorite 866 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 6: over Arkansas on neutral. So yeah, no worry about my 867 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 6: hogs stepping up on your porch. 868 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 8: Don't worry about. 869 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 7: It, all right, fun show, This is a good week 870 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 7: with the pod. Hopefully keep it going. It's gonna be 871 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 7: good week. It's gonna be bad Weeks's just how it works. Fortunately, 872 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 7: this is a bit more pleasant this week after a 873 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 7: good weekend, so that's always nice. But yeah, last week 874 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 7: was last week. It's all about next week now, stay humble, 875 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 7: keep grinding. So thanks to Colin for joining me as always, 876 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 7: thanks to all the voicemail callers nine five nine Bad Beat. 877 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 7: Thanks to our producers. By the way, YouTube channel BBOC 878 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 7: help us grow that. Even if you don't watch things 879 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 7: on our YouTube channel, just go there and hit subscribe. 880 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 7: That'll help us out. You know the drill. Subscribe on subscribe, subscribe, 881 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 7: tell friend, telling enemy, new bcs. We'll be back. How 882 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 7: safe is Sammy Pittman? Now it's sunny, Nike's gotta go. 883 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 7: We'll talk some coaching stuff, We'll talk some Heisman, We'll 884 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 7: do some trivia talk, some other higher level stuff. Group 885 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 7: of five guys, we sadly can't talk about Diego Pobby 886 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 7: as much as they want to since I've stolen him. 887 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 7: They'll be back midwek and then Klin will be back 888 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 7: with the entire Week seven college football betting preview great Slate. 889 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 7: Week eight might be even better. We're in the thicke 890 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 7: of it now, so it's time for us to go 891 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 7: get to work. By some winners. We will see you 892 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 7: later this week. Cheers. 893 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 8: Peace Out. 894 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 11: Action Network reminds you please gamble responsibly. 895 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 14: If you or someone you care about has a gambling problem, 896 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 14: help is available twenty four to seven at one eight 897 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 14: hundred gambler