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Speaker 1: on Saturday early evening, reacting to the Braves loss the

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Speaker 1: seventh out of eighth series of the Marlins have come

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Speaker 1: up short of their opponent, as well as looking ahead

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Speaker 1: to the final leg of this road trip against the Rockies.

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Speaker 1: There's just not a whole lot of new for me

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Speaker 1: advocating for the call ups, abserving guys who are not

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Speaker 1: are really difficult to solve. At this particular point on

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Speaker 1: the baseball calendar, I just wanted to mention, of course,

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Speaker 1: my Fish Prospects of the Week, as I do on

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Speaker 1: every Monday, so this week covering from May twenty third

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Speaker 1: through the twenty ninth. On the pitching side, Brian Hoeing,

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Speaker 1: who I believe has won this distinction before, going eight

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Speaker 1: scoreless endings for Triple A Jacksonville. It's been a big

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Speaker 1: breakout year for him. The twenty nineteen draft pick. Would

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Speaker 1: On the hitting side, I'll go with Troy Johnston and

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Speaker 1: He's somebody that has dropped considerably on my Marlins prospect list,

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Speaker 1: Lots of doubles power from this first baseman in his

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Speaker 1: first year at the Double A level. An honorable mention

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Speaker 1: to Braxton Garrett, who had been out for a few

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Speaker 1: to TRIPLEO. This was his first outing with the Shrimp,

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Speaker 1: the Marlins rotation right now. So good to see from him.

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Speaker 3: just get right into that. Isaac, what were your thoughts

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Speaker 4: Game that they were not gonna win.

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Speaker 5: So I think if they wanted any chance to win

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Speaker 4: And now they got a tough test in Denver starting tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: And we were we talked about this game with Max Freed,

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Speaker 1: to marinate in it. Yeah, these were just hanging. It

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Speaker 1: the playoff Nick just simply do not have these kind

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Speaker 1: Which series did they win against the Nationals? Nationals, against

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Speaker 1: The difference between these teams. It's not very big entering series,

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Speaker 3: Yeah for the ones wondering how the Marlins actually scored

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Speaker 3: first inning that I was a bomb homer in twenty

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Speaker 3: nine ballparks, not cam Din Yards obviously, and then another

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Speaker 3: two run shot with John with it was Nick Fords

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Speaker 3: Sol there with another home run. Now with fourteen on

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Speaker 3: the year, no thirteen, I'm sorry, eleven eleven ship.

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Speaker 1: Which is good, which is good. That puts him on

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Speaker 3: right away. Isaac, you were talking a lot about Fortes

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Speaker 1: What do you do about?

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Speaker 1: the forty man roster either, so they would have to

434
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Speaker 1: find a way to get him on that makes sense.

435
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 1: That's one scenario. And Dela Cruz has been the one

436
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: that has been avoiding a lot of the heat because

437
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 1: the expectations on him have never been as high as

438
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Speaker 1: on Sanchez. But he's had a really bad week. I

439
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 1: don't think he had a hit all week, and he

440
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 1: made he was in right field today, made a really

441
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 1: bad play defensively, must have been a pretty routine out

442
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Speaker 1: and turned it into I guess was double and made

443
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: things even tougher on it was Ellie Iszard and they

444
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: may have already gone to the bullpen at that point. Yeah,

445
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: that came back to hurt them in that situation as well.

446
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: And so his overall numbers at this point are not

447
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: that much different than Sanchez, even though he's a more

448
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 1: aesthetically pleasing type of player. He's the fundamentally sound player

449
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 1: more so, but there's just, yeah, not a lot of

450
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: great options at this point. It's something I'd have to

451
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Speaker 1: think more about, is to when when to pull the

452
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Speaker 1: trigger on sending Sanchez down. This is a pretty extended stretch.

453
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Speaker 1: Because we talked about the Marlins being bad throughout all

454
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Speaker 1: of April. This goes back with Sanchez to late April,

455
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Speaker 1: which just said that. Yeah, so it's been a longer

456
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Speaker 1: for him individually. This has been a longer slump than

457
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Speaker 1: even the team itself. Well, it's a pretty big sample

458
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 1: that something's not right. They tried giving him a couple

459
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: of days off at certain points, So they've tried that,

460
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: which has been That's a pretty common tactic of giving

461
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Speaker 1: guys that mental reset, and it hasn't made much of

462
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 1: a difference for him. So I yeah, I think they

463
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Speaker 1: have to seriously consider considering where they are on the

464
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: standings and how urgently they have to win games. It's yeah,

465
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Speaker 1: I think at the very least that he won't be

466
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Speaker 1: playing a ton. This won't be starting a ton in

467
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: this rocky series playing this is the biggest outfield in baseball,

468
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Speaker 1: So I think this is an excuse to use Dela

469
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: Cruz more defensively. I think that's the one thing that

470
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Speaker 1: you think he could do a little bit better than Sanchez.

