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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is a John your og

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Speaker 2: My ex's ex wife tried to befriend me, but I

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Speaker 2: want nothing to do with her.

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Speaker 3: So complicated of a love trying Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I thirty six female, dated my ex boyfriend Dwayne thirty

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Speaker 2: seven male, for a year and a half. He has

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Speaker 2: a daughter, Millie, eleven from a previous marriage. Dwayne and

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Speaker 2: I met in elementary school and we were childhood friends

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Speaker 2: who grew up in the same town. While we grew apart,

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Speaker 2: we bumped into each other all the time in town

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Speaker 2: and had a lot of mutual friends. By the way,

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Speaker 2: At the beginning of our relationship, Dwayne did not have

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Speaker 2: visitation rights to his daughter due to a custody battle

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Speaker 2: going on with his ex at the time. This was

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Speaker 2: a red flag for me, but I knew it was

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Speaker 2: a contentious divorce and they were in and out of

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Speaker 2: court frequently for years over custody. So I noted the

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Speaker 2: red flag, but the custody battle was not unusual. When

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Speaker 2: he got approved for supervised visits, Dwayne invited me to attend.

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Speaker 2: I felt a little awkward about it at first. I

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Speaker 2: didn't want to intrude on Dwayne's limited time with his

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Speaker 2: explained he'd be more comfortable with another adult present, I

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Speaker 2: agreed to accompany him on the visits. The first few

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Speaker 2: visits were awkward having a social worker present, of course,

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Speaker 2: took getting used to. Dwayne and Milly both enjoy being outdoors,

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Speaker 2: so when the weather was nice we'd all hang out

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Speaker 2: in the yard while Milly played with the neighborhood kids.

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Speaker 2: One of her friends, Leanne, always stared daggers at me,

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Speaker 2: and eventually Milly told the supervisor Lisa that she didn't

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Speaker 2: know how to explain my presence to her friends. I

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Speaker 2: offered to stop coming if it made her uncomfortable, but

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Speaker 2: Milly quickly said it was a me, it was her

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Speaker 2: friends and their questions. It was decided she'd introduce me

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Speaker 2: to her friends as a friend of her dad's. When

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Speaker 2: she did this and they started including me in their games,

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Speaker 2: we all had a great time right. This became routine

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Speaker 2: and Milly and I got along really well. Her friends

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Speaker 2: also asked me to play games with them. The trouble

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Speaker 2: started when Dwayne's ex wife Amber started talking to me

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Speaker 2: at drop offs and pickups. Dwayne and Amber don't speak

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Speaker 2: directly to each other outside the presence of lawyers or

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Speaker 2: through a co parenting app so Amber would give Dwayne

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Speaker 2: He has a cold, so she's taking the medicine, eats

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Speaker 2: for it, et cetera. Dayne would ignore her and act

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Speaker 2: like she wasn't speaking and ask me later what Amber

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Speaker 2: That's a pleasing red flag. He's not listening to stuff

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Speaker 2: about his daughter. As a result, when Amber gave us

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Speaker 2: the rundown at switch offs, I would ask questions and

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Speaker 2: and me while Dwayne sulked beside. Millie was involved in

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Speaker 2: sports and some of the games fell during Dwayne's parenting time.

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Speaker 2: He was excited about this because he's very athletic and

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Speaker 2: other parents, and cheering on the team. Amber and Dwayne

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Speaker 2: both attended all the games. The two parents would compete

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Speaker 2: Dwayne would try to win over the parents sitting with

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Speaker 2: his ex. If Millie needed a water break, she struggled

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Speaker 2: with which parent to sit. I was always kind to Amber.

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Speaker 2: I'd say it hide her when I saw her. If

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Speaker 2: I'd wave her toward her mom and calm down her dad.

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Speaker 2: If it was Dwayne's parenting time, I'd waive her over

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Speaker 2: to Dwayne and give Amber a respectful nod. So, oh,

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Speaker 2: if he's just the mediator here, goodness, grash, that's frustrating.

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Speaker 2: That's so frustrating. If the other parents commented on Dwayne

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Speaker 2: and Amber's competitive cheering, I'd say something like, isn't it great?

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Speaker 2: and said, Hi, who was there? Watching her niece play.

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Speaker 2: I said it was dating Dwayne and we were watching

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Speaker 2: I'd walk over and chat with her during games. Nothing substantial,

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Speaker 2: Enough to acknowledge her presence in a civil manner. It

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Speaker 2: Amber didn't make a fuss about it. The same could

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Speaker 2: not be set for Dwayne, who got mad at me

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Speaker 2: for being friendly with his exfull he's the only one

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Speaker 2: who's trying to keep your parenting into act here. I

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Speaker 2: was just trying to make things easier for Milly. But

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Speaker 2: no sides, no sides, no sides, It's what's best for

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Speaker 2: the kid exactly. I told him I wasn't best friends

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Speaker 2: visitation back, his parenting style changed dramatically. He stopped buying

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Speaker 2: food for Milly, so when she came to her dad's

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Speaker 2: There were some coloring books and crayons given to her

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Speaker 2: by her grandparents. Other than that, Millie's entertainment consisted of

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Speaker 2: cheese and microwave chicken nuggets, as well as markers, colored pencils,

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Speaker 2: It got to the point where I was buying groceries

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Speaker 2: for Milly, making sure she ate playing with her and

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Speaker 2: keeping her entertained while Dwayne shot the crap with his

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Speaker 2: uh pleazing. I would have a conversation with him and

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Speaker 2: say like, either you need to freaking pay me back

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Speaker 2: for these groceries, or take care of your daughter. This

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Speaker 2: is your daughter, she is not my responsibility. When we

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Speaker 2: breakup started that night. We had an event for Milli

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Speaker 2: over that time, I discovered Dwayne had cheated on me

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Speaker 2: with at least two women. Oh. He came by to

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Speaker 2: but I was not persuaded. I blocked him everywhere and

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Speaker 2: actually disappointed, saying, you would have been the perfect stepmother

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Speaker 2: for my daughter. I was honestly more heartbroken to lose

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Speaker 2: Millie than to lose my ex. I had some things

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Speaker 2: my ex's house. When I stopped by, Amber invited me

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Speaker 2: about her time with Dwayne and why they broke up,

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Speaker 2: as well as the purpose of the custody dispute is

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Speaker 2: alleged inappropriate behavior towards child. To this day, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if the allegations are true, but since Dwayne made

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Speaker 2: Amber friended me on social media and we kept in touch, However,

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Speaker 2: it soon became clear all we had in common was

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Speaker 2: Milli and Dwayne. She would call me after a switch

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Speaker 2: Dwayne because it was painful for me. However, she continued

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Speaker 2: to vent to me about Dwayne, as well as other

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Speaker 2: eventually stopped replying to her messages. It's been over two

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Speaker 2: years since Dwayne and I broke up. I feel extremely

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Speaker 2: guilty about this because cutting off Amber also means cutting

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Speaker 2: off Millie. I'm not no contact, but low contact. I

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Speaker 2: for going low contact with my ex's daughter and her mother.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, you shouldn't go no contact with

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Speaker 2: us because you can listen to full episodes with stories

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Speaker 2: just like this on Spotify, Apple Podcast or your favorite

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Speaker 2: is a little bit more to the story. But do

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Speaker 2: you have any final laws? What would op be the ale?

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Speaker 3: No, none at all.

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Speaker 2: That's hire kid, buy your relationship. You would not be

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Speaker 2: the ale. It's gonna be sad and MILLI probably is

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Speaker 2: gonna be sad about, you know, losing you.

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Speaker 3: I think once on your kid Billy gets old enough,

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Speaker 3: you can center graduation gift and be like, hey, you

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Speaker 3: were always awesome. I hate that we didn't work out.

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Speaker 2: I think that's appropriate, but you don't have to. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it sucks, but I think the best thing is just

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Speaker 2: to be like, Okay, I'm not gonna yeah see you

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Speaker 2: guys anymore. But there is a little bit left to

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Speaker 2: the story. Headit. To those saying I didn't do enough

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Speaker 2: should have reported him, et cetera, Dwayne and Amber were

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Speaker 2: report anything. As soon as he made creepy comments about

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Speaker 2: a kid, I gave that info to Amber's mother to

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Speaker 2: use in their court case. But it was the word

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Speaker 2: of his now ax with no proof. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: how I could have done anything more where Social Services

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Speaker 2: was already investigating and probably continues to thanks for kicking

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Speaker 2: me while I'm already feeling like an a hole though, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, what is Opie supposed to do? Yeah, she

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Speaker 2: did what she gave that information.

