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Speaker 1: Hello guys, I'm coming to you from Boulder, Colorado for

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Speaker 1: a very special edition of Club Shade. Shade on the

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Speaker 1: Road with Coach Prime. You don't want to miss this one.

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Speaker 1: All my life, the grinding all my life, psycri fice, hustle,

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Speaker 1: back pricing, Want a slice? Got the browner dice sware

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Speaker 1: all my life? I've been grinding all my life, all

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Speaker 1: my life, the grounding all my life, Psycrifice, hustle, back pricing,

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Speaker 1: Want a slice? Got the broler dice to swap? All

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Speaker 1: my life? I've been grinding in all my life. Man,

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Speaker 1: you love getting pamper. I wish you was getting paper,

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Speaker 1: you know, pamper with eight toes fam with the baby. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it ain't no good. Yeah. I just told me we

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Speaker 1: was gonna do be serious. I thought you was magic

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Speaker 1: and stuff. You just hide the boy looking you back dog,

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Speaker 1: I can't be serious with you before back fire did baby?

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Speaker 1: I brought yourself and they're gonna kill me. But you're

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Speaker 1: gonna bring yourself. Yeah. Oh I took care of you.

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Speaker 1: I took care of you always do. Yeah. I like

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Speaker 1: this though, because I know it it is and I

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Speaker 1: think I live the colors. Oh, Jesus. Oh yes, Lord,

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Speaker 1: sha't shain't up like a gold dog? Yeah, yeah, only

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Speaker 1: me and you got a pair of those. You ain't

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Speaker 1: no good, but sometimes you're good. Do I take you?

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Speaker 1: I take care of my dogar. What do you get

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Speaker 1: the person that has everything everything? It's a rough year

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Speaker 1: last year if that with that, the big told that

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Speaker 1: you injured that hurt that really that really too. I

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Speaker 1: had three surgeries for that, but it was a turf

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Speaker 1: toe w Yeah, that's what started there. Yeah, my brother

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Speaker 1: had that same injury and the save me Jo had surgery,

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Speaker 1: didn't do anything, couldn't do anything the same and they

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Speaker 1: told me my foot has been dislocated for eighteen years.

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Speaker 1: So you do this every day two or three times

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Speaker 1: and day. I have to two or three times a day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it started, it's hurting after a few hours, and I

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Speaker 1: have to keep the blood circle then get movement out

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Speaker 1: of it. So like I could make it through like

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Speaker 1: three quarters of a game. Then after that, I'm on

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Speaker 1: maids and everything. I'm living. I got a little stroll

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the game and brought up the

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Speaker 1: third quarter. I'm living, Like how long you got to

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Speaker 1: live with this? Forever? I think it's a new normal.

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Speaker 1: I'm down to like, uh, seven pills a day or

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Speaker 1: what it was like thirty some pills a day? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it was that bad. Just all you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm on blood thinner and oh yeah it's over. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's first time I really let people really, I know,

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Speaker 1: openly see this. Let me ask your question, what about that?

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Speaker 1: What about that third told? Did you think about there?

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Speaker 1: Like you know y'all going it straight to not while

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Speaker 1: you're there? No, I just like that, did you want

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Speaker 1: to straight not? He's chilling though, Helen, You know, man,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna I mean you probably weighed like a side

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Speaker 1: of a leather, but you really ate with that? If that?

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Speaker 1: If that, if that told three that half a side

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Speaker 1: of a half at least too? With that told straight? Not?

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Speaker 1: Really No, honestly, I'm a twelve on this side and

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Speaker 1: I'm be living on this side. Some normal sandlers for you,

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Speaker 1: no flip plus for you. Huh oh my time, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm time. You know what, maybe they'll do

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Speaker 1: a special with a straight face, with a straight faced up.

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Speaker 1: He ain't no good, He ain't no good. You'll come

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Speaker 1: to visit the man. Just go at my toe because

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Speaker 1: I have to cover you know why, because you already

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Speaker 1: know if the shoe was on the other foot, well

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Speaker 1: you had to say the shoot oh man, man, But

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Speaker 1: I ain't no good man, one thing about my homebow.

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Speaker 1: He gonna be eight hoes down for you. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: what what's the saying with a tent old? He ate?

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Speaker 1: He ride hard. He he ain't doing for you. Glad

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Speaker 1: you can't see you, brother man. You know I had

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Speaker 1: to get up here, your old stomping ground right now.

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Speaker 1: He didn't right down the right down the road. Man,

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Speaker 1: you ran that. Hello, welcome to another addition of Club

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Speaker 1: Sha Shay. I am your host, shouting sharp. I'm also

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Speaker 1: the product Club Sha Shape, and we're on the road

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Speaker 1: with one of the greatest police ever. He's the only

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Speaker 1: playing the World Series in a Super Bowl NFL Defensive

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year in nineteen ninety four. He's a

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Speaker 1: nine time First Team All Pro, eight selections to the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, two time Super Bowl champ, an All Decade

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Speaker 1: player as a corner and a return guy. The greatest

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Speaker 1: corner I repeat, I reiterate, the greatest corner to ever

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Speaker 1: play in the NFL. He's a cultural icon, a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame classmate of mine, got a bunch of names.

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Speaker 1: He let some of those go Neon Dion Prime Time.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows him. Now it's coach Prime coach. How you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try my best. Then you go show how

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Speaker 1: we gave like this? How we how we not? We

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Speaker 1: talk every week. We know what it's like. So you

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Speaker 1: expect me to be serious though, because I know you.

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Speaker 1: I know, but the camera see the cameras didn't want

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Speaker 1: to do. You know, we could be us Okay, because

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Speaker 1: a lot of times you called me to up a

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Speaker 1: mad look. I know you gonna make me laugh. So

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Speaker 1: let's just go ahead and get away. Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be serious. Okay, walking on the field, you're looking in here.

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Speaker 1: We are in the locker room, been a lot of

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Speaker 1: different places, came upstairs earlier, met you in your office.

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Speaker 1: Has it sunk in yet? No, because we're just closing

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Speaker 1: in the chapter okay of Jackson State, and now we

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Speaker 1: and it's still yeah, like we was walking in I think,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what time we got in last night,

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Speaker 1: understand this is us? This is ours? But we gotta

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Speaker 1: make it what we wanted to be. Right. It's still like,

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Speaker 1: even in this locker room setting up, I'm looking around, like, dang,

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Speaker 1: Right before we move forward to Colorado, let's go back.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Jackson State. Yesterday, you participate in the

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Speaker 1: Celebration Bowl for the second year in the row, and

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Speaker 1: for the second year in the row, you weren't able

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Speaker 1: to win a great regular season. You weren't able to

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Speaker 1: like just get it. You was so close. Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: happened yesterday? Okay, the first year we got a little too,

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Speaker 1: Like a days ago, we were smelling ourselves a little

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Speaker 1: bit and we got humbled. We did everything right leading

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Speaker 1: just didn't get it done defensively, right, that was the

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Speaker 1: and we were not disciplined and we didn't get it done.

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Speaker 1: We tried, God, the offense tride, the offense tride, but

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Speaker 1: special teams as well as defense, and it's a team.

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Speaker 1: We just didn't get it done. And I'm gonna forever

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Speaker 1: remember this this second time, we didn't get it done,

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Speaker 1: and that hurts from me as an HBC or you alum.

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Speaker 1: I want to say thank you because you're my friend,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the eyeballs that you brought college game day.

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Speaker 1: Showed up to Jackson State Commissioner and I understand his

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Speaker 1: nephew played on your squad. He showed up. You've had

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Speaker 1: so many scouts in and out getting yes and the

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Speaker 1: who you are with some of your corporate sponsors. You

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Speaker 1: talk about a Walmart, you talk about an American airlines.

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Speaker 1: You talk about a proctant gamma. You're talking about under armour. Yes,

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Speaker 1: nobody has more uniform changes other than Oregon than Jackson State.

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Speaker 1: You did that. You got a good friend of yours,

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Speaker 1: Michael Strahan, to outfit your team so they didn't look

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Speaker 1: there's some guys would wear sweatshirt or Jackson stayed Parapamnailia

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Speaker 1: Jackson stayed everything looking professional. I want to say thank

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Speaker 1: you and what you've done. I'm not criticized. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of times we start to criticize with what someone

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Speaker 1: you did do when you heard the criticism that was coming,

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Speaker 1: that you were leaving, what went through your mind? When

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Speaker 1: people are hurt and uh, When people are hurt, oftentimes

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Speaker 1: their first response isn't the response that should be given. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they say things out of the emotions and anger. But

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Speaker 1: It's funny that when I first came in, I said

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Speaker 1: God told me to come here. They didn't believe it. Right.

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Speaker 1: But if I say, well, God said it's time for

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Speaker 1: do you believe? Right? And what you should believe is

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Speaker 1: I'm led? Come on, shann't this get both of us

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Speaker 1: But we're still going right. So if you don't believe

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Speaker 1: has his hands on us, something's wrong with you. Because

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Speaker 1: you got to say, I couldn't have done this by myself.

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Speaker 1: you put a blueprint in place, you left a former

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Speaker 1: member from your staff in place. Yeah, but they mad

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Speaker 1: cause I got the pin. We put a blueprint in place,

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Speaker 1: but I got the pin right, They said that they

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Speaker 1: felt like I let you down. I walked out first

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Speaker 1: and foremost, and I haven't disclosed this ship my a

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Speaker 1: d Ashley Robinson. When I took the job, he said,

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Speaker 1: I want you to do something for me. I said,

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Speaker 1: what's that? He said, at least give me two years.

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Speaker 1: I said, you got it. Okay, you gave him three.

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Speaker 1: It's real talk that that's what we discussed. Do you.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say, for the sake of ar sake of argument,

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Speaker 1: It ain't gonna be enough because it's it's and I

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Speaker 1: don't I understand because it's love, right you You fell

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Speaker 1: felt like, uh, we did more than we worked expected

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Speaker 1: to do. Correct, We just did it so expeditiously that

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Speaker 1: what would normally take someone several years. We did it

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Speaker 1: CNN had a segment where they asked if Dion Sanders

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Speaker 1: a sellout for you leaving an HBCU. People said he

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Speaker 1: sold a dream then walked out on a dream. Your

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Speaker 1: The injury not an injury, but you was in dire straits. True,

423
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: you had a blood clot cluts plus yeah, and I

424
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: knew something was seriously wrong because we talked every single

425
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: week and there were a couple of weeks that we

426
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: didn't talk. They took my phone and I was like,

427
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: I woke up and I can't say because I never

428
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: smoked or drink in my life, So I woke up

429
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: under the influence and they say I was just texting

430
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: the like, Ah'm tak your phone because you put somebody

431
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: there crazy, right, So they took my phone, But you

432
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: ray what was going through when they told you you're

433
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: diagnosis and you were in dire straits. They almost had

434
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: to take not just the toe, but the foot, maybe

435
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: even come up the leg. No, it was first it

436
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: was the leg from knee down because I wouldn't get

437
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: no blood. Then it was life okay, wow, and then

438
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: it was two toes okay, and I'm thinking, I thank

439
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: god that it got to two toes. They take them

440
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: for You said, we weren't joking, you said, see what

441
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He told me he going to be serious.

