1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, how Vance Joseph feels 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: about his defense and what turned the game? The Cardinal's 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: favor on Sunday Night by the Murray MVP candidate or 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: at worst Offensive Player of the Year. We've got the numbers, 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: but first, another honor for Murray. At this rate, he 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: might need to build another bookshelf, if he even has 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: a bookshelf. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three forty one, 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy Cardinals dot Com, Slash Podcasts. 12 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Murray rolls to the right, throws near sight of fens 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Bob He he's into the ensie for the touchdown. Here's 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. So it's interesting. It's not 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: just the players who get excited about bye week and 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: having a couple of days off. Coaches do as well, 17 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: or at least one coach that we know of, Mike Jarecki. 18 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: That would be defensive coordinator advanced Joseph who earlier today 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: when meeting with the media, looking forward to getting some 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: sleep because, in his words, the head coach, Cliff Kingsbury 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: is an early riser. Quote he is a four thirty 22 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: am guy. I'm here at five thirty and I'm late 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: end quote. So that's why a lot of things happen 24 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: meetings practices in the morning. Everyone's trying to keep up 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: with Kingsbury. Well, I know you and I'm an early riser. 26 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: I'd like to get my day going. Steve kind he's 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: out there four four thirty, Adrian Wilson's there early. I mean, 28 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: and if those guys are there early, I mean, you know, 29 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: these guys got lives and families. But Cliffs done that 30 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: from day one. And I really like the new practice 31 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: this year. And you know, we haven't talked about East 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Coast games and slow starts and maybe we look at 33 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Carolina they came out flat, but they practice early in 34 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: the morning and the players love it. Now. Obviously, when 35 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: you know you're on the team for the last couple 36 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: of years, you kind of know the schedule. It's a 37 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: little bit different this year, but for the most part, 38 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: you know they get out of there, depending on your position, 39 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: group and meetings, and if you've got to get some therapy, 40 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: you can be out of there in the afternoon, you know, 41 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: not like the coaches there until probably seven, eight nine 42 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: at night. I just feel if you sleep in or 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, you get your days at eight or nine, yeah, 44 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: the days like half over with. It just feels like, 45 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: so yeah, early to bed, early to rise. That's that's 46 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: kind of my motto. Now, you know, my motto has 47 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: always been what time is it East coastwise? Because when 48 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: you wake up, you see all this news breaking, you're 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: seeing press conferences going on. You're like, okay, so really 50 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: we live off the East Coast time because that's what 51 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: everything it's going now. They're also information throughout the day. 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: But if you want to be behind the eight ball, 53 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: don't sleep in. Perfect segue into what I want to 54 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: talk about next, because at five thirty am Arizona time, 55 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: so eight thirty am East Coast time, the NFL announced 56 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray named NFC Offensive Player of the Week. Three 57 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty passing yards and three touchdowns, plus sixty 58 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: seven rushing yards and one touchdown against the Seahawks. He 59 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: completed a career high thirty four of forty eight pass 60 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: attempts nearly seventy one percent and helping the Cardinals pick 61 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: up their biggest win to date, second time MJ in 62 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: three weeks. That Murray has been honored. Yeah, and just 63 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: go back to Buddha Baker the week before. You know, 64 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: you and I were talking over the last couple of 65 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: days and we know that the award comes out on Wednesday, 66 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: East Coast time, and we thought out, okay, and we 67 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: looked at all the different quarterbacks and I looked at 68 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and he had four touchdowns. And it's Tom 69 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: Brady and he hasn't been in the conference very long. 70 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: He has won the award in Week four. So I 71 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: was thinking, there's tough competition, and then you filled me 72 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: in that you know, Devin White from the Buccaneers made 73 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: it as the defensive Player of the Week. So I 74 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: have to go back and see if one team had 75 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: two guys, but Murray was worth it. It was on 76 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: primetime again, three touchdowns, four total with the rushing. I mean, 77 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: he accumulated over four total arts of offense and he 78 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: led this team to a victory. So it makes sense. 79 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: But you know, I was looking at the list. Just 80 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: in the NFC, Russell Wilson's won the award twice, Kyler 81 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Murray twice, Matt Ryan, Prescott and Brady and then the 82 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: defensive side, Aaron Downald and Buddha Baker haven't made it. 83 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: And as for the special team, Seattle and the Rams 84 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: both had their punters in there. So the NFC West 85 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: is dominating Players of the Week. And you know what, 86 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: it makes sense the best division in football. So you 87 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: mentioned it. You've had Kyler Murray, Buddha Baker now Murray 88 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: again three straight weeks, and Murray first Cardinals quarterback to 89 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: be named Player of the Week twice in the same 90 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: season since Kurt warnerback in two thousand and nine, and 91 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: just the second player in team history to win Offensive 92 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: Player of the Week twice in a three week span. 93 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: You gotta way back to Boomer assiasin in nineteen ninety six. 94 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: So the honors keep piling up for k one Boomers Siason. 95 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: I want to say one of those two we threw 96 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: for five hundred twenty two yards and it was at 97 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: JFK Stadium. I was there. It was raining a little bit. 98 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: I want to say that it may have gone to overtime. 99 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: You don't throw for five hundred and twenty two yards. 100 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: But I remember one of those games from Boomer Assiason. 