1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the program. Always a pleasure on 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: a Thursday night to talk football any night of the week, 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: but especially on Thursday because we that's Mark vandermir John Harris, 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to General, John McClain, Sports Radio six ten, Sports 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Radio six ten dot Com, the Utopia Football Podcast. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: Among other things. General, how's it going. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: It's going great. I'm ready for training camp. Can't wait. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: So many fun things to watch. A lot of people 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: don't like being out in the heat. I do. I've 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 3: been in Texas my whole life, and he doesn't bother 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: me because you get the sweat and I love the sweat. 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 3: So I can't wait to see Miko, Bobby Slowly, mag Burke, CJ. Stroud, 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: Will Anderson Jr. And all the new players. 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's obviously exciting to see the new players. Think 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: the fans are gonna be excited to see the rookies, 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 4: no doubt. General, you mentioned some of those players that 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 4: you're really excited about seeing outside of CJ and the quarterbacks. 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 4: What's probably the biggest storyline to you heading into this 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 4: training camp? And what number is this? I know we're approaching. 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: My first one was in nineteen seventy seven, So this. 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 4: Is forty seven training camps. I don't know. I can't 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 4: do it. 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: Count I don't know. 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 4: I can't do math. I never I never could. But 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: your storyline going in outside of CJ, what's probably the 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 4: biggest storyline or the biggest thing that you want to 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: kind of pay attention to early in camp. 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that in my idea to 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: have a columnist sports Radio six ten dot com bout 30 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: ten things Tomiko needs to achieve in training camp, and 31 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: there's something at every position. You know, it seems weird. 32 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: The position of me that is the most set is 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: safety with Jalen Patrie and Jimmy Ward and veteran backup 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: Saric Murray and MJ. Stewart. Now they may keep another 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: one because they're top heavy at corner. But the one 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: thing I want to see, they paid it dearly to 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: get Will Anderson Jr. And he is the best defensive 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: prospect to the draft. A lot of people had him 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: as the best prospective overall. You know, he's favored to 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 3: be NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year. And will he 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: be a double digit sack guy as a rookie? And 42 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: he should and If he's as good as everybody thinks 43 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: he is and he was at the University of Alabama, 44 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: then he would be the first SIS JJ Watt at 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: sixteen in twenty eighteen. I can't wait to watch him 46 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: and the ends overall, because John t. Gernard last year 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: of his contract, he's been hurt way too much. Guys 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: have a history of staying healthy in the last year 49 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: of their contracts, and John could be playing for big 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: money from somebody, And then can Jerry Hughes stay in 51 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: that founder of you to give them three good pass 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: rushers coming off the edge because it all starts up front. 53 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: And the other thing We're not going to know this 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: till the season starts. Will they finally be able to 55 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: be respectable against the rud They've been an embarrassment the 56 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: last four years. 57 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: Biggest improvement offense or defense This year. 58 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: The secondary and the past coverage statistically was pretty good, 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: among the best in the NFL, and a lot of 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: that had to do with the way Lovely Smith played zone. 61 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: He wanted the ball always to be in front of 62 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: the players and them to be looking at the ball 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: instead of turning and running it. Receivers having to adjust, 64 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: but I think you've got to run it better. Damian 65 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: Pearson needs to stay healthy. Devin Singletary could turn out 66 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: to be neck Casario's best free agent signing if he 67 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: can give him about a sixty thirty five split and 68 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: catch most of the passes. No need for Damian Pierce 69 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: to take a beating catching the ball because he's going 70 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: to take a beating with his running style. So they 71 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: had to run the ball better and we more consistently, 72 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: and a lot of that has to do. Last year 73 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: was the fact that Piers got hurt. They didn't have 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: anybody and then they have to stop the run better. 75 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: And I'm not exactly sure how they're gonna do that, 76 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: but if they don't, they're gonna be spinning their wheels. 77 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 4: Generally mentioned the secondary, and there was some activity this 78 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: offseason on social media from a secondary member and it 79 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 4: kind of raised some eyebrows of what was going on. 80 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 4: Sheqi Griffin was added a corner. Kobe Francis, the second 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: year guy that could look at has got some ability. 82 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: How do you think this plays out in the secondary. 83 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: Do you think Steven Nelson holds out? How do you 84 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: kind of think this plays out at the corner? Position. 85 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: In particular, if you're thirty years old going into your 86 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: Knights here and you hold out at corner, you're stupid 87 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: because you're not gonna get a big contract. You know, 88 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: maybe they've been asking for a one year extension. Give 89 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: him a little more money somewhere, move it around. He 90 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: played well last year, but they got depth divier. Thomas 91 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: was tremendous in the slot. Angley went out and ed 92 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: to just with Desmond King, the psychic King played well 93 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: and then Stingley stay healthy of course, and uh Nick 94 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: Asio's first news conference at training camp, I'm gonna ask him, 95 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 3: is your blue vest in the cleaners or is it 96 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: just too hot? Now? I hope most people in the 97 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: media will understand when I say that, based on what 98 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: Stephen Nelson. Nelson posted about him wearing that blue vest 99 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: and calling him a name, and I'm sure next got 100 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: a good sense of humor, he'll understand. But uh, that's 101 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: a pretty stupid thing to do when you're trying to 102 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: get another another year or two on your contract. 