Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two on this Tuesday, we'll check in
Speaker 1: with Dan Orlovsky for the Mothership and then in the
Speaker 1: final hour, the fishing controversy that is sweeping the nation
Speaker 1: competitive fishing competition where there were hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 1: dollars at stake. Yes, so it's a series of events
Speaker 1: each weekend in different parts of the state of Ohio,
Speaker 1: I believe, and apparently the winners there were two guys.
Speaker 1: They were putting weights in the fish after they caught them,
Speaker 1: so when they were weighed, they weighed more. Therefore they
Speaker 1: ended up winning the competition. There could be felony charges
Speaker 1: involved in this, that's how serious this is. But we'll
Speaker 1: talk to a writer for the Toledo Blade who's covering
Speaker 1: this and the competitive Yeah, I was wondering about that.
Speaker 1: With a chess or poker, you know, there's money involved.
Speaker 1: Whenever there's money, there's the temptation to cheat or bend
Speaker 1: the rules, whatever it might be. But you have this
Speaker 1: chess master, what is Magnus Carlson something like that, and
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be the best chess player of all time,
Speaker 1: but he lost recently to a really young competitor, and
Speaker 1: he knew right away that in his mind he was
Speaker 1: getting help this other chess player. Now, did he have
Speaker 1: something on his body that vibrated to let him know,
Speaker 1: make that move? Don't make that move. They then played
Speaker 1: again before I think his competitor made one move, be
Speaker 1: a grand champion grand master decided I'm not going to
Speaker 1: play that. He felt that there was something going on there. Yeah, point, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Magnus Carlson, and the youngster is a ninth year
Speaker 1: old Hans and Neiman. I guess smoke Carlson, and Carlson's
Speaker 1: watching him and was concerned how easy he was doing it.
Speaker 1: And there there's a lot of different accusations but no
Speaker 1: specific um how he may have done it, like a
Speaker 1: signaling of a vibrating thing on your body, yes, Studd.
Speaker 1: And they think he got called for too many chess
Speaker 1: pieces on the field. He threw an extra bishop in
Speaker 1: there somehow, which I don't know how he got away
Speaker 1: with that. That wasn't good? Was it offensive? Okay? Hey marv,
Speaker 1: Oh hey guys, it's top fishing for laughs. Yes me,
Speaker 1: rookie move. I was wondering when the guy ran on
Speaker 1: the field of oh rook, okay, yeah, I'm not either,
Speaker 1: And and maybe somebody could help us. Who's a chest
Speaker 1: expert of If if I can give you, If I
Speaker 1: can give you tips on how to beat the greatest
Speaker 1: chess player in the world, why can't I then sit
Speaker 1: down against the greatest chess player in the world beat him.
Speaker 1: We'll look into that. Let me bring in Dan Orlomski.
Speaker 1: It's a busy man. Dan. You can catch him on
Speaker 1: NFL Live weekdays at four Eastern Marcus Spears, Metakimes, Ryan Clark,
Speaker 1: Laura Rutledge, and of course Monday Night Football as well. Dan,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us here. If I plays an honor,
Speaker 1: if I said, who's going further further? This year? The
Speaker 1: Rams are the Niners. Does recency bias play a role? No,
Speaker 1: because the better of those teams in this moment is
Speaker 1: San Francisco. The team that is more capable of making
Speaker 1: a deeper run is the Rams. You know everyone's going
Speaker 1: to talk about last night rightfully so. In the dominant
Speaker 1: performance by San Francisco defensively, the Rams were down four
Speaker 1: of their top six offensive linemen, I would hope San
Speaker 1: Francisco would dominate the line of scrimmage. Given that they're
Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the NFL, the Rams
Speaker 1: do have some issues up front, and they've got to
Speaker 1: get healthy and better there. There's a reason why they
Speaker 1: they play under centers so much right now and try
Speaker 1: to run the ball and play actually because they're trying
Speaker 1: to protect their offensive line. Do I think that Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham is coming to the Los Angeles Rams at some
Speaker 1: point this year? I do that is needed right now.
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson cannot get open, you know, so you'll hear
Speaker 1: everybody today. My boy Marcus Spears is saying it. They
Speaker 1: got to throw to someone else other than Cooper cup. Well,
Speaker 1: you go play quarterback and do it. You know that
Speaker 1: sounds good, But when you got two seconds to get
Speaker 1: the ball in your hands, you're gonna go to the
Speaker 1: guy that you feel is proving I can get open.
Speaker 1: So they gotta get healthy up front. They gotta get
Speaker 1: Odell back because those are two needed pieces. San Francisco.
Speaker 1: No one has questioned can they be good? The thing
Speaker 1: with Trey was man, can Tray make them even better?
