1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Strong and Jack Katie and he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: It was actually scheduled to do some some nine to 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: eleven events that the Vice President's team canceled that because 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: obviously they felt that this took priority just in terms 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: of being able to go there and to meet with 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's family in Utah, and not only that, but 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: to take the family and his remains and the casket 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: back to Arizona where he lived with his family. It's 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: just a sign of reverence for Charlie Kirk and also 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: just signifies the impact of the relationship that jd Vance 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: and Charlie Kirk had. 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you've seen the video jd Vance actually walking 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: with the casket as it was transferred to a plane. 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: He's close friends with the dude, and it'd be something 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: you have a friend gunned down like that. 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 3: Horrifying. Yeah, on virtually every level, So every level. 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: The big news that is out and the FBI is 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: having a press conference right now and we'll get more information, 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: is that the shooter turned himself in told apparently confessed 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: to his dad. Guilt got to him or something told 23 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: his dad. His dad convinced him to turn himself in, 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: and he's in custody and we're going to learn more 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: about it here in the next hour or so the story. 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how that shades and 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: changes the discussion. I'm not sure how much it should, honestly, 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: but it will certainly at least some. A couple of 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: my favorite thinkers weighing in on the whole thing, just 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: want to quote them briefly, A couple of the great 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: women of journalism and commentary. Peggy Noonan says, pray now 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: for America. We are in big trouble. We all know this. 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: We don't even know what to do with what we know. 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: But the assassination of Charlie Kirk feel different as an event, 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: like a hinge point, like something that is going to 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: reverbrate in new dark ways. 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: It does. 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: It isn't just another dreadful thing. It carries the ominous 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: sense that we're at the beginning of something bad. 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I hope that's not true, obviously, but 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: it does feel like a turning point. It could be 43 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: a turning point of Okay, we've gone too far and 44 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: we ratchet down, but I don't like our chances. 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: She quotes one commentator saying yesterday afternoon that normally after 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: such events the temperature goes down a little, but not 47 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: in this case. And he's right there, the heartbroken, the indifferent, 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: than the era reconcilable blah blah blah acts Formally, Twitter 49 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: was from the moment of the shooting overrun with anguish 50 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: and rage. It's on now and Blue Sky, where supposedly 51 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 3: gentler folk fled, was gleefully violent, too bad. Live by 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 3: the gun, die by the gun. But what a disaster 53 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: all this is for the young, she writes, How was 54 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: a presence in the life The example he got, he said, 55 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: was a template for how to discuss politics with good 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: cheer and confidence, with sincerity and conversation, never violence. 57 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: I forget what the percentages are, but a very low 58 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: percentage of people are on Twitter or Blue Sky, very low. 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: So how much should you look to that for what 60 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: the nation thinks since it's a tiny percentage of not 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: the most normal people that are on those platforms and post. 62 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree, I think in virtually, you know, 63 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: every day, in every way, it's much more healthy to 64 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: look at the people you are with and around, work, 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 3: your community. You're a place of worship if you have one. 66 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: Whatever. 67 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: The Internet is not your world. Your world is your world. 68 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: It's a good point. Kim Strassel, Oh, I'm sorry, No, 69 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: this is we'll get to earn a second. Somebody else's 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: writing about Oh, the editorial board of the journal talking 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: about the various rage and glee and just sickness. And 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: then they say, for a better example, look to America's 73 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: college campuses where Charlie spent so much of his time 74 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: building his movement with Turning Point USA. And they go 75 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: through a bunch of University Alabama, about one hundred students 76 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: gathered to cry, pray, remember, and light Candle's political violence 77 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: has no place in America, they said. Country was found 78 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: on the idea of freedom of speech, and we should 79 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: all honor that. Similar crowd at Duke Big Crowd University 80 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: of Oklahoma came together Missouri, where he was going to 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: appear later this month at MISSOO. What Charlie did was 82 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: give people the ability to speak even if they disagreed 83 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: with him, said one student. We need to remember in 84 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: the aftermath of this that if there was ever a 85 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: goal or a reason that someone will want to kill him, 86 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: it is to stop us from talking to each other 87 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: the citadel. The list goes on and on. So I 88 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: found that positive. And then finally, this is Kim Strassel, 89 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: who makes