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Speaker 1: Anthony dor Set, de Montree Moore, and new He scrugs.

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Speaker 4: all right, Anthony dor Set for Dallas, Dallas Cowboy legend

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Speaker 4: sondayd played in the league, played for Titans, played for

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Speaker 4: the Raiders. Got Trey Moore, former Dallas Cowboys, Seahawk Patriot, No.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no no no Patriots, forty nine Ers, Panthers, Giants, Cowboys, Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: He already said CFL, we got, we got, we got

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Speaker 2: my trash you for I did forget the Raiders, uh

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. No, I was not at Tampa.

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Speaker 3: So basically he got free chickens.

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Speaker 2: I'm not everywhere league cross.

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Speaker 3: Our Toledo Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the last Toledo Hall of Fame in the building,

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Speaker 5: The Mohican Church, last of the Mohicans.

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Speaker 3: Man, I couldn't believe that. I'm merely knew he struggs.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Matt Erafluce was a also a Toledo Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame. I hate to see it along very church church,

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Speaker 4: last last one employed by the Jones.

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Speaker 6: Family favorite defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: He's not my favorite about I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Mad at you.

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Speaker 2: Man. The numbers.

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Speaker 4: We'll get into the Cowboys since the coordinator a minute.

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Speaker 4: They came out with these awards nominations today. Okay for

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Speaker 4: the NFL, NFL mvs players lound, let's get into players.

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Speaker 3: Drake May finalist for the m v P.

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Speaker 4: The Patriots quarterback playing that earlier.

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Speaker 2: They appreciate. That's so rady to see into the future.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, a car heel on the list. Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 4: Matt Stafford of Highland Park here in town. Is up

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Speaker 4: for Christian McCaffrey of the forty nine Ers, Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: of the Bills, and Trevor Lawrence of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I got to see his numbers. I mean he

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Speaker 5: was playing well for a stretch, but m v P.

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Speaker 6: Caliber he got he got high, he got you know

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Speaker 6: what I'm saying, especially like at that time, you know.

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Speaker 2: Even got time listen listener. Yeah, defense and Liam the

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Speaker 2: coach made them who they are. So like it's just

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Speaker 2: it just sucks in this league that the credit goes

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Speaker 2: to the QB and it's like we've been doing this,

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Speaker 2: Like some of those guys earned it, like Drake may

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Speaker 2: young guy earned it, Matt Stafford earned it. The Yeah

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Speaker 2: Josh Josh Allen. I don't think he should win it,

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Speaker 2: but he earned it more than Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 6: Like, come on, I think I think we're discussed in

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Speaker 6: here though when we said, like there needs to be

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Speaker 6: a quarterback award and then it needs to be an

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Speaker 6: MVP award, all right, so this should be that top

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Speaker 6: quarterback and then it should be that m v P too,

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Speaker 6: because it's turning the MVP has turned into a quarterback

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Speaker 6: to balance that out of it.

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Speaker 4: But don't they say that's the most important position on

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Speaker 4: the team, your quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That if you don't have a quarterback, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, what about what about the guy that sex to

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Speaker 6: And and I think in the context said, depending on

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Speaker 6: teams got quarterbacks. The team will take you. The quarterback

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Speaker 6: will take you to the super Bowl. Some teams have

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Speaker 3: Not to do is lose the Super Bowl. So it

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Speaker 3: depends on you know, the team Seattle.

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Speaker 2: How does Miles Garrett not get on the list? He

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Speaker 3: Whynce off and put that exactly?

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Speaker 2: There's so many more deserving players where you sit here

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Speaker 3: Who wins it? Stafford got that off that list? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Who'd you go off that list? Off of that list?

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Speaker 2: I would say, I would say Drake May But we

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Speaker 4: So you're gonna say legacy a legacy versus give me

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Speaker 6: Looking at it for what it is, I would have

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Speaker 6: I think the Rams had some times when they did

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Speaker 6: end up going that year, but then the next year

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Speaker 6: everybody finally votes for you. So I think Stafford probably

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Speaker 3: He could do no wrong in the eyes of you know,

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Speaker 5: And to me, this is gonna be if he wins

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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame making for Matt Stafford. I mean, two

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Speaker 5: Super Bowls and an MVP. You know, numbers back it up.