Speaker 1: Can he do things offensively that Jimmy cannot? So good
Speaker 1: football team, one of the defenses in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: would not want to play or coach against right now
Speaker 1: is San Francisco. But the difference in the quarterbacking is
Speaker 1: very real, and the Rams can play in a couple
Speaker 1: of different styles. San Francisco has to play in one
Speaker 1: very specific one. I thought San Francisco had the makeup
Speaker 1: to be a better team because it felt like it
Speaker 1: was a more balanced team. They run the football, good
Speaker 1: offensive line, you got a couple of playmakers Kittle and Deebo,
Speaker 1: And it really comes down to Jimmy G. Can Jimmy
Speaker 1: G manage a game? Stafford throws a lot of picks,
Speaker 1: and you know you're gonna start forcing You know what,
Speaker 1: did Cooper cup have eighteen targets? He had fourteen catches,
Speaker 1: but really nothing that was dangerous there. The running game
Speaker 1: was not there because of the offensive line. But I
Speaker 1: just wonder about the offense with the Rams more than
Speaker 1: I do the Niners offense, which sounds crazy. Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 1: I don't have necessarily the wonders of the Rams right now.
Speaker 1: The Rams, and I've just kind of said this about
Speaker 1: a couple of teams there, they don't have the people
Speaker 1: to be who they are right now. So when that happens,
Speaker 1: You're okay, who can we be this week? You know?
Speaker 1: And I think that Sean is trying to figure out
Speaker 1: all right this week because he's sitting down. We got
Speaker 1: to play San Francisco forty nine ers and I got
Speaker 1: three backup offensive linemen and what are it always starts?
Speaker 1: Can you block? How can you block them? All? Right?
Speaker 1: So what can we be this week? And until they
Speaker 1: get healthy upfront? This is very similar to the thoughts
Speaker 1: onlike Tampa Bay as well. Until they get really healthy,
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to say who they can be now.
Speaker 1: If they don't get healthy, Dan, they got no shot.
Speaker 1: That's a real thing. But I don't believe that their
Speaker 1: offensive line is going to be out for the length
Speaker 1: of the season. Do they win with Garoppolo or is
Speaker 1: he with Okay, they don't win because of Jimmy Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: they win with I know that. We love to say,
Speaker 1: you know, all all he does is win Like that
Speaker 1: Debo catch. I mean, really, that's it. The pass was
Speaker 1: not good and Deebo made everybody miss. That could have
Speaker 1: been a pick six there. But there's also something to
Speaker 1: be said for winning with I mean, there's there's there's
Speaker 1: five or six guys that you win because of, and
Speaker 1: then there is another, you know, eight to ten that
Speaker 1: you win with. So there is something to be said
Speaker 1: for we win a lot of games with this guy.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that if he's out, we will win
Speaker 1: a lot of games with just anybody else. But the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine would win a lot of games
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins. They would win a lot of games
Speaker 1: with um. I'm trying to think like another relatively solid
Speaker 1: quarterback that you sit there and Derek Carr. That win
Speaker 1: a lot of games with Derek Carr. So it's not
Speaker 1: like Jimmy, he's a nobody, But Kyle's proven in his
Speaker 1: track record he wins a lot of games with good quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Dan Orlovsky of the mother Ship septem VP.
Speaker 1: I've coined that, trademarked it. Who is your septem VP
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Lamar are Lamar Jackson. You know, candidly,
Speaker 1: he was my pick in the preseason. You know, up
Speaker 1: until last week's game, in a little bit of the
Speaker 1: second half fall off. He was the number one thro
Speaker 1: passing quarterback in the NFL. He was a top five rusher,
Speaker 1: He had counted for ninety percent of their offense. It
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. Credit Josh Allen and Buffalo for their comeback,
Speaker 1: but what Lamar is doing and being asked to do
Speaker 1: is still tremendous. He's covering up for a defense that's
Speaker 1: not very good. He's covering up for a run game
Speaker 1: right now that's not great. In Baltimore, I would say,
Speaker 1: you know me, I can't always just give you one.
Speaker 1: Patrick is absolutely in that conversation. You know. The way
Speaker 1: that Patrick right now is playing is you know, it's
Speaker 1: as good as he's played in his MVP year. And
Speaker 1: the stuff that he is capable of doing now with
Speaker 1: their offensive line is special. And I was thinking about
Speaker 1: this question. I like the third person I would put
Speaker 1: in there is Micah Parsons. I really would. Dallas's defense
Speaker 1: is it's the most I set this on Get up yesterday.
Speaker 1: Dallas has the most reliable play in all of football.
Speaker 1: And that is a passing down situation. If you are
Speaker 1: in an obvious pass situation, and because of Micah, you
Speaker 1: I honestly you have no shot. You have no shot
Speaker 1: against that defense. So those three and now you know
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush is your quarterback, they'll probably try to trade
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, right, he's gonna be Yeah, that's you know what.
Speaker 1: Let's instead of going with the guy that we gave
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty million dollars to, Let's go with
Speaker 1: the guy that wasn't even on our active roster five
Speaker 1: days before Game one. Let's do that. But I did
Speaker 1: point this out the last two weeks. If Dak put
Speaker 1: up the numbers that Cooper Rush did, we'd go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dak didn't have a great game, I mean kind of,
Speaker 1: but estra and he had one touchdown pass and through
Speaker 1: for two hundred and seven yards or something. Cooper Rush,
Speaker 1: We're like, damn, get ready for Canton. Man. This guy's
Speaker 1: unbelievable expectation breeds disappointment. Yeah, I mean, that's the expectations
Speaker 1: where I mean, I was one of those people when
Speaker 1: Dak went down. I was, your season's done if you
Speaker 1: don't get a quarterback, you know, And I honestly felt
Speaker 1: that way because Cooper Rush five years in, he was
Speaker 1: on practice squad and no one's claiming, you know, you're
Speaker 1: sitting there. This offensive line's not gonna be good. Michael
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop won't be back. Cities not proven and no.