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Speaker 3: She did what she thought was the best.

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Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story. So we're

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Speaker 2: going to get into the next one.

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Speaker 3: My ex girlfriend was extremely controlling, so I gave her

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Speaker 3: They said, partners don't give ultimatums to each other, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, they said, partners don't give ultimatums to each other.

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Speaker 3: She gave it ultimatum with time, everything will get better.

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Speaker 3: I heard some screaming from Tyra. She was yelling that

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Speaker 3: She's been deleting comments where people are telling her she

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Speaker 3: Tyra has made some threats concerning my life. But my

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Speaker 3: As of right now, my friends have kept her on

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, like, at least you saw those red

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Speaker 2: If anyone's telling you, I like, if you ever have

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Speaker 3: And I also was contacted by Tyras X. You've seen

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Speaker 3: You guys were right.

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Speaker 3: She started off with cutting off guys than women, and

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly what she would have done to op.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm X started dating other people, but Tyra made

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Speaker 3: I've been given permission to anhearance.

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Speaker 2: I freaking knew it. I knew she was a liar.

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Speaker 2: No one, that's not that's not how that works. Well

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Speaker 3: I was shown some reports that were filed by her ex.

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Speaker 3: the OPI, Hey, I'm good. I have court in a

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Speaker 3: and that is it. Wow, she went psycho Hicho.

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Speaker 2: Crazy lady. When people tell you who they are, believe them.

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Speaker 3: That's doing that story man. But we got another one

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Speaker 2: My boyfriend's ex wife is way too involved in a relationship.

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Speaker 2: I female forty two, have been single for three years.

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Speaker 2: as I know that when you're in an actual narcissistic relationship,

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00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 2: you gain some narcissistic qualities, and I want to be

433
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,680
Speaker 2: able to nip that in the rear right away. I

434
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 2: found myself and I've become an almost completely different person,

435
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 2: though I am still an extensive trauma therapy. Since becoming single,

436
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 2: I have made a lot of new online friends and

437
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 2: am part of a community that shares partners. I lost

438
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,239
Speaker 2: seventy pounds and eight months got into the gym, and

439
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 2: I've turned my health around completely. I can handle my

440
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 2: life and my own mental health fairly well, letting people

441
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 2: know when I need a moment to process their words

442
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 2: or when I need a date myself. My trauma therapy

443
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 2: is even going to start me on another round of

444
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 2: EMDR to help get rid of whatever diagnosis he believes

445
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 2: I have going on, and my psych doctor is weaning

446
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 2: me off a lot of medication that she doesn't believe

447
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 2: I need to be on anymore. It's refreshing, However, being

448
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 2: a person who dates more than one person at a

449
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 2: time is a bit more difficult. In the dating field,

450
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 2: than it is for monogamous people. I recently got on

451
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Speaker 2: Facebook dating and by chance met a really great guy,

452
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 2: Ryan Fick name Mail forty one. He's burly and bearded, sweet, attentive,

453
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,479
Speaker 2: and compliments me all the time. We have a lot

454
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Speaker 2: of different interests, some that neither of us has a

455
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 2: real interest in becoming engrossed in, and while some may

456
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 2: think that makes us doomed, huh, I find it healthy.

457
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 2: We can do our own things separately, while we share

458
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 2: common interests in other areas and can make use of

459
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: our time together better. He's also been in the same

460
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: dating world I have been in, simply in a different way.

461
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 2: He's cultured and handsome and tells me I'm a bad

462
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 2: aye and cute every day. We have also agreed to

463
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 2: keep a relationship ours only for the foreseeable future. We

464
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: decided mutually after a month to become boyfriend and girlfriend,

465
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 2: and things were beautiful for roughly two weeks. Day day.

466
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Speaker 2: You only got two weeks of that.

467
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Speaker 3: I've heard stories of people getting married and then like,

468
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 3: right after they get married, they become a monster. At

469
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 3: least that happens with your boyfriend and girlfriend.

470
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, long suffering sigh. The biggest issue that I have

471
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 2: with this man are that he lives with is not

472
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 2: quite ex wife, Emily, female thirty eight, who has the

473
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: entire upstairs to herself while they share the main floor,

474
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: and they have two young ones male two and male

475
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 2: seven that run around, as well as a teen female

476
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: sixteen that is his daughter alone. He is not quite

477
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 2: ex wife, not quite, and they still live together legally

478
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: or emotionally, as it seems like they're not even separated.

479
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 4: Me.

480
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 2: While Ryan is mister mom, his ex partner is barely

481
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: able to take care of herself with her own mental

482
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 2: health issues, let alone her children for more than a

483
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 2: couple of hours of time. I feel that Ryan lets

484
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: her take advantage of him in more ways than one. However,

485
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: I didn't voice this because we are still so new

486
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 2: in the relationship. Hindsight being what it is, I can

487
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 2: recognize that perhaps she has a postpartum thing going on

488
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,959
Speaker 2: as well, considering they were breaking their marriage up when

489
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: the youngest was only a little over a year old,

490
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: and he had told me they'd been falling apart for years.

491
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: Emily and Ryan have been separated since November of twenty three,

492
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 2: living in the same home and trying to cohabitate for

493
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: the kids. While I am not particularly patient with every

494
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: child I come across, I get attached very quickly and

495
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: I'm very good with them. His children grew on me quickly.

496
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 2: Emily and I have even tried becoming friends. We went

497
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: out and had a few drinks, talking a lot, and

498
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 2: got to know each other quite well. I thought Emily

499
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: has been in a year long relationship with someone else.

500
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: In that day he had broken up with her. She

501
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 2: had voiced that she was having a very hard time

502
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: with me being with her ex, whereas Ryan had reassured

503
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: me that he doesn't have romantic feelings for his ex.

504
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 2: I've been told that things were mutually fine between Ryan

505
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 2: and Emily until I came into the picture. She kept

506
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: to herself for about two weeks after that, until three

507
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: days ago, when she admitted to Ryan that she still

508
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: has feelings for him. A month ago, he would surprise

509
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: me with the coffee that I like, randomly invite me

510
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: over or out on a date, or even invite himself over.

511
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: I always let him take the lead on where we

512
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: spend time together, because he did have children to juggle,

513
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: and I have my own business that is flexible enough

514
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 2: to find time whenever he had it. Since Emily's confession,

515
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: Ryan had been distant with me, much less messaging, much

516
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: less trying to spend time with me. I spent that

517
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 2: time jittery and worried to death, but scared to push

518
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Speaker 2: him into telling me what's going on. He finally told

519
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Speaker 2: me he was coming over night before last, and by

520
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 2: that evening he told me Emily was having a breakdown

521
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 2: and he was watching over her to make sure she

522
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: didn't do anything to herself that everyone would regret. I

523
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: advised him to call the rescue and let them handle it,

524
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 2: knowing the night between us was already a no go,

525
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 2: but he came back with I don't know if I

526
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: want to do the and it wouldn't change me not

527
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: coming to see you anyway, I said, obviously, but she

528
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: needs professional help if she's being serious.

529
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

530
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Speaker 2: After more conversation, I came to the conclusion that she's

531
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: being manipulative, and he felt the same way, but he

532
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: was unwilling to change the situation. So she's basically like

533
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: using this it's seemingly to stop him from going out

534
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: to see her. That gave me a lot of clarity.

535
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: Yesterday morning, I finally worked up the nerve to say something.

536
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: I asked him if we were in trouble, and his

537
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: answer took a long time to cut. Those little bubbles

538
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: in the chat that appear and disappear were making me nauseous.

539
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 2: His message read, I don't know, I'm confused. I always

540
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: told myself that I would not be the other woman,

541
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: and this relationship just got extremely messy. So I told

542
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: Ryan that I was backing away for a day or

543
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: so to give us both some time to process what

544
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 2: we want out of this. It was very rough for

545
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: me because this brought up old feelings of abandonment and betrayal,

546
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: as Emily had always been so openly happy to my face.

547
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: And Ryan went from, I have such cheap feelings for

548
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: you so vast too. I'm confused and don't know what

549
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: I want. Well, yeah, he's give a little little thing

550
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: I like to call love bombing. The fact that, like you,

551
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 2: you guys weren't quite together. You just got into your

552
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: official relationship.

553
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like about two weeks.

554
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you're finding out all of this stuff.

555
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: It's tricky.

556
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: And I bet though, that wife is making all the

557
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: moves she can to get back.