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Speaker 5: That's you don't think he was already Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Man, I go back to what he says all the time,

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Speaker 3: can he can you write the stories?

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Speaker 5: Can you write the story of the National Football League

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Speaker 5: But if he wins his Super Bowl, that's too super boil.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's for sure stamp and solidified if

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Speaker 4: Going to be in the conversation and they'll be interested

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Speaker 4: of the Year finalists are out. It is Will Anderson

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Speaker 3: And former Cowboy Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 5: I told you his ball, but like, I mean, how

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Speaker 6: And and and their defense was not the same that's true, not.

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Speaker 2: With them not being the same, even the player of

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Speaker 3: Miss Garrett. Garrett got it. Gary got it.

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Speaker 6: So if we look at it from the standpoint of

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Speaker 6: he got the sack record. But if we're looking at

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Speaker 6: from just the standpoint of making the plays, the impact

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Speaker 2: There and did that. He did it.

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Speaker 6: Now, not to be defensive, Oh no, no, no, no no,

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Speaker 6: But I'm saying, like I mean, he's talking about impact.

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Speaker 3: So who would you vote for off of that?

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Speaker 6: Uh, I'm going Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 2: The whole what's the whole list of who was up

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Speaker 4: Will Anderson of Houston, Nick Benito of Denver, Miles Garrett

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Speaker 2: The Packers, and Miles Garrett. I say it's Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 2: But then the Nick Benito conversation is very interesting, especially

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Speaker 3: Know people want this is voted at the end of

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Speaker 2: So I would say Miles Garrett just because he broke

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Speaker 5: Was Will Anderson even the best pass rusher on his team.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's great, don't get me wrong, but I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and when you got two dudes doing it like that,

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Speaker 4: NFL honors continue here. Offensive Player of the Year finalist

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Speaker 4: Drake May, quarterback of New England, running back Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 3: Pretty good right there. That's tough. That's tough. I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: And just you know, to me, this is between McCaffrey

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Speaker 5: be a tough one, but I'm gonna go in Jigball

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Speaker 2: But it was it was another name on there too,

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Speaker 2: Jeon Jeon for Atlanta. That's a that's a tough list, man,

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Speaker 2: Jig but Dallas Native because what he's been able to do,

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Speaker 2: Like he's up there statistically in every category, and then

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Speaker 2: But then also Christian McCaffrey. He's been doing it consistently,

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Speaker 4: Remember too, Mac Jones had to play a lot the

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Speaker 4: I got run CMC, I can plug and play at quarters.

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Speaker 2: But how much is that Kyle coach Shanahan or how

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Speaker 4: You take an elite coach offensive mine with an elite talent,

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Speaker 4: get take away anything from Christian because he was balling

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Speaker 4: get him an elite guy like like Shanahan. Yes, and

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Speaker 3: Take elait and put a elaite together pole, you got

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Speaker 2: Not going to sland this Sam Like that is a

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Speaker 4: You might be able to wave your flag on Sammy

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Speaker 2: He make me right?

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Speaker 3: So he got a bad rap.

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Speaker 6: A little bit of grace when they get over there

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Speaker 3: Player of the Year.

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Speaker 4: Your finalists Stefan Diggs made some more news today. A

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Speaker 4: These are your Comeback Player of the Year finalists.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, give me that list one more time.

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Speaker 4: Trayvon Diggs, Aydon Hutchinson, Trelor Lawrence, Christian McCaffery.

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Speaker 3: I mean Stephan no not, I'm back. He might he

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Speaker 4: I mean green Bay cut my man after getting one

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, big brother step On. Stephan ons on

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Speaker 3: Portray. Pray for trade guys, Pray for track.

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Speaker 5: Was vicious, But I'm going with the Ivory l t

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Speaker 2: I get this one.

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Speaker 4: Also finalist for the Defensive Player of the Award.

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Speaker 6: I can't think anybody else that came back from such

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Speaker 3: All words. All of them got good stories.

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Speaker 2: Does it matter the severity of the injury at this

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Speaker 3: He's gonna walk away with some get m VP.

