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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio App. Welcome in, oh Ah, hope

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Speaker 1: you're having a great day. You're getting ready for the

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Speaker 1: Fourth of July. You know what that means? All right,

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Speaker 1: that's sound of fireworks?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing that? That's actually pretty convincing.

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Speaker 1: I'm I have like a well, no I am. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Sam, I know you're older than you. Like

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Speaker 1: Sam has a very youthful vibe. When Sam is a greatpa,

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Speaker 1: he'll be like the most beloved grandpa ever won because

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Speaker 1: like a grandpa he has that Cliff Claven knows a

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Speaker 1: little bit about a lot of things. But two, he

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Speaker 1: plays younger than he is, right, plays younger than he is.

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Speaker 1: Like honestly, like, Sam has the spirit of like twenty

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Speaker 1: five twenty six year old dude and he's in his thirties.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Other people say, I'm like the spirit of a seventy

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Speaker 3: five year old man. So I'm kind of like a

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Speaker 3: mix of all the du.

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Speaker 1: That's the Cliff Claven thing and when you know these

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Speaker 1: these interesting facts whatever. But I did you Police Academy movies?

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Speaker 1: Did you ever watch any of them?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, I've seen little clips of them,

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Speaker 3: but I've not watched him front to back, and there's like,

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Speaker 3: what nine of them or something?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, really everybody else stopped? Was it citizens

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Speaker 1: on patrol? Was that the last time that was a

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Speaker 1: Police Academy three or four?

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Speaker 3: Jay stew No, I do so the last time Steve

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Speaker 3: Gutenberg got like a CD Slisberg.

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Speaker 1: Was Yes, that's that's exactly That's exactly it, right. But again,

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Speaker 1: part of it was there was a guy Michael Winslow,

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Speaker 1: and Michael Winslow had a little bit of a run there, right,

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Speaker 1: and he was running. He did all the sounds, which

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Speaker 1: I don't know what what is that? What is that called?

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Speaker 1: That's not called pantomime, is it? Jase, do any idea

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Speaker 1: what that's called?

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Speaker 2: Beatboxer, noise maker, beat boxer.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: But he can also do the like the.

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Speaker 2: A man of ten thousand sound effects.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Covino and Rich actually interviewed him once

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Speaker 3: and he just started doing all those sound effects and

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Speaker 3: they were like, yeah, this is a little weird but cool.

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Speaker 1: Right, So if you grew up in that era, you

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Speaker 1: had a special affinity for it and you did your

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Speaker 1: own to various different As you guys know, there are

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Speaker 1: voices I do which I don't think you can do

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Speaker 1: I could do it, lou nobody you could be upscited.

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Speaker 1: Oh when I do alu ho. But I A'll go

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Speaker 2: I hope tomorrow we just hear the uh the dug

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Speaker 3: I hope tomorrow we hear the Doug Gottlieb centric FSR

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Speaker 3: promo where it's just you going, what am America Boom'?

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Speaker 1: That's actually pretty good. You know what it's at, the

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Speaker 1: speaking of boob it's at Thursday. So Jay Stu invented

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Speaker 1: something we called don't call it a throwback Thursday.

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Speaker 5: Don't call it a throwback Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Say it, jay Stu, say it.

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Speaker 2: Thank You's take it from here on this day, on

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Speaker 2: this date in two thousand and ten. Now, think about it.

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Speaker 2: We are exiting the nots and we're entering very twenty ten.

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Speaker 3: He calls them the knots. They're called the ots, and

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Speaker 3: then I think of garlic knots.

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Speaker 2: I call him the knots. It makes it different than

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Speaker 2: the knots. Very farm the thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Yes, think about what you were doing. You want to

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Speaker 2: Remember that year. Well, Teddy Roosevelt was exiting the White House?

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Speaker 1: We were coming out of the we're starting to recover

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Speaker 2: In the mid terms. And don't get me started on

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Speaker 2: had these tears. He's always just very emotional, loved smoking cigarettes.