101 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: But when you look at the list, Carson Palmerer was 102 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: playing like an MDP. Now we have to go back. 103 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: I can see who won the awards certain weeks, but 104 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: you would have thought Pommel would have been in that 105 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: equation at some point. But also Warner obviously very successful, 106 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: very accurate, and when you throw four or five touchdowns, 107 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: you're going to be on this list. More on Murray 108 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: a little bit later on, because it is fascinating on 109 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: now what the national conversation is starting to become and 110 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: where Murray might end up as far as some of 111 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: these debates MVP, Offensive Player of the Year, but some 112 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: news that we want to get to some house cleaning items. 113 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: The Cardinals have made a couple of roster moves since 114 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: our last show, most recently adding defensive lineman Josh Morrow 115 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: off the Jacksonville practice squad. Former Cardinal Morrow spent four 116 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: seasons from twenty fourteen to twenty seventeen, so now he 117 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: is on the active roster. Zach Allen Isaiah Irving both 118 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: added to injured reserve Allen because of an ankle issue 119 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: and Irving with a neck. Now, the good news is 120 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: here is that no player by the name of Kenyan Drake, 121 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, or Jordan Hicks was added to injured reserve, 122 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: because if you go on IR that means you're done 123 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: for at least three weeks. So we don't quite know 124 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: officially with what's going on with Drake, but I think 125 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: it said something that he was not placed on injured reserve. Yeah, 126 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: and the initial report from Edon Schefter said it could 127 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: be a couple of weeks. They'll be back on the 128 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: practice field after the bye week, so we hopefully we'll 129 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: get an update and we'll see his availability. But I 130 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: think it's safe to say that if Drake's not able 131 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: to go the next couple of weeks, we talked about 132 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: it earlier in the week, it's gonna be the Chase 133 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: Edmunds show, and then it's gonna be interesting to see 134 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: who the backups are because this could be an opportunity 135 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: for Eno Benjamin right now, as Kingsbury said by committee, 136 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: but we all know that it's one running back with 137 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: someone else spelling that number one guy, just to give 138 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: him a little bit of a blow, but hey, if 139 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: someone like h S. Edmonds can handle the load, or 140 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: if an Eno, Benjamin or John the Award DJ Foster, 141 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: let's not forget about him. He's currently on the practice squad. 142 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: There's going to be an opportunity now, it's just a 143 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: matter of how long that window lasts. With Drake on 144 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: the sidelines and Kyler Murray, that's right. Keep forgetting about 145 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: K one. With respects to the ground game, I can't 146 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: do that, but it's easy to do well. We're talking 147 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: about the position versus the quarterback. But let's be honest, 148 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: it seems like whoever they put back there under Sean Coogler, 149 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: for the most partner David Johnson had some issues and 150 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: there's a reason why they went out and got Kenyan 151 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: Drake and they gave him more of a role to 152 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: chase Edmonds. But for the most part, the majority of 153 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: the guys that played within the frame of the offensive 154 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: line blocking schemes, they're they're getting holes to run through, 155 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,119 Speaker 1: So hopefully that happens regardless of who's in the backfield. 156 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals with the number two rushing attack in the NFL, 157 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: number three when you look at yards per carry at 158 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: five point two, which would set a franchise record, a 159 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: record that they set a year ago under offensive line 160 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: coach Sean Coogler. So this team continues to run the 161 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: ball very very well. Some other news and notes from 162 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph, who was made available earlier today. With respects 163 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: to the injury, we know Jordan Phillips is suffering from 164 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: a hamstring injury. Not sure how severe. Jordan Hicks, We've 165 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: never been given a reason why he was on the sidelines. 166 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: According to coach Joseph, he thinks Hicks will be fine, 167 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: so that's good news. Rest up during the bye week 168 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: and then be ready for the Dolphins contest. Also, Prince 169 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: Amukamara continues to make progress on the practice squad and 170 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: in Joseph's words quote is close to playing. So we'll 171 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: see the shuffling that has to go on in the 172 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: secondary because right now you've got a number of guys. 173 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: And then don't forget Jalen Thompson should be available soon 174 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: coming off injured reserve if he becomes healthy. Yeah, and 175 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: we know that Drey Kirkpatrick's been dealing with some lingering injuries. 176 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: Now give him credit, he did try to play through there. 177 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: But if you want to look at a guy that 178 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna have to get better in coverage. He's gonna 179 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: have to get better in the open field tackling. Prince 180 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Amakamura has experience. The Cardinals did have some interest in 181 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: the offseason. He chose to go somewhere else. He's bounced 182 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: around a little bits, he's played in different systems, but 183 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: he's got experience. And obviously Draker Patrick has experience, and 184 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,119 Speaker 1: so you'd like to have some depth there. With experience, 185 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to rely on too many young guys. 186 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: You've got a couple of young guys in the secondary 187 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: with the Thompson twins, but you also have Buddha who's 188 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: twenty five and Chris Banjo, So it wouldn't surprise me 189 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: if they try to mix and match a little bit. 190 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: But I think depth's good. And when he got a 191 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: guy like Prince Sakamura who's got experience, he can come 192 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: in and play. Now it's just a matter of him 193 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: picking up how the defense wants to be called, et cetera. 