558
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: With a lot of continued conversation, never fighting. We didn't

559
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: argue about it at all. He thanks me for giving

560
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: us some time to maturely process this change. Told me

561
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: I'm a bad a, and we stopped communication. My friend

562
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 2: female thirty two had to make a bet with me

563
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 2: because I kept wanting to break my own self made

564
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: boundary and message Ryan. She told me that as long

565
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: as I don't message Ryan, she won't go buy a

566
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: nicotine vape. Y'all, that's huge, So of course I took

567
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: the bet. Good friend, and she's like, you know what,

568
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: I'll go clean. I'll quit if you stop, if you

569
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: don't text your ex.

570
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 3: That's a great friend on both sides.

571
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. After twenty four hours of going through a roller

572
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: coaster of emotions from anxiety to ugly crying, I finally

573
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: got my head on straight and decided to break it

574
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 2: off with him. Let's go nice. Yeah, you don't deserve

575
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: all that wishy washiness. I let him know I would

576
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: be here for him as a friend, and since he

577
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 2: has his own mental health concerns, I assured him that

578
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 2: I would check in to be sure he was okay.

579
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: That's nice, but you don't have to ensign your responsibility.

580
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: It's like, it's nice, but you have to take care

581
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: of yourself first.

582
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 3: If you guys were together for like three years, yeah,

583
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 3: but like you just became, you know, not even three weeks.

584
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: I also stated, as a friend, please continue to look

585
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: out for your boundaries, look out for manipulation and control.

586
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: We had openly communicated about all of these things throughout

587
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: our small relationship, so he did feel comfortable telling him that,

588
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: to which he wholeheartedly agreed he would do and told

589
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: me he would love to remain friends. You don't have

590
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: to do that. You don't have to do that, but

591
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: you know what you do have to do listen to

592
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593
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Speaker 2: story time and there is a little bit left to

595
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Speaker 2: the story.

596
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 3: But any final thoughts, No, it's just tricky all the

597
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 3: way around. I hope he you know what you need

598
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: to do and just have to stop go for it. Yeah.

599
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: I don't think you have to necessarily, you know, be friends. No, obviously,

600
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: I feel like that's always what is said. Also works,

601
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: you brought a couple together. Yeah, you could be happy.

602
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: You can walk away with that hopefully they're not together,

603
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: though she seems the wife seems pretty many.

604
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: If you live too, they're a happy family together.

605
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: But I don't know. We'll see if those results are good.

606
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: But there's a little bit more. It hurts so much

607
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: to know that within my grasp I had some hope

608
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: and now it's been yanked out from under me. But

609
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: I feel like an a whole. Should I have fought harder?

610
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: My two closest friends told me I did the right thing,

611
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 2: authors congratulate me for being so strong, though I feel

612
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: so weak. Some people say I should have fought for

613
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: him because he was now in a relationship with me,

614
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: and I should have let him know how much he

615
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: meant to me. I've always been the type of woman

616
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: who seals off the emotions after the breakup, living with

617
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: the mindset of if you don't want me, then you

618
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: don't deserve me. I feel as if this was the

619
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: right road to go down, But still I have to ask,

620
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: am I the a hole for breaking up with my

621
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: boyfriend because of his not quite ex wife. There's no

622
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: way right a hole? The hole like going into the

623
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: thing of like, oh, you should stay together, like you

624
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 2: should let them know that you're you know you love them,

625
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Again, you've been with this man officially

626
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 2: two weeks, two three weeks, two three weeks. This is

627
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: not like if this for two years down the line,

628
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: it would make sense if you hit a bump in

629
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: the road and he was like I don't know if

630
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: this relationship will work yeah, and you were like no, no, no,

631
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: like we can work through this. That would make sense

632
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: to fight for it. But right now it's like he

633
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 2: has a lot of issues going on.

634
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't.

635
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: You don't want to get mixed up, and right now.

636
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: You don't deserve to be mixed up either.

637
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story.

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00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: are constantly broke and keep on whining about it for

650
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: more than ten years. They've been coming crawling to family

651
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: with sob stories and expecting their bills to be paid.

652
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: By the way. This comes from foursts seven to five

653
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: Late Leah, and if you want to share your stories,

654
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: you can go to our slash Okay storytime. Suppurtate their

655
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: family's debts are already in the six figures. My sister

656
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: in law is a physiotherapist and her husband is someone who,

657
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: because of his skin color and age, thinks he doesn't

658
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: have to apply for a job because he wouldn't get

659
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: one anyway. When as to why she or her husband

660
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't work, my sister in law always replies that she

661
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: has back pain and her husband has bad knees, is

662
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: over fifty and black, and there are no jobs for them,

663
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: which is absolutely not true as I was personally working

664
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: in a job agency at the time and suggested lots

665
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: of suitable jobs to him, which he didn't apply for

666
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: because the hourly wage of twenty euros an hour was

667
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: supposedly too low. Since this resulted in a full time

668
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: monthly salar of thirty two hundred euros before tax. There

669
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: was no argument for getting up from the couch from well,

670
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: it's summer, my sister in law's birthday is coming up.

671
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: We have a family barbecue together. My sister in law

672
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: calls all of us together and makes a speech. She

673
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: would like to buy a car and wants eight thousand

674
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: euros for it and then another three thousand for a

675
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: luxury electric massage Matt. The money would also be paid back.

676
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: This time, we ask her why she needs a car

677
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: and how she would pay for the maintenance taxes, gas

678
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: and repair costs for the car My entired old sister

679
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: in law, My husband is American and he doesn't want

680
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: to travel by public transportation and is used to driving.

681
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: And my husband needs the car to visit his friends,

682
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: as traveling by public transport was unbearable for him and

683
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: he doesn't feel comfortable. In response to the further question

684
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: of how they were going to finance the car outside

685
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: of the purchase costs without money and jobs, my sister

686
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: in law got snippy and started insulting us all We

687
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: were all mean to her and just wanted to put

688
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: her down with our questions and show her that she

689
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: was less than us and that she had offered to

690
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: pay the money back. It ends with my entitled sister

691
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: in law bursting into tears and running into the house.

692
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: Since I had to go into the house myself, I

693
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: don't hear my sister in law crying as I expected,

694
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: but talking on the phone to her husband, who wasn't

695
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: at the barbecue. I could hear my sister in law

696
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: complaining to him that all of us are tormenting her

697
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: or patronizing her and talking down to her. My sister

698
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: in law comes back into the garden with a smug smile,

699
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: puts her phone on speaker and holds it out to us.

700
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: My brother in law yells, just watch it. I'm going

701
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: to f you all up, you ales. You talk crap

702
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: about me behind my back and make my wife cry.

703
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: I hate you all. You all suck, and I lift

704
00:31:52,920 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: you up. So how I feel about you, guys. Sophia

705
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: is spiteful. Oh my god. My sister in law is

706
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: there the whole time with a satisfied grin. A while later,

707
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: it's my sister in law's birthday and we the doormats

708
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: we were back then, want to fulfill my sister in

709
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: law's hearts desire a car by giving her a car

710
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: sharing deal of one hundred euros. Of course, no good

711
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: deed goes unpunished. We give her the hundred euro deposit,

712
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 2: which she can use. Then it's in her name and

713
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: only she is insured. We explain everything to her. She

714
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: understands and agrees to abide by the contract. She also

715
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: promises that she will pay the costs incurred her from

716
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: her account once the hundred euros have been debted debited.

717
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: Everything's fine, he keeps it. She's like, I'll pay it back.

718
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, God, why don't you believe me? I mean, I

719
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: can only say it so many times.

720
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: I'll pay you back. I know I can do it.

721
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: Oh what about all the other money that you owe

722
00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: us and never paid back.

723
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: That's not what we're talking. No, we're not. That's the past. Okay,

724
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta stay in the past. Yeah, I

725
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: live in the now. Hello. Of course, my sister in

726
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: law lied and didn't change the account details, and of

727
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: course let her deadbeat husband drive. When I noticed this

728
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: gap in our account, I immediately canceled access to our

729
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: account and confronted my sister in law. She ignores me, Uh,

730
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: didn't respond to my calls, texts, or emails, but complains

731
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: to my husband her brother that is mean and nasty

732
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: wife who doesn't begrudge them, the poor poor people in

733
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: the car. I haven't been able to sleep for three

734
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: nights because your wife dear brother want some money back.

735
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: That's so outrageous.