442
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: But this is where I'm glad, y'all see who he is.

443
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. You just had to he ain't no good.

444
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: You know, he ain't no good. But let's get back

445
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: in the camp. This is how we ain't no good,

446
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: ain't no good. So look, wow, that's with me forever.

447
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: That's with me. I mean, you wouldn't have no calf

448
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: to begin with. I'm trumping. I started to get it.

449
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: Some plan uh with the a BBB BBC, a BBC

450
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: for your cal Why are you down? You might well

451
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: gonna hook me up? So so so what what did

452
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: what did they tell you? So what when the doctor

453
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: came in, he said, I saw that look, and I

454
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: saw that look. Man. First of all, I had, you know,

455
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: I had two three toes surgeries from my playing days

456
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: and it was bad. So I wanted to get it

457
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: checked out again because it was bad. And the ladies said,

458
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: the nurse, I'm sorry. The doctor she said, you know

459
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: your foot been dislocated for like fifteen years. I said,

460
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: how's that possible? They say, I'm pretty sure you've been

461
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: Philip pays. I said, yeah, but were football players. That's

462
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: how we did play through that. I dealt with fifteen years.

463
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: And she said, you're gonna have to have surgery. I said, okay,

464
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: how long I'm out. She said, you're gonna have to.

465
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: I said, now, I'd be back to practice tomorrow. I ain't.

466
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: I can't do that right. Just get me in these

467
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: school dro I'm straight. I went right back to practices

468
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: next day, and as the week, I think two weeks

469
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: went by, and they changed my bandage every morning, and uh,

470
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: my head trainers saw my first two toes was black.

471
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: She said, oh, coach, we gotta go to the doctor

472
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: right down. This is not normal. I said, were gonna

473
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: practice first, then we're gonna go to the doctor. And

474
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: we went to the doctor and you know when you

475
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: see that look, yeah, and they said we gotta have

476
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: surgery right now. I said, so, what's wrong? We gotta

477
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: have surgery right now. Okay, what's wrong? Yeah, So it

478
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: was we gotta have surgery right now. I have any

479
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: anybody in your family had blood clots? I said, I

480
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: don't know. So we called my mama, you know, my mama.

481
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: My mama said, yeah, baby. By the way, your uncle

482
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: died from blood clots a few years back, and your

483
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: other aunt, Almos died last year from blood clots. And

484
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: I just got diagnosed with blood clots. I said, thank you, mam.

485
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: I show appreciate it. Mama had all that just sitting

486
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: on just sitting on nothing. Yeah, I'm about to check

487
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: out it. She's just sitting on the stove. So we

488
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: had uh nine surgeries, Wow, nine surgeries and uh eight

489
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: within a month, and I think I had another one

490
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,239
Speaker 1: after that. All that, all that and my son, uh,

491
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, Shador was coming every day, Shallow was coming.

492
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: But Shardor came and said, uh, Daddad needs you. You

493
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: gotta understand, he had never played a game without me

494
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: in his life, right except for those And I'm looking

495
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: at the game, looking at this passing completion percentage just

496
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: slowly going down from seventy four, seventy two, seventy sixty

497
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: eight he said, dadda, I need you. I said I'd

498
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: be there. So that's the time we played UH. I

499
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: think we played UH Southern and I got in the chair.

500
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: It was freezing cold. I was frail, you know. I

501
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: lost by thirty pounds and I went through the game

502
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: and he brought us back that night. Then Shallow had

503
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: the game clinching interception and it was twenty one points

504
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard. I was like, God, look at you.

505
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: Twenty one points on the scoreboard. Shrdor made a game

506
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: winning touchdown past the Shallow clinch it. I said, God,

507
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: look at you. I guess they didn't remember that you

508
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: did all that at Jackson's State. But never we we

509
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: we we move it on, We move it on you.

510
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: You got an incredible staff. Zim is gonna be on

511
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: your staff, and I think you bringing Dennis Thurman. You

512
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: got the head coach from Mississippi Valley with the Kent

513
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: State and got got your offensive coordinator. You with the

514
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: Alabama and got your defensive coordinator. But you have a

515
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: lot of minorties. You plucked a lot of minorties and

516
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: brought them into a situation and give them opportunities, a

517
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: better opportunities to branch out on their own if you're

518
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: successful here at Colorado. True, I gotta treat now too.

519
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: I gotta treat now. You gotta treatse TC is on

520
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: the treat now right, Yeah, because we wanted TCS and

521
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: thank god that they did that because he's a good guy.

522
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: He deserves it. He worked up under us, so he

523
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: knows how we run a program, right, So I feel

524
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be successful and he's gonna keep it

525
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: going and he's recruiting this but off right, you they

526
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: said you're gonna be the highest paid coach in Colorado

527
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: hip history. Now said hid, he ain't got no brad,

528
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: he ain't got no brain for you. He got no

529
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: brain for you right now. They might be selling us

530
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: about the five fifth galers. Well, I tell you what,

531
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: they ain't here for money nowhere. That's a good thing,

532
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: right because it sad, you know, you know we had

533
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: offers man, right, But it wasn't about that. It was

534
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: about Rick. George made me feel comfortable. He made me

535
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: feel like we were gonna do this together. He made

536
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: me feel like, uh, this was a need, a desire

537
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: from the city, from the fans, from everyone that I

538
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: felt like I was the guy for this job, and

539
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, I prayed on it, right, and we were

540
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: definitely lad here and I'm I'm excited. I'm excited because

541
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: God always with me. He does the unlikely thing in

542
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: an unlikely place, right, And see, Jackson forgot I wouldn't

543
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: they didn't. I've read the stuff that they were saying

544
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: when they first hired me. I saw the looks when

545
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: I was on stage of the people twisted they face up,

546
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, like we was at church and I was

547
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: I was a pastor that wasn't give him a good

548
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: the best message that they wanted to know because it

549
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: was conviction involved. I knew what time it was you

550
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: felt they were saying or you felt it that you

551
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: only got the job because of who you were, not

552
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: that you were qualified to have the job. There you go,

553
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: but now but now now? So I love the challenges man, right,

554
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: what we all thrive on though, real men? Yeah, well challenge, yeah,

555
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: thank you. I love that. We always but the opportunity.

556
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: You know, we say we want our black coaches to

557
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: get opportunities. Well, when black coaches get opportunities, you can't

558
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: then get mad at him for taking advantage of saying opportunities.

559
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: You being an HBCU coach getting a Power five job.

560
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: That should everybody should have stood up on their chairs

561
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: and applauded. We don't. We don't. We're not built like

562
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: that as a people. Man. Why though we built the

563
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: lift up and the tear down, some of us are

564
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: and I applaud those and I praised those people, and

565
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: I understand those Those are the people that are not

566
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: narrow mind that, the people that want to make it

567
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: to the next step, the people that want more, the

568
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: people that's willing to work for it, the people that

569
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna grab somebody on their way up. But the others,

570
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: m they don't want that mm. They want to sit

571
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: there with their bow and arrows and their guns and

572
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: shoot you until you fall down. And they don't understand

573
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: that does not make them higher to shoot you down

574
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: because you fail. You're not all of a sudden higher

575
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: because he failed. That don't make sense. You helped bring

576
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: him down, true, And what we've always done, we've always

577
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: helped bring people up. Yes, And I don't understand how

578
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: people can't see our history, not just his story, right,

579
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: but our history has proven that we win, right, We're

580
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: winners man. And we're gonna win. Yes, you always talked

581
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: about your assistance. You say, I want my assistant coaches

582
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: to get recognized. I want them to be paid accordingly

583
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: because they work. They work just as hard as I

584
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: do and don't get nearly the credit that I do.

585
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: But I want them. And so this is an opportunity

586
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: for you to bring some guys and we give them

587
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: some resources. Yes, and we did. And even the guys

588
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: that stayed there, we made sure they got increased in

589
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: salaries as well. And the salaries are totally different, man.

590
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta understand I had coaches working around

591
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: the clock, and we work our butts off. We work

592
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: on every day. The end with the why Derek Jackson,

593
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: and you got some coaches making fifty and fifty five

594
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: grand man, I mean, I don't want to bad mouth

595
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: that because some people would love that, but as a

596
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: college coach, yeah yeah, yeah, but the kind of hour

597
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: that you gotta put in, Lady and Dine, as a

598
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: college coach, that is unsatisfact. Yet when you came in,

599
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: you got the job at your introductor Repress Carverage, you

600
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: say you bringing some dogs, and you pointed to your

601
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: son and you say, well, there's your quarterback, and people

602
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: like man, that's anopotism. Miss Hart ain't done nothing another.

603
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: They ain't real. You gotta go get a film and

604
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: watch right. That's really just somebody. What about when you said, okay, guay,

605
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: some of y'all got to go in get getting the

606
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: transport portal because we coming, we for real. It's not

607
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna be the same. It's not gonna be like it was.

608
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: Whatever you thought you were doing, and you thought that

609
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: was harder, you thought that was difficult, go ahead and

610
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: make a move. Same speech to Jackson. Didn't change it

611
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: a little bit, then altered it one bit. Same thing.

612
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: That's what we said, and that's what we did. I

613
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: think we uh read ourselves of seventy young men that

614
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: was not chosen by us, that it had no connectivity

615
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: to our program, that they didn't understand smart, tough, fast

616
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: discipline with character, and we had to get rid of them.

617
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: Are you not compromising any of what you just said? Smart, fast, tough,

618
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: discipline with character, character. You're not compromising any of that,

619
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 1: not one. I don't play that we old school man,

620
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, come on, man said we old school. We

621
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: were talking about old school coaches. I'm a little mixture

622
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: of coach Bowden, coach Mickey Andrews, coach Zim Railroads. I'm

623
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: a mixture of the coach Dave Capable coached me at

624
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: Peewee League, coach Ron Hoover, who coach I'm a mixture

625
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: of all these young men that were old school. Did

626
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: you always want to coach? Because I remember like you

627
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: to ask you all the time. I say, time, how

628
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: you do it? I said, how's somebody of you, of

629
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: your statue stature, has the patience? I said, man? How?

630
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: He said, Man? The kids? I said, I get the kids.