194 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: And following up on our conversation yesterday about Marcus Golden, 195 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: we heard from Hassan Reddick, Joseph asked about Golden quote, 196 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: he fits perfectly into our plan. Then he added, quote, 197 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: he is going to make plays for us. That's a 198 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: great get for our defense. And he explained to Mjay 199 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: that as far as rushing the passer, it takes efforts, 200 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: relentless effort, and that is something that you can't teach. 201 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: Not everyone can do it, but you have to continually 202 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: pound pound pound, and he thinks that's what Golden is 203 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: able to do. As far as getting to that other 204 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: team's quarterback, you know, it's interesting. So we talked about 205 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: the outside linebackers numbers right in the like forty two, 206 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: forty three, forty four, forty five. If I'm not mistaken, 207 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals must have the most undersized linebackers in the league. 208 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: And listen, it's not the size of the dog, it's 209 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: how the dog fights. And I'm not putting down any 210 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: of those players from a standpoint. Dennis Gardak, Marcus Golden, 211 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: even Kindie fits a little bit bigger number forty nine. 212 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: But again, it's just interesting their numbers and what their 213 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: sizes are because normally you see a Chandler Jones and 214 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: that's an outside linebacker. So we've got forty two, forty three, 215 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: forty four, forty five, forty nine, and the course Chandler 216 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: Jones wears fifty five, but not on the field at 217 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: the moment. So yeah, oh, don't forget number forty eight. 218 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: But that's Isaiah Simmons more of an inside guy. Yes, 219 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: he certainly stands out Cardinal fans. A reminder, this is 220 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: the bye week, so no game coming up this weekend, 221 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: but there is entertainments headed your way. Cardinals flight Plan 222 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: season three, episode six, titled Raising the Bar, will debut 223 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: on Saturday, October thirty feet that's right. Spend part of 224 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: your Halloween night watching Cardinals flight Plan on the official 225 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: YouTube page or the Arizona Cardinals. Go to YouTube dot 226 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: com slash az Cardinals. How's it going to check out 227 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: the trailer. It is very very solid Andre Hopkins, interesting 228 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: comments from him, you know, it's just how you know, 229 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: when he fumbled the ball, felt I could let his 230 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: team down. I don't want to give you too much, 231 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: but nice to see hop you know, Mike up that 232 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: touchdown throw, great catch, great throw by He's just kind 233 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: of reliving what happened them beating the Seahawks, and of 234 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: course what's happened over the last couple of weeks, guys 235 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: getting game balls and another guy who was miked up 236 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker. That video, as they say, has gone viral, 237 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: especially that scene in which he gets caught from behind 238 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: by DK Metcalf and he's asking people on the sidelines, 239 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: how did he get me? You know, he's used different 240 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: choice of horse, but it certainly has made the rounds. 241 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: And now, of course, well you know, Buddha Baker off 242 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: the field versus on the field, two different players or 243 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: two different people. I'm just glad he's getting some national exposure. 244 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: He's made some national hits. They're talking about him on 245 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football. They're actually talking about Larry today and 246 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: how smart he is when he spots the ball, welcome 247 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: to our world. Has been doing it for years, and 248 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: he did that a couple different times. I was watching 249 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: the game back again, and he did it a couple 250 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: of different times in late game situations, ripping the ball 251 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: out of the hands of Chase Edmonds and in handing 252 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: it to Mason Cole or at least getting it in position. 253 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: Because look, especially late in that game, in the second half, 254 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: when that clock is ticking with no timeouts and it's 255 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: three seconds and you spike that football for Zane Gonzalez. 256 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: If Fitz doesn't do what he did, you can make 257 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: an argument that the clock expires and there is no 258 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: field goal attempt to force overtime. Yeah. I don't even 259 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: want to think of that, because you see that happen 260 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: a lot, and usually you need three seconds, you know, 261 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: to spike the ball at least, you know, because usually 262 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: and you get it down to two or one, but 263 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: you need at least three. And the esteem. Mark Dalton 264 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: always tweets out showing him as a ball boy in Minnesota, 265 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: so he was always spotting the ball. Here here he 266 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: was running rounds, he was taking you know, Randy Moss 267 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: and Chris Carter and Jake Read taking their car probably 268 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: at fifteen years old and getting washed. And but here 269 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: he is on the sidelines spotting the ball. So the 270 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: more you can do right exactly, and he learned at 271 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: a very young age. Bird Gang. Make sure you update 272 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: to the Lattist version of the Cardinals mobile app today. 273 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: The update features and all new redesign homescreen experience. Visit 274 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: as Cardinals dot Com slash app for more. Let's get 275 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: into more Kyler Murray and what he has accomplished so 276 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: far through seven games this season, a five and to record. 277 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: His numbers though certainly, look, I wouldn't say greats, but 278 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,479 Speaker 1: they're pretty darn good. Almost sixty seven percent completion percentage, 279 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: thirteen touchdowns, seven interceptions. That number is a little bit high. 280 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: He's got seven rushing touchdowns and that is tied for 281 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: the league lead among all players, not just quarterbacks. I'm 282 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: talking about running backs, so Kyler Murray is up there, 283 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: and of course his six point seven yards per carry 284 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: average ranks number two among all players, quarterbacks, running backs, everyone. 