736
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got the cadence down. You've got feeling that

737
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: is so far away from Scottish guests. Yeah, I can

738
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: do a Scottish accident.

739
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: The chats say Scottish to make you go No, no, no, no, no,

740
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: that's not this is here. Pos husband replies to my

741
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: email a few weeks later and calls me a B

742
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: word and a witch that he's going to beat me

743
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: up so that I finally shut up and stop nagging

744
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: him and his wife about money. I apparently also need

745
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: therapeutic help because I've gone crazy. He keeps threatening me

746
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: that I'll soon get a few punches if I don't

747
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: finally shut up. Whoa, It goes so far that this

748
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: aggressor a hole turns up outside her house and tries

749
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 2: to intercept and intimidate me so that I stay quiet. Dang,

750
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: my god, that's the whoop? What's that? That's the sound

751
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: of the police. That's the sound of the police. Did

752
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 2: I mention that this pos has already had several charges

753
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: and court cases for violent confrontations. I report him to

754
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: the police. Yeah, only to have the rest of the

755
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: family against me, berating me as to why I would

756
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: mess with him. Don't poke the bear. I told him

757
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: that I'm to blame for the whole mess, and that

758
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: me and my husband have enough money and should let

759
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: the poor relative have it. Oh my, oh, I'm told

760
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: that yeah, No, it's no, you're not. They can give

761
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: the money. They can get the money if they want. Hey,

762
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: that's a great idea. Why don't you do it. My

763
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: mother in law even goes so far to say that

764
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: she would go begging from the family so that we

765
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: greedy people would get our money back, so that we

766
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: would finally stop annoying everyone. Of course, my sister in

767
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: law and brother in law don't pay anything back, nor

768
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: did they apologize nothing. They are smear campaigning us full throttle.

769
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: My husband's family rolls their eyes at me when I

770
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: bring up the subject and keeps on telling me that

771
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: it's my own fault and that I overreacted with my complaint.

772
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 2: I even told I was even told that my reaction

773
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: was extremely over the top and that I am the

774
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: a hole rebuke from the family in law from left right,

775
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: above and below. It ends with my sister in law

776
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: and brother in law turning up at my father in

777
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: law's birthday party a couple of months later and making

778
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: a scene saying that they are mistreated and bullied in

779
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: the family and that we would all soon see where

780
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: that would lead to. That's a threat. Yeah, what a

781
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: good threat there, What a nice little threat. I wrap

782
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: that up in a bow. True again the famous threats

783
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: for my pus brother in law. My brother in law

784
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: attacks all the men in the family at this event

785
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: and threatens to hit them and tries to provoke my

786
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: husband in particular to get into a fight with him.

787
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: My POS brother in law is no success with this.

788
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 2: My pos brother in law is a sucker that he

789
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: only pushes my other brother in law's wife to the floor.

790
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: Whoa only because he dare to approach men such a loser.

791
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 2: Who You're tackled into the center of the earth. Oh,

792
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: my god, push my wife, I tackle you to the

793
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 2: core of the planet. We're about to journey. We're about

794
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: to take a journey to the center of the Earth

795
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: starring Josh Hutcherson, Such a loser. Meanwhile, my sister in

796
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: law shouts at me that I can be held personally

797
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: responsible for the fact that the family is now destroyed

798
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: and everything is in shambles. She mockingly asks me if

799
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm proud of my destructive luck, what that's How is

800
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: this your fault? What? How is just your fault? So

801
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: your sister in law said, I want you to buy

802
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: me a car, and you said that's crazy. No, And

803
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: everyone's like, you've rutted the family. That's crazy, writ the family.

804
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: My brother in law storms up to me shortly afterwards

805
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: and shouts that he would do anything to perfect protect

806
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: his family and will smash my face in.

807
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 4: Dang, that's crazy. Do you not see the contrast on

808
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: the two those two statements. You're talking to a member

809
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 4: of your family. You're talking to an in law whoa.

810
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: I call the police good when the police siren is

811
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: her brother in law and sister in law lee the scene.

812
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 2: I just trted like running like a cartoon. Yeah, run

813
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: off into a dust cloud. Meanwhile, after three long years,

814
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: we got the money back from my mother in law,

815
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: as she had condescendingly offered to go begging so that

816
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: we would stop nagging about the money. She was grumbling, kicking,

817
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: and screaming. But we now have this stolen money back

818
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: from her. She saved her grown up, unreliable daughters. But

819
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: my thieving sister in law recently came scratching at her

820
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: door like a little cat. I'm just imagining you're being like,

821
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: let me get a car, Let me have a car,

822
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: and would you like an automobile? One audible bu to

823
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: announce that she had severe depression because of the way

824
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: we treated Oh ooh, I wonder could it rather be

825
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: that she has a crappy, lazy husband who is on

826
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 2: her back and picks fights with everyone he meets. Apparently

827
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: there was so much negativity coming from me personally that

828
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: she needed to go to a special clinic to get

829
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 2: treatment for her depression. I told her to get lost

830
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 2: and that she should tell her stob stories to someone else.

831
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: Stand obvious the only one who doesn't freaking care. Yeah,

832
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 4: OPI low key like sometimes might be an heil.

833
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean, it seems like the

834
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: sister in law is telling everyone lies about Op, and

835
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 2: it'll be like I'm I gonna help you. You the worst.

836
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: My husband also told her that he no longer had

837
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 2: time for her. I can understand that the family in

838
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: law felt it was ridiculous and not worth mentioning that

839
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: we have been robbed of two thousand euros. Previously, my

840
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 2: sister in law had stole a wop in twenty thousand

841
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: euros from her own daughter. Ooh ooh. It was her

842
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: daughter's college fund. When the daughter asked her mother where

843
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: the money was, she shrugged her shoulders and said I

844
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: had bills to pay. I am now full of no

845
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: contact with the in laws. My husband is veels very

846
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: low contact. I'm finally free of these pets. Unfortunately, I

847
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: have to say that my husband's family, with the exception

848
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: of him, a rubbish. They cover up intra family threat thefts,

849
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: tolerate verbal, physical and emotional violence, and practice perpetrate her

850
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: victim reversal. I will never sit down at the same

851
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: table with them ever again. And there is an update.

852
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: So maybe ope sat at the same table. Why not more?

853
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: I hope So I would like to see that I'm

854
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: frecking hope. So, yeah, you don't have to worry about

855
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: these piece of crap people. They freaking suck. They're taking

856
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: advantage of you, they're threatening you, and your family's all

857
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: taking their side, so just cut them off.

858
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, just know that you are not the crazy one

859
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 4: in situation. Yeah, you are perfectly. You are free to

860
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 4: be normal.

861
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 2: You're the straight man in this odd ball cast of characters.

862
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: My mother in law recently passed away. My POS sister

863
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Speaker 2: in law and my PS brother in law were at

864
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Speaker 2: the funeral, although my POS brother in law made it

865
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Speaker 2: clear to my mother in law that he didn't like

866
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Speaker 2: her and despised her.

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Speaker 4: Even though we can't even take a break at the

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Speaker 4: funeral on come on, guys, no, no, but.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, the mother in law is the one

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Speaker 2: who was like hardcore backing his sister in law and

871
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: her husband, and now the brother in law is like, yeah,

872
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: but I freaking hated her the whole time. It's like

873
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 2: you just shut up, just shut your mouth. Although day

874
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: one day, although all the mourners except my POS sister

875
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: in law previously asked to not to come because he

876
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: didn't respect the deceased, he strutted into the cemetery chapel

877
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 2: with his head hell high and sat down in the

878
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: front row. The front row was only for blood blood relatives.

879
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: My POS sister in law even had the cheek to

880
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: shout at the mourners and relatives who didn't want to

881
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: see her pus husband that she was the first bard

882
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: of the deceased and therefore had privileges and could of

883
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: course bring her husband with her. She had the sole

884
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 2: right to decide how the funeral service should be conducted.

885
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: I think deep down my POS brother in law considers

886
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: himself to be the German version of a Pimpnade's same

887
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: slip slickback. His funeral outfit consisted of a dark blue

888
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: polyester pinstriped suit, not the elegant version, but the mobster version, sunglasses,

889
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: medium blue stetson hat made of fake fur, including a

890
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: walking stick with a fake silver nove cheap and inappropriate

891
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: pimp style to the nines for a funeral. He probably

892
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: needed it to stand out because he had been muzzled

893
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: by the mourners for the funeral. The funeral itself, health

894
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: was quiet, except that POS brother in law didn't even

895
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: go to the grave and just sat there glaring at

896
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: the mourners, demonstratively or demonstratively, turning away from the people

897
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: who approached him and refused to shake their outstretched hands.