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Speaker 6: And no and no discredit to him. He's been angured

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Speaker 2: He might have been on this list before. I think,

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Speaker 4: Dak Dak did consider he got a brand new head coach.

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Speaker 4: The offense put up great numbers. No, you know, they

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Speaker 3: He was for sure going to be that guy.

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Speaker 2: You know who's gonna make that argument for him? And

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Speaker 2: there's no slot to him, but the media, the doll

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, because he didn't win,

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Speaker 2: of the year, who ended on a high note? Aiden

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Speaker 3: Come back play the year. You're going, I'm going McCaffrey

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Speaker 2: If McCaffrey wins, something else I got Aiden. If he

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Speaker 6: Got, I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it to

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna give it to Dak.

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Speaker 3: Okay, real quick, real quick, just no the bad need

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Speaker 3: am here. Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 4: Your finalists Liam Cohen of Jacksonville, Ben Johnson and the Bears,

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Speaker 4: Mike McDonald's Seattle, Kyle Shanahan of the forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 4: Mike Vrabel of the Patriots. Where are you going, Mike McDonald.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's the Seattle, Yeah, Mike, Mike Ben.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Chicago, Okay, all right, man, that's tough.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we got some turnarounds. Can I get the list

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Speaker 4: Liam Cohen and Jacksonville been Johnson Chicago, Mike McDonald's Seattle,

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Speaker 4: Assistant coach of the years.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Listen here, Vic Fangil of Philadelphia, Brian Flores of Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: Vance Joseph of Denver, Clint Kubiak of Seattle, Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 4: of the New England.

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Speaker 3: Patriots, Clint Kubiak, Man, Clint Ubia.

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Speaker 4: Flores tell you what, man, Josh McDaniels, New England.

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Speaker 3: They got to play the game at home.

440
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Speaker 4: I'm not I'm just saying I don't think there's very

441
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Speaker 4: good argument that she'dn't been there. I mean, or Dame

442
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 4: will tell you they should have been that you should

443
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 4: have been so but said, let.

444
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Speaker 3: Me think about it.

445
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 4: The college football playoff today, you don't even play in

446
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 4: your conference championship game.

447
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 6: That's crazy.

448
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 5: They made it run, but they went was it four?

449
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 5: They had to win four games? Or they only they

450
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 5: had to win three and then they get to the Natty.

451
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 5: But still, I mean, that's what I mean.

452
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 4: Look, they went on the road, as Trey can tell you,

453
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: uh in Miami, Wayne. But a lot of people say

454
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 4: they should have been there. A lot of people say.

455
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: That's all they played.

456
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 6: They played like they belonged to be there, though, and

457
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 6: that end of the day, and they did. They did

458
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 6: their part. They did their part. Dolphins introducing Jeff Hafley

459
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 6: is their new head coach right now. Very interesting coach

460
00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 6: at Boston College. And yeah it's coordinator. Ain't bad mm hmm.

461
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 2: Soul brother.

462
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, coach Inglewood.

463
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 4: He gonna get all sould up in Inglewood, the offensive

464
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 4: coordinator for the Chargers. They fired up everybody left it

465
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 4: right around there. So the league has changed, man league

466
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 4: has changed. The Cowboys still looking for a defensive coordinator,

467
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: so they talked with Jonathan Gannon in person, Christian Parker,

468
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 4: Deante Jones, Jim Leonard Is on those right now.

469
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Speaker 3: You're four in the What do you like about safety?

470
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Speaker 5: I'm just saying I like this game when he was

471
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 5: playing because he was a part of those Ravens teams

472
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 5: right in those Jets as well.

473
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Speaker 3: He was a smart guy in the back end, good safety.

474
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Speaker 3: You know, wasn't wasn't the fastest in the world, but

475
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: he had he played up top with it.

476
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Speaker 2: So I just like this game.

477
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 5: You know, That's that's what kind of kind of attracted

478
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 5: need to him. As far as you know, I don't

479
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 5: know about the coaching aspect. I don't know how the

480
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 5: excess and those wise, but he was player in this time?

481
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: Just does that matter? That? Does yet?