285 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: But it's the numbers that he potentially can put up 286 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: this season MJ that I think has people thinking maybe MVP. 287 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: Now we're going back to the offseason discussion Patrick Mahomes, 288 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and their second year as a full time starter, 289 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: they won the Most Valuable Player award. Although I know 290 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: you like Offensive Player of the Year just because certainly 291 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: MVP is tied to record five and two is great, 292 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: But Lamar Jackson last year they went fourteen and two. 293 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens did yeah, and we're you know, doing 294 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: different We're having different conversations throughout the offseason. If you 295 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: go back the last five years, the average win total 296 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: for an MVP thirteen wins. Now, if you want to 297 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: go back to the Offensive Player of the Year, first 298 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: of all, I did look something up earlier and when 299 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: it came to the Offensive Player of the Year, Pat Mahomes, 300 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Christian McCaffrey, Russell Wilson, Saquon Barkley, Mike Thomas, 301 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Dalvin Cook, Watson Ellie, and then Kyler Murray. 302 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: So he was on this list. Now if you and 303 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: they really gave Murray a chance because they didn't think 304 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: the team would in thirteen games this year or thirteen 305 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: or fourteen. So if you want to go in history 306 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to winning that award, it's very interesting 307 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: because quarterbacks have won that award. Last year Mike Thomas 308 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: put up one hundred and sixty three catches and then 309 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: it was unbelievable for a wide receiver. Year before Patrick 310 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: Mahomes won the award. Year before Todd Gurley he may 311 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: have had thirty rushing touchdowns. Matt Ryan cam Newton to 312 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: Marco Murray. So it's happened with quarterbacks. Now it's usually 313 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: a scope position player. Drew Brees won the award, So 314 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: it's happened in the past, and I think he has 315 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: a better option winning this. Not saying they can't win 316 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: twelve thirteen games. I think it. You know, based on 317 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: nine games they got five right here, we would sign 318 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: up for ten right now. So what are your thoughts? 319 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 1: I think two things certainly play in Murray's favor when 320 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: it comes to postseason honors. One is how much did 321 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: the team improve over last year? Five wins? They've already 322 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: matched that total now through seven games. How many more 323 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: wins can he stack? How many more wins can he 324 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: help the team pick up in the second half of 325 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: the season. And then second of all, he's on pace 326 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: right now for four thousand passing yards and one thousand 327 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: rushing yards. That's never been done before in the history 328 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: of the National Football League. When you start adding history 329 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: making stats to the conversation and your resume, that certainly 330 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: helps when you talk about a player for MVP or 331 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year. Yeah, and you know Patrick 332 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: Mahomes the one year he threw a ton of touchdowns. 333 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean the thing is though, with the rushing and 334 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: if he throws for close to four thousand yards, I 335 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: think he's going to be close, depending on how the 336 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: next nine games, and he's you know, depending on the rushing. Obviously, 337 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: what he's projected to do is get tone and I'm 338 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: sure you get to a thousand at that point, but yeah, 339 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: that would put him in the equation, and he may 340 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: get some MVP votes if the team goes from five 341 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: wins to eleven or eleven wins or whatever, just because 342 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: they know how much he meant to that team, and 343 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: really they don't have like second and third place warts 344 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: for that. It's more unanimous and a lot of times 345 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes probably were unanimous, maybe one vote, 346 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: but I do think he's got a better option. But 347 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: if he throws for four thousand yards, I would say 348 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: that's about twenty seven touchdowns, maybe even a little bit 349 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: more than where he's at now, interceptions hopefully less than fourteen. 350 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: And then if he gets you know, the thousand yards 351 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: and four thousand passing, I think he has to be 352 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: in the conversation what we talk about with running back 353 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: because it's two thousand and two thousand, right, I mean 354 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: rushing and receiving and that's only been done a handful 355 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: of times. Christian McCaffrey is the most recent player to 356 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: do that. They but Johnson wanted or attempted to do that, 357 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: hit that milestone. But four thousand and one thousand, when 358 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: it comes to a quarterback, I didn't know that had 359 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: never been done before. But you don't think of a 360 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: quarterback getting one thousand rushing yards. But that is certainly 361 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: a number I think that we might be talking more 362 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: about because of the developments of these quarterbacks high school 363 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: college that can throw the ball and then they could 364 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: run it. They could completely control in an entire ball 365 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: game because of their dual threat ability. Well, when stat 366 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: Wiz tweeted that out and people followed up, first person 367 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: they thought was Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson didn't do that, 368 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, well, maybe he didn't have 369 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: the four thousand yards. And because we know that he 370 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: was very effective catching Mike Vick for rushing yards. I'll 371 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: tell you what, though, Craik, if DeAndre Hopkins finishes with 372 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred yards twelve or fourteen touchdowns, he could be 373 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: in the same conversation. That's true because he would be 374 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: one of those players that helps elevate a team, and 375 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: that's what these postseason honors are looking at yads. A 376 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: lot of it is stats and how big are the numbers, 377 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: but also just what did the team do overall? Is 378 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: their improvements, you know, because sometimes stats can be inflated. 