471
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Speaker 1: It's definitely cover that ground. That's that's one thing that

472
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Speaker 1: I would hope that they do is rely on the guy.

473
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Speaker 1: With every game being so precious, I think this is

474
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Speaker 1: you're not going to see Sanchez playing every day at

475
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Speaker 1: least for another foreseeable future.

476
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Speaker 5: Yeah, his last fourteen games, he's you know, slashing twos,

477
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 5: getting on base at two forty three, so ps is

478
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 5: below five point fifty.

479
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 4: So you know, you're not exactly replacing him with Mickey Mantle.

480
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be a tough

481
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 4: stretch for Miami.

482
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we we mentioned the offense, this is getting

483
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Speaker 3: to the defense as well. I guess really we could

484
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: say that that series in Miami against the Braves where

485
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 3: where he couldn't make that catch in center field, just

486
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 3: a bad route running. Because to be honest that you know,

487
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: early April, that that first portion of the season, when

488
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 3: the team was on that seven game win street, things

489
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: were clicking. He looked pretty good in center field. You know,

490
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 3: he looked like a Servosabowl center fielder that could really

491
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 3: get it going, but that just hasn't been the case.

492
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Speaker 3: And you know you mentioned Gerrar. I mean, I guess

493
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 3: we should talk about him a little bit. Twenty twenty two,

494
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 3: he's hitting three fifty five, three ninety six, five seventy three,

495
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: nine sixty nine with eleven home runs. In Triple A,

496
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 3: he's hitting two seventy three, three oh four, five forty six,

497
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 3: eight fifty three home runs. This guy is currently actually

498
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Speaker 3: on the forty man rosters. So making that move of

499
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 3: sending down Sanchez and bringing up a guy like Jowar

500
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: would be a lot easier. But now that just gets

501
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: a little bit harder because of visl Garcia is back

502
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: with the team. Potit goes to the I l in.

503
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 3: Joe Dunian is df fade. I don't I expect him

504
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: to just get outright into Triple A. To be honest,

505
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 3: I'm surprised if he gets picked up. But I guess

506
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 3: we should start with the Potit move, which is the

507
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: one that I guess really wasn't expected. Someone complained about it,

508
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: but Isaac, what were your thoughts on the current moves

509
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: that were made?

510
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, against Potiti he was roughed up in Tampa

511
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 5: Bay have a five runs. I think it was in

512
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 5: the first inning, So I guess maybe you could sort

513
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 5: of put it on that it's gonna be tough. It's like,

514
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 5: you know, that's why we're talking about Edward Cabert, you know, Botit, Luzardo,

515
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 5: A bunch of guys injured.

516
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's tough to see.

517
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Speaker 5: Hopefully, I from what I understand, it's not too serious

518
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 5: own injury. I guess they had a dfa Joe Dunans,

519
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 5: my good pal, just to make room on the forty

520
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 5: men again for Aby, which you know kind of stinks,

521
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 5: but hey, that's just I guess the way he goes,

522
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 5: I think he'll go. Like you said, Kevin will probably

523
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 5: be outrighted back to Triple A. I hope, but it

524
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 5: doesn't really make much sense to lose him to another team,

525
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 5: so I assume they're pretty confident that he'll stay within

526
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 5: the organization.

527
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 3: So I'll ask you to see, Joe Duna was on

528
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 3: the forty man. I had no idea.

529
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they I think, if I'm understanding this correctly,

530
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: they handled it kind of sloppily, like if they had

531
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: removed him directly in exchange for either Birdie or Blier,

532
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: then do because they were the COVID cases, that they

533
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: would be allowed to slide him off the forty man

534
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: without having to DFA him like they did with Eric Gonzalez.

535
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: With er Gonzalez, they did not DFAI. They called it

536
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: what they returned, substitute player. That's terminology. With Dunant, they

537
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: kept him around a little bit longer after they I

538
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: should say that they sent him down I think in

539
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: exchange for Wendell, right, and Wendel was not a COVID case,

540
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: so they sent him down, and I think at that

541
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: point he was just a regular forty man guy at

542
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: that point. So then after by making that order of operations,

543
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: sending him down one day before Bertie actually came back,

544
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: I think that's how they got into this situation. I

545
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: would assume that they did this with a very strong

546
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: belief that he's going to clear waivers and stay in

547
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: the organization. It's going to be a bad look if

548
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: they don't, because this seems to be my understanding, very

549
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: easy to have avoided this if they were super worried

550
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: about losing du nand if they were, they thought they

551
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: were going to lose him We'll see how it plays

552
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: out over the next few days. But I think the

553
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: signals that they're confident that he's going too clear, he's

554
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: going to stay in the organization, and this is I'm

555
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: going to do this more offense, actually show people what

556
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: the roster looks like at any given moment when we

557
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: talk about this stuff. Because we already covered Eddie Cabrera.