103 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: Well, John and I are very heavily invested in Nick 104 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: Cassio because we once both wore vests. Here for an 105 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: interview with Nick was Nick wearing a vest that day too. 106 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: I hope he was, because that would have been weird 107 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: if we were both wearing vests and he was. But anyway, general, 108 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: how will they handle the quarterback reps? How are these 109 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: going to be divvied up at the beginning of camp? 110 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: We all know where it's going eventually, but how soon 111 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: and how will they handle it to start training camp? 112 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: I wish I had a blue vest. I'd wear it 113 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: to the first day in practice. I just don't have one. Well, 114 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: first of all, Dimiko told us in his last news 115 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: conference after the off season program that the starter would 116 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: play out. We all knew, we all know and that CJ. 117 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: Strouds is going to be the starter. Davis Mills knows it, 118 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: Case Keenham knows it. That their teammates know it, coaches 119 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: know it, Drive Johnson, Bobby Slowick, they all know. And 120 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: so I'm guessing they're not going to annoy him right away. 121 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: I'm guessing they're just my opinion, then after those joint practices, 122 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: because they don't want to say, Okay, he's the starter 123 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: and then have him go into joint practices and now 124 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: look good because he might struggle when he plays that 125 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: first game in New England, depending on how much Bill 126 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: Belichick plays his defensive starters. So I'm guessing before the 127 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: last game against New Orleans that we'll see him as 128 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: a starter, and maybe it'll be before that, but we 129 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: all know it's gonna happen, not if but a win. 130 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: And I think it would be good for Stroud just 131 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 3: to have that pressure off his shoulders because we'll interview 132 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: in We're gonna be asking him about it, and we're 133 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: gonna be asking Tom go about it. After every single practice. 134 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: Generally mentioned CJ. Stroud and the guys that he gets 135 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: to throw to have not gotten a lot of, let's say, 136 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: good run from national media, in particular, if there were 137 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: any wide receiver rankings, Power rankings NFL, typically the Texans 138 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: we're thirty two at the receiver position. But I've thought 139 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: about this. I feel like it's not gonna be number 140 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: thirty two, but it's a unit that could really be 141 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 4: a lot better than we think. John Metchi Pet actually 142 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: coming back. We'll wait to see when he comes back. 143 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 4: Tank Dell's got obviously some explosiveness of Nico say healthy. 144 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: Those are a lot of ifs, But how do you 145 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: look at this receiver position. And lastly, who do you 146 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: think leads from the receiver group leads that group in receptions? 147 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 4: Not Dalton Schultz, Becau. That's why I think will lead 148 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 4: the team. But who do you think from the receiver 149 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 4: group leads the team in receptions this year? 150 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: First of all, they're gonna that's gonna be a position 151 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: will be targeted next next year in the all season program. 152 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: And when people look at it from AFAR, I understand it. 153 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: Robert Woods coming off a bad season, cut after one 154 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: season with the Titans, Nico Collins can't stay healthy. John Matschee, 155 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: the third had to fight cancer and recover from a 156 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: torn ACL. They don't know much about Tank. He's five 157 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: to eight and one sixty five. Noah Brown had his 158 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: best season with the tight Cowboys the first time he 159 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: got to play a lot and Xavier hutch and Xavier 160 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: Hutchinson was great that I will stayed, but they he 161 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: was a sixth round pick, so there's no playmakers there. 162 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: I believe that it's going to be Robert Woods. He's 163 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: a season removed from a torn ACL and he was 164 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: playing really well for the Rams when he suffered at 165 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: torn ACL. So last year is that proverbial, you know, 166 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 3: get adjusted mental a year after major surgery. I think 167 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: because he's a veteran, because he works closely with C. J. Stroud, 168 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: I think that will develop great rapport in passing situations, 169 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 3: plutch situations. He's gonna know that Woods is going to 170 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: be in a place he's supposed to be, So I 171 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: think it'll be Robert Woods. And the one that I'd 172 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: say keep an eye on is Noah Brown six two 173 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: two fifteen. He can play inside or outside in a 174 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 3: really good off season program. 175 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: General, we'll get back to the Texans situation and they 176 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: don't have to deal with this kind of situation for 177 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: another year or two with Damian Pierce. But the running 178 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: back market talk out there there with Sakwan Barkley and 179 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: others being so vocal about it about the running backs 180 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: not getting these long extensions. Is this sort of a 181 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: hangover from say, Zeke getting paid and maybe not panning out. 182 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: The way they wanted it paid. 183 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, Derek Henry got paid, But you can't say 184 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: that's a bad thing. 185 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 3: So Henry only makes twelve and a half million, Yeah, 186 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: you know, the guy makes all the Money's Christian McCaffrey 187 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: sixteen and a half million, and he was not the 188 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: same player after his major knee surgery with the Panthers. 189 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: Then he goes to the forty nine ers and he's great. 