1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Hell that for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for a day 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: at the steak? Is that? Whoo whoom? 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye welcome back to the saliverbal boys 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: and girls. My name is ty Hild the rand over there. 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: You're watching the video Dan Rubenstein, the illustrious Dan Rubenstein today, Sir, 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: how are. 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: You stock down on sleep? Stock up on the solid verbal. 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm excited for today's show. We this is going to 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: be not just an annual tradition, but maybe a monthly 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: tradition based on how active this specific topic is and 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: seems to be in the off season. But I'm t 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: it's always a pleasure to be here with you. 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 1: You know that I and you as well. I am 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: thrilled to be here. I'm excited about this show. You 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: you presented this general concept to me. Now full disclosure, 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't know the theme, right, I don't know the 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: theme that you're going to lay down at the feet 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: of the transfer portal show that we are doing here today. 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: So we're all excited for that. But that aside, I'm 23 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: thrilled to be doing this show. I have read so 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: much about the transfer portal over the last couple of months. 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Some people get into recruiting, 26 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: some people get into schemes, some people get into the 27 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: coaching carousel. For sure, I'm into all of those things. 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 1: I do a college football podcast. Right, nothing has gotten 29 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: the juice is flowing for me quite like the transfer portal. 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's because Notre Dame has been active. Notre Dame 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: gets Sam Hartman, and know some of my other teams 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: that I follow more closely, Penn State has been active 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: in the portal, right. I don't know if it's because 34 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: those teams have a lot to gain in the portal, 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: or if it's just because the portal has really given 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: me something that I have been lacking as a college 37 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: football fan, which is a constant state of variability, a 38 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: constant state of volatility. Volatility, right, Like, something can always 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: change in the transfer portal at a moment's notice. And 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: for sure, that to me has been pretty cool, pretty 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: exciting to follow. 42 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting because you can look at this 43 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: from a team fandom perspective and it seems to have 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: been a good year for Notre Dame. It seems to 45 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: have been a good year for Oregon. If they've lost 46 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: a ton, they've added a ton. And then you have 47 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: to look at it from a college football perspective, which 48 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: is some people like, oh, man, this is pretty destructive 49 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: even though there were pro player, even though we're pro freedom. 50 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: And then the way the coaches have it, like you 51 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: can understand on a certain level, like man, it's tough 52 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: following everything, and it's tough when you like looking at 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: the sport with like, all right, these are this team's guys, 54 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: and I've known them for two or three years, and 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: they're going into battle against this team with these guys 56 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: that I know about and I have known about for 57 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: two or three years, and so it makes it more difficult. 58 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: But that's somewhat the appeal of college football. Everything about 59 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: college football is difficult. Being a fan of college football, 60 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 2: no matter how good or bad your team is, can 61 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: be challenging. And so the transfer portal just adds a 62 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: new wrinkle. And every so often there's just a new 63 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: wrinkle added to this very chaotic sport. So what I 64 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: want to do today, ty is I don't want to 65 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: look at the best players. I don't want to look at, 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: you know, the most shocking guys to enter the portal. 67 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: I mean, hell, since we started, you know, organizing for 68 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: this show this morning and just you know, scheduling and 69 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: recording and everything. Walker Howard to Ole miss correct, Yeah, 70 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: Walker Howard to Ole miss to Leah Tungavaloa announced he's 71 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: coming back, which is not a transfer. Of course, we've 72 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: got Michigan's offensive coordinator on leave because of computer access 73 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: issues whatever that not on a federal level, yeah, but 74 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: I don't know state local level. Jake Garcia obviously a 75 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: highly touted recruit who stepped into duty when Tyler Van 76 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: Dyke got injured this year from Miami. He entered the 77 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: portal in the last I don't know hour or two. 78 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: We've had some NFL declarations. Quentin Johnston Kendre Miller from 79 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: Big twelve runner up TCU. Why do I have to 80 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: say it like that? Ty? What is it about me? 81 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: When you do that? You could say national runner up? Yeah, 82 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: market pretty much cornered. 83 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, semi final Fiesta Bowl champion TCU, so obvious moves there. 84 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: It's Jim Harbaugh coming back. Jim Harbaugh's returning to Michigan. 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: It can never be a quiet offseason for Michigan people, right, No, 86 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: it can never just be like, well, we built upon 87 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: that really fun season and attracted even better recruiting in 88 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: portal class. Nope, there's always something. There's always something, and 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: you know that's also college football. It's a sport where 90 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: there's always something. But because you're so into the portal 91 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: and I'm pretty much into the portal, I wanted to 92 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: review our most intriguing players, situations, storylines, whatever of I 93 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: guess the first or second portal cycle of the twenty 94 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: twenty three She is. 95 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: A constant cycle, dude, It just keeps going. 96 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: It is a constant cycle. But like there are times 97 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: when you can and can't visit or can and can't 98 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: enter the portal. And obviously the next cycle is probably 99 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: going to be mid or after spring football or summer whatever, 100 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: when jobs become more clear, depth charts become more clear. 101 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 2: So what I wanted to do is intriguing, right that 102 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: just it's it's scratching us where we itch, whether it 103 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: be because of player, coach, school situation, whatever. We've each 104 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: come up with a list of intriguing situations. 105 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: Can you confirm this I can't confirm. 106 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So for our theme today, I was just 107 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: thinking about it, Tye, as I tend to do, and 108 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: taking a chance transferring right can be hit or miss. 109 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: So I propose, Tye, we take a look at the 110 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: players and schools and their stories so far, and hopefully 111 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: it works out for them, and it's all as they 112 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: go to a new place. We hope they've found what 113 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: they're looking for, which ultimately is personal and team glory. 114 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Little eight bit action there, and I appreciate that. 115 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: How'd I do? How'd I do? 116 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: Ty You did well on about seventeen different levels with 117 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: this man. 118 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: Again, this does nothing to change our reputation as dork's 119 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: shoehorning in things into a college football show just to 120 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: prove they can to a very small portion of the 121 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: audience who will understand and be impressed. Yeah, this changes nothing. 122 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: This changes nothing. This is who we are. It's who 123 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: we can only be who we are. 124 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: A little NFG up in here on the SV talking 125 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: TP the other TP transfer. I won't I. 126 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: Won't make us talk about like if it's going to 127 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: be downhill from here or is it going to be 128 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: a head on collision for this transfer I'm not We're 129 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: not going to take it further than the already strenuous, tenuous, 130 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 2: whatever place that we've found ourselves in as transfer portal 131 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: players look for that new found glory. 132 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, are we gonna Are we gonna go to a 133 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: place where we talk about Dion Sanders taking my friends 134 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: over you? Oh? 135 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I tried to shoehorn 136 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: that in. 137 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: That was pretty much his introductory speech. 