482
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: How come out Harris hat here.

483
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 2: To see Hmmm, you know I think that's more.

484
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a different conversations.

485
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 6: The main reason the slot corner ain't here they didn't

486
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 6: value him the right way, obviously, what was that?

487
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 4: Yet I'm just asking, I mean, we're talking about like, hey,

488
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 4: this guy did this and that we've seen this before

489
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 4: around here, and they come through it out the back

490
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 4: door like it didn't matter.

491
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Speaker 3: So do y'all relate more or it doesn't matter y'all

492
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Speaker 3: at all?

493
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Speaker 5: But would y'all relate more to having a cultural coordinator

494
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 5: that played the game that was actually you know, out

495
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Speaker 5: there and it was at the highest.

496
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Speaker 6: I've had both and and I've related better to the

497
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 6: to the to the coach that played rather than than

498
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 6: than the coach that didn't. And I think that because

499
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 6: the coach that played was able to actually process that

500
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 6: information and deliver it in a different different in a

501
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 6: different way than the guy who hadn't played. Was the

502
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 6: guy who hadn't played was more so x's and o's

503
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 6: and just straight to the point about how it needs

504
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 6: to be played. The dude who actually played it can

505
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 6: give you the X and o's, but then tell you

506
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 6: how I feel to play it too as well in

507
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 6: certain situations. And so that for me always went, you know,

508
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 6: it went a little bit further, and I could I

509
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 6: don't want to name names, but I could name names

510
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 6: about the coaches that were able to coach this way

511
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 6: and the ones that were able to coach that way.

512
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: I just, you know, like you said, I had it,

513
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 3: you know, both ways.

514
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 5: Guys that didn't play and guys that played, And like

515
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 5: you said, they make it easier because they understand. Like

516
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 5: when the guys that didn't play, they're like, Church, why

517
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 5: weren't you two yards outside the hash at this alignment

518
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 5: when the ball was snapped?

519
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 3: You got to be right.

520
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 5: It was more like they force you to kind of

521
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 5: be robotic out there, and that's not how the game

522
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 5: is played. You gotta feel it. You gotta have that

523
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 5: momentum or whatever the case may be when you're out there.

524
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 5: And the guys that didn't play, you know, didn't really

525
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 5: understand that. They were like, you need to be right here,

526
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 5: right here. That's a minus. I'm like the coach I

527
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 5: made the play right. No, No, I ain't gonna be

528
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 5: like that next, so you know. But but I've seen it,

529
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 5: you know both ways.

530
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Speaker 2: I've seen it both ways, and I agree. I want

531
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: to I want the coach that played, but they take

532
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: it a step further. Every player isn't a good coach.

533
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: There's something that's very true. So like just because you played,

534
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: just because you had to act, lays the success, Like

535
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: it doesn't transfer over the thing that makes it interesting

536
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: when you talk about who is your favorite candidate, help

537
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: me out, who'd you just Jim Len You said you

538
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: liked him because he was cerebral. Those guys, I think

539
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 2: typically trans transition to be a better coach because they

540
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: played the game. But they're cerebral, cerebral and thinking and

541
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: understanding the guy that didn't play it because the guy

542
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: that didn't understand it, like you said, they're on us.

543
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: They're saying this, this is this. And when you have

544
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 2: that player coach that respects and controls the locker room,

545
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: it's like he doesn't call him out in there, but

546
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: he says, hey, coach behind closed door, either we need

547
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: to do it like this, or hey, just don't mess

548
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: with my players, and I'm gonna coach them and get

549
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: them right there, so you got to have a fine balance.

550
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: So that's why I want to ask you, like, with

551
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: thinking about that, do you think that he's going to

552
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: transition into being a good coach because that matters. Like

553
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: there's some players where they've talked to me and they'd

554
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: be like, you just got to go over here and

555
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: you just run through his face right here, and it's like, no,

556
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: this is different. Now we're running a three four multiple.

557
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: I need to stand up in a two point stand

558
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: versus where you were in all fours going straight ahead.

559
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he'll definitely transitions well. And you know,

560
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 5: like I said, I've had it, you know, both ways.

