WEBVTT - Why is no one paying attention to the Pelicans?

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode, they eat check. Let's look at three

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<v Speaker 1>Western Conference teams who need to prove that they belong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the Pelicans, I'm talking about the Warriors.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the Sacramento Kings. Baby. We also get

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<v Speaker 1>into ale bit of news from around the league. Nice

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<v Speaker 1>little interview with CBS Sports Radio and NBA insider Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Ryder from writer than You. We get a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>get into. My guy, Anthony, so drop that muther hucking

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<v Speaker 1>beat and should be real. Today's Western Conference standings are

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<v Speaker 1>very tight, and I was looking in the standings and

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<v Speaker 1>there's one team that my eyes just seemed to glaze

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<v Speaker 1>in gloss over. Is there a team more easy to

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<v Speaker 1>ignore than the New Orleans Pelicans, Because unless you're living

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bayou or watching League past twenty four to seven,

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<v Speaker 1>good for you, by the way, it would be very

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<v Speaker 1>easy to miss. Not the buyo part, but the league

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<v Speaker 1>pass twenty four is also. New Orleans is pretty sick too.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't hate living there outside of the humidity. The

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<v Speaker 1>Pelicans are in fifth place right now in the West,

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<v Speaker 1>in a very difficult West, and they are chasing down

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers for the fourth spot. The Clippers by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>who just vomited a lead away to the Milwaukee Bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>They are ten and four the New Orleans Pelicans in

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<v Speaker 1>the last fourteen games. So the question that I have

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<v Speaker 1>is why doesn't anybody take them seriously? Why aren't people

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention? Why are we saying, eh, Pelicans, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been basically top six in the West the entire

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<v Speaker 1>season and no one gives a fuck. Part of it

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<v Speaker 1>might be the fact that they play in New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>and their their team name is the Pelicans, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have eight nationally talized game games this year. Part of

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<v Speaker 1>it has to do with the fact that this team

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<v Speaker 1>has been up and down over the past three years.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a case of hey, show me state. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to see it to believe it. And there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of believers in those Pelicans, at least not nationally.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are a lot of reasons to like this

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<v Speaker 1>Pelicans team. I was digging into the deats and it

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<v Speaker 1>starts with Zion. For the first time in ages, Zion

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<v Speaker 1>is healthy ish right. He's played in forty nine games

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<v Speaker 1>this year. That is like for Zion, that's one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the games. We have not been paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to Zion. He's been going below the radar. Nobody's been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about him, except for Stephen A. Smith when he

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<v Speaker 1>just lazily decided to use the same old narrative about

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<v Speaker 1>Zion because Zion is a close representation of the team

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole. In Zion's last eighteen games, he's averaging

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three point seven points, four point eight rebounds, and

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<v Speaker 1>five point eight assists, shooting fifty six percent from the field.

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<v Speaker 1>And because of the fact that they don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of playmakers on this team, Zion has returned to

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<v Speaker 1>playing the point points Zion points. Zion has responded. In

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<v Speaker 1>his last ten He's averaged seven assists per game, up

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<v Speaker 1>for four and a half a game in the last

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<v Speaker 1>In the first fifty Pelicans games this year, the Pelicans

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<v Speaker 1>assist rate and turnover rate both on the bottom half

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<v Speaker 1>of the league, and none of their players are elite passers,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's very important that Zion facilitate this offense effectively,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he does, the Pelicans cook. And of course, Zion,

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<v Speaker 1>as he always has been when he's healthy, is unstoppable

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<v Speaker 1>in the paint. He is number two in the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>in points in the paint this season, and that includes

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he's not getting any calls. He's averaging

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<v Speaker 1>just six point seven free throw attempts per game, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a career low. Remember when who was it, Stan

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<v Speaker 1>Van Gundy, David Griffin. There was a whole hullabaloo about

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<v Speaker 1>Zion not getting calls. There were some calls to the

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<v Speaker 1>league office, there were some articles written about it. People

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<v Speaker 1>were pissed. So Zion just doesn't get calls because he's

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<v Speaker 1>so big, so strong, it's so powerful that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know how to call his games. There's a short

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<v Speaker 1>list of players though, who operate in the same amount

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<v Speaker 1>of physicality as Zion and it does not result in

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<v Speaker 1>foul shots as much as it should. Shay Gilgis, Alexander Janni,

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Ta Kumpa Luka Doncic, to name three peers, are

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<v Speaker 1>each above eight point nine attempts this season. So what

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<v Speaker 1>do I like about the Pelicans? The fact that they're

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<v Speaker 1>so deep, I think is an incredible asset for them.