631
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: But see that's the problem. They don't understand You've been

632
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: asking me this question for how long. See, they just

633
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: knowing coach Prime. But when I was out there on

634
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: the field with these little five year olds, you brought

635
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: him to the Hall of Fame at twenty level. You

636
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: brought up Thank you. We brought seven buses. Yes, we

637
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: played in Memphis. Kick button yat on the bus when

638
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: the little Ville kick Butt came to can't know how

639
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: and kick butt like we brought See, I get excited

640
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: when I start talking about my baby. Yeah, we brought

641
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: seven busloads of kids and parents to the Hall of fame, right,

642
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: And when I was up there giving the speech, they

643
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: were right out there, yep. And some of those kids

644
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: are getting ready to come here and play for me now,

645
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: some of those same kids that were there. So did

646
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: you know you always wanted to be a coach? Did?

647
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: When did you? When did you get the coaching bug?

648
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: When I was I was retired, and I took Shiloh

649
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: and Shdor to practice, okay, And I was sitting there

650
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: and I was just watching the coach. I have these

651
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: kids run ten yards apartment go and I'm like, somebody

652
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: gonna get a concussion in here. That's that's what You'm

653
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: not gonna get a concussion out here. So I got

654
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: up and said, coach, at least let them go at

655
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: the angle because they're too small for that and the

656
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: and uh. Then I get back up, they'll do another drill.

657
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: I try to go fix the coaches. Then I just

658
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: got tired of getting up, So I just sat there

659
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: and made up my mind while I was sitting in

660
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: that chair. If I'm gonna put my kids in there,

661
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: I gotta run it right because they're not gonna do

662
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: right right. So we started truth, trusting God, respect myself,

663
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: and others understand I have unlimited possibilities, trying my best

664
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: navigate up and honored the truth, and it's created all times.

665
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: All our kids, all our parents knew that creed from

666
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: day one. I first trial was at the Cotton Bowl

667
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: chaunting were at twelve hundred kids travel Yeah, five many positions.

668
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: It was one gonna be one team, but I felt

669
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: bad turning so many kids away. So we had two

670
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: teams at every age two, five and six, seven and eight,

671
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: nineteen elevens with your teams, and then we started migrating

672
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: to twelve, thirteen and fourteen. But we were in I

673
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: rent at schools man in the summer and had summer

674
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: camps with over five hundred and six hundred kids. Man

675
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: that we then we added basketball, baseball, cheer track. We

676
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: had everything, and you had to have a certain uh

677
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: GPA man to even substantiate it. We hired teachers in

678
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: the summer summer food program. We fed them three meals

679
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: a day. I brought several school buses but these kids

680
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: and picked them up from all around the city out

681
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: of my pocket. So all this stuff, they just knowing

682
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: Coach Prime, right, y'all just know I've been You've been knowing,

683
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: just like I. I. I, I can't believe you. Remember

684
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: they was at the Hall of Fame. I do remember, yeah, yeah,

685
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: those are my babies, man. After the after the Hall

686
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: of Fame, after our speeches, I went back to the

687
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: college because they were staying at the dorm, right, and

688
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: stayed the name with them there, not at Dotell the speculation.

689
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: What happened to your truth academy? Oh you mean Prime

690
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: Prep Prep? Excuse me? It was the best thing that

691
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: ever happened to me. You know why because without that

692
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: failure and me attaching myself to someone that I thought

693
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: love kids as much as I do, right when it

694
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: was business for them, but it was all that other

695
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: stuff for me. It taught me a valuable lesson, man,

696
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: and I never will forget. And now I'm very careful

697
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: of where I put my name, who I lend my

698
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: name to, who I'm involved with when it comes to

699
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: kids as well. That was the best thing I feel

700
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: that ever happened to me, best thing to happen. Yeah, failure, yes,

701
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: pick you up. Yes, but you know, people were okay,

702
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: I don't know why people get so much satisfaction when

703
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: they see other people failed. Yeah, but they I wish

704
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: they knew what they were talking about, right, I wish

705
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: they knew. You need to find someone that was involved

706
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: in that with me to understood the only rights that

707
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: I had was to my name that was on the building.

708
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: You said, you've coached, he's your door. Is the only

709
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: coaching you've ever had, he's ever had. What type of

710
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: value do you try to steal in yourself because also

711
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: you're his father, but you're his coach. That's a very

712
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: very fine line because you want to like, okay, rug

713
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: get it done. That's what shallow. That was shallow A

714
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: shallow No, I have to be because he's that kid

715
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: that's gonna always keep you on your knees. You gotta

716
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: keep your knee pass on. Shallow. He gonna keep your praying.

717
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: Oh you guys, they prayed up. But he's a wonderful talent.

718
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: He has so much ability. It's nothing that he can't do,

719
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: nothing that he can't accomplish. Shallow can do anything. He

720
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: wanted to play the piano, chess, uh, everything, everything. I mean,

721
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: it's nothing he can't do it, or he's gonna find

722
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: out how to do it in Google it and mastered.

723
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: That's just who he is, but he has to keep

724
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: the main thing the main thing, and he's gonna go

725
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: pro right, but you'll do it. So so what so

726
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: you say, she'll do it like your door has as

727
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: from the bedroom beginning the thing that you told me.

728
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: He says he has one mission. He wants to be

729
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: playing at the level that you and I play. That yes,

730
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: and whatever I tell him. It's like he's like a sponge. Uh.

731
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: You say he was out there with Brady and he

732
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: would just absorb everything, everything Brady said, everything, and uh,

733
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: he looks up to Brady. He he uh endorses Brady's

734
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: brand and Tom keeps in touch with him and keep

735
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: him on point and make sure he's who he is.

736
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: But his work ethic is like ours. Right and uh,

737
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 1: he's an old soul man. His nickname is grown because

738
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: he's been there. We've been calling him grown ever since

739
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: he was shorty. What does it mean to cult your sons?

740
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: The coach both of him is Uh, I love it

741
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: because I get the father and coach. Now you got

742
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: to understand when we crossed the line, I'm coach, right,

743
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not your dad, I'm coach. So they

744
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: so when they'll decide that I didn't refer to you

745
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: as dad's coach. They've been never referred to his dad. Yeah,

746
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: I don't play that. I don't play that. I'm coach,

747
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: your coach. Yeah, and they don't cross the line. Right.

748
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: So how old were your sons when you started coaching?

749
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: Five and seven? And we lie to best your doors? Ay,

750
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: so he could play with his brother, but he but

751
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: your door has always been he's never played any other

752
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: position other than quarterback. Yeah, he's always been a quarterback.

753
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: He played a little strong safety, but death was just

754
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: to learn everything that the defense entailed, right, so he

755
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: could be a better quarterback. And Shallow started out playing quarterback, quarterback, quarterback,

756
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: and you know he just got to that point as

757
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: they signed as old quarterback. Why are you gonna let

758
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: him do it? It's old as a Shilow. You're gonna

759
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: be a corner. I could teach you how to do this.

760
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna get offers from all around the country, and

761
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: let me teach you. We went in the backyard and

762
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: was getting down doing some stuff at a couple of

763
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: guys running little routes on him. He told me, guy

764
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: got off the jam and he missed him clean because

765
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: he closed his eyes and spread his leg. He said,

766
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: your stuff don't work. I said, God bless you. I

767
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: walk right in the house. Gotta bid. He said, my

768
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: stuff don't work. But you know what, he kept working right,

769
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: and we just went to a couple of camps and

770
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: he ended up rushing people and choking him and running

771
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: them out of bouns like shallow nasty. He he he

772
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: is nasty, right, yeah, yeah, But when you get a

773
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: got Jackson stayed, naw, I see you. When a guy

774
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: comes in and says, I want to go pro. I

775
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: want to play at the level that you played at,

776
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: and I want to play at a level that you

777
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: played at, what do you say? You're like, damn, Son,

778
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean you don't hurt, but you're like, well, I mean,

779
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: what about the work? Are you willing? There you go.

780
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Son, I want you to do the same thing,

781
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: but first of all, you gotta work for him. I'm

782
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: not gonna give you nothing. I'm not gonna promise you nothing.

783
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what these other schools are doing, but

784
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: this is who I am. All right. I'm not gonna

785
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: even promise you no number of no position, and definitely

786
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: ain't promise you to start, you gonna have to come

787
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: here and earn every direring thing you get. Right, then

788
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna appreciate it more. Then you're gonna want it more.

789
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna understand all what It takes a lot more.

790
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: So it's not a sales pitch. I just tell them

791
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: about about reality. We don't promise things. Man. You gotta

792
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: earn every dirring thing you get. That's how we got that.

793
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: You gotta earn it and you gotta work for it.

794
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: So in the process of getting guys ready, are you

795
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: preparing them for life? Because you know, let's just say,

796
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: for if you get a hundred guys come in and

797
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: go come and if you coach five years, you're probably

798
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: gonna coach. But a fouding guys. Okay, maybe five chen

799
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: them go pro. But what about those nine hundred that

800
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: didn't go pros that's gonna have to be out there

801
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: in the real world. Ninety five percent of these young

802
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: men that come through these doors are not gonna be

803
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: a professional football player. Five percent are that five percent

804
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: that are. It don't take a lot. It didn't take

805
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: a lot to get chandone shot ready because he has

806
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: something that Nate about him, about his history and his

807
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: family that he had to make it. So my focus

808
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: is really grooming and growing and maturing and equipping that

809
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: ninety five percent for life. Right, So all my morning messages,

810
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 1: my private meetings, my group meetings with those other ninety

811
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: five percent, they're the future of fathers, their future political figures, doctors, lawyers, whatever, teachers.

812
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: People that's gonna shape the communities and become leaders. I

813
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: don't even have captains on that jersey. We have leaders,

814
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: and we have dogs, every dog and the leader. Every

815
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: leader and a dog. I don't have captains. I don't

816
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: believe in that terminology. But we do have leaders, and

817
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to build. Do you feel you

818
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: the best recruited in America? Wait? How would Okay? Now

819
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: I just pause for the for the effects give you.

820
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling truth. You thought I was just gonna answer

821
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: you quick. I got to get the fact. Okay, said again,

822
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: let me do a thing. Do you feel you the

823
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: best recruited in America? You see the look away? Now?

824
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: What did I come back? You know? I right? I am,

825
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: I'm not selling thehing? Right, I am? Who I am?

826
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: You want to exposure I'm gonna get your exposure. Right,

827
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: we got a documentary coming out where get that. That's

828
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: my job. Okay, I don't remember. Yeah, I'm gonna forget you.

829
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna forget Kip, I got it. But they gonna exposure.

830
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna give them exposure. We we know how to

831
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: use social media like no other and we didn't even

832
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: have the resources at Jackson. Now we do. We have

833
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: a whole team, right, a whole plethora of people that's

834
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: designed specifically to make you shine. And I'm gonna help

835
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: you do that. But I'm gonna teach you about the NLS.