190 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: A lot of theys do with playing on an offense 191 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: with so many playmakers because you can't focus on one player, 192 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 3: and I think this on the running backs. The galactive 193 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: bargain ring is the reason it's happening because teams are 194 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: able to do that. You can't pay everybody, and Matt 195 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: Miller of ESPN pointed out, you keep a guy for 196 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: five his first round, picking franchising twice. That means next 197 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: year Saquon Barkley and Josh Jacobs could go from ten 198 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: to one to twelve five or something because they get 199 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 3: the raise, and so then there'd be seven years with 200 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: their teams, and then the teams could just let them 201 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: go like they did Zeke Elliott, who's still only twenty seven, 202 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 3: and then draft or sign a young guy and let 203 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 3: them come in. And it's a cruel world, I know. 204 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: Mike Florio speculated analytics has something to do with it, 205 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: because analytics can point out how you can win without 206 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: having a great running back or paying a great running 207 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: back a lot of money. Jacobs didn't help the Raiders, 208 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: they were terrible. Barkley helped the Giants, Begumonga's surprise and 209 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: getting the playoffs. And Derrick Henry. You know, anybody's worth 210 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: it to me, it's not Christian McCaffrey, it's Henry. Now, 211 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: Henry's twenty nine and the last year of his second contract, 212 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: so he'll be thirty next year. You know, Mike Rabell's 213 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: gonna run him and run him and run him some 214 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: more and get the most out of him he can. 215 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 3: And then Derrick Henry could be looking for another job 216 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 3: at thirty next year, taking a minimum. 217 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 4: And probably finding not quite the market he even had 218 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 4: a few years ago. I mean he signed. I mean 219 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 4: you you would think Derrick Henry as you looked at 220 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: that two year I think it's two year, twenty five 221 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: million dollar deal that he signed, that was his quote 222 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 4: unquote second contract. You're like, man, that's stealing in some 223 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 4: sense for what for what Tennessee gets out of him. 224 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: And I think that's what the running backs are all arguing, 225 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: is like, man, this is all a whack. We provide 226 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 4: way more value than what we're getting. Is a percentage 227 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 4: of the salary of the team and all that kind 228 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 4: of stuff. But I know people don't love to hear 229 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: contract talk, but uh, away we goes. 230 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 3: It should be complaining of full bags. They're being faced 231 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 3: the NFL. They're done getting a tied end like Evin 232 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: Ingram get a deal for more money than a running 233 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: back like Jacobs or Barkley, who's gonna contribute more to 234 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: their teams this year and help them win. It's gonna 235 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: be the running backs not having Ingram. 236 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 4: And I think part of that, too, John, is the 237 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: fact that, and you mentioned it. You mentioned the two 238 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: things tight end and running back, you get kind of 239 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 4: pigeonholed in. Look, McCaffrey catches what eighty pas. I mean 240 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 4: he caught eighty eight passes one year, So I mean 241 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 4: he's got receiver value on top of having running back value. 242 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: So I think that's part of it. It's like Kyle Eustcheck. 243 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: You know, he's a quote unquote fullback, but he does 244 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: so much for that forty nine Ers team. He's as 245 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: valuable as anybody and gets paid like it. General. The 246 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: Indianapolis Colts put out a picture of their new Indiana 247 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 4: Knights uniform a how bad. Is it be? What's the 248 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: best alternate uniform you've seen this summer of teams wearing 249 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three. 250 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: Well, I haven't seen it, but my favorite throwback uniforms 251 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 3: are the Chargers. Just ever since the Chargers came out 252 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: and I was a kid, I've loved those uniforms. I'm 253 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: glad that Texans are gonna wear those battle red helmets 254 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: for three games. Those things are great. I wish they 255 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: could wear them for every game. And the proback uniforms 256 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: that the Texans are not gonna like, No Texans don't care. 257 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: Houston fans and media won't like is when they see 258 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins wearing Columbia blue when the Titans played the 259 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: Texans in Nashville during the sea late in the season. 260 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: There have been some pictures of those floating around today too. 261 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: Oh really? 262 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: And number twenty two with Henry on the back, Number 263 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 4: thirty one with Bayard on the back, okay, and on 264 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: the collar. On the collar, get this, it says love 265 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: you blue. 266 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: All right. That's too much. That's too much. In general, 267 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go here. I think this is a lot. 268 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: Of whining by the organization because people in Nashville, correct 269 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. They don't give a flip about 270 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: Columbia Blue and Love Your Blue and the oilers. 271 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: And it's their throwback uniform. Yeah, but so what they 272 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: throwback uniform. You gotta wear what your team used to wear, 273 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: and that's the that's the Columbia Blue. Now. Typically the 274 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: fans in Nashville, they think their throwback uniforms Tennessee Oilers, 275 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: which they wore the first two years before they switched 276 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: to the Titans, got the new stadium, new facility, new uniforms, 277 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: they always had a part of Columbia Blue. Bud Adams 278 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: insistent on it. But as far as Amy Adams drunk, 279 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: the owners and others are concerned, you know, their throwbacks 280 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: to the oilers. Texans have nothing to do with the oilers. 281 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. But you know, Love You Blue has 282 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: a lot to do with Houston. And you're summoning this 283 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: bond between a city and a team and you're kind 284 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: of dangling it in front of the fans that still 285 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: remember I don't like it at all. But let me 286 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: ask you this. You've been around for a long time, 287 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: so have I, and I've seen uniforms and go you 288 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: have the Seahawks retro uniform. It's funny because when they switched, 289 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: everyone thought. 290 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: Oh, great idea to switch. This is badass, this is great. 291 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: And now, oh, the old uniform is cool again, just 292 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: like I lived in New England when the Patriots used 293 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: to play with the old pat Patriot on the side 294 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: of the helmet, and they couldn't wait to get rid 295 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: of those uniforms. And now they're the hottest thing ever 296 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: when they bring them out again, everything old is new again, 297 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: am I right? 