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<v Speaker 1>There is any statistic I want to share. In their

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<v Speaker 1>last fourteen games, the Pelicans have had six different leading

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<v Speaker 1>scorers of the game, Zions four, Brendan Ingram, four, Jonnis

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<v Speaker 1>Valanciunis one, Nice CJ. McCollum two, Trey Murphy one, and

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<v Speaker 1>Herb Jones one. Only the Boston Celtics number one team

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<v Speaker 1>in basketball and the Pacers with the perennial all the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA level assisting Tyrese Halliburton. So the Celtics and the

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<v Speaker 1>Pacers spread the wealth around almost they're the only ones

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<v Speaker 1>in the league that spread the wealth around as much

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<v Speaker 1>as the Pelicans do. And there's not really an easy

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<v Speaker 1>path home in the West because there's just so many

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<v Speaker 1>good teams. But at least the Pelicans aren't facing any

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<v Speaker 1>tougher road than anyone else. They have Detroit, Brooklyn, and

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta out of the East for the six worst teams

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<v Speaker 1>in their conference. They play against Portland twice and San

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio once in the West, So that's six teams against

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<v Speaker 1>grave dwellers, teams that we know are at the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>in the basement. No Tree, Young, these teams suck. If

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<v Speaker 1>they finish five hundred against the rest of the league

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<v Speaker 1>and five and one against the bottom basement dwellers, they

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<v Speaker 1>will have fifty wins and will be fighting for the

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<v Speaker 1>four spot. And I promise you teams like the Suns

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<v Speaker 1>are terrified, are shook of playing the Pelicans. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>them take the Suns to seven without Zion. What are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to be able to do if the Suns

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<v Speaker 1>creep in and they play each other in a play

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<v Speaker 1>in tournament, or they play each other in the second round.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Sons probably getting to the second round, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know that this is a team not being taken

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<v Speaker 1>lightly and a team that no contender really wants to

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<v Speaker 1>play in the first round, especially a team like the Kings,

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<v Speaker 1>the Suns, and maybe even the Nuggets as long as

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<v Speaker 1>they're healthy. The Pelicans could be a problem, but they

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<v Speaker 1>still have a lot to moving on to a second

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<v Speaker 1>team that I think has a lot to prove, a

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<v Speaker 1>team that people have been waffling and wavering on all

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<v Speaker 1>season long, including myself. But I have a message as

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<v Speaker 1>a lifelong fan of our Dubs. I'm here to tell

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<v Speaker 1>dub Nation, do not panic. Do not panic, dub Nation,

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be okay. I know that the fifty point

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<v Speaker 1>plus beat down on Sunday at the hands of the

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<v Speaker 1>Boston Celtics in TD Garden was a tough pill to swallow.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that the fact that you put together a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive game plan fifteen minutes before the game. Probably not great.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized Steph coming out out after one of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst games of his career and say in a dejected voice,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we used to do to teams. Stings. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's stings. I know it's absolutely become a joke

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday morning radio. I know it sucks. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>look at this dispassionately. No Pods in this game. No

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Perjemski, the rookie, the guy who has found a

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<v Speaker 1>way to get significant minutes. This game illustrated completely why

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<v Speaker 1>PODS is so important in this iteration of Golden State,

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<v Speaker 1>this part of the timeline. Since February first, Pods has

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<v Speaker 1>put up eleven seven and six with a plus seven

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<v Speaker 1>point four per game net rating. The Warriors went eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and three in those games before you got Sideline two

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<v Speaker 1>games ago. That's pretty damn good. Eleven and three. Second

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<v Speaker 1>of all, it was the final game of a very

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<v Speaker 1>long ass road trip. Fifth game and eight days. You're

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<v Speaker 1>down two starters in the toughest building to win against

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<v Speaker 1>the historic offense at its peak one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven point rating in our last ten with really bulletin

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<v Speaker 1>board material. Hey, hey, we fucking hate them. They beat

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<v Speaker 1>us on our own home court and they won the championship.

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<v Speaker 1>So fans are probably overreacting to the massacre and saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Warriors are probably not even gonna make the playoffs. Not me, though,

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<v Speaker 1>Warriors ran into a perfect store. They just did long

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<v Speaker 1>before Steph went O nine in the first half. The

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<v Speaker 1>team just felt like it took the night off right. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, no one loves to say that, but Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Kurz said last week this Steph was already tired. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a chance Steph wasn't even gonna play in this

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<v Speaker 1>game until no Boston. Boston had no kristavs Porzingis, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, maybe we go win this one. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. It was a bad loss, historic loss, fifty

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<v Speaker 1>two point loss, was not even remotely close. Ever, the

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<v Speaker 1>Celtics were up eighty two thirty eight at half. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>I think they tied. They were tied twenty one to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, and then from there on it was an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute blood bath. Boston is cruising right now. They've won

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen to fourteen. One of the highest rating offenses in

