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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touched up. What's Up? Guys, Welcome

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Speaker 1: into a week thirteen edition of Chargers Weekly. We are

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Speaker 1: presented by Splittero, joined by my guy Jalila Died Matt

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Speaker 1: Muddy Smith a well deserved week off traveling to the

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Speaker 1: Midwest to see family. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody, Jalil. Happy

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving to you and yours as you see behind me. Dude,

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Speaker 1: you have girls, so you know they run the house.

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Speaker 1: So I at twin girls, four years old. They have

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Speaker 1: skipped over Thanksgiving and gone straight to Christmas. They wanted

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Speaker 1: to put this thing up like two weeks ago, so

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Speaker 1: I said, listen, we'll do it this week. But we're

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Speaker 1: at Christmas boat over here, man.

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Speaker 2: I mean I seen that in the background and I

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Speaker 2: was like, man, my wife's been bugging me to put

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Speaker 2: the Christmas tree up and I've been like, no, it's

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Speaker 2: wait and I'll feel bad, so I'll probably throw it

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Speaker 2: up after this episode.

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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving. Hey, what's your what's your go to dish?

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Speaker 3: My go to dish.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a big turkey guy, but because it's it's Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: I'll have some turkey. I like, I like doing a

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Speaker 2: whole chicken macaroni, cornbread, gotta.

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Speaker 3: Have the stuffing in there, yams kyla greens.

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Speaker 2: I do it all, man. I'm a I'm a big

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Speaker 2: big on the cook inside. I get that from my dad.

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Speaker 2: I can throw down. My wife can throw down too,

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Speaker 2: but I like to.

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Speaker 3: She does a lot. So I'm like, listen, let me

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Speaker 3: this is the day. Let me. Let me take care

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Speaker 3: of it. How about you?

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Speaker 1: Man? You know what, I'm not good in the kitchen,

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Speaker 1: but I can't eat anything, and I will eat everything tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, we got this slate of games.

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Speaker 1: You're always gonna watch football Thanksgiving, but you got you

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Speaker 1: got Lions and Packers, you got Chiefs, Cowboys, which will

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Speaker 1: have some implications for the Chargers, and then of course

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Speaker 1: the Ravens bangals. Man, so they skivvy is one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite holidays and happy to spend it with you

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Speaker 1: this next hour, man, We're gonna talk about a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things. Obviously, we'll pre be the Raiders game,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll look at the last six weeks of

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Speaker 1: the year and the kind of the path to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs are the Chargers. But let's just start with you know,

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Speaker 1: back from the buy and as a player, coming back,

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Speaker 1: especially coming off a loss like that, Like, how do

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Speaker 1: you recalibrate knowing that this team, they had been on

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Speaker 1: the road for so long. They started training camp before

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Speaker 1: everybody else, They had the Hall of Fame game, they

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Speaker 1: went to Brazil. We talked about all the miles they

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Speaker 1: logged across country. How do you come back from a

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Speaker 1: bye like this, refocused and ready to get that ultimate

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Speaker 1: prize gets the postseason?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you hit it on the head, Chris.

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Speaker 2: They obviously started the season early with the Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame game, and it's a toll. It takes a toll

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Speaker 2: mentally and physically having those extra weeks. Many won't understand that,

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Speaker 2: but listen, I think the buy came at a really

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Speaker 2: good time, and you ask, how do you come back

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Speaker 2: you know, let that be right. You look past it

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Speaker 2: and you take time off. But when you get back

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna look at what hurt us. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: But then it's like, you got to be eager to

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Speaker 2: and the players are eager to get back, especially speaking

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Speaker 2: the next one is the most important one. And once

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the Chargers had that luxury of playing

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Speaker 1: wrong in that game, but it's also an opportunity to self.

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Speaker 1: Scout and coach Harball spoke on Tuesday just about the

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Speaker 1: these last six weeks. And you know, we've talked about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you hit it on the ahead, Chris. I mean,

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Speaker 2: and he was servicing ball a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: But it's more so like what's the best what's the

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: It is what it is that like, you can't cry

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Speaker 3: This is what it is. Everyone in the league is injured.

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Speaker 2: Everyone in the league has people playing in positions that

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Speaker 1: You got you got to do that in a playoff

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna have to shuffle, and you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: come together as teammates, put an extra film, study extra

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Speaker 2: the coaches are going to evaluate.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a week to week basis what they're evaluating.

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Speaker 3: What five work.

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Speaker 2: Best together, who communicate best together, and who could cohesively

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Speaker 3: And it's tough. It's a tough position to be beat

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Speaker 2: The offense goes through the offensive line right same on

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Speaker 3: The defense runs through the defensive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's an opportunity. Last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: You know, Penning just got there. I know he had

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Speaker 1: It's just trying to find the right combination these last

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Speaker 1: And I tell you what a good offensive line or

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Speaker 2: I think it was that he had so the best

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Speaker 3: He did a really good job, you know.

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Speaker 2: But having a Marion Hampton come back and seeing the

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Speaker 2: those couple of weeks, obviously doing some weeks where they

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Speaker 2: seeing the success that Kamanie Ydell had, it's it's reassured, right,

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Speaker 2: it's reassuring saying that, hey, regardless of our offensive line

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Speaker 3: Able to find holes. Right.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I think it's going.