298 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: What about the Buccaneers. They're going back to peaches and 299 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: everybody hated those colors and now they're like, yeah, I 300 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: don't like the Seahawks' current uniforms that they switched to. 301 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 3: There's a lot of them. You know. Maybe it's just 302 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: because I'm old and I love nostalgia. I used to 303 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: think a lot of those uniforms were great. And I've 304 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: always liked the Texans uniforms. I liked the combination of red, 305 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: white and blue that Bob McNair insisted on. I love 306 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: the shade of it. And I'm glad when the Texans 307 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: their new uniforms at the Draft next year, they're gonna 308 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: have the same colors. 309 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: We'll see about that. Surprised. I'm just just dangling stuff, 310 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: you know, there. 311 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 3: Will be no surprise. 312 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 4: Well, it'll be surprised what it looks like. 313 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna be different, though, they've gotta be a little different, so. 314 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: We'll be different. They'll just be the same colors. Any 315 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: other colors you might be hoping for, that's dead. 316 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: W Well. The other thing is the Chargers. They kind 317 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: of wear the throwbacks now and when they flash highlights 318 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: of Dan Fouts and Air Coriel. That was the era 319 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: in the early eighties, late seventies where people thought we should. 320 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: Go back to the old uniforms. But now those are 321 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: cool again. That's probably that should be their throwback. Like, yeah, exactly. No, 322 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: no one seemed to like their new uniform Their new 323 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: uniforms stink. 324 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 325 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 4: The ones they wore in the Super Bowl, the one 326 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 4: they lost. 327 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: To the Saint Louis were terrible. 328 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like those, the ones that they wore in 329 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, the lost to the Patriots in eighteen. 330 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: Those old school the Warren Bay. Yes, heaven can wait. 331 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 4: The Rams should there should be a government like amendment, 332 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 4: like they have to wear those uniforms like a new 333 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 4: one stink playing at the college. They wear a color 334 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 4: called bone. 335 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: They they wore. 336 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Three four different kinds of uniforms. They must have been 337 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: breaking league rules. I can't imagine, say darn baty. 338 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: You better say that's from the movie Heaven Can Yes, 339 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: Heaven Can Wait. Of the people watching and listening will 340 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: know what you're talking. 341 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: It's actually a very watchable pen sports movie. Yeah, it's 342 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: a very watchable sports movie. You can get it online. Uh, 343 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: Heaven Can Wait with Warren Beatty and a bunch of other. 344 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: Accurately in the day. 345 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: Yes, speaking of the Rams general, how much you buying this? Uh, 346 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: Matt Stafford not taking a pay cut, not happy with 347 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 4: the Rams, kind of stuff that's been floated out of LA. 348 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: You buying any of this with Matt Stafford in the Rams. 349 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: I'm sure they asked him to take a bake because 350 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: they're giving him sixty guaranteed this year, and he refused. 351 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: I don't blame it, why would he, But buying all 352 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: this other stuff involving it, I buy it is about 353 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: as much as I buy the bs that the Astros 354 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 3: are gonna get. Dylan Ceci and Lewis Robert from The 355 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: White Sauce which is one of the dumbest things of it. 356 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny with the Astros trade talk. This 357 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: reminds me of when I was on the air every 358 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: day at sports Radio six ' ten. 359 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: We get trade scenarios. 360 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: And so he's like, can we trade our third string 361 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: whatever for a top notch pitch? You get all this 362 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: stuff like the other team's gonna take it. 363 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 4: Really sports, Yeah, it's it's in the game. 364 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice. 365 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: But Adams always said it takes two to tango, and 366 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: that's not what he meant, but you know what, it 367 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: does take two to tango. 368 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely general. 369 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: What about the show Quarterback on Netflix, it's a big hit. 370 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: You got the Holmes, you have Kirk Cousins, you have 371 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. And I don't know what you guys think, 372 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: but to me, the Cousin storyline is it's very compelling 373 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: because he's very good, but just not quite good enough 374 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 1: to get you over the hump. And maybe it's not 375 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: just him, maybe it's a team thing, but man, he's 376 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: won a lot of games in this league. 377 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: He's won a lot of games. He's made a whole 378 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: lot of money. He was drafted after RG three, who 379 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: was great as a rookie than got hurt. It was 380 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: never the same. The one that I don't like Mariota, 381 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: I wouldn't put him in there. He quit on his 382 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 3: team last year, just quit on his team. He didn't 383 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 3: deserve that kind of publicisty. I don't care how good 384 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: he is. There's too many other compelling quarterbacks and I 385 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: can't wait to see the next lineup. And I'm curious 386 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 3: to see if any other agents or teams would tell 387 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: their quarterback. But you know, there's a lot of exposure 388 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: there and those guys kind of reached up, cut a 389 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: vein and bled for that for Peyton Manning's company Home 390 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 3: all productions. But it's great and they're going to renew it, 391 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: and I can't wait to see you the next group 392 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: are John. 393 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: With it being eve week of training camp, it's all 394 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: happening starting Wednesday, and we'll be out there and you'll 395 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: be joining us. We're broadcasting in a new location. Don't worry, 396 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: we'll come get you and find you and we'll work 397 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: it all out. 398 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: So where are you broadcasting? 399 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: It's outstanding. We're at the fifty yard line with the fans. 400 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: On the fans side of things, it's gonna. 401 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: Be awes kind of like in London. 