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<v Speaker 1>all of history, the highest net rating sense our dubs

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty seventeen, So to lose even badly to Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>not the worst thing. So yeah, I know that the

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<v Speaker 1>Warriors have issues. Andrew Wiggins is supposed to be coming

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<v Speaker 1>back after missing four games for a very serious family emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>But that ass whipping at the hands of the Seas,

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<v Speaker 1>you can put that in your rear review mirror. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like no sense in dwelling on it. As they say

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<v Speaker 1>and used to say in Golden State, it's next man up,

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<v Speaker 1>next game up. And if this team can sneak into

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, they're gonna fuck a team up like the

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Timberwolves. You can just count on that. Let's move

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<v Speaker 1>on to the third team that needs to get their

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<v Speaker 1>shit together, a team that we don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>make of, a team that can look incredible on one

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<v Speaker 1>night and absolute buns on the next. What the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>is happening with the Sacramento Kings, Folks, our Kings. They

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<v Speaker 1>blew another huge leadership at home and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was at home. Kings were at the crib, Yes, if

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<v Speaker 1>they were in at home at Golden One blew another

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<v Speaker 1>huge lead at the crib. Bulls storm back from twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>down one thirteen to one oh nine. Kobe White was

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<v Speaker 1>putting up almost forty. Things are not okay in Sacramento,

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<v Speaker 1>as Kenny Carroway of Sacramento's Dilo and Casey Show, which

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<v Speaker 1>I love, I go on there every Tuesday, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>so check that out five pm Eastern Standard time Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, plan and simply put this shit is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. The Kings were up eighty nine to sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seven with three minutes left in the third, got outscored

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<v Speaker 1>forty six to twenty the rest of the way. Bulls.

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<v Speaker 1>Let Kobe White, Kobe, what listen. I know Kobe White's good,

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<v Speaker 1>like I know Kobe WIT's having a great year. But

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<v Speaker 1>you can't let Kobe White put thirty seven on your

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<v Speaker 1>dome piece. You let de Margarros and put up nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter alone. De Aeron Fox guarded Ioed

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<v Speaker 1>de Summu most of the game. Let him go off

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty. That's just unacceptable. Foxy twice his season average.

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<v Speaker 1>He's averaging ten points per game, puts up twenty and

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<v Speaker 1>according to the NBA, the Kings had a ninety nine

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<v Speaker 1>point six percent chance of winning the game. And somehow

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<v Speaker 1>found a way to lose. The Rosen outscored the entire

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<v Speaker 1>Kings team by him self, just disgusting stuff. The loss

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bulls follows the Kings blowing an eighteen points

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<v Speaker 1>second half lead to the Clippers and double deep digit

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<v Speaker 1>leads to both the Nuggets and the Heat in the

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<v Speaker 1>last two weeks alone seventh in the West. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>Kings are out of the playoff picture and in the

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<v Speaker 1>play in with the MAVs, Lakers, and Warriors, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like being thrown into an empty swimming pool with the

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<v Speaker 1>hungry lion. I tell you what, they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>play any of these teams in one game set. MAVs

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<v Speaker 1>are big, they're strong, to got Luca, Lakers, got Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>and AD tough matchup. Warriors. We already know what time

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<v Speaker 1>it is, our dubs, gross, you don't want this. How

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<v Speaker 1>do the Kings fix it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Time's running out. You gotta get the fuck on. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta make sure that the Suns slide down the rankings

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<v Speaker 1>and they go to the play in tournament and you

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<v Speaker 1>end up the sixth spot and hope to God that

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<v Speaker 1>Oka See makes the three spot. Hope to God you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see Denver in the first round. Kings

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<v Speaker 1>are currently twentieth in defensive rating, fourteenth in offensive rating.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kings were number one in the offensive rating

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<v Speaker 1>last year. A lot of it is that they're very

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<v Speaker 1>sloppy with the ball. Kings rate thirteenth in turnover percentage.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is just not this is just not

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<v Speaker 1>a team that you really want to back right now,

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<v Speaker 1>These are not contending stats. They need to turn up

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<v Speaker 1>the noise right now before it gets early late, before

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<v Speaker 1>it gets late early, right before it gets late early.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. Anyway. Bill Ryder also joins

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<v Speaker 1>us later in the show. He dropped this factoid in

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<v Speaker 1>our interview. No NBA team has won a Chip this

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<v Speaker 1>century without being a top ten defense and a top

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<v Speaker 1>ten offense. So the Kings have to change a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>They want a legit chance to do anything come playoff time.