379 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: If you're on a bad team, all of a sudden, 380 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: you're the only option, you're the only weapon. So of 381 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: course you're going to have a lot of numbers. But 382 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: if this team does get the double digit wins, you 383 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: certainly could make the case for either Murray or Hopkins 384 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: depending on what their numbers are at the end of 385 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: the season. And again, Mike Thomas, I mean, he's sad 386 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: history records, but if Hopkins can get the fifteen hundred 387 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: yards now, I think he's projected somewhere between fifteen and 388 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: sixteen hundred to look it up, doesn't have the touchdowns 389 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: you got to get in double digits. But again, if 390 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: Murray is in the conversation, I think we have to 391 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: include DeAndre Hopkins as well as Murray is playing, and 392 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: the numbers back it up. I've been impressed and I 393 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: think it was really highlighted on Sunday Night Football on 394 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: his decision making, and that's what we talked about a 395 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: lot in the offseason, he's better making decisions. But his 396 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: late game heroics into the first half, into the fourth 397 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: quarter and end of the overtime, what he was able 398 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: to do very poised to march the team downfield. You 399 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: look at the end of the first half, forty three 400 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: seconds left to go, three timeouts, he completed passes of nine, twelve, fifteen, 401 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: and six yards plus a run of two yards. Then 402 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: in the end of the fourth quarter to send the 403 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: game into overtime, fifty two seconds left to go, no timeouts, 404 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: completed passes of eleven and sixteen yards, had three spikes 405 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: and then a run of fifteen yards to put the 406 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: team in position to kick that field goal to send 407 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: the game into overtime. No sense of panic. Doesn't matter 408 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: what the time is on the clock, doesn't matter how 409 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: many time outs you have in your back pocket. What 410 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: he was able to do at the end of the game, 411 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: at the end of each half, I think speaks volumes 412 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: on how much he has grown as a quarterback in 413 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: year or two. Yes, And when you watch NFL games 414 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: and you see these, you know the guys that have 415 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: been in the league a long time, like Tom Brady 416 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: and Drew Brees and Matthew Stafford and they show you 417 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: when the game is about five minutes to go, and 418 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: they show you their fourth quarter comebacks. I mean, it's 419 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: pretty impressive, and that means they're able to win games 420 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: by coming from behind or in this case, put their 421 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: team in position to win late in the fourth quarters. 422 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: So that's something we're going to see continue. But it's 423 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: impressive that. I like the fact that he was in 424 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: more control in this game than he was in the 425 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys game. I think just going back home and you know, 426 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: obviously living up to the expectations. The main thing is 427 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: they won the game. You know, I thought they showed 428 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: something in the passing game. Obviously his numbers weren't great, 429 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: but I think you can live out that. But if 430 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: this team is going to be successful, we always talk 431 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: about good teams finding ways to win. You may not 432 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: play well for all four quarters, and usually the NFL, 433 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: if you're within one score comes down, that will last 434 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: five or six minutes. Teams kind of change put the 435 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: foot on the throttle if they're behind. So I think 436 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: he's built for that. I think he's built for either 437 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: if they're down by three to get seven, tie the game, 438 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: or if he has to make a throw to put 439 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: them in field goal range to get the victory. So 440 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: I think he's built for that when it comes to 441 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: the late game, you know, kind of like when you 442 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: say he's a clutch player in other sports. I think 443 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: he's clutch, and I think Hopkins is like that. You 444 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: could see Larry has been like that through his career. 445 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: When the game's on the line. These guys want the 446 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: ball in their hands. Yes, the spotlight, the bright lights, 447 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: not too big. They don't cower under the pressure. They 448 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: are game elevates when the game is at its most 449 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: crucial point. Because in that fourth quarter, remember he had 450 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: that interception, Quandre Diggs picked him off, and then the 451 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: Seahawks marched down field to make it thirty four twenty 452 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: four with six forty four to go. You're down ten. 453 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: It would not have been a surprise any other quarterback. 454 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: That's too insurmountable of a lead. And then you had 455 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: just been picked off the last time that you are 456 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: on the football field, and now you're being asked to 457 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: get ten points in the last five minutes to send 458 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: the game into overtime or even better, pick up the win. 459 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what he did. After that interception, he 460 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: accounted for ninety one of one hundred and twenty nine yards, 461 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: three carries for thirty three yards, and then went seven 462 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: to twelve for fifty eight yards and a touchdown. And 463 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: that includes those three spikes. Those are in completions. You 464 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: take that off the twelve. Now he's seven of nine 465 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: passing for forty eight yards and to score all with 466 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: under five minutes to go to get this team in 467 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: position to kick a field goal, send it to overtime 468 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: and then and then win. Yeah, and just based on 469 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know what Vance said they did 470 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: at halftime, you know, obviously changed their defense a little bit. 471 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: I think, you know, they always felt like they were 472 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: in that game, even then when they were down at 473 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: the half, and they were down, um, you know, late 474 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter by ten points or three minutes ago, 475 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: and it sounds like they felt that they could just 476 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: put together a drive. And I think it's very important 477 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: to mention down ten and woefully hit it right on 478 