Speaker 1: I kind of think one of the things that's interesting
Speaker 1: about Dallas is everybody has to learn from this situation
Speaker 1: in Dallas, not just Dak. Everyone And there's a difference
Speaker 1: between identity and philosophy. You know, for Dallas, you your
Speaker 1: philosophy should not change. You know, when Dak comes back,
Speaker 1: our philosophy should be, well, we're more than Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: Our offensive line can be good in the run game
Speaker 1: and we don't have to try to. Hey, we gotta
Speaker 1: be the number one scoring offense in the NFL. Our
Speaker 1: identity can be philosophically that, Hey, as long as our
Speaker 1: defense isn't put in really bad situations, we're not going
Speaker 1: to give games away. And you know, during the regular season,
Speaker 1: that's a really good way to build yourself up for
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I've been on my soapbox talking about the
Speaker 1: two a situation, wanting to know, even if it's not
Speaker 1: a concussion, if you get up and you stumble like
Speaker 1: that a couple of times, you have to be held up.
Speaker 1: Just the eye test said, you shouldn't be back in
Speaker 1: a football game. You just you shouldn't be. And I
Speaker 1: use the analogy that a former quarterback gave me. If
Speaker 1: I was at a party at your house and I
Speaker 1: got up and I did that would you let me
Speaker 1: drive home? And the answer is no, you would done right,
Speaker 1: But they're sticking with that was a back injury, and
Speaker 1: then this was a concussion, and now he's not playing
Speaker 1: this week, so where do you stand with And then
Speaker 1: they fire the independent neurologist here like somebody had to
Speaker 1: pay a price. So the media people like me would
Speaker 1: go away like, hey, we took care of it, no problem.
Speaker 1: And then Cameron Brad has a concussion on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Now he said it was a shoulder. He goes back
Speaker 1: into the game. Yeah, like I think, you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: this has been a really good, not good conversation. It's
Speaker 1: been a really interesting one. I was on TV the
Speaker 1: day after the TOI stuff, so I saw the tour
Speaker 1: of play and goes down and I've I've had that
Speaker 1: before personally, I've watched my teammates do and you go, yep,
Speaker 1: concussion and then it comes out well in the broadcast back.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's not a back injury or not,
Speaker 1: Like my natural history tells me that looks like a
Speaker 1: head thing. But I've I also have seen people with
Speaker 1: debilitating back issues, like go down like that. You know,
Speaker 1: so I went to school for seventeen years for me
Speaker 1: to graduate college, I don't know. So, yeahbody grabbed his head, sure,
Speaker 1: but but I like, again, my natural thought was, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's concussion. But then when the report comes out back,
Speaker 1: I'm at. I was at the point Dan where I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, there is been such a
Speaker 1: conversation around head injuries in football for ten plus years now,
Speaker 1: and the NFL has done such a good job of
Speaker 1: putting this at the forefront that I have no reason
Speaker 1: not to trust that situation, Like, I have no reason
Speaker 1: to sit there and go absolutely not the Dolphins are lying,
Speaker 1: or that independent neurologist, there's no way that they know
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Again me or the independent neurologist, who
Speaker 1: do I believe can handle the situation better. But the
Speaker 1: LS lied to us before, Dan, they deceived us. When before?
Speaker 1: But when when was the last time that we feel
Speaker 1: like the NFL deceived us when it came to this.
Speaker 1: Was it two years ago or was it fifteen years ago?
Speaker 1: Twenty years ago? Right? Well, they did have a settlement
Speaker 1: where they paid out a billion dollars and sure, but
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I think because I had
Speaker 1: that this kind of this new era mindset of it,
Speaker 1: of man the lawsuits of the past, there's no and
Speaker 1: I even said on get up, like, we're past the
Speaker 1: point of players being like no, no, no, I'm good.
Speaker 1: You know you're no longer allowed to do that because
Speaker 1: if you're twenty four and you took a hit like
Speaker 1: Tah and you're trying to stay with the Lions and play,
Speaker 1: there's no shot. Correct. Yes, you're gonna lie, correct, But
Speaker 1: the grown up has to assess that and say he's
Speaker 1: got he's in trouble, even if it's a back injury,
Speaker 1: and I can't put him back in totally. And that's
Speaker 1: where you know, like, absolutely I would have lied about that, um,
Speaker 1: and the grown up, but I had given the assumption
Speaker 1: that they're grown up would handle it the right the
Speaker 1: right way, at at least in their in their non
Speaker 1: biased medical profession. Um. Obviously, it certainly feels like that
Speaker 1: was something with his head on that Sunday and then
Speaker 1: the Thursday night happens. The most interesting part about it
Speaker 1: now for me is because everyone's like, well, even if
Speaker 1: they're wobbly, they got to get out of the game
Speaker 1: and they shouldn't be allowed in the game. And my
Speaker 1: pushback is this, Dan like, because I think that's very
Speaker 1: easy for all of us to sit here and say,
Speaker 1: what happens if that's the AFC Tiger. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like Homes when Mahomes got hurt a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago and it was his knee. Now, I can't take
Speaker 1: him out if it's his knee, right, right, So what
Speaker 1: happens if, like, what happens if I take this massive
Speaker 1: shot as a quarterback and I get hit to the
Speaker 1: ground and really it's I think I might have just
Speaker 1: broke a rib or something like that. And my first
Speaker 1: thing is like, oh my gosh, that you know, and
Speaker 1: then well grabs his head. It's just I don't believe
Speaker 1: that there's this perfect black and white answer for it.