558
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: He's coming back up and he's going to join this

559
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: pitching staff, So we should probably talk about who they

560
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: send down in place for Cabrera, because this is a

561
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: full roster. Now, it's fourteen hitters, it's twelve pitchers. They're

562
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: going to send down a hitter when they bring up Eddie,

563
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: and so who do you this is something this is interesting.

564
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: Who it's going to be. I guess it could be Ostadillo.

565
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: It could be Dela Cruz or Sanchez. Those are really

566
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 1: the options at this point, and I think a lot

567
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: of people assume Ostadillo. Then again, we know that Dela

568
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: Cruze has already been sent down a couple of times

569
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: this year, once in spring training and called up before

570
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: opening Day, and then they try they send them down

571
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: before the COVID stuff happens in San Diego and immediately

572
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: brought him back. That so what that will That'll be

573
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: curious exactly what they do here. I think I would certainly.

574
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: I actually don't know because we just had this conversation

575
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: about Sanchez and how he could probably uh that might

576
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: be the right step at this point, given his extended struggles.

577
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: So I actually don't want to make any assumptions. I

578
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: just want to point out that they are going to

579
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: before Tuesday's game, when Caprera's going to start, They're going

580
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: to send down one of those hitters and could be

581
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: asked and people won't really mind it much. Or it

582
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: could be the popular Dela Cruz or the highly touted

583
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: Sanchez and that would be a pretty big deal. But

584
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: they can go a few different directions here.

585
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: Man, I don't know the severity of you know, his

586
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 4: back spasms. But maybe another one is that Brian Anderson

587
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 4: goes on the.

588
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 5: IL attend there. I said, I don't know the severity

589
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 5: of it. You know, if it's like a yellig situation

590
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 5: where he had really lingering back issues. If I remember

591
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 5: Curly was like the first time that BA has ever

592
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 5: dealt with something like this, So I ext be fine.

593
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 5: But that is another option, But I'm with you that

594
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 5: I would be Ado in my opinion.

595
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: I think, you know, if BA.

596
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 5: Is fine, then maybe it can be one of the

597
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 5: outfielders in DLC or Hayes Shoes. I don't know if

598
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: popular is the word. I guess to know what he's popular,

599
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: but I like him.

600
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: A lot too. I've just I could be honest about

601
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: his level of performance, whereas Noah is a little bit biased.

602
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, thirty home runs for Brian Dayla Cruz. Ye know,

603
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: I'm with it.

604
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 5: It's either a b a il Stints or or one

605
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 5: of those Rosudi or one of the outfielders.

606
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: For sure. It's the only options.

607
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: So I guess we could expect be A to not

608
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: play this series in Colorado. So if I think he's

609
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: not going to play the whole thing, then you send

610
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: down Sanchez. I would put him in the I l

611
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: you know, Okay, well, then there's the.

612
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: Day off or no, there's actually no day off this week, so.

613
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: No, there isn't.

614
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: So all right.

615
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: The only reason why I would say Sanchez is because

616
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: let's say Anderson doesn't play this series, You're gonna have

617
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: to put Bird in the outfield a lot more so,

618
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: meaning us studio will have a need in the infield,

619
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: you bring up Eddie, so maybe it's time for Sanchez

620
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: to go down. And also they've been trying to send

621
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 3: down Brian to La Cruz since spring training, so they

622
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: send him down in spring training, he stays on the

623
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: roster because of the expansion. Then I think it was

624
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: after the Anaheim Series he gets sent down once again,

625
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 3: but immediately called up.

626
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: Yes, I just said that Kevin, we got covering.

627
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: Oh you did, okay, Okay, so I guess we could

628
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: go on.

629
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Speaker 5: I think one thing that they might that might make

630
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 5: Marlins reluctant and sending down Sanchi is that, you know,

631
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 5: there's only three lefties, you know, offensive players, so they

632
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 5: might want to just keep one of them because really,

633
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 5: besides Wendell and Chaz, yeah, Hagus.

634
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 4: Is the last one.

635
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 5: So unless they want to call up La Da, I

636
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 5: think they're gonna I don't think they're gonna send down

637
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 5: Sanchi yet. I think if we go into like seventh

638
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 5: or eighth of June and he's still struggling, they will

639
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 5: for sure send him down.

640
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 4: But I don't think. I don't think that's gonna be

641
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 4: the move.

642
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, surprisingly Mickey Rose hitting better than Sanchi,

643
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: and Jacob Stallings is hitting better than Sanchi. So that's

644
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: that's us quite a lot. But I think we could

645
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: go into a Loop at and we'll be right back.