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<v Speaker 1>The real issue is that the Kings just cannot shoot

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<v Speaker 1>at all. They're eleventh per in field goal percent dead

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<v Speaker 1>last though an NBA free throw percentage, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>even bigger problem because two of their worst free throw

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<v Speaker 1>shooters are their marquee guys, the guys that actually have

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in their hands when it's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>brunch time. Fox and sabonas two guys that get to

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<v Speaker 1>the line a lot. I tweeted this out. In his

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<v Speaker 1>last nine games, Darren Fox is shooting sixty two point

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<v Speaker 1>five percent from the free throw line, and in his

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<v Speaker 1>last nine Domas is shooting seventy percent from the free

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<v Speaker 1>throw line. Pretty hard to close out wins when your

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<v Speaker 1>two best players aren't good from the charity stripe. NBA

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<v Speaker 1>guru John Hollinger quote tweeted it with this, hadn't really

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<v Speaker 1>internalized how much the Kings suck from the line this year,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly twenty percentage points worse than number twenty nine Toronto

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<v Speaker 1>cost them about one point one points per game relative

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<v Speaker 1>to the league average. And there's no shock here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just Fox and Sabonis are seventy percent and nobody else

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<v Speaker 1>draws fouls. That folks is an issue, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>one that's easily solved. It's just not Since two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and six, no team has won a chance beian ships

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<v Speaker 1>shooting free throws below seventy three percent. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that we thought that the Kings were gonna win a

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<v Speaker 1>championship this year because we don't think that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean God got to get better at that along the

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<v Speaker 1>way to get to be a contender. It is very

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<v Speaker 1>critical to make free throws in close games that you're

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<v Speaker 1>bound to play in the playoffs. Remember, like the Warriors,

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<v Speaker 1>all those games were close. We're gonna know everything about

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<v Speaker 1>this King's team. In the next two weeks they played

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<v Speaker 1>nine games. Only two of those games against top four teams.

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<v Speaker 1>For those games are against bottom eight teams. The way

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<v Speaker 1>that the Kings have been doing with bad teams. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a do or die moment for the Kings. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>move on just a little news from around the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting in Brooklyn, Ben simmons saga continues to unfold on

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<v Speaker 1>the bench, getting his fits off, looking like a runway model. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Ben Simmons has played in fifty seven of one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty one possible games in Brooklyn. He has

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<v Speaker 1>been getting murdered in the streets. Agent has stepped up

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<v Speaker 1>to the line of the fire and taken responsibility. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>right now Ben is being protected by Bernie Lee. Then

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie Lee also represent Jimmy Butler. At one point, he

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely seeing the road rising up to meet him

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<v Speaker 1>because Ben's Monster contract runs out next year. Bernie Lee

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<v Speaker 1>basically said, hey, don't blame Ben, play me. Blame me

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<v Speaker 1>for this. He said this. When I began working with Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>I made a commitment to him that I would do

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<v Speaker 1>everything that I could to find the right answers and

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<v Speaker 1>specialists for him to work with in order to move

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<v Speaker 1>forward from the issues he has been having. Clearly it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't happened, and that's my responsibility. He then, of course

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<v Speaker 1>went on blah blah blah. Don't you see Ben in

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<v Speaker 1>the gym, He's working, he's sweating. Don't you see him

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<v Speaker 1>in the off season his rehab. He's only taken seven

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<v Speaker 1>days off in the past calendar year.

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<v Speaker 2>Eh.

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<v Speaker 1>He then said this, come the off season, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to implement some processes and outside input that allow him

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<v Speaker 1>to finally move forward from this ongoing issue and resume

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<v Speaker 1>his career at the level he's established prior to being injured. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't buy it. Someone's already laying the groundwork

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<v Speaker 1>for a new contract bet on Ben to have a

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<v Speaker 1>monster bounce back here next year. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Ben will ever play meaningful basketball again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's just not gonna happen. Unfortunately for Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to hear it, sorry to hear that his

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<v Speaker 1>back issues continue to flare up. But for Ben, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a wrap. All right, Let's move on. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>little breaking news, tiny bit of breaking news out of

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<v Speaker 1>Miami where the Heat signed Patty Mills. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>what in the gort drugage is happening right now? He

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<v Speaker 1>gets bought out by Atlanta and landed on the North Beach.

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<v Speaker 1>He's shooting thirty eight Really, South Beach, they're shooting thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight percent from three. Another valuable vet off the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>You can fill in for those Gabe Vincent minutes that

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<v Speaker 1>they've been lacking, those Kyle Lowry minutes that they were

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to get. Terry Rosier and Patty Mills, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>are not damn lollard at all, but they might be

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<v Speaker 1>enough for the Heat to become real serious threats moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what time it is. Eric Spotzer finds a

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<v Speaker 1>way to win with the players that he has. Although

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<v Speaker 1>I have a love hate relationship with Miami, I just

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<v Speaker 1>hate the Celtics so much more so I'm counting on

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<v Speaker 1>them I'm counting on them to take the Celtics out

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs, and a sniper like Patty Mills makes

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<v Speaker 1>it just a tiny bit more likely, even though he

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<v Speaker 1>is old as me. Moving on a little injury update,

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<v Speaker 1>Scottie Barnes, who broke his finger last week, underwent surgery

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<v Speaker 1>to fix the broken digit. Ryan Wollstatt, friend of show.