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Speaker 2: Shane smoking very emotional and he had his face. It's

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Speaker 2: like a catcher's met heaters.

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Speaker 1: Basically it catches me because he smoked all those heaters.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this year, this date, what is it, the third

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Speaker 2: of July twenty ten, something incredible happened the Serena Williams

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much she finished up with. Maybe

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Speaker 2: Nancy could do her homework on that one.

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Speaker 1: Can I be the guy? Can I be that guy?

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Speaker 1: Since we've talked about this tournament a lot recently, it

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Speaker 2: It's not Wimbledon, Nope, it's a fortnite. It's a Fortnite.

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Speaker 2: You gotta wear white, you know what. Since we're talking

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Speaker 2: The Olympics were that year Olympics, and you probably remember

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Speaker 2: the name Sean White. That was twenty ten in London.

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Speaker 2: You probably remember the name oh Landon Donovan was in

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Speaker 1: the Gold Cup last night?

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Speaker 1: He didn't.

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Speaker 7: Oh you were a yeah, yeah, Landon Donovan and look

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Speaker 7: as a guy who's folliclely challenged on some level, I understand,

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Speaker 2: He was dealt a tough hand.

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Speaker 1: Tough hand. Yeah, and because he's got the ball, he's

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Speaker 1: you just quit before it before it's called fire yet,

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Speaker 1: before it quits on you, because it's quit on him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: Tough one. So again I have I understand, I understand.

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Speaker 2: So those were the lower tier sports of the year.

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Speaker 2: We got the Olympics, we got the World Cup. Exciting

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Speaker 2: your twenty ten and Wimbledon. Monsey, what do you remember

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Speaker 2: most about twenty ten? What were you getting into college?

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Speaker 6: But that was the year that Blake Griffin actually played

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Speaker 6: beginning of the Clippers being cool?

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Speaker 5: Honestly all thanks to Blay Griffin.

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Speaker 7: She's not wrong, right, it's the beginning of the of

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Speaker 1: She's not She's not lob City, She's not wrong. Twenty

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Speaker 1: ten in college basketball, Uh, the Dookies all, let me

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Speaker 1: tell you, let me tell you. They had John Shia.

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Speaker 1: John Shaya helped take the Dukies to a national title.

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Speaker 1: But that NCAA title is more known for a missed

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Speaker 1: But Gordon Hayward heaving up at mid court shot somehow

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Speaker 2: Sam, what was Iowa football doing in twenty times? Let's

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Speaker 2: go back to let's actually go back. So we were

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Speaker 2: talking about.

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Speaker 1: Iowa football plays like it's the US.

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Speaker 3: They actually had a lot expected of than that year,

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Speaker 3: and they were an underwhelming eight and five, I believe.

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Speaker 3: But we were talking about pitchers. We would take like

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Speaker 3: go back to twenty ten, it was the San Francisco Giants,

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Speaker 3: they had that deep stable of pitchers, Tim Linskum, Matt

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Speaker 2: Never forget Zito, maybe very Zito was on that team,

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Speaker 3: And so you uh that that was the beginning of

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Speaker 2: Right, you're right. In a good year, Aaron Rodgers got

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Speaker 2: I know we get confused here. Twenty ten season was

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Speaker 2: the year of Aaron Rodgers. You got uh brought the

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Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about about that? But bringing up

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Speaker 1: played golf with this morning?

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers? No?

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Speaker 1: Well, Mark Murphy, who used the perfect word to describe

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, do you remember what the word was?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Complicated?

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Speaker 1: Complicated? Squidly We talked for about three three holes about

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Speaker 1: the word complicated. What a great word, perfect word, because

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Speaker 1: complicated has so many negative characteristics. But it's not actually

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Speaker 1: a negative word. It's a lot like mediocre mediocre, right,

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Speaker 1: where to anybody mediocre be like, oh that bad Hout's mediocre? Like, no,

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Speaker 1: mediocre is average, it's in the middle.