the point, as we made the other day, 90 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: that the utter, undeluded horror of this is that Charlie 91 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: Kirk's message was never violence, Let's talk, and for a 92 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: man advocating that to be gunned down at thirty one 93 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: years old is a measure of the perversity of our 94 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: political discussion and how even as earnest and peaceful a 95 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: message is that gets portrayed as hate speech that hurts 96 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: people and needs to be ended well by some. 97 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: Like I said multiple times yesterday, though if it was 98 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: somebody that was a real flamethrower, you still don't shoot him, right, 99 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: and you can't make an argument well, they brought it 100 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: on them. So with all the words that they said, what. 101 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you're you're driving at, it seems 102 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: almost unnecessary or even counterproductive to strongly make the case. 103 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: And he, of all. 104 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: People, didn't deserve political violence, because nobody does. I get 105 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: your point, and it's a good one. At the same time, 106 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: what I'm talking about is the diseased, hyperbolic political messaging 107 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: of our time that could turn someone as peaceful and 108 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 3: earnest as Charlie Kirk into a Satan who must be slayed. 109 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: M right, Yeah, that is troubling. So if you lean right, 110 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: you're of the belief that one of the reasons Democrats 111 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: can't win national elections right now is. 112 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: They believe Twitter is the world, right. 113 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: And that that time guy and that tiny loud group 114 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: of people on social media they have to react to. 115 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: But when big stories happen, we turn to the reactions 116 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: on Twitter's and Twitter and Blue Sky and act like 117 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: that's the world. I mean, we know it's not. I don't. 118 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can survive social media. We're 119 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: not smart enough to like fully embrace the fact that 120 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: that's a tiny percent of not normal people right commenting 121 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: on there. 122 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: Well, when for ninety nine point nine to nine nine 123 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: percentage of the time human beings have had a frontal 124 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: lobe and the ability to reason, the entirety of the 125 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: inputs we took in were personally experienced in your own life. 126 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: Your eyes, your ears, your nose, et cetera. 127 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: And then the printing press came on a blip of 128 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: go and people were exposed to ideas and events that 129 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: happened far from us. And then cable news twenty four 130 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: hours of the most horrible things that can happen, and 131 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: now social media on practically unrestricted exposure to the sickest, 132 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: angriest minds on Earth reacting to the most terrible events 133 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: that have taken place on Earth. I don't think it's 134 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: a beast. We're designed to endure that. In fact, I 135 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: know we're not. I know with certainty we're not. Whether 136 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: we can adapt and deal with it somehow is the question? 137 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: Mark man. Nutpicking is so dangerous. You pick out the 138 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: most vile person on the other side and let that 139 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: seep into your brain that they represent the other side. 140 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: They don't. 141 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: No, here's the equation we need, though, or a formula 142 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: that we all memorize. If three people on Blue Sky 143 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: say horrific things about Charlie Kirk, that's of no significance. 144 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 3: Everybody knows they're sick. F's in the world and there 145 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: always will be. But what if thirty thousands say it? 146 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: What is that? Does that? 147 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: Then you divide it by ten over the power of 148 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 3: something and you then deduce that, Okay, five percent of 149 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: the third of people who identify as progressive are sick 150 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: angry f's, as I put it charmingly, I'll go because 151 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: it's not of no significance. It's just hard to know 152 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: how much significance to attribute to it. And I wish 153 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 3: I could help you all with that, but I'm still 154 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: trying to figure out myself. 155 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: So the governor just announced what was written on the 156 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: bullet casing. I'll have that four you ride up for this. 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The Governor of Utah finally 183 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: confirming what was written on the bullet casings of the 184 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: scumbag shooter. 185 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 4: So, the area north of Campus Drive Road where the 186 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: suspect crossed over you saw some of that in the 187 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: video that we released last night, consists of a grassy 188 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: area with trees. On the edge of the UVU campus 189 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: investigators discovered a bolt action rifle wrapped in a dark 190 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 4: colored towel. The rifle was determined to be a Mouser 191 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 4: Model ninety eight thirty yacht six thirty six caliber bolt 192 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 4: action rifle. The rifle had a scope mounted on top 193 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 4: of it. Investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on 194 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 4: casings found with the rifle. Inscriptions on a fired casing 195 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: read notices bulges, capital, wo, what's this question? 196 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: Mark. 197 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read hey fascist, exclamation point, catch, 198 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 4: exclamation point, up arrow symbol, right arrow and symbol, and 199 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: three down arrow symbols. 