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<v Speaker 1>He tweeted, I'm not doctor Waws, but that should mean

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<v Speaker 1>his season is done, damn, which is sad. Really, Scotty

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<v Speaker 1>Barnes was playing awesome. He took another step forward this year.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an All Star, the team became one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent his after Sakham trade. He goes down for the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a serious injury, but still not a great injury

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<v Speaker 1>for a Toronto team that was trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>a way to sneak into the play in picture, no

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<v Speaker 1>reason to watch the Toronto Raptors now at all besides

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<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel Quickly, which is pretty sad. Also, Russell Westbrook had

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<v Speaker 1>hand surgery for a fractured left hand. Unlike the Raptors,

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers are gonna be playing for a playoff basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's hope that he might turn around. But honestly, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how good has Russell Westbrook really been? He's been turning

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<v Speaker 1>the ball over a lot. We might seem optimistic in

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<v Speaker 1>his timetable, but listen, Rusk gets back in record time

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<v Speaker 1>because he's such a freak physical marvel. It's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>surprise me if he is back by game two, game three.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving forward, on another injury, Donovan Mitchell. He's had knee

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<v Speaker 1>issues that have sidelined him for thirteen games this season,

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<v Speaker 1>and this week Donovan had PRP treatment. Platelet rich plasma

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<v Speaker 1>treatment is a simple but very painful process. Doctor draws

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<v Speaker 1>blood which is then put into a centrifuge, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a spinny thing, and then that makes the PRP. It

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<v Speaker 1>spins it really really fast. And then I'm like, because PRP,

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<v Speaker 1>that's scientific term. PRP contains a mixture of concentrated platelets

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<v Speaker 1>including cyto kens and growth factors, which helps as an

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<v Speaker 1>anti inflammatory. Kobe used to do this in Germany a lot. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>it expedites the healing process. He is going to miss

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<v Speaker 1>at least three more games, which means he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be eligible for all NBA, but more importantly, he

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<v Speaker 1>might be out longer as he won't be reevaluated for

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<v Speaker 1>an entire week. Cleveland without Donovan very beatable, very beatable.

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<v Speaker 1>Sooner he gets back, the better. Now we turn to

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<v Speaker 1>an interview with my friend Bill Ryder CBS sports radio

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<v Speaker 1>show Righter Than You, which airs ten am to noon Eastern.

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<v Speaker 1>That's seven am his time. Wow, he's getting up early

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<v Speaker 1>on the CBS Sports radio network. Bill appeared on my

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<v Speaker 1>radio show bet MGM Tonight, joined by my co host

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Ashew. You can find my show BETMGM Tonight from

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<v Speaker 1>seven pm to eleven pm Eastern in most major markets,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as YouTube and Twitch and the Odyssey app.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump right into it, Bill, as as sharp as

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<v Speaker 1>they come and as plugged in as they come. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into it. I think you and I are

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<v Speaker 1>both somewhat cynical about what we see in basketball, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just know the psychological element's gonna come into play

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<v Speaker 1>with the Timberwolves. We saw though, Bill, there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of anti Nuggets slander this year. Was it a

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<v Speaker 1>flash in the pan. They don't do anything right statistically,

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, you know, like only top ten but not

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<v Speaker 1>top five in anything. But we saw this week against

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers, in winning time that when they want to

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<v Speaker 1>turn things on, nine ozer runs just like that. Celtics

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<v Speaker 1>they go up against the Warriors, all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>they're up fifty. Who do you like and like, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you get out of those two games this weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it feeling like just a crash course in those

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<v Speaker 1>two ending up against one another in the finals?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Look, I love the Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually like I have more confidence in Denver making

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<v Speaker 3>the fire than I do the Celtics. That's probably the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong take. I just have more skepticism. And we could

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<v Speaker 3>get into why on Jason Tatum in big games and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a question mark, it's not a certainty.

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<v Speaker 3>People had question marks about Joker last year and he

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<v Speaker 3>answered him And I've got questions about Missoula. For me,

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<v Speaker 3>Denver is what what did parcels say? People tell you

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<v Speaker 3>who they are. Listen, Djokovic has told us for forever.