402 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like in don't get me started with London. 403 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 4: But what we could stand up? I suppose I wish the. 404 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 2: Weather was like in London. 405 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: Oh general, what what is your favorite never mind how 406 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: good the team was, but your favorite training camp? Does 407 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: it go back to the days of San Angelo? Is 408 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: it the Junction Boys, No, you weren't there. Was it 409 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: the Greenbrier? What was your favorite training camp to cover? 410 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: I love when the Texans went to the Greenbrier and 411 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: the Browns are there. And I've been given Tony GROSEI 412 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: covered Browns thirty five years. I've given him all my 413 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: favorite restaurants. He's staying at the Fairfield End where I was, 414 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 3: and I told him how much fun. I said, make 415 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: sure you take a jacket. Is going to be cold 416 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 3: in the morning. You can wear shorts. Told him about 417 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: the rain. My first I love San Antonio. San Antonio 418 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: is the best place I've ever been. The o others 419 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: went there. You get to go to Trinity, one of 420 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 3: the nicest colleges in the country. He got to eat 421 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: in the faculty dining room that was up on a 422 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: hill where you looked at downtown in the distance, and 423 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: mainly I got to play free golf anywhere I wanted 424 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: in San Antonio, and anybody that played with me got 425 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: to play free. And I got a double sized room 426 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 3: at the Marriotta on the Riverwalk for the media rate 427 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: at the airport and played golf every day two day practices. 428 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: Jack Party had practiced seven am and seven pm, so 429 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: we had time to work during the day, play golf, 430 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: get all their work done, and you didn't have much 431 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: to do at night. She had some kind of news 432 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: and I just loved San Antonio was fabulous. And my 433 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: first camp seventy seven was in Nacadocia's the only year 434 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 3: they ever went there, and they weren't prepared for the 435 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: heat in the piny woods where all the big trees 436 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: that Stephen F. Fauston kept all the heat. In thirty 437 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: six players had spend the night in the hospital getting 438 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: ived that year. And they moved after that to San Angelo. 439 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: And I'll never forget that first one because where they 440 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 3: were it was hot oran anything I have ever experienced. 441 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: So they went to the cool summer breezes of San Angelo. 442 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: I get it general. 443 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: What temperature drops in San Angelo between the days and 444 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: at night more than any city in Texas. Oh, really 445 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: thirty degrees because the Santa Ana winds will blow through there. 446 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 3: Players used to go outside the dorm and just sit 447 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: around as the breeze came through before they had to 448 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 3: get up and do two hours of double two two 449 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: hours in the morning, two hours in the afternoon. 450 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: So it's far enough west to get that. That is 451 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: interesting stuff. I figured it would still be hot as 452 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: haities General, what are you working on on sports radio 453 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: six ten dot com, et cetera. 454 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 3: I have a column on sports Radio six ten dot 455 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: com which is free, free, free about ten things the 456 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: Texans need to accomplish in training camp. I have an 457 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 3: astro's column, and I'm looking forward to seeing you guys 458 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: at training camp. It's always a lot of fun. People 459 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 3: are more fired up than any training camp under Bill 460 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: O'Brien because they didn't like Bill, and people ask me 461 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: if they ever been as fired up. Well, of course, 462 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 3: the first one in O two. They'll never duplicate that, 463 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 3: but the one with Gary Gary Kubiak coming home with six. 464 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: This is the most punk people have been since Kubiak's 465 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: first win in. 466 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: Six Outstanding General, Thanks a lot of the time. 467 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: We appreciate hean you guys very much as always. 468 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: All right, coming up, John Harris and I play Who's Better? Yeah, 469 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: that show the Quarterback's gonna come up in this and 470 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: the Wide Receiver R among other things on Texans Radio. 471 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: Great to have you listening tonight to Texans Radio. Mark 472 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: VanderMeer and John Harris with you. Great to have the 473 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: general lot as well. In the last segment. This show 474 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: will be up on pods soon enough, so you can 475 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: listen to that if you missed it. 476 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: And Johnny, He's right. People are so fired up. 477 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: I've been talking to radio affiliates around the state and 478 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: they say the level of interest in the markets around 479 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: the state, all over this great lone star state of 480 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: ours has not been this high in a long time. 481 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: In some cases maybe ever. It's hard to judge those things, 482 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: but you could feel the buzz, you can feel the electricity. 483 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: Everybody's super pumped up. 484 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely. It's weird because it's almost like every single 485 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 4: stop kind of along the way, like okay, coaching change, 486 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 4: all right, what's gonna happen? Oh, tomko Ryans, Oh, I'm listening. Okay, 487 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 4: free agency, you got some money spent? What are we 488 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 4: gonna do? And that was a little bit of a 489 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 4: slow burn because it was like every single day it 490 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 4: was like, wait, Devin Singletary and Adult Schultz and we 491 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 4: traded for shak Mason, but we just signed Shed. So 492 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 4: it was like free agency climbed and then you get 493 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 4: to the draft and you have Thursday night of the 494 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: draft where it's CJ backed up by Will and you're 495 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 4: like yo. Then you know along the way, you've got 496 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: some contracts and you've got Laramie's extension done. You got 497 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 4: that taken care of. So it's all this momentum and 498 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 4: then you know, we we go out and we watched 499 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 4: this team in OTAs in mini camp, but we could 500 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: just see a much improved team from from what it's been. 501 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I mean you can feel the hope 502 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: growing as you as you go through. And you know, 503 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 4: maybe the biggest domino was Demico and that kind of 504 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 4: kicked things off, but I think there were kind of 505 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 4: some things moving in that direction already. I think Tomko 506 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 4: was just I mean, that was that was huge for 507 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 4: a lot of people to go that's the guy we 508 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: believe in as a player. We think that's exactly what 509 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 4: this team needs. And look, it may work, it may 510 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: not work out, it may be an und spectacular failure. 