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Speaker 1: those captivating moments in this special best of episode, Let's

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Speaker 2: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion to talks.

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Speaker 3: How do you not catch feelings when dealing with men?

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Speaker 3: When dating? Is it possible to not catch feelings?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, women, we are emotional beings, That's

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Speaker 3: what niggas be saying. But I feel like men are

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Speaker 3: actually way more emotional than us. But sometimes we might

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Speaker 3: hallucinate a little bit. Sometimes we may get things misconscrewed

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Speaker 3: when engaging with the opposite second, So how do you

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Speaker 3: We've already had an episode on dating and like the

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Speaker 3: different levels of dating, But how do you actually date

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Speaker 3: without catching feelings for someone?

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Speaker 2: But let me ask you this, Why are we dating

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Speaker 2: and not trying to catch feelings? That's what I don't understand, Like,

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Speaker 2: my whole goal is to always catch feelings.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes women catch feelings with everybody that they're dating, though

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Speaker 3: that's the problem if you're not dating multiple people at

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Speaker 3: one time. I'm saying, like, if you're honing in on

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Speaker 3: this one person and you're catching feelings and they aren't,

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Speaker 3: it's a problem, is it not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to be the only one in

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Speaker 2: your feelings. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I think a lot of times we may go

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Speaker 3: into relationships or situations for different reasons.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I think most women probably date with intents, Right, We're

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Speaker 3: not just out here entertaining men without the hopes of

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Speaker 3: the of the situation going to the next level. Right,

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Speaker 3: But men oftentimes are dating to have sex, that's it.

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Speaker 3: They might have five dates this week and instead of

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Speaker 3: dating one person that they really like, who they know

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Speaker 3: is going to give them some cucci, they're just dating

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Speaker 3: five people to see how many they can get kuci

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Speaker 2: But I know it's women who date five people to

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Speaker 2: have dinner.

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Speaker 3: All week, call those dinner wars. And that's fine too,

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Speaker 3: But at least one of those dudes she actually likes

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Speaker 3: and is probably not trying to play with like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I agree, But so how do you avoid catching feelings

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Speaker 3: for someone? Isn't always entirely within your control, But here

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Speaker 3: are some strategies to help minimize the chances. And this

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Speaker 3: is and this could be if you're dating multiple people

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Speaker 3: and you're really trying to I feel like sometimes black

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Speaker 3: women have attached issues. It could be all women, but

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying for us, we're not used to dating, right,

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Speaker 3: which you mean you get I think from childhood we're

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Speaker 3: told to go to school, get money. We're not like

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Speaker 3: dating how white girls get to date at a young age.

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Speaker 3: So once we get like people, we'd be holding on

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Speaker 3: to them or really like we stay in situations, relationships

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Speaker 3: too long, let them go and move on to the

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Speaker 3: next person. So you can you know, as you're doing this,

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Speaker 3: you're you're seeing what it is that you want, what

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Speaker 3: you don't want. You're not staying in a bad situation

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Speaker 3: too fucking long and missing blessings and all the good shit,

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Speaker 3: missing the person you're actually supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: I never took them on a date, and that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: And you're hallucinating like now you're now you have feelings

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Speaker 3: with somebody who has done nothing for you, nothing emotionally,

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Speaker 3: nothing financially, nothing.

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Speaker 2: Just dicking you down.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: And if you hear it, say you know that you bitch,

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Speaker 2: you better leader, Nigga long before thee here.

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Speaker 3: But even getting dicked down, Like, how do you avoid

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Speaker 3: emotions when getting dicked down? Like I don't hallucinate even

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Speaker 3: when I'm getting good dick from somebody At the minute

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Speaker 3: I see some shit I don't like, like nowadays, and

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Speaker 3: it's it's a place I had to get to. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't happen overnight. You just turn your emotions off like

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Speaker 2: Oh No, that don't work for me. That's why I

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Speaker 2: have to be very selective about who I get my

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, we love. I'm a marrial. I can

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Speaker 3: So maybe there's some Gemini shit. I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: It takes me a long time to really, really really

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Speaker 2: be locked in. But once I'm locked in, it's hard

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Speaker 2: to get me away. Like we go together, Nigga, where

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Speaker 2: you thought you was going?

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Speaker 3: It depends on how we had sex. If we use

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Speaker 3: the condom. I'm not studying your ass. Real, you start

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Speaker 3: hitting that pussy rod, you're my husband? Where are you?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: What you thought?

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Speaker 2: This one? Now? It don't make no difference for me.

