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Speaker 1: Falcons fans. What's up.

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Speaker 2: It is Day two of the NFL Draft. We have

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Speaker 2: just wrapped. It is twelve twenty seven am. I'm here

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Speaker 2: with Tory mclaney to briefly go over what the Falcons

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Speaker 2: did on Day two, another trade which landed them a

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Speaker 2: player that they feel really, really good about. So we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get into real quick our thoughts on Xavier Watts.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a bigger picture kind of recap of

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Speaker 2: the entire draft after Round three concludes on Saturday. So

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Speaker 2: whether you want to hear that Saturday evening or Sunday

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Speaker 2: when you're taking a break from everything, or Monday, if

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Speaker 2: honestly like that's the healthiest choice, I think so too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it do it on Monday.

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Speaker 3: That's my recommendation, Monday morning, driving into work exactly.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna quickly Xavier Watts. Tory, what was your like?

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Speaker 2: I can see it in your face. I already know

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Speaker 2: the answer to this. Tell us how excited you were

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Speaker 2: that Davier Wats was the pick.

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Speaker 4: I was so excited.

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Speaker 3: If you guys know, I picked Exavier Watts in the

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Speaker 3: second round of my seven round mock draft when I

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Speaker 3: acquired a second second round pick. He is somebody who

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Speaker 3: I have written about a couple of times because I've

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Speaker 3: name dropped a couple on podcasts a couple of times,

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Speaker 3: because I think in terms of defensive impact players, there

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Speaker 3: is arguably none at the safety position that had the year,

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Speaker 3: or let's be honest, the two years that Xavier Watts

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Speaker 3: has had with Notre Dame. And I mean I can

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Speaker 3: talk about the stat line alone, thirteen interceptions, thirty one

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Speaker 3: passes defended. And this is also a guy who as

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Speaker 3: the nearest defender never gave up a touchdown catch Like

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Speaker 3: this is someone who I have thoroughly even before I

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Speaker 3: went into draft evaluations, like even before I really started

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Speaker 3: thinking about this stuff just watching him play at Notre

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Speaker 3: Dame when Notre Dame is kind of ascending amongst the

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Speaker 3: college football ranks.

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Speaker 2: I have so keenan you Notre Dame in Texas, Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame in Tech year you've been. I just know all

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Speaker 2: about Texas players.

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Speaker 3: Right because if everybody should know Matthew Golden. I loved

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Speaker 3: watching Matthew Golden, Texas guy I very much with.

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Speaker 4: With Xavier Watts, I did.

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Speaker 3: Not think that he was going to be available to

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Speaker 3: the Falcons at all. When the Falcons did not have

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Speaker 3: a second round pick, I was like, that's it. No

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Speaker 3: Xavier Watts for Atlanta. I'm sad, but you know, you

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Speaker 3: move on.

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Speaker 4: You can't have them all.

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Speaker 3: But then to see them put the trade together that

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Speaker 3: they did to move up to ninety six, give up

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Speaker 3: the one pick that they acquired with the trade with

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six to move up to pick ninety

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Speaker 3: six five spots, five spots where the Philadelphia Eagles were

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Speaker 3: originally picking, to get Xavier Watts.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was pretty over the moon about it.

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Speaker 3: I was almost like the palpable excitement of which I

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Speaker 3: Xavier watches somebody who you talk about draft crushes a lot,

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Speaker 3: like I know you and Maxwell Harrison that was yours.

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Speaker 3: Everybody gets, yeah, wishing well, but everyone gets that person

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Speaker 3: that the farther they dig in, the more they dig in,

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Speaker 3: the more they watch film and everything, they just fall

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Speaker 3: you fall in love with them.

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Speaker 4: Xavier Wats was that player for me and I can talk.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can talk NonStop about why, but I

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Speaker 3: just think he's I mean, he's such a playmaker and

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Speaker 3: for what he lacks maybe in size or speed or

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Speaker 3: athletic ability, he makes up for in toughness, in leadership,

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Speaker 3: in football, IQ in instincts. That's something that I spoke

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Speaker 3: to position coaches and area scouts about literally tonight, probably

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Speaker 3: an hour ago. This is someone who has instincts that

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Speaker 3: I don't think you can teach. He just has them.

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Speaker 3: And I want you to ask me a little bit.

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Speaker 2: About Yeah, like you're trying to get me the ball back.

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Speaker 2: I can see in your eyes it's so hard. But

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Speaker 2: I well, here, I'll just talk right over you go

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Speaker 2: go No. I love what you said about the draft crushes,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's interesting in my experience, like I've kind

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Speaker 2: just come away with the guy and people aren't talking

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Speaker 2: about as much. Yeah, and Xavier Watts is one percent

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Speaker 2: that person for you this year and for good reason.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the instincts and the playmaking ability, Like obviously

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Speaker 2: we've seen Jesse Bates have that in spades, but adding

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Speaker 1: He's played fifty.

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Speaker 2: Five games at Notre Dame, I mean big, big football,

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Speaker 2: like against the best of the best, and he has

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Speaker 2: picked him off more than anybody else in the last

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Speaker 2: two years. That is something that I think the Falcons

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Speaker 2: keyed on. Yeah, they said that's worth getting in the

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Speaker 2: third round, right, because when you get to this point,

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Speaker 2: everybody's got a question mark or two, whether it be

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Speaker 2: athletically or whether it be production wise. Right, So to

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Speaker 2: last two years. Like that's the company that he's in.