200 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: A second unfired casing. 201 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 4: Read oh, bella chow bella chow bella chow chow chow. 202 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 4: And a third unfired casing red. 203 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: If you read this you are gay. Lmao. The bella 204 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: Chow is a song favored by reason existence movements and 205 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: revolutionary anti capitalist partisans. I am told by Noah Roffman, 206 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: who happens to be writing a book right now about 207 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 1: liberal violence or left wing violence. Wow, sure he'll be 208 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: updating that book, so writing on the casings, which has 209 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: happened now a couple of times. Who came up with 210 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: that idea? Do you you assume people are going to 211 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: find the casings? And then does it seem extra clever? 212 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: I don't what are you doing there? 213 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: You want your purpose known even if you get away 214 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: with it. 215 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know where there's a. 216 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: Report that it was a family friend, the governor said, 217 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: I guess in the press conference it was a family 218 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: friend who turned in the shooter or urged him to 219 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: turn himself in. 220 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: We'll we'll find out. I don't like the direction all 221 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: this is going. All right, We got more on the 222 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: way you could comment on anything text line four KFTC. 223 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 5: And just last night, the suspect was taken into custody 224 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 5: at ten pm local time, in less than thirty six 225 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 5: hours thirty three to be precise, thanks to the full 226 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 5: weight of the federal government and leading out with the 227 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 5: partners here in the state of Utah, Governor Cox, the 228 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 5: suspect was apprehended in historic time period. 229 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: Well, he turned himself in, so I don't okay. 230 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, The governor himself took over at the press conference 231 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 3: and gave us all sorts of the information that we 232 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 3: have been looking for. 233 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: We'll start here. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, we got him. 234 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 4: On the evening of September eleventh, a family member of 235 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted 236 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 4: the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had 237 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 4: confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident. 238 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 4: Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson, who stated that 239 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: Robinson had become more political in recent years. The family 240 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to 241 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: dinner prior to September tenth, and in the conversation with 242 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. 243 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: They talked about why they didn't like him and the 244 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 4: viewpoints that he had. The family member also stated Kirk 245 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: was full of hate and spreading hate. 246 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: Go on mister Governor. 247 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: Roommate who stated that his roommate, referring to Robinson, made 248 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: a joke on discord, Investigators asked if he would show 249 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: them the messages on discord. He opened it and showed 250 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take photos 251 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate. 252 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: These photos consisted of various messages, including content of messages 253 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: between the phone contact named Tyler with an emoji icon 254 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of these messages fluted 255 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 4: messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating a need to 256 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle 257 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 4: in a bush, messages related to visually watching the area 258 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: where a rifle was left, and a message referring to 259 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 4: having left the rifle wrapped in a towel. The messages 260 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: also referred to engraving bullets and a mention of a 261 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: scope and the rifle being unique. Messages from the contact 262 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 4: Tyler also mentioned that he had changed outfits. 263 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: The next clip, I think is what we've heard about 264 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: the odd messages on the bullets, which need to be 265 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: decoded for a lot of us. But so it appears 266 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: to be precisely what it seemed to be. A person 267 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: who hated Charlie Kirk killed him over his ideas. 268 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: And the whole high powered rifle thing. Well that's true enough, 269 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: but it's like one of the most common guns in America. 270 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: Every kid I knew when I was like a junior 271 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: high high school kid living in deer hunting country had 272 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: a thirty odd to six. I mean, it's like super 273 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: super common and not difficult to use. So I don't know, 274 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: I feel like they're tarting it up as making it 275 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: seem very exotic, But it's not. It's the opposite of exotic. 276 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: It's like the standard hunting rifle. Yeah, yeah, and it's 277 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: and if you're a hunter with a scope, it's not 278 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: that difficult to make that kind of shot from that 279 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: distance right right. To do it when you know you're 280 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: about to kill somebody and and and be on the run, 281 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: that's a different question. But if you're kind of nuts, 282 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: maybe that keeps you calm. I don't know, so I. 283 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: Don't know what to say other than everything we've said 284 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: over the last forty eight hours turns out to be 285 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: more or less the case. Yeah, I'll be interested to 286 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 3: hear the decoding of some of the messages on the 287 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: shell casings. 