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Speaker 2: To be a real, real big asset to this offense

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Speaker 2: to have a Marion Hampton back. Obviously you mentioned it

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Speaker 2: before he got hurt. Chris, he was rolling right. He

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Speaker 2: and help this team reseurge and get another the boost

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Speaker 3: Obviously, with all these injuries.

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Speaker 1: Coming into the year, we were expecting Alt Slater, Hampton,

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Speaker 2: the Chargers. Okay, what's the weakness right now? It's offensive line? Right,

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Speaker 3: Getting home with four. They're giving different looks, and.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times with offensive line, guys think that

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Speaker 1: right now. But I guess elephant in the room number

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Speaker 1: ten has been hit way too much this year, just

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Speaker 1: way way too much. And yes it's the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: So that's another thing with the offensive line. July, Like,

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Speaker 1: You and Money did a great job kind of breaking down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean think the biggest thing, Chris is a

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Speaker 2: You have to try to establish the run and if

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Speaker 3: You got to try to keep pounding, keep pounding.

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Speaker 2: And then you talked about the stealers game, and I

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Speaker 3: Quick screens, right, tunnel screens, bubble screens, halfback screens. Those

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Speaker 3: Anderson, and then they would get those those tunnel.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers have those kinds of receivers. Qj's a yat guy.

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Speaker 2: You can find ways to get the ball into these

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Speaker 3: Me, the run game or the five step three step drop.

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Speaker 2: And then once you do that, now they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Right. And so then now that you can get back into.

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Speaker 3: But then you have to get the quick game, and.

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Speaker 2: You got to get those screens implemented into the game plan,

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Speaker 1: What about just making Justin Herbert just an active runner,

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Speaker 3: You can't protect yourself. We've seen that last week.

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Speaker 2: I think it's all in all, Chris, you hit it

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Speaker 1: And I love what you said about the receivers too,

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Speaker 2: There's some stuff that we see on the film, and

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Speaker 2: We know that and we talk about it consistently, and

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Speaker 2: it's worked for them.

436
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Speaker 3: And they're able to stop the run with the seven

437
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Speaker 3: man box.

438
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Speaker 2: But when guys are misaligned, when guys are not in

439
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,919
Speaker 2: their gap, when guys are not playing downhill, all that

440
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:03,919
Speaker 2: stuff ties into the.

441
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Speaker 3: Running game, right.

442
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 2: And and my coach, I always say, the defensive line

443
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,080
Speaker 2: has to play in the other team's backfield, right. They

444
00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,399
Speaker 2: have to set a new line of scrimmage. And too

445
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,040
Speaker 2: many times last week in the games that they were gashed.

446
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,399
Speaker 2: The defensive line, the linebackers were not coming downhill, they

447
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,359
Speaker 2: weren't playing aggressive, and their offensive line was creating a

448
00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,080
Speaker 2: new line of scrimmage.

449
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Speaker 3: And I love Durwin that nickel. It's another point I

450
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Speaker 3: love during at the nickel.

451
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Speaker 2: I think you can do a lot with him, but

452
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Speaker 2: I think more so on first and second down. You

453
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Speaker 2: go into more of a base defense when you got

454
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Speaker 2: bigger guys on the line, bigger linebackers, only two safeties

455
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 2: right for Dyb's total, and then you bring during in

456
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Speaker 2: the box still right, You line them up to the

457
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 2: you line them up to the passing tight end. You

458
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Speaker 2: still bring him in the box. Now, that's an eight

459
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Speaker 2: man box. Eight man box are known and are made

460
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Speaker 2: and were created to stop the run. Seven man box

461
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Speaker 2: you can, but everyone has to be really really gap

462
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,600
Speaker 2: sound right, and lately they haven't been gap sound, so

463
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Speaker 2: I think that's where they've been getting hurt. I would

464
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Speaker 2: like to see first and second down going to a

465
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Speaker 2: base package. We have bigger guys defense, three lines, sorry,

466
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Speaker 2: defensive line, three linebackers, two safeties with molding James in

467
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Speaker 2: the back.

468
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Speaker 3: Drop durn down for the run. And then on third down,

469
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 3: you can get cute, you can get fancy, but I

470
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Speaker 3: think you have to allow them to play behind the sticks.

471
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Speaker 3: And too many times this year teams on the defense

472
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Speaker 3: is not on. Teams are playing not behind the sticks.

473
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Speaker 3: It's second and six.

474
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Speaker 2: It's second and four, and those are called waist downs,

475
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Speaker 2: right because they're already have game plans for third and four,

476
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Speaker 2: third and six, and at that point they can just

477
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Speaker 2: kind of do a screen.

478
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Speaker 3: They can take a.

479
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 2: Shot because if it's incomplete, guess what, it's third and four,

480
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 2: it's third and sticks. It's still a manageable down to

481
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Speaker 2: get the first. So I would love to see them

482
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Speaker 2: play more bass. To answer your question, defensive line play downhill.

483
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Speaker 2: Linebackers play downhill and force them to pass, force them

484
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Speaker 2: to pass. I don't think that the team can consistently

485
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Speaker 2: beat us passing the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: You know, the next two weeks you get Ashton Gens

487
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Speaker 1: and we'll get into Ashton and just thes preview in

488
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Speaker 1: a little bit. But after that you got Saquon Barkley,

489
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Speaker 1: and then after that it's it's it's Kansas City.

490
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Speaker 3: Uh.