561
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 5: I've been coached by you know, guys that played the

562
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 5: game at an extremely high level. But when they try to,

563
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 5: you know, get you to play that same way, it's like, coach,

564
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 5: I'm not you. I'm not you know, I don't have

565
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 5: that same skill set and they don't know how to

566
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 5: you know, break that down. They're like, man, all you

567
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 5: got to do is just put his hand right here,

568
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: flip your hips open up. I'm like, coach, like you

569
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 5: had some of the most fluid.

570
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: Hips in the national football you got to give me

571
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 3: another way to try to and angle this, and so

572
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: you know, it kind of works both ways.

573
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: So those names there, who do you like?

574
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: I like the guy out of Denver who was Leonard.

575
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: I like Jim just because of the pedigree that he's

576
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: been around. Yes, he hasn't caused to play, but he

577
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: showed right now that I.

578
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: Believe it was the past game coordinator the defense.

579
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: I want to see he was the past game coordinator.

580
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: But to see what that secondary was able to do

581
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: without your best player, that shows me that you cann't

582
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: just on the fly. And right now in the Cowboys'

583
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: locker room, it's about finding someone that's gonna be good

584
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: for them, that can also make the scheme. Master player.

585
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 3: So you say that.

586
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 4: About their adjustments, I go back to the defensive coordinator,

587
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 4: Vance Joseph, former dB guy himself. So so so when

588
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 4: I come into this, it's interesting now because I go

589
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 4: back into this about who calls plays and who gets

590
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 4: credit who does true Eric beingemy couldn't get a job

591
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 4: because he didn't call the plays, okay, and now they

592
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: bringing him back you know what we need right right,

593
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: So it's just very interesting. So we what are we

594
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 4: giving Jim Lennard credit for what do we give Advanced

595
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: Joseph credit for? Because Vance Joseph doing some head coaching

596
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: interviews and we just saw he's named out there for

597
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 4: the assistant coach of the year.

598
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 6: Who you going with in that situation, I'm gonna go

599
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 6: with Vance Joseph.

600
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 4: And that's an interview, I mean for your for the

601
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 4: defense coordinator.

602
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: For here, Yeah, his understudy was doing all right.

603
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon, Christian Parker, Deronte Jones, Jim Lennard. Jones is

604
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: past get coordinated with the Vikings. Parker defensive backs coach

605
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 4: with Philly had the two pro all pros Qui Mitchell

606
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: and then the kid Cooper Jean and then he coached

607
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 4: in Denver and had certain out there.

608
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 6: So I'm probably gonna go with the kid, the Philly kid,

609
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 6: Christian Parker. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Christian Parker and

610
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 6: being that because like number one, it's not just those

611
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 6: two dudes did he coached, but he had to coach

612
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 6: that whole secretary And and the thing about it is,

613
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 6: you know, it's such a tough thing to actually call

614
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 6: out because when you haven't had a you don't know

615
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 6: if a person can actually call plays or not, you know,

616
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 6: And so when you actually start giving them other duties,

617
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 6: is it going to take away from what they've been

618
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 6: able to do over the past. And so with that

619
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 6: being said, though, able to get those two dudes and

620
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 6: and and the zine. If I'm if not mistaken, he's

621
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 6: playing a totally different position that he played in college.

622
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 6: Like since since he got to the league he was outside.

623
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 6: Now he's more so primarily inside. And for him to

624
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 6: be able to learn that position and that's actually one

625
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 6: of the hardest positions to play in the second, you know,

626
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 6: and to be successful at it and for it to

627
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 6: be taught the way that he's been able to do it.

628
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's interesting.

629
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 4: None of you guys, said Jonathan Gannon, former Super Bowl

630
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator they lost. But that and a former head coach.

631
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 4: They've been out here. This has been the mo o lately,

632
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 4: them hiring former head coach to be the DC, especially

633
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 4: for a head coach who's going to be a play

634
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: caller over there, to have a guy they trust.

635
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: This is uh interesting, three former players. He can't keep

636
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: his hands to himself, so you know, he's swinging all

637
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: casts because they you know.

638
00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.

639
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: That's I can't do that.