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Speaker 3: I would describe Rogers as complex because then that that

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Speaker 3: because it's complicated a little more negative. I think complex

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Speaker 3: take him in over a fifteen year period and understand

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Speaker 3: all the different moves he's made and things he said.

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Speaker 3: But back in back when he won that Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: he was like mister popular. I mean he was in commercials.

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Speaker 3: Then we're like, man, this guy.

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Speaker 1: Is an It was the discount double check.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he did a lot.

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Speaker 1: By the way, complicated is consisting of many interconnecting parts

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Speaker 1: or elements, intricate. Yeah, that's probably many different confusing aspects.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that sums him up. That does some of

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Speaker 2: them up. I will say this, that was complicated. Words evolve,

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Speaker 2: and especially in our lexicon, So like, mediocre has become

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Speaker 2: below average. Yeah, just like literally has become figuratively, Uh,

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Speaker 2: what what word did you use last week? Theory? Theory

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Speaker 2: it's like conspiracy theory. Anyways, I saw an interview there

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Speaker 2: in Rodgers in twenty ten. It was the strangest thing,

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Speaker 2: and he was he took his headphones off and they

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Speaker 2: were like, what are you listening to right now? This

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Speaker 2: it was one of the songs of the year.

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Speaker 1: I was on a plane sitting next to him once.

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Speaker 1: What's his name?

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Speaker 2: Well, this is train train right, ye, sister.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the leads here? Train's name? Mm?

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Speaker 2: Pat Monaghan?

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Speaker 1: Is it really?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we're He came up on He.

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Speaker 3: Came up on Coveno and Rich because we were talking

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Speaker 1: going to join us. Three time World Series Champion, six

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Speaker 1: And coming off a night where Clayton Krushaw has his

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Speaker 1: Kurt Chilling joins US World Series Champion. He joined US

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Speaker 1: Kurt three thousand strikeouts in a seventeen year story career

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Speaker 1: What does the three thousand strikeouts signify to you? Watching

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Speaker 8: You know what first ballas Hall of Fame human beings

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Speaker 1: The podcast is called The Complete Game. You need to

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Speaker 1: watch it on YouTube. That's probably the easiest way to

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Speaker 1: a home run and then a back to back. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you break this stuff down. His velo is a

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Speaker 1: little down last night. Is miss Rowski? Is he a

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Speaker 1: guy here to stay or is he a guy that

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Speaker 1: I don't think that lasts.

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Speaker 8: I like him better than I like a lot of

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Speaker 8: young guys. A couple episodes ago I talked about him. Uh,

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Speaker 8: there's a much more polished delivery than than a lot

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Speaker 8: of these other guys I'm talking about, especially for his age.

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Speaker 8: The problem is he's not ready for the big legs.

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Speaker 8: I don't care about this stuff. He hasn't back and

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Speaker 8: you know, I know I sound our kick and I

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Speaker 8: sound like the old guy. Get off my long guy.

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Speaker 8: But back in the day, you went through the minor

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Speaker 8: league by mastering the level you were at and moving on. Sure, right,

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Speaker 8: and each level is a little bit more effort. Each

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Speaker 8: level is a little bit mentally and physically harder, and

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Speaker 8: there's a gradual process to getting to the big leagues.

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Speaker 8: And I used my personal analogy. When I got to

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Speaker 8: the big leagues, I made my debut, had a decent start,

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Speaker 8: went seven innings, and then I got my ass handed

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Speaker 8: to me for three three games and I drove home

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Speaker 8: that winter. And the thing I tell everybody it was

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Speaker 8: a similar moment in my career because I drove from

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Speaker 8: Baltimore to Phoenix, Arizona, and during the drive, I had

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Speaker 8: an epiphany and it was, Hey, you know what, I'm

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Speaker 8: not ready, but I can do this. And that came

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Speaker 8: from having five to six seven hundred innings in the

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Speaker 8: minor leagues I threw. I had a couple two hundred

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Speaker 8: innings seasons in the minor league. I threw eight or

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Speaker 8: nine complete games in a couple of different minor league

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Speaker 8: se I knew how to pitch in the eighth inning

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Speaker 8: and the ninth inning and with runners in scoring position.