Speaker 1: Air on the side of caution, for sure, But again
Speaker 1: there's this also very real reality of when the stakes
Speaker 1: are at the absolute highest, do we still feel that
Speaker 1: same way about those situations? I know, I think it's fair.
Speaker 1: In the final thirty seconds watching Green Bay and Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay feels like this is who Green Bay is going
Speaker 1: to be this season. Tampa Bay can still be better.
Speaker 1: You know, when they get everybody back or get healthier.
Speaker 1: Um so higher ceiling Green Bay or Tampa Bay. I say,
Speaker 1: Green Bay is the second most explosive offense in the
Speaker 1: NFL right now, and they got rookie receivers having a
Speaker 1: big impact. Those kids are only gonna get better. I
Speaker 1: think it's hard for me to sit here and believe
Speaker 1: that Tampa is going to get healthier. That's one of
Speaker 1: the hardest things in the elite that usually get less
Speaker 1: healthy as the season goes. Still really good, but I'm
Speaker 1: really high on Green Bay right now for the first month.
Speaker 1: We love having you on every time Yukon wins Yukon
Speaker 1: football and I see it, Yeah, it looks like you
Speaker 1: did you just buy that. It looks like it's got
Speaker 1: a tag. Nobody dominates Fresno State like you guys do. Hey,
Speaker 1: they can't come cross count. Just get given a win.
Speaker 1: Great to talk to you. Thanks, welcome man. That's Dan
Speaker 1: Orlovsky of the mother Ship. You can see him every
Speaker 1: afternoon at four Eastern NFL Live. Marcus Spears me to come,
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark and Laura Ruttledge there, let's take a break here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk cheating coming up here. I got to
Speaker 1: find out how you cheat and chess. We already know
Speaker 1: that there's some guys who are They could face felony
Speaker 1: charges for cheating and a fishing competition. So we'll get
Speaker 1: phone calls coming up right after this. All right, I
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Speaker 1: top of the hour, a phishing controversy, a lot of
Speaker 1: money at stake, and two of the contestants could end
Speaker 1: up going to jail for it fell any charges, So
Speaker 1: we'll have that coming up. Jeff in Atlanta leads us off. Hi, Jeff,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey? Dan? You were talking
Speaker 1: about Bobby Knights, and yeah, you know, he and Parcels
Speaker 1: were good friends, I think, going back to Army. But
Speaker 1: Costas interviewed him on his later show years ago and
Speaker 1: asked him about his relationship with sporters and said, you know, look,
Speaker 1: you could kind of take give some of these standard
Speaker 1: answers and then take the guys aside you really want
Speaker 1: to talk to, and he said something along the lines
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, I have that thought every once in
Speaker 1: a while, but I really want some of these guys
Speaker 1: to know I think they're the dumbist soobs or whatever,
Speaker 1: something along those lines. And you know, he's a very
Speaker 1: smart guy. Obviously that Bob Costas could probably tell you
Speaker 1: more about those conversations you had, but it was a
Speaker 1: great point. And thank you for bringing up the talked
Speaker 1: talk about it drives me crazy. Thank you, Jeff. My
Speaker 1: relationship with Bob Knight changed only because of j Billis,
Speaker 1: because when I was doing Sports Center, I remember there
Speaker 1: was a moment when Bob Knight grabs his son and
Speaker 1: Keith Overman was working with me and Keith off the
Speaker 1: cuff goes oh at home with the Knight family, and
Speaker 1: Bob Knight was livid. He was not going to do
Speaker 1: anything with the ESPN, hated the people on Sports Center.
Speaker 1: And then I don't know how many years later, how
Speaker 1: much time separated, but Jay Billis was talking to Coach Knight,
Speaker 1: and Coach Knight said, any of those guys on Sports
Speaker 1: Center that you like, that you respect, maybe is what
Speaker 1: it was basketball wise, and Billis goes, well, you know
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick, he played the game. He knows the game.
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, tell him to give me a call.