138 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: That's true, that's a good call. 139 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: I did want to call back very quickly to the 140 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: fine folks who are watching right now. Courtesy overballers dot com. 141 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: We've got a teaming Patreon community that we've talked about 142 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: time and again throughout the course of the season. It 143 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: grew to new heights this season. So far in the 144 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: off season, if you go in the discord, you can 145 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: still see people are chatting about college football, really chatting 146 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: about everything. We've got a channel for you if you're 147 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: just interested in hanging out with cool people, because that's 148 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: really what our community is Forballers dot com is where 149 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: you can go check out the off season benefits. Jump 150 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: on in. We've got stuff that we're constantly talking about 151 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: that we can add to the list of perks that 152 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: are available to our Patreon subscribers. We were just kicking 153 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: around a few earlier today, so we're excited about what 154 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: the off season has in store from a Patreon perspective, 155 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: but just in general from a community perspective, because we're 156 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: so proud of the community that we've built. It might 157 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: not be for everybody, that's cool, but at least give 158 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: it a give it a checkout over at forballers dot com. 159 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: And by the way, anybody watching this, please drop any 160 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: new transfer news that breaks during the show, because that 161 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: also happens. 162 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: Why don't we start with Dean Sanders. So the two 163 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: name brand even gonna say name brand in air quotes 164 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: transfers that are coming with him from Jackson State are 165 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: obviously Travis Hunter, big time defensive back, five star defensive 166 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: back formerly committed to Florida State, flipped his commitment on 167 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: the day of the Jackson State I guess over a 168 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: year ago. And Shaderra Sanders, his son, the quarterback, who 169 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: was a four star in his own right, recruited by 170 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: pretty much everybody in the South right. So these are 171 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: two big time talents that are coming with him from 172 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 1: Jackson State to Colorado. Colorado as a whole since he 173 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: got there, has been extremely active in the transfer portal. 174 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know what the number is up to 175 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: now of the guys that he is bringing with him, 176 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: but it extends far beyond Travis Hunter and Shuldar Sanders. 177 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: Jimmy Horne from USF the receiver, Cavasier Smoke the running 178 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: back from Kentucky, the big tight end I don't have 179 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: his name in front of me from Arkansas State right. 180 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: He's been very active and just trying to, I think, 181 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: up the talent level across the board. They've gotten some 182 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: real talent that has come on over to Boulder. Now. 183 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: I think it's at least thirteen transfers, but I'm sure 184 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: the number is higher at this point. 185 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: Sure. 186 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: Why this is intriguing to me is that they have 187 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: to be better than one and eleven next season. They 188 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: just have to, if only because of the influx of 189 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: talent that he is bringing with him too Boulder, from 190 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: Jackson State and from other parts across the country. Dion 191 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: Sanders is going to have this Colorado team playing at 192 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: a higher than one win level next season. But what 193 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: I think makes this even more intriguing is the fact 194 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: that we can't quite map out how much better it's 195 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: going to be. We don't know what the ceiling looks like. 196 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: Because this is a coach who's not coach at the 197 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: FBS level. Because there is talent coming from the FCS level, 198 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: we don't know how that translates to the Pac twelve. 199 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: All too often when we do our preview content, we 200 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: are talking in terms of how a team did last year, 201 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: and how a coach did last year, or how a 202 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: coach did at a previous stop. All of this is 203 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: sort of new territory on the Colorado side. Not just 204 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: that he's taking over a one and eleven school, but 205 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: there's no go buy here. I don't have a good 206 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: a good marker that I can look at, something that 207 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: can help me measure how good Dion's class Dion as 208 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: a coach will be or won't be right coming into 209 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, you factor in that they also play 210 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: a really tough schedule in year one for Deon Sanders. 211 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: We shouldn't overlook the fact that they've got National runner 212 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,239 Speaker 1: up TCU first game of the season, They've got Nebraska 213 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: second game of the season, They're on the road at Oregon, 214 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: they're on the road at UCLA, they're on the road 215 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: at Utah. They've also got to play USC. Of course, 216 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: they've got to play USC. So I think on some 217 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: level the transfer thing is obviously very very intriguing talent 218 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: coming to Boulder. But beyond that, Deon's ability to organize 219 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: that talent, Deon's ability to get buy in from the 220 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: players that are already on the roster, Deon's ability to 221 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: maybe throw something new at some of these schools, is 222 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: that he's going to have to play against, which is, again, 223 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: I think, a tough schedule. If he can get this 224 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: team to a bowl, if he can get this team 225 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: to within a bowl conversation, Yeah, can you imagine the 226 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: juice that is going to be on Colorado going into 227 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: twenty four? Can you possibly imagine what that looks like? 228 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: It depends who replaces Deon Sanders as he takes a 229 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 2: bigger job in twenty more. Yeah, oh absolutely wow. So 230 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: is there a specific player, I mean, there's an obvious 231 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: player right that. In terms of intriguing players that made 232 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: the move to Colorado, it's Travis Hunter. 233 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: Well, Travis Hunter is intriguing because he's such top flight 234 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: talent and also because Colorado was so bad on defense, 235 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm actually inclined to say Shaari Sanders as a more 236 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: intriguing thing to watch. He's going to get the ball more. 237 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: He was. He was a relatively high level recruit. 238 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: He was a four star Hive Star. Yeah, he's recruited 239 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: by Sark when Sark was at Alabama, recruited to a 240 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: bunch of schools throughout the South. And so just I 241 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: think by virtue of the fact that he's going to 242 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: get the ball more, we're going to get to see 243 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: what that offense looks like with him running it with Dion, 244 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, obviously putting his system in place. I think, 245 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: to me, he's the more intriguing guy to follow. Travis Hunter, 246 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: I think is going to be high level, no matter 247 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: where he plays, will be high level. 248 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. So he played two way, and Dion talked about 249 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: how that was a big recruiting win for him, not 250 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: just getting Travis Hunter to Jackson State, but because he said, 251 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: playoffense and defense. It's great. You look like a terrific receiver. 252 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: And he's made plays. He had nineteen catches eighteen catches 253 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: last year, So he wasn't full time, he wasn't the 254 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: lead receiver. As far as I can tell, it's Travis 255 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 2: Hunter to me and Shuro Sanders. Obviously, quarterback is the 256 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: most important position on the field. But because of the 257 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: name recognition level of Travis Hunter and what he could 258 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: popossibly and now, Dion also signed Kevin Coleman out of 259 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: high school, a blue chip receiver. He ended up transferring 260 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: to I think Louisville after Dion left for Colorado, so 261 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: he didn't follow him there. So Travis Hunter, it's it's 262 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: the name thing. And I know Deon flipped. I think 263 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: a Notre dame running back commitment, a speedy running back 264 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 2: from Kansas. But in terms of portal, Travis Hunter star 265 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: power in Colorado, in Boulder and what he can do 266 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: because look how many great two way players have we 267 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: seen in the last decade three It's not a lot 268 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: of them. 269 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: Man. 270 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: So is he that next guy who is just so 271 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: transcendent that you have to play him on both sides 272 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: of the ball. Likely? Yes, So in terms of a 273 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: reason to watch Colorado, we know they're not going to 274 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: be very good. You just need a deeper roster and 275 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: a more talented roster than what we think they'll have 276 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: come late August, early September whatever when they played TCU 277 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: to open the season. But star power goes a long 278 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: way even if a team is average if you have 279 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: that guy, right, if you have that you know, linebacker 280 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: slash running back, corner slash receiver, safety slash receiver, returner 281 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: slash corner, whatever, which is one and a half way. 282 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: I'm intrigued. I want to watch Travis Hunter play against 283 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: top flight competition in the Pac twelve, relatively so versus 284 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: what he saw at Jackson State. So he's on my 285 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: list as well, just because star power goes a long 286 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: way for me. 287 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's an intriguing situation. I'm thrilled 288 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: to see what Dion can do. I hope he doesn't 289 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: leave in twenty four. He's not gonna leave in twenty four. 290 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, you think you're brothers twenty. 