491
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Speaker 1: Kind of a pass heavy team. The Cowboys with Ceedee

492
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Speaker 1: Lamb and George Pickens and any of the Texans coming

493
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Speaker 1: to town, followed by that week eight team game in Denver.

494
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Speaker 1: But just looking at these next two weeks, like those

495
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Speaker 1: are the two guys you can't let beat you, Saquon

496
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Speaker 1: Barkley and Ashton Genty. So other than that bench little

497
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Speaker 1: I came out of that Pittsburgh game and just seeing

498
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Speaker 1: the way Giro called that game and the way the

499
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 1: defense played it, I left sofi Stadium that I thinking like, Hey,

500
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Speaker 1: if the Chargers are gonna get to the postseason and

501
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Speaker 1: make noise in the postseason, it's gonna be the defense.

502
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the defense that carries the day, and

503
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Speaker 1: you have a franchise quarterback that can do just enough

504
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Speaker 1: to win games. But I still believe that, like I

505
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: do feel like that that game fourteen days ago was

506
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Speaker 1: kind of an anomaly because I've seen this defense play

507
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: really good football for a year and half, right, Like

508
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: you had to slip up against Liam Cohen last year

509
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: when he was the offensive coordinator of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

510
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Liam Cohen knows how to play this defense.

511
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: But other than that, and then a couple other games

512
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Speaker 1: under Jesse Mitcher, like, this defense has been just dependable

513
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: and you have leaders on all three levels, and I

514
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Speaker 1: still have confidence that with six weeks to go, this

515
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Speaker 1: is the unit to kind of carry the day.

516
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Speaker 2: I mean it's cliche, right, defense wins championships and we

517
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,239
Speaker 2: know that. Obviously you got to have a quarterback at

518
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Speaker 2: the helm that can get the job done and tight

519
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: situations and had that clutch Jean so to say.

520
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Speaker 3: But yeah, the defense is going to bring this home.

521
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: And I think when you have a defense and you

522
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 2: have a special teams like the Chargers have and the kicker, right,

523
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 2: those are two of the most valuable things that you

524
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: need when you're going into the postseason and when you're

525
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Speaker 2: heading into December, because December is just an extension of

526
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: the playoffs, right, you have to play your best football

527
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: in December, and that's where we are and the defense

528
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 2: has to step up, right, however it looks we have

529
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: to win the turnover margin. We have to be able

530
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: to get to the quarterback, right, your superstars have to

531
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: play superstar ball.

532
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Speaker 3: That goes that's.

533
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: Durwin James, that's Khalil Mack, right, that's Dayon Haynes, that's

534
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: day On and then on the outside, you got to

535
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Speaker 2: have guys.

536
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Speaker 3: And we talk about it all the time.

537
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Speaker 2: They rotate corners so much, right, you see Tarheed, you

538
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 2: see cam right, you see Dante, It's you see Saint Juice. Like,

539
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: they rotate guys so much. And all these guys are productive, right,

540
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: All these guys are productive, So they have the talent.

541
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Speaker 3: We also, we obviously know Jesse Manner is the guy

542
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Speaker 3: for the job.

543
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: Right, He's a whiz on the defensive end, on the

544
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Speaker 2: defensive side. But they have to put it together, Chris,

545
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Speaker 2: And we're not in those meetings, we're not at those practices,

546
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 2: we're not at those walkthroughs. But I know that they're

547
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: real detail oriented and the guys have to take what

548
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: they're learning in the classroom, what they're learning in the walkthroughs,

549
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: take it to practice, and from practice, take it to

550
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Speaker 2: the field. And I think although that loss to Jacksonville

551
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: was bad, I think that might have been the best

552
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Speaker 2: thing that needed to happen to this team, right coming

553
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Speaker 2: out Bitsburg, feeling themselves, national television out physically one of

554
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: the most physical organizations in the history of the NFL,

555
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: and I mean everyone was on cloud nine.

556
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Speaker 3: I was walking on my tip toes around here in.

557
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: Carlsbad, right, wearing my Charges gear, feeling good, And it's natural, Right,

558
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: it's a natural thing. Right, you play well on the

559
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: national stage, You're heading to a team down south, who's

560
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: not really the team that you just beat, got a

561
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Speaker 2: bye week. Look staring at you right in, right in

562
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Speaker 2: your face. Could you have not been as focused? Could

563
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: you guys have not been detail oriented?

564
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: Maybe? Right? But I think that was very humbling.

565
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Speaker 2: I think those guys and the coaches never want to

566
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Speaker 2: put a product out there on tape like that again,

567
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Speaker 2: and I think they're going to do the necessary things

568
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: to change that.

569
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Speaker 4: And keep it by Jacksonville. They blew a nineteen point

570
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Speaker 4: lead in the fourth quarter the week before. Can you

571
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Speaker 4: imagine what that locker room was like after that game

572
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Speaker 4: and the practice was and the kind of the want

573
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Speaker 4: to to get back out there.

574
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Speaker 1: And I feel like it's almost the same thing with

575
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Speaker 1: the Chargers this week against the Raiders, like you got humiliated,

576
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Speaker 1: you had to sit with for two weeks. Now you

577
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: have your division rival coming to town and you want

578
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: nothing more than to beat them badly. Get to eight

579
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Speaker 1: and four and start to get on a run and

580
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Speaker 1: I want to shift to just the last six weeks

581
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Speaker 1: and just the playoff picture as we sit like right now,

582
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Speaker 1: even though the Chargers lost to the Jags, they're ahead

583
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: of the Jags because of these crazy AFC tie breakers,

584
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: like if you're seven and four with another team like

585
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. The Chargers they took care of the

586
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: division early. They have a better conference record right now,

587
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: so they'd be going to Baltimore if the season ended

588
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: today to take on the Ravens in the wildcard round.