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Speaker 3: Nah, It make it like I'm not studying. No condom, Dick.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like I lost anything. It don't count.

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Speaker 2: And we use the condom all are you guys? We're back?

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Speaker 2: And I hit up AJ because I had got a

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Speaker 2: like pity pussy was a real thing? Because she felt

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Speaker 2: like she just gave up some and I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: what you mean? And she shared with me how a

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Speaker 2: he's a really nice guy. That's how she described him.

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Speaker 2: But she like they were watching a movie or something

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Speaker 2: it wasn't good and she didn't enjoy it, but she

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Speaker 2: made me think about like the idea of what pity

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Speaker 3: What's pretty Yeah, because I've definitely given a man pity

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Speaker 3: she has to work with this guy, Yes, I have definitely.

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Speaker 3: You know it's and I talked about this on my

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Speaker 3: homeboy Von Ray's podcast, Set the record straight. How I

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Speaker 3: think this happens to women a lot and men may

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Speaker 3: And this is why I'm against women. If you don't

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not technically, it's not a forced situation,

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Speaker 3: How do you just without hurting this man's ego? How

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Speaker 3: I just went ahead and had sex with you when

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Speaker 3: I really didn't want to. And maybe I would have

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Speaker 3: want to fuck you know a month from now. You

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Speaker 3: I'm out of there. Nigga blocks So it happen.

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Speaker 2: But is that pity sex or is it just like

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Speaker 2: they're almost hair nigga?

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Speaker 3: It's almost borderline kind of Yeah, r it.

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Speaker 2: Sounds rapist, Can I say that?

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Speaker 3: Yes? I said that before, right, so maybe you bleep it.

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Speaker 3: But it is a little bit. It's it's a great

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Speaker 3: and I'm saying this is in my younger days, this

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Speaker 3: of there. But young girls like sometimes they don't know

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Speaker 3: why I just don't put yourself in there in it

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Speaker 2: Like a nigga said he want to cook for you

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Speaker 3: Exactly went out, you know, in the he cut his

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Speaker 3: He cut the internet service. TV went out. I'm the

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Speaker 2: Some minute, but she said it like it sounds like

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Speaker 3: Man actually wants. Like, well, actually we had a man

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Speaker 3: But do they give a fuck? I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: They don't care as long as they hitting it, they

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Speaker 3: All right, y'all were back, and we want to know,

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Speaker 3: are you a girls girl?

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Speaker 2: Damn?

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Speaker 3: Do you think you're a girl's girl.

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Speaker 2: I'm absolutely a girl's girl.

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Speaker 3: I think I am too, okay, based on the characteristics

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Speaker 3: of what a girl's girl is. But this is like

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Speaker 3: in the comments like, oh she is not a girl's girl. Now,

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Speaker 3: that's one thing I don't agree with. Like everybody ain't

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Speaker 3: this girl, Christina Mackie, people are saying that she's not

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Speaker 3: a girl's girl, she's actually a pigmy, which I consider

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Speaker 3: the counter for girls girl tam. Thing's different, though, So

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Speaker 3: what is a girl's girl to you?

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Speaker 2: To me? I guess a girl's girl to me is

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Speaker 2: someone who advocates for women in all ways, you know,

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Speaker 2: like even the smallest of things, just seeing a woman

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Speaker 2: okay dress, you know, just just their energy, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I call it a hype girl, because bitch, I'd

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Speaker 3: like I'm in your comments, like if you look good,

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Speaker 3: like hey, girl, you look good. Da da da da,

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Speaker 3: even on the streets. Those are That's what I consider

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Speaker 2: Right, But that's the most basic, Like if you if

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Speaker 2: It's definitely if you can put somebody in position, you know,

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Speaker 2: you or that that's not necessarily true. Like it was

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Speaker 3: And I still have stories about her friendships with other

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Speaker 2: Right right, Absolutely, I'll be falling out with bitches. But

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Speaker 2: People either love or hate how forward I am at

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Speaker 2: But they have. Most the people who are very close

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Speaker 3: I can give you thirty bitches in my phone that

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Speaker 3: seemed just like me? Right, So it's like a tactic

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of Yeah. I see a lot of

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not, that's a pick me.

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Speaker 3: Day, right. So these are the things I came up

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Speaker 3: Girl, you know, like you already trying to make sure

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Speaker 2: Everybody on point is good?

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Speaker 3: Right, Even women you don't know. With friends, you post

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Speaker 3: Right? And even catching candid photos of your friend when

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Speaker 2: But you know what, sometimes I somebody will post a

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