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<v Speaker 3>He has told us for his entries. I say joke,

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about tennis for his entire career that

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't care about the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't really want to play basketball in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 3>And you said it in those rare moments, they just

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<v Speaker 3>want an NBA Championship, where he feels frustrated, where he

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<v Speaker 3>is motivated, where he thinks of Anthony Davis talking smack

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<v Speaker 3>in the offseason, like we want those guys there. They've

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<v Speaker 3>shown what they're about. I think Denver is head and

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<v Speaker 3>shoulders above everybody in the West. I know the West

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<v Speaker 3>is tough. We can get in some of the reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>The thunder amazing, the predictive models. Vegas loves them, the analytics,

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers, the eye tests.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think they're too young. The Clippers have injury histories.

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<v Speaker 3>The three teams I've betting on, the songs of the

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<v Speaker 3>Lakers and the Warriors, I think are really interesting to

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of upside, but they obviously are extremely flawed.

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<v Speaker 3>You put it all together, if Jamal Murray and his

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<v Speaker 3>co star are out there together, if Nikola and Jamal

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<v Speaker 3>are playing, they're the best team at least in the

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<v Speaker 3>Western Conference. And I think they Yeah, I think We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to Denver for the finals, and I guess I'm

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<v Speaker 3>less sure on Boston.

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds to me like, even though they're both very young,

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<v Speaker 4>teams kind of having taken that next step this year.

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<v Speaker 4>The Timberwolves and the Thunder. There's definitely more of a

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<v Speaker 4>confidence that you have in the Thunder than the Timberwolves

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<v Speaker 4>to actually make some noise in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah for me, I mean, there's a few things here

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<v Speaker 3>right like one, and this is just a statistical reality

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<v Speaker 3>with a couple exceptions in the last thirty years. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're looking for if you like the gamble but you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to do the research, a very easy cheat

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<v Speaker 3>sheet is who's in.

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<v Speaker 2>The top ten and offensive and defensive rating?

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<v Speaker 3>Bet on make sure whatever team you're betting to go

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<v Speaker 3>the whole way fits those parameters. In fact, there was

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<v Speaker 3>one year that I didn't do this and only one

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<v Speaker 3>team qualified. I thought, ah, the Toronto Raptors aren't winning

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<v Speaker 3>the NBA Championship this year, and they got some help

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<v Speaker 3>along the way with injuries in that series against the Warriors,

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<v Speaker 3>but they still won. I mean, it was a missed

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity by me. And Oklahoma City on any given night

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<v Speaker 3>is fourth or fifth in offensive and defensive rating. They're

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<v Speaker 3>not just typically top ten and each their top five,

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<v Speaker 3>so they have that balance. SGA is an absolute MVP

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<v Speaker 3>candidate and a superstar. Depth isn't quite as important, but

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<v Speaker 3>they have depth they're obviously young and athletic. The youth

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<v Speaker 3>is a problem for me. For me on the Timberwolves,

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<v Speaker 3>they are not balanced. They are outstanding defensively, but they're

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<v Speaker 3>inconsistent offensively. And I don't know what the numbers are

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 3>right now, guys, they're probably fifteen. They're sixteenth or seventeenth

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:34.600
<v Speaker 3>right now in offensive rating. And Rudy Gobert in that

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 3>trade is no longer a joke and it's worked out.

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<v Speaker 3>But we have seen Gobert in the postseason for a

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<v Speaker 3>variety of reasons, not be as effective. Teams can attack them,

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 3>they can pull them away from the rim. There's a

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 3>lot of things you can do against Karl Anthony Towns,

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<v Speaker 3>especially the pick and roll. Let's say it's the Warriors

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:51.640
<v Speaker 3>in a matchup. So I just think when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at how the thunder are built, I buy them for

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 3>basketball mid April and beyond, and the way Minnesota is built,

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't. And so I'm in agreement. I'm not a

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Karl Anthony Towns believer. Maybe I'm cynical, maybe I'm candid.

0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's all of those things. I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 3>a reliable star.

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<v Speaker 2>So you add it all up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the Timberwolves are very, very vulnerable for

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 3>a team that's got a pretty good record.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill, I want to talk about this Bucks team because

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>they're coming back on the lake on the Clippers right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But after the All Star Break, they've been really good

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of defensive rating. Offensively, things are still kind

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 1>of working themselves out, but they've beaten some teams. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at who they've beaten after that Grizzlies loss,

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<v Speaker 1>the only real quality win that they had was against

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>those Timberwolves. They beat the Sixers without Embiid. They beat

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the Hornets twice, and I guess you could call the

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Bulls a nine seed a quality win because they beat

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>him in Chicago and now they're losing to the Clippers.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the Bucks actually figured things out to you or

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<v Speaker 1>is this new thing about the soft schedule that they've had.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, and I want to talk myself in to it,

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 3>because when MB's healthy and along with Jokichianas is as

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 3>good and impactful as anybody on earth, and when you

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 3>have the best player on any given night, you should

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<v Speaker 3>be able to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Full disclosure, that radio show that I host has a

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 3>segment at the end of the week where we make

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 3>somebody the bum of the week. Every week, someone's the

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 3>bum of the Week on Friday. I think we have

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 3>had eight weeks and I think I've made it Doc

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<v Speaker 3>Rivers four or five times. So just so there's a

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 3>little perspective or bias or whatever you want to call it.