291 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: Seven if they go five and seven, which would be, 292 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: by the way, a monster improvement from where they were 293 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: last sight, they're horrible season well, especially where the Pac 294 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: twelve is. 295 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: Quarterback wise, so many of these guys are returning, These 296 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: high level guys, Caleb Williams, Bonnix, Michael pennockx Cam Rising, 297 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: especially so it's you know, it's a tough ask, it's 298 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: a climb. Can I go because Travis Hunter was one 299 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: of mine? Can I go to an intriguing player on 300 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: my list? 301 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: I would love nothing more? 302 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: Please, next player is and this is this is a 303 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: whole situation, but specifically because of what his history is 304 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: and where he's going, this might be my number one. Okay, 305 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: Tanner Mordecai to Wisconsin, the Tanner Mordecai because of what 306 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: its spells. Also paired with Phil Longo, the offensive coordinator 307 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: from North Carolina, and what promises to be a much 308 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: more wide open Wisconsin Tanner Mordecai in the system with 309 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: Ratt Lashley before that, Sunny Dike succeeding the way that 310 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: he did throwing for eight hundred and forty four yards 311 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: in a game this year, whatever it was against Houston, 312 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: I U it indicates not your father's wiscamts and yeah, 313 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: it's it's the wow factor. It's I think, a wow factor. 314 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: It's wide open Wisconsin, a literal wow factor. It's a 315 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: wow factor, wide open Wisconsin. Braylan Allen has talked about 316 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: how excited he is not to be running into nine 317 00:15:55,480 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: man boxes, which who can blame him no, and just 318 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: that specific move. I think they also brought in I 319 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: think it's Nick Evers, the younger, former blue chip quarterback 320 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: from Oklahoma, So two former Oklahoma guys and Tanner morta 321 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: guy as well. This is it's hope. Spring's eternal right 322 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: now for Luke Fickle and Wisconsin right now that they're 323 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: saying the right things that like, we're not abandoning, We're 324 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: not becoming, We're not going to throw the ball sixty 325 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: times a game. We still believe very much in the 326 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: identity of Wisconsin in power rushing, but it's modernizing. It's 327 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: marrying to more trendy looks on offense, that stress defense 328 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: is out a little bit more than Wisconsin has these 329 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: past couple of years, and that they actually have pop 330 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: at quarterback, that the quarterback is a threat to go 331 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: downfield all game long. I mean, it opens things up 332 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: for Baylon Allen. It opened things up for the rushing 333 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: game in general. It makes receivers who are otherwise considered 334 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: to be underwhelming perhaps have an ability to play to 335 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: their potential. And Wisconsin and the Big Ten, it's just 336 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: better when Wisconsin is not lurking but is considered to 337 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: be a power program because of their defense, because of 338 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: a very strong offense or a fishing offense more than explosive. 339 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: Tanner Mordecai pushing his chips to the middle of the 340 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: table and saying I want to be that new kind 341 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: of quarterback for Wisconsin. That to me, it rockets them 342 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: to the top of the list of intriguing storylines via 343 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: the portal to Yeah, I mean he's a prolific quarterback. 344 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: He's a prolific quarterback over the last two seasons. About 345 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: seven thousand ish total yards, turtting a lot, seventy two 346 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: touchdowns in two years ain't bad and it's not bad 347 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: at all. And so yeah, if you're Braylen Allen, Brailan 348 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: Allen having that CounterPunch, not having to do at all, 349 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: I would be thrilled tofire him too. I'd be thrilled 350 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: to fire Wisconsin fan. I think just in general, talk 351 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 2: about transfers in how about Luke Fickle being able to 352 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: pry him away from Cincinnati. We always sort of knew 353 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: if he was going to go somewhere, it. 354 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: Would be in the Midwest. I don't know if Wisconsin 355 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: was pretty high up there on the list obviously Ohio State. 356 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: We heard his name come up in conjunction with Notre 357 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: Dame with that job became available for a brief moment 358 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: in time two years ago now. But wow, talk about 359 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: coming in and making a mark, right, If they're able 360 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: to revitalize offense in a serious way, that'd be really exciting. 361 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's also when you have that new coach 362 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: bringing in their own quarterback via the portal. It's ridding 363 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: everybody of baggage, which also can include an incumbent quarterback, 364 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: obviously as we see Graham Mertz transfer to Florida. But 365 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: whatever baggage Tanner Mordecai had at SMU, which seemed to 366 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: be minimal if you're just looking at his success, whatever 367 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: baggage you know Wisconsin's offense had, it's a new guy, 368 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: it's a new quarterback, it's a new coordinator. And so 369 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: Tanner Mordecai doesn't care how down things were in Madison 370 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: on offense. He comes in. He knows what he's capable of. 371 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: Luke Fickel obviously has a good good deal of vision 372 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: of what he wants the Wisconsin offense to be. And 373 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: so there is that, and we've seen it across the 374 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: sport Kayla Williams and Lincoln Riley Boenick and Dan Lanning, 375 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: Michael Penis and Kalin de Borr in the PAC twelve especially, 376 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: But it's all over the sport where portal guy, new coach, 377 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: fresh start for everybody, and I much needed one, probably 378 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: for Graham Mertz as well. So that's why to me 379 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: that that's that shoots to the top of my list. 380 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: Since you mentioned Graham Mertz, let's talk Graham Mertz in Florida, 381 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: baby man, He's on my list. He's on my list. 382 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: In truth, I didn't just make that up since he 383 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: said that's okay. So this is contingent on the assumption 384 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: that I believe we made on the last show, that 385 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: the Jaden Rashata thing goes boom right, and that Jayden 386 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: Reshota they can't get the whatever thirteen million dollar nil 387 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: deal worked out, and he's released from his letter of 388 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: intent and he goes elsewhere. Seems like that's going to happen. 389 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: I you know, we're gonna have to wait and see. 390 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: But provided Rashata goes elsewhere, it would appear here as 391 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: if Graham Mertz is the dude at Florida at time 392 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: of recording, things can change, but Jack Miller the transfer 393 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: did not look good in the bowl game. Now, the 394 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: only other option I believe on the roster is red 395 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: shirt freshman Max Brown, who did not see any action 396 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: at all. So Graham Mertz far and away is going 397 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: to have the most experienced He would, I think, presumably 398 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: be the guy provided them and taking another transfer. There's 399 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: still time, but time of recording is January the eighteenth. 400 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: Graham Mertz would appear as if he could be the 401 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: guy if the Rashata thing falls through, So, you know, 402 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: barring the transfer in from someone like Tyler Buckner, who 403 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: probably is going to be looking for work elsewhere Florida. 404 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: Florida's in a weird spot. They're kind of in no 405 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: man's land right now because it's getting late early. They're 406 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: dally dallion around trying to figure out the Rashata situation. 