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Speaker 1: to a great, great start here. It's an hour two

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Speaker 1: on this Monday, Dan and the Dan Ns Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 1: More phone calls, best and worst to the weekend. Whole

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Speaker 1: question has to do with the most disappointing loss Bills, Packers, Titans, Falcons, Vikings.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's a two horse race or two race

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Speaker 1: horse or two horse racing. It's Bills and the Packers.

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Speaker 1: I guess now, I mean the Bills lost at home

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Speaker 1: to the Steelers. Packers got embarrassed on the road at

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Speaker 1: a neutral site against the Saints. The Packers are going

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Speaker 1: to win this because of how embarrassing they play. The

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Speaker 1: Bills playing a playoff caliber team in Pittsburgh. Man, the

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Speaker 1: hype is so big around Buffalo. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you look at any of these losses and go, you

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Speaker 1: know what that is really concerning? That's going to continue.

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Speaker 1: The Titans getting blown out at home against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: That was surprising to me. Now, maybe I've overrated the Titans,

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Speaker 1: but I do like them a lot. Packers losing not

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Speaker 1: surprised how they lost, very surprised the Bills losing at home.

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Speaker 1: I'm not shocked by that, but sometimes it's how you

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Speaker 1: lose that stands out. You know, the Cleveland Browns, they

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Speaker 1: had that game. They should have won that game, but

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Speaker 1: then you have just a couple of mistakes there, a

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Speaker 1: botched punt. The Patriots, they had that game. All you

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Speaker 1: got to do is hold on to the football. You're

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Speaker 1: in field goal range. You're going to win this. But

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Speaker 1: we're gonna look back and you know these teams that

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Speaker 1: are eight and eight, and you know you need to

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Speaker 1: go nine and eight to make the playoffs, and you're

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Speaker 1: going to look back to some of these games early

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Speaker 1: in the season. We tend to add more emphasis later

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Speaker 1: in the season. We forget about games like this where

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Speaker 1: you go, oh, that's right, they lost that game to

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Speaker 1: that team in Week two. But what we all with

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Speaker 1: the Packers, given all the drama in the offseason, this

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be here's you know, Aaron Rodgers again,

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Speaker 1: you know he's motivated. The motivational tour did not get

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Speaker 1: off to a good start. The Titans got embarrassed the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: How they lost to the Eagles, But we don't have

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Speaker 1: high hopes for the Falcons Vikings losing to the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at that. Um, don't know if there's

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Speaker 1: any other teams in there, Micheleven. You know the Texans

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Speaker 1: beating the Jags the way they beat them? Um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: why do we switch the most surprising wins on the

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Speaker 1: positive sets? Okay? Is it the Texans? Yeah, but it

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Speaker 1: might be the same thing that the Saints blew out

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Speaker 1: the Packers, or that the Steelers beat Buffalo and Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I think the Texans might give everybody a run in

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Speaker 1: this poll. Yeah, uh yeah. Pol Cardinals handling the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Titans usually are in every game. That's a I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the line is, but I'm guessing the Titans

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Speaker 1: were favorite. Yeah they have to be. Yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals handled that, I know. And and Chandler Jones

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Speaker 1: had five sacks. I think he forced a couple of

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Speaker 1: fumbles in there as well. I mean, that's his dominating

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Speaker 1: of a performance as we've seen in a long time.

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Speaker 1: And this is a guy who's not happy with his contract,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't think he wanted to stay in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: He has over one hundred He's got one hundred and

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Speaker 1: two sacks in one hundred twenty five career regular season games.

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones has one hundred and two sacks thirty five

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Speaker 1: in his first four seasons in New England, now sixty

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Speaker 1: six in five years in Arizona. Well, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: He had five yesterday. He forced two fumbles. He had

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Speaker 1: three sacks in the first quarter. Yeah. See, did you

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Speaker 1: see Taylor Lawan? Yeah, thank thanks for exposing me. I

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Speaker 1: need to be better. Yeah, five sack day. He posted that. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I got my butt kicked and it'll just

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Speaker 1: motivate me. Yeah, Paul, it shouldn't even prepared for Chandler

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Speaker 1: Jones a week ago. I mean, it's not like this

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Speaker 1: guy snuck up on it. Hey, challenger Joe pretty goodall player.