589
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: There's ten teams and there's seven spots essentially right now,

590
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: and the math didn't help out the Chargers. On Sunday,

591
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs beat the Colts. You saw the Texans beat

592
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Speaker 1: the Bills, so that kind of brought the Bills down

593
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, brought the Texans up a little bit.

594
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Speaker 1: So there wasn't a lot of good in terms of

595
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: kind of tie breakers and things of that nature. But

596
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: the Chargers have to just take care of their own business.

597
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: And I think the path of the playoffs is you

598
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: got to get three the next six, right, you got

599
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: to get to ten wins, and I think you get

600
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Speaker 1: in if you beat the Raiders, and then I'm circling

601
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Speaker 1: the game at Arrowhead and then the game against the

602
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Speaker 1: Houston Texans coming to Sofi Stadium. Of course, you want

603
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: to beat the Cowboys, you want to beat the Eagles,

604
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: you want to beat the Broncos. Week eight team that

605
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: may or may not mean anything, but I just I

606
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: look at those three games. We're allowed to look ahead.

607
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: This team is focused on the Raiders. But I look

608
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Speaker 1: at those three games. Jalil is like, Okay, those are

609
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: the three that you got to get to ensure that

610
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Speaker 1: you're in the postseason.

611
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Speaker 2: May yeah, and the key to beating the Raiders is

612
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: you get after Geno and stop the run. Right, they

613
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: lean heavy on asking gent and right now he's struggling

614
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: whatever that case may be offensive line schemes.

615
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Speaker 3: And then you look at the Chiefs, right.

616
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Speaker 2: And the Chiefs were almost in a sink or swim

617
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: situation last week in Arrowhead in the playoff atmosph with

618
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Speaker 2: the team that's probably one of the better teams in

619
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: the AFC right now, with the Colts, and they squeaked.

620
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: It out and that was doing die ball.

621
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: They might not say it in the media, but I

622
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: know in those meetings they were talking like, hey, listen,

623
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: we take l here, we could be looking at not

624
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: making the playoffs. So the Chargers going to Arrowhead, that's

625
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: gonna be tough. We know that it's gonna be tough.

626
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a playoff atmosphere, and that's gonna be

627
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: one that they got to grab. And then you look

628
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: at Houston and what Houston just did. The way their

629
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: defense is playing, man, their defense.

630
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 3: Is scary right now.

631
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Speaker 1: It's scary, man. I mean, are they the best defense

632
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: in football? I think you could make our argument Denver

633
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: Green based in that conversation, but I think it's Houston.

634
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: Denver in Houston might be the two. But because Houston,

635
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: it's all three levels. Their secondary is nasty, the safeties

636
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: are nasty, they have a premier shutdown corner, Their linebackers

637
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: are physical, and then they have their defensive front is

638
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: probably the best defensive front, two best pass rushers in

639
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: the NFL right now. Right if you were to asked

640
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: me this maybe five weeks ago, I mean, no one

641
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: was really talking about the Texas, but the beating it

642
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: they put on.

643
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Speaker 3: Who do they just play? Was it on national TV?

644
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: They just they just be Buffalo Thursday Night.

645
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: Football YEP from Thursday night Football Buffalo.

646
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: They made Buffalo look really average, right, and the week

647
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: before Josh Allen went for six total touchdowns.

648
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: So those are gonna be three tough games.

649
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: Obviously the Raiders should be the most attainable, but because

650
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: it's the Raiders and we know how the Chargers and

651
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: the Raiders games go, no matter the record, no matter

652
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 2: the time of year, it's not gonna be just roll

653
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: the ball out and think that things are gonna fall

654
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 2: and chips are gonna fall where they need to fall.

655
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: You got to put the effort and you got to

656
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: put the work in this week. And like you said,

657
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: they're looking at the Raiders now, we're looking at it

658
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: in a big picture. But it's not an easy road.

659
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: Right in Charging Nations, we know that they know that

660
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: it's not going to be an easy road at all.

661
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: But I think if you go back to July and

662
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: training camp when everyone's healthy and you can say, hey,

663
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: listen and by Thanksgiving we're gonna have this many injuries

664
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: and going into December, you got to play your best ball.

665
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: We got the chance to go eight and four with

666
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: the Raiders on our schedule. I think a lot of

667
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: Charging Nations and I think me and you both will

668
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: say that's we'll take that right. So, I think at

669
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: the end of the day, although there's been a lot

670
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: of ebs and flows like the stock market, with this

671
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: team up and down, up and down. Uh, to be

672
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: able to come out of this week on Monday eight

673
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: and four with a new with a new vision, feeling

674
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: better about ourselves, I think it's a good thing for

675
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: the organization as a whole.

676
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: Julie. If they do get into the tournament, they will

677
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: certainly have earned it. I was I was on the

678
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: Locked ONWN podcast with those guys, and we were just

679
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: talking about the you know, the differences in winning eleven

680
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: games last year against some teams that were not that great.