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:28.640
<v Speaker 3>I am the world's biggest Doc Rivers doubter, and I

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<v Speaker 3>really like that Bucks organization.

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 2>I know people in the front office. I like them.

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm from that part of the country. I love Jiannis.

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 3>When they hired Doc Rivers, a very significant part of

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 3>me died inside, just shriveled up and went away because

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe in doc Rivers. But that's really a

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 3>postseason level of doubt, not regular season. But I don't

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 3>think even in the regular season that they have.

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<v Speaker 2>Figured it out.

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 3>They have not been consistently excellent. They have had some

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 3>fine wins, and I think there's a lot going on here.

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 3>They obviously fired Adrian Griffin. Something was wrong there. He

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 3>had an outstanding record. Damian hasn't worked out and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's talked really candidly, and this is human stuff.

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 3>But it impacts work for everybody. Including ballplayers, basketball players.

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 3>The guy's miserable and he's lonely, and he's telling Chris

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 3>Mannix that he's lonely and he's going through a divorce

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:12.159
<v Speaker 3>and none of his friends and family are there. He

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 3>doesn't like Milwaukee and he wanted to clearly be in Miami.

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 3>And I think you've got a lot of angst and

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 3>pressure on this team and organization the front office is

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 3>I understand, it feels like they're under the gun, even

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 3>if they're not the ones who brought in Doc. Doc's

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 3>got this long term contract, but he's become a walking

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:29.199
<v Speaker 3>joke and a meme. So I think a lot of

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 3>the stress, the pressure of the expectations, the sense that

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 3>they're a disaster has stayed with this team even as

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 3>they played better basketball. And when I look at what

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:40.199
<v Speaker 3>they're about, they're defensively, especially on the perimeter, they're just

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 3>they're not good enough. Pap Bev is not the solution.

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Doc Rivers is not an offensive genius. We get into

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 3>the reasons why, but suffice it to say, I think

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 3>he limits offensive output on teams that are talented, and.

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>They have not been good enough defensively to make up

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<v Speaker 2>for that. I'm very worried about Milwaukee.

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>As it stands now Bill, if this playoff started today

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and everything remain the same, the Heat, the Heat would

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>play the Bucks again in the first round. And you

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the angst and the front office that you've spoken to,

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and Giannis has been candid about needing to compete for

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 1>a championship, as has Dame. What happens if they were

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>to draw the Heat and lose in the first round

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 1>for the second year in a row.

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I look that East has a bunch

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 3>of land mines, And I know it's sort of a cliche,

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 3>but I'm in on the Heat at least in a

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 3>series like that. Who knows what the line would be

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 3>here the numbers, but I just think they playoff. Basketball

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 3>is a real thing for a lot of reasons, like

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 3>the whole Heat culture thing in the postseason.

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's a reasonable outcome if they played

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 2>each other. What happens? So I think John Horst, the GM.

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Who I think is very good at his job, I

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:45.679
<v Speaker 3>think he's I think he probably gets fired. I mean,

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 3>I'm speculating here. I don't know, and it's not like

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm sourced with the owners. I mean that's a really

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 3>unless you're Asrian Worzanowski, you tend not to be.

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 2>But I would. I think the front office would be

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of trouble. I think it would be.

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Really we've seen Damian Lillard.

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Force his way out of poor I don't know that

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 3>that would happen in Milwaukee, but he is already. He's

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 3>saying repeatedly and I think strategically that he's miserable, which

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 3>I know some people around the NBA are just interested in.

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Is he laying the groundwork for frustration? And I think

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 3>the idea Giannis is going to be there forever is

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 3>predicated only as you noted, on the idea that they're

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 3>going to compete for championships. So that's a long winded

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 3>way of saying it would be a well, my kids

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 3>say what's appropriate for a poopstorm. It would be an

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 3>absolute disaster. It would be an absolute poop storm. I

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 3>don't know who goes away. I just know Doc Rivers

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 3>never takes the blame he managed up with that organization's

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 3>ownership group. As I understand it, I'm not convinced the

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 3>front office was one hundred percent the force.

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 2>That brought him in.

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 3>I think Doc has a lot of juice there. Doc

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 3>is never the guy that's blamed, not in the short term.

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 3>So I think you see changes in frustrations, and I

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 3>think you see an organization that's in a pretty tough

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 3>shape just in terms of their culture and their planning.