646
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me two seconds.

647
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 4: To find it.

648
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: There we go.

649
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: Why bother with empty shelves at retail stores, waiting three

650
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661
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: should talk about a little bit of these minor leaguers, because,

662
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: as you mentioned, I think we're talking about this today

663
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: in the morning before before the game, I think Alex

664
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: mentioned that Alex Carver mentioning how some guys aren't getting

665
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: the chance they deserve, like Charles LeBlanc, Leywan Diaz, Jeron

666
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: Carnacion and a guy like Lorenzo Quintana maybe who's down there,

667
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: but that probably won't happen due to fort Is not

668
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: being backup. So I guess we could start with Isaac.

669
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: I mean, we're the guys that you think deserve a

670
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: chance to be down there and should just be a

671
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: Major League right now, because I mean, lay one's kind

672
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: of difficult to have him up right now because we

673
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: Aggie and Coop are just absolutely dominating this month of May,

674
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: both of them hitting over two fifty. You're just slugging

675
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: over that five hundred marker. It's it's very impressive what

676
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: they're doing. And if it wasn't for where the Cooper

677
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: and Aggie homers on Friday, this Miami team would not

678
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: be in that position where they were in that game.

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00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think the one guy, I think

680
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 5: those two guys the mentioned Cooper and Aguilar there, I

681
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 5: think Jerar is one injury away to having you know,

682
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 5: one of those guys get going down being called up.

683
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 4: He's really earned a spot.

684
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 5: You know, he killed Pensacola all years, having an ops

685
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 5: of over a thousand. Jacksonville he's played really well, hitting

686
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 5: two seventy three and also slugging well over five hundred.

687
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Speaker 4: So I think he's the guy that I really like this.

688
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: He's like someone that could really put a jolt in

689
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 5: the lineup, you know, and has like lights, tower powers,

690
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 5: some of the most best brought power in the entire system.

691
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 5: So he's the guy who I really think has earned

692
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 5: a spot, and he's been on the forty man for

693
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 5: a while now, I think for this is what thirty

694
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 5: year perhaps.

695
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 4: On the forty man.

696
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think he's a name that really sends

697
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 5: out to me of Desserni a chance laywin also as well.

698
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 5: But they they're really congested in that in that first

699
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 5: HDH spot because I wouldn't really trust Jarar in right

700
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 5: field at this point. I think that there's a reason

701
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 5: they put him at first base in the minors, so

702
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 5: I think that they're gonna have to do something eventually

703
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 5: about that. But to answer your question, Gerar for me,

704
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 5: who would.

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Speaker 1: It be for you, mister Eli, Yeah, probably the same

706
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: thing I like. And I've used this comp a lot before.

707
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: I think it still applies. Even though people are getting

708
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: really excited about Gerrar's production, is that it does use.

709
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: This player profile is a lot like Garrett Cooper. To me,

710
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to dominate the whole league,

711
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: but I think his absolute best case scenario is that

712
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: he develops enough of this played approach to draw his

713
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: walks when he doesn't get hits. It's make enough loud

714
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: contact when he does get into good counts to maintain

715
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: a high batting average and a really good selling percentage

716
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 3: With Cooper.

718
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: Now, Cooper is just a lot older. We need to

719
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Speaker 1: keep in mind like that Cooper is now thirty one

720
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: and Drar is still only twenty four. So that's one

721
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: reason why I guess at this stage of his career

722
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: they've kind of given up the idea of Cooper playing

723
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: any outfield, whereas I think eventually Gerrar is going to

724
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: reach the same point as well. For the meantime, his

725
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: fit on this team and the reason why he might

726
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: be up before laywin or get more playing time than

727
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: him this year potentially has something to do with that.

728
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: He can at least fake it he lose, has the

729
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: arm for that position and at least has a lot

730
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Speaker 1: of experience there, even though he's made a lot of

731
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: mistakes there as well. So I like them both very much.

732
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: I like Leywin as a player overall more. But I

733
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Speaker 1: just understand that the way they've aligned this roster, whether

734
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: they've set it up with both Aguilar and Cooper at

735
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: the same time, it just makes it even more difficult

736
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Speaker 1: for him to fit in. I know all of us.

737
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Speaker 1: I think on the last stream, the news broke about

738
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Speaker 1: Avi Garcia going to the IL, and we presumed that,

739
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: just like some of the other recent examples of IL stints,

740
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: that it was going to be a positive COVID case,

741
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: that he was going to be out a while, and

742
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: that would have created some really interesting decisions if he

743
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: was going to miss significant amount of time. You know,

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00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: Thankfully for for his sake, he's fine. It was a

745
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: false positive or fall symptoms. He's back in record time,

746
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: and that just me and said, it's a longer wait

747
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: until we really get to have these conversations and understand

748
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: how they fit into this roster.