836
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys coming out of high school

837
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: are coming from other colleges that, yeah, but the same

838
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: image and likeness. And you're sitting up here with your

839
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: hand groom your face nappy, and you talking about you

840
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: won't name the image and likeness. Who's gonna put money

841
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: on that? I gotta teach you what. I gotta teach

842
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: you those things and teach you how to articulate yourself.

843
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: So when a CEO is flipping through the channels and

844
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: he see you on the news, cause there's a lot

845
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: of money here, right and Boulder, Yeah, and he sees you.

846
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: He said, you know what, I want to invest something

847
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: in that kid. That's how it works. You ain't done

848
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: nothing to earn that get. I want you to earn

849
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: something and then you're gonna appreciate it. Like we talked previously,

850
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: So you're going to a mom, mom and dad, Mom,

851
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: how's grandma house? You sit down on the couch. How

852
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: you winning over mom? Because you it's really it's really

853
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: the parents that you gotta win over. And first and foremost,

854
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: you gotta understand the kid is Let's just say the

855
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: kid is eighteen, right, Okay, Let's just be generous and

856
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: say the mama was a good mama. She had him

857
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: when she was twenty two, So what does that make him?

858
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: What's that forty? Okay? Were fifty five? Ain't right? So

859
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: mama's boy fifteen when we were doing that thing, right,

860
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: mama know? No? Okay? So Mama done her homework, so

861
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: she all, she's already want to validate what she's heard

862
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: and what she's known. We just got to come in

863
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: and be consistent with what she's heard and what she's known.

864
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to win mama, but I'm gonna

865
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: be honest with mama. One thing. My mama, she's gonna

866
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: do the daddy ain't gonna do. Mama's gonna tell you

867
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: the truth about her baby. Now, how can I help

868
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: your baby be a man? Right? Mama gonna tell you

869
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: the truth. Father gonna play it off. Well, he's already

870
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: man now he ain't. No. I was talking to a

871
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: kid last week. I said, tell me about you. He was.

872
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: He said, uh, you know I have curf you at

873
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: uh ten thirty? I said, you're senior high school? Yeah, yeah,

874
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: I had curf for your twin thirty. I said, what

875
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: you do because that's odd? Right? So what you do? Yeah?

876
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: I got it in some trouble. I said, let's just

877
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: cut through the jays talk about that, right, and how

878
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: can I help you that? Get that? So you're not

879
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: consistently in trouble because if you got a curf your

880
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: ten thirty, even on a weekend, you've done something bad

881
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: that your mom and daddy do not trust you. Right. Yeah,

882
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: but really, man, we don't make any promises whatsoever. We

883
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: want to know what we can do to make sure

884
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: that boy you deliver us become a man. So you

885
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: go into his home, what you eat, you get you

886
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: eat fried chicken, fried fish. You eat poor child, I'm

887
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: not eating everything that could because I don't eat everything

888
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: cause you gonna tell the truth. My mama can't cook him.

889
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: Tell my mom, come on, I'm not mine Mama. Come on. Now,

890
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Mom, you should put a little most season

891
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: in this thing now, you know, and Pop don't appreciate

892
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: it because Pop wanna say it but he can't. You

893
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: brought you brought TRAVH with you. Travis Hunter. Yeah, uh,

894
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: I think if I'm not mistaking the first five starter

895
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: ever go to an HBCU H A two way player, tremendous,

896
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: tremendous talent to cash that he made on fourth down

897
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: to catch the football, to get it or get both

898
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: feet down. He beat double coverage to get you guys

899
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: in the overtime. What makes Trav special? Chad's gotta want

900
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: inside of him, man, that is insationable. Yeah, he has

901
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: a work ethic that is unparalleled. And he ain't scared

902
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: of the moment. Man. A lot of guys are afraid

903
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: of the moment. Right, you know, you can't call it.

904
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: They say they won't they're rocky, but then you don't win.

905
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: Right when he's calling forward. He's gonna win. I mean,

906
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: and I'm just just seeing the chemistry of hearing Shadoor

907
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: going down those last few drives that I'm like, oh

908
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: my god, Like, this is gonna be something. Whoa who

909
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: woa woa whoa. He came as a two way player. Yeah,

910
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: he wants to play corner. Play corner. He's like, well,

911
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: what better way to get to the legit than the

912
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: greatest corner to ever Plus, why he came, That's why

913
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: he came. That's why he came. But let's not get

914
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: that misconstrue. Yes, people get that misconstrued. No, he came

915
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: because to you. But it seems to me that you

916
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: believe his best chance is on the other side with

917
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: your son. You know, that's what he loved. Well, that's

918
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: a love and a's a like, Well, he loves to

919
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: play receiver first of ball, that ball in his hands,

920
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: he's electric. Yeah, and his route running, I mean is electric,

921
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: and he knows how to get open and he he

922
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: attacks the football, right, dB is something that he can

923
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: do really well, right, better than a lot of others. Right.

924
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: But if I had to put my money on him, right,

925
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: he loves catching that football a lot more than he

926
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: loved defending it. But he can do great at a

927
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: high level. So when when he you did both, I mean,

928
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: and you did it at a high level in the NFL,

929
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people say, well, yeah, I

930
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: could do but nah, yeah, yeah, well I was this

931
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: in college, or I was this in high school. It's

932
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: one thing to do it at those levels. And I'm

933
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: not trying to knock anybody that played quarterback in high

934
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: school or running back and all of a sudden they're dB.

935
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: But you played wide receiver in ninety five at a

936
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: very high level. You like you're playing both ways? Legit? Yeah, yes, sir.

937
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: One hundreds of snaps a game, not even getting tarried.

938
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: How how? How that was my life? Just because you

939
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: get to a certain age of the stage and folks

940
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: start telling you what you cannot do? How is that?

941
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: And how are you gonna tell me I can't play

942
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: football in baseball? And he ain't never done nothing. You

943
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: ain't sit there but a a taco and two the

944
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: fifth sale and your mouth's thinking, you ain't got no

945
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: how can you tell me what you I don't understand that, right.

946
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: So I got to a certain level and people start

947
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: telling you right. You can't do both and it ain't

948
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: never done nothing, did you. Did you do it because

949
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: you could? Or you did it because you're trying to

950
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: prove them wrong. No, no, I'm never trying to prove

951
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: you wrong. I don't care about your opinion because the

952
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: opinion that you have with me is not depinion I

953
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: have myself. Correct is when I look at that mirror,

954
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: I'm straight. I'm straight with him. I'm straight with him

955
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: and president, but I'm good with him, right, So that's

956
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: that's not the opinion. I did it because it's what

957
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: I love to do, and I know I can help

958
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: you win. You just gonna be You're gonna be better

959
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: getting the ball in my hand. Let me ask your question.

960
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: If you didn't play cornerback, If you if somebody said

961
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: with time you can't pay you, and you go and

962
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: you you believe you could have, could you made the

963
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame as a wide receiver? Yes, come one.

964
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: Because at one point they did a stat I think

965
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: every time I touched that thing was average twenty two

966
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: twenty two yards to catch a touch return whatever. Because

967
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: they they threw it to you, they handed it to you. Yeah,

968
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: tossed it to you. Yeah, yeah, I truly believe that

969
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: of all the sports that you played, football, Basketball, track

970
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: and field, baseball, what was the easiest sport for you? Easis?

971
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: What was football? What was the hardest? Baseball? You told

972
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: me the hardest thing to do is hit that ball.

973
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: Then that ball does some things. Any sport that you

974
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: could failed seven out of ten times and become great,

975
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: great and make two three hundred dollars in it, that's

976
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: all hard sport, right? What made you? What made you

977
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: want to stop decide to stick with baseball even though

978
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: you had this great football career. The challenge, Man, I

979
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: love challenges, and I could not master it, and it

980
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: frustrated me because I hate to lose and I hate

981
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm not mastering something that I know. If I just

982
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: had more time, I could the speed. They tell the

983
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: story that you weren't supposed to run the ford it

984
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: at the combine. No, I was supposed to You supposed

985
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: to run. Yeah, but you, but you were teaching that

986
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: you might not run. And why okay, but you weren't run.

987
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: Everybody else it got there early, everybody else stretched you

988
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: ready to go. You come up with your tracksuit on,

989
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: You come up, your little little outfit on that no stretching,

990
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: no warming up, get on the line is in my

991
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: office on the back of my wall. The cheating never

992
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: stretched before he go get his prey m a while kingdom. Yeah,

993
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: what have you seen the cheap stretch before you go

994
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: get the loop? So what were you inticipating? You was like, Man,

995
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: if I don't stretch, I could run this. What time

996
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: would you actually anticipate? Vote two? Fote two something low photos?

997
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: So if you had stretched, how fast do you say if?

998
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: Because that's what I can't touch my toes now. I

999
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: so I ain't never been a stretch. I ain't never

1000
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: been flexible. And you just took off got it right

1001
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: one time? And I ran twice. I ran twice, I believe.

1002
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: No you didn't. I don't know. You should have been

1003
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: there a matter of fact. No, I keep it. Next year. Okay,

1004
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: where's the same year? No, you was eighty nine, I

1005
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: was ninety. Okay, right, So now they tell you about

1006
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: the inter of youth process. You know, you go in,

1007
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: you meet with the coaches. Hey, how you doing it?

1008
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: A lot of different teams, Hey, how you doing? They

1009
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: sit down and talk to you. You said you went

1010
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: to the giants and then he was like, hold, hope,

1011
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: when are you guys pick First of all, First of all,

1012
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: it was open house. I don't know how it was

1013
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: when you went, but it's open house. It's ages everywhere, Yes,

1014
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: girls everywhere, people in the hallways. It wasn't secluded like

1015
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: it is not right. So I'm trying to get away

1016
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: from people. And I back into this room, right and

1017
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: I see all these dudes with their heads down like

1018
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: they're getting ready to tech their say t. So I'm like,

1019
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: what is this? And the dude handing me a phone book? Man,

1020
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: I mean that thing was thinking in a phone book.

1021
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: And I said, how long? What pick y'all got? I

1022
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: think we have the tenth? I say, man, i'd be

1023
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: going back then, and I just walked right out and

1024
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: I was being dance serious. I wasn't even trying to joke.

1025
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: But it's a phone book, right, that the one to

1026
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: look test. Some tested the jazz game. Why do they

1027
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: do that? What is that test gonna do about about

1028
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: a game on the field? Me write sometime, ain't got

1029
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: nothing to do with what you're gonna do in the field.

1030
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: So you like, I'm good, I'm good, No, I'm great,

1031
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm not good. I'm great. Did you want did you?