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 3>If they lose in the first round to a team

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 3>like the.

0:28:56.840 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 4>Miami we're kind of sitting here waiting for that next

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 4>What star is gonna ask out of what place? If

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 4>it's not anything in Milwaukee. I mean, what does Dallas

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 4>need to do this season, this postseason to keep Luca

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 4>from looking around going like, I guess I got Kyrie,

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 4>but like at some point you think he's probably gonna

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 4>be unhappy, if he's not already unhappy.

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 3>I know that there are some I have talked to

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 3>some gns and some front office people who it's speculative,

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 3>but who are licking their chops at the idea of

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 3>disaster in Dallas. So that so that Luke would make

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 3>himself available, because obviously he made that run to the

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 3>conference finals that was amazing. But that's the only time

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 3>that Mavericks team has been out of the first round

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 3>with Luka Dancic. So what do they have to do.

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 3>It's a really good question, and the West is brutal.

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they'll accomplish whatever the standard is. I

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 3>think the second round, you make the second round depends

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 3>on the matchup, right, But if you're I mean, if

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 3>you're going down against a team like the thunder, who

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 3>I think, again are really really good. I don't know

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 3>they go all the way, but a really good or

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 3>even a healthy Clippers team, and obviously Denver I still

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 3>think is the best.

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Team in the Western Conference.

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 3>And you know you're losing six or seven, hard fought

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 3>it went well, Maybe you got to add some pieces,

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 3>or you got to make some adjustments.

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Next year, maybe things are okay.

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 3>I think if you lose in the first round, which

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 3>is a very very likely outcome, I think for Dallas,

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 3>I think you're right. I think Luka Doncic maybe this year,

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 3>maybe next year, who knows, there's at least a concern

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 3>of the Mavericks that.

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>He decides he doesn't want to be there. Maybe not.

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to get to crawl into the brain of

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 3>a superstar, but I think it's a good point. I

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 3>think both those organizations, and more so Dallas, because they

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 3>have obviously not won a championship with their current superstar,

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 3>unlike the Bucks. If they can at least convince Luca

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 3>that the plan they haven't placed Kyrie Irvering plus the

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 3>guys that got at the trade deadline, and what they

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 3>have is a viable path forward.

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 2>We know in the NBA anngs can turn the demands

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly.

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you mentioned Okay c Bill. Obviously they're fighting

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to be in the number one seed, but they've got Chet.

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>He seems to be having a real impact. I saw

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the Wemby versus Chet matchup. Wemby's been very clear he

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>wants to win now. I've I've heard some rumors. I've

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>heard some bubbling about a Trey Young marriage. What are

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>you hearing about Atlanta and what they may do?

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, it's a great question.

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 3>So my understanding, I think we talked about this a

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 3>year ago and Quinn Snyder got hired at a really

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 3>weird time at the end of the season. Having done

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 3>some reporting with folks in that front office and people

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 3>familiar with their thinking, my understanding was Quinn Snyder had

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:24.239
<v Speaker 3>the power when he came in.

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Part of the reason he.

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Took the job to make an evaluation on anybody, including

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Trey Young, and that he was.

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Going to take that time and if he wanted to move.

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>On from Tray he would, And as I understand it,

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 3>that has gone from an academic possibility to a real

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 3>possibility this summer. Now, the problem I think for San

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Antonio is you got to convince Trey Young that he

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 3>wants to be there for the same reason you got

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 3>to keep Daman Lillard happy or Luka Dancic right or wrong,

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:47.479
<v Speaker 3>whatever you think of it.

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 2>The reality is the brass tacks of.

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Being an NBA GM front office person is if your

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 3>star wants to.

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Leave, they get to lead. That's just the way that

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 2>then it works. So I think the Lakers and Trey

0:31:58.240 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Young make a lot more sense. And I know that

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 2>is a in Bolk Trey Young and the Lakers. I

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 2>talked about it, or at least eyed.

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 4>I think that, yeah, it's been It's been thrown around

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 4>a lot, that's for sure. Bill Ryders CBS Sports, CBS

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 4>Sports Radio soon to be NBA.

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Podcast as well. Be on the lookout for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Love having you on man. Appreciate the time, good es.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate winter as well. But next time, you little

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<v Speaker 1>shut in, turn on a podcast while you're inside heat

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<v Speaker 1>Check podcast. It's good. Oh also call my mom tell

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<v Speaker 1>her to listen to it too, Mom, listen to my

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<v Speaker 1>fucking podcast. And don't forget to follow us at at

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<v Speaker 1>this heat Check and address to Criick on TikTok, Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>and Instagram. Oh yeah, now YouTube, because we got that

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<v Speaker 1>mother fuck it back after a six months time.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see