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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to George NORRII Doctor Jeff Tarrant. His

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Speaker 2: book is called Becoming Psychic, will take calls next hour

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Speaker 2: with Jeff, So get ready for that. Jeff, It's amazing

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Speaker 2: how the psychic realm works. Do you believe that we

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Speaker 2: all have this ability? We may not be good at it,

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Speaker 2: but we all have it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do. And it's interesting because so many, I

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Speaker 3: would say nearly every psychic and medium that I've talked

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Speaker 3: to and interviewed has said that they said everybody has

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Speaker 3: these abilities. And of course, on the one hand, it's

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Speaker 3: easy for them to say that because they're very talented

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Speaker 3: and you know in that regard. But I do believe

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Speaker 3: at this point that everybody has this capacity and it's

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Speaker 3: just kind of uncovering it. So maybe, you know, I

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Speaker 3: don't know if maybe maybe I should have changed the

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Speaker 3: title of the book right instead of becoming Psychic, it's

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Speaker 3: maybe it's, you know, uncovering your psychic abilities or something,

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Speaker 3: because I feel like it's there. And I've also witnessed

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Speaker 3: people who really want to explore this for themselves, and

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Speaker 3: so if they really put the time in and practice,

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Speaker 3: and you open themselves up, they get better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So again that suggests right that we all have this ability,

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Speaker 3: we just have to kind of hone it.

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Speaker 2: Do we know if it's part of the brain, or

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Speaker 2: if it's outside of the brain in some kind of

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Speaker 2: subconscious or conscious way.

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Speaker 3: I think at this point it's really about kind of

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Speaker 3: getting a lot of the brain out of the way

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Speaker 3: that many parts of the brain seem to prevent our

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Speaker 3: access to these abilities. And it's actually starting to make

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Speaker 3: sense to me that so many psychics and mediums that

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Speaker 3: I've talked to report having had a traumatic brain injury,

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Speaker 3: or having had a seizure to or you know, something

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Speaker 3: of that nature. And I'm not I'm not suggesting that

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Speaker 3: those things are causing some sort of hallucination or something,

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Speaker 3: or that you know, they're they're making this up because

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Speaker 3: of these things. I think what it does is it

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Speaker 3: unlocks the brain so that it's more flexible, so that

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Speaker 3: they're able to access states of consciousness more easily that

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Speaker 3: maybe the rest of us who haven't had those kinds

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Speaker 3: of experiences aren't able to do. So.

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Speaker 2: If you know that little voice that we all hear

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Speaker 2: in our heads that tell us.

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Speaker 4: Things, do this, do that? Do that? Is that part

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Speaker 4: of our psychic ability?

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Speaker 3: A good question, I think, boy, I mean that gets

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Speaker 3: that gets tricky, doesn't it?

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Speaker 4: Because it does?

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Speaker 3: It does because it is part of our psychic ability,

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Speaker 3: part of our subconscious. And I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: know the full answer to that, because I think I

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Speaker 3: think part of our intuition, like we talked about earlier,

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Speaker 3: is actually our subconscious kind of coming through and feeding

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Speaker 3: us information. Is that psychic I don't know. I tend

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Speaker 3: to think of psychics is information kind of out there

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Speaker 3: in the ether, right that we're able to kind of

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Speaker 3: move outside of our own little physical egostructure and tap

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Speaker 3: into additional information. So I don't know. I guess that's

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Speaker 3: my answer. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: What is it about meditation that gives us the ability

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Speaker 2: to enhance this even more?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because that comes up a lot. You know,

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Speaker 3: pretty much every book you pick up about psychic abilities

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Speaker 3: or developing your abilities talk about meditation, And when you

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Speaker 3: really start to break it down, kind of like I

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Speaker 3: was mentioning earlier, if you consider meditation a wider system

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Speaker 3: of exercises, that meditation isn't just one thing. You can

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Speaker 3: start to see that certain types of medication exercise the

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Speaker 3: brain in certain ways that may help you access these abilities.

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Speaker 3: And so, just to give a simple example, or maybe

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Speaker 3: a couple of simple examples, if you're doing a practice

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Speaker 3: like say like a loving kindness medication or a compassion medication,

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Speaker 3: which very often involves, you know, extending yourself out toward others,

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Speaker 3: so wishing well toward others, increasing your empathy and your

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Speaker 3: perspective taking and kind of reaching out energetically toward other beings,

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Speaker 3: and that skill, that ability seems to be related in

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Speaker 3: some ways to the ability to do things like talk

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Speaker 3: to the deceased or you know, some sort of spirit communication,

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Speaker 3: to extend yourself outside of your own egostructure. So a

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Speaker 3: lot of medications you can sort of look at as

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Speaker 3: exercise to help expand your psychic abilities. And you'll see

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Speaker 3: that actually in a lot of research that people that

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Speaker 3: meditate more consistently just naturally report more siabilities, even if

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Speaker 3: a natural consequence of those types of practices. I see

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Speaker 3: it as sort of a two part process that medication

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Speaker 3: can help develop the capacity to enter those states of consciousness,

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Speaker 3: but it's still helpful to practice. You still have to

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Speaker 3: practice those skills of actually reaching out to talk to

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Speaker 3: spirits or to receive information about other people or whatever

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Speaker 3: it might be. But the two work together really well.

