WEBVTT - Episode 405: Scam Likely (Feat. Jennifer Williams & Mona Phillips) 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:03.320 What's up. It's lip service. 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:07.360 I'm Angela Yee, I'm Gg Maguire, I'm Stephanie Santiago. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:11.600 Come on, oh hi, I'm Jonnifer Williams. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:11.840 And I'm Mowna Philip. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.800 All right, Well, what's up, ladies? How y'all feeling good? 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:17.919 You guys enjoying the wine? I do want to shout 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:18.439 out to Mary J. 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:18.759 Blige. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.400 We're drinking her wine. And also my boy Dynae were 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:26.599 drinking his Lafette Rose Delicious. You know, black owned brands. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:29.200 I only do you don't normally we don't do this, 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.240 but I know you are classy and whatnot, so I 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:33.000 knew we would. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:33.440 Have had something else. 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.440 Jennifer would have been like, I know, I'm okay, No, 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.120 I don't do that hard liquor stuff anymore. 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:41.040 I think, okay, don't don't tell my. 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:45.280 Secrets, Jennifer. We know you good for a penal Greese, Mariam, 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.040 you had a letter backing at us up. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.199 Yeah, no tequila today, but. 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.720 Listen, just for some context. You know this is my girl, 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:58.320 Jennifer Williams. Y'all know her from basketball wives, I know 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:03.360 her from high school. But yeah, and so we've been 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.760 watching this is this the last season, you think. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.640 No, it's definitely now. It's too much stuff going on 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:11.240 and our ratings are great. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.320 Okay, alright, cause I was like, we're it now? 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:14.440 What? 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.440 Like what? But I guess y'all got some new cast members. 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.679 Too, Yes, and you know what, they have really good 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.840 personal stories. And so this is the first time that 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.200 we've done two parts to a season. So we have 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:30.560 twenty six episodes. Part A aired and now Part B 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.479 is gonna air. I don't know when, but it is 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.320 airing soon. I'm still actually doing some pick up interviews, 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.880 but I think it should be airing soon. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.200 Okay, thank you for that, because I keep going back 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:46.000 to see when the next episode is coming, and I'm like, 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.440 y'all not just gonna stop like this, like there's no reunion, 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:50.160 Like what's happening? 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.280 But that explains it. That's what I thought. I was like, 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:56.800 what happened to this during COVID, Like I don't know it? 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.280 So that was that season was really crazy because we 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.840 were like in these mansions because it was COVID, and 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.120 then we had a cast member that went role that 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:11.680 was recording people, which is basically a violation of your contract. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.320 So it was a lot of legal issues that we 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.520 were dealing with, so they were just like, Okay, no, 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.120 we can't do a reunion. It was a lot going on, 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.720 but I am told we are doing a reunion. However, 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:26.200 the second part of the season hasn't aired, so we 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.400 can't do the reunion quite yet, but I guess we'll 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:30.200 be doing it soon. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.880 Will you and Jilani be having a wedding spin off special? 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:41.799 You know what I am. I am doing a special 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:47.320 actually with my own show, but it's a documentary, not 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:48.359 a lot of special. 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:48.760 Now. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:50.360 You know, I know about this said, this is why 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.919 Ramona is here. So let's get right into that. Okay, 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.639 perfect cause you know all right, so let's flash back 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.360 to part of the reason why we're here today. I 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.959 saw you post something on social media, right, somebody stole 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:04.639 your range rover. 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:07.680 You one of the first people that called me, you. 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:08.200 Know, my ass. 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:09.919 I seen her post. I was like, what the fact 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.120 going on? Because she hadn't told me anything about it. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.880 I said her posted, and I know you weren't answering 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.880 anyone's cause, but she didn't answer my call because I 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.480 know your phone went crazy after that, so crazy. So 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.639 what got you to the point where you were like, okay, 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:23.160 I have to post about this. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:29.880 Okay, So I definitely debated posting about it. I obviously 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.800 got my range Rover stolen, and so I went to 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.280 the police. I fouled a police report and everything kind 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:41.000 of started unfolding during COVID. So because of that, I 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.840 think they were just very relaxed when my situation and 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.240 it's not a violent crime, so it's not at the 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.840 top of their list as a priority. And for me 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:55.960 it had been well over sixty days. I wasn't getting 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.600 any kind of response to detective I felt wasn't really 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.760 on his job, and so I said, you know what, 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:08.120 I have this platform and I need to use it 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:09.320 for good now. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:09.920 I was. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.920 Anxious, nervous. I went back and forth with Mona, like 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.840 what should I say, What should I post? What pictures 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.279 am I going to use? You know, you just never 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.600 know how people are going to respond to something like that, 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.440 And it was a first time for me, and it 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.159 was a time where I had to post and be 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.600 vulnerable because if I was going to tell the story, 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.880 I just had to just put it out there. And 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.280 if we were going in, people were going. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.640 In, Like you didn't arrange overstolen. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.600 But I think that is a problem in society today. 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:47.240 We victim blame and it's like I didn't do anything. Unfortunately. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.880 I just was a trusting person, but I trust the 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:50.600 wrong person. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.160 And the police also probably looked at it like, well, 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:54.360 that was her boyfriend, so. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.919 Right, So it's considered like a love crime, and you 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:00.760 know a lot of times there's just think, oh, well, 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.280 this person is angry or they're bitter, whatever the case is, 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.719 and that absolutely was not the case with me. I'm like, 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:13.880 I have a whole car that is gone missing. So yeah, 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:17.240 I just decided to use my platform and post about it, 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:21.839 and I really put okay, contacts MYRNA police or contact Jamie, 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.719 which is my attorney, because I wanted help with this situation. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.240 Why do you have your car in the first place. 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:28.160 Let's break that down. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:30.679 Oh my god. I feel like I'm talking a story 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:31.440 a million times. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.719 But if people don't go because you know, people see 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:35.280 the posts and they're like, oh, she said, how you 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:35.960 just took her car? 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:43.040 Right? Okay? So basically I was moving from California to 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:47.200 Atlanta and I had an issue with my closing. Now 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.520 in a process I was supposed to be closing. I 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.440 want to say I was on a flight. Maybe it 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.719 was like Wednesday. I was supposed to be closing that Friday. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.800 I had to go to Miami that Friday. I had 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.839 two cars, and so I was thinking, Okay, after I closed, 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.680 I'll be able to drive my car straight into my garage. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.359 That wasn't the case. And I found that as I 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.520 was getting off the plane. And so he's somebody I 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.960 knew in Atlanta. We have been sating, and I was like, 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:15.440 oh my god, Like, what am I going to do 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:17.640 with my cars? Like I have to leave town because 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.320 I had to go to Miami for work, and so 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:25.440 I took my Ferrari to like the shop and then 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.600 he was like, okay, well I can hold onto your 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:29.200 range roomer. 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:34.040 I ain't hold okay sorry. 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.640 So I was like, okay, I had been to his house. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.480 I had seen he had a four car garage. I'm thinking, okay, 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.800 I never in a million years would think that somebody 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.040 was still my car. It's just you know, and then 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:51.120 somebody I know, somebody at the time I trusted. It 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.200 would be like if you were like, hey, I'm hand 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.600 me to him. I know. I'm just saying I just 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.880 like You're like, I go down the street to the CBS, 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:03.800 you know, like, I wouldn't think anything of it. So 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.400 I'm just thinking, like, Okay, I'm going to Miami, I'm 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.000 coming back. And I honestly, I wasn't stressed about the 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.000 car because I was more so stressed about damn, what's 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.400 going on with this housing right right, because I'm like 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.440 the car whatever, Like now all my stuff is in 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.840 transit from LA to a Lama. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.160 It was a stressful time, Yes, had a lot going on. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:25.520 You were like, I just need to put my car. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.320 Somewhere, right, That is how he got the car. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:28.560 Right. 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.160 In retrospect, You're like, I should have just parked at 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.000 the airport exactly. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:33.880 It would have definitely been safer there. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.320 Now let's fast forward to how you know Mona then, 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:39.840 because you guys met it was hard to find any 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:44.120 information online. This man. You thought his name is Nick 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:45.400 at the time, right. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.880 Yeah, so I thought his name was Daniel Nichols. 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.680 Okay, completely different, Okay, cletely. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.960 And he just went by Nick as a nickname. That's 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:59.200 what I was told. So it wasn't until now my 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.520 range drove stolen and I'm kind of going into like 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.480 detective mode because I'm still kind of thinking, like, you 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:07.360 know why he's gonna give me the car back, Like, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:12.200 but my Spidey senses are going off, right. So I 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.800 knew his mom had passed away, but I didn't really 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.239 know if his mother had passed away. But I was like, Okay, 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.720 his mom passed away. I remember him kind of telling 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.120 me what his mother's name was, and I knew where 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.720 he was from. He was from Michigan. I didn't know 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:30.560 exactly what area, so I just start googling and I 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.040 found his mother's obituary. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.680 M wow, so he telling her real name. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:39.200 So in the mother's obituary, that's when I found out 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.120 his real name. I was like, who the hell is 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:48.840 Aaron Pushy Nichols? Pushy pushy name? Yes, you heard them say. 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.800 Pushy before, No, not until after. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.240 Okay, I guess his family calls him that. I said, 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:56.360 now is this so. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:08:58.280 Though? 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.720 Yes, it turns out Daniel is the middle name, but 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:02.240 you would. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:07.080 Okay, right, So then I put in Aaron Nichols. And 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:14.360 then I see Mona's post from Lipstick Ali, which happened 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.120 years prior. But then when I clicked on it, I 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:24.120 started seeing other people post I guess under her post. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:28.679 Okay. Now, the sad thing is I knew him a 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:33.520 million years before Jen did, and at the time, you know, 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.200 he portrayed himself as a totally different person, a different name, 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:42.120 he had a different business. So it wasn't until like 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.120 the end of our like five year relationship where I 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:49.680 started to find out information about him. Once I, you know, 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.760 got that information, I was like, okay, I'm done with him. 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.960 Some months after, I was contacted by one of his 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.720 baby mamas, who like explained to me how our situation 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.160 kind of overlapped and some more information about him, and 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.679 I was like, okay, this is crazy because you can 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.160 go on the internet and find anything about anybody except 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.000 for this man. So we took it upon ourselves to 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.080 put some things out there. She put together like a 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.760 website kind of like exposing him, and I was like, okay, 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.880 we put together to rip off report. And then I 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.600 knew that Lipstick Alley kind of had like some traction 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.120 is a gossip site, so I'm like, let me put 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.040 some information on here. I did, like a don't datum 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:29.120 girl type what I. 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:35.160 Remember that everything. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:35.480 Right? 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.360 There was nothing about him, so I wanted. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.960 I did if you didn't. If a guy like did 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.480 you dirty? You could post his picture and what he 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.360 did to you on don't datumgirl dot com, but they've 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:48.160 been took that down. 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.760 Yeah, exactly, So this was a way to kind of 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.760 warn other people that he's not who he says he 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:57.200 what did he do to you? Well, when I met him, 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.480 he kind of portrayed himself as like, you know, a 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:05.600 business but he you know, was into like luxury cars 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.640 that you know, he said he was a retired athlete 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:13.480 at the time. Lies I know. So I actually met 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.880 him in LA and I was living in New York 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.960 at the time. It was like a weird kind of whirlwind, 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.679 like a quick twenty four hours, like we spent that 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.800 whole time together and you know, my nose is open 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.160 and I was like, wow, who is this guy? And 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.440 it was weird because when I first met him, I 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.160 was in LA, just kind of walking because you know, 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.400 we walk all over New York. I'm thinking, no biting 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.120 do exactly in La, right, not in La. So I 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:40.880 didn't know that this is like my first time out there. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.000 I'm walking along and it so happened. I kind of 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:44.839 walked through a crowd because you know, New Yorkers were like, 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.400 move out the way, and I moved. I like walked 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.920 onto a red carpet, which is like the weirdest thing. 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.280 So people were like taking pictures on your work. Got 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.040 out here right, I was like, like, it's right in 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.400 front a man's theater like crazy. He comes up and 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.439 he just grabs my hand and I'm like, who's this food? 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.360 And it was like electricity, like all throughout my body. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.040 It wasn't until later I realized my whole every cell 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.400 was like run, get the fuck away. But at the 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.719 time that had never happened to me before. So I'm 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.960 kind of like, you know, who is this guy? Like 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.080 what does this mean? And then he was like, you know, 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:18.840 like he pulled me off the red carpet and we 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.240 started talking and there was a guy with him who 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:26.679 was like, He'll change your life all these little things exactly, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.560 all these little lies exactly, like you know, hindsight is 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:34.520 twenty twenties got Lasik. So we wind up going into 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.840 the movie that was premiering on that you know day, 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.760 and he said he helped produce the movie lies again. 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.920 So we're sitting in the movie. You know, there were 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.000 other pseudo celebs there, you know, and he pretended as 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.400 though he knew them, and you know, so we're sitting 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.560 in a movie, but I couldn't even sit next to him, 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.400 so it was like it just felt like so weird. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.840 So maybe twenty thirty minutes into the movie, he's like, 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.080 you want to get out of here? I'm like sure. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.880 So we wind up leaving, and like I said, we 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.320 spent that whole day together just kind of exploring, you know, 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:07.280 la and you know, I met him walking. It wasn't 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.720 until like after the movie we wind up getting into 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.199 I think it was like a brand new BMW or 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.400 Mercedes or some like expensive car or whatever, like Okay, 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:18.800 so no, I wasn't even know what I'm saying. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.600 It's a coincidence, Like you didn't know it, but you're like, wow, 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.640 I really just because in a way you have to 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.560 think like I did, kind of like look up what 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.280 I feel electricity and he's this and he's that, and he. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.280 Kind of like telling people like, oh, I met her walking, 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.320 like she wasn't even impressed by whatever money that I 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.080 had because I met her walking. So, like I said, 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.120 we spent that whole night together and it was just 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.520 like amazing, you know, for you know, a guy that 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.000 I just met and you know, I was letting night together. Yeah, 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:49.439 I spent the night whatever. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.080 Because I want to get more I know of what, 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.880 like what he's like. So yeah, he really knocked you 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.920 up your feet, like y'all spent the night together, like 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:59.520 and that's not something you would normally do. You met 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.920 Amalek and then he had all this shit happening. It 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.199 was electricity. For you, that electricity was really like it away, 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.680 but you misinterpreted it very much. 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:13.400 So so for me, he is very charming. So did 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.040 you feel that electricity too, Jennifer. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:22.200 I didn't feel electricity, but I felt, okay, I'm gonna 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:23.960 let her tell her story because I don't I don't 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.280 want it, like okay, but I did not feel electricity, okay. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.120 But you know the next day I had like something 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:32.760 to do and he was kind of like, you know, hey, 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.880 let's go to Vegas. And I'm like, okay, I kind 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:36.920 of have like a prior engagement, but you know, after 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.000 I'm done with that, then you know, sure, let's go 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.320 to Vegas, which was like very spontaneous at the time, 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.160 I was super spontaneous, so it was that big of 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:48.800 a deal, and then we were gonna take like his 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:52.760 car and I guess just drive to Vegas after I 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:54.320 was done with whatever it is that I had to 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.200 do like in LA and I was like, okay, I'm ready. 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.080 He's like, oh I left without you. And I was like, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:02.240 well damn, but exactly like okay, exactly like you know 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.320 bait and switch, which he does a lot. So I'm like, 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:05.880 all right, cool, whatever it is, what it is. I 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.000 went back to New York and then he called like 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.720 a lot all the time, text message all the time. 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.920 Like I wasn't even con like taken into consideration the 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:18.080 time difference, Like at the time, I had like a 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.800 regular ninety five whatever. He's calling me at like seven 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.880 in the morning. You were very successful in what you 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:26.080 did at that time, right, So, like you know, he 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.480 would call it like seven in the morning, but that 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.840 was like four o'clock West Coast time, you know, But 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.000 I didn't think anything of it. He would call like midday, 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:34.880 he would call before I would go to bed. So 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:41.360 we're starting this little you know, right that part that part, 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.160 So we're starting this weird little like relationship or whatever. 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.680 But even before that, like I went back to New York. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:48.320 A week later, he's like, come back out to LA. 