288 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'm at this point thinking there's 289 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: nothing to nothing to change the conversation whatsoever. I'm glad 290 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: they caught the person that did it, so they're not 291 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: on the run to hurt anybody else. But other than that, 292 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: the conversation is exactly the same as yesterday, and. 293 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: The stupidity and futility of it is one of the 294 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: hardest things to take, along with obviously the loss of 295 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: a young father's life, but. 296 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: Just the stupidity of it. 297 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well, as the press conference goes on, 298 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: we'll certainly mine it for anything that you need to know, 299 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 3: and we'll bring it to you and share some commentary 300 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: as well. A bunch of other stories we need to 301 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 3: get to today, and we will get to them in 302 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: due course as we can. 303 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean, there's plenty of videos out there, various nut 304 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: jobs cheering this when they got the news and everything 305 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: like that. How you could possibly convince yourself that this 306 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: is going to make America a safer, better place in 307 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: any way, when you have political violence, you are You're crazy, armstrong, 308 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: and getty. According to a. 309 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 6: New survey, forty percent of adults consult their partner before 310 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 6: making a large purchase, while others clearly don't. The lightsaber, 311 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 6: used by Darth Vader in the first Star Wars trilogy, 312 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 6: recently sold at auction for nearly four million dollars. So 313 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 6: guessing that's one of the adults who don't consult their. 314 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: Partner on big purchases. It was used by Darth Vader, 315 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: that's not a real person. So the number was forty percent, 316 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: so I means sixty percent don't consult their partner and 317 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: before large purchases. 318 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: Wow, okay, depends how you intermingle your finances. I guess, 319 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: I guess, geez. They're on coming up more of the uh. 320 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: The press conference over the capture of the assassin to 321 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk, it was as mundane, straightforward and horrifying as 322 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: we thought. 323 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: A young man Utah, twenty two. 324 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 3: Years old who hated Charlie Kirk's ideas assassinated him. 325 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: So I've got a couple of things around kids today 326 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: or I guess society today. More likely, they didn't raise themselves, 327 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: a phrase we like around here for young people, and 328 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: the way they look at the world, either our parenting 329 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: or the education we put them in, is how they 330 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: came to their ideas. And then culture changes over time, 331 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: like for instance, USA today, this was yesterday. Path to 332 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: adulthood takes new detours. And they've got a graph of 333 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: the path to adulthood in nineteen seventy five, which is 334 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: a long time ago. That is fifty years ago and 335 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: now and the biggest bulk of young people. So we're 336 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: by young people. We're talking about twenty five five to 337 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: thirty four year olds, twenty five to thirty four year olds, 338 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: which weren't really as you'll see from the stats, you 339 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: wouldn't even have called them young people back then in 340 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: the same way that you do now, because nearly half 341 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: of that age group fifty years ago, nearly half had 342 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: reached all four milestones of moved away from their parents 343 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: in the labor force, married with children. Almost half of 344 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty four year olds right now, that 345 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: percentage is eight percent. Oh mah, that have done all 346 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: four of those adult milestones. 347 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 3: And I have a feeling you're gonna break down those 348 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 3: who have achieved one or two or three. 349 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 7: Yeah. 350 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: OK, so if you were, well, if you're USA, I'll 351 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: tell you the way USA today presents it. And I 352 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: don't think that really the thing. I think it's more 353 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: cultural than this. So young adults are I'll read the 354 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 1: first paragraph, young adults are prioritizing economic security over marriage 355 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: and having children. You know, I've been arguing against this 356 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: for years now. I don't believe that people are. I 357 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: really want to get married and have kids, but it's 358 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: just not financially prudent, so I'm gonna save my money 359 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: until I can. That is not what is happening okay, 360 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: and court pretending it is well and if you are stop, 361 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: it'll be fine, you'll figure it out. I'm sure there 362 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: are unicorns out there who are but I don't think 363 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: that's what's going on. None of the young people I know, 364 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: and you know it's that's anecdotal, of course, but it's 365 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: you're going to concerts and traveling that you're not saving 366 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: your money so you can have a kid as soon 367 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: as possible. You don't want to have kids. Why are people? 368 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: Why are people so unwilling to just say it loud? 369 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: I don't have kids. I think it would get in 370 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: the way of my life. I want to do stuff. 