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Speaker 1: He just said. That's why when Matt Lafloor said, hey,

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Speaker 1: they were more motivated than us. What if I'm Taylor Lawe,

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Speaker 1: I don't post that because there's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: mcclem it's Chandler. Joe's like a Hall of Fame. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't. I don't know. It's it's tricky

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Speaker 1: when we look at these sack numbers. Now, now you're

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Speaker 1: adding an extra game, the proliferation of passing in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: more opportunities to get sacked. I mean, imagine if you

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Speaker 1: had Hall of Fame careers. But now you're throwing fifty

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I don't think Chandler Jones a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer, but you're gonna get up to numbers that

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Speaker 1: people can't ignore what you did. Yeah, but he never

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Speaker 1: gets any attention. You know, he shadowed his brother, John Jones,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Todd, we had Chandler Jones on. Probably

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Speaker 1: maybe one time. We've had his brother on. Yeah. Pay

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Speaker 1: he had a great start with the Patriots, but then

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Speaker 1: he got in some off field trouble and then the

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Speaker 1: Patriots decided to move on from him. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to rehash it because he was not convicted of anything,

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Speaker 1: It was a mixed day for rookie quarterbacks. The three

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Speaker 1: and they should have won that game. Trey Lance saw

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Speaker 1: the Bears lost to the Rams last night. But fans

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Speaker 1: would be smart to set the right expectations for these rookies.

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Speaker 1: Winning not necessarily important now you want to, particularly if

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Speaker 1: you're on a playoff caliber team. You know Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: should be watching for is development. We had Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: moment during the season last year where it's it sort

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Speaker 1: got hurt. But when it comes to these rookies, you

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Speaker 1: got to have patience. Although teams don't, analysts don't, fans don't,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson. Mac Jones is on a

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Speaker 1: better team. Justin Fields is on a better team, Trey

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Speaker 1: just feels like that could detonate in Jacksonville. It just

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Speaker 1: seems to be chatter, whispers. A story came out on

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Speaker 1: and yelling at players. And these are just little things.

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Speaker 1: I mean Tyrod Taylor was carving him up like he

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Speaker 1: did not see that. Some phone calls, Yes, Paulie, you're

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Speaker 1: not saying you could see a one and done situation

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Speaker 1: game in his career high school, in college, they were

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Speaker 1: all postseason games. Now, I mean, get ready, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it just feels like these these and these veterans, don't

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Speaker 1: the same cloth. Well, you know, Nick's as if he

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Speaker 1: stayed in the NFL. It's just these guys are used

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Speaker 1: he was a little bit more happy. But maybe what

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Speaker 1: we want from an Aaron Rodgers is a pissed off

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Maybe maybe that's what he needs to get

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Speaker 1: the best out of himself and then get the best

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Speaker 1: out of his teammates, because what we saw of Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers was not what I recognized as an Aaron Rodgers performance.

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Speaker 1: When you have a rookie quarterback, what's that like for

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Speaker 1: the offensive lineman of knowing what your job is or

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Speaker 1: how does that job change when you have a rookie quarterback, Well,

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Speaker 1: it makes your job a lot harder because, like I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever given up a sack because

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Speaker 1: the quarterback was in the wrong spot on every single

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Speaker 1: one of those sacks. But that's the issue with a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, and we saw it a little bit with

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Speaker 1: right spot because they dropped too deep, their footwork wasn't right,

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Speaker 1: or they're holding out of the ball too long, they're

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Speaker 1: not going through the Progrussians the right way. And so

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Speaker 1: you deal with all those things as rookies because they

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Speaker 1: got so much on that play. The quarterback position has

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Speaker 1: the most to learn out of any position in the

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Speaker 1: NFL by far, and it's so much of it as

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Speaker 1: decision making, getting the football at on time, and so

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Speaker 1: a lot of times when they're thinking about what's the

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Speaker 1: coverage doing, what's the pressure? Do I need to change

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Speaker 1: the protection, they forget about some of the little details that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm supposed to take five steps and not seven.