407 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: But in a sense that has prevented them maybe from 408 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: doing other deals if you will, in the transfer portal 409 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: to try and bring somebody else in to help their 410 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks spot. Obviously they want jaye reshot up, but if 411 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: Limbo prevents that from happening, here we are with Graham 412 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: Mertz former Wisconsin starter at the Helm look no further 413 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: than what happened recently now with Walker Howard. As he 414 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: mentioned at the top of the show, he decides he's 415 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: going to transfer from LSU. I think immediately upon that 416 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: news getting out, there are a lot of folks on 417 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: the Internet to say, oh, Florida makes sense. Florida is 418 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: not where he's going. He's going to Old miss So 419 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: I believe Graham Mertz at this point in time is 420 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: probably the guy that we should be looking at for Florida. 421 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: I also believe that Graham Mertz was at some point 422 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: the highest rated high school quarterback to ever sign with Wisconsin. 423 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: And I also believe to the with every fiber of 424 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: my being, to the core of my soul, that there 425 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: is still a lot of potential in Graham Mertz. The 426 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: problem with that line of thinking, though, is that we've 427 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: had a lot of it doesn't exist in reality data. Yeah, 428 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: we've had a lot of data. To the contrary, we've 429 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: seen it happen before where you're a highly touted quarterback, 430 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: you end up on a bad team, you still find 431 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: a way to transcend some of the stuff around you. Right, 432 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: maybe you don't have a good line or good receivers coordinator, coordinator, coach. 433 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: We've still seen guys in that situation, highly touted quarterbacks 434 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: out of high school go into a bad spot and 435 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: find a way to transcend it all and succeed. And 436 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: maybe they go elsewhere in the transfer portal, maybe they 437 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: end up being drafted higher than you'd expect in the NFL. 438 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: But we've seen that play before. Sure, we haven't seen 439 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: that Graham Mertz. We haven't seen that quote unquote it 440 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: factor with Graham Mertz that to transcend what I would 441 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: say is a bad quarterback situation, or has been a 442 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: bad quarterback situation at Wisconsin, a situation that has not 443 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: necessarily given him the tools that he needs to further develop. 444 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: We have not seen him kind of rise above that. 445 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: And so for that reason, very skeptical on what Graham 446 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: Mertz looks like in a different uniform, in a different spot, 447 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: in a different system. I don't know if it matters 448 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: all that much, but it is intriguing, to say the least, 449 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: because if he's the guy we're gonna we're gonna get 450 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: to find out the answer to that question. 451 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: So technically speaking, I can't disagree with an opinion of yours. Right, 452 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: it's your opinion, it's not a fact. Your opinion is 453 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 2: that Graham Mertz is intriguing at Florida. 454 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: He's intriguing at Florida for a couple of reasons. First Off, 455 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: we get to see what he can do in a different system. Secondly, 456 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: the fact that Florida couldn't get anybody better than Graham Mertz. 457 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: Maybe jayde Rashatta was that guy. But if they're still 458 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: unable at this point, seven months from now to have 459 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: a better option than Graham Mertz and the roster, that's 460 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: intriguing from a Florida low key nightmare standpoint. 461 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, maybe you maybe I should 462 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 2: interpret your use of Graham Mertz here. Who I don't know, 463 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: he shouldn't be catching straight like he's trying his best, 464 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 2: we presume, sure, But I think the intrigue is is 465 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: BILLI Napier going to be at two and done at 466 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: Florida three and done? That it's intriguing in that Florida 467 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: might be not just plateauing or kind of going slowly downward, 468 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: but collapsing careening, and Graham Artz might be an indication 469 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 2: of that. Because high school ranking is just a projection. 470 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: We see his size, we see his ability in high school, 471 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: we see his arm strength, we see his athleticism. This 472 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: is how we project him, and he was projected as 473 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: a very high level college quarterback. We've seen him not perform. 474 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 2: And it's not just the coordinator, it's not just the line, 475 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: it's not just the receivers. We've seen him miss passes 476 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: and miss reads. And so I am not at all 477 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: intrigued and likely to watch Florida more than I would 478 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: against any other you know, more than with any other quarterback. 479 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: Graham Hearts would be near the bottom of my intrigue transfit. Yeah, 480 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 2: I'm very intrigued. 481 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: And maybe it's because what it says about Billy Napier 482 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: and floor as opposed to Gramner, Grammertz or the offensive 483 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: system that he's going to play in in Gainesville. I 484 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: just remember when he was recruited. I remember it was 485 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: a big deal that Wisconsin would get him. I remember 486 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: at the time, I believe the comp was Brandon Whedon. 487 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: Brandon Whiedon was the comp that some of the recruiting 488 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: guys made to Uh to Graham Mertz. So they saw 489 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: a prolific passer we haven't seen a prolific passer. Certainly, 490 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: if you can get a prolific passer at Florida, that 491 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: would be better than not. 492 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: But look at you with that take. Good quarterbacks are 493 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: better than that. Quarterbacks. Tie hold on, let me write. 494 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: That's why, that's why they did. 495 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: Right. What's today's date, the eighteenth of January. Tie is 496 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: on the record, folks. 497 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: That's that's a fair that's a fair goof by you. 498 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. 499 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 500 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: But I don't know. It's like I kind of feel similarly. 501 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: Maybe I can go to my next one here too, please. 502 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: I feel I feel similarly with the Florida situation as 503 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: I do the Arizona State situation, and I just I 504 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: find myself scratching my head and wondering, why can't they 505 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: get anybody better? Yeah, Now, the Florida thing is obviously 506 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: different from the Arizona State situation because Arizona State's got 507 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: a new coach and he's coming in and he's rebuilding 508 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: the things from the stud and studs in the Arizona 509 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: State situation, I think was far more dire than the 510 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: Florida one. 511 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: Florida, and you have the NCAA looming yeah, yeah, so's 512 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: it's it's different. 513 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: It's not the same. But Drew Pine Drew Pine as 514 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: the guy when. 515 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: See I really looked at the word intriguing as a 516 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: positive word in my case study. Okay, well it is. 517 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: I mean it could be, it could be a good thing. 518 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's it's intriguing to me because I. 519 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: Wonder, why couldn't they get anybody better? Yeah, why couldn't 520 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: you any. 521 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: You've made yourself a sicko list is what you've done. No, 522 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: not entirely, not entirely. You are steered in that direction. 523 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: It's okay, keep going. 524 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: But Arizona, I stated, twenty four guys transfer out. I 525 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: believe right now at time of recording, again, it could change. 526 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: Maybe Tyler Buckner goes out there and Drew Pine's got 527 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: to deal with that again. I don't know. Yeah, but 528 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: at time of recording, it looks like it's Drew Pine 529 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: and Jacob Conover as the two names to watch for 530 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback position the BYU transfer. I don't blame 531 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: Drew Pine at all. If anything, I credit him for 532 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: finding the clearest path, the playing time among and maybe 533 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: the best weather among all FBS. Opportunities that were out 534 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: there for him. He may be built like a podcaster, 535 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: but he's a lot smarter than me. Okay, a lot 536 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: smarter than me. But if the name of this game 537 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: is intrigued, and we can debate what that means, this 538 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: is intriguing. If Kenny Dillingham is able to get more 539 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: blood from the stone that is Drew Pine, he's the 540 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: next coach at Alabama, all right. 