371 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: Why are people just not willing to admit that. 372 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 3: I do know of a couple of kids of friends, 373 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 3: adults kids who say that that I want to make 374 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 3: sure I'm financially blah blah blah before we do this, 375 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: or blah blah blah. They actually say it, I don't 376 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: know whether they actually mean it. It's a good excuse 377 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 3: if you're not sure you want to get married, right, 378 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: or not sure if you want to have kids at chester. 379 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, people in successful countries with good economies 380 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: have decided they don't want they don't have the urge 381 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: to have kids, right, People aren't making financial decisions about 382 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: children all these millennia. It just it was like the 383 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: biggest urge in your life. I think in all of our. 384 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 3: Years of babbling, I've never exactly articulated this. Before I 385 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: got married pretty young, uh, and Judy and I had kids. 386 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: You know, I was gone, gosh, twenty seven when Kate 387 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 3: was born, our first and thirty four when our third 388 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 3: kid was born, And there was in getting married first 389 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: of all, and then when we had a child, I 390 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: definitely felt like I was fully a member of the 391 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 3: adult club. True, yeah, and got the respect. And I'm 392 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: looking at you, you're looking at me. We both understand 393 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 3: something about life from other husbands and fathers. 394 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: Yes, I know. 395 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 3: And I'm like, it was it was being at a 396 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: certain level or it's hard to describe. 397 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't do that untill I was forty five, 398 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: till I had kids. But yes, it's the same experience. 399 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: And then when you meet another parent, you don't need 400 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: to say anything. You just both know. We you know, 401 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: we know what we're doing here. We are in we 402 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: are in it. We are in the real world of adulthood. 403 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: And that felt good. I was proud, absolutely, And if 404 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: you remove that from the culture entirely, that is absolutely 405 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: going to affect people's behavior. If I'm a twenty one 406 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: year old kid right now and I don't feel the 407 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: slightest idea that one of the things my life ought 408 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: to include is X, well then you're not going to 409 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: tend to do it. And I don't feel by the 410 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: way that I was pressured or duped or pulled or 411 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: seduced or anything like that. It's yeah, quite the opposite. No, 412 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: I went with my in with my eyes open, and 413 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: I found it to be a hundred times more satisfying 414 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: that I'd imagined it would be. 415 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 3: So, if anything, it was undersold, Yeah, well now it's 416 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 3: hardly being sold at all. 417 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: This is not meant to be hurtful to people who 418 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: don't have kids or have decided to have kids or whatever. 419 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: But I can't wonderful, wonderful people. I can't even remember 420 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: the point of getting up in the morning before I 421 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: had children. I don't even know how there is a point. 422 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: I just don't you get bedsores if you don't so 423 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: get up. Not to make everything about Charlie Kirk, but 424 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: that was one of his things he said at every 425 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: college gathering pretty much from what I read, is don't 426 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: talk about you can't afford it, do it anyway, You'll 427 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: figure it out, Get married, have kids. Yeah, different topic, 428 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: but also about young people. Unless you got more to 429 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: say on that one, I was just gonna. 430 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 3: Say it reminds me of a lot of the things 431 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: Jordan Peterson has said about take on some responsibility. You're 432 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: gonna love it because it'll make a man of you 433 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 3: or a woman. It'll make a human being of you. 434 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: And another change in the way we look at the 435 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: world and the way people are behaving. This one was 436 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: earned by you, colleges across America. Value Americans place on 437 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: college education has crated in fifteen years. You wouldn't think 438 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: it could change this much this fast, but you did 439 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: earn it. Colleges. Oh yeah, between the price and the 440 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: fact that there's all kinds of studies to show that 441 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: kids don't actually learn anything. And we look around as 442 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: at college kids and think, what are you doing? What 443 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: are these classes we are taking? What is this hitus 444 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: with the numbers, then I will cokay. In twenty ten, 445 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: three quarters of Americans thought a college education was very 446 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: important three quarters. It is now down to a third. 447 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: Good creation. It dropped from three quarters to a third. 448 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: Wow, I think I think people see it as of 449 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: less value because it's of a lot less value. 