511 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: But sitting here right now, I don't see that happening. 512 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 4: And I feel really a lot of hope that he 513 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: is here working with Nick Cassaria to build this team 514 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 4: for twenty twenty three and beyond. Yeah, I can absolutely 515 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 4: I get that. Everybody I talk to it's the word 516 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: that you man. I'm so hopeful. Man, this is really cool. 517 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 4: It's not like it's been the last couple of years 518 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 4: where people would tell you and me and I would 519 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 4: get tweets, John, I love you. I just can't do 520 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: it this year. It's a completely different ball game. Exactly. 521 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 4: That's good. Exactly. 522 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: Well, look last year, you're one and eleven at one point. 523 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen this year, right, Okay, Freezing Cold 524 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: Takes just recorded. 525 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 2: That, But I doubt that happens this year. 526 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 4: I won't tell you. 527 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: Let's play who's better? Now, Okay, let's do it. Who's better? 528 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: Better storyline other than quarterback? Texans offense or Texans defense? 529 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: Better storyline? I'll say the early going here camp, getting 530 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: into the season, I. 531 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 4: Think it's Texans offense. I think there's just a lot. 532 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 4: There's a lot happening with this Texans offense. You know, 533 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 4: I think with the defense, with the Miko and Matt 534 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: Burke running the defense, you know, there's experience there, guys. 535 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 4: You know, Matt Burke was a DC for two or 536 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 4: three years, Dueko has been a DC for the last 537 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: how many of a years since Sala has been with 538 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: the New York Jets. So you've got experience over there, 539 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 4: you don't. You know, obviously Wills Will's added to the mix, 540 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 4: but you've got experience in nearly every position. So you 541 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: look at the offense and not that I'm turning this 542 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 4: into a negative, I think it's gonna end up being 543 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 4: a positive. But you know, Draw Johnson's quarterback coach for 544 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 4: the first time, Bobby slow it's offense coordinator for the 545 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 4: first time. You could have a you could have a 546 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 4: rookie at quarterback. You could have a rookie and you 547 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 4: could have a rookie quarterback and a rookie center. 548 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 549 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 4: On top of the fact that I did this last night, 550 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: I was finishing up my wide receiver training camp breakdown. 551 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 4: So make sure you're checking those out at Houston, Texans 552 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: dot com. I think quarterback is posted. There'll be a 553 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: few others. I got one more to do. They're all 554 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: in the can. They're just gonna be popping out to 555 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: make sure you go check those out Houston Texans dot com. 556 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: And I was looking at the receivers. How many receptions 557 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 4: total receptions from last year do we have returning this year? 558 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 3: Oh? 559 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: Total receptions receptions. You've got Nico's thirty seven. Uh, you've 560 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: got Ray Rogers, Jordan, you got Amri. I'm talking about receivers, 561 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: just receivers. Got Amri Rodgers twelve? 562 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: Uh? 563 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: Did did camp catch anything? 564 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 4: That's it? That's fifty. That's fifty. You have fifty receptions returning. 565 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: Whereas think about the Bengals have returning, think about what 566 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 4: the Chiefs have returning, think about the Bills have returning 567 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 4: at those particular as a ch So my point in 568 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,239 Speaker 4: that is, with receiver, it's not as if you've got 569 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 4: a bunch of rookies playing, but you might. I mean 570 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 4: if you consider Mechi in hopefully you know Mechi posted 571 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: a picture on Instagram in his uniform and it was like, 572 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: is that is that the is that the bats? 573 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: I missed this? 574 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 4: He did? Yeah, in hads. Yeah, in his jersey and pads. 575 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 4: It might have been just a one of the media 576 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 4: day's picture. Yeah, but he's got to that's a good sign. Hey, 577 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 4: that's that's the kind of I thought that was the 578 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: bat signal right there. 579 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: I got excited and Johnny if Mechi's out there day one, 580 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: the fuggest story that is. 581 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 4: I started thinking about this mark. We you and I 582 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 4: have been there for David Quisenberry's first day back and 583 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 4: Drey Hole's first day back. 584 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 585 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 4: I remember Dre house first first game back. I mean, 586 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 4: we could. You can't forget. It's twenty eighteen at Jacksonville. 587 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 4: It's the bus game, but it's also drey How's return 588 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: that week. And I remember right before, uh you you 589 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 4: threw it down to me. I see Dre on the 590 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 4: sidelines and I give him a huge, I mean huge hug, 591 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm emotional for him. I can't imagine 592 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 4: what that's gonna be for John Mechi, those guys. I mean, 593 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 4: I guess, you know, DQ had not really played in 594 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 4: the NFL. Dre had, so you know, he kind of 595 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: bounced back into a game. But for David, it was 596 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: getting to his first NFL action. That was really gonna 597 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 4: be incredible. It's gonna be a big lift of the whole. 598 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: So fingers crossed. That's that was kind of the bats 599 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 4: and hopefully we get good good news on that over 600 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 4: the next few days that he is going to be 601 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 4: ready to go for Day one. But essentially, he's a 602 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 4: rookie in the field. Tank Dell's a rookie on the field. 