898
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: Why did he even come? When the morning party broke up,

899
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: a gathering was planned in the closest family circle without

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Speaker 2: my POS brother in law and POS sister in law. Unfortunately,

901
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: my deceased mother in law has an older sister who

902
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: was of course privy to the plans that only the

903
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: immediate family circle was invited, who invited all the guests present,

904
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Speaker 2: whether family or not, in a completely unplanned and unarranged manner.

905
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 2: Of course, my POS sister in law and her POS

906
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: husband felt invited free meals. Yeah, as these are people

907
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: who lack all decency, sensitivity and manners. My sister in law,

908
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 2: including her youngest daughter, found it appropriate on the spot

909
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: to beerate my husband her brother for not wanting her

910
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: husband at her mother's funeral. Mother and daughter were yelling

911
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: like banshee's in the middle of the street for all

912
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: the neighbors to hear, demanding. It was twenty minutes after

913
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: the funeral the grave haven't the grave hasn't even been

914
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: shoveled yet, that my husband apologized for the dissementation of

915
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: my PUS brother in law immediately and on the spot.

916
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: My POS wanna be pimp brother in law watched this

917
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: with relish and enjoyed the spectacle that his wife and

918
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: daughter were putting on his name. Finally he got the

919
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: narcissistic supply he had been missing for so long. Yelling

920
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: at my husband, mother and daughter continues to move towards

921
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: the location, and also yelled at my husband that he

922
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: was crazy to allow his wife me to write a

923
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: fake police report against her dear innocent husband and family man.

924
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: My POS sister in law's daughter, eighteen years old, treated

925
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 2: her uncle, my husband, who had just buried his mother

926
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: like a piece of crap, insulted him, flipped him the bird,

927
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: and called him crazy and out of his mind. Us

928
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: brother in law watched his daughter with satisfaction and pleasure.

929
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: This devil had achieved his goal. His poison flows now

930
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: in the veins of his wife and daughter. The funeral

931
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: was a wonderful day for him. Two psychologists have identified

932
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: my POS brother in law as not only a malignant narcissist,

933
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Speaker 2: but a sociopath. But how would you know that? Exactly?

934
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: How we both said that? Did you know that?

935
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: I don't think that's true. I don't know why he'd

936
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: tell you that, or why you'd know that.

937
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: But you know what I know, I listen to full

938
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: episodes and stories like this. Go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts,

939
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: or your favorite podcast happen just search up. Okay, story time,

940
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 2: and there is a little bit more to this story.

941
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: Call ninety three Baby says sounds more like a little xenophobic.

942
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: But I mean with brother in law like that, who

943
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 2: could blame Ope?

944
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, to be clear that brother in law doesn't sound

945
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 4: like he's the worst, great guy.

946
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: He's the worst, but it does. It was like a

947
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: little bit of just like a twinge of like just

948
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: like a little bit meaning into it, just like a

949
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: twinge of like.

950
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 4: The perspective is like and I should have known, and

951
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 4: it's like that's what it had done.

952
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: That's what it feels like. It's like, obviously this guy sucks. Yeah,

953
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: that's very evident, but it just which is the attitude

954
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: of like you just see that one. Oh, I was like, okay, okay,

955
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: but there is a little bit more to this story. Additionally,

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00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: I hold my pos sister in law partly responsible for

957
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: the sudden death of my mother in law. Her mother,

958
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: my mother in law, had lung cancer and therefore had

959
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: difficulty breathing three days before her death. She had phoned

960
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: her daughter, my pos sister in law, and begged her

961
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: to finally apologize to me and my husband for the

962
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: stolen money so that peace could finally return to the family.

963
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: My pos sister in law attacked my mother in law

964
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: and she passed away two days later. I would want

965
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: charges press the unaliving of your mother in law, even if.

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Speaker 4: It might have been coincidence, but we'll let the courts

967
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 4: decide on how much of a coincidence that was.

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00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, well, well, thank god. That's the end of

969
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: that story. Yeah, that's it, man, That's that's the end

970
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: of that one.

971
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 4: What what a doozy, absolute doozy. Her crazy in laws

972
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: won't let her wear a white wedding dress at her

973
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Speaker 4: own wedding.

974
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Speaker 2: What that's like the that's like the time when you're

975
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 2: allowed to wear the white dress. No, no, no, you didn't.

976
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Speaker 4: You just hear her in laws, dude, it's not allowed.

977
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: Pow pow.

978
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 4: I work at a hotel near a popular wedding venue

979
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 4: that can have three weddings in one day at the

980
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Speaker 4: same time, as there are multiple places to hold one

981
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Speaker 4: hundred to two hundred people.

982
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: On the property.

983
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Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from user a Little Bumbee

984
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: and you can submit your stories on the oh slash

985
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Speaker 4: Okay storytime subredd it so well. During wedding season, I

986
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: came across someone in a wedding crying in our back stairway.

987
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 4: I asked if there was anything I could do to

988
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 4: help her. She asked if I had time to hear

989
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 4: her story, because she needed someone to talk to who

990
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: wasn't at the wedding. As she said, the sister of

991
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: the groom won't let her wear the white dress she

992
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: wanted to. She went on about how she had paid

993
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 4: for the venue and the groom's choice of catering instead

994
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 4: of what the bride wanted. She also paid for all

995
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 4: the hotel rooms, with people paying her back for it,

996
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 4: but the groom and groom's family hasn't paid her yet,

997
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 4: and she got them all sweets, which were three hundred

998
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 4: a night during our busy season, and they were there

999
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 4: for five days and four nights. She also paid for

1000
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 4: most of the decor and the wedding party's outfits. The

1001
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: groom's entire family is against her wearing the white dress

1002
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: she wanted to wear. At this moment, I was thinking

1003
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 4: about how even if someone paid for my entire wedding.

1004
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: I wouldn't allow them to wear white on my wedding day.

1005
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: And she said exactly that. She was like, I know

1006
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 4: what you're thinking. It doesn't matter how much I've paid

1007
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: for I shouldn't wear white to someone else's wedding. But

1008
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: then she hit me with I'm the effing bride. She really,

1009
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 4: she really waited until it was like packed a pack,

1010
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 4: pack a punch, punched a pack.

1011
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: I'm the bride. Yeah, she had a flipped she had

1012
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: it on her phone ready to play, and then she

1013
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: did a flip off the stairs. I was floored.

1014
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 4: Who doesn't let the bride wear white to their own wedding?

1015
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: So she continued on with the story while I was

1016
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 4: in shock. The groom's sister was there for every dress appointment,

1017
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 4: along with the groom's mom, who's now just going to

1018
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 4: be sister in law and mother in law. Well, both

1019
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 4: mother and sister in law kept making comments that sister

1020
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 4: in law would look better in the dresses than the bridewould.

1021
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 4: At the last appointment she had for trying dresses, she

1022
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: was finally able to bring her mom and the groom,

1023
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 4: hoping that would stop sister in law and mother in

1024
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 4: law for making those comments.

1025
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 2: Big surprise, it didn't.

1026
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 4: They just stopped saying them out loud and instead sent

1027
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: messages in the family group chat that they didn't realize

1028
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 4: the groom was in. The groom didn't see the messages

1029
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: as he shut off the phone to focus on the bride.

1030
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 4: They discovered the messages later that night. A couple days

1031
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: after that last appointment, she was added to the family

1032
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 4: group chat, bombarded with colorful dress choices, and told she

1033
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 4: had to wear a colorful, a colorful dress because sister

1034
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 4: in law found a dress she wanted to wear and

1035
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 4: it was white, so the bride wouldn't wear white.

1036
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 2: That's insane, that's insane. All the people who were like, oh,

1037
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: like in the chat were saying, oh, they maybe like

1038
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: she's not a you know, a vergeon, and so that's

1039
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: why they won't let her wear white. But no, this

1040
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: is I mean, that's already crazy, but like whole new

1041
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: level of crazy to be like, yeah, she wants to

1042
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: wear white, so you can't wear white on your wedding

1043
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: death the most unhinged thing I've ever heard in a

1044
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: wedding story. Demanding that this sister in law gets to

1045
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: wear a white dress out instead of the bride say,

1046
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: why don't you have a freaking wedding? Oh wait, no

1047
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: one will marry you because you're terrible. You stink.

1048
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: Another bit of backstory she told me was that sister

1049
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 4: and mother in law both have bipolar and are kind

1050
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 4: of babied and spoiled by the family because of that.