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Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, more interceptions than Travis Hunter too,

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Speaker 2: So out there right. I think Xavier Watts is a

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Speaker 2: great pick, But I what do you think his potential

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Speaker 2: Marcohellum's coming back, Like, how do you see all that

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Speaker 4: I feel pretty good about it.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I think that he is really going to compete

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Speaker 3: for a starting spot. I think that, yes, Jordan Fuller

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Speaker 3: To Marco Hellms, it's unfortunate, you know that he had

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Speaker 3: like he was on an upward trajectory. But I feel

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Speaker 4: And I've said that before he was even on this team.

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Speaker 3: And I think I want to talk a little bit

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Speaker 4: In his game and the way that.

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Speaker 3: He plays the game is this is a guy who

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Speaker 3: So this is someone who hasn't played safety very very long,

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Speaker 3: but because of the experiences that he had as a receiver,

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Speaker 3: in his journey, and not only in his journey, but

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Speaker 4: You see the ball skills that's wide receiver through and through.

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Speaker 3: You see the angles he takes on a running back,

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Speaker 3: talking very highly of this guy because I feel to

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Speaker 3: the point of the question that you're asking is like,

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Speaker 3: can he be a starter even in year one? I

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Speaker 3: think he has a good shot because of the instincts,

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Speaker 3: shown over the last two seasons, only two seasons as

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Speaker 4: Full time safe since exactly. I don't know how he

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Speaker 1: Third round crazy.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I'm not gonna what is it?

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Speaker 4: Don't look a gift horse in the mouse mouth. Whatever

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Speaker 4: the saying is not mouse that mouth it is. It

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Speaker 4: is twelve thirty in the morning. I'm losing it, but

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited about this pic. I really am.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love what you said.

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Speaker 2: He's an amalgamation of his experiences at different positions, right,

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Speaker 2: And that's a word, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about it the whole time.

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Speaker 4: That's a ten dollars word right there.

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Speaker 2: You asked me what you just said. I couldn't answer you,

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Speaker 2: but I can say the word amalgamation. I think that

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, if you are in a restaurant

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Speaker 2: so I think that that is a position uniquely suited

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Speaker 2: to allow experiences to sometimes true trump athleticism and We've

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Speaker 2: seen it again with Jesse Bates. No slight to his athleticism,

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Speaker 2: Like he's fifty times the athlete I will ever be

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Speaker 4: Still in the top one percent.

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Speaker 1: Good job, but.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's the combination of that good enough functional

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Speaker 2: anticipate yes. And again, if we're talking about being a

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Speaker 2: is very, very notable in that direction because he's not

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Speaker 2: he's a two year starter at safety. But like, he's

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Speaker 2: played a lot of football, and he's played a lot

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Speaker 2: and I again, I think that he's going to be

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Speaker 2: feel pretty good about adding three defensive players you would

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Speaker 2: expect to make an impact in twenty twenty five, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean if they're not, something's gone wrong, you know, Like,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's that's where I land. I know,

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Speaker 3: yesterday we were talking with Rackley and he asked kind

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Speaker 3: of like your thoughts your feelings. They went back and

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Speaker 3: they got two first round head dressers like, whoo, let's go.

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Speaker 3: What's your optimism? And I set a seven and I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna like go back on that, but I am

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Speaker 3: feeling the longer this thing goes. It's been twenty four

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Speaker 3: hours since those decisions were made, those picks were made.

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Speaker 3: We had the chance to speak with Jalen Walker today.

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Speaker 3: We had the chance to speak with James Spears Junior.

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Speaker 4: Today.

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Speaker 3: We got the chance to see the Falcons move back

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Speaker 3: up in the third round a few spots and get

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Speaker 3: someone like an Xavier Watts. If I'm a fan and

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Speaker 3: I'm watching the Falcons do these things, I am really

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Speaker 3: excited about what this defense could look like, especially after

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Speaker 3: speaking with Jeff Ulbrick last night as.

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Speaker 1: Well, and he's like the winner of the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Truly is the biggest winner of this whole entire weekend

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Speaker 3: across the league. Jeff Olbrick and I really want to

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Speaker 3: So I think, like that interview, go just go watch

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so where do we think the Falcons can go

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Speaker 4: We were sitting around a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, lovely rainstorm, lovely storm.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, er you played some games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll they'll be picking much much quicker, thankfully. Who

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Speaker 2: Now that they've tripled dipts? On the defense.

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Speaker 3: You can go back defense. I am standing firm in

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Speaker 4: I think you still have.

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Speaker 3: A lot of good options at defensive tackle that I

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Speaker 4: Do what you can, and then I'll be a Okay,

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Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, I think I think defensive tackle makes sense.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna siver.

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Speaker 4: I knew you're saying You're about to say it.

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Speaker 2: That's the run I expect to start in round four,

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Speaker 1: Which.

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Speaker 2: We've been together for a while, ladies and gentlemen, so

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Speaker 2: many hours. I you know, I would expect them to

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Speaker 1: Maybe not.

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Speaker 2: They just want safety, hey, but that type of a profile.

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Speaker 2: So we will be back tomorrow, Saturday. It's really confusing

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Speaker 2: me because I keep looking at my.

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Speaker 4: Computer right now and it says Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But we will be back man in mere hours to

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Speaker 2: recap the entire twenty twenty five draft. I can't believe

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Speaker 2: I'm saying those words. It has been a long draft season.

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Speaker 2: We really appreciate you guys following along bear through it

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Speaker 2: to the finish line with us, because we've got our

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Speaker 2: picks tracker, We've got analysis on every pick. It's been

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Speaker 2: with you all. So for Tory mclaney, I am Will McFadden.

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Speaker 2: We will see you all tomorrow for the conclusion of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.

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Speaker 4: Let's go