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Speaker 2: I think, what what do you mean by in your

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Speaker 2: book brain hacking Technologies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so this is something we've been having a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun with because, you know, some of the

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Speaker 3: research that we did, we started to identify specific regions

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Speaker 3: of the brain that seem to be pretty consistently involved

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Speaker 3: in some of these abilities. So certain areas shut off,

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Speaker 3: certain areas become more activated. And so because we've been

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Speaker 3: able to identify these specific regions and how they behave,

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Speaker 3: we can use certain kinds of technologies that nudge the

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Speaker 3: brain in whatever the desired direction is. So just a

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Speaker 3: simple example that there's several technologies that do this. One

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Speaker 3: of my favorites is it's called audio visual entrainment.

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Speaker 4: What is that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's these big bug eyed glasses that you

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Speaker 3: then you put headphones on.

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Speaker 4: It's like virtual reality glasses.

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Speaker 3: Huh kind of. They're not quite that big and cumbersome

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Speaker 3: that they more look like sunglasses, but just very big,

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Speaker 3: but they have lights built into them. And you plug

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Speaker 3: the glasses and the headset into either a controller box

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Speaker 3: or your computer, depending on what particular system you have,

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Speaker 3: and you choose a program, and then what happens is

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Speaker 3: the lights flicker on and off at a certain rate,

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Speaker 3: so maybe they flicker on and off six times a second,

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Speaker 3: consistent with that. It's also going on and off six

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Speaker 3: times a second. And what happens is the brain in

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Speaker 3: trains to that rhythm, so the brain will start matching

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Speaker 3: that six cycle per second rhythm, which is actually a

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Speaker 3: theta brain wave. So you can essentially kind of nudge

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Speaker 3: the brain into the desired frequency. So if you know that,

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Speaker 3: for instance, FATA tends to be associated with a lot

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Speaker 2: So you do believe the brain has something to do

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Speaker 3: I do, and you know, kind of, like I was

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Speaker 3: suggesting before, I think largely it's kind of in the way.

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Speaker 3: And so you know, by shifting the frequency of the brain,

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Speaker 3: slowing certain things down or speeding certain things up.

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Speaker 2: My late aunt was a psychiatrist, jeff She is no

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Speaker 2: longer with us, but she decided to devote her entire

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Speaker 2: practice to investigating telepathy and clairvoyance.

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Speaker 4: Her name was.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Shafika Currigula. She wrote a couple of books. The

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Speaker 2: big one was a Breakthrough to Creativity, but she just

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Speaker 4: What do you think of that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's awesome. And I love hearing stories about

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Speaker 3: you know, psychiatrists, psychologists, neuroscientists, doctors that put themselves out

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Speaker 3: into this world because you know, it is real, you know,

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Speaker 3: and most of your guests are on track with this, right,

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Speaker 3: that this is happening, and don't we want to understand it?

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Speaker 3: Don't we want to explore this? Isn't that what science

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Speaker 3: is about? And it seems like so much of traditional

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Speaker 3: looking at it. And to me, that's the opposite of science.

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Speaker 3: It's like, if there's something unusual happening, if there's something

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Speaker 3: supernatural that people report over and over and over again,

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Speaker 3: shouldn't we look at that. Shouldn't we try to understand

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Speaker 3: what's going on? To me, that just makes sense. I

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Speaker 2: Do you find that successful people use their psychic abilities

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Speaker 2: in their day to day life to do whatever they do?

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Speaker 3: Hmmm?

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Speaker 2: I think successful people are very intuitive, They have great

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Speaker 4: Now I don't know what happened to Elon Musk with that.

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Speaker 2: Decision to buy Twitter, which you bought for forty four billion.

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Speaker 2: Now it's worth like nineteen billion. Yeah, I mean something

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really interesting point, and I think it

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Speaker 3: some level of some high level of intuition, right that

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Speaker 2: I had a friend of mine, older guy, worked at

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Speaker 2: he would talk to me about metaphysical things every time

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Speaker 2: So I told him. I says, the next time you

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Speaker 4: He played slots. That's what he liked. Well he did.

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Speaker 2: He comes back the next day and tells me he

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Speaker 4: He was ecstatic about it.

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Speaker 2: And I told him though, I says, and his name

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Speaker 2: Karma will backfire on you. Just be happy with what

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Speaker 2: you have. He said, I'm going back again next weekend.

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Speaker 2: lost it all. There's something about karma that you have

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Speaker 2: to add into this, is it, don't you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It's interesting. I mean, you know, we kind of

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, especially when I think we're getting into

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Speaker 3: my territory. But yeah, it makes sense that if you're

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Speaker 3: or some sort of payoff, some sort of balance in

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Speaker 4: YEP.

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Speaker 2: So you have what you call Technology assisted Psychic Exploration.

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Speaker 4: It's a class. What is that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, while I was working on the book, I

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Speaker 3: just kind of had this idea that it would be

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Speaker 3: of the class was everybody got a set of those

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Speaker 3: we shipped them out to everybody, so everybody has a

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Speaker 3: we would talk about some of the brain science related

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Speaker 3: to psychics and mediumship, talk about the brain waves, explore

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Speaker 3: one of the specific protocols with the audio visual entrainment.

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Speaker 3: So maybe it was the theta protocol, or maybe it

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