749
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Speaker 3: YEP, I think it's time to preview the next series

750
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: to Marlins. Going into they were going to Course Field

751
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: to play the Colorado Rockies. The team was twenty one

752
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 3: and twenty six at the moment last time, Miami went

753
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: to Colorado. It was not fun, not fun at all.

754
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 3: There was an incident there we won't talk about that.

755
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 3: The Marlins almost got twenty runs score on them. And

756
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 3: I think we all predicted that the Marlins would sweep,

757
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 3: or most of us did at least. So the line

758
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: starters are Pablo Lopez versus Ryan Feltner. Tomorrow it'll be

759
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: I guess now Edward Cabrera versus Hermont Marquez. And I

760
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 3: think the line starter for the Marlins is Trevor Rodgers.

761
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: I'm not sure who it is for Colorado, but that

762
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: would be the third game. Miami's going into courts Field

763
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: where hitters have fun. We could say that one. So Isaac,

764
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: go to your original, your your original thoughts on this

765
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: team and going into the series against the Rockies.

766
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: What the crust man. They have a better record than

767
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 4: the Marlins.

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00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 5: That's not by much, but yeah, yeah, pretty chill record.

769
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 5: Like I mentioned offstream that this is not a very

771
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 5: good ball club. They obviously played much better at home.

772
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 5: They just lost a couple of games to the Nationals

773
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 5: this weekend, so you know, they're coming off a sort

774
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 5: of a shitty series against Washington Nets. So I think

775
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 5: this is a time for you know, you have one

776
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: of your cy young competitors out there for Game one,

777
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 5: you have Edward Coberra, Game two, Trevor Rodgers Game three.

778
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 5: So this is a series where you should win two

779
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 5: out of three, but we say that every time. So

780
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 5: I'm pretty confident that Miami will win. I'm not gonna

781
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 5: spoil my prediction, but that I would say that Colorado

782
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 5: is not at full strength right now.

783
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are not a great team. Yeah lost the

784
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: Nats also lost the Pirates right before that. As you

785
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: can see, they played better at home, so that's something

786
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: that there's a little more weight on their home road

787
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: splits than other teams. Players that have been with the

788
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: Rockies talk about this, how the ball travels so much

789
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: differently home and away, and you usually think about it

790
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: from the pitchers perspective, but also for the hitters. It

791
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: is the Rocky hitters that get so used to playing

792
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: in high altitude and then all of a sudden, it's normal.

793
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: They struggled to make that adjustment. I feel bad for

794
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: that franchise. There's a reason why the franchise hasn't won

795
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: a World Series, but I think they've only been to

796
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: one and they got sweat. So they it's tough. They

797
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: that is that what makes them so unique and what

798
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: the fans really like. The fans love Course Field and

799
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: all that, but it's difficult to feel the competitive team

800
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: up there. It is in some aspects of disadvantage for them. Yeah,

801
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: you mentioned the last time they were in Course Field

802
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: to like go back to that series more so maddenly

803
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: was out due to COVID. That was one of the

804
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: series that James Rowson was in as Integram manager, and

805
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: he just did not have a real team to use.

806
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: They had David Hesse make a start. He was an

807
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: opener and I can't I'm not even gonna look it up.

808
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: He gave up an full of runs and like just

809
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: one inning. I don't know if he made it out

810
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: of one ending. So that series got really ugly in

811
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: a year where the Rockies were also pretty mediocre that

812
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: year as well, and this year got off to a

813
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: good start, but they've been about as bad as anybody

814
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: right up there, right down there with the Marlins over

815
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: the last few weeks in terms of just not doing

816
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: anything all that right. You said, Herman Marquez is one

817
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 1: of the projected starters here. He's been killing my fantasy team.

818
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be great this year and

819
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: he's having the biggest struggle of his entire careers at

820
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: this point. He's supposed to be the ace of their

821
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: rotation probably coming into this year. Instead he's getting crushed

822
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: and hit around so much. A six point thirty er,

823
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: he's lot more runs and hits than any other pitcher

824
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: in baseball this season. And Evan brings up so Lair.

825
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: I think we were hearing that so Lair almost may

826
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 1: have had an offer from the Rockies this best offices.

827
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was like firmly reported. I

828
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: know that Mish had like floated at reference to that

829
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: at some point reference yes, that's whether that would make

830
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: sense or as I'm getting some engagement. What I like

831
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: about the Rockies is that their eSPI Nation site Purple Row.

832
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: There are a lot of fun so that should be

833
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: at least on Twitter will have some nice exchanges with them,

834
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: win or lose. But so Laire would this is going

835
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: to be pretty you would think a good series for him.