450 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: That is why. Yeah, that is exact, hardly being taught 451 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: anything in half of that is crap. Yeah. And so 452 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: the not important went from damn near zero to a 453 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: quarter just flat out not important. Then fairly important is 454 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: has climbed and is now the bulk at forty. But 455 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: not important went from like zero, like there's practically nobody 456 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: in America about well, it's not important whether you get 457 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: a college degree or not. Now a quarter people do, 458 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: and then and then the numbers the way the chart looks, 459 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: I would like to see what this looks like five 460 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: years from now. 461 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: Thank you for applying for this accounting job at Jones 462 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: and Jones Accounting. What do you believe is the most 463 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: important part of reconciling credits and debits? 464 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 8: Uh? 465 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: Colonialism? Speaking of which gender studies is that an answer 466 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: trends genderism? Speaking of which, we played this late in 467 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: the show yesterday because we needed the lighting up. 468 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 3: It's a dark moment. But in the wake of the 469 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 3: shooting of poor Charlie Kirk. Fox News broke into their 470 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: coverage because their reporter told them she had a couple 471 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: of college students there at Utah Valley to talk to. 472 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 8: And this is how it went well from what I'm hearing, 473 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 8: If if it's true, the guy who got shot, he 474 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 8: was a pretty big influence in whatever. 475 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: Was going, like the their agenda. 476 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 9: Right, So if I don't know, I hope, I hope 477 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 9: it all like gets figured out. And I really don't 478 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 9: I really don't want this to happen again. 479 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 7: Want Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I just 480 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 7: I from what I heard it was it was a 481 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 7: sniper from from a long ways away. So I don't know. 482 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 7: I think the focus of this should probably be on 483 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 7: probably some sort of some sort of gun control or 484 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 7: something like that, so that things like this can't happen again. 485 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: When those two scholars come to my office and show 486 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: me their diploma, what do you think that makes me think? 487 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 3: About that diploma? Did you print this yourself? Do they 488 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: give it to anyone? Does this mean anything? 489 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. It doesn't mean anything. It honestly doesn't, right, Right, 490 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: I should take no information from you telling me you 491 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: graduated from college. 492 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: Other than that you showed up long enough. Well, you 493 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: remembered where the campus was for a few consecutive years. 494 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: You've hit us with the statistics that spend less time 495 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: in class than ever before. Right, so you barely art 496 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: AUDI and you stayed enrolled. Congratulations. Your parents probably figured 497 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: filled out the paperwork each semester until you graduated, So. 498 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: You remembered where the campus was four consecutive years. I 499 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 3: guess we can assume you'll be able to find your 500 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: way to work if we hire you. Beyond that, though, 501 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: this diploma means nothing, and. 502 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: I've talked about this, the turning point for me, are 503 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: recognizing The turning point for me was well, several years ago. 504 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: Go now in my university town, major university town, we're 505 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: doing trick or treating and I was talking to some 506 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: of the dads and I throughout thinking I was being controversial. 507 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: I don't even know if college education is what I 508 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: want my kids to get. And all the dads were like, yeah, 509 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: I know, me too. Unless it's something specific, I'm not 510 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: pushing my kid. And I was like, wow, in this town, 511 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: the parents have decided unless it's some specific like medical 512 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: thing or something engineering, my kids and not going to college. 513 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: I thought that is a big deal. 514 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 3: I want to tell you what thoughts just pingpongs through 515 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: my heads. At my head, I just have the one 516 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: after a word from if you had two or more, 517 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: that should be the lead. Well I had the second 518 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: one moved because people kept looking at me. 519 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: Funny. 520 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: Anyway, the good folks at Webroots want to remind you 521 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: that TransUnion has preached four million people's in full ie 522 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: and it's happening way too often, and that's why you 523 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: got to trust Webroot Total Protection. 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I was talking 539 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: about how worthless diplumbas were, and I was about to say, 540 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 3: as I've often said, the exception being the technical degrees. 541 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 3: If you're a chemical engineer, you know, computer science, whatever, 542 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: I completely respect your degree. 543 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: But then it I was reminded that the post modernists, 544 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: the Marxists. 545 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: Insist, remember this, on every single field being centered around 546 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: decolonializing anti racism, in other words, neo Marxism, the whole 547 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: slew of radical this theory, radical, that theory, gender. They 548 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: want math class to be focused on anti colonialism. 