1032
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean you said, if Detroit would have selected you,

1033
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to put you on l away. Did

1034
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: you Where did you want? Where was the idea? Where

1035
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: did you want to go? I was on an all

1036
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: American trip going into my senior year, and we went

1037
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, yeal Bay. I got off the airport, I

1038
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: got off the plane. I'm sorry from Tallahassee, and I'm

1039
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: I seen black folks. I got in the car to

1040
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: go to the hotel. I've seen black folks. We had

1041
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: a function that we were going to the hospitals to

1042
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: volunteer help. I've seen black doctors, black nurses. Got back

1043
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: in the car, so we're riding through town. I see

1044
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: black folks in Mercedes and BMW's and Lexus and all

1045
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I ain't never seen that before.

1046
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: It blew my mind, man, Right, I said, Wow, this

1047
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: is where I wanna go. Cause I was good and ignorant, right,

1048
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: neck full of gold, curl looked wet, but it was dry,

1049
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: you know. And I was flashing flamborn because I was

1050
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: straight Florida. I said, they this is where I need

1051
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: to be because they gonna understand me. Yeah, And so

1052
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 1: that's when we told several teams, I'm playing baseball. Don't

1053
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: don't do it, don't even do it, don't even do it?

1054
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: Were you trying to while you were you trying to

1055
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: scare them away? Yes, because I wanted to go to

1056
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: Atlanta at the fifth pick, and that's I got my dream.

1057
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: And I thank God for Atlanta for drafting me. That

1058
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: was the best thing ever happened to me. It seems

1059
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: to me everybody is trying to build a brand. But

1060
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: you built the brand thirty years ago before before they

1061
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: told you how to build a brand. True, How how

1062
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: do you you come up with the name prime time?

1063
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: Can come out there with the jury, you come out

1064
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: there with the cold, the gold, you come out there

1065
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: being outspoken. But it was a purpose though, Sha, I know,

1066
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the purpose. Okay, First and foremost,

1067
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: these guys trying to build a brand, first of all,

1068
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: need to build your game. Uh. I had a game

1069
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: that was impeccable, I had a work ethic that was desirable.

1070
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: I had brand. Can't be better than the game. Come on,

1071
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm knowing some of these brand I don't even know

1072
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: your game. Who wire you, well, what you're doing on

1073
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: the commercial, I don't never seen you before. Like so,

1074
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: I remember this agent was trying to secure me at

1075
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: the end of my sophomore year, and he gave me

1076
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: this pamphlet or how much everybody made in the NFL.

1077
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: I didn't know what that kind of stuff was disclosed, right,

1078
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: So at that time I went down to DBS and

1079
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: there was no one making a million dollars. I was like,

1080
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: good lord, and I'm going to the other position. DBS

1081
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: was one of the worst paid positions next to I

1082
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: believe the offensive linement at that time, and it blew

1083
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: my mind. I remember dropping that list and sat down.

1084
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: I said no right then I said prime time Now.

1085
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: I came there in eighty five with a five thunderbird

1086
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: with license plate that said prime Time eighty five thunder Bird,

1087
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: and my mama worked her butt off to afford the payments,

1088
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: and it was already prime from playing basketball in high school.

1089
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: So I took that name, and it's just started building

1090
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: a brand. Like you could hate me all you want,

1091
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 1: but you want to see me play, so I would.

1092
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: I had a black book. Most people had girls numbers

1093
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: in their black book. I had quotes in man, I'm

1094
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 1: the best thing since peanut, butter and jelly. You punt

1095
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: the ball to me, you might as well get ready

1096
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: to hit the band. Throw the ball to me and

1097
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: get at me and get ready to make the tackle.

1098
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: And it was all these different quotes that I knew

1099
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: they were gonna come, and I just had to effective,

1100
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: effectually put the quote in the right place. So I

1101
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: build that thing, and I be durn I run a

1102
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: punt back or what would you see on that point?

1103
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: I just tell my apart returned team when I get it,

1104
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: just dropped down to the ground so I could see

1105
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: it was stuff. It was just stuff like that, you know,

1106
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: it's just stuff like that. Oh, just block folk. I

1107
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: got seven. It was stuff like that, right, And slowly

1108
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: we started building that thing, man, and it worked your

1109
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: famous quote. If you look good, you feel good. If

1110
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: you feel good, you play good. If you play good,

1111
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: they play good. That was the serious that's way back

1112
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: in college. I think I went to my last game

1113
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: or renting a black stretching limo. That's when everybody's in

1114
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: limos back in the day. And I had this uh

1115
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: tuxed though with the Whodini had. That's what I wanted

1116
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: my last game right because I knew that was it.

1117
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to go out and style and it was

1118
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: looked good, feel good. It was just that was just

1119
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: my r right neck full of goal. See the necklace

1120
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: change was what everybody had in uh, Florida, and that's

1121
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: how everyone was judged or ridicule, like if you had

1122
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: more weight, you was more significant. And back then all

1123
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: the drug dealers had to wait right. So I didn't

1124
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: like that. So I was trying to show the shorties,

1125
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: you can have all this, but you can stay you

1126
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: can stay right. You don't have to take that left

1127
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: right because these drug dealers, theyn't they never get old, right.

1128
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen the drug deal get old. You

1129
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: know where I came from. Right, you just gonna go

1130
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: to jail. You're gonna be dead some type of way.

1131
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: So I was trying to emulate this in the correct fashion.

1132
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: That's where all the jury came from. How do you

1133
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: know you're worth at such a young age? Because the

1134
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: Falcons offer your originally deal for four hundred thousand, you

1135
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: rejected that to give it left mill y'all sell the

1136
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: four years I think four and a half million. How

1137
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: did you know I believed in me, and then I

1138
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: had a agent at the time. Eugene Parker was a

1139
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: youngster that wasn't no joke, and he had a master

1140
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: plan for me. He would always talk about this master

1141
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: plan another young brother that guess what, I gave an

1142
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: opportunity to ye that no one knew him. He wasn't

1143
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: on the map like that. And guess what he blew up?

1144
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: You blew up, blew up you did, Yeah, because he

1145
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: was an honest, good guy that I loved to life.

1146
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: Took a lot out of me when he passed away, right,

1147
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: because that was my man. He did every contract I

1148
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: ever had in my life, on the field as well

1149
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: as off the field before he passed. What was your

1150
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:42,959
Speaker 1: first purchase? Let me back up a little bit because

1151
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: you gotta understand, going into my junior year in the summer,

1152
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: I signed a Yankees contract, right, so it was like

1153
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: the first nil. So when I signed him a quarter

1154
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: mill going into my senior year. So so now you

1155
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: didn't got that contract, you you got paid for yourself

1156
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: to go to school. Yes, so the Yankees paid by tuition, okay,

1157
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: And I was a walk on okay, so I could

1158
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: stunt like no other but because you couldn't challenge me, right,

1159
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: So we get on the plane going somewhere. I got

1160
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, I have on snake you snakes was the thing.

1161
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: Add some snake skin, some Louis, you know, because you

1162
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: couldn't challenge where you get this from me? Because I

1163
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: had played six weeks in the summer and made a

1164
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: ton of money, right, and then I know I'm gonna

1165
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: be a top five pick in the draft going into

1166
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: my senior year. So it was it was a lovely day.

1167
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: I had a crib uh on the golf course and

1168
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: Tail he has a condo and I had my dorm room.

1169
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: So I was living. Yeah, you really living. But I

1170
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: bought a coming out after my senior I bought a

1171
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: five six days and you know, cut the top off

1172
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: and dropped that thing, you know. Yeah, And I brought

1173
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: a BMW M three. That was probably one of the

1174
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: dumbest buys, not because of BMW. I didn't know how

1175
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: to drive a stick and I bought a stick just

1176
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: but that was nice. Yeah, he was he brought in

1177
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: three ignorant. I was just ignorant. The didn't even know

1178
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: the drop of sticking about a stick. So I get

1179
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: in to collect what's this? I'm glad we could talk

1180
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: about this stuff now, but it's ignorant, So now I'm

1181
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: able to cancel. Young men don't don't. No, he ain't

1182
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: understand this stuff. Nobody questions your cover skills. But every

1183
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: every time he ain't gonna tackle, just run the ball

1184
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: his weight. You ain't never seen that. He ain't never

1185
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: seen it. Right now, you know during well, if folks

1186
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: would have been running through me left right, I've been

1187
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: all over ESPN right, you ain't never seen that. Right.

1188
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: But when your game so strong, they got to find

1189
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: something wrong. They knit pick you, that would He said

1190
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: about me, you ain't come to see me block you

1191
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: come and see me catch them tough. But they ain't

1192
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: never seen your giving up nothing, No, absolutely or not.

1193
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: But they gotta say it just to say something. They

1194
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: ain't never seen me. Ain't nobody running through me, running

1195
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: over me, and running past they never happened. When did

1196
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: you realize you were different? How old were you when

1197
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: you realize that I'm not like the other ten year

1198
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: olds or the love eight year olds or the other three.

1199
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 1: And I came out. I came out of the wound

1200
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: like this, No straight up man, When I was a shorty.

1201
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: I had a gift, man, I had a gift. You

1202
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: always different. I always beat everybody. You could always run faster,

1203
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: you could always jump high. You could always catch work

1204
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: ethic right because I saw my mama working right, working, working, working, working, working.

1205
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 1: She wasn't now at night because she was working, working.

1206
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: So I had to get up and I was always

1207
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: uh ahead of my time because I was always mature.

1208
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: So I get up and I am a stuff and

1209
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: get ready to get myself go to school. You know,

1210
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm gone right with the key up under Matt, So

1211
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm gone, I'm out. You know. That's when the neighbors

1212
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: looked up for each other. Back then, they weren't trying

1213
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: to rape each other's foolish stuff that that's done now.

1214
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: So I was always mature, but I had a work

1215
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: ethic because I saw her, and uh, I wanted it. Man.

1216
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: I never set up for mediocrity, right. I never just

1217
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: wanted to be on the team. I wanted to be

1218
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: the I'm a guy on the team right, and I

1219
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: knew it took work to make that happen. You never

1220
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: led the league and interceptions because people rarely I mean,

1221
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean, what what was it? What was a game

1222
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: like for you? Because sometimes guys would I mean, your

1223
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: uniform was just like you had put it on when

1224
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: you lift the locker room. But you know, you know

1225
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: he had you. You know what's what I'm saying. You

1226
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: know he had you, so I didn't even want you

1227
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: would have looked like you had me. I remember swung

1228
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: on one of my teammates because of that. But he

1229
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: got you in San Francisco. No, no, okay, no, we're

1230
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: playing against the Saints and we're playing two man. I

1231
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: hate playing two man. I don't like me. I don't

1232
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: even got you. Gotta jump the traps. I got mad,

1233
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: thank you. I gotta jump into trumpers this I got

1234
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: a jam again. A couple of steps. Let him get

1235
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: out there. So the first play guy got out there.

