WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Jerry Jones on Cooper Rush, Dan Orlovsky 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:07.160 Sports Radio Hour two on this Tuesday, we'll check in 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.600 with Dan Orlovsky for the Mothership and then in the 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:15.120 final hour, the fishing controversy that is sweeping the nation 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:21.560 competitive fishing competition where there were hundreds of thousands of 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:26.440 dollars at stake. Yes, so it's a series of events 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:29.240 each weekend in different parts of the state of Ohio, 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.720 I believe, and apparently the winners there were two guys. 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:38.360 They were putting weights in the fish after they caught them, 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.120 so when they were weighed, they weighed more. Therefore they 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:46.760 ended up winning the competition. There could be felony charges 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:51.240 involved in this, that's how serious this is. But we'll 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:55.400 talk to a writer for the Toledo Blade who's covering 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.560 this and the competitive Yeah, I was wondering about that. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:04.520 With a chess or poker, you know, there's money involved. 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:08.360 Whenever there's money, there's the temptation to cheat or bend 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.760 the rules, whatever it might be. But you have this 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:16.000 chess master, what is Magnus Carlson something like that, and 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.920 he's supposed to be the best chess player of all time, 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:24.640 but he lost recently to a really young competitor, and 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.560 he knew right away that in his mind he was 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.840 getting help this other chess player. Now, did he have 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.399 something on his body that vibrated to let him know, 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.160 make that move? Don't make that move. They then played 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:42.160 again before I think his competitor made one move, be 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.960 a grand champion grand master decided I'm not going to 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:49.760 play that. He felt that there was something going on there. Yeah, point, yeah, 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.600 it's Magnus Carlson, and the youngster is a ninth year 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:58.080 old Hans and Neiman. I guess smoke Carlson, and Carlson's 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.520 watching him and was concerned how easy he was doing it. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.640 And there there's a lot of different accusations but no 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.560 specific um how he may have done it, like a 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.919 signaling of a vibrating thing on your body, yes, Studd. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:12.679 And they think he got called for too many chess 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.360 pieces on the field. He threw an extra bishop in 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.000 there somehow, which I don't know how he got away 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:22.480 with that. That wasn't good? Was it offensive? Okay? Hey marv, 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:27.799 Oh hey guys, it's top fishing for laughs. Yes me, 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.120 rookie move. I was wondering when the guy ran on 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:35.040 the field of oh rook, okay, yeah, I'm not either, 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.720 And and maybe somebody could help us. Who's a chest 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:44.840 expert of If if I can give you, If I 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.520 can give you tips on how to beat the greatest 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.919 chess player in the world, why can't I then sit 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.280 down against the greatest chess player in the world beat him. 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.239 We'll look into that. Let me bring in Dan Orlomski. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.920 It's a busy man. Dan. You can catch him on 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:04.359 NFL Live weekdays at four Eastern Marcus Spears, Metakimes, Ryan Clark, 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.799 Laura Rutledge, and of course Monday Night Football as well. Dan, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.600 thanks for joining us here. If I plays an honor, 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.720 if I said, who's going further further? This year? The 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:23.160 Rams are the Niners. Does recency bias play a role? No, 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.760 because the better of those teams in this moment is 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:33.160 San Francisco. The team that is more capable of making 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.960 a deeper run is the Rams. You know everyone's going 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.040 to talk about last night rightfully so. In the dominant 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:45.720 performance by San Francisco defensively, the Rams were down four 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.960 of their top six offensive linemen, I would hope San 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.680 Francisco would dominate the line of scrimmage. Given that they're 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.400 one of the best defenses in the NFL, the Rams 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.480 do have some issues up front, and they've got to 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.760 get healthy and better there. There's a reason why they 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.240 they play under centers so much right now and try 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.120 to run the ball and play actually because they're trying 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.000 to protect their offensive line. Do I think that Odell 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.240 Beckham is coming to the Los Angeles Rams at some 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.200 point this year? I do that is needed right now. 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.200 Alan Robinson cannot get open, you know, so you'll hear 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.560 everybody today. My boy Marcus Spears is saying it. They 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.039 got to throw to someone else other than Cooper cup. Well, 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.479 you go play quarterback and do it. You know that 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.720 sounds good, But when you got two seconds to get 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.039 the ball in your hands, you're gonna go to the 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.280 guy that you feel is proving I can get open. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.479 So they gotta get healthy up front. They gotta get 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:39.720 Odell back because those are two needed pieces. San Francisco. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.520 No one has questioned can they be good? The thing 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.159 with Trey was man, can Tray make them even better? 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:52.360 Can he do things offensively that Jimmy cannot? So good 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.880 football team, one of the defenses in the NFL. I 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.920 would not want to play or coach against right now 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:03.240 is San Francisco. But the difference in the quarterbacking is 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:07.080 very real, and the Rams can play in a couple 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.840 of different styles. San Francisco has to play in one 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:14.920 very specific one. I thought San Francisco had the makeup 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.120 to be a better team because it felt like it 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.600 was a more balanced team. They run the football, good 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.880 offensive line, you got a couple of playmakers Kittle and Deebo, 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.960 And it really comes down to Jimmy G. Can Jimmy 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.240 G manage a game? Stafford throws a lot of picks, 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.479 and you know you're gonna start forcing You know what, 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.520 did Cooper cup have eighteen targets? He had fourteen catches, 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.160 but really nothing that was dangerous there. The running game 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.440 was not there because of the offensive line. But I 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.800 just wonder about the offense with the Rams more than 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:51.719 I do the Niners offense, which sounds crazy. Yeah that's fair. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.600 I don't have necessarily the wonders of the Rams right now. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:57.840 The Rams, and I've just kind of said this about 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.559 a couple of teams there, they don't have the people 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.320 to be who they are right now. So when that happens, 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.120 You're okay, who can we be this week? You know? 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.320 And I think that Sean is trying to figure out 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.320 all right this week because he's sitting down. We got 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.479 to play San Francisco forty nine ers and I got 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.640 three backup offensive linemen and what are it always starts? 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.480 Can you block? How can you block them? All? Right? 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.200 So what can we be this week? And until they 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.000 get healthy upfront? This is very similar to the thoughts 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.280 onlike Tampa Bay as well. Until they get really healthy, 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.040 it's very difficult to say who they can be now. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.520 If they don't get healthy, Dan, they got no shot. 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.640 That's a real thing. But I don't believe that their 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.600 offensive line is going to be out for the length 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:44.760 of the season. Do they win with Garoppolo or is 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:50.159 he with Okay, they don't win because of Jimmy Okay, yeah, 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.400 they win with I know that. We love to say, 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.320 you know, all all he does is win Like that 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.560 Debo catch. I mean, really, that's it. The pass was 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.880 not good and Deebo made everybody miss. That could have 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.599 been a pick six there. But there's also something to 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.479 be said for winning with I mean, there's there's there's 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.480 five or six guys that you win because of, and 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.040 then there is another, you know, eight to ten that 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.960 you win with. So there is something to be said 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:18.960 for we win a lot of games with this guy. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.720 That doesn't mean that if he's out, we will win 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.840 a lot of games with just anybody else. But the 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.280 San Francisco forty nine would win a lot of games 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.200 with Kirk Cousins. They would win a lot of games 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:36.440 with um. I'm trying to think like another relatively solid 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.200 quarterback that you sit there and Derek Carr. That win 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.560 a lot of games with Derek Carr. So it's not 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:45.720 like Jimmy, he's a nobody, But Kyle's proven in his 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.640 track record he wins a lot of games with good quarterbacks. 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:52.640 We're talking to Dan Orlovsky of the mother Ship septem VP. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:57.200 I've coined that, trademarked it. Who is your septem VP 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:03.240 in the NFL? Lamar are Lamar Jackson. You know, candidly, 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.760 he was my pick in the preseason. You know, up 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.160 until last week's game, in a little bit of the 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:12.920 second half fall off. He was the number one thro 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.120 passing quarterback in the NFL. He was a top five rusher, 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.480 He had counted for ninety percent of their offense. It 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.840 was ridiculous. Credit Josh Allen and Buffalo for their comeback, 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.320 but what Lamar is doing and being asked to do 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:29.560 is still tremendous. He's covering up for a defense that's 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.640 not very good. He's covering up for a run game 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:36.120 right now that's not great. In Baltimore, I would say, 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.319 you know me, I can't always just give you one. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.760 Patrick is absolutely in that conversation. You know. The way 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:47.040 that Patrick right now is playing is you know, it's 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.319 as good as he's played in his MVP year. And 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.920 the stuff that he is capable of doing now with 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.560 their offensive line is special. And I was thinking about 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.920 this question. I like the third person I would put 0:08:59.920 --> 0:09:04.760 in there is Micah Parsons. I really would. Dallas's defense 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.920 is it's the most I set this on Get up yesterday. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.000 Dallas has the most reliable play in all of football. 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.439 And that is a passing down situation. If you are 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:19.360 in an obvious pass situation, and because of Micah, you 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.439 I honestly you have no shot. You have no shot 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:27.240 against that defense. So those three and now you know 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.400 Cooper Rush is your quarterback, they'll probably try to trade 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.679 Dak Prescott, right, he's gonna be Yeah, that's you know what. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.719 Let's instead of going with the guy that we gave 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.280 one hundred and forty million dollars to, Let's go with 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.440 the guy that wasn't even on our active roster five 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.679 days before Game one. Let's do that. But I did 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.199 point this out the last two weeks. If Dak put 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.400 up the numbers that Cooper Rush did, we'd go. Yeah, 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.120 Dak didn't have a great game, I mean kind of, 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.560 but estra and he had one touchdown pass and through 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.520 for two hundred and seven yards or something. Cooper Rush, 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.760 We're like, damn, get ready for Canton. Man. This guy's 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:08.040 unbelievable expectation breeds disappointment. Yeah, I mean, that's the expectations 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:09.840 where I mean, I was one of those people when 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.520 Dak went down. I was, your season's done if you 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.040 don't get a quarterback, you know, And I honestly felt 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.880 that way because Cooper Rush five years in, he was 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.800 on practice squad and no one's claiming, you know, you're 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.200 sitting there. This offensive line's not gonna be good. Michael 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.400 Michael Gallop won't be back. Cities not proven and no. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.720 I kind of think one of the things that's interesting 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.640 about Dallas is everybody has to learn from this situation 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.280 in Dallas, not just Dak. Everyone And there's a difference 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:41.520 between identity and philosophy. You know, for Dallas, you your 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.760 philosophy should not change. You know, when Dak comes back, 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.960 our philosophy should be, well, we're more than Dak Prescott. 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.960 Our offensive line can be good in the run game 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.040 and we don't have to try to. Hey, we gotta 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.680 be the number one scoring offense in the NFL. Our 0:10:55.720 --> 0:11:00.560 identity can be philosophically that, Hey, as long as our 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.320 defense isn't put in really bad situations, we're not going 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.839 to give games away. And you know, during the regular season, 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.959 that's a really good way to build yourself up for 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:13.320 the playoffs. I've been on my soapbox talking about the 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.960 two a situation, wanting to know, even if it's not 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.360 a concussion, if you get up and you stumble like 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.160 that a couple of times, you have to be held up. 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.120 Just the eye test said, you shouldn't be back in 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.760 a football game. You just you shouldn't be. And I 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.680 use the analogy that a former quarterback gave me. If 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.360 I was at a party at your house and I 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.079 got up and I did that would you let me 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.560 drive home? And the answer is no, you would done right, 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.600 But they're sticking with that was a back injury, and 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.160 then this was a concussion, and now he's not playing 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.320 this week, so where do you stand with And then 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:50.280 they fire the independent neurologist here like somebody had to 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.200 pay a price. So the media people like me would 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.520 go away like, hey, we took care of it, no problem. 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:59.520 And then Cameron Brad has a concussion on Sunday night. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.600 Now he said it was a shoulder. He goes back 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:08.040 into the game. Yeah, like I think, you know, obviously, 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.480 this has been a really good, not good conversation. It's 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.080 been a really interesting one. I was on TV the 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.160 day after the TOI stuff, so I saw the tour 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.000 of play and goes down and I've I've had that 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.679 before personally, I've watched my teammates do and you go, yep, 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:25.880 concussion and then it comes out well in the broadcast back. 