541 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: If he's able to figure this riddle out in a 542 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: way that nobody was able to figure the riddle out 543 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: at Notre. 544 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: Dame, then he is worth his weight in gold. But 545 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: the fact that at time of recording he has not 546 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: gotten anybody better than Drew Pine and Jacob Connover. If 547 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: Drew Pine is put into a situation where he does 548 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: not have Michael Maher, where we get a fully untethered 549 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: Drew Pine, that to me is intriguing. Maybe a little 550 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: bit of a sicko thing going in there, so sick, 551 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: it's a little bit sick. 552 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: Of You're doubling up with Graham Mertz and Drew Pine 553 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: the Taco Bell Pizza Hut combination. 554 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: Is that intriguing? Is that not intriguing? Intrigue? 555 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: It's not intriguing. It's intriguing to me means it's peaking 556 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 2: my curiosity in a way that the situation otherwise wouldn't. 557 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: All right that I am not likely to watch Arizona 558 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: State or Florida more than I was in November looking 559 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: forward to the twenty twenty three season. 560 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: Let me let me give you a different one, then 561 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: tell me if this one's better. The combination of Dominic 562 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: Lovick and raw Ra Thomas going to Georgia. 563 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: That's good. Well, by the way, I don't know if 564 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: you have the breaking news sound and it's not officially 565 00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: breaking news, and maybe somebody can confirm breaking new. Yeah, 566 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of Ady Mitchell smoke and 567 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 2: leaving Georgia, but potentially for Texas or USC well. 568 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: In the build up to the playoff, you and I 569 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: talked a lot about Georgia's passing game outside of brock Bowers. 570 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: Because lad McConkie was hurt, we didn't know what his 571 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: status would be. Ady Mitchell, Adie Mitchell was out from 572 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: Week two, came back momentarily in the playoffs, caught a 573 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: touchdown in the championship, but we didn't know where things 574 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: stood in the passing game outside of brock Bowers, we 575 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: weren't truly concerned to be fair, but we are tasked 576 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: with putting this microphone in front of us and coming 577 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: up with talking points and sometimes splitting hairs. And that's 578 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: what we did. Stetson Bennett through for three hundred and 579 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: fifty one yards a game in two playoff games. He 580 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: was fine. The passing game was fine. Yeah, I agree, 581 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: all right, But now consider the landscape going into twenty 582 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: three here, Stetson Bennett presumably will gone, will be gone. 583 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: We'll not be back for like an eighteenth year. Yeah, 584 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: And I wonder if we see any kind of shift 585 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: in the offense as a result of it. Remember when 586 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: Todd Monkin came to town, the implication was that George 587 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: is going to run more vertical stuff. By the way, 588 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: it could could be a matter of is Todd Munkin 589 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: going to be the one running the offense in Athens 590 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: because he's got a lot of interest on both the 591 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: college and pro level. I know we could only go 592 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: with what we've got right now, totally, and at again 593 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: time of recording, I feel like I'm qualifying a lot 594 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: of these Todd Mounkin is still there. When he came 595 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: to town, the thought was that he's gonna he's gonna 596 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: run more of a stretch offense. He's going to vomit 597 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: more down the field. They're going to get more vertical 598 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: because before he got there, they weren't doing that. And 599 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: that was part of why getting JT. Daniels was such 600 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: a big deal at the time, because he had a 601 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: better arm, came from USC. It seems like he's the 602 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: heir apparent. Remember who was the guy he was competing 603 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,239 Speaker 1: with from Wake Forest. I can't think of his name now, 604 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: Ja Jamie Newman, right, Jamie, yeah, right, It was those 605 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: two guys. It was going to be one of those 606 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: two guys that was going to be running this offense 607 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: for Todd Bunkin. They ended up getting Stetson Bennett. Stetson 608 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: Bennett worked. They won two national championships with him. They 609 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: didn't run the offense maybe the way that they thought 610 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: they would under Todd Monkin, but they were adaptable and 611 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: they were successful, and that's really all that matters in 612 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: this thing. 613 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: So talking about these receivers and why they're scratching you 614 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: white where where you itch, whether it's Brock Vandergriff, Carson 615 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: Beck whoever. 616 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's Carson Beck. I think he's got 617 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: a bigger arm. And I think Georgia knew going into 618 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: this offseason that they need more amo out wide to 619 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: run this system. And suddenly they go really deep. They 620 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: go like five deep at wide Receiver Dominic Lovett was 621 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: the leading receiver for MISSOO. He had over fifteen yards 622 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: a catch, so he was a deeper threat. Raw Raw 623 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: Thomas for Mississippi State also over fourteen yards a catch, 624 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: their leading receiver. So and keep in mind this is 625 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: an offense at Mississippi State that wasn't really known for 626 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: bombit it down the field. There's a lot of shorter 627 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: underneath stuff, but Raw Raw was their guy for anything deep. 628 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: He was very good, very good after the catch as well. 629 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: You add in these guys with Brock Bauers, who's going 630 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: to be back with Lad McCaughey, who I'd only assume 631 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: is going to be back with Ady Mitchell, who could 632 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: be back with Arian Smith, who I think is still 633 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: going to be back. If Georgia wants to go full 634 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: Monkin with this offense and really try try and live 635 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: that dream that they put before us. A couple of 636 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: years ago. They've got the AMMO to do it, they've 637 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: got the arm and Carson Becker whoever at quarterback, and 638 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: they've also got now the talent out wide to go 639 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: five wide every play if they want to. So I'm 640 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: curious on a couple different levels. First off, the guys 641 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: they brought in are great, and I think they'll make 642 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: an instant impact. But I think it's more intriguing to 643 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: me because of the ramifications it could have for the offense. 644 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: And do we see a shift away from more of 645 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: this ground and pound and we're going to have eleven 646 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: possessions a game and just sort of bleed you out. 647 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: Do they go to more of an aerial assault now 648 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: that they've got more receivers and quarterback with a better 649 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: arm to do it? 650 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: Could be? Could be. I think a lot of teams, 651 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 2: especially that recruit on the level of you know, the 652 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: top five to ten teams in the country, they're perpetually 653 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: looking at what Bama did in nineteen twenty twenty one 654 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: LSU twenty nineteen, where you go three four deep at 655 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: killer Winter Wonder type receivers and you get to a 656 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: point on offense where it's a pick your poison and 657 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: up you're gonna lose by three touchdowns every week. And 658 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: so Georgia hasn't reached that point yet obviously, Brock Bauers 659 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: and you know, Darnell Washington's moving on to the NFL. 660 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 2: But they reached that point with certain guys at certain 661 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: times when they were healthy where somebody gets open, and 662 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: Kenny McIntosh was very good as an all purpose player, 663 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: but they weren't justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase on the 664 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: same receiving corps, right, they haven't found that combination of 665 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: guys at the same time at the same experience level 666 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: that LSU had, and you're talking about an all time 667 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: receiving corps. But Georgia played them in the SEC championship game. 668 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 2: They saw firsthand. This is not that long ago. So 669 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: Kirby has done this. Obviously, they lose Jermaine Burton last 670 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,239 Speaker 2: year in the portal and so receiver has been that 671 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 2: place that they haven't fully developed killers under Kirby. Everywhere 672 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: else they've you know, blue chip offensive lineman. Quarterback has 673 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: been very good with Stetson Bennett there before that hit 674 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: or miss. Running backs have been very good obviously all 675 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: over the defense is very good receiver. Health experience production 676 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 2: has not consistently been there. And if Ady Mitchell wasn't 677 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: even's beat up all last year, he comes in, has 678 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 2: a couple catches during the playoffs that were enormous, but 679 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 2: they're still searching for that next step on offense. And 680 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a Todd Munkin wants to 681 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: play in a different way, but to have the option 682 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: to play in that. 683 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: Way, to have the option, yeah, to have the option. 