836
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: There have been a few balls this year, despite all

837
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: his home runs, a few balls that have been like

838
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: stopped on the warning track. And this is the exact

839
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: type of ballpark where those warning track balls everywhere else

840
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: they go over the wall. I talk to this in

841
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: the group chat Kevin about barrels and how a lot

842
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: of home runs, almost all home runs are barrels. But

843
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: in Colorado, because of the thin air, even if you

844
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: don't get all the ball, even if you like get

845
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: underneath it and it's not an actual barrel, it can

846
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: still go out. That's just that's the main difference in

847
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: playing conditions. So again I won't give away my pick

848
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: predictions quite yet. I am cautiously optimistic about this series.

849
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 5: I think obviously Garcia hits uh hits a four hundred

850
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 5: and sixty flutter this this series. That's That's one of

851
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 5: what hopefully really quick to remnant is that game that

852
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 5: Eli was referring to.

853
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: David has did start.

854
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 5: He threw one inning, gave up six hits, seven and runs,

855
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 5: and then John Gunther followed him for two and two

856
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 5: thirds and it gave up four and runs.

857
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 4: So it's not it's not a fun time.

858
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, games that I remember from those Rockies teams back

859
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: then again John Rodriguez listening along.

860
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

861
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: It was not a fun series in Colorado. So we

862
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: mentioned courts Field and everything that comes with that field,

863
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: So how much will that help the Marlins offensively? You know,

864
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: we mentioned Joa Soler, but jas Chisholm has has a

865
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: good amount of power. Hopefully this maybe could be the

866
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 3: series where he struggled in Atlanta. Just yes, just today,

867
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: Oh four with two k's not a good comeback for him.

868
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: So this, I guess is a question for both of you,

869
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: how much will help the Marlins? And who are you

870
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: most excited to see play course field?

871
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: Well, I'll flip it around about who. I guess we

872
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: could be somewhat concerned about this being Cabrera's first start

873
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: back in the majors since last year, about exactly how

874
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: this is going to go, where he could make good

875
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: pitches in Colorado and get bad results and what that

876
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: does to a pitcher's mentality. I think it's absolutely I

877
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: call to bring up now because of how much Iraqis

878
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: are struggling and how you need to win these games,

879
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: and he gives them a better opportunity to win these

880
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: games than like a bullpen game. Would that being said

881
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: by bringing him up, they want to keep him up

882
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: with Lozardo's injury situation, and now potit. This looks like

883
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: ideally they want Cabrera now to stick in the majors

884
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: the rest of the year, which means that you're looking

885
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: also past this one start as well. You want him

886
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: to you want success in this one start, but by

887
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: bringing him up, you're also looking to the big picture

888
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: as well, and you want you want him to get

889
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: into good habits and make good pitch decisions here made

890
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: some really questionable decisions last year that we kind of

891
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: drilled into about how he wasn't using his fastball as

892
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: much as anybody expected and despite having such a great pitch,

893
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: so things like that, you want you want him to

894
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: be able to separate the process from the results in

895
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: this outing, not to not to get too deep into

896
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: his own head because he has all the potential. So

897
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: that on the negative side, that's what I'm concerned about.

898
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: I already talked about Solair, but anybody else in mind,

899
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: Isaac that I have a good serious in your mind.

900
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 4: Potentially just mentioning Jazz.

901
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 5: You know, it was a tough game for him to

902
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 5: come by after not seeing major league pision for a week,

903
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 5: to come out and face a lefty in Max free

904
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 5: So that was tough for him, but of course it's

905
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 5: just like it affects everyone the same way.

906
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: You know, people have more. You know, the ball is troubled.

907
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 5: More for everyone who hits the ball well, So I

908
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 5: do think obviously aggress he has a benefit from it.

909
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 5: He's had a lot of balls that have really died

910
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 5: on the track as well as a layer. He said,

911
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: you know that one in Arizona, literally the longest single

912
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 5: I've ever seen in my life. So I think he's

913
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 5: someone he's someone that will benefit from from the thin

914
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 5: air for sure.

915
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 4: And Jazz too. I I like that pick.

916
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: I think this is a stadiumhere, I could see him

917
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 5: hitting for the cycle, you know. That's I think that's

918
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 5: another player that could where they go off this week.