681
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: It was a fourth place schedule. The quarterbacks weren't the

682
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that they're seeing this year, certainly, UH. But to

683
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: to beat Patrick Mahomes, to beat bow Knicks, UH, to

684
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, UH. To get these quality

685
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: wins in the AFC, and then you look at what's ahead.

686
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: Right if if you get into the playoffs, you're gonna

687
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: have to go through the Chiefs again. You're gonna have

688
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: to go through the Texans. You're gonna have to go

689
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: through that Philadelphia defensive line like on Monday Night Football,

690
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: and then travel to arrowheader on a short week you

691
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: got the Dallas Cowboys and that explosive offense, and then

692
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: you got the Broncos in Week EIGHTEAM. That could mean

693
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: the division, could mean nothing. But if they do get in,

694
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: like they will have earned it, and I think they

695
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: would be actually more battle tested going into the postseason

696
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: this year than they were last year.

697
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: And I think there's something to say.

698
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: Listen, if they do get in with the pitcher you

699
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: just painted by the way your picostle, you painted that

700
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: thing beautiful, Chris.

701
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: If they do get in.

702
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: Chris, listen, they're going to be one of the teams

703
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: that nobody wants to play, right because of how battle

704
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: tested they are. Every game going on this stretch, and

705
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: you can say this a lot for other teams, but

706
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: every game going on this stretch with the strength of schedule,

707
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: this is playoff football. December is playoff football for the

708
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: Charges right now. And they got to look at it

709
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: like that.

710
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're an NFL fan and your team is

711
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: playing meaningful football after Thanksgiving, you should be thankful. It's

712
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: a good time to to tap in and get ready

713
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725
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: We've probably done this before, but you have to give

726
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: me your favorite Raiders story from your time playing, Like,

727
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 1: was there a was there a game? Was there a

728
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: season that you remember beating these guys and maybe there

729
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 1: was some fireworks behind it?

730
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 3: Oh man, the Raiders.

731
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: Man, I just know that I remember coming to the

732
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: Charges and I'm coming from Florida Central Mission University and

733
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: they're like, the Charges are Raiders. I mean the Raiders

734
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: are excuse me, the Raiders our arrival. And when you

735
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: go to the coliseum, they advised us not for our

736
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: family to come right because those fans can get really rowdy,

737
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: as you know, and they want your family to be

738
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: as safe as possible. So I told my family not

739
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: to come as my I think it was my rookie year,

740
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: and I remember driving in to the coliseum and they

741
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: were throwing stuff at us, flicking us off. They got

742
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: the face paint, they got the mask on, and I'm like,

743
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: all right, these guys are roudy. Then we get out

744
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: there right and we're playing. I can feel it. You

745
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: can feel the energy the black Hole. You can feel

746
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: the energy. You can feel, you know.

747
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: The tension.

748
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: They're talking smack, We're talking smack. And then it's like

749
00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: halftime and I'm like, like, what's that smell. I'm like,

750
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: this is my welcome to California moment.

751
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, in the middle of the game, I'm like,

752
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: this is crazy.

753
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: That was the first first like thing that I remember

754
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: about the Raiders, right the atmosphere.

755
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: It was in Oakland. The Colisseum, Yes, the Colisseum. I

756
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: forgot the name of the stadium.

757
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it was like the Oakland Colisseum.

758
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: Yes, Oaklen Colosseum. And then I remember it was like

759
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, I think it was. We were playing

760
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: Derek Carr. We were I think We're in overtime and

761
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: I was playing middle safety and this was one of

762
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: the most memorable players that I had Forrett actually ended

763
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: the game with the pick, I think, and overtime this game,

764
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: but they tried to take me deep. It was like

765
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: third and twelve and I was in the midfield safety

766
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: and they ran a big corner post on our corner

767
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: and he was shallow and it came to me it

768
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: was right in front of the black hole, and I

769
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: remember that like, they threw it deep and I'm just

770
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 2: chasing it and it got caught in the lights and

771
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: it's dark in there, all black crowd, and I couldn't

772
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: really see the ball. And last second I see it

773
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: and I had to dive over the receivers back and

774
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: get my hand between his hands, and I didn't know

775
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: if I broke the ball up or not.

776
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: I almost I got up almost like dang, did he score?

777
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: And then I just heard the crowd of who and

778
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: the referee go was incomplete, and I remember I was

779
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: a young guy at the time, and I was like,

780
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: I cannot have that on my resume with Charging Nation

781
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: losing the game like that, and it was on National TV.

782
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: I think it was a Thursday night incomplete, got up celebrated. Man,

783
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: that was one of the good memorable plays I had

784
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 2: against the Raiders.

785
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: Man, that's awesome. You know, the records don't matter in

786
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: this rivalry. Raider Nation, we know they're going to show up.

787
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: Charge is going to show up. These two fan bases

788
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: do not like each other. It feels like ancient history.

789
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: The last time they played Week two, I remember what

790
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: a big game that was on Monday Night football. Q

791
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: had that big touchdown catch and they went twenty to nine,

792
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: and it's just it's amazing what can happen in like

793
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: a ten to twelve week span. Man, Like the Raiders,

794
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of close losses. They've also been

795
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: out and you know their season is essentially over. They

796
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: fired their offensive coordinator, Chip Kelly right after that Browns game,

797
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you could just kind of

798
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: take me inside a defensive meeting room and there's a

799
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, but the same personnel like it seems

800
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: to me just listening to Pete Carroll this week. I

801
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: listen to one of the interviews he did with the

802
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: with the in house folks over there. They want to

803
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: run the football. I don't know if they can run

804
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: the football with that offensive line. But how do you

805
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: approach this week knowing that Chip Kelly's no longer calling

806
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: the plays and Greg Olsen is in.