Speaker 1: Billis comes back to ESPN. He goes, hey, Bob Knight
Speaker 1: wants you to call him. I go what did I
Speaker 1: do now? He goes, no, no, he wants to talk
Speaker 1: to you. I said, Jay, you know I don't want
Speaker 1: to get blindsider. He goes, no, no no, no, he wants
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Yeah. I told him. You know,
Speaker 1: you know coach Donna her Or had Dayton, and you know,
Speaker 1: I gave him all the background. So I called coach
Speaker 1: Knight and could not have been nicer. And then I said,
Speaker 1: I'd love to have you on my radio show. Had
Speaker 1: him on our radio show, and we surprised him with
Speaker 1: Boshem Beckler, who was still still a lod This was
Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan Weekend, and he loved Boschem Beckler, even
Speaker 1: though Bob Knight went to Ohio State loved Bow and
Speaker 1: we surprised him with Boschem Beckler. They I just let
Speaker 1: him talk. He called back and said it's one of
Speaker 1: the nicest things anybody's ever done. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: call back anytime. So it changed only because Bill has said, Hey,
Speaker 1: this guy knows basketball. But if not Bob Knight, I
Speaker 1: never would have had any kind of relationship with him.
Speaker 1: And I hope he's doing well. You know, maybe just fishing,
Speaker 1: but I hope he's doing well. Jerry and Cincinnati, Hi, Jerry,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey? Dan? Thanks taking on
Speaker 1: a call. Sure, So, I'm not sure if another caller
Speaker 1: mentioned this after Albert coolholsted his seven hundredth home run,
Speaker 1: but I came across a mind boggling stat that it
Speaker 1: takes Albert around twenty six seconds to jog around the
Speaker 1: bases after hitting a home run, which means that Albert
Speaker 1: has spent over five hours of his life just jogging
Speaker 1: around the bases after hitting a home run. That's a
Speaker 1: great number, That's that's a great call. Yeah, spent five
Speaker 1: hours of your life running the bases with home runs.
Speaker 1: That's great. Gibbs in Virginia, beach, Gibbs's back, Hi, Gibbs,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Hey? Dano, how's it going? Quick?
Speaker 1: Quick shout out to James in Virginia. I didn't know
Speaker 1: he was a fellow seven five seven guys, so hope
Speaker 1: to get up with him. Sometime, but you mentioned the
Speaker 1: Liberty catch. I was on the sideline on Saturday for that.
Speaker 1: I actually it was such an incredible catch. I thought
Speaker 1: the guy with batting it down. But you know, I
Speaker 1: think that's the catch of the year in college football
Speaker 1: so far. The reason for my call, Dan was you
Speaker 1: talked about getting dressed down in an interview room. I
Speaker 1: was a young in a different way before I became
Speaker 1: not exactly Atticus Finch in an interview room for the
Speaker 1: ACC tip off in Charlotte, North Carolina. I had just
Speaker 1: got to interview coach k Roy Williams and in walks
Speaker 1: Leonard Hamilton, and I think I have the perfect question
Speaker 1: for him about why he is from North Carolina and
Speaker 1: can't get any people down to Florida State. And he
Speaker 1: undresses me in front of thirty media members and I
Speaker 1: just sit there and sink in my seat and have
Speaker 1: nothing to say to the man. Most interesting moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's humbling. It is humbling. But if you get to
Speaker 1: a level, thank you, Gibbs, where the coach will respect you,
Speaker 1: and you know it took me a while to get
Speaker 1: there with Bob Knight and Nick Saban, that they'll let
Speaker 1: me be an equal to them during the interview, but
Speaker 1: it takes a long time to get there. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you ever get there with Greg Popovich unless
Speaker 1: you're just friends with him. Bill Parcels I was never
Speaker 1: friends with him, but you know they're not going to
Speaker 1: let you get to that level. But when you do
Speaker 1: then I mean, I asked coach Saban about D's nuts.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had to get to a certain level
Speaker 1: where I could have some fun with him and he
Speaker 1: was willing to engage with me. Eric in California, Hi, Eric,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? He dan, Thanks for taking
Speaker 1: my call. Appreciate it. Sure, I just listened to you
Speaker 1: with your with the cheating issue and talking about the
Speaker 1: chess that the chess master and all those accusations. I
Speaker 1: love teaching my kids chess and playing with them, and
Speaker 1: so I've read the articles about it, and I guess
Speaker 1: it instead of it being some some random person in
Speaker 1: another room sending signals to the to the chess master
Speaker 1: giving him hints, I think what's going on. Is it
Speaker 1: the more technological accusation where they're a device of some
Speaker 1: sort hooked up to a computer program. Who's who's sending
Speaker 1: signals in so young Hans is being accused of being
Speaker 1: hooked up to a computer and uh and and having
Speaker 1: some program giving him answers. But the funny part of
Speaker 1: it is, uh, he's being accused of not having something
Speaker 1: vibrate on his body, but in his body they're putting
Speaker 1: more of an in gentl. I mean, that's that's the
Speaker 1: rumor here. But I wondered, if somebody is smart enough
Speaker 1: to guide somebody to beat the greatest chess player of
Speaker 1: all time, then how come that guy can't sit in
Speaker 1: the chair and beat Magnus Carlson. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is one of those that playing the percentages,
Speaker 1: and maybe it took up to a computer to say
Speaker 1: what are the percentages? Like if I make this move
Speaker 1: or make this move? I guess yeah, Poling. So we're
Speaker 1: trying to get ahold of a chess expert on this story.
Speaker 1: But like I looked up the evolution of cheating and chess,
Speaker 1: and in the old days before cell phones, you would
Speaker 1: actually have some type of spy. Try to find out
Speaker 1: what type of strategy they, you know, like the Sandomeer strategy.