684 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: You know, they were so good at what they did 685 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: the last two seasons and you know, to some people 686 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: that have written into the show as boring, boring offense, 687 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: but it's where it works. They want to national championships. 688 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: So I don't know if there is any desire to 689 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: get away from that, But I think the your point 690 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: is that if they want to, they can't. They can 691 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: maybe spread this thing out a little bit more and 692 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: hopefully rely on some of these weapons they will have 693 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: at worst bodies bodies, bodies, bodies guys that they can 694 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: try to develop. 695 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: L Yeah, Okay, I'm going to stick with your theme 696 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 2: of a receiving duo that's intriguing, and I'm going to 697 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: go with a receiving duo at a school that has 698 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: had far less success in the passing game than a 699 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: lot of the top tier programs we just mentioned. That's UCLF. 700 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 2: UCLA brings in if it's not a top three, it's 701 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 2: a top five receiving duo in the portal this this 702 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: cycle with Michael Sturtevant from Cal, the freshman who had 703 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 2: a breakout year and a largely non offense Cal offense, 704 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: and Kyle Ford, who transfers in Crosstown from USC, former 705 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: blue chip receiver himself. So what UCLA has had in 706 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: these last few years on offense at receiver has been 707 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: largely not a lot special. Greg Dulsich was very good 708 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 2: as a tight end. Kyle Phillips flashed here and there, 709 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: but wasn't a true top tier number one receiver for 710 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: UCLA in the way that some other guys were in 711 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: the Pac twelve. With Kyle Ford and Michael Sturtavant adding 712 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 2: to a UCLA offense, and ucl is going to take 713 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: a step back this year. Zax Sharbonne announced for the 714 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 2: draft I think yesterday or the day before. I think 715 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: it's Colin Shlee. Colin Shelee from his state, and you 716 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 2: have to say his name like that Chile. The Kent 717 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 2: State transfer was very productive for the Golden Flashes of 718 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 2: Kent State. But having weapons like that with what we 719 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: presume will be another good rushing attack, maybe not great. 720 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: But this has been a top ten offense nationally without 721 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: top flight receivers and adding instead Event and Kyle Ford 722 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: when he's healthy is very, very good for the UCLA 723 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: bottom line. It's still a question of defense. UCLA is 724 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: probably hitting the mac a little bit more often than 725 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: i'd hope for what was a top ten team at 726 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 2: a certain point this year favorite transfers, but I also 727 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: one of my favorite words discussing coaches, his vision and 728 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 2: Chip Kelly's vision is yeah, we're hitting the portal really 729 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 2: hard every year because I'd rather talk to guys that 730 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 2: I've seen succeed in college than guess on high school kids. 731 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 2: And so that's UCLA's thing. And if they can get 732 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: him into school, all the better, setting things up for 733 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 2: Dante more. If he's not starting this year, he will 734 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 2: be next year for UCLA. And to add to that, 735 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: receiving core through the portal I think has been a 736 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 2: coup a steal for Chip Kelly and UCLA, and I 737 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 2: think it makes them again top ten offense these past 738 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 2: couple of years and they're winning eight nine games. It 739 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 2: to me, though, is in terms of next level, next 740 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 2: step gravity, those two adding to UCLA in a conference 741 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 2: And we've talked about this before with the number of 742 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 2: returning quarterbacks, UCLA's is not back in DTR, but I 743 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: think it goes a long way to bring UCLA back 744 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 2: to at least the range of USC Oregon, Utah, Washington, 745 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 2: two of which which I think UCLA beat you dub 746 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 2: and Utah. Is that correct if you look at their schedule? Yeah, 747 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: so we know the capability is there. That's how they 748 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: ended up a top ten team. So to bounce back 749 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 2: and to have that kind of firepower out wide is 750 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: one thousand percent new for Chip Kelly and UCLA. 751 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's intriguing, really good offense to say the least, 752 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: needed some explosiveness in the passing game though. Yeah, this 753 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily a big play passing offense, and so yeah, 754 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of I don't know, very ability, I 755 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: keep using that word. But you bring in some options 756 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: out why that can help you with that and proven 757 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: options by proven options, Yeah that helps. 758 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. So am. I am thoroughly intrigued by UCLA. What's 759 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: next on your list? Give me another one? 760 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: I did two in a row, You did. 761 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: Two in a row. All right, I'm gonna steal one 762 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: from you. About that, I already know I'm stealing it 763 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 2: from you. Yeah, I'm taking Sam Hartman, Sam a man, 764 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: Sam Hartman, and my man in Caleb Smith as well. 765 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 2: By the way, Notre Dame with two Caleb Smith? Is 766 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 2: that correct? Then? 767 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: Confusing at all? 768 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 2: They have an incoming three star receiver Caleb Smith, and 769 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: they have Virginia Tech's leading receiver Caleb Smith, a big 770 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: body receiver who led the Hokies in receiving last year. 771 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: He's a grad transfer. 772 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: I believe not to be confused with baseball pitcher Caleb Smith, 773 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: who I believe. 774 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 2: Really there's a baseball Caleb Smith. 775 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: Well there was. Oh he was sort of a middle 776 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: of the road pitcher. 777 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 2: Continue, look Notre Dame's been when they have Ian Book. 778 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 2: Ian Book's very good, He's not his ceiling wasn't excellent 779 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: to me, but very very good. He's the best modern 780 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: Notre Dame quarterback. They take a couple steps back to 781 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 2: say the least, these past couple of seasons, but bringing 782 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 2: in a good Sam Hartman, who is going to be 783 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 2: in less of a and I don't say gimmick in 784 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 2: a negative term, but it's just a very specific system 785 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 2: that Wake Forest was running with the slow mesh behind 786 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 2: a better offensive line and now with Caleb Smith and 787 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 2: I think they have a promising young tight end. 788 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: They do it. Tight End's not an issue Titan's issue. 789 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: The issue is wide out for Notre. 790 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 2: So it's Bradon Lensay's gone. I believe Lorenzo styles kind of. 791 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't get the ball that much, but 792 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 2: dropsis were somewhat of an issue for him. 793 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the receiver's situation as a whole for 794 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: Notre Dame is very intriguing. I have Sam Hartman on 795 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: my list too. You knew I would, Hey, yeah, of course. 796 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 2: So Notre Dame is that team though, because of how 797 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 2: good their defense seems to be year over year, and 798 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 2: you can speak more to that, because we believe the 799 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 2: offensive line is going to continue to improve with Harry's 800 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 2: HySTAT the new old offensive line coach, having an older 801 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: quarterback and Sam Hartman plug and play White Club service 802 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 2: and what we believe to be a good receiver in 803 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 2: Caleb Smith too. We can immediately come in and be 804 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 2: a steadying force out wide. If Sam Hartman, the question 805 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 2: to me is the picks. We saw a couple of 806 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 2: games this year like where is he even looking right? 