919
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we mentioned Corsfield. The Rockies are four and

920
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 3: eleven this season in Corsefield to over five hundred, and obviously,

921
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: I mean that that's probably the best place to hit

922
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: for guys, for many hitters, and I think that's what

923
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 3: the case was last season they were over five hundred

924
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: at home in Colorado, so that shows a lot. The

925
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: last thing I want to talk about before were going

926
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: to predictions is how important is this series for the

927
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: Marlins as as as a whole for this season, And

928
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: I guess we could go we could start with Ising

929
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: and ended with Eli because I think we're talking about

930
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 3: this last series. Last stream, how we mentioned how important

931
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: this series could be for the Marlins, because you're kind

932
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: of falling out of it right now. There are seven

933
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: games under five hundred. I want to say, is what

934
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: they are at the moment with a nineteen to twenty

935
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: six record, fourth in the NAL East. They're in the

936
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: bottom bottom of the wild card and a wild card

937
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: race which should be up there. Yeah, it's right there

938
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 3: in Miami, just under Pittsburgh. They have the same record

939
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: as the Pirates, which is not good, a team that

940
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: barely made any changes to their roster with the Marlins

941
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: who went out there and spent big bucks supposedly. So

942
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: let's start with Isaac. How important is the series for

943
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 3: the Marlins season as a whole.

944
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 5: It's like deja vum. I feel like every series we're

945
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 5: just talking about how important it is to not fall

946
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 5: even further below five hundred. We were worried, Hey, if

947
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 5: they lose this series against Atlanta, they'll be seven. Here

948
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 5: we are they lose this series against Colorado at least

949
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 5: two out of three they'll be eight games. So I

950
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 5: think every series from here on how it's gonna be important.

951
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 5: They need to start stringing together consecutive series wins because

952
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 5: they're they're I'm not saying they're run out of time here,

953
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 5: but I think it was a Eli that said they

954
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 5: lose this the Brave series and then they lose a

955
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 5: rocky series, that it might be time to panic.

956
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'd be with them.

957
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 5: You have a tough past four game series against the Giants,

958
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 5: who are a great ball club, and then you have

959
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 5: the Mets for like six times in two weeks in

960
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 5: June right after, but they have them coming up. It's

961
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 5: a very important series. I think I could possibly see

962
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 5: them winning, like winning all three, but it's an extremely

963
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 5: important series for sure.

964
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned it. They played the Mets seven times

965
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: the two series. In the month of June. They played Philly,

966
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: which is you know, I'm looking at June in terms

967
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 3: of the teams are playing in the division. They're playing

968
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 3: pretty much almost their division in June except a series

969
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: against Houston, a three games set. They also played the

970
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 3: Cardinals in San Francisco, which will be the four game

971
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: set back at home. So Eli, I think, I mean,

972
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: Isac pretty much said your answer here, but.

973
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the series, Yeah he did. It's all been said.

974
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: I think this is really a must win series, and

975
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: I've been I've not used that phrase. I've been preaching

976
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: patients at this point. You just see the standings for themselves.

977
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: This is just the wild card. This isn't the whole

978
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: National League. This is just a wild card because we're

979
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: already forgetting about the division. Regardless of all the games

980
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: coming up with the Mets are not gonna catch some Mets.

981
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the Mets are as vulnerable now as they

982
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: will ever be without sures or without the garment. They're

983
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: still running away from the division. All focuses on the

984
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: wild card. They and you see that the wild card

985
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: race is a little bit stronger in the National League

986
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: than I even thought it would be at this point.

987
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: With are they going to finish ahead of the Padres

988
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: or the Cardinals or the Giants? The bat alone is

989
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: a pretty tough task, and to do that, I mean,

990
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: they've already played a lot of games. They're going to

991
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: play games against the Giants. So I guess the most

992
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: lenient way to look at it is probably that this

993
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: week is absolutely critical when they play a team like

994
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: the Giants that will be in their way in the

995
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: wild card race as well, that they're going to have

996
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: to be just They're going to have to be consistently

997
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: good team from this point all the way through the

998
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: end of the season in order to reach the postseason

999
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: because of how deep a hole they've already dug for themselves.

1000
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: You take it one step at a time. We're excited

1001
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: about some of the next men up in the organization

1002
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: in Triple A, but we've talked about how those guys

1003
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: are kind of blocked by veterans at the big league level,

1004
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: and for them to come up it would mean something

1005
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: bad in terms of the production of the guys who

1006
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: are actually counting on. Rockies are a bad team at

1007
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: this point, even though the record is better than the Marlins.

1008
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident that Marlins, all said and done, are

1009
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: going to be better than this team. You need to

1010
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: win games like this, you ideally you need to. This

1011
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: is exactly the same approach as to playing the Nationals.

1012
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: I think this is a team that is in the

1013
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: same bucket as the Nationals.

1014
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 4: Are one of the.

1015
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: Few teams that you just cannot afford to take lightly

1016
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: got a step on their necks, as they say, and

1017
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: they made little moves that we think help them do that,

1018
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: including calling up Eddie. I'm excited about Eddie.