Speaker 1: They have different strategies different chess masters use. And if
Speaker 1: you can find out what they're gonna use before the
Speaker 1: chess match starts, you would have a big advantage. Once
Speaker 1: cell phones started, it started with texts or calling people
Speaker 1: outside the building for advice. In the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 1: there's some stories about guys taking bathroom breaks and there'd
Speaker 1: be a hidden cell phone in the bathroom and you
Speaker 1: call us and say, here's where we are, what should
Speaker 1: my next four moves be? And that was where computers
Speaker 1: started coming in, and then with like Apple watches and
Speaker 1: things like that, you would have someone on the other
Speaker 1: end outside the building looking at the board and going
Speaker 1: to a chess website and saying exactly that. Like playing poker,
Speaker 1: there's odds. If you move this piece, you have a
Speaker 1: four percent chance of winning. You move this piece, you
Speaker 1: have an eight percent chance of winning, and you signal
Speaker 1: it back to the person in the chair playing board chess.
Speaker 1: That's Hot's evolved. Although this guy, Hans gruber U he
Speaker 1: said that he'll play naked that if we need to.
Speaker 1: I've seen him and that's not gonna make me tune in. Yeah, see,
Speaker 1: I think our less caller plus disproved that that didn't
Speaker 1: He can still be cheating. Yeah, naked Hans Nieman, Hans
Speaker 1: shoot the glass. Yes, Hans Nieman. He's a chess master.
Speaker 1: He admitted that he had cheated twice an online chess
Speaker 1: matches as a teenager, like but like seven eight years ago.
Speaker 1: But this is board chess where you're in person with
Speaker 1: the person, according to sources online chess matches. I know, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a chance if he plays chess naked.
Speaker 1: Could he eventually be a porn star? That's possible. That's
Speaker 1: not bad, all right, Yeah, that's not bad. That's a solid.
Speaker 1: I know they have that TV show porn stars playing
Speaker 1: off the thing. No, I got it. You're rally. That's
Speaker 1: a that's a like a single in the gap and
Speaker 1: you stretched it and do it? Didn't like the bishop
Speaker 1: thing or too many chest And he's yeah, that didn't
Speaker 1: really gonna didn't go anywhere. You're able to beat the
Speaker 1: bishop with that joke. Oh, I'm sorry, Deck is going
Speaker 1: on here. That's todd stuff. That's for another conversation. Uh,
Speaker 1: Tom and North Carolina, Hi Tom, Good morning, Dan, Good
Speaker 1: morning Tom. Yeah. I think whenever would you rather have
Speaker 1: um in an interview? Would you rather have somebody at
Speaker 1: not as forthcoming or as far as somebody giving you
Speaker 1: the answers, because it seems like people like Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, you know, they're not as forthcoming. It seems
Speaker 1: like the reporters, you know, keep pushing and pushing and thinking,
Speaker 1: get something big. You know, maybe it's a bigger story.
Speaker 1: And um yeah the shot that Marvin took at the
Speaker 1: North Carolina uniform yesterday, Yeah, Marvin the Yukon football Twitter
Speaker 1: for Dan or Lakey. Yeah yeah, Tom got you take that, Marv.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't getting on their playing ability. I wasn't
Speaker 1: getting on the uniforms. Just they're playing ability. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we love the uniforms. It's just they always have a
Speaker 1: ton of talent. Top five. They're gonna go seven and
Speaker 1: six and they're gonna have a top five NFL draft, Yes, draft, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. Um yeah they It feels like North Carolina
Speaker 1: always has one or two players and you go, wow,
Speaker 1: why aren't they better? Right, that's usually my reaction. Um,
Speaker 1: we'll get two more phone calls coming up. Update the
Speaker 1: poll result. Seaton, I haven't checked in with you in
Speaker 1: a while. I to who would you bet on going
Speaker 1: further this season? Rams or the forty nine ers If
Speaker 1: you want to guess, I'm gonna guess. People recency bias
Speaker 1: will say the forty no hardcore recency bias sixty. All right,
Speaker 1: if you're Odell Beckham junior the third when you get healthy,
Speaker 1: who do you sign with? Do you stay with the Rams?
Speaker 1: How about Cowboys? Green Bay? Green Bay? Well, they missed
Speaker 1: out the last time when they should have signed him,
Speaker 1: and then he went to the Rams. How about Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs just throwing them Buccaneers Chargers standing as feel
Speaker 1: like it would have been better a year or two ago? Yeah, yeah, okay, Rams?
Speaker 1: Oh you think Rams? Well, he went and visited Sterling Shepherd,
Speaker 1: the Giants wide receiver got hurt, and people thought, oh,
Speaker 1: is this assigning wants to come back and play for
Speaker 1: the Giants. I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think he likes Sterling Shepherd and he's a friend,
Speaker 1: but you know, not that good a friend that I'm
Speaker 1: willing to come back and play for the Jam If
Speaker 1: you go, all right, what quarterback do I want to
Speaker 1: play for? Play with? Justin Herbert, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Danny Dimes. I'm probably not going to come
Speaker 1: back play for the Jets. Probably not all right. Well,
Speaker 1: take a break. More phone calls coming up right after
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Speaker 1: was a moment last night in the game where a
Speaker 1: streaker came on the field. I don't know what constitutes
Speaker 1: a streaker nudity, yeah, and he was clothed when he
Speaker 1: ran onto the field and he had a smoke. Can
Speaker 1: I guess I thought it was a gender reveal at
Speaker 1: first when I saw the pink smoke. I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: I did, okay. I I thought, all right, that's elaborate.