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: the head on the broadcast, you know, and pastors like, well, 479 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: you didn't need points, you know, let's get three. And 480 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: then obviously you had enough time in the Cardinals had 481 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: the timeouts they weren't going to do an on site kick. 482 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: They give me a short feel, but but getting that 483 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: seven points was huge. Now, obviously you wish you could 484 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: have figured things out in regulation, but you needed the 485 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: extra period. But that was huge right there. And I 486 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: just felt like they they they felt like the game 487 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: was still in hand, even though on the scoreboard it 488 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: looked like it was gonna be astronomical. They had that 489 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: fifty two yard field goal that was good, but the 490 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: leverage call against the Seahawks, you take the points off 491 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: and then you go downfield and Christian Kirk scores that 492 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: touchdown to pull to within three and the Cardinals ultimately 493 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: pick up their biggest win of the season thirty seven 494 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: thirty four and overtime. One other note on Kyler Murray 495 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: and when we talk about the National Conversation, not sure 496 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: you saw us on NFL dot Com, but David Carr 497 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: ranked the top five quarterbacks under the age of twenty five. 498 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: So that's keep that in mind. So there is no 499 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, So that's the criteria here under the age 500 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: of twenty five. He has in no particular order, and 501 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: then I'll give you who he has. His number one. 502 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: He lists Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, 503 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray. He has Kyler Murray at the age 504 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: of twenty three as the number one quarterback under the 505 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: age of twenty five, ahead of last year's MVP, Lamar Jackson. 506 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: A little surprising. But Joe Burrow, I mean, he's really 507 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: exceeded expectations. I mean, the guy, I don't know if 508 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna last a season, but he's putting up numbers 509 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 1: like a little bit higher than Murray because they had 510 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: to throw the ball all the time, you know, Lamar Jackson. 511 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: I think Kyle's a better thrower. I think Lamar Jackson 512 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: has become a better passer. And obviously they dodn't want 513 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: him to run as much because they do have quality 514 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: tight ends, the guys that can stretch the field, and 515 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: they got a good one two punch in the running 516 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: game and a good offensive line. So I don't think 517 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: they want to put everything on Lamar's plate. They just 518 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: don't want him to turn the ball over. But accuracy wise, 519 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: I would take Murray. Now that's a good that's a 520 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: good list to be on. But I could understand, you know, 521 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: looking at the ages and the upside. I can understand that. 522 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: You know, I would have thought Murray been one tour 523 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: I guess one or two when you started the names. 524 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: This is what Carr wrote about. Murray showed a lot 525 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: of positives in his first year in Cliff Kingsbury's air 526 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: raid offense, executing quick throws and extending plays by using 527 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: his legs. In year two, Murray is being used on 528 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: more designed QB runs and he's chopping up defenses as 529 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: a result, ranking first and rush yards among quarterbacks this season. 530 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: Murray is often the most dynamic runner on the field. 531 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: It just so happens he has a big time arm too. 532 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: He also mentioned DeAndre Hopkins and how much Murray has 533 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: improved his knowledge of the system and then also reading defenses, 534 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: which I think is huge. And then he ended his 535 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: ride up with this paragraph talking about Kyle the Murray. 536 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: He's the most talented young quarterback right now. If Murray 537 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: gets in a rhythm, he is the ultimate threat and 538 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: accurate passer who's improving his vertical game and continuing to 539 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: show ability as a runner that's comparable to Lamar Jackson's. 540 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: That's pretty heady stuff. Although I think Murray is a 541 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: better runner than Jackson, at least as far as eluding tacklers, 542 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: eluding hits, and knowing when to take off, especially when 543 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: he sees the middle of the field on those whether 544 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: their design runs or not, maybe called runs. Be interesting 545 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: to see how many design runs versus called runs that 546 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: have been this season. Yeah, and Lamar is a little 547 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: bit bigger, so he's more of a target. Murray's obviously, 548 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, smaller stature, and I'm sure Lamar can run 549 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: a four to three, but he's a little bit bigger. 550 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: He's put some upper body weight on, you know. I'm 551 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: sure it's mass like Kyler did in the offseason. But yeah, 552 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: I think they're both dynamic in the open field. It's 553 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: just Murray's a little bit more quick out of his breaks. 554 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: Lamar takes a little bit more longer strides. They're both 555 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: effective as dual threat quarterbacks. But I just think Murray's 556 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: more accurate in the passing game, at least he has been. 557 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: Now we need to see it over a period of time. Well, 558 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: he was at almost seventy one sent on Sunday Night Football, 559 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: and you take away how many times he had to 560 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: spike the football and it jumps up. I believe the 561 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: number was seventy seven, so he is. He's certainly accurate. 562 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: It's maybe a little bit more consistent now on many 563 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: of those throws, especially the deeper shots. Yeah, you just 564 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: go back to the Dallas gaming completely at nine passed. 565 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: But you know, there's other ways to win this league. 