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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. There's Charles w

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, I'm Josh Clark, there's Jerry over there. Um,

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Speaker 1: and this is the the short stuff where we improve

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Speaker 1: your life for the better. Yeah, one of our few

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Speaker 1: sort of auto centric. We don't do this kind of stuff. No,

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Speaker 1: this is we leave this to the car talk guys.

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Speaker 1: God rest one of their souls. They were great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were great. And you know, Hodgement, always John Hodge

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Speaker 1: and our friend always, very sincerely said that he thought

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Speaker 1: we had sort of the most natural repport since he

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Speaker 1: had heard clicking clack. I forgot about that. That's a

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Speaker 1: high compliment. Is a high compliment, thanks Hodgment. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: this one's a little ironic because I am so far

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Speaker 1: overdue for an oil change. It's embarrassing. It's hilarious. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's bad. I do the opposite. I show up. I'm

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Speaker 1: like as a time. Yet really they're like, yes, sure,

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Speaker 1: I guess man, I'm so are behind. And the main

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Speaker 1: reason is because I don't want to go to one

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Speaker 1: of those I won't mention brands, but one of the

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Speaker 1: no appointment necessary. We can do it in thirty minutes

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Speaker 1: and you're out of here places, right, and you have

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Speaker 1: to give them like the routing number and your bank

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Speaker 1: account because you owe them so much money when you leave. Well,

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Speaker 1: and it's just like you know, there's horror stories of

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Speaker 1: recommended to not go to those places. So I want

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Speaker 1: how you feel. I gotta do it. Do you have

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Speaker 1: a good mechanic? Uh? Well, not since I've gotten the

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Speaker 1: other sort of stand by mechanic and it's not like

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Speaker 1: I go to the same place. But it's not like

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Speaker 1: my my l A mechanic because I had an old,

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Speaker 1: old junker car. Like we knew each other really well

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Speaker 1: because I was there a lot, so me and Jimmy

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Speaker 1: were pals. But I'm not pals with my mechanics. Now.

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Speaker 1: That's why I hesitated when you said, do you have

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Speaker 1: all right, Chuck, Well, how do you know you need

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Speaker 1: an oil change. This is my first question. There may

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Speaker 1: be more. Well, there's a few ways. Um you mean,

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Speaker 1: how do I know right now? Yes? Oh, because I

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Speaker 1: am thousands of miles over even the highest recommended limit. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, Well wait a minute. Does your car have

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Speaker 1: one of those um oil life indicators? Yes? Okay, has

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Speaker 1: it come on yet? Oh? It came on about months

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Speaker 1: ago and it says zero percent on there, which freaked

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Speaker 1: me out at first, because, as you will learn right

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Speaker 1: now everyone, if you have a newer car, there are

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Speaker 1: two lights. One that says, hey, you need an oil change,

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Speaker 1: you can. That is why I'm really crazy about oil changes. Now,

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Speaker 1: is I have I've done that. I've driven until the

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Speaker 1: engine was like done. See you, thank you for my life? Yep? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what that means everyone. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: They can't just like loop it back up again and

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Speaker 1: Remember the Peep? Sure great place. Was it worth it?

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Speaker 1: How's that brunch? Oh? It was totally worth it. It

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding. So um, we should really specify. I wanted

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Speaker 1: you said it, but we really need to make clear.

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Speaker 1: There are two different oil lights in a newer car.

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Speaker 1: One is, hey, it's time for you to go get

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Speaker 1: really not worth like, oh, I think I can make

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Speaker 1: because they want that money. Baby. Yeah. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: And so modern cars, you know, you can't really tell

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Speaker 1: But with so with that oil indicator, like what it's doing,

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Speaker 1: Chuck is it's it's analyzing how you drive. It's checking

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Speaker 1: That's a big one because they're still saying three thou

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Speaker 1: It's a sales gimmick. Okay, that's two. Step one. Step

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Speaker 1: Like if if America's cars, of all the cars on

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Speaker 1: It's right, it breaks down the antioxidants in your engine.

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Speaker 1: You got anything else, really, Man, I think the keys

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Speaker 1: here of this, Chuck, listen to your oil um life

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Speaker 1: do have one other thing, Chuck knew it. If you

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Speaker 1: manual recommends between oil changes a year, you still want

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Speaker 1: owner's manual probably recommend a time frame two and usually

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Speaker 1: that's six months, so you probably just want to change

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Speaker 1: it every six months at least because oil does break

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