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Speaker 1: If I hit my seventh step, I need to step

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Speaker 1: up and I need to hitch up because otherwise I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be standing at ten and a half yards and

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Speaker 1: the line is blocking for a spot at nine yards,

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Speaker 1: and so as a linement, it's the worst feeling in

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Speaker 1: the world where your guy turns and runs a field

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Speaker 1: and you turn and you feel like you're running them

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Speaker 1: by and all of a sudden, out of the corner

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Speaker 1: of my left eye, I can see the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: he's standing not where he's supposed to be, and I'm like, oh, crap,

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Speaker 1: I gotta turn the jets on to try to push

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Speaker 1: this guy pass. But at that point it's already too late.

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Speaker 1: So it's just part of dealing with a rookie. A

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Speaker 1: young quarterback is dealing with those moments where he didn't

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Speaker 1: do what he was supposed to do. But that's sort

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Speaker 1: of the cost of doing business with the rookie. If

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Speaker 1: you're blocking for Ben Roethlisberger or you're blocking for somebody

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Speaker 1: who has some mobility, like the difference in you know,

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Speaker 1: because Buffalo didn't get to Ben Roethlisberger yesterday and he's

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Speaker 1: not moving, he'd not running out running anybody. You know,

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Speaker 1: the different philosophy that you have when you have somebody

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Speaker 1: who has some elusive moves there as opposed to a

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Speaker 1: stationary Yeah, when you have a quarterback that's elusive, like

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Speaker 1: a Russell Wilson, Josh Allen, those guys, Patrick Mahomes, you know,

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Speaker 1: you can't have that internal clock where Okay, I know

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Speaker 1: the ball's supposed to be thrown, I gotta turn and

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Speaker 1: run and chase the football and try to get downfield

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Speaker 1: in case there's a fumble or in case they need

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Speaker 1: to peel a guy off the pile. What you're doing

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Speaker 1: much more now is you're reacting to whatever your defensive

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Speaker 1: player is doing. It's a little bit like when you're

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Speaker 1: playing defensive back in man coverage and you're following your guy.

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Speaker 1: You're watching his eyes because you can't see the football,

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Speaker 1: you can't see what's going on behind you. Same thing

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Speaker 1: as an offensive tackle. I'm watching that defensive end and

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Speaker 1: I'm queuing off of his eyes. As soon as his

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Speaker 1: eyes go this way, boom, I got to chase him

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Speaker 1: because there's a good chance that all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has extended to play and he's running out

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Speaker 1: of the pocket, and I got to do whatever I

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Speaker 1: can by hook or by crook to get my head

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Speaker 1: in front of this guy and get one last shove

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Speaker 1: to be able to give Russell that half a second.

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Speaker 1: Then he needs to go hit Tyler Lockett down the

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Speaker 1: field for that big play. So it's much different than

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Speaker 1: you gotta Ben Roethlisberger. You got those older quarterbacks who

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Speaker 1: are much more This is where I'm gonna be. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be right where they're supposed to be. And once

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Speaker 1: your guy turns and runs down the field, you know

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Speaker 1: the ball has been delivered. It's not like Ben's scrambling back.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to make plays with his feet. When you

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Speaker 1: have that college coach, successful coach who goes into the NFL,

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, what's the wrong thing for that college coach

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Speaker 1: to do once against too an NFL locker room? The

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Speaker 1: one wrong thing? I think we're seeing a lot of

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Speaker 1: the wrong things and a lot of the difficulties from Urban. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think the hardest thing for Urban Meyer is that

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Speaker 1: he had no NFL experience, and so the hardest thing

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Speaker 1: then is hiring your staff. And there were some whispers

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Speaker 1: coming out this week already that there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of friction between the guys that he brought in from

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Speaker 1: college that he was comfort with, that he had a