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.680 I came back out to LA to meet him a house, No, 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.800 I you please. Yeah, there's no big thing. It's like, 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.080 take it to La is nothing. But once I got 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.480 to La, it was kind of like we were like 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.880 two shit. And then I like, he claimed he was 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:03.920 in the studio and I didn't even understand why he's 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:09.960 in the studio, but I was like, well, I'll entertain myself. 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.840 I knew people in LA, so I hung out with them, 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.480 and then he would go back to the hotel and 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.080 be like she's not here. I'm like, yeah, because I 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.400 was nested around and wait for your ass whatever. So 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.680 that didn't necessarily work, and I kind of went back 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:21.920 to New York like whatever, I'm not even tripping on him. 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.160 And that's when he kind of went back and pursued 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.400 and started calling all the time and really putting like 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.760 an effort in it. Then became a thing after some 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:32.600 months where he was just like, you know, I can't 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.680 do a long distance relationship. You need to come move 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.760 out here. He was living in Vegas at the time, 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.680 and I was kind of like, what was he doing 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.200 in Vegas? Did he say everything he was doing, everything 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:47.040 from he invested in real estate. He would, you know, 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.080 throw a couple of parties, like concerts, not necessarily like 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.240 you know, little parties. And then he said that like 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.920 his vice was luxury cars. So what he would do 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.320 is actually he would buy them just because he loved them, 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:00.880 but then he would I kind of rent them out 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:02.320 or least them out. So this is what he can 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:06.560 make some money off. He was like before, right, so clean. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.080 So I think at the time I just didn't necessarily 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.080 ask a lot of questions about what he did because 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.080 I'm just like, whatever, if he makes money, it's fine. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.040 I'm not tripping Like however he makes money, he doesn't 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:21.480 really concern me. But at the time, you know, I 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.600 wasn't incredibly happy being back in New York. So I 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.520 was like, hmmm, I'll consider Vegas. I thought about it, 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.040 and I was like, you know what, fuck it, I'll 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.600 try this relationship. And you know, he's not asking me 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.679 to move to the middle of nowhere. He's asking me 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.240 to move to Vegas, right, So I finally did, you know, 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.879 move out there. I packed all my belongings into like 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.720 the little car that I had and was going to 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.880 drive out there now. His thinking was, Oh, you don't 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:46.720 have to drive out there. I'll send someone to drive 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.840 your car. And I'm like, my whole life is in 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.840 his car. I don't know this person, right, He's like, well, 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.480 why would I put someone you? Like? Why don't you drive? 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.480 Come here and write? His whole thing was like, I 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.040 don't want your drive across country by yourself, and this 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.359 is somebody I trust. Of course, you know you're with me. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.040 Now I'm gonna whatever. So I'm like, it's a good thing. 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.080 I didn't like give them my car because I'm sure 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.639 I would have been asked out without whatever. But I 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.080 finally drove out to Vegas and we tried to make 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:13.199 it work. And when I got there, he started like 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:17.600 grooming me like he had Like I didn't meet like 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.720 any of his friends. Remember I met his friends in LA. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.040 But he introduced me to his cousin. It was like 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.160 this female who was kind of curvey, you know, who 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:32.000 danced at the time. So she was he was talking about, 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.679 you know, did you ever think about dancing? And I'm like, no, 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.520 I'm no, at was that really his cousin? I have 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.919 no idea, okay, So I'm like, no, I'm like, I 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.120 have a master's degree, like I can always get a job, 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:45.879 Like what do I need to dance for? Like that 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.960 would be like last you know, case scenario whatever, Like 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.200 I don't need to do that. And initially I was 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.280 kind of like but I didn't even think I could. 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.120 Like I was like really thin and didn't really have 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.200 like a lot of curves, and I'm like dancers usually, 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:01.560 you know kind of you know, So I'm like, I 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.359 can't do this, and then he's like, no, you know, 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:06.800 you're sexy. You can definitely do and I'm like, yeah, no, 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.680 that's not what I'm thinking. And then he was like, well, 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:12.840 you know, I'm bringing money to the table. You know, 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.400 you need to bring money to the table too. So 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.760 this was like his way of grooming me, you know, 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.520 like if I'm gonna be working, hustling whatever it is 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:22.080