807
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not going to implement a whole new playbook, right,

808
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: You're going to see the same stuff, right.

809
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: They might dress it differently.

810
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: They might run stuff out of three by one formation

811
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: where they have Tennessee's, but they might start off in

812
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: an empty set right three by two and then motion

813
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: the running back in the backfield to get to their

814
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: original play. So you're not going to see much. They're

815
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: not going to create a whole new playbook. But what

816
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: they will try to do is new offensive coordinator calling.

817
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: They're going to try to run the ball with asking

818
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: gent everyone's calling for it, right, you know.

819
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: That's what they want. And he has shown like he

820
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: has shown.

821
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: The ability he runs the ball tough, he's he's has

822
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: He's probably had like six tombstones in his in his

823
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: bedroom right now, because he's ran over guys at play

824
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: after play, Like if he gets into the open field

825
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: that's one on one and you don't lower your pads,

826
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: you will be on his highlight tape.

827
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: Right.

828
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: He's a physical runner, keeps his legs turning, and that's

829
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 2: what the offense is gonna go through. I mean sad

830
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: to say, like who who are gonna run the office

831
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: through in the passing game?

832
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: Right?

833
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: What receiver for on the roster is gonna beat you

834
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: other than Brock Bowers, right, that's their number one?

835
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right?

836
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: Gelah Smith obviously have a lot of respect for Gino,

837
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 2: played with Gino, but he's struggling right now and he's

838
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: he doesn't seem to have the timing down.

839
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: He doesn't seem to have the time to throw the ball.

840
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: And I think that's the biggest thing where if we

841
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: can get home with four maybe five, stop the runner

842
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: first and second down, like the defense should.

843
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 3: Eat all day long on Sunday, all day long.

844
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: Jill, I don't know if you agree with this. I

845
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: look at their team and I see three players, so

846
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: it's like the Raiders Big three, Like these are the

847
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: three guys that you cannot let affect the game. Max Crosby,

848
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: Ashton Genty, and brock Bowers, Like, those are the three

849
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: guys who if the Raiders somehow win a football game,

850
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a stat sheet that that looks like

851
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: they they were the ones who put the Raiders in

852
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: the position to win, right, Ashton Genty, brock Bowers and

853
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: Max Crosby. We just talked about Ashton Genty and and

854
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: you know in the segment before just the need to

855
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: stop the run and make sure that you got you

856
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: got hats on the on the football.

857
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

858
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: With brock Bowers, he was hurt in week two, Like

859
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: I think we forget that he was not one hundred percent.

860
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: I think he's one hundred percent. Now. Is this something

861
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: where you just put door one on him and let

862
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: it just like set it and forget it, or do

863
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: you have a plan for black brock Bowers beyond just

864
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: number three?

865
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: I think, excuse me, I think you do. Durwin James

866
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: Monoi Mono, Like I said, I.

867
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: Think you were on base. I think you get big.

868
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: Guys in there. You drop Durwin down to the side

869
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: that he's on. Play man and man, man and man. Listen,

870
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: when you play man and man, it makes the run

871
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: gap so much easier because it's my man, my fit

872
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: Wherever my man inserts, that's where I'm fitting right now.

873
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: When you're playing zone and gaps move and guards are

874
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: pulling and tackles are pulling.

875
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: And you got to be able to be gap sound,

876
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: defensive line has to stand the gaps.

877
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: Linebackers have to flow.

878
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: It's a lot of moving parts and that's a lot

879
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: of things that you work through or walk throughs, and

880
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: you work through in team meetings and defensive meetings.

881
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: But when you go man.

882
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: And man, you say my guy versus your guy, and

883
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: I believe that he's better, and I believe that Durren

884
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: James is better than Brock Bowers. Brock Powers is going

885
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: to be a really good tight end in this league.

886
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: But we've seen Durham James time after time take away

887
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: big time tight ends. He's done it against Kelsey, He's

888
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: done it over and over and over and is he

889
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: gonna lose something? Yeah, he's human, but I think he

890
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: minimizes the big games that you have with Brock.

891
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: And then on third down you could double him.

892
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: You can get fancy, but when you're talking first and

893
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: second down, you drop during in the box on base right,

894
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: and then you play my man, my fit man and

895
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: man wide receivers on the outside, corners on the outside,

896
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: y'all are locked up. I don't believe that your wide

897
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: receivers are better than our secondary. Have you close the

898
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: middle of the field, you stop the run. If Brock

899
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 2: motions during, you travel. If he splits during, you go right.

900
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: And then you play like that, and then once you

901
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 2: start to see the epps and floor of the game

902
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: and see how they're attacking you, then maybe you can adjust.

903
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: But straight starting starting the game with the game plan.

904
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm walking in there. We're saying, Durren James, we're playing

905
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: man and man during.

906
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: You got brought outside.

907
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 2: You got to hold up middle of the field, closed,

908
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: defensive line and linebackers, play downhill right, play downhill, hit

909
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,959
Speaker 2: hit two much as you can, hard as you can

910
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: legally between the whistles, and when Gino dumps back to pass,

911
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: make it cloudy and get after him.