1051
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 4: So no one else in the family besides the groom

1052
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 4: stood up for her wearing white to the wedding, and

1053
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 4: they all messaged her privately to just wear a colorful

1054
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 4: dress and let sister in law wear the white dress.

1055
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Speaker 2: At least the scene. At least the groom stoodup, because

1056
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: sometimes we're in the situation the person who does and

1057
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: the groom is like, well, that's what they want. But

1058
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: at least he's like, no, that's crazy.

1059
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 4: She bought a white wedding dress, and when sister in

1060
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 4: law found out, she came to their apartment to find.

1061
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: The dress and destroy it. They have ring camera.

1062
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 4: Footage of sister in law screaming and being on their

1063
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 4: door demanding the dress because the bride wouldn't wear a

1064
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 4: white dress.

1065
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: She was wearing the white dress. This is just unhinged.

1066
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 4: Well, sister in law and mother in law never got

1067
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 4: to the dress, but they tried canceling the bride's alterations,

1068
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 4: but the bride had seen a couple tiktoks on keeping

1069
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 4: on keeping meddling family away from things, so she set

1070
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: up passwords for all the stuff she had for the

1071
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 4: wedding so they wouldn't change anything. Well, sister in law

1072
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: still bought the white dress and has been showing everyone

1073
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: pictures of it, going on about how she'll be so

1074
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 4: beautiful in it at the wedding. Then, and the bride

1075
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Speaker 4: doesn't know how they got pictures of it. They posted

1076
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 4: sister in law's dress and the bride's dress on Facebook

1077
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: and asked.

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00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: Everyone to vote on which one was better. Oh my god,

1079
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: these people are like they can't stop a lope. Yeah,

1080
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: have your own little wedding away far far away from

1081
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: these people. Yes, insane people. I'm sorry, Like, your your

1082
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: husband might be setting up for you, but like he

1083
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: needs to invite them at this point. Yes, this is

1084
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 2: he needs to be behavior, He needs to be really upset.

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00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 4: Okay, So they deleted the which one is better post

1086
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 4: when multiple people voted for the bride's dress in sister

1087
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 4: in laws Yeah, the bride's whole family is behind her

1088
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 4: in this fight, but she has a small family compared

1089
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 4: to the groom side, and they have been the louder

1090
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 4: side in this fight. Then the next part was given

1091
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 4: to them by the groom's brother. The mother in law

1092
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 4: and sister in law found out what the groom's tuxs

1093
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 4: will look like and bought sister in law's boyfriend the

1094
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 4: exact same tux. He though custom ordered fabric and color

1095
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: and cuff links that the bride bought. The bride got

1096
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 4: custom and grave twenty four car gold cuff links of

1097
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 4: the groom's favorite band. Brother in law was a part

1098
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 4: of a new family group chat that excludes the bride

1099
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 4: and groom and was sending all the updates from that

1100
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 4: chat to the couple. Well, the bride was able to

1101
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 4: get to sister in law's white dress and ruined it

1102
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 4: with a black fabric paint marker just before they left

1103
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: to come here.

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00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is good. Okay, I flipped them

1105
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: in my mind. Whoa nice.

1106
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 4: Sister in law found it a couple hours ago and

1107
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 4: has been ranting that it was obviously the bride and

1108
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 4: how the bride is ruining.

1109
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: Her special day. It's not your special you have a

1110
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: stupid old one.

1111
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 4: Getting upset, sister in law had to get a new

1112
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 4: dress from a local thrift store that had no wedding

1113
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 4: dress code appropriate dresses in white. Brother in law sent

1114
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 4: them a screenshot from the chat and made the bride

1115
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 4: start crying and started the whole fight that led her

1116
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 4: to crying in our backstairs.

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00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: So now we know how. So is this a how

1118
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: it got that day of the wedding? This is the

1119
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 2: wedding is happening now? Oh and so she's stairs.

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00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: She's crying in the.

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00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: Stairs on her wedding day. Yep, I wouldn't. I'm about to.

1122
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm about to show.

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00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 4: So sister in law and mother in law have been

1124
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 4: planning for sister in law's boyfriend's family to come up

1125
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 4: the day of the wedding, and before the bride and

1126
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 4: groom get married, sister in law and her boyfriend will

1127
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 4: have a promise ceremony where, in front of their family

1128
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 4: and friends, they will promise to love each other forever

1129
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 4: and get married one day in the future. Who sister

1130
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 4: in law, sister in law.

1131
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 2: And are freaking boyfriend? But I have a promise ceremony?

1132
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't this one this poor woman's wedding that.

1133
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 4: Does that does seem to be exactly what's going to happen. Technically,

1134
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 4: it's not at the wedding, it's the day before with

1135
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 4: these and other screenshots. The groom calls both their families

1136
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 4: into they're sweet and starts in on his mother and

1137
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 4: sister about how this is supposed to be his and

1138
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 4: his wife's day and not his sisters.

1139
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: His mother and sister started crying about how.

1140
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 4: His sister isn't ready for marriage, but because they're so poor,

1141
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 4: when she is ready, she won't be able to have

1142
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 4: the amazing weddy that he is, and she just wants

1143
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: to borrow their wedding so she can have an amazing

1144
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 4: one too, And none of this would be happening if

1145
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: he wasn't marrying such a stuck up buttle. Well, that's

1146
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 4: just about one of the most entitled things I've ever

1147
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 4: read in my life. This set the bride off, and

1148
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 4: she ran out crying while her family put them in

1149
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 4: their place, and now she's talking to me about it

1150
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 4: while she waits for everyone to calm down. A few

1151
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 4: other things she mentioned that I feel with how I'm

1152
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 4: not good at relaying back info would have made the

1153
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 4: story non cohesive. The groom is in grad school and

1154
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 4: took out loans to go, so he really has no money.

1155
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 4: That's why the bride paid for everything. Bride has a

1156
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 4: really well paying job and her family has a lot

1157
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 4: of savings even though they are in the same economic

1158
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 4: classes the groom's family, so they helped pay for the wedding.

1159
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 4: She chose the groom's choice for catering because it's the

1160
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,959
Speaker 4: only thing about the wedding he really really cared about.

1161
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: He told her multiple times he'd rather just go to

1162
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 4: the courthouse, sign the paper and just got go get

1163
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 4: dinner at their place. Yeah, because at the place that's catering.

1164
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 4: After he knows what his family's like to deal with.

1165
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: I know that this is not gonna be fun.

1166
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 4: No. The bride's mom works a lot and couldn't make

1167
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 4: it to any dress appointments because the last one and

1168
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 4: the groom, or besides the last one and the groom

1169
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 4: couldn't because of school. She's always had problems with his

1170
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: sister in law and mother in law, but thought they

1171
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 4: could put them aside for the wedding.

1172
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: Oh, what a crazy thought.

1173
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 4: She's in the stairs by herself, because she always does

1174
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 4: better calming down when she's by herself. And by the way,

1175
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 4: you know what you can always do better by yourself

1176
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 4: is listen to full episodes with stories like these. All

1177
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 4: you have to do is go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts

1178
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 4: wherever you get your podcasts, and search Okay Storytime, and

1179
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 4: there you will find all the episodes that your heart

1180
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 4: could ever desire, and you can listen to them all alone,

1181
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 4: or you can tell your friends, tell your family and

1182
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 4: they can listen to them as well.

1183
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: Would you have done anything differently? I mean like if

1184
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: I were I would have been like I would have

1185
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: like hard cut off. I would have cut off all.

1186
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: You're not coming, You're not coming to the wedding. This

1187
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: is my wedding. How dare you ask to borrow my

1188
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: wedding and try to wear white on my wedding? And

1189
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: I never want to.

1190
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: See you again, any human being who is in support

1191
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 4: of me not wearing a white dress.

1192
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: You're gone, You're done, Bye, goodbye.

1193
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 4: I was told by the front desk staff that they

1194
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: refunded the bride for mother and sister in law's rooms,

1195
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 4: then went to them for payment of the rooms. They

1196
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 4: left with father in law the next day and skip

1197
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 4: the wedding.

1198
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all we like to hear.

1199
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 4: Fun note, the bride invited me to the wedding, but

1200
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 4: I had to work that day, so I couldn't go. Well,

1201
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 4: we are friends on Facebook, so I get to see

1202
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 4: her mother in law and sister in law rants on

1203
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 4: Facebook about how now that sister in law is getting married,

1204
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 4: she's not going to be able to have the wedding

1205
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: she wants let me know in the comments if this

1206
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 4: was too confusing, I'll try to get a hold of

1207
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 4: the pride, but I don't think she'll answer me, as

1208
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 4: we haven't talked since her invite to the wedding, and

1209
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 4: that is the end.