807 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 2: Where he can single handedly lose a game in a 808 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: quarter if you can avoid that with more time and 809 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 2: he had good receivers Atwake, with more time, with more stability, 810 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 2: without needing to score forty eight points a game, because 811 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 2: they'll have a better defense than Notre Dame. Notre dame 812 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 2: ceiling is you know, playoff this year? 813 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the big thing for Notre Dame is 814 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 1: going to be the line. This is why, above all else, 815 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: it's a good situation for Sam Hartman. You could make 816 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: a pretty good strong case that this is one of 817 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: the better lines in the country. They've got Joe all 818 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: Blake Fisher on the tackles, they lose both their guards, 819 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: but I think by and large this will end up 820 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: being one of the better lines in the country. The 821 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: running game won't be in a bad place at all, 822 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: if only because they spend all season trying to run 823 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: the damn ball. Now they have an influx, a surge, 824 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: a stable of running backs. There aren't enough running back well, 825 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: excuse me, there are too many running backs. There aren't 826 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: enough footballs for this coming season. So Notre Dame's in 827 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: pre good spot. As for that, the question is, as 828 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: you alluded, I mean, the question is receiver. They didn't 829 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: see a step forward from Lorenzo Styles this season. I 830 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 1: was hoping we would. But you can probably understand on 831 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: some level why Jane Thomas, the big, big number eighty three, 832 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: as you've called him yep time and again in our show. 833 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: I thought he had a nice season, but you know 834 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: how he fits in is tbd to. 835 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 2: Buy it, but it's also it's also not to cut 836 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: you off because I'm going to cut you off. We 837 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 2: don't know how good their receivers are. No, if it's 838 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 2: a Tyler Buckner Drew Pine team, we don't know how 839 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 2: good Notre dames receivers and tight ends are. Besides Michael Mayer, 840 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 2: obviously we knew he was very good. So Sam Harton, 841 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 2: Sam Hartman is the tide that raises all ships. 842 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: I believe so, yeah, I believe so, and I'm pretty 843 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: excited to see what he looks like. Tobias Meriweather just 844 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: another one that I want to throw out there. I 845 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: don't think we saw enough out of him. He got 846 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: like one catch this year, but I would like to 847 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: see more out of him. I think he could perhaps 848 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: provide a little bit more pop from that receiving core. 849 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: It almost to me sounds like Caleb Smith might be 850 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 2: more intriguing to you than Sam Hartman. So we know what, 851 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 2: Sam Hartman. 852 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no no no no, okay no no, 853 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: it isn't okay you kidding me. After years of Ian Book, 854 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: the brief stay with Tyler Buckner and Drew Pine, now 855 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: Sam Hartman is the answer for me. Sam Hartman is 856 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 1: the answer for me. And Sam Hartman in his time 857 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: at wake Forest has made receivers better. He has made 858 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 1: receivers better. There are options at receiver for Notre Dame. 859 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: I think they've recruited fairly well, at least enough guys 860 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: at wide receiver that they're going to have options. It's 861 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: just a matter of who's Who's the dude gonna be 862 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,479 Speaker 1: all right? Who? Who are going to be those names 863 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: that really rise to see. 864 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,919 Speaker 2: If I were to tell you Sam Hartman is going 865 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 2: to be Ian Book, you'd be pretty happy. Even though 866 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 2: Ian Book drove you nuts because of the it's all 867 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 2: relative after the past couple of years. 868 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would take that. I would take that. But 869 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: Sam hart and just gives them so much of a 870 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: proven option at quarterback that it's hard not to be excited. 871 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: It's hard not to envision the ceiling that is much 872 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: higher than you in book. 873 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 2: How many do you have left? I've got one, I've 874 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 2: got two left. All right, I have three left. We 875 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 2: should probably start buzzing through these relatively quickly. 876 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I've got dj Uiuclele. Do you have him? 877 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 2: I do not. 878 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 1: We called out Oregon State months ago as a trendy 879 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: landing spot. DJU makes a lot of sense for Oregon State. 880 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: I believe he will have a decent receiving core to 881 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: work with. You probably know better than I. A bit 882 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,399 Speaker 1: undersized Silos Bold and Anthony Gould both being five to eight, 883 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: but they have some experience. They are adding some guys 884 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: via the incoming class as well. There are some other 885 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: names on the roster that could see a better workload 886 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: here as well. But I think it's fair to question 887 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: the pass catchers. M hmm, if only because part of 888 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,479 Speaker 1: the problem that Clemson for DJU was guys not getting open. 889 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't all on DJU. Some of it was, some 890 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: of it was on the system, but it's been an 891 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: ongoing trend there where guys just they don't get open. So, 892 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what that looks like from 893 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 1: that standpoint on the Oregon State side, but there's a 894 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: ton of reason for optimism here, especially with the way 895 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 1: their defense overperformed this season. There's there is this rising 896 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: sense that Oregon states a few good players away on 897 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: offense from really making things interesting for opponents in the 898 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: Pact Wolves. So I think DJU is a is a 899 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 1: no brainer answer here in terms of intrigue. 900 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you look at what Jonathan Smith has 901 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 2: done with quarterbacks without you know, a ton of physical 902 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 2: talent that if you want all of the talents squeezed 903 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 2: out of you, there are worst coaches to be developed 904 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 2: by than Jonathan Smith. 905 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so I think DJU is an easy answer. Yeah, 906 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: another one quick, please, let's talk about Auburn's offensive line 907 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: transfers stacking it. 908 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 909 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is a position group that needed a 910 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: lot of work. They have not recruited well along the line, 911 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: which is strange because the sec is a line league. 912 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: It's a line league. You don't have a good line, 913 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: you're dead. You're dead. And they have not done enough 914 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: there to keep up with the depth that you need. 915 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: They just haven't. So the cracks have been shown for 916 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: a while. It really showed this season. The line stats 917 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: were bad. I don't know if you looked at those. 918 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: Line stats were really bad for Auburn. They gave up 919 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: a ton of pressure this season. Part of that was 920 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback, but part of that, which is the line, 921 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: wasn't good. So they've been really aggressive here. Hugh Freeze 922 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: came in. They've got Avery Jones from ECU and interior 923 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: lineman Dylan Wade from Tulsa, gun Or Britten from Western Kentucky. 924 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: Three guys that should be starters right away, should be 925 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: plug and play. I'm curious to see how good they 926 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: can get, how quickly they can get there, because this 927 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: is a position group where they'll just take anybody with experience. 928 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: So barring a transfer elsewhere, it's probably still Robbie Ashford, 929 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: I believe at quarterback. 930 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, who are they protecting though, I 931 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 2: think it's Robby So that's not a great situation. 932 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 1: Although Robbie Ashford had moments and maybe with a better 933 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: coach he can he can succeed. I don't know if 934 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: you Freeze is that better coach. We'll find out in 935 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: due time. Nonetheless, I am feeling positively about the quick 936 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: work that Auburn has done in the portal on the line. 937 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 2: So those are your final two. You and the Auburn line. 938 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: Who do you got? 939 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 2: All right? I'm gonna use my whole is your nose? Okay? 940 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 2: By the way, I think I sound really stuffed up 941 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, don't I really stuffed up? 942 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 1: They got the sniffles over there? 