Speaker 1: Timmy and Sheila are having a girl. Hey and Bobby
Speaker 1: Wagner sprook like colarbone? Yeah, yeah, you're both gonna be
Speaker 1: in the hospital. I'm there for a broken collar bone
Speaker 1: and you're having a baby. But I did think it
Speaker 1: was a gender reveal at first, where this guy was
Speaker 1: running across the field and then Bobby Wagner hit him,
Speaker 1: planted him, and then it was it. That was it,
Speaker 1: It was done. I don't know what was on his shirt.
Speaker 1: He had some message on there, and he made a
Speaker 1: wrong turn because he had open he had open turf
Speaker 1: in front of him. If he just kept going left,
Speaker 1: and then he came back and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: your head's got to be on a swivel and he
Speaker 1: didn't think that anybody was coming off the Rams sidelines
Speaker 1: and whammo, he's down. Wasn't exactly a strong runner to
Speaker 1: begin with though, Yeah, it was a little Will Farrell
Speaker 1: and old school kind of running. And then he got
Speaker 1: really covering a lot of distance. No, he was not,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I did I thought it was a gender
Speaker 1: revealed all right, that's that's really Hey, I'll let you
Speaker 1: guys know what we're having tune in at this time
Speaker 1: during the game, and then all of a sudden, he's
Speaker 1: out there running across the field like he's really doing
Speaker 1: they're having a girl. Oh my gosh, you just got hit. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's weird because I don't like when people run on
Speaker 1: the field, but I really love when players declete the
Speaker 1: guy who runs on the field. Enjoy that part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would have been targeting, though, I think Todd said
Speaker 1: earlier that would have been a targeting. Its helmet, crown
Speaker 1: on the helmet, right to the jaw. That is, he's
Speaker 1: not defenseless. Let's think he's an he's a runner at
Speaker 1: that point. That is true. Yeah, and he had a
Speaker 1: can with him. You know, I don't know if that
Speaker 1: was a weapon, a cannon. Whooping. I bet that hurt.
Speaker 1: That's one of those that today this morning. Oh it
Speaker 1: really hurts. It's almost like you could see like where
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm running, I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm
Speaker 1: on TV. Uh. Jerry Jones, by the way, I don't
Speaker 1: know when Jerry did it had a press conference, but
Speaker 1: he normally on Tuesday, doesn't he do his radio show
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. But I think he's so excited about Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush that he wanted to let the media know about
Speaker 1: his current starting quarterback. I just can't say enough about
Speaker 1: how his play of what it possibly has done for
Speaker 1: this team this season. Then to give us a chance
Speaker 1: to sit here after these last three ball games, it
Speaker 1: would maybe have the opportunity we've got for the rest
Speaker 1: of the year. It's amazing and it's far more than
Speaker 1: I could have ever expected. Yeah, maybe people on your
Speaker 1: staff could have told you what you had. Isn't that
Speaker 1: their job to let you know? Hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: this guy, Cooper Rush is unbelievable. That's why everybody, I think,
Speaker 1: thought Dack's out. Cowboys season is over. But they've shown
Speaker 1: that they're far more than just Dak Prescott. The defense
Speaker 1: has been really good. You know, just a question of
Speaker 1: Dak comes back. Do they stay with this style or
Speaker 1: do they go, you know what, we gotta get Dak cooking.
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta throw the ball. You know. See
Speaker 1: that's the danger of all to this. You know exactly
Speaker 1: what you can get out of Cooper Rush. He knows
Speaker 1: exactly what you want. He's not getting paid fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars forty five million dollars a year where you have
Speaker 1: to validate this or you think you have to validate this.
Speaker 1: That's what I think is going to be interesting. Here
Speaker 1: does Dak come back and we're gonna start to air
Speaker 1: it out now more because it feels like that. And
Speaker 1: as I've said the last two games, Cooper Rush has
Speaker 1: given you just enough. Don't make mistakes, throw a touchdown pass.
Speaker 1: If Dak gets gives those numbers to us, we're gonna go,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with dad thumb still bothering him? Hey? He
Speaker 1: was you know, fourteen for twenty one for two hundred
Speaker 1: and eight yards touchdown. Yeah. More for context, Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: met with the media after the game. You know, he
Speaker 1: just gets in the hallway or whatever, and so there's
Speaker 1: a bunch of cameras around him. So that's what it was.
Speaker 1: Oh so this is this was from Monday or Sunday,
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon. Oh okay, there fair enough. Um let me see.
Speaker 1: Here is Mike McDaniel. He's the Dolphins head coach, and
Speaker 1: Miami is standing by their concussion protocol with TWA when
Speaker 1: you're talking about matters of of the brain, and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna ever pretend to be a foremost expert on it.