1210
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: I appreciate the dedication. Ope, he's like, I will find out.

1211
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: I will find you did a good job. Ope. I

1212
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: feel like that was pretty Yeah, it was pretty clear.

1213
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't be afraid to not let problematic people go

1214
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 4: to your wedding, even if they're directly related to you.

1215
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: I think that's the don't take away go to the

1216
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 2: wedding if you don't want them at the wedding. Hey,

1217
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: it's johny og Host here. We're going to get back

1218
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: to the stories. But here's a quick three minute break

1219
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: of ass from our sponsors. My mother is super controlling.

1220
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: She's making my wedding about her. He's me the voice

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00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: shrimp far away. I have a wedding, so I've never

1222
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: made a post and this far away from me in

1223
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: case my family sees it, so it's on a throwaway count.

1224
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm just stressed and need a void to scream into us.

1225
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: So if you decide to read this, please bear with me.

1226
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: This is going to be a scrambled mess of events

1227
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: that will hopefully come off cohesively. By the way, this

1228
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 2: comes from being in the void. And if you want

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00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: to share your stories, go to our slash Okay story

1230
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: time supparate it. So, I, twenty eight female, have had

1231
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: an ongoing issue with my mother fifty six since becoming independent.

1232
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: Before anyone gets concerned, she's not abusive or anything, nor

1233
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: is she a helicopter parent by all accounts. I know,

1234
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: I'm lucky that, even with a few major hiccups in

1235
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: our childhood, me and my brothers twenty and thirty are

1236
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: lucky our parents love and support us like they do,

1237
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 2: which makes it all the harder. And some moments when

1238
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: my mom pushes or oversteps some background. Her and my

1239
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: dad sixty worked for years and well paying jobs, and

1240
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: my dad was smart with his money, so it them

1241
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 2: in a comfortable, middle class lifestyle. Because of her rough childhood,

1242
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: she tries extra hard to help whenever we're struggling financially

1243
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: because of this. I know what this is about to

1244
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: sound like, but I wanted this to be accurate. Problems

1245
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: come when there's big projects or changes. The best example

1246
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: of this in its entirety was my wedding. I had

1247
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: no idea what all goes into one until questions were

1248
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: brought up that I never thought or cared about, but

1249
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: were necessary for paperwork reasons. That of advice, unless you're

1250
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: having a backyard wedding or have it all planned down

1251
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: to the exact color and pattern of the napkins that

1252
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 2: are going to be thrown away at the end of

1253
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: the night, just hire a wedding planner. Both my parents

1254
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: insisted on funding the entire thing, and if there was

1255
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: something I saw that I wanted, there were no arguments.

1256
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: I was too swept up in making arrangements that I

1257
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: forgot that there was a price tag, and when I

1258
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: tried backtracking, Mom assured me that they had it covered.

1259
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 2: I think maybe they don't have it covered. It sounds

1260
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: like maybe we're not having it covered. Throughout all of

1261
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,439
Speaker 2: the wedding, there would come said details that I would

1262
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: ask my mom to go ahead and choose for me,

1263
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: such as specific djays, florist, stylists, photographers, et cetera. I

1264
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: didn't have anything like that in mind, and I figured

1265
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: that way she and my father could have better control

1266
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: of the budget. But anytime I asked anyone to give

1267
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: even an opinion, my mother insisted it was my wedding

1268
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: and only I could make those calls. Dad just said

1269
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: he was only writing checks and to just come to

1270
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: him when it came time to pay. And my husband

1271
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: to be was just as indifferent on the stuff as

1272
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 2: I was. So I did, but I could to pick

1273
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 2: these things out, but I still had to work full

1274
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: time and my job is extremely demanding, so a lot

1275
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: of things were chosen by the fact that they were

1276
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: the only people with openings and got booked last minute.

1277
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really sounds like we shouldn't have had these

1278
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 4: people on point for that.

1279
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. It seems like like if you're going to be

1280
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: on point and someone says, hey, can I ask your advice,

1281
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: Give your advice. Yeah, that's why they're asking. Don't be like,

1282
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: oh no, you'll figure it out. Like that's so annoying. Yeah,

1283
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: it feels like you got this one in a way.

1284
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: But I told you I would like you to have this. Yeah,

1285
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 2: but I bet you've got it. I hate you. Just

1286
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: tell me where the money goes? You got it? Okay,

1287
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: kissed me on. I don't know. Everyone sounds annoying so far. Now,

1288
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: if this was just left as a matter of your wedding,

1289
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: your decision, then fine, I get it, and if nothing

1290
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: else it would be easy to navigate. However, the major

1291
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: issues came whenever I chose something my mom didn't agree with.

1292
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 2: Our first big argument came involving the invitations. I had

1293
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: wanted to skip doing save the Dates and figured if

1294
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: we just sent the invites out a year from the

1295
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: set date at the time, then it would work just

1296
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: as well and people could take their time sending RSVPs.

1297
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: I even had my roommate helped design the invites to

1298
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: where we just had to get them printed at the

1299
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: office store. Mom stated it just wasn't how it was done,

1300
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: and since I had no interest, she would just get

1301
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: the save the dates in order. I just had to

1302
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 2: hold off sending the invites. Well, life got busy and

1303
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: she ended up forgetting to get them. No big deal.

1304
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: It was three months before the wedding and I could

1305
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: go with my original plan. And since it was so close,

1306
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: I figured I'd just tell people to email slash text

1307
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 2: me their RSPP so that we could get the numbers

1308
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: the venue needed instantly. Mom didn't like that either, once again,

1309
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: because that's just not what you do so Opie. Also,

1310
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: one can't ask her mom questions. And also every time

1311
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 2: she tries to do something, her mom's like, no, that's

1312
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: all right, you're doing it wrong. You're doing it wrong,

1313
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: That's what she says.

1314
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 4: Let you go.

1315
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: How would I do it the way they do it?

1316
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 2: I tried putting my foot down on this one, telling

1317
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: her it's fine and would make our lives easier. Well,

1318
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: lo and behold, I get a call from her saying

1319
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: she was coming back back from the office store with

1320
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: custom RSVPs printed and ready. I was annoyed, and I'm

1321
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: not good at hiding when I'm annoyed, so when she asked,

1322
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: I told her so. This jump started my mother's brand

1323
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 2: of weaponized guilt, not in a way to guilt me,

1324
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: but in that she just felt so bad she dropped

1325
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: the ball and to save the dates. Then I just

1326
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: wanted to make it right, but now it was ruined

1327
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 2: when I was just fixing my mistake. But fine, I'll

1328
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 2: just throw them away since you hate them so much

1329
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: kind of way. I hate that so much. Yeah, I

1330
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: hate that a lot. I relented on the grounds that

1331
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 2: they were already made anyway, and it's no use leaving

1332
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: them to waste. Next was the bridesmaid's dresses. I never

1333
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 2: saw the appeal and uniformity with the weddings, and my

1334
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: bridesmaids had different body types and personal styles. I had

1335
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: basically told them that they could wear anything as long

1336
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: as it mostly matched colorwise dark, hunter, forest green, and

1337
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: I'd help pay if need be. When Mom heard of this,

1338
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: she tried to convince me against it, saying, how I

1339
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: shouldn't be so worried about other people at my wedding day.

1340
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: I yeah, I have to be, what do you?

1341
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1342
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't that I was worried about their opinions.

1343
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: I just didn't care if they matched or not. She

1344
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: kept pushing, and I kept telling her it's fine, which

1345
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: led to her throwing in my face that there should

1346
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 2: be some uniformity with how much they were spending on

1347
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 2: the wedding. I was hurt because we had constant talks

1348
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: about how bad I felt that things were getting so

1349
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 2: expensive between the wedding and between the venue and the

1350
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: wedding dress alone, and every time she said they had

1351
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: it and to stop worrying now, it just felt like

1352
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: she was saving it for this moment, and I nearly

1353
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 2: called off the whole thing while we could still get

1354
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: the deposits back and I could pay her back for

1355
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: the dress while me and my husband eloped, a suggestion

1356
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 2: I wish I took my coworker's advice on literally every

1357
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 2: story is like and we could have eloped, but we didn't.