640
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: I just don't. It's not even that he's swinging on caps.

641
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: When you make this higher right now, you got to

642
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: pick somebody that can control this market. With Christian it's like, hey,

643
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: you're young enough, but you're this is like your first major,

644
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: like big market. And then you got a locker room

645
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: that's coming in there that has holes character wise and

646
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: still trying to find themself as a defense.

647
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 4: Philly though he was in Philly. Who Parker, what does

648
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 4: that mean? Did you see all the mess they went

649
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: through this year? And you've been in Phildelphia and they

650
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: won a championship?

651
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: To you want that was mess? On the other side

652
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: of the ball, that's different, like for a for they

653
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: have a culture that's winning. There when you're winning, all

654
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: the holes and cracks and stuff can be covered up

655
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: when you're winning because guess what, we're going to the

656
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: super Bowl, We're gonna do the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: We can do that.

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Speaker 2: But in someone that has been historically losing, it's a

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Speaker 2: big media glass and like, I just don't know right now.

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Speaker 2: If I'm a player, like you said, what a barrier

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Speaker 2: was the first thing he said, Oh, this guy don't

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Speaker 2: know how to keep his hands to itself. The guys

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Speaker 2: that you do have in here, do we have enough

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Speaker 2: that confusion. You had the confusion of guys not liking

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Speaker 2: eber Flus and his play calling. So do you want

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Speaker 2: to have somebody there hasn't won the locker room over

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Speaker 2: which here at the Cowboys, if you don't went over

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Speaker 2: the locker room, it don't correlates to the field right now.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I don't. Me personally, I don't like

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Speaker 2: that pick for them to be successful. No.

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Speaker 6: I mean, for me, what I've been saying with the

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Speaker 6: feel like needs to be done is that there should

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Speaker 6: not be a risk taken in the higher all right,

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Speaker 6: they have a proven offense, you have a proven offense coordinator.

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Speaker 6: You gotta proven everything that's going on over there. You

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Speaker 6: don't want to buy chance again, say okay, let's maybe

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Speaker 6: go out here and find somebody who can actually facilitate

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Speaker 6: this job and maybe get it somewhere mid row. You know,

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys have got to get out the bottom tier

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Speaker 6: of the of the of the defense in the NFL

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Speaker 6: period on the on the running side and the passing side.

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Speaker 6: Primarily the passing ish side needs the most work from

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Speaker 6: what we've seen towards the tail end of the season.

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Speaker 6: So with that being said, you definitely want somebody who

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Speaker 6: can come here and speak to that secondary, you know,

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Speaker 6: and try to primarily get them right because we've seen

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Speaker 6: the holes that were filled in the front half as

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Speaker 4: Now, all right, let's get our last break in here

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Speaker 4: when we come back. One question about Leonard and a

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Speaker 4: next to the Cowboys up for their next defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: here going over there. So candidates here for the Dallas

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Speaker 4: Cowboys defensive coordinator job here. So one thing I wanted

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Speaker 4: to put out here about Jim Leonard. So I've been

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Speaker 4: in the NFL two years? Is that a concern for

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Speaker 4: you guys? Only coach in the NFL for two years.

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Speaker 4: But he's only coach. He's the defensive coordinator of Wisconsin

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Speaker 4: for a number of years, and so he's never called

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Speaker 4: defenses in the league and he's only.

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Speaker 3: Been an NFL coach for two seasons.

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Speaker 4: And then we see the guy in front of him,

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Speaker 4: Vance Joseph is well thought of doing head coaching interviews,

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Speaker 4: been a head coach in the league and has been

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Speaker 4: running a superior Denver defense. It's playing an AFC championship, yes,

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Speaker 4: and then Quick and Christian Parker the other side. And

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Speaker 4: he's never been a defensive coordinator at any level exactly.

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Speaker 4: So just wanted to make sure I put that out

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Speaker 4: there for him. But so both guys, I mean, everybody's

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Speaker 4: got something that you could say I don't know about

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Speaker 4: this or that, and that's where Brian Schottenheimer's got to

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Speaker 4: make that call. Now, keep in mind we're talk about coordinators.