Speaker 1: As long as the protocols are derived with the proper spirit,
Speaker 1: if it helps players and keeps them safe, the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins will be all for it, all right. Two is
Speaker 1: not going to play in week five. He talked about
Speaker 1: TWA not playing this weekend. It's too early to give
Speaker 1: a definite timeline. I can comfortably say that he will
Speaker 1: be out for this game against the Jets, but anything
Speaker 1: beyond that or just focused on making sure he's optimal
Speaker 1: health and then crossing that bridge. So it's a little
Speaker 1: early for definitive timelines. Beyond that. I feel like I
Speaker 1: went to high school with about twenty five guys who
Speaker 1: sound like Mike McDaniel. Pick me up, I'll bring gas money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can you get a beer? Do you know anybody could
Speaker 1: get some beer or something that'd be great? Late nineties
Speaker 1: alt rock man, the Mars of Alta straight out of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does he help? The more he speaks, is he
Speaker 1: helping the situation? Well? When he said he only thank
Speaker 1: god he only had a concussion. I went, and that's
Speaker 1: a stupid comment. You're kind of waiting like almost like
Speaker 1: he's like a gaff machine at this point, like you're
Speaker 1: just waiting to hear. Yeah, you know, there's there's a
Speaker 1: strategy when you talk to the media. What you can say,
Speaker 1: how you can say, what should you say? Not say?
Speaker 1: But when you say he only had a concussion, a
Speaker 1: concussion is a serious injury. It's your brain. Yeah, Paul
Speaker 1: I looked up his background in the recent I didn't
Speaker 1: watch a bottom except he bounced around the league. He
Speaker 1: went to Yale, he played wide receiver. He was a
Speaker 1: backup at Yale. She's an educated guy, and he did
Speaker 1: play the game. Some people thought like, oh, how did
Speaker 1: this guy get the job? He clearly never played football
Speaker 1: before because he looks like a small, whispy guy. But
Speaker 1: he did play the game. Yeah, we get caught up
Speaker 1: in you know, if you didn't play the game, therefore
Speaker 1: you can't ask a question to a coach like you
Speaker 1: didn't play, like Kurk kurb Street, Well, you can't do
Speaker 1: an NFL game you didn't play, Yeah, you can. He
Speaker 1: did all these college games where you got to see
Speaker 1: the players before they got to the NFL, just a
Speaker 1: different approach to it. Uh, let me see Tip in
Speaker 1: Indiana High Tip. What's on your mind today? Hey guys,
Speaker 1: hope you all are well today. Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1: Sure I have. I want to preface the question. I
Speaker 1: have a two far question, and I wanted to preface
Speaker 1: it by saying, I think you all are a great show.
Speaker 1: Listen to you every day and appreciate what you all do.
Speaker 1: My question is this. You all been speaking about the
Speaker 1: leavings today, and I tend to hear you all talking
Speaker 1: about wanting answers and that sort of thing. So my
Speaker 1: two part question is this one because I hear you
Speaker 1: all the time talk about when you're doing interviews with someone,
Speaker 1: you want to ask the tough questions, and I can
Speaker 1: respect that. I appreciate that, so because you want to answer.
Speaker 1: But my two part questions one, how does the media
Speaker 1: play the role in why does the media think that
Speaker 1: they're owed something from anyone? And then too, what responsibility
Speaker 1: does the media play in reporting the facts, the whole
Speaker 1: truth and nothing but the truth when they report a story,
Speaker 1: because it's how portrays a player or a coach to
Speaker 1: the public. Well, I just try to give you the
Speaker 1: information I have. I try to be fair about this.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's certain things that you can't reveal legally.
Speaker 1: There's things that are told to you hearsay, there are
Speaker 1: things that are told you off the record. But when
Speaker 1: I give you my opinion or I'm asking questions, I'm
Speaker 1: asking questions to questions that I think the audience once
Speaker 1: answers too. If you have somebody on and they say, well,
Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about that, then I've told
Speaker 1: Fritzie didn't tell them we're not going to have them on.
Speaker 1: But I'm not here to have an agenda. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to bait you. And it's not a bait and
Speaker 1: switch or a gotcha. I've never I don't do that.
Speaker 1: You don't do it this long. If your approaches that way.
Speaker 1: You have to ask a question and you have to
Speaker 1: be fair. And there are times when somebody will say, look,
Speaker 1: you can ask one question on that topic, and I
Speaker 1: say tell them, I may ask one, I may ask two,
Speaker 1: I may ask three, depending on what their answer is.
Speaker 1: But you gotta be fair. I don't want you the
Speaker 1: audience to go not even asking the question. Now, can
Speaker 1: I ask it in a professional manner? Is and I
Speaker 1: think that's the approach that I've tried to have. Got
Speaker 1: a tough question, it's coming now. The question is how
Speaker 1: do I ask it? More questions, more comments, more phone
Speaker 1: calls coming up. Final Hour is going to be about cheating,
Speaker 1: cheating at fishing, cheating at chess. Maybe something else will
Speaker 1: throw in there as well. Final Hour on the way,
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick, show one more right, and we close out
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