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Speaker 1: relationship with, that he wasn't going to have to teach

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Speaker 1: every single thing that he wanted to those guys and

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Speaker 1: the guys that he brought in that had the NFL experience,

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Speaker 1: Because it is a different culture in the NFL and

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Speaker 1: in college, there is a lot of different concepts and

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Speaker 1: schemes and how you want to run your practice, how

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Speaker 1: you need to treat your players like a little bit

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Speaker 1: more like professionals like men to get the most out

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Speaker 1: of them. And so I think the learning curve is

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Speaker 1: already really steep when you're a coach that's spent most

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Speaker 1: of the time in college and you make that transition

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Speaker 1: to the pro game. We've seen it so many times.

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Speaker 1: But it's even worse when you have no NFL experience,

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Speaker 1: because typically you're putting in together a staff that has

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Speaker 1: half of the guys that are like your guys and

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Speaker 1: then half the guys that are NFL guys that you

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Speaker 1: don't really know but that have been recommended for you,

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Speaker 1: that you've hired without really having any relationship with, and

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of friction there. There's

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Speaker 1: going to be friction between the guys that were college

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Speaker 1: coaches that are trying to coach the NFL players like

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Speaker 1: they're still in college, where it's more about trying to

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Speaker 1: motivate them in a lot of different ways to get

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Speaker 1: them to play hard, Whereas in the NFL a lot

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Speaker 1: of those guys are self motivated and they're motivated by money,

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Speaker 1: they're motivated by feeding their family that are motivated because

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Speaker 1: they could get cut at any moment, and so I

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Speaker 1: think it's a lot more about teaching at the NFL

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Speaker 1: game and versus in colleges about motivating and developing and

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Speaker 1: just teaching the values and the fundamentals of football, hard work, toughness,

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Speaker 1: being on time. That doesn't really fly as much in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. You can see Joe Thomas the NFL Network's

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Speaker 1: NFL Game Day kick off Thursday at six Eastern ahead

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Speaker 1: of the Giants Washington game on Thursday Night Football. Do

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Speaker 1: you think Ron Rivera brings in Cam Newton. That's a

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Speaker 1: great question. I didn't hear what the injury situation to

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Speaker 1: the Big Beard man is. I know he heard his hip,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not sure how long he's out. I still

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Speaker 1: like Fitzpatrick with that team because that defense is so good.

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Speaker 1: I thought, I think he played pretty well yesterday, and

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Speaker 1: at this point it's difficult to bring in a quarterback

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Speaker 1: have them learn the entire offense and get on the

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Speaker 1: same page with your pass catchers unless you're going to

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Speaker 1: bring in Cam and say, hey, use your legs. We

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Speaker 1: don't want you to scramble and you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: change the offense a little bit more. It's more urpo

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Speaker 1: type stuff, quarterback power, doing some of the things that

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Speaker 1: he did in New England. Then maybe you think about it,

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Speaker 1: but I think if they're going to keep the same

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Speaker 1: offense and continue to just try to throw the football,

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Speaker 1: then I don't think it's a great fit. Good to

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Speaker 1: talk to is always Joe. We'll be watching on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. Awesome, Thanks Dan. That's Joe Thomas, NFL

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Speaker 1: Network analyst, former Brown's All Pro offensive tackle, and we'll

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Speaker 1: end up in Kenton in the Hall of Fame. Let's

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Speaker 1: go around the room. Best and Worst to the Weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'll start with Fritzie Todd. Best and Worst to the Weekend.

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Speaker 1: Best of the Weekend eighteen year old qualifier Emma Radu Kanu.