1358
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: We did it. We had well, don't tell us that

1359
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: every story pretty much is just that. My husband to

1360
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: be talked me down from the ledge in private, reasoning

1361
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: that it would legitimately cause a rift between me and

1362
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: my mother's otherwise stable relationship. We just had to get

1363
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: through this and the wedding and the whole thing would

1364
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: be over and we could work towards paying them back

1365
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 2: if she made a habit of using the money against

1366
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: us when she wanted to get her way. She apologized

1367
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: afterwards for using it against me and legitimately never brought

1368
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: it up again, but it set the tone for the

1369
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 2: rest of the wedding planning, since I couldn't shake the

1370
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: feeling like that money was now hanging over my head

1371
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 2: with every decision. I took my bride'smaids to the shop

1372
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: and they did end up agreeing on a dress they

1373
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: both liked and fit them, so the matter was settled.

1374
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: The big fight we had involved getting a the deeographer,

1375
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 2: though this was after months of the previous issues and

1376
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 2: just became our breaking point at this point. I don't

1377
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 2: think either of us remembers whose idea it was to

1378
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: have one in the first place, as we just both

1379
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: kept saying the other insisted on it. As stated previously,

1380
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: a lot of things got booked late and I couldn't

1381
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 2: find any available that didn't cost a massive amount of money.

1382
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to let the whole thing go, but she

1383
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: pressed on that we will find someone who can do

1384
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: it after so long and no luck. My roommate said

1385
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: he had a friend who did some video work and

1386
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: would do it for about one hundred dollars for the

1387
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: full ceremony and fun reception.

1388
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 4: Shot cheap, Yeah, that is really cheap for what a

1389
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 4: guy just like pulls up with an old iPhone.

1390
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: I brought this up to my mom, who was not

1391
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 2: happy with the idea and kept questioning the validity of

1392
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 2: his work, but then turned around and stated that it

1393
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 2: was my choice and if that's what I really wanted,

1394
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: then fine. But anytime I brought up what he can

1395
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 2: offer or what he'd done previously and asked her what

1396
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: she thought, she wanted nothing to do with it and

1397
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 2: started finding fault with him that she'll point out, but

1398
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 2: once again telling me it's my decision. Her wishy washy

1399
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: attitude had me give up on it. But then she

1400
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: fully backtracked and got mad that I backed off because

1401
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 2: she didn't like the idea, which led to a massive

1402
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 2: blow up. The frustration from the previous incidents built up,

1403
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: and I pressed on her how she kept changing her

1404
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: mind on how involved she was with the decisions. Yeah,

1405
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: that seems to be the problem throughout the whole thing. Yeah,

1406
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: it's like to be a decision and then go, no,

1407
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: just kidding, it's your decision. Yeah, but she'll do it

1408
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 2: like aggressively or like passive aggression. She'll make you feel

1409
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 2: bad about it. This is ridiculous. I told her that

1410
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 2: it seemed it's my wedding until she didn't like something,

1411
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: and she didn't take it well. This fight lasted a

1412
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 2: couple weeks until her, my dad, my fiance, and I

1413
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 2: sat down to try and hash out the final details.

1414
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,799
Speaker 2: It was tense and we both show her anger very visibly,

1415
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,480
Speaker 2: which would set the other off, making the conversation continuously

1416
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 2: coming back around to the videographer, until my fiance snapped

1417
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 2: and told us to shut up about it and move on. Eventually,

1418
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: she left, first stating she had no more business adding

1419
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 2: her in booked and to just hash out the financials

1420
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 2: with my father, and again she goes the guilty, Yeah,

1421
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: just go ahead and hash out the finance. So after

1422
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 2: a few more weeks we became amicable again and focused

1423
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 2: on keeping things light with the wedding so close. But

1424
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 2: there was still tension and she would get snippy if

1425
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 2: I stated I didn't like an idea of hers with

1426
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 2: an angry fine, whatever do it your way attitude. The

1427
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: day of was happy, bar for the fact that someone

1428
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: brought the VID in half the guests got sick after it,

1429
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: but I just see it as the day the drama

1430
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 2: finally edhes. That was a year ago, and I'm only

1431
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: bringing it up because now we've been dealing with repairing

1432
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: my kitchen ceiling, and she started doing the same cycle

1433
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 2: of we'll do it your way, followed immediately with but

1434
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: why would you do it this way? Only this time

1435
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 2: she and my dad keep sniping at each other and

1436
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: Mingming is upset. Due to my dad's age, she can't

1437
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: do a lot of heavy lifting, but he's also the

1438
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 2: only one who knows what we're supposed to be doing

1439
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 2: and can only direct while actively working on it. Because

1440
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 2: of this, he gets frustrated easily and has what we

1441
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 2: call an e fit counter. By the time he said

1442
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: some variation of effort four times, we know he's actually done.

1443
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: My mom knows this, has lived with it for thirty years,

1444
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: and yet for some reason, she's completely forgotten how to

1445
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: handle it. So anytime my dad utters the first effort,

1446
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: she gets upset and tries to drag him back before

1447
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,839
Speaker 2: he figures out what to do. This, in turn, pisses

1448
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 2: my father off, so he starts telling her no, but

1449
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: in a tone that pisses her off more so she

1450
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 2: emphatically says yes and starts working on things she doesn't

1451
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: even fully understand, looping back to pissing off my father

1452
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: even more. It happens multiple times. I just it's so

1453
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: old loop loop, the old vicious cycle. Me and my

1454
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 2: husband have tried to step between them or fine middle

1455
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 2: ground solutions to keep the peace. I've tried telling my

1456
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 2: mom to calm down and let him figure it out,

1457
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 2: but she once again is feeling guilty because the project

1458
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: has been slow going because life happens. He refuses to

1459
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: listen when I tell her I'd rather like it take

1460
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: its time and prevent more fights and drama, but she's

1461
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 2: taken that to mean that I don't trust her and

1462
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 2: water off the project. Keep in mind, both of them

1463
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: are exacerbating the issue by getting snappy with each other

1464
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: in the exact way they know we'll get under each

1465
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 2: other's skin. Neither of them are blameless, inness, but my

1466
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 2: mom keeps thinking being cheeky and stubborn is the way

1467
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: to go about this, and is using her guilt to

1468
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: get anyone who tries to stop her to back off.

1469
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 2: On top of the fact that her and my dad

1470
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: are funding the repairs on her insistence, so that adds

1471
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 2: on the financial dependency we have. That also makes it

1472
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: hard to set hard boundaries out of sheared guilt and obligation,

1473
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 2: and all of that has drudged up memories from my wedding,

1474
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 2: and now all I can feel is the same dread

1475
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 2: as I did then, as I'm waiting for another shoot

1476
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: to dram It makes it hard to put on that

1477
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: level of excitement that my mom thinks I should be at,

1478
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,839
Speaker 2: which adds to her irritation. You know what, I'm irritated

1479
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 2: by h hit me with it. When you guys don't

1480
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: listen to full episodes with stories like this on Apple podcasts,

1481
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 2: Spotify or your favorite podcast app, just search up ogay

1482
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: story time. You really hit me with that one. But

1483
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 2: now out man, oh man, your mom socks. It also

1484
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 2: sounds like Opie's husband is like, stop fighting. I don't care.

1485
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,879
Speaker 2: It's like I'm over this. Make it stop.

1486
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 4: Also like, if this was what the process, if the

1487
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 4: process was so terrible during your wedding, don't have this

1488
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 4: person involved in any of the processes that you are

1489
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 4: involved in anymore.

1490
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 2: She get you don't have to necessarily cut her off

1491
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 2: but like, don't involve her in any planning ever. I'm

1492
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 2: not really looking for advice on this, As I said,

1493
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: I just need to scream this in to the void

1494
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 2: because as of late I've just basically been repeating the

1495
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,919
Speaker 2: same thing to my husband and he's probably so elated

1496
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 2: about that that he already knows. And the one or

1497
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: two people I've tried confining in only get as far

1498
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 2: as she's paying for everything before basically shutting me down.

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Speaker 2: I'm really really trying not to be ungrateful for it,

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Speaker 2: but it's hard to navigate someone who essentially wants me

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Speaker 2: to take charge but somehow also has the same exact

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Speaker 2: ideas that they have without them having to convince me.

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Speaker 2: I may delete this later when I fully regretted, thinking

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Speaker 2: the internet wouldn't be harsh. We'll see thank you for

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Speaker 2: reading either way, but that is the end of the episode,

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Speaker 2: So if you love us, make sure to subscribe. We

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