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Speaker 4: Kellen Moore never called the play. They made him coordinator

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Speaker 4: and you see, yes, you know what, give him credit.

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Speaker 4: They were right in terms of Kellen Moore was successful coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Here goes to the Eagles wins the Super Bowls a coordinator.

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Speaker 4: I thought he had a very good first year in

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Speaker 4: New Orleans. Just look at the record, look at the

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Speaker 4: progress and what they were doing, so so it can happen.

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Speaker 4: So they have shown they can do that here. Jason

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Speaker 4: Garrett was a guy that that had never called a play.

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Speaker 4: They brought him in here, made in their play caller.

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Speaker 4: Then eventually they made their head coach. So they've got

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Speaker 4: a track record of saying we don't care about it.

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Speaker 6: Man, like Jason Garrett was calling some bomb, all right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a head coach of the year.

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Speaker 2: It was he.

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Speaker 4: He was a coach of the year, his first year

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Speaker 4: calling plays, ended up with two job offers. So I'm

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Speaker 4: just I'm just saying, they have shown you ultimately.

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Speaker 3: Eighty My argument is not even such an argument.

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Speaker 4: It is you're saying they have shown you, they'll hire

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Speaker 4: some people who haven't done it.

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Speaker 2: That's all and the only thing. Yes, they're both in experience,

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Speaker 2: but I like the guy with two years of actually

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Speaker 2: coaching in the league. You're Underdvanced Joseph, who has been

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Speaker 2: a head coach, who's been successful defensive play caller. You

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Speaker 2: come from that tree lineus that I was trying to

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Speaker 2: get out of there, Dennis third Man, with him teaching

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Speaker 2: those guys and even with him calling the defense at Washington,

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Speaker 2: you've been the DC like you Wisconsin. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: sorry Wisconsin, Wisconsin, which you've had the helms. You know

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Speaker 2: what it feels like to be in those pressure situations.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like you were a defensive coordinator at a

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Speaker 2: Division two school, no selecting them, or a lower like

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Speaker 2: you're at a Power five school. So for you to

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Speaker 2: do that and have all those guys around there, I'm

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Speaker 2: trusting your pedigree and I'm trusting that because it's not

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Speaker 2: about just the numbers, guys, it's about controlling his locker

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Speaker 2: room and winning it. That's where I think he's going

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Speaker 2: to have the upper hand.

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Speaker 3: All right, whoever comes in here back leadership skills.

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Speaker 6: I would I would think all those dudes, I would

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Speaker 6: I would lean towards the direction you're going. But I

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Speaker 6: would say advance over gym simply because that's not up

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Speaker 6: for it.

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Speaker 2: Well he's Christian Parker.

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Speaker 6: No, but then you say he's talked, but he so

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Speaker 6: he's not on the list at all.

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Speaker 2: I do know the guy under up under is up

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Speaker 2: for it. So that's why I said, you get you get.

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Speaker 3: To learn from him, all right, Chris? We got games here,

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Speaker 3: games with rank here?

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Speaker 15: Hey that no man, Sorry, guys, I had to turn

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Speaker 15: some stuff down in here. Okay, here we go the rankings.

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Speaker 3: Where I get more texts about these rankings. It's crazy.

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Speaker 15: Anthony still in the lead. Eighty seven and sixty two record.

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Speaker 15: Remember you can't go to Vegas. That's pretty good, Yes,

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Speaker 15: number two, Newie up by one game eighty four and

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Speaker 15: sixty five, Church one game back eighty three and sixty six.

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Speaker 15: Even get caught, Yeah yeah, your boy can't get caught.

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Speaker 15: And then demntre seventy eight and seventy one.

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Speaker 5: I need to have some pick stuck on whos gonna

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Speaker 5: win the awards to throw in there? And we got

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Speaker 5: two We only got two games there's no college games less.

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Speaker 5: We're making basketball.

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Speaker 3: One of them.

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Speaker 15: All right, all right, first game, we got what Seattle

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Speaker 15: against the Rams, a rematch with the regular season in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: In Seattle, give me give me Seattle on that one.