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Speaker 1: Want to make sure I pronounced that right, wins the

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Speaker 1: US Open, didn't lose even one set along the way,

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Speaker 1: Emma nineteenyear old Layla Fernando showed great maturity and poise

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Speaker 1: throughout the way they handled the media and the fans.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty awesome. Worst of the weekend

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Speaker 1: of giving it to Western Carolina and Alabama State, while

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Speaker 1: you ask the cat amounts lose to the Sooner seventy six, up,

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Speaker 1: the hornet's faul to Auburn sixty two. Nothing. So if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do the math at home, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty eight to zero combined, come on now. I hope

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Speaker 1: they got a nice paid day to be humiliated in

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Speaker 1: such battery. Nobody watched more tennis from the women's side

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Speaker 1: of the draw than Fritzie did at the US Open,

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Speaker 1: enthusiastically for the fantastic side. Yeah, yeah, of course you

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Speaker 1: didn't watch the men, but boy did you watch the

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Speaker 1: women's side of the draw. Great interviews and class yes

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Speaker 1: all the way through. Teenagers to handle themselves like that.

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Speaker 1: Very impressed. Thank you, Ton mclovin. He still doesn't know

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Speaker 1: you're making fun now I know he does it. I'll

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Speaker 1: play it along. I know what you're doing. Yeah. My

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Speaker 1: best is gonna be Elijah Mitchell Junior, the third rookie

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Speaker 1: running back San Francisco, proving anybody could run him at

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shan and offense went forever on hundred yards. My

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Speaker 1: worst is going to be what everybody's talking about. Connor

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Speaker 1: mcgregoror McGregor tries to fight machine Gun and Kelly at

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Speaker 1: the VMA's last night because machine Gun Kelly would not

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Speaker 1: give him an autograph. Apparently, I have no idea where

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Speaker 1: this is going. I'm sensing some sort of Jake Paul

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Speaker 1: Logan Paul fight, but it was the big Wait. Wait,

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Speaker 1: machine gun Kelly's not fighting anybody. Well, Connor McGregor called

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Speaker 1: him out, said let's go, because I guess he asked

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Speaker 1: machine gun Kelly, who I think maybe his son as

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Speaker 1: a fan of or something, for an autograph. Machinego Galley

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Speaker 1: shot him down. Connor McGregor threw a drink at him

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Speaker 1: and went berserk. Or perhaps the whole thing is set up.

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Speaker 1: But something's going on there. No yea, but no, no,

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Speaker 1: machine Gun Kelly weighs less than his girlfriend Megan Fox.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how much you think Connor McGregory is well,

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Speaker 1: Connor McGregor is a professional fighter. I mean machine gun Kelly.

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Speaker 1: I mean he built like a cornstalk. Yeah see, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's like six four one twenty he's as thin

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Speaker 1: as a rail. And then plus it's kind of hard

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Speaker 1: to be like, all right, you guys want to fistfight

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Speaker 1: when machine Gun Kelly's got like crystals glued all over

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Speaker 1: his face and wearing a stunning amount of makeup, and

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Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, all right, let's fight. Then I guess

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Speaker 1: I guess Machine Gun Kelly, who's an artist by he's

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Speaker 1: a musician in case you're not aware of Machine Gun Kelly,

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Speaker 1: and he goes out with the actress making Fox. But

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Speaker 1: I guess his security people were a little overly aggressive

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Speaker 1: with Connor McGregor. Connor McGregor's walking around with a cane.

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Speaker 1: He just had surgery a month ago, and doesn't he

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Speaker 1: goes from zero to one hundred. Couldn't there be somewhere

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Speaker 1: in between where you just go, hey, we'd love to

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Speaker 1: get a picture, and then the security guy pushes you

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Speaker 1: and you're like, easy, I just want to get a

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Speaker 1: picture with him. Not come on, I tell you Apart

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Speaker 1: likes pretty good. Easy, easy, Come on, you're breaking this

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Speaker 1: one down. I get tired of Connor McGregor. His immediate

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Speaker 1: reaction is to throw a drink. Yeah, wow, tough guy.

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Speaker 1: You threw a drink at a guy weighs one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty pounds and he's there with his girlfriend and

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Speaker 1: he's got glitter on. Wow. Wow, tough guy. Tough guy, men.