1019
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: And you talk about consistency throughout the rest of the

1020
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: season in July, you're pretty much only playing Cincinnati and

1021
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh throughout that whole season, I mean month. I'm sorry,

1022
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 3: So that'll be the last on that. So let's go

1023
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: into predictions. I know we have the leader board rankings.

1024
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: I think Eli or Alex are at the top of

1025
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: that one.

1026
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: We don't need to see those.

1027
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Isaac is cut off from that one.

1028
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 3: Oh no, he's right there, six six points. So Alex

1029
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: leads it, followed by Eli. Then I'm right there.

1030
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: It's a tie at top of the standings. But I'm

1031
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: a nice guy, so I put Alex on top, even

1032
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: though we have the exact same number of points. We

1033
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: know him, we know he's a little sensitive to these

1034
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: type of things. He's having a great season, he's been

1035
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: playing picking very well, and I'm sure we'll get his

1036
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: picks before the series starts. I mean, I know that

1037
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: who's already sent in their predictions ahead of time, Daniel,

1038
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: but we still have time myself almost twenty four hours

1039
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: for Alex Noah to get in. We'll be sure to

1040
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: post all those on Twitter for accountability. This has been

1041
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: win or lose. This has been fun aspect of the

1042
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: show now that we're actually keeping track of all this stuff.

1043
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: Yep.

1044
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: So as usual, serious MVP and how many games the

1045
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: Marlins will win or lose. Let's start with Elis Sussman.

1046
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: I think the Marlins will win the series. I've been

1047
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: surprised that they've been as bad as they are, and

1048
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: I think they are going to win two out of three,

1049
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: not sweep it, even though they could really use a

1050
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: sweep one two out of three of losing Eddie Cabrera's

1051
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: debut of the season, I imagine we'll losing the middle

1052
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: game of it, but winning the other two even though,

1053
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: so we'll see how that plays out. And my series MVP,

1054
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to go really unconventional here. Not a hitter,

1055
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: not a starting pitcher, Anthony.

1056
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: Bass Wow, first reliever chose.

1057
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 1: They're going to bring Anthony Bass into some important spots

1058
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: in two of these next three games, and that he's

1059
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: going to get the job done. That's going to give

1060
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: him just enough win probability added to edge out any

1061
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: of you guys. Marlin's winning two out of three in Colorado.

1062
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: So this is the first reliever chosen on this this

1063
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: whole season, if I'm correct. So all right, and just

1064
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: for the fun of it, did the Heat Winson at ELI?

1065
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: Yes or no?

1066
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, they shock the world and they win series

1067
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: and they go on to the finals?

1068
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 3: All right, Isaac? Pretty much the same question who wins

1069
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 3: serious MVP? And if the Heat wins in it? Because

1070
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: why not?

1071
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 5: I think the Rockies state two out of three, I think, okay,

1072
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 5: I think we're gonna start just looking putting our heads

1073
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 5: towards twenty twenty three. I think they're win to it

1074
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 5: like it's not the sound two out of three. I

1075
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 5: think Ryan McMahon is the.

1076
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: Ryan McMahon. I think he's the series MVP.

1077
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 5: I have a I think Pablo might struggle a little

1078
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 5: bit and his start, and I think Edward, you know,

1079
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a tough tast for him in his

1080
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 5: first big leagu start of the year. Colorado somewhat of

1081
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 5: a good offense, I guess, but it'll be tough, and

1082
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 5: I think they maybe carve out one of the wins.

1083
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 5: I don't know which one, probably Wednesday, but I think

1084
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 5: they lose two out of three.

1085
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really don't blame you for making that pick

1086
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: because I think we all said that they would beat

1087
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks with one of the worst offenses in baseball

1088
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: at the.

1089
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 5: Time, and what they lost five out of the six

1090
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 5: games against the diamond Back.

1091
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, So there you have. I'm gonna go Marlin's

1092
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: take two out of three. I think they'll win. I

1093
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: think they win the Pablo start and they win the

1094
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 3: Trevor start who's lined up, although that Eddie Stark could

1095
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: be a win because of how bad Hermont Marquez has

1096
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: been this season, which could really go sweep. But I'm

1097
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: not gonna do that series MVP. I'm gonna go Joge Stilaire.

1098
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: I think every time we choose him he never wins it.

1099
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 3: But I think this will be the right time for

1100
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: him to win. He's in course field, so we could

1101
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 3: see what could have done in a full season in Colorado.

1102
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: Only three games, so I think that is where we

1103
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: will end it. From Eli Isaac, myself, Noa, and Alex

1104
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: who weren't here, Daniel Rodriguez. You said they would take

1105
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: two out of three with C. J. Crohn as his MVP.

1106
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 3: Very nice pick there. We'll see you guys all in

1107
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 3: the next one. Beast out and go Fish.