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Speaker 8: Those are all the things you learned. I learned how

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Speaker 8: to pitch inside in the minor league, none of them.

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Speaker 8: So what I basically, I'm saying is I had the

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Speaker 8: toolbox when I got to the big leagues, I just

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Speaker 8: figure out how I had to figure out how to

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Speaker 8: use the tools. These guys get the big league, they

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Speaker 8: don't have the toolbox, and I use a guy I'm

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Speaker 8: Chased Dollander in Colorado. These guys are coming up with

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Speaker 8: fifteen triple A ine and you know, one hundred and

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Speaker 8: sixteen minor league innings spread out over two and a

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Speaker 8: half seasons. There's this enormous rush to get these guys

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Speaker 8: to the big leagues. And I don't understand it. Right,

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Speaker 8: You're the Colorado Rockies. We all know what kind of

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Speaker 8: season they're having, right, I mean, it's it's misery. What

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Speaker 8: is Chase Dollander learning in the big leagues right now?

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Speaker 8: Because we're alpha guys, right, I mean, we're all alpha athletes.

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Speaker 8: We've always been the best at what we did where

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Speaker 8: we were. You get to the big league, everybody's a

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Speaker 8: good or better than you. You're not in the big

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Speaker 8: leagues as a young pitcher thinking I'm going to take

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Speaker 8: this thart and I'm going to try and learn how

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Speaker 8: to do this. You're taking the ball going I gotta win,

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Speaker 8: and there's no development there and I said this. I

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Speaker 8: went back and I looked, and this is how I

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Speaker 8: know it's sport wide. I went back and looked at

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Speaker 8: a couple guys in junior colleges. These guys were all

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Speaker 8: first Trump picks. I looked at him in junior college.

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Speaker 8: I looked at him in college. I looked at him

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Speaker 8: the big leagues, and we're the exact same pitcher at

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Speaker 8: twenty three to twenty four in the big leagues that

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Speaker 8: they were in junior college. Physically, mechanically, people should be

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Speaker 8: fired for that. But the chase for velocity and the

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Speaker 8: money seemed to create a sense of haste in promoting minds.

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Speaker 8: It shouldn't exist. Would you rather have a guy come

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Speaker 8: up at twenty two and have his Tommy John, because

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Speaker 8: there are most of these guys that are on their

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Speaker 8: way to Tommy John or some shoulder problem because of

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Speaker 8: their deliveries. But would you rather have that guy at

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Speaker 8: twenty two who knows nothing about the big leagues, bounce

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Speaker 8: around for three four five years and then become a

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Speaker 8: free agent when he starts to learn how to pitch

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Speaker 8: in the big leagues, Or would you rather have him

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Speaker 8: at twenty three twenty four as polished as he could

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Speaker 8: be and then learn that way. You know, the process

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Speaker 8: is so broken right now, and teams are losing and

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Speaker 8: these four is losing billions of dollars in I our time.

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Speaker 8: The picture is because of the approach.

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Speaker 1: It's really really interesting stuff. And yeah, they want to

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Speaker 1: also get the big league, gettings quicker to arbitration right,

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Speaker 1: and the qui qui contract.