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Speaker 1: I just get I get bored by Connor McGregor, Like, guy,

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Speaker 1: I understood the whole you know, whatever that world was

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Speaker 1: when he was successful, and you know he hasn't been

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Speaker 1: any good for a while. He does stupid things. God

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Speaker 1: do you haven't anything else you have? Okay? All Seaton

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Speaker 1: O'Connor best and worst, my worst of the weekend. Uh

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Speaker 1: and it's just just punishing. It was absolutely crushing. Was

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Speaker 1: like watching my own son get benched bruck Purty Iowa State.

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Speaker 1: That was just not that's your boy. That was just

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Speaker 1: not the day. That's your boy. Yeah, that was my guy.

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Speaker 1: That was my guy. He still is. He still is

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Speaker 1: my guy. But that was unfortunate for them. But mcluban

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Speaker 1: you he was your guy in twenty fifteen. How is

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Speaker 1: he still playing college football? I know I did have

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Speaker 1: to ask Seaton. I was like, is your guy still

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Speaker 1: playing at Iowa State? Yes? Yes he is? Yeah, bro October, Yeahctober,

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Speaker 1: in September. See, that's he's very much from the Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick school of thinking. That this He usedes September as

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Speaker 1: like the preseason, let's just see what we have here,

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Speaker 1: and then he turns it on in October and then

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Speaker 1: while I'm on a rant about quarterbacks, the proliferation of

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Speaker 1: dual quarterbacks. Now where you're going with two all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, one guy's on, one guy's off, one guy's on,

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Speaker 1: one guy's off. Not only and it's was already bad

661
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Speaker 1: in college, but now it's going to the NFL. What

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Speaker 1: are we doing? Maybe I just believe too much in

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Speaker 1: the like if you have, if you don't have, what

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Speaker 1: is it if you if you have two too, you

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Speaker 1: don't have one? What all of a sudden, everybody's oh,

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Brisetta, No, now it's two, and then it's this guy,

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Speaker 1: and then it's that guy. What every game was like that?

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Speaker 1: It's a situational football, I think is what that's called. Yes, Paul,

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Speaker 1: Best and Worst the Weekend, This is kind of a

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Speaker 1: best and worst. My Tledo Rockets almost took down Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: They lost thirty through twenty nine, an unbelievably great loss,

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Speaker 1: but they had him what about a minute and a

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Speaker 1: half left, They had a touchdown, the running back taking

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Speaker 1: a knee and kick the field goal to win it. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: great game by Toledo though, and then player of the Weekend.

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Speaker 1: Punters don't get enough credit Tory Taylor, the Iowa punter,

677
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Speaker 1: hit eight punts. He averaged fifty one yards of punt,

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Speaker 1: five of them are down inside the five inside the five,

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Speaker 1: five of them, and he also had a seventy yard

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Speaker 1: punt dominated Iowa state. All right, well, Jacob, break more

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Speaker 1: phone calls, best and worse the weekend. We're back after this.

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Speaker 1: and I watched sixty minutes because it was sixty minutes

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Speaker 1: dedicated to the the heroics, the heroism of nine to

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Speaker 1: of times when we move on from something, we're sort

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Speaker 1: weekend and I couldn't help but notice as I'm driving

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Speaker 1: was on Pier seventeen and it had to do with

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Speaker 1: nine to eleven and celebrating the heroics. There. A lot

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Speaker 1: of firefighters were there and the weather was eerily similar

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Speaker 1: to that day twenty years ago, beautiful sunny day, and

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Speaker 1: I couldn't help but think as I'm driving in around

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Speaker 1: the time that the first tower was hit, and it

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Speaker 1: just dawned on me that it was one of those

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Speaker 1: days that, you know, it was just a beautiful day

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Speaker 1: in New York City. But to be in and to

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Speaker 1: be walking around New York City and all these firehouses,

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00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: there were a lot of tributes. There were a lot

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Speaker 1: of people who were bringing flowers there. It was just

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Speaker 1: a wonderful remembrance, reminder of, you know, the loss of lives.