912
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: It's funny because we talk about a new offensive coordinator

913
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: versus like a new quarterback. Let's say it's just it's

914
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: totally different, Like the personnel is the same for right,

915
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Gholston and we know that there's not a lot of

916
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: places that he can go outside of hours in Jens.

917
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: I remember, do you remember the game that Joe Flacco

918
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: came to the Bengals and Jamar Chase is just like,

919
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: just throw me the ball like he was targeting like

920
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: twenty three times. Like I always feel like that's what

921
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: Greg Golson is probably gonna do with Brock Bauers, just

922
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: like I don't care if he's doubled triple. Just throw

923
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: it to eighty nine, throw it up there and see

924
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: what happens. And give Ashton jenz as many carries as

925
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: possible because there's not much else you can do.

926
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 2: Right, No, I mean you hit it on the head.

927
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's what I think the game plan

928
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: is gonna be. They're gonna try to run the ball.

929
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 2: I think Ashmen will probably get eighteen to twenty two carries,

930
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 2: and like you said, they're gonna try to get Brock.

931
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: They're gonna do tight end screens.

932
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 2: They're gonna play him off the ball, motion them boots right,

933
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: get Geno out of the pocket, you know, because they

934
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: know we're gonna come after him. So I think that's

935
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: the game plan. The coaches know that's the game plan.

936
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: I think the whole Charges Nation, Raiders nation knows that's

937
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: a game plan. Ashing genty brock Bowers. And then you

938
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: talk about Max Crosby. I've watched the game last week

939
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: live and obviously Max is a dog, right, He's everything,

940
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 2: He's everything, He's as advertised. But even the Cleveland Browns

941
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: they mitigated his his his game reckonability, and I think

942
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 2: that the Chargers can do it do it as well.

943
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: I remember week two, wasn't it Pip. Wasn't it Pip

944
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 2: that was on him in week two?

945
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, got he got some helping, but they kept

946
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: Crossby in checked.

947
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 3: But they had to do right.

948
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm kind of alluding to, almost like

949
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: you got to go back to that same game plan.

950
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: If it's not broke, don't fix it.

951
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: What did you do in week two against Max that

952
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: allowed Herbert to have the time that he had? And

953
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: I think once you do that, I think, listen, man,

954
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 2: the Chargers should go into this game and they should

955
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: run away with this thing. But like you said, it

956
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: has to be a good game plan. The players have

957
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: to make the plays come to life, and they can't

958
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: go in there thinking that they're just going to roll

959
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: the ball out and beat the Raiders.

960
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be one of the trenches. And you know

961
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: the Raiders. You allow Gino to get sacked ten times,

962
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: ten times last Sunday. The Raiders have allowed twenty sacks

963
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: in the last three weeks. So I'm looking at Khalil Mack,

964
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: who had a six sack performance against the Raiders a

965
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. We all remember ada Ao way

966
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: too le two Polo two. You can even throw a

967
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: bud Dupree in that mix. Those edge rushers, they're gonna

968
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna tee off and I think that will be

969
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: the unit to watch on Sundays, Like how much can

970
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: they affect Gino? We saw even the secondary in week too, Jalil,

971
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: like they got their hands on so many balls that

972
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: Gina threw up there. I know Gina was sailing some,

973
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: but like the dbs were real sticky and coverage in

974
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: Week two and and I just think that the way

975
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: that the Raiders offensive line has been playing, man, it's

976
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: you have no choice but to look at look at

977
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: your leader Khalil Mack, and say you go and we

978
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: will follow.

979
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's as important as the edge rushers is

980
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 2: gonna be I'm gonna I'm gonna even dare to say,

981
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: the interior Chris, they have to push that pocket, right,

982
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: because they're gonna tell them like, look, they have the

983
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: edge rushers, then what we want to do is run

984
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: them wide and run them past Gino and Gino, we

985
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: want you to step up in the pocket and step

986
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: up in the A and B gap because you know

987
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: can run if he needs to. Right, I think the

988
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: biggest thing will be the interior. That's what I'm looking

989
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 2: at this game is looking at that interior and see

990
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: what the push like.

991
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 3: Right, are you creating a new line of scrimmage? Are

992
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: you putting the center and the guard in.

993
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: Geno's lap so that he has to escape outside to

994
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: our war wounds?

995
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: Our warriors are right, and I think that's going to

996
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: be the name of the game.

997
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: Interior defense, create a new line of scrimmage on the

998
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: run and the interior defense. Whenever he's dropping back the past,

999
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: you have to push the pocket so that you can

1000
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: allow your edge rushers to do their thing.

1001
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, before we get out of here, Jimil, give me,

1002
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: give me a player on both sides of the ball

1003
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: that you think is going to have to show up

1004
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: on Sunday and really moving forward to get this team

1005
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: of the postseason.

1006
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the two top dogs on defense.

1007
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: I'm going with one on defense, and I'm going one

1008
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: on offense.

1009
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 3: And I'm going with Durwin. Right, I'm going with Duran.

1010
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: He's a heartbeat.

1011
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: Right, Durren has to play the best, play his best

1012
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: football in December. Office is going to start Week one

1013
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 2: with brock Bowers. He has to be the guy to mitigate, minimize,

1014
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: you know the damage that brock Bauers can do. Right,

1015
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: I'm going with Duran on defense. He's a spark plug.