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Speaker 8: But you know what the problem is the only way

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Speaker 8: a kid could be the same picture he was in

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Speaker 8: junior college is if you have a minor league system

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Speaker 8: of coaches afraid to coach. Right, some of these guys

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Speaker 8: coming to their first day in rookie ball, you would

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Speaker 8: take them to the bullpen and go, okay, listen, this

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Speaker 8: isn't going to work. You have the foundation, but here's

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Speaker 8: what we need to pick the problem is that coaches

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Speaker 8: don't want to be the guy that broke the first

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Speaker 8: round pick. Right, you're talking about five six eight, what

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Speaker 8: was schemes? Nine million dollars. No one's gonna no one's

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Speaker 8: gonna want to be the guy that that maybe broke

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Speaker 8: him or changed him because he throws really hard, and

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Speaker 8: you can't do that. You have to be hands on

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Speaker 8: with these young men, and you have to make them understand. Listen,

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Speaker 8: these guys are getting paid. Think about this. These guys

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Speaker 8: are getting paid thirty million dollars a year to throw

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Speaker 8: one hundred and seventy five innings? Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 8: One hundred seventy five innings was like mid August total,

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Speaker 8: and now it's not. I mean thirty five starts a year.

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Speaker 8: Seven innings. That starts two hundred and forty five innings.

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Speaker 8: When was the last time anybody even sniffed that?

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Speaker 1: I probably never again? So okay, so let me let

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Speaker 1: me ask you this. Let me get to a couple

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Speaker 1: of other things. Kurt Schilling joining us. The complete game

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Speaker 1: is the podcast. Download where you're download podcast. Of course

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Speaker 1: you can watch it on YouTube as well. Uh, let's

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Speaker 1: get to the Dodgers. Jason Stewart is my producer. The

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Speaker 1: Dodgers drive him crazy, not because he doesn't think they're talented,

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Speaker 1: but because it's like they so badly want to be

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Speaker 1: able to do it without a closer, like a designated closer,

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Speaker 1: like here's our guy, right. They want the new era

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Speaker 1: of baseball. It did work last year?

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Speaker 8: Are you a believer it doesn't work? Why it's never

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Speaker 8: worked because sabermetricians can't understand that getting the last three

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Speaker 8: outs of the game are the hardest three outs of

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Speaker 8: the game to get. Yeah, they just are. You can

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Speaker 8: like that, dislike that, you can be a fantasy. Oh

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Speaker 8: it's different. It's different. And the analogy I've always used

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Speaker 8: is October baseball is like pitching the ninth inning with

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Speaker 8: the one run lead. Every inning, every hitter in the

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Speaker 8: ninth inning of a close game is approaching the differently.

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Speaker 8: They just do right. And in October, every single hitter,

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Speaker 8: every single at bat, the hitters at the plate approaching

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Speaker 8: it like a nine thing. At bat, They're different. Out,

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Speaker 8: I get the hole, bring my guy in in the

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Speaker 8: highest leverage situation in the seventh inning because they're second

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Speaker 8: and third and I need to punch outs and whatever.

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Speaker 8: But probably the biggest culprit in the new phase of

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Speaker 8: pitching our relievers. These guys are just coming and thrown

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Speaker 8: as hard as they want. And if you if you

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Speaker 8: doubt what I'm saying, just watch an inning. Watch the

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Speaker 8: catcher's glove on fastballs and the fact that you almost

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Speaker 8: have to be Jerry Rice to catch some of these fastballs,

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Speaker 8: as opposed to being a big league catcher. Guys set

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Speaker 8: up down and in the wather to throw the ball

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Speaker 8: up and away. Guy sits up down in a way,

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Speaker 8: throws the ball in middle middle guy swings and missus.

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Speaker 8: Everybody says, great pitch. It's just there's metrics that aren't

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Speaker 8: being measured, and they're they're meaningful from a standpoint of pitching.

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Speaker 8: But getting the last three I remember, if you remember

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Speaker 8: way back, the Red Sox tried that whole bullpen by

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Speaker 8: committee of approach in the early two thousands and failed

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Speaker 8: miserably at it. It's just different. The human psyche is different.

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Speaker 8: And I'm on the mound in the ninth inning. Well

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Speaker 8: as a starter. When I was on the mound in

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Speaker 8: the ninth inning, I knew those three outs were different

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Speaker 8: than the first twenty four I've gotten as a reliever.