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Speaker 1: And it's tough to watch now. And as I've said before,

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Speaker 1: and two brothers who were there, New York City firefighters,

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Speaker 1: they got in late and they were there for months

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Speaker 1: cleaning up debris. And they don't talk about it what

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Speaker 1: they saw because they're they're seeing parts of people, but

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Speaker 1: they don't talk about it. They just, I think, out

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Speaker 1: of respect for the dead. They just don't talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I remember that they would go to funerals, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: they would have firefighters just go to funerals for people

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Speaker 1: who would die. And that the number of firefighters who

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Speaker 1: came into New York City from all over all over

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Speaker 1: the country. They're just they knew that that's their job

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Speaker 1: and they're going to be there. And and just to

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Speaker 1: hear some of these men who talk about they're going in,

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Speaker 1: they know what's up there, they know there's people up

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Speaker 1: there they have to go get them, and they know

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Speaker 1: they might not come back down. I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 1: just powerful and you want to move on, but you

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Speaker 1: don't want to forget. And it's a it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a powerful it's a painful reminder. And they're the number

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Speaker 1: of children who were young when their fathers died and

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Speaker 1: they went into they wanted to be a firefighter after that,

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Speaker 1: even though they lost their dad, they wanted to be firefighters.

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Speaker 1: But sixty minutes, the entire hour is about that with

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Speaker 1: nine to eleven, and Scott Pelley did a wonderful job

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Speaker 1: with the interviews. He hosted everything all right, phone calls

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Speaker 1: coming up, best and worst of the weekend Joe and

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. Hi, Joe, what's on your mind today? All right?

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see what you thought about. That's the

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Speaker 1: worst of Russell Wilson went in twelve of thirteen on

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Speaker 1: the East Coast. And another best was Joe Tory and

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Speaker 1: Bobby Valentine's first pitch at the Yankees Mets games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we had Joe Tory on Friday. I thought he was

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Speaker 1: wonderful because he talked about nine to eleven and just

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Speaker 1: the Yankees went to an area where families would gather

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Speaker 1: and waiting to find out if if their loved ones

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Speaker 1: of intruding. And then he said, then we had families

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Speaker 1: pictures of their loved ones that they were waiting to

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Speaker 1: find out if they were still alive. Had Yankee you know,

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Speaker 1: hats or shirts, sweatshirts, jerseys, And he said, you know,

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Speaker 1: then we knew that we could at least help. But

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Speaker 1: I thought, Joe, if you miss any interviews on the program,

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Speaker 1: you know, go to Dan Patrick dot com. But that's

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Speaker 1: one of those I would say, listen to it, because

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Speaker 1: it's twenty years after the fact and you can still

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Speaker 1: hear it in Joe Torrey's voice of what role do

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Speaker 1: you play? And you know that night when then President

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Speaker 1: Bush went out there and threw the first pitch, and

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Speaker 1: the fact that there was an umpire out there during

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Speaker 1: the first pitch who was a member of the Secret Service,

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Speaker 1: but he's dressed as an umpire and I'd never heard them,

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Speaker 1: but I thought Joe and Bobby Valentine thrown out the

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Speaker 1: first pitches as the Yankees and match played over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: mccleve and update the poll results are, we're gonna stay

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Speaker 1: with that for the final hour. Well, we just switched

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Speaker 1: up to what was the most surprising win the flip

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Speaker 1: side of the most disappointing loss. It's actually the Texans

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00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: are leading over the Saints for the most surprising win.

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Speaker 1: They looked impressive. I mean, I'm won't say that or

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00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: was that just a function of playing a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: on a new team, Like are the Texans gonna go

794
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: on a little run here? I mean, if I'm a

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00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: Texans fan, I'm not gonna get too excited. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you didn't you won a game. You're gonna win. You're

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00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: gonna win a couple of these games. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you really want to, but the Deshaun Watson's story

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Speaker 1: they're keeping him away from the team and then he's

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Speaker 1: a healthy, scratch and crazy. Yeah, Paul, it is a

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Speaker 1: horrible win for the Texans. You want to let the

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Speaker 1: first pick of the draft, You're blowing it already. Final

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Speaker 1: Hour coming up. Heisman Trophy winner Carson Palmer will dissect

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