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.480 I don't know if it's not a back injury or not, 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:34.000 Like my natural history tells me that looks like a 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.640 head thing. But I've I also have seen people with 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.560 debilitating back issues, like go down like that. You know, 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.880 so I went to school for seventeen years for me 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:48.240 to graduate college, I don't know. So, yeahbody grabbed his head, sure, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.960 but but I like, again, my natural thought was, Okay, 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.080 that's concussion. But then when the report comes out back, 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:58.920 I'm at. I was at the point Dan where I 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.560 was like, you know what, there is been such a 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.080 conversation around head injuries in football for ten plus years now, 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.440 and the NFL has done such a good job of 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.640 putting this at the forefront that I have no reason 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.199 not to trust that situation, Like, I have no reason 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.840 to sit there and go absolutely not the Dolphins are lying, 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.160 or that independent neurologist, there's no way that they know 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:23.400 what they're doing. Again me or the independent neurologist, who 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.280 do I believe can handle the situation better. But the 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:30.520 LS lied to us before, Dan, they deceived us. When before? 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.160 But when when was the last time that we feel 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.520 like the NFL deceived us when it came to this. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.080 Was it two years ago or was it fifteen years ago? 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.000 Twenty years ago? Right? Well, they did have a settlement 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.760 where they paid out a billion dollars and sure, but 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.120 you know what I'm saying. I think because I had 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.040 that this kind of this new era mindset of it, 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.240 of man the lawsuits of the past, there's no and 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.120 I even said on get up, like, we're past the 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.240 point of players being like no, no, no, I'm good. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.880 You know you're no longer allowed to do that because 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.240 if you're twenty four and you took a hit like 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.440 Tah and you're trying to stay with the Lions and play, 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:11.240 there's no shot. Correct. Yes, you're gonna lie, correct, But 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.400 the grown up has to assess that and say he's 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.120 got he's in trouble, even if it's a back injury, 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:22.680 and I can't put him back in totally. And that's 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.840 where you know, like, absolutely I would have lied about that, um, 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.600 and the grown up, but I had given the assumption 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.320 that they're grown up would handle it the right the 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.640 right way, at at least in their in their non 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:41.280 biased medical profession. Um. Obviously, it certainly feels like that 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.440 was something with his head on that Sunday and then 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.640 the Thursday night happens. The most interesting part about it 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.400 now for me is because everyone's like, well, even if 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.240 they're wobbly, they got to get out of the game 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.640 and they shouldn't be allowed in the game. And my 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:57.040 pushback is this, Dan like, because I think that's very 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:58.920 easy for all of us to sit here and say, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.680 what happens if that's the AFC Tiger. You know, it's 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.720 like Homes when Mahomes got hurt a couple of years 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.560 ago and it was his knee. Now, I can't take 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.680 him out if it's his knee, right, right, So what 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.920 happens if, like, what happens if I take this massive 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.040 shot as a quarterback and I get hit to the 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.960 ground and really it's I think I might have just 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.000 broke a rib or something like that. And my first 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:23.560 thing is like, oh my gosh, that you know, and 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.720 then well grabs his head. It's just I don't believe 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:30.160 that there's this perfect black and white answer for it. 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:34.400 Air on the side of caution, for sure, But again 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:38.520 there's this also very real reality of when the stakes 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.880 are at the absolute highest, do we still feel that 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.560 same way about those situations? I know, I think it's fair. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.400 In the final thirty seconds watching Green Bay and Tampa 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.160 Bay feels like this is who Green Bay is going 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.880 to be this season. Tampa Bay can still be better. 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.640 You know, when they get everybody back or get healthier. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.720 Um so higher ceiling Green Bay or Tampa Bay. I say, 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.480 Green Bay is the second most explosive offense in the 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.880 NFL right now, and they got rookie receivers having a 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.320 big impact. Those kids are only gonna get better. I 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.080 think it's hard for me to sit here and believe 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.040 that Tampa is going to get healthier. That's one of 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.080 the hardest things in the elite that usually get less 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.880 healthy as the season goes. Still really good, but I'm 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.120 really high on Green Bay right now for the first month. 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.800 We love having you on every time Yukon wins Yukon 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:34.200 football and I see it, Yeah, it looks like you 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.600 did you just buy that. It looks like it's got 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:44.720 a tag. Nobody dominates Fresno State like you guys do. Hey, 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.520 they can't come cross count. Just get given a win. 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.840 Great to talk to you. Thanks, welcome man. That's Dan 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.680 Orlovsky of the mother Ship. You can see him every 0:16:55.680 --> 0:17:00.080 afternoon at four Eastern NFL Live. Marcus Spears me to come, 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.080 Ryan Clark and Laura Ruttledge there, let's take a break here. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.359 We're gonna talk cheating coming up here. I got to 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.679 find out how you cheat and chess. We already know 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.800 that there's some guys who are They could face felony 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.719 charges for cheating and a fishing competition. So we'll get 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:22.000 phone calls coming up right after this. All right, I 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.480 know the feeling. I felt it this morning. 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Be sure to catch us live every 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.440 weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.879 on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:41.159 the iHeartRadio app at FSR, or stream us live on 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.720 the Peacock app. Say good morning to those who are 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.520 watching on Peacock, those on chat Row, and those listening 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:52.719 on nearly four hundred radio stations around America. Coming up 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.199 top of the hour, a phishing controversy, a lot of 0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:00.639 money at stake, and two of the contestants could end 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.199 up going to jail for it fell any charges, So 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:07.800 we'll have that coming up. Jeff in Atlanta leads us off. Hi, Jeff, 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:11.440 what's on your mind today? Hey? Dan? You were talking 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.280 about Bobby Knights, and yeah, you know, he and Parcels 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.080 were good friends, I think, going back to Army. But 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.800 Costas interviewed him on his later show years ago and 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.240 asked him about his relationship with sporters and said, you know, look, 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.840 you could kind of take give some of these standard 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:27.719 answers and then take the guys aside you really want 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.520 to talk to, and he said something along the lines 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.000 of like, yeah, I have that thought every once in 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.119 a while, but I really want some of these guys 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.800 to know I think they're the dumbist soobs or whatever, 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.560 something along those lines. And you know, he's a very 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.679 smart guy. Obviously that Bob Costas could probably tell you 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.800 more about those conversations you had, but it was a 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.480 great point. And thank you for bringing up the talked 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:53.720 talk about it drives me crazy. Thank you, Jeff. My 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.520 relationship with Bob Knight changed only because of j Billis, 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.280 because when I was doing Sports Center, I remember there 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:04.800 was a moment when Bob Knight grabs his son and 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:08.240 Keith Overman was working with me and Keith off the 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.919 cuff goes oh at home with the Knight family, and 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.800 Bob Knight was livid. He was not going to do 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:18.080 anything with the ESPN, hated the people on Sports Center. 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.280 And then I don't know how many years later, how 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:27.640 much time separated, but Jay Billis was talking to Coach Knight, 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:32.199 and Coach Knight said, any of those guys on Sports 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:37.879 Center that you like, that you respect, maybe is what 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.320 it was basketball wise, and Billis goes, well, you know 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.960 Dan Patrick, he played the game. He knows the game. 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.720 He goes, yeah, tell him to give me a call. 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:50.000 Billis comes back to ESPN. He goes, hey, Bob Knight 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:51.480 wants you to call him. I go what did I 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:55.040 do now? He goes, no, no, he wants to talk 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:59.560 to you. I said, Jay, you know I don't want 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.480 to get blindsider. He goes, no, no no, no, he wants 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.119 to talk to you. Yeah. I told him. You know, 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:08.600 you know coach Donna her Or had Dayton, and you know, 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:11.359 I gave him all the background. So I called coach 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:16.200 Knight and could not have been nicer. And then I said, 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.720 I'd love to have you on my radio show. Had 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:22.640 him on our radio show, and we surprised him with 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.919 Boshem Beckler, who was still still a lod This was 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:30.560 Ohio State Michigan Weekend, and he loved Boschem Beckler, even 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.199 though Bob Knight went to Ohio State loved Bow and 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:37.199 we surprised him with Boschem Beckler. They I just let 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:40.800 him talk. He called back and said it's one of 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:44.760 the nicest things anybody's ever done. And I said, well, 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.800 call back anytime. So it changed only because Bill has said, Hey, 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:53.720 this guy knows basketball. But if not Bob Knight, I 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.120 never would have had any kind of relationship with him. 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:01.479 And I hope he's doing well. You know, maybe just fishing, 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:05.520 but I hope he's doing well. Jerry and Cincinnati, Hi, Jerry, 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.800 what's on your mind today? Hey? Dan? Thanks taking on 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.240 a call. Sure, So, I'm not sure if another caller 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.520 mentioned this after Albert coolholsted his seven hundredth home run, 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.639 but I came across a mind boggling stat that it 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:22.840 takes Albert around twenty six seconds to jog around the 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:26.080 bases after hitting a home run, which means that Albert 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:30.360 has spent over five hours of his life just jogging 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:34.439 around the bases after hitting a home run. That's a 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:40.160 great number, That's that's a great call. Yeah, spent five 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:44.600