943 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 2: Yep? 944 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: We might have to take in a transfer podcast host 945 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: before the end. 946 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 2: That's true. Oh my god, people would be thrilled. I'm 947 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 2: gonna go with my Homer coin here. I'm gonna go 948 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 2: Jordan Birch and Justin Jacobs sort of linebackers edge type guys, 949 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 2: Oregon defensive transfers. Right, Yes, Oregon had an offense that 950 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 2: was good enough to go eleven in one last year. 951 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 2: They were not going to beat Georgia. No matter how 952 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 2: good Bonnicks could have been in that game. He wasn't 953 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 2: that great, But defensively that was the huge liability. That's 954 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 2: what the direct causation for the losses last year, even 955 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 2: with Bownicks hobbled, it was not being able to stop 956 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 2: anything on the ground against Oregon State even with a 957 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 2: twenty one point lead, and then giving up the bigger 958 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 2: passes and not being able to generate a pass rush 959 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 2: all season long. Caveon Timbaugh obviously makes his way to 960 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 2: the NFL. They were not able to get to the quarterback. 961 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 2: So Jordan Birch, former five stars South Carolina, showed flashes, 962 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 2: but was not the consistent star I don't think. I 963 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 2: think South Carolina fans would probably agree was not the 964 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 2: consistent star that his high school promise projected him to be. 965 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:50,720 Speaker 2: I suppose, but crazy athletics side speeds side speeds side 966 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 2: spis size speed combination that is extremely rare. So if 967 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: he is able to pop in Dan Lanning system on 968 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 2: the edge, get a little bit better against the run, 969 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 2: and then Justin Jacobs was like going to be the 970 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 2: next big thing at linebacker for Iowa. He gets hurt 971 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 2: last year and doesn't see the field much after the 972 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 2: first couple of games. I think it's an immediate upgrade 973 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 2: for linebacker and the edge. For an Oregon team that's 974 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 2: still pretty thin at defensive back, if they can get 975 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 2: after the quarterback, that solves a lot of issues. Doesn't 976 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 2: matter where your cornerbacks and safeties are in terms of 977 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 2: talent and production, if the quarterback is always under fire 978 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 2: and so, that to me is an enormous missing duo 979 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 2: that Oregon sorely needed and succeeded in getting this cycle. 980 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 2: So there's that. 981 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. 982 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,919 Speaker 2: I have Dessan McCullough for much of the same reason 983 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 2: for Oklahoma. Okay, so transfers in former Ohio state commit 984 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 2: transfers in from Indiana where his dad was a coach, 985 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 2: and now I think he's at Notre Dame. He's the 986 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 2: new running backs coach, and so he was. He's another size, 987 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 2: speed guy that if he is more of a terror 988 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 2: off the edge and is able to fulfill some of 989 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 2: his recruiting promise and physical promise. Oklahoma I think was 990 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 2: one of the worst teams in the nation in terms 991 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 2: of actually getting to the quarterback. I think their sack 992 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 2: rates and their passing down sack rate was extremely poor, 993 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,720 Speaker 2: and so we saw quarterbacks run wild, no pass wild. 994 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 2: You know, would you go back to the TCU game, 995 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 2: the Texas game, and then finishing with the Texas Tech game. 996 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 2: If Oklahoma can do a better job getting to the quarterback, 997 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 2: Desaun McCallum might be a major reason why. And so 998 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 2: he was one of the bigger portal names to come in. 999 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 2: And then finally I have do Cypress Ventral Cypress for 1000 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,439 Speaker 2: Florida State, a team that you were maybe a year 1001 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 2: early on. They had a couple of games that they blew, 1002 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 2: otherwise they looked very strong and played Oklahoma in the 1003 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 2: bowl game. Florida State should be really good on defense. 1004 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 2: We've talked about Jared Verse coming back being a major, 1005 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 2: major deal for Florida State, but a huge reason why 1006 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 2: Virginia's defense took an enormous step forward last year was 1007 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 2: their ability to stop big plays, especially passes. I think 1008 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 2: Do Cyprus's QBR against according to Sbplus was something like seventeen. 1009 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 2: And so when you are able to add to what 1010 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 2: should be an already good corner and defensive back room, 1011 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 2: I know they lose their big safety, but I just 1012 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 2: think it's a no brainer when you have Florida State, 1013 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 2: when you have the quarterback carousel that's going in the 1014 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 2: ACC and still having a roster of really solid, if 1015 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 2: not very good quarterbacks in the ACC Florida State getting 1016 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,879 Speaker 2: even stronger on defense as they try to make that 1017 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 2: New Year's six ish move. I think it's enormous. So 1018 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 2: that's where I went with how I interpreted the word intriguing, 1019 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 2: just because I am more likely to watch all of 1020 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 2: these teams because of those transfers. Now I'll watch a 1021 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 2: little bit of as in Florida just to either confirm 1022 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 2: or be wrong about where I think their programs are heading. 1023 00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 2: But no, those players on my list get my tingling 1024 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,240 Speaker 2: behind the airs. 1025 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of ASU and Florida, yeah, we should call 1026 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: out and I'm just looking at this now for. 1027 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 2: Taco Bell Pizza Hut, they should join forces with their 1028 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 2: thin rosters. 1029 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at twenty four to seven Sports right now, 1030 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: and they posted something about possible destinations for Jade and 1031 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: Rashata should he decide to leave Florida, which it sounds 1032 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: like that's near a four going. 1033 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 2: He officially for his release. 1034 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, Arizona State is a program that they predict could 1035 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 1: be in need of services at quarterback for many of 1036 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: the reasons I think I highlighted before. Got to do 1037 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: better than Drew Pine. 1038 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 2: Or Oregon Recruitedshata with Kenny Dillingham Oregon connection there, Yeah, 1039 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 2: there's that connection. Cal cals Area is an interesting name. 1040 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: They were among the first to offer Jade and Rashada 1041 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 1: and Washington is another one. 1042 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 2: That visited Washington and they lost their quarterback commit to 1043 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 2: Ohio State from I think South Dakota. Lincoln kleinholds if 1044 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:04,760 Speaker 2: I client something like that. So yeah, all intriguing. Michigan. 1045 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 2: I don't believe took a quarterback and seems to be 1046 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 2: spending on the nil front. They did not take a 1047 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 2: quarterback in this class. I think they're in for a 1048 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 2: top tier twenty twenty four kid. So who knows. There 1049 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 2: are a number of schools that I'm sure can can 1050 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,479 Speaker 2: dig into the couch cushions to find something for Jaden 1051 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 2: and Rashata, not the least of which would be an 1052 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 2: open spot on the depth chart. 1053 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: We shall see right in. Let us know, cross all 1054 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: social media, which transfer situations you find intriguing. Let us 1055 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: know what intriguing means to you. Yeah, are you gonna 1056 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: go Graham Mertz with this? You're gonna go Jayden Rashata 1057 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 1: with this? You're gonna go. I don't know Dan's interpretation 1058 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: of this. 1059 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 2: Thessan McCullough for Oklahoma. 1060 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Sam Hartman whatever. 1061 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 2: We're both intrigued by Sam Harmon both and Caleb Smith. 1062 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,720 Speaker 1: Sam Harmon a great beard by the way, great beard. 1063 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 2: Who is the last? Who is the Chase Claypool is 1064 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 2: the last? Like? Oh, he's a clear number one college 1065 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 2: football receiver. 1066 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're over selling Caleb Smith a 1067 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: little bit. He's a good player, but let's not He's 1068 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:12,919 Speaker 1: not Chase Claype. 1069 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm all in. I'm all in cab with a K. Well, 1070 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 2: you think about receivers, and we've seen this all over 1071 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 2: the sport, receivers who are stuck in offenses and in 1072 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 2: such little control over their destiny, over their production, over 1073 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 2: their involvement on a big stage or medium or small stage. 1074 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 2: And with where Virginia texts offense has been these last 1075 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 2: couple of years, he qualifies, Sure. 1076 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: I just I don't know, I'm ready, all right. 1077 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 2: I'm hopeful, right, yeah, But that's it. 1078 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,720 Speaker 1: All right? That does it for today's show. We hope 1079 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: everybody has a good weekend. We'll be back Tuesday. 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