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Speaker 5: I mean the Rams they had two hard five games

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Speaker 5: coming off of overtime game in Chicago and they got

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Speaker 5: to go to Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, give me Seattle on this one. Twenty eight twenty four.

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Speaker 2: You know I'm going that twelfth Man? Yeah, what you say?

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Speaker 2: How you saying?

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Speaker 6: How you said?

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Speaker 7: Make that noise hold on. Let me let me fin

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Speaker 7: Like I said, I'm going over there with the twelfth Man.

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Speaker 7: And you know who got money with Seahawks to the

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Speaker 7: next thirty two to forty four is gonna.

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Speaker 3: Be co Cock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm you know, I said it earlier.

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Speaker 6: They only needed two games to win at home to

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Speaker 6: get there, So I'm righting with Seattle to you. I'm

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Speaker 6: an say it's going to be twenty eight twenty one Seattle,

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Speaker 6: all right.

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Speaker 4: I really want the Rams to win. This pick is

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Speaker 4: for Tank Lawrence, who is I would like to see?

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Speaker 4: Thank Lawrence? Have an opportunity to go play for Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl and be out there the way d war was

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Speaker 4: when Denver ended up winning it in San Francisco, the

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Speaker 4: same stadium. That would be cool for DeMarcus Ware to

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Speaker 4: see DeMarcus Lawrence win a Super Bowl. So give me

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Speaker 4: Seattle twenty four twenty three. It's very close.

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Speaker 2: He can wait to see him on media road. I

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Speaker 2: cannot wait.

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Speaker 2: The answer.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you all right, what we got next year?

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Speaker 3: We got New England at Denver. Now Denver, what's throwing

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Speaker 3: it out there? For anybody who's got you got it?

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Speaker 5: He's not look good. But I think that was more

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Speaker 5: for Houston's defense. But give me may on this one.

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Speaker 5: And the Patriots twenty four twenty Steady ain't through a

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Speaker 5: pass off season.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna just Devil's advocate, you know how I

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Speaker 2: like to do. Go ahead, make the Patriots do not

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Speaker 2: do good against backups Nick Foles.

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Speaker 3: Hey, so.

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Speaker 2: It's not so much as the quarterback. It's the defense

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Speaker 2: and that pass rush. What Nick? But he told them

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Speaker 2: boys over there, come back to me, come back.

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Speaker 6: Come oh here you go, hey man, I'm going I'm

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Speaker 6: going to New England on this. I'm going to New

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Speaker 6: England on this too as well. I'm looking at it

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Speaker 6: from the standpoint that you know, they tried the pressure,

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Speaker 6: made several games this year, and he's lived up to

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Speaker 6: the pressure and not mention that you know they've that's

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Speaker 6: been playing good solid football. Give me and as much

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Speaker 6: as I don't want to pick the New England Patriots,

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Speaker 6: tuck rule games and all kinds of other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Jee.

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Speaker 6: Hey, hey, the flake gate, whatever else you want to

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Speaker 6: talk about, you know what I'm saying. But like, I

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Speaker 6: like what Mike Rabe was doing up there, So give

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Speaker 6: me the Patriots, and I'm gonna say it's gonna be

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Speaker 6: Patriots twenty four. No, it's gonna be high scoring. I

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Speaker 6: think give me thirty thirty to twenty eight Patriots.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm ready now, all right, let me be

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Speaker 2: the lone wolf. I think it's gonna be a rematch

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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. I think it's gonna be the

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Speaker 2: Seahawks versus Denver again. I think Denver defense is gonna

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Speaker 2: corral because May has struggled. So I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 2: Denver twenty eight and Patriots twenty four.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a rematch in Super Bowl trape. It's

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Speaker 4: gonna be the Hawks and Patriots this one.

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Speaker 2: You said, so let me beat the lone Wolf. If

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Speaker 2: I win this one, I automatically win the picks for

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Speaker 2: the year.

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Speaker 3: I said, that's not how it works.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Twenty six seventeen Patriots win this one, Jared didn't got

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Speaker 4: no confidence in all right.

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Speaker 3: That's been the players times. You appreciate you. Talk to

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Speaker 3: you next week. Your boys not come.

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