603 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 4: Xavier Hutchinson rookie on the field. So but you've got 604 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 4: a mix of veterans in there too, So I think 605 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 4: there's gonna be a lot of storylines because wide receiver 606 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: is a sexy position. You'd like to talk about that. 607 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: We'll figure out what happens in the interior line. So 608 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 4: I think it's offense, all right. 609 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: Who's better better receiving group? Bear with me? 610 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: Now, better receiving group, the Houston Texans or the Tennessee Titans. 611 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: Now before just receivers, Just receivers, before people go crazy here. 612 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: Of course, DeAndre Hopkins has joined the Tennessee Titans. We 613 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: know this, so he's the best receiver among both groups. 614 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: We get it, most accomplished Robert Woods here instead of there. 615 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: And after that it gets interesting because who do you 616 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: have here, you have trailing Burke's over there. How good 617 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: is he? We don't really know yet, And you have 618 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: a lot of speck here. You have a lot of 619 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: speculation how good some of these young players can be. 620 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: We know Nico's good, like I said the other day, 621 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: when Nico plays, he makes plays. Got Tank Dell coming in, 622 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 1: Xavier Hutchinson, Like you said, We'll see what else the 623 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: rest of the group can do. 624 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: I you know, it's hard to not say the Titans 625 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 4: because of Hop, but again, you don't really you don't 626 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 4: know where Hop is. I heard somebody say this, and 627 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 4: I kind of countered this, like, well, you know, Hop 628 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 4: has played with some below average or average to blow 629 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 4: average quarterbacks before. Yeah, he was also twenty four and 630 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 4: twenty five years old when he was doing that. Yeah, 631 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 4: he's no longer that age. You know, he's now dealing 632 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 4: with Ryan Tannehill and Will Levis. 633 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: How about this ten years ago, he was getting ready 634 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: for his first season, right, he was twenty one, freshly 635 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: twenty one. 636 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: I remember we made a big deal about how young 637 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: he is. 638 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: He's out there and he had that overtime game winning 639 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: catch against the Tennessee Titans in week two, good looking 640 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: rookie campaign for him in a bad season, but a 641 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: good looking season for him, promising season with Andre Johnson 642 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: still on the team. Ten years later, he's thirty one. 643 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: How's it going? What's happening? But Johnny take him off? 644 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: The Titans for a moment before the act? Was it 645 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: not even close? 646 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: The Texans? 647 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that Texans. Okay, if you were 648 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 4: to do a draft, if you did a draft like 649 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 4: one through ten of receivers, you would you go one Hopkins. 650 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 4: Then at number two you might might go Mike go 651 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 4: Berks on spec. But then after that you're gonna go Woods, 652 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 4: Nico Tank, Mechi. You know, you're gonna go all the 653 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 4: Texans guys until you get down to Nick Westbrook Akine, 654 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 4: who's done some things in the league. That's the kind 655 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 4: of guy that I I mean, I like what we 656 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 4: have at receiver, I really do. I know people you know, 657 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 4: poo poo that that group of receivers. I think it's 658 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 4: gonna be a good group that can develop. But man, 659 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 4: I I would love to have a guy like Nick 660 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: Westbrook A Kine. I think he's perfect as the number 661 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 4: three for them. That was the other thing too, receivers 662 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 4: kind of got a I don't want to say they 663 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 4: gotta be This guy's gonna be number one, this guy's 664 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 4: gotta be number two, this guy's gotta be number three, 665 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 4: but just what you're asked to do. Westbroog and Kinne 666 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 4: is the perfect number three. 667 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: But I expected bigger things from him last year than 668 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: he produced. 669 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 4: All Right, that's what I'm saying. He's not a two 670 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: to be able to do that, He's got to be 671 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 4: a three. So Hopkins helps, Burk's and west Virkiny kind 672 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 4: of fit their roles, all right. 673 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: Who's better best storyline of the quarterback series? Is it Mahomes? 674 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: Is it Cousins? Is it Mariota? What's the best storyline? 675 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: The most compelling storyline doesn't mean the best quarterback. Obviously 676 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: that's Mahomes, But what's the best storyline here? 677 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 4: As the documentary went on, I was more and more 678 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 4: intrigued as to what was going on with Cousins. 679 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: Okay, and I am I'm only an episode three or 680 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: four here, I forget I've watched it late at night. 681 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: I guess I like the Cousins storyline to follow. Not 682 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: that I'm a huge Cousins fan, but It's interesting to 683 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: me how he conducts his business, that kind of stuff. 684 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 4: You're exactly where I was two episodes in, two or 685 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 4: three episodes in. It starts to change for me. And 686 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 4: I'm starting to see that on social media too. I'm 687 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 4: starting to see this, you know, instead of oh, Kirk 688 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 4: Cousins can't win the big Game. There's a discussion about 689 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 4: that on the documentary, it becomes more this begrudging respect 690 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 4: for Cousins because you see him get absolute you know what, 691 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 4: beat out of him, and you see the class with 692 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 4: which he has. And I interviewed him back in twenty thirteen. 693 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 4: It was the second year with at the time the Redskins, 694 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 4: and I interviewed him and I found him just to 695 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 4: be awesome. He was very matter of fact about things. 696 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 4: He is stubborn on a certain thing, and you'll find 697 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 4: that out. But I feel like, not the wormst turning 698 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 4: on him. He still has to prove he can win it. 699 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 4: But I feel like that documentary has really made Kirk Cousins, 700 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 4: I don't want to say sympathetic figure, but kind of 701 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 4: a sympathetic figure. 702 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he And I'm not spoiling anything here. 703 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of grunting and pain on the sideline. 