549 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: They want to tear all of it down. So can 550 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: I trust your engineering degree? Depends where you went went. 551 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: I guess they got the shooter and we know who 552 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: it is and it's very mundane, and uh yeah, that's 553 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, what did you expect and horrible, But 554 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: we got more details on that and a bunch of 555 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: other stuff on the way. Stay here. 556 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 6: We want to start off today by saying that, as 557 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 6: I'm sure you've heard by now, conservative activist Charlie Kirk 558 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 6: was murdered yesterday at a college event Utah. We're horrified 559 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 6: by district test tragedy, and our condolences go out to 560 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 6: his family and loved ones. 561 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: Political violence is abhorrent. I like that. Seth Meyers said that. 562 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert said that. Jimmy Fallon said that practically everybody 563 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: is saying that which is good because it is abhorrent. 564 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: Did you see that Patrick Mahomes, the very Christian, very 565 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: rich Patrick Mahomes, announced yesterday that he would pledge to 566 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: pay all of Charlie Kirk's two children's living in education expenses. Wow. 567 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how wealthy Charlie Kirk was. I know 568 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: he was running one hundred million dollar enterprise. I assumed 569 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: he's pretty wealthy himself. But anyway, it was a very 570 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: very nice gesture. Yeah, and interesting. 571 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: We mentioned earlier that the Yankees had a moment of silence, 572 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: almost certainly because they're players, and a hell of a 573 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: lot of their employees or young men who really respected 574 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk and appreciating his message as well. 575 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: Possible that Patrick Mahomes, as a guy stole in his 576 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: twenties and a Christian, wasn't like super into aware of 577 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: at least Charlie. 578 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: Kirk, right, right, If you're not up to date, perhaps 579 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 3: you're just tuning in. The authorities have the assassin of 580 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk in custody. He is, predictably but horrifyingly a 581 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: twenty two year old who became more and more political, 582 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: expressed strong dislike of Charlie Kirk and clearly is the shooter. 583 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 3: He was between family and friends who the authorities were 584 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 3: alerted that it was him, you know, and the messages 585 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 3: scratched on the shell casings were as they were described 586 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 3: to the law enforcement memo we brought you yesterday. 587 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: This has got to fit in some the graph we 588 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: were just talking about where in nineteen seventy five you 589 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: had dang near half of people under the age of 590 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: thirty four who had reached all four adult milestones of 591 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: moved away from their parents in the labor force, married, 592 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: had kids. Now it's eight percent. As Joe was talking 593 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: about how it changes your life when you have kids 594 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: and you become a grown you're just too damned busy 595 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: and plugged into everyday life to get all worked up 596 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: about some of these political things everybody tweets about all 597 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: day long. You don't have time to scroll Twitter, and 598 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, a fume about some nuts comment when you're 599 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: raising kids. 600 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 3: Right right, or we're just working a demanding job or 601 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 3: trying to build a career. The other aspect of this, 602 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 3: because I agree with you one hundred percent, and it 603 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: reminds me, in an odd way of our conversation with 604 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: Topo Padilla about bail bonds and these cash free bails 605 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 3: where you just turn the person loose with a signature 606 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 3: that says they'll come back to court, and they often don't. 607 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 3: What he emphasized was that it was family and friend 608 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: connections that got people to show up in court. The 609 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: people in their lives had chipped in to get them 610 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 3: out pre trial, et cetera, and uh, and it was 611 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: those connections that people value that brought them back to court. 612 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: You have, to a large extent, a generation or two 613 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: of people who. 614 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: Are not directly connected to people much. They have Internet relationships, 615 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 3: But this guy had no longtime girlfriend or fiance or whatever. 616 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 3: I suspect who he knew he would betrayed. He would 617 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 3: betrayed all of her hopes and dreams by doing what 618 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 3: he did. 619 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me that doesn't keep you in line, 620 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: of course, it does. 621 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 3: Relationships, connection to other human beings. How about a Scout troop? 622 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 3: What would a Scout troop think of him? I doubt 623 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 3: he had a Scout troop? What about the members of 624 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,479 Speaker 3: his church? 625 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: Forget it? 626 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: How about to you know, the place he volunteered for, 627 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 3: you know, extra credit in the high school. What would 628 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 3: they think of it? No, I bet he was a 629 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 3: fairly disconnected person. 630 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. When you're connected, you got 631 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: you got a lot more social pressure to not do 632 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: the crazy stuff in a healthy way. In a healthy 633 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: I don't want to let down the people who respect me. Yeah, 634 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: that has a good point that should be discussed more often. 635 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: You missed the segment of the podcast. We got a 636 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: lot more to come, Armstrong and Getty