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Speaker 8: That's your whole life. Well, think about this. If it

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Speaker 8: was not that different, then there would be a lot

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Speaker 8: of Trevor Hoffins and Mariano Rivera's with six hundred career

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Speaker 8: stage right. Yeah, But there's not, and there won't be there.

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Speaker 1: There's not. Kurt, you're the best man. It's not just

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Speaker 1: because you have credibility in your opinion, but you also

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Speaker 1: do the work to the research and getting us ready

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Speaker 1: for the upcoming MLB Draft. This is awesome stuff. Can't

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Speaker 1: wait talk with you next week again, allybody, It's the

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Speaker 1: complete game, Kurt Shilling, Download it and check it out

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Speaker 1: on YouTube.

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Speaker 8: Thanks Kurt, take it easy.

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Speaker 1: Brother, six time All Star and he's awesome. It's just

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Speaker 1: a tremendous, tremendous baseball mind here listening to us now,

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Speaker 1: iHeart radio app. It always pop up right in your streen. Hey,

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Speaker 1: there's a young gentleman named Caleb high Tower. Caleb apparently

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Speaker 1: writes for the Sporting News. I bring up the Sporting

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Speaker 1: News beak because it was my favorite publication when I

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Speaker 1: first started in this business. Jase, dude, did you like

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Speaker 1: the Sporting News? Did you? Did you? Were you subscriber

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Speaker 1: at all?

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Speaker 2: Uh? No? And no, I Sporting News uh never never

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Speaker 2: resonated with me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Back in the early two thousands, Sporting News they

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Speaker 1: had basically they had like beat writers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the early knots. Huh, I mean the early knots.

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Speaker 1: The early knots, yes, Carla, the early garlic knots. Okay

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Speaker 1: that I remember. You get it and they give you

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Speaker 1: a little nugget and it was really good. I'm just

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Speaker 1: it was an all inclusive magazine, whereas sports illustrats started

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Speaker 1: to go the way of big stories but didn't have

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Speaker 1: little details. This is again also before the Internet. Really

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Speaker 1: really kicked in the gear to where periodicals became. You know,

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Speaker 1: they went the way of the Dodo. Anyway, Now Sporting News,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who writes for it or whatever. It's

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Speaker 1: partially aggregated, but the headline is Warriors may acquire nine

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Speaker 1: I'm All Star after Bucks massive blunder of like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you got me with the headline the Bucks made a

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Speaker 1: massive blunder. So it goes along to say that Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: released Damian Lillard. Okay, and somebody from the Daily Democrat

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Speaker 1: says should the Warriors bring back to bring home the

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Speaker 1: hometown thirty four year old who will likely missed the

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Speaker 1: upcoming season with an achilles injury. It's an interesting question, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, what is the Bucks blunder? I'm looking

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Speaker 1: and then I look back to the second paragraph. While

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Speaker 1: signing a nine time All Star wouldn't help bolster the

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Speaker 1: franchise's weak front court, it could help them capitalize on

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee's the Mawukee Bucks massive blunder? What is the blunder?

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Speaker 1: I bring this up because this gentleman, Caleb high Tower.

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Speaker 1: I looked he graduated from Hofstra in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: He's young when I was twenty four to twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I first started in this business at the national level

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Speaker 1: at twenty six. I made mistakes, okay, but I don't

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Speaker 1: know what he considers the blunder. Releasing Lillard the blunder

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Speaker 1: who wasn't going to play for them, and everybody says

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Speaker 1: was probably the right move, including Damian Lillard. Was it

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Speaker 1: a blunder because it reportedly upset gianas although we don't

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Speaker 1: know the validity of whether or not he was actually upset.

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Speaker 1: What was the blunder? I don't know. Let's do better.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the press, the press. What he got there? Month?

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Speaker 2: Tybe all right, coach.

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Speaker 6: So apparently Guardians starting starting pitcher Luis Orthies has been

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Speaker 6: placed on paid leave over a reported MLB investigation into gambling.