1236
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna say through the top. So on, friend, what

1237
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: does it look like like you? I beat? I don't

1238
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: play that, I said, dog, look at him. Uh, you

1239
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: need to do your job, man, y'all, don't worry about me. No, no,

1240
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: next play game, dog, you need to do your job. Man, dude,

1241
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: I'll be there. Don't worry about me. I'm in the

1242
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: running film back coach, you see me, I'm two yards

1243
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: behind the man. Ain't nobody on the top look like

1244
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: this guy's beat me. I don't play that. I don't

1245
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: even want him to look like he beat me on film.

1246
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: Don't worry about me. I got mad. Okay, you'll do

1247
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: your job. Now, I'll sue you. Let's go. Why might

1248
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: as gonna get mad? Here? Then it was like that.

1249
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: So so you went to the game with a mindset.

1250
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't care who it is. Jared Rids, Chris Carter,

1251
01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: Michael Rvis, Thoroly Sharp, y'all, don't getting nothing. Lead your

1252
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: brother out of this name. Hey, hey, he said that Sterling.

1253
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing do with that. He said that

1254
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: your brother's too big and strong and physical. Well he's

1255
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: talking about it. Look him. First of all, if you

1256
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: back off him and he catches hits, who's gonna tackle it?

1257
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: And then you get up there where he could grab you.

1258
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: He getting every slanty. Won't Tim McConn coming over? And

1259
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: I ain't mess with that? You got that? No, that's

1260
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: man dog? So you so so what was I mean?

1261
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: You had some epic battles with Michael r especially Jerry.

1262
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: You and Jerry. I mean you was like Mike. Mike

1263
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: was practice with Jerry. We wouldn't at it. I mean,

1264
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: folks would stop to see us go at it. Mike

1265
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: was the same way man. Mike was a dog man

1266
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: and Mike had a whole different type of game. And

1267
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: Jerry was still Andre Rising was a dog. Yes, I

1268
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: played with some guys that can go to work, and

1269
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: we went to work in practice. But Jerry and I

1270
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: because of the previous battles, the practice against him, it

1271
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: was it was very interesting, right, yeah, yeah it was.

1272
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: It was good. It helped both of us. Did you

1273
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: ever go into a game did you not like a

1274
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: particular player at times? Like, I'm never I never disliked

1275
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: someone if someone talked about me. Is that's the misconception.

1276
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: I never talked on the field. Now you did? You

1277
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: You talk like that I was a vote. Then you

1278
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: know some people you ain't like though, some people you

1279
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: ain't like, and you did your homework, you found out

1280
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: everything you talked about it like adult, don't think I

1281
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: don't know, yep, I know. I don't think I knew

1282
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: what to say, right, Yeah, I'm trying to get to

1283
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: keep a couple of cheap fifteen yard pendent. You did

1284
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: you know you were really good at it. I was

1285
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: very good, really good at But I never talked to

1286
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: my opponent, right, I never never said nothing. Did they

1287
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 1: talk to you? Please? Who don't talk to me? Theybody

1288
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: started out, they talk to me. They don't say not

1289
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: know because there's a possibility I'm gonna get this thing

1290
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: and I stepped this thing. You ain't gonna do that,

1291
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: because you know there's a point in this game that

1292
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: this thing may go to the The quarterback ever saying

1293
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid you. I'm throwing to your side. No.

1294
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: I used to run around the field like I walk

1295
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: around the field now and goes leave down by the

1296
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: put him boom, Oh that's a good one that dog.

1297
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: Ain't you good? He kicked it again? Boom. We're gonna

1298
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: make a tackle on that one if you do that.

1299
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: And I just get up a jog off the Super Bowls.

1300
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: You left Atlanta, and I remember you said Atlanta was

1301
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: trying to get trying to turn me into a loser.

1302
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: They were trying to get me comfortable with a loser.

1303
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: Never lost my life. I think I think Atlanta do

1304
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: because I didn't know what how much they were blessing me.

1305
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: Right when they didn't offer me a contract and allowed

1306
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: me to go to San Francisco. They were blessing me

1307
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: because I didn't understand the two till years later that

1308
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: they understood we're not a winner. We're not gonna win

1309
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: anytime soon. This guy's different. Let me let him go

1310
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: so he could win right now. And that's what they

1311
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: did for me because they never offered me a contract,

1312
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: and I thanked them to this day for that. I mean,

1313
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: let that seek, ladies and gentlemen. This man's a free

1314
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: agent and the team did not for him a contract. Right.

1315
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: I didn't just leave it. Now. You think I wanted

1316
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: to leaving Land, No, who wants to leave the right

1317
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: at that time with him when you came to Atlanta,

1318
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: when that freak Niga was in full sweed. But we

1319
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: talked about the super Bowl. We talked that was the

1320
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Shout out of Luke, that was the super

1321
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 1: Bowl A party, y'all think y'all got this was a

1322
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: great word that you chold you took a time to

1323
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: say party. Yeah, wow with the super Bowl your proudest

1324
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 1: moment in the NFL. Because I remember you saying something

1325
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: that like you won the super Bowl and you're supposed

1326
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: to be. But you didn't. You didn't feel us fulfilled,

1327
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: you didn't feel saddest. It's gonna trip you out. What

1328
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: my proudest moment was. This gonna trip you out. We

1329
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: had a quarterback, that quarterback, that scout team, and that

1330
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: was in San Francisco. Billy must Grave, Billy must He

1331
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: came to me Denver. I called him must Grow. He

1332
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: was a scout team guy. So he gave us the work.

1333
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: And you know, I was like, I need to be

1334
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: challenged like this, Like I would pick my Scout team

1335
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 1: receiver that week. I need you this week. Mike is

1336
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: a big guy. I need the big receiver. I need

1337
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: you to work me this way. I wanted him to

1338
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: work me. And Billy was the quarterback. Billy didn't get

1339
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: to play the whole season, even though we were beating people.

1340
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: I think Steve May had taken during the all the snaps.

1341
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: So we were up by margin in the Super Bowl

1342
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: and I went to coach uh Seprit, I say, put

1343
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: Billy in. You can't look back at me as I'm there. Serious.

1344
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: Put Billy in, and Billy ran out there on the

1345
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: field man and let him throw. Man, don't just put

1346
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: him throw away and he he got to throw a pass,

1347
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: I believe. But that was my proudest movement because that's

1348
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: a guy that worked his butt off the whole season

1349
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: that didn't get the reward, but that day I felt

1350
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: like he got it. He got to play in the

1351
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Man, you made a joke about your eggnort

1352
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 1: from jack Some State was kind of like your marriages,

1353
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: I did. I don't remember you did. What does say

1354
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: you said? Uh? You were like you said something like,

1355
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly. I don't think. I think they

1356
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: were probably upset that y'alla were get in divorce, kind

1357
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: of like Jackson State was upset that you were leaving.

1358
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they were happy you were leaving.

1359
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: Jackson State clearly wasn't happy that you were leaving. You

1360
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 1: brought Brittany in Renter in to talk to your players.

1361
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: What were you trying to accomplish by bringing her in?

1362
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: This social media influence Britta Brittany is a real woman. Okay,

1363
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: she keeps it one hundred, she keeps it straightforward, and

1364
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: she is a tremendous influencer on Instagram. Bringing her in

1365
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: to talk about game right from a woman's point of

1366
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: view right was unbelievable. Had I had Brittany Renter in

1367
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: a meeting when I was in college, I might be

1368
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: bout fifteen million dollars more richer because she broke it

1369
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: down to these guys her game and what she was

1370
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: trying to accomplish, not just women, just and she even

1371
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: told him I got more the coldest line, she said,

1372
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: I got more checks in my DMS than Nankee. I said, wow, Wow,

1373
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 1: that mean they add him? Yes, okay. And she's trying

1374
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 1: to tell them how this is played out. She said,

1375
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: it's women out there to do their homework. They know

1376
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: everything about y'all because you tell on yourself on the

1377
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: Gram and on social so they know how to go

1378
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: get you and you thinking you conquering it than you

1379
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: ain't because it's all a plan. You think you run

1380
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: a game, and they run a game on you. She

1381
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: was unbelievable, and I'm hoping and I know a few

1382
01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: guys learned tremendously from her speech. She brought us up.

1383
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: She opened a lot of eyes. When you sit down

1384
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: with guys and obviously they want to know about the game,

1385
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: but the football game. But what advice do you give

1386
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: young players when you when you're talking to guys now,

1387
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 1: I mean now you're coaching, it's gonna be a little

1388
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: bit harder for you to get out. But everybody would always,

1389
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, ask you questions, coach time Prime, what advice

1390
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 1: do you give these young guys? What advice did you

1391
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: give them? And work regards, because it's a we're talking

1392
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,719
Speaker 1: about the whole plethora of that. How to approach the game,

1393
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: the game of football, game of football. First of all,

1394
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: you gotta love it. You you're really gonna love it.

1395
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: And some people in like with it, love the game,

1396
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: would love to pay because I think some pop sometimes

1397
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: they love to pay. Boy, That's what I'm saying. So

1398
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 1: the thing about it, the game gonna give you what

1399
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: you give it, right, and when you're not giving it nothing,

1400
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna give you nothing. And you can't prostitute

1401
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: the game. You can't just seduce it and and and

1402
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: act as if it's gonna produces a child for you.

1403
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: It's not gonna do that. The game is sophisticated, man,

1404
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: and the game has game. The game understands what you

1405
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: put in you're gonna get out. The game understands that,

1406
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: uh that has to be affection and attention and consideration

1407
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: for it, for it to give you the results that

1408
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: you want. This game is real, and you can't just

1409
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 1: love this game just for this amount of time. It's

1410
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: like a woman. You got to love her intensely. You

1411
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: gotta take her home with you, you gotta take her

1412
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: out with you. You gotta just shower her with gifts

1413
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: and focus because she needs it and she wants it,

1414
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: and she gonna bless you and make you feel good

1415
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: in all the right ways. But you're gonna have to

1416
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: do what it hadn't been done right. But this game?

1417
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: What about life? What advice do you give the guys

1418
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: about the game of life? The game of life has

1419
01:13:54,960 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: to scoreboard, unfortunately, and it's measured by oftentimes what you

1420
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: have on your shoes, your clothes, where you live, and

1421
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: that's not right. But it does have a scoreboard. But

1422
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: since it has a scoreboard, you don't have to worry

1423
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: about keeping score that way. But how do you play

1424
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: to win? Because anybody that keeps score? I got to

1425
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: play to win? Some food said want to It don't

1426
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: matter if you wouldn't lose it. How you play the game?