566 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: But for the most part, it was a little surprising 567 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: that he was overthrowing guys earlier in the season. I 568 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: was that was surprising me because that's one thing he 569 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: loves to throw from the pocket, even if he's got 570 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: to step to the left or right, and he can 571 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: make that throw from the right hash mark to the 572 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: left out and not a lot of quarterbacks really even 573 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: try that because you're likely going to get a pick 574 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: six the defensive back. He could make all the throws, 575 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: it's just sometimes he's got to get his feet set, 576 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: and people who are talking about as wind up, he 577 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: gets throw the ball so quick. I don't I don't 578 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: know where that came from. I don't know if it 579 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: was Brian Greasy on Monday Night Football and maybe he 580 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: would see stuff like that where he's a former quarterback 581 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: and obviously you know he's the analyst. But when we 582 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: watch Murray in the open portion of pract That ball 583 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: comes out so quick now when you are throwing it 584 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: down the field of him where you do have to 585 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: have a little bit more of a wind up. But 586 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't see that messing with his mechanics. And he's 587 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: certainly a lot more mature off the field as well. 588 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say after that game on 589 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football with respect to the bye week. Quote, 590 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: for me, there is no bye week. Last year, we 591 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: kind of treated it like there was a bye week. 592 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: This year, the head stays down. There is no bye 593 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: week for me, So I'm going to keep at it 594 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: and be ready to come back and lead these guys. 595 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: And quote and as we've discussed here on Cardinals Cover 596 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: two that because of the COVID nineteen protocols, all these 597 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: players are staying in town because there is daily testing. 598 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: And then well, since you're at the facility for testing, 599 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: and maybe you go inside the facility for a workout 600 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: or watch some film and put a little bit extra time. Yeah, 601 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 1: you do need that mental break, But this should be 602 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: a much different team than what we saw a year 603 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: ago when they came out of the buy and got 604 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: embarrassed by the Rams. Yeah, that's the plan, and I 605 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: just think they're they're much more advanced. I think they 606 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: got great leadership, and they've already had that dug game, 607 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know the Lions game obviously had opportunities 608 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: to win, but Detroit May plays Carolina, they really didn't 609 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: show up. So that's how that's out of their system. 610 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: And now they're playing for something. And the last thing 611 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,479 Speaker 1: you want to do is, you know, is come out 612 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: of the break and go on to lose that game, 613 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: and then Buffalo is going to be a tough matchup. 614 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: I know, both games are at home and then obviously 615 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: going to start to play the NFC West again, So 616 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: you want to build off this momentum, and you know, 617 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: just make sure you put your work in and the 618 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: way you practice will addicted how you play on game date. 619 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: You know the way that Buda back Baker practices, that's 620 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: the way he plays so well on game date. 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Want to go 629 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: back to what Vance Joseph had to say and maybe 630 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: our final look at the Seattle Seahawks contest, and I 631 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: think we got really a definitive take on exactly what 632 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: happened from the first half to the second half, because 633 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph never sugarcoats anything. If you ask him a question, 634 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: he'll give you an answer. And we all want to 635 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: know what flips, what changed. Well, players are saying, oh, 636 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, we just stuck to the plan. Well what 637 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: was the plan initially? What was going on? According to 638 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: coach Joseph, Seahawks quote played faster than we did in 639 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: the first half. We couldn't match their speed. But then 640 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: he mentioned third down and I went back and looked 641 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: because he brought it up a number of different times, 642 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: saying that they had a third down package, but they 643 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: couldn't use it in the first half because the Seahawks 644 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: only had three first downs, there were ten third downs, 645 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: and the second half and overtime. Yes, the Seahawks converted 646 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: four of those. They went four of ten, But it 647 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: was the opportunity to get these This package which we 648 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: saw was crab a line scrimmage and show Russell Wilson 649 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: different looks. According to Joseph, we knew it was going 650 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 1: to work regarding the third down package, but our third 651 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: down package wasn't alive until the second half. So that's 652 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: when this game flipped, is because the Cardinals defense forced 653 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 1: the Seahawks in the third down. You went on first down, 654 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: second down, then you can set up third down to 655 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: do what you want defensively. Yeah, that's impressive because you know, 656 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: you always talk about halftime adjustments and you know, and 657 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: they felt like they didn't match their you know, their 658 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: speed early on and you give you know, a lock 659 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: at credit that was a great catch. But they felt 660 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: like they should have had better coverage and Patrick had 661 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: good coverage, but they felt like they should have had 662 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: more pressure on the quarterback not allow him to make 663 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: those shrows. So yeah, he's he's really he's great to 664 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: hear when he talks here in the week, because, like 665 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: you said, he's a straight shooter. He's going to tell 666 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: you exactly what transpires. And you know, I like the 667 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: fact that he's in a much better spot this year 668 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: because he's got better players and now he could really 669 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: put his fingerprints on this defense like he wanted to 670 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: do a year ago. Well, he makes it sound so 671 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: simple at times, and again it's blocking and tackling, but 672 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: we all have questions on what we see, and it's 673 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: certainly a complicated defense. And these players on the field 674 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: are given so much and have to think in a 675 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: split second and maybe I don't even think they're just 676 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: reacting out there. Yet we kind of wait for a 677 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: couple of days to let everything sink in, look at 678 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: the game, maybe a couple of different times, a couple 679 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: of different plays, and then wondering, well, why did this work? 680 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: Why didn't that work? Because it's dramatically different that first 681 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: half to the second half. Three hundred and seventy seven 682 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: yards versus less than two hundred and seven points by 683 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: the Seahawks in the second half and overtime. So yeah, 684 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: something had to have happened, and it was simply just 685 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: getting Russell Wilson into third down situations. Yeah, it's the 686 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: why you want to know why it happened? And that's 687 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: the beauty of being able to have the you know, 688 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: the opportunity to get a chance to ask coaches and 689 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: players questions because yeah, they know what's transpiring, and it's 690 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: not confession where they got to tell you your place, 691 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: but they'll give you an idea what was supposed to 692 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: happen and what did happen. And Vance does a great 693 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: job at that. Well, that's why he always points to 694 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: third down as one of his major statistical categories that 695 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: he pays attention to. And right now, the Cardinals are 696 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: number eight in the league at just under thirty seven percent. 697 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: Of course, that number was a lot better earlier in 698 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: the season, and I don't expect the Cardinals to stop 699 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: every one, especially the number one scoring offense as the 700 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: Seahawks were coming into that game on Sunday night. When 701 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: you look at the first seven games and now flipping 702 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: the script to these last nine games, Joseph wants to 703 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: see fewer big plays in the passing game, better tackling, 704 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: and then just better overall execution when it comes to 705 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: what the call is from the sideline to the field. 706 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: But you've always talked about those chunk throws. You can't 707 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: give up big plays and then the tackling. And I 708 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: think that's something that every coach, every defensive coordinator across 709 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: the league, they are never going to be happy with 710 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: the tackling because the other players, as you say, get 711 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: paid too, and they make guys miss. Yeah. And the 712 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: thing is, though, it's something that it's got to be 713 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: a one, two and a will And there's a reason 714 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: why they do certain drills before they actually practice, and 715 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: it's about technique. It's about wrapping up, keeping your head 716 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: and chin up. And you got to remind these guys 717 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: all the time because they all want going for the 718 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: you know, not so much for the big hit, the 719 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: shoulder hit. Guy falls down quick enough, and some of 720 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: these guys can break tackles. So it's it's more of 721 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: a you got to remind these guys because you know, 722 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: football does come down to blocking and tackling and execution, 723 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: but you don't want to have miss tackles. And when 724 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: you have miss tackles, and all of a sudden, you know, 725 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: a three yard game becomes a nine yard game, and 726 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: then daily need a yard for a first down and 727 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: then eliminating the chunk place. That's just a more matter 728 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: of more communication and guys knowing their their positions and 729 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: what side of the fields are playing. So those are 730 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: all correctable. But again a lot of us want to 731 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: and just putting your nose in the playbook and go 732 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 1: out there and play on Sunday and not think as much, 733 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,439 Speaker 1: and it becomes a lot more difficult when it comes 734 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: to the execution and the communication when you have guys 735 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: shuffling in and out because of injury. Josh Morrow just 736 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: added to the team, Jalen Thompson, we expect to come 737 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: back soon. But familiar faces, new faces, old faces. I mean, 738 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: y'all have to mess somehow, and I think Jordan Phillips, 739 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: Devon Kannard and Vandre Campbell certainly have messed very well 740 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: with respect to the three free agent additions to this team. 741 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: Because as we're getting further and further into the season, MJ, 742 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: the core of the Cardinals defense is looking quite different. Yes, 743 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: and you know when when you look at you know 744 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: guys are bringing in m You know again, defensive line, 745 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: know your assignments. Josh Morres played for the franchise. He 746 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: was with the Giants, he was in Jacksonville. Most recently 747 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: he was with the Raiders, So he's played, and there's 748 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: only so much you can do on the D line 749 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: as long as you got to gap discipline and integrity. 750 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: Marcus Scholl in the past rusher, you know, basically, he's 751 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: gonna to learn some of the assignments, but he's a 752 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: guy that's going to rush the pastor So hopefully they 753 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: can come coming in, you know, plug and play guys 754 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: and then lean on their leadership there because guys have 755 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: been in the system for a couple of years. But 756 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, you know, unfortunately injures a part of it, 757 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 1: and you don't want to have too many in certain spots. 758 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: But I feel good about the rotation. You know, you 759 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: just hope that at this point in time they can 760 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: stay healthy for the remainder of the season. A reminder 761 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: Bird Gang Cardinals Flight Plan episode six of season number three, 762 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: Raising the Bar, coming up this weekend, October thirty first 763 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: on the official Arizona Cardinals YouTube page. Go to YouTube 764 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: dot com slash as Cardinals. Really looking forward to that 765 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. And on that note, we will 766 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two 767 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: presented by Hunday Pound, partner of the Arizona Cardinals special thanks, 768 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: as always to our executive producer Jim I'm a hundred 769 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: for Mike Jarecki. I'm craig Riel Loup. We'll talk to 770 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.