1016
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: He's the energy. He brings the juice and everybody feeds

1017
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: all him. Then on offense, I'm going with Herbert. Right,

1018
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: you had a not so good showing last week. No

1019
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: matter what your offensive lines beat up, your running backs

1020
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: are out, nobody cares. Right, it is what it is.

1021
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: And so many times, Herbert, you've shown charge of nation.

1022
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: You've shown us that regardless of the regardless of the

1023
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: situation around you, Right, you're able to overcome that. You're

1024
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: able to be that superman. You're able to move the

1025
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: change at your feet, You're able to do the thing

1026
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: the unthinkable.

1027
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: And you spoiled us, right, and he has spoiled us,

1028
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: and that's the kind of player he is.

1029
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: But he's going to also have to play his best

1030
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: football going into December, starting with the Raiders moving forward,

1031
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: and then the coaches. Let's not forget about the coaches.

1032
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: The game plan has to be legit right. You got

1033
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: to help these guys out. You know, you're hampered in

1034
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: some areas on offense, defense, and special teams has to

1035
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: step up. Obviously, Cameron Dicker has been really, really good

1036
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: for a long time.

1037
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: But the special team as a whole, the kickoff.

1038
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: Team, the punk return team, these guys got to flip

1039
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: the field. These guys got to play compromary football for

1040
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: all three phases.

1041
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: You know what, man, that was the one thing that

1042
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention it to you at the top

1043
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: that I didn't with special teams, and you just hit

1044
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: it there, like there's there's been a little inconsistency with

1045
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: the special teams. But but we know who Ryan Ficken is. Man.

1046
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Fick has been rock solid as a coordinator from

1047
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: his time in Minnesota to his time in Los Angeles,

1048
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: just really really quick on that unit. How important is

1049
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: it to get that unit going, especially in the kick

1050
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: return game we talked about you know, Niim Hines who's

1051
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: no longer on the team, had that big kick return.

1052
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna need some some splash plays in

1053
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: that face of the game moving forward.

1054
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you got to get Darius. We keep

1055
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: forgetting that. Darius Davis. He was a he was all pro, right,

1056
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: he's all Pro returner at one point in time early

1057
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: in his career, and he's when you look at the

1058
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: kicker turn kick returns almost like it's it's like being

1059
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: a running back, but it's just you're playing further and

1060
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: further away from each other and the impacts bigger, and

1061
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: Darius doesn't have that big frame, right, So how you

1062
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: use Darius is we like to say counters. So you

1063
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: attack to the attack to the short side, and then

1064
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: you it back to the field and you allow him

1065
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: to use his speed. What I've seen him doing with

1066
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: him this year is kind of just making him run

1067
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: straight up the middle, and that's not really his game.

1068
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 3: He's a speedster, he's a jitter guy. He's a guy

1069
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 3: that wants to get on the outside, use his speed

1070
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: and if he sees us. If he sees a crease,

1071
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: he'll stick his foot in the ground and get north

1072
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 3: and south.

1073
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: But I think you got to somehow run some kind

1074
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: of counters, right, get him going one way, bring it

1075
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: back the other way, and schematically scheme it up so

1076
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: that you can see his ability come to life. And

1077
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: then on part return the same thing. And then on kickoff. Right,

1078
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: that's that's just an extension of the defense that they

1079
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: set the tempo, right, they set the temple. You know

1080
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: how it is. You kick the ball off and the

1081
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: kickoff team goes down there and gets a big hit

1082
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: and everyone's juiced up. Oh let's go. The defense jogs

1083
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: on the field. You're feeding off of that, right, So

1084
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 2: that's right. Yeah, the special teams has to get going,

1085
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: right because the offense and defense both depend on them,

1086
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Speaker 2: and they both get their energy from them.

1087
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Speaker 1: I can't wait for Sunday, man, I feel like we've

1088
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: been going for too long. That bye week, and the

1089
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Speaker 1: great thing about that game. After the game, Jalil a

1090
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: Dog gonna be in studio CBS Los Angeles on Sunday. Right,

1091
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: You'll be there this Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I'll be there this Sunday let's go tune in, baby.

1093
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Speaker 1: Let's go. Yeah, I'll be at the games a little

1094
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: being studio breaking it down. Does an awesome job with

1095
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Speaker 1: our Sports Central crew, So looking forward to that. And

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Speaker 1: uh just want to give a shout out to all

1097
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: our listeners and viewers. Man, we are thankful for you.

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Speaker 1: You guys are with us every single week Windows or Drawl.

1099
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's awesome, man, it's it's I love having

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00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: Jalil part of this mix and and money is the

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00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: absolute best. Wish him a happy Thanksgiving and uh, anything

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Speaker 1: else before we get out of here.

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00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: Bro Oh no, that's it. Happy Thanksgiving. Don't eat too

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00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: much and if you do, okay, that's what the holiday

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00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: is for. Just make sure you get your steps in

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Speaker 2: and we'll be fired up for Sunday. Ready to see

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Speaker 2: the charges get a w.

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00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah you may be in a little a little Turkey coma,

1109
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: but just wake up for Sunday. Right, That's all we ask.

1110
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 3: That's it. I'm gonna be on two to three plates,

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Speaker 3: so I don't judge anybody.

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Speaker 1: All right for Jalil, I'm Chris. This has been Charges Weekly.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 2: A street

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Speaker 1: Street