1427
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, if it ain't got no scoreboard, right

1428
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: because for a reason, as long as it's a score

1429
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: that I gotta win. Yeah, so it does matter if

1430
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: you win to lose. But I want these guys to

1431
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: always focus on winning and dominate and you can. But

1432
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: it also has to be a plan man. I'm a

1433
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: planner man. We don't do anything without making plans. No,

1434
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: we don't do anything with not being on time. Right. Yeah,

1435
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: So life lessons are deep. It depends on the situation

1436
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: because I can really go into depth in detail because

1437
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: I got a hundred and fifteen young men as well

1438
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: as trainers and equipment persons that I got a pourtant

1439
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: too because that part of my work. Yeah, and I

1440
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 1: want them to And I got to be filled, like

1441
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: I can't be empty because when I'm empty empty, I

1442
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: don't have nothing to give. So I got to keep

1443
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: myself full. And I can't have distractions and and dissension

1444
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: and mess. I can't have ignorance of none of that.

1445
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: So I don't let the family bull drunk get involved.

1446
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't do that, right, I don't know

1447
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: how people do that. I don't do that. They my

1448
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: family know. The quickest way to exit my life is

1449
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: to bring me some bull drunk or some drunk friends

1450
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: as well. I don't. I don't do it. I'm too

1451
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: old and too bold for that. I don't play it.

1452
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: When you when you were doing what I did, you

1453
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: you talked about football. H you did that guys when

1454
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: you said okay, this was wrong or this guy didn't

1455
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: play well. They took a fense to that. And you

1456
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: really never went back at guys. I mean, I'll call you.

1457
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: It was like, bro, they just just pulled the tape.

1458
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,560
Speaker 1: That was all you'd really say. Was it hard for

1459
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: you to bite your tongue because sometimes as an analyst, Yes, yes,

1460
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: because sometimes guys was challenging you, because you gotta understand, Dog,

1461
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: they look up to us, right, we're gold jackets, right

1462
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: and we but we still got a job. Y different, Yes,

1463
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: but it's the way you do your job. See, you

1464
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: do your job well. Dog. But you're much more outspoken

1465
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: right than I was. See. I could never be critical

1466
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 1: of DBS right because it was over right. I say,

1467
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: But but you but you to DV God, Yeah, but

1468
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: you look but you speak on everything. I just spoke

1469
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 1: on one thing. You speak on everything, and we look

1470
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: up to you and we look out for you and

1471
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: your words empower us, right, But the same words that

1472
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: empower us, they take the ad us right, because that's

1473
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 1: how much effect that you have more people. I don't

1474
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: think you know, man, I think sometimes they think that

1475
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: when I say something is personal, and you know, it's

1476
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: never personally personal with you. I mean I can criticize

1477
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: someone and I see you on the street and up, yeah,

1478
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: I ain't blowing. I'm never They still mad. They're still

1479
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: mad because there's power in your tongue. You know that.

1480
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: I didn't at first. I didn't the first time. I

1481
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 1: mean until you pulled me. I mean you you did this,

1482
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: you pulled me to the side. I'm like, bro, I'm

1483
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: just speaking the truth. I mean, it's not as personal

1484
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: with you, he said, But you don't understand who you

1485
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: are and what you've done. A lot of these guys

1486
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: are trying to do what you've done. So they have

1487
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: a gold jacket wearing a three time and the Pro

1488
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: Bowls and All Pro and the All Decade. See, normally,

1489
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,600
Speaker 1: when a normal plunder, a guy that didn't play, or

1490
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: if he did play, it doesn't have the credentials. You

1491
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: can say, well, what did he do? What did you do.

1492
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: They can never say what I did, right, it's documented,

1493
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: So I tried to do a better job, but I can't.

1494
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: I just gotta tell it like you. You, you got

1495
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: to be you, and you can't stop being you. I can't.

1496
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: But you gotta stop caring about what they say. Thank you,

1497
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: because they're gonna say it anyway. Right, But you're as

1498
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: long as your heart stays pure, and you're not doing

1499
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,560
Speaker 1: it with anything. It's not it's not analysis, nothing like that.

1500
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen you mad at nobody. No, I

1501
01:17:54,560 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: don't know. It's I ain't never seen you mad at nobody,

1502
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,839
Speaker 1: or have a dislike of this thing, or talk about anybody.

1503
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: But I ain't never no my life, and I've been

1504
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: knowing you for a long time. And I know he

1505
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 1: ain't no good, But I ain't never seen you. He said,

1506
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm no good for another reason anything, Oh no, no,

1507
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: anything else, but a whole another reason. Yeah, but I've

1508
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: never seen you treat anybody unfairly, and I'll pray for

1509
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,560
Speaker 1: you you do. Yeah, I appreciate that. No, I do,

1510
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: because you though you're our guy. It's sort of like

1511
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: how they lofted me up there at Jackson and I

1512
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 1: was supposed to do this and they want that. You're

1513
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: our guy, so you fight for us? Do you bring

1514
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 1: equality to us? Like you give our side and you

1515
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 1: tell us when we're wrong and you substantiate when you

1516
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 1: when we right. Yes, but you fight for us, and

1517
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: we admired it though we love that. We need that.

1518
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: It's not something I get into it something because it's

1519
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: gonna be some bulletrun full times year. I told you

1520
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: that it's gonna be some bulle drum full times of years.

1521
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: Somebody gonna call it. Hey, one thing about your boy,

1522
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: he got your back. Now, he ain't telling no lie.

1523
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: He checked you when you're wrong, but he's gonna tell

1524
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: the truth when you right. Yeah, and you get you

1525
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: always ring a different perspective than what I thought, because

1526
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't even think in that way. And I'm glad

1527
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: that you have this platform because you got time to

1528
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: flush out your thoughts. Yes, yes, I needed more testing,

1529
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: but you always told me that. You told me when

1530
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 1: I got this job at CBS, say you'll be good

1531
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: at it. He said, But that's not your final platform,

1532
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 1: that's not your that's not your final calling. He says.

1533
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: You need time. He says, I've been around you and

1534
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: the way you think and what you have to say.

1535
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: You need more than ten stef. I think they do

1536
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: that in on the thirty seconds. You too, was trying

1537
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: to do it in thirty seconds fifteen seconds, then they

1538
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: hauling wrap. Why are you talking? You're almost cussed. One

1539
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: show a bunch of show, mother time. I want to

1540
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 1: say congrats, thank you. I mean, from the bottom of

1541
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: my heart, no one is more deserving. I know what

1542
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 1: you put in to get to this point, so you're

1543
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: very deserving of everything that you've gotten to this point.

1544
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: And I want to say thank you for what you

1545
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 1: did at Jackson State. I want to say thank you

1546
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: for bringing there a lot more of attention. HBCUs we're

1547
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: good before you arrive. They're gonna be good, but I

1548
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: hopefully they become better because of what you've done. Best

1549
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: of luck. Here one more thing. I saw all the

1550
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: celebrities that you had at Jackson State, or you're gonna

1551
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: have the celebrities like that at SEU, and you know it.

1552
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: I try to bring get It Wallow on the flat

1553
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: the night, but they had to go shoot the show.

1554
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: But you know everyone has called and said, we're riding

1555
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: with you, boss. We got you open and Saturday appeals

1556
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 1: to your boy. I'm holding I'm holding the seat right.

1557
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 1: That's aid my offer because I can't put you in

1558
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: the stand because they gonn get on your nerves right there,

1559
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: and I never be here, you boy, you know your

1560
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: boy be here. You know you weren't rock with you.

1561
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: Oh No, I know you're gonna rock women. I know

1562
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a little bit more busy now, so

1563
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: I probably won't get an opportunity to talk to you

1564
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: every week. That's a lot. You come into summer and

1565
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: show my tight ends. So I got you, I got you,

1566
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: But I loved this man. You gotta It's a Doctorrsel series,

1567
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime Video, Coach Prime and we'll be able to

1568
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: watch the twenty everything behind this everything, the entire twenty

1569
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: twenty two season. Yea. But we will see the highs,

1570
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 1: the lows, the in betweens, that how it really felt

1571
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: about something that I really couldn't disclosed. Right, You're gonna

1572
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: see how it played out right because a lot of

1573
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: things they don't know how to play it out right. Well,

1574
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, we keep receipts, yes, and we're gonna play

1575
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: it out. It's wonderful why would you want people to

1576
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 1: get that kind of glimpse into your life until the

1577
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 1: into working then behind the scenes of what it's like

1578
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: to be out of college program, particularly HBCU. Because our

1579
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: kids want exposure and I promised them I would give

1580
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: them exposure. Okay, now you're getting to see our program

1581
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: on the inside and out and what these kids won't followers, right,

1582
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: they won't like, right, they won't love, and we're gonna

1583
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: give them an exposure that they deserve. Are you? Are

1584
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: you gonna put something together like that? It see you

1585
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: for your first year and you already know, yes, already

1586
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: to work already, it's already you already know by dollars,

1587
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: let's love. It still ain't no good look around what's

1588
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: going through the line? Oh he's been fan of Deeper

1589
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: everybody did that was cause this is unbelievable, man, Wow,

1590
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: like like, this is unbelievable and the thing that God

1591
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: choose me and my staff for a task, I I

1592
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: I love it, but it's it's it's I don't have words, China. Honestly,

1593
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 1: I'm still in awe of this cause we didn't dream

1594
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: about this, right, Our dream is always about the kids, right,

1595
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: and just so it happens this involved the kids. Okay,

1596
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: so that's what the dream was. But let me make

1597
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: sure these kids get what they want. Let me make

1598
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: sure these kids get the exposure they won't. Let me

1599
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: make sure these kids make it to the NFL. Make it.

1600
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: Make sure these kids be professionals. Let me make sure

1601
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: these kids develop. You know what I mean, be great, man, great, Yes,

1602
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: you know that's what it's about. This just comes along

1603
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: with it. Was there ever a plan? You coach little league,

1604
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: you coach high school football? You went to an HBCU

1605
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: with their timeline that says, no, what if I don't

1606
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: get a Pot five job? No, I'm school we want

1607
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about I wasn't thinking about coaching, Like Shadoor

1608
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: was getting ready to go to FAU with coach Tagger. Okay,

1609
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: Charlotte was at South Carolina. Baby girl was still hooping,

1610
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, I get a chill, right, I've

1611
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: been chasing and running after them, Yeah, you know, coaching

1612
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 1: every team they hands. Yeah, baby, yes, I'll get ready

1613
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 1: to chill right. Then the call start coming. Okay, and

1614
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: that's it for real. So let me get repaired, you know, yes, yes,

1615
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 1: let me get repaired. Let me put the staff together,

1616
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 1: let me do it. Not to cut you off, but

1617
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: when you were coaching your kids in high school, no one,

1618
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: no school picked up. That's when it started happening. That's

1619
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: when coach Ray pretty and Constance was the management team. Like,

1620
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 1: you know, people are calling that you fust coaching. Let's

1621
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: see what you mean, coaching in the next level. I

1622
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: see what you mean. They say, coaching at the next level.