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Speaker 6: There was two pitches that were flagged by a betting

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Speaker 6: integrity firm. The first alert, according to this article by ESPN,

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Speaker 6: was sent June fifteenth and triggered by action on or

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Speaker 6: Thesi's first pitch against the Mariners in the bottom of

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Speaker 6: the second inning to be a ball or hit bat

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Speaker 6: or hit the guy batting hits batsman, Yes or These

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Speaker 6: opened the inning with a slider that was well outside

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Speaker 6: the strike zone. The second alert June twenty seventh, another

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Speaker 6: first pitch, this time against the Cardinals on the top

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Speaker 6: of the third inning being a ball or a hit batsman,

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Speaker 6: and or these open the inning with a slider even

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Speaker 6: farther outside the strike zone.

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Speaker 2: So that's is this a nothing burger again?

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Speaker 1: It's going to depend on betting your regularities on it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, my guess is they wouldn't do it

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Speaker 1: unless they had some something set up the alarm betting

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Speaker 1: your regularity, like a large sum of money on a

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Speaker 1: random first pitch and the second inning. And oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, they can track where all those bets comfort came.

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Speaker 1: M So my guess is it's not nothing burger. Is

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Speaker 1: a burger? Not a nothing burger?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: All right, it's a double cheese.

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Speaker 2: It's a double cheese.

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Speaker 1: I see an alt burger. Maybe I don't. I'm not

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Speaker 1: really sure they're all right.

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Speaker 6: Well, Sophie Cunningham has clarified her recent remarks about the

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Speaker 6: day decision to EXPREDT.

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Speaker 1: Can help Mancy Sam with the correct.

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Speaker 3: Oh Sophie's Stunningham, you mean, and there she is, here

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Speaker 3: she is.

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Speaker 4: I know the history behind the WNBA I know that

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Speaker 4: both of those cities have had teams before, and they

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Speaker 4: got us rat So I'm thankful for that. All I

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Speaker 4: was really getting at is like Broadway, the off core lifestyle,

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Speaker 4: and so I think that is really intriguing. I think

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Speaker 4: Miami's intriguing. That's all I was getting, and I'm thankful

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Speaker 4: for what they've done for our history of the sport.

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Speaker 4: I think it'd be fun to kind of get some

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Speaker 4: teams outside of the NBA market. I do think there

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Speaker 4: is benefit when you do have an NBA team, But

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Speaker 4: that's all I was getting in I think people totally

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Speaker 4: missed for that situation. I would never speak down upon

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Speaker 4: middle class, blue collar working people.

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Speaker 2: That's where I come from.

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Speaker 4: I'm from Missouri, I get I'm in Indiana, and that's

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Speaker 4: kind of why I'm hinting at Broadway sounds fun, Sophie,

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Speaker 4: and Miami sounds fun.

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Speaker 1: All I was getting Miami does sound fun?

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Speaker 2: It does?

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Speaker 1: It does?

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Speaker 2: It does?

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Speaker 6: So yeah, she had to kind of, you know, explain

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Speaker 6: herself a little bit. She got a little bit of backlash.

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Speaker 2: Last do I time for a quick one?

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Speaker 1: Shandis there? Go go? Okay?

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Speaker 6: So Ben Shelton at Wimbledon, right now they suspended play

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Speaker 6: because it was supposedly too dark. He was up five

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Speaker 6: games to four in his final third set, already winning

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Speaker 6: the first two set, was about to serve like could

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Speaker 6: have finished the long match, and then they said no, it's.

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Speaker 1: Too dark and it's not dark.

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Speaker 2: I would have been so mad.

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Speaker 1: They used to play with white tennis balls at Wimbledon.

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Speaker 1: That's how old I'll be on the hurd tomorrow. Dan

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Speaker 1: bayerb Fieling in for me. Have a great third, have

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Speaker 1: a say fourth. We'll talk to you that. Doug otlip Pio,

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