1623
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: Who and he started getting me the names, right. I said,

1624
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: I gotta get prepared, right. I can't go on to

1625
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: interview and not ready. So we started getting really prepared,

1626
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean prepared, prepared right. So when we met with them,

1627
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: we gave them a whole synopsis of this is your

1628
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 1: three to five year playing this is what I'm gonna

1629
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: do right and three to five this is why I'm

1630
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: gonna make it have. This is your roster and what

1631
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 1: you currently have. This is what we could go get

1632
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: right now right, That's how it came about. Okay, So

1633
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: with was Jackson or with Jackson stay the only job

1634
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 1: that you interviewed for, No, jack I didn't I no, no,

1635
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: not whatsoever. There were two pay fives okay, and uh

1636
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: then once the call start coming from Jackson. I didn't

1637
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 1: know what Jackson was right. I had to really do

1638
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 1: my homework and understand the history, right of Jackson, then

1639
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: the history of HBCUs. I had to do my homework

1640
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: act that's the true story. And then I started thinking, Hey,

1641
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: especially with what was going on in the pandemic, George

1642
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: Floyd and so forth, Hey, this might work out. God work, God, God,

1643
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do. Because I knew I was

1644
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 1: overqualified to get those right, but you closed the door.

1645
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 1: So what you're trying to do? Let me right there.

1646
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: Ashley Robinson had been calling me a d and uh.

1647
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 1: Jackson had been calling me for weeks at a time,

1648
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: and he's good. He did his homework. And the thing

1649
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: that really got me, he said, how's Bossy doing? I say,

1650
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: how you know y'all call my daughter bossy? He said, Man,

1651
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: come on, I'm wrong studying you like you studied up.

1652
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: So it was just a match made in having this right.

1653
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: I met with him, and uh, the rest is history,

1654
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:55,759
Speaker 1: thest his history. Look around this this you're here, power

1655
01:25:55,880 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 1: five D one all that you? Yeah, I mean, I

1656
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:08,560
Speaker 1: could see them cheering and chanting. I could feel the emotions.

1657
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: I can feel the honger and the thirst, and that

1658
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 1: won't for us to just fall out, right, cause some

1659
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: dogs to run out that tunnel, right, you know, behind

1660
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: wrap and do the thing. Lets get the rap rapping,

1661
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: got to meet yeah before we run out. Okay, okay,

1662
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: your side take that right turn and you know they

1663
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 1: say no, well mean yeah, yeah, you ain't the old Prada,

1664
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 1: the old dog. I can see it, right, I can

1665
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: feel it. Shit, I'm like this this is uh, this

1666
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: is it, man, this is this is We're gonna pack

1667
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: this thing. Man, when you laid your head on your

1668
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: pill at night and dreamed and bought, is this what

1669
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: you thought? I kind of see the conclusion of it,

1670
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: Okay before gud shows me the beginning. That's why I say.

1671
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,799
Speaker 1: I just see it packed in people's screaming, chanting and steering,

1672
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: and they're happy there, lady, and we win it right

1673
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: and winning right and winning. That's where I see. You know,

1674
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,799
Speaker 1: I want to give the University Colorado some credit. Everybody

1675
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 1: talks about diversity. John Emry I played with him at Denver.

1676
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: Uh called the rail Uh. I forget the the guy,

1677
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: uh Mail Tucker and now you four. I think in

1678
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years, it's been four. That's that. That's

1679
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: a tribute to Rick George I A d. He's an

1680
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: unbelievable human being, a god fearing man, a man that

1681
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: understands people, and a man that does not see color.

1682
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 1: He sees the need and the desire and the one, okay,

1683
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: and he trying to bring connectivity to the one and

1684
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 1: need with that person and trance to bring them together.

1685
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 1: He is the reason I'm hearing right because I met

1686
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 1: with others, right, several others, okay, but he was the

1687
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: difference man. He was a difference And you gotta understand

1688
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: this is unlikely for me, right, Flora, right live in Texas, Yes,

1689
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: so you know call us. Come on, you've been in

1690
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: the South exactly, and you don't never played the snow, right,

1691
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 1: fourteen years right now? Never played the snow. Wow. I

1692
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: remember it was so cold one time in Green Bay.

1693
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: I said, I go out when it's time to kick off.

1694
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm not going to so so doing this. I was

1695
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 1: checking the weather every day, right, I say, Rick, man

1696
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 1: look pretty colder than me. He'll send me a beautiful

1697
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: picture of a day like this, right, he said, No,

1698
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: it's about sixty two. You said, Uh, the a D president.

1699
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,719
Speaker 1: They made an impression on you. You're not easily impressed. Yeah,

1700
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: a man is an accomplished as you are. Been where

1701
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,879
Speaker 1: you've been. You had heard a lot of self pictures.

1702
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: What was it about his pictures? Ondesty man in his

1703
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 1: heart and his passion for this university like he wanted

1704
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: to make change. He said that they deserved a winner,

1705
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: and I feel like you're a winner. Yes, this is

1706
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna make sure this university

1707
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: wins before I leave here. That's what he said. And

1708
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna do everything we had we we can to

1709
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: give you the resources to make that happen. And it

1710
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: has been true since the day I said I do

1711
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 1: Do they do they know who they hire? Yes? What

1712
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 1: punt of me? Fun of me? Maybe show make a

1713
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: show out? All right? Can we can we act right? Please? Okay? Okay, right,

1714
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 1: they don't so, okay, okay, what you mean by it?

1715
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: Because I know you see you come here? Yes, Yes,

1716
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: it'll be great for the job. First of all, I told.

1717
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm told good. Second of all, get

1718
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: to it. You're like, I really appreciate this opportunity. I

1719
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: just want you to know this opportunity will not be

1720
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: wasted or s wander. I believe in you. Thank you

1721
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 1: for believing in me. I mean you all, that's that's

1722
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: not how you really talk, cause I know we're talking

1723
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 1: with and then it's like, well, we want you to

1724
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: be yourself. I would be myself. Did you? Did you switch?

1725
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 1: Stop photos? So I know how you gonna No, no,

1726
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 1: trust me. You gotta understanding before Rick getting that cup

1727
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 1: or get on the jet the cup and see me.

1728
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: You know they did their homework, know you know. And

1729
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 1: one thing that he elaborated, he wanted me to be me.

1730
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: I said, it's good because I don't know how else

1731
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 1: to be. How can I don't know how exactly? Just

1732
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 1: like you ain't no other shakes? Come on, baby, I

1733
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: called you you know that right and asked you about this.

1734
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 1: People don't know that I don't did you my brother?

1735
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: I know? And uh, and I know I gave you.

1736
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: I gave you my honest opinion and uh, but I

1737
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 1: want I wanted you to share your joy. I was

1738
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: happy for you. Know, I was happy for you. I say, brother,

1739
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you, but I wanted you and

1740
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 1: it's like you know, like duh yeah, I knew that's

1741
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 1: not my place. That's not my place to steal this

1742
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: thunder the man is going to be a head coach

1743
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 1: at the Power five from a from an HBCU, which

1744
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:18,560
Speaker 1: that's never happened. He's got to share that moment, not me.

1745
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 1: He you know what, I know, you like a book

1746
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: and you know how much you're luck and I know

1747
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: how you feel about me. Yeah, he was mad with you.

1748
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: If the folks, I was because they only see what

1749
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 1: you didn't do it and they don't give you credit

1750
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: for what you did do. And I was very disappointed

1751
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: at that. That's all. But one thing about it. One

1752
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: thing I know for Shore, Oh you gonna have me back.

1753
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 1: But but you're a straight shoot one thing everybody straight

1754
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: ain't no purchase. If I'm wrong, you're gonna tell you.

1755
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,560
Speaker 1: You don't call me. I will call you friend. You

1756
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: will call me first, let me know. I'm going to

1757
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 1: say yes. So that's what I love. That's the that's

1758
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 1: the respect that we have for one another. And when

1759
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, if I say something on there, he's like, bro,

1760
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't I don't agree with what you want back

1761
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, so how your opinion, right, opinion?

1762
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: How can you be wrong with your thinking? The one

1763
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 1: thing that you did tell me and I've tried to

1764
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: do take a bit, you know, he said, you have

1765
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: to understand how credential you are. Do you understand who

1766
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: you are? Your word, carriage weight? You're not just some

1767
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 1: pundit on TV. Right, You're a three time Super Bowl

1768
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: gold jacket wearing and you're a real one. Yes, so

1769
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: you have to. So they're gonna take what you say

1770
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: to heart a lot more because they know you know

1771
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, and they're fans of you. Yes. Yes,

1772
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 1: So it's like, man, I looked up at you and

1773
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: you offended me right right, Like how can you shoot

1774
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 1: at me? And I looked up to man, there's sometimes

1775
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 1: I said, y'all offended me with that place. Words cannot

1776
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: properly express how proud I am of you, what you've

1777
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 1: been able to do, where you come from. I know

1778
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 1: how much you wanted a moment like this. I'm proud.

1779
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: You know. If you ever need anything from me, you

1780
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 1: know you can call me. And if I don't have it,

1781
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 1: and I know somebody that does, I'm gonna put you

1782
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: in touch with him so you can get it to

1783
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: make sure you have everything that you need to be successful.

1784
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna be successful. You've been successful that

1785
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: everything you've ever done in life. You know. I love Hey.

1786
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't love you like a brother. You are my brother.

1787
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 1: Ain't know people said I love him like a brother. No,

1788
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 1: this is my brother, and I'm so happy for you.

1789
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of your brother. I need one thing, though,

1790
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: cause you just told me that anything. I need what

1791
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: you need? These houses? Smith? Do I know a relative?

1792
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: Can you get a hook? I need a look up

1793
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 1: for getting the reals. I'm about to put two trailers

1794
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 1: on some prother. Hey, i'd be sleeping in your car

1795
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: and you got sprint. You got sprint of man? Right? No,

1796
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: I don't. I may sleeping. Maybe I know somebody that

1797
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: can hook you with a friend. And you got one.

1798
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 1: I ain't got one. I ain't got one. But I

1799
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 1: can't get you one. All my life, running all my life,

1800
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 1: sack fights, hustle, Patrick pricing, Want a slice? Got the

1801
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 1: brother the dice? Swath all my life. I've been grunding

1802
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:05,600
Speaker 1: all my life, all my life, been running all my life, sacrifice,

1803
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 1: lustle bay, the prices, one the slice after bailing Dice

1804
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 1: to swap all my life. I've been running all my life.