704 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: He's like it almost I don't want to say it 705 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: gets comical because it's very serious. But at the same time, 706 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: it's like there's Cousins groaning and grunting again because he's 707 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 1: in such pain during these games, and I never expect 708 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: the ability to take hits. 709 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 4: It was never on the injury report apparently. 710 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, really, are you kidding me? 711 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure Florio is all quickie here, who's better? 712 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: What's better? 713 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: Best storyline to follow moving forward? I'm gonna give you 714 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: two names, Justin Herbert or Tua. All Right, the guys 715 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: this morning, Sewn and Seth came out with I think 716 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: Seth said Mac Jones that would be interesting. Baker Mayfield 717 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: for Sean. But give me a choice here. I'll give 718 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: you those four. 719 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 4: Two or are those four? 720 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 721 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: We want Mac Jones because we want to see what's 722 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: going on inside the building with. 723 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 4: You know, Mac Jones is a pretty interesting one, especially 724 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 4: because Bailey Zappy is there and I think they like 725 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 4: Zappy and I think Mac with you know, Max kind 726 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 4: of volatile, so he's got a volatile ce so that 727 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 4: gets interesting. But I think more pressure is on Justin 728 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 4: Herbert because he's supposed to be God's gift to quarterbacking 729 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 4: in some sense. And the look, I'm just as guilty. 730 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 4: I've put him up there. I think he's wildly talented, 731 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 4: but hasn't come together yet as a team. What have 732 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 4: they done? No, they don't get to the playoffs. Then 733 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,439 Speaker 4: they get to the playoffs and blow a four touchdown lead. Yeah, 734 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 4: they've got to do something or there's going to be 735 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 4: hard times, hard times in LA for the Chuts. 736 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: Most teams would take him in a hot second, absolutely. 737 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: All right, Next up, biggest rule change in college football 738 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: and should the NFL pick it up? We'll discuss its 739 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. All right, let's keep it going here on 740 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. 741 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 2: Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you. 742 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: Rule changes coming down in college football, and Johnny, the 743 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: biggest one and should the NFL adopt this is stopping 744 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: and starting the clock on first downs. And I'm going 745 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: to read it the way I have it here in 746 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: the release from the Powers that be. When Team A 747 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: the offense gains a first down, the clock will no 748 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: longer be stopped to award a first down, except with 749 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: less than two minutes remaining in the second and fourth quarters. 750 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: This change is effective immediately for Division one and Division 751 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: two and will be implemented in twenty twenty four for 752 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: D three. 753 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: I don't know why they have that, but they have 754 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: it in D one. 755 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: The college football we watch the most, they're going to 756 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: have clock rolling after first downs except after two minutes 757 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: to go in the second and fourth quarters. 758 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 2: Should do you like it? First of all? And should 759 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: the NFL adopt this rule? 760 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 4: I like it, but I don't want the NFL say 761 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 4: what it is. 762 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: Ooh really yeah, I really do. 763 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I love the end of games, but I'd 764 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 4: love to watch a team. I mean, you know, of course, 765 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 4: you know, on one side of it, it's like, well, man, 766 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 4: I wish we had a time out. Our wish the 767 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 4: clock would stop on this drive so we could beat 768 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 4: the Titans the next week. It's like, man, I'm glad 769 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 4: that rule doesn't exist. I just feel like the NFL 770 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 4: has more opportunities to work on two minute situations that 771 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 4: they don't need those that clock stop. Just let us 772 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 4: stop it. Too many warning and you got timeouts, that's it. 773 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 774 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 4: For colleges, I think having that time out the last 775 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 4: two minutes of each half is is gonna are the 776 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 4: clock stopping after a first down the last two minutes 777 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 4: and a half. I think that's good. I like that rule. 778 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 4: I think that's great. It'll shorten the games hopefully by 779 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 4: you know, a good ten to fifteen minutes. And I 780 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 4: know some people were like, well, I mean you can 781 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 4: watch the game anyways, but you know what, Look, you're 782 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 4: trying to get a different you're trying to get younger, 783 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 4: younger people involved in watching the game. It's too long, 784 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 4: and it's too long. Yeah, once you get to three 785 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 4: forty five, it's too long. It's you ready, two hours 786 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 4: is long. But once you get to three thirty three 787 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 4: forty five almost four hours, like some games can get 788 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 4: forget it, man, you can't keep stopping the clock with 789 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 4: that clock run. I think it's perfect the way they've 790 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 4: just put it in. Clock stops after first downs the 791 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 4: last two minutes each half. Good. Yeah, I leave the 792 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 4: NFL A loone, leave the NFL loone. Let these guys 793 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 4: are professionals. They should be able to do it without 794 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 4: the clock stopping after first down. 795 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: So clearly they have problems doing it. Yes, they have problems. 796 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: You make a good point, you know what, and I'm 797 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: in favor of this anyway, go back to sudden death 798 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: overtime and make the clock stop inside the final two minutes, 799 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: maybe not of the half, but of the game, second half, 800 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: second half. 801 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, I could see that. 802 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 4: Sudden death overtime. Boy, that's never coming back. 803 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 2: It's never coming back, never coming back. 804 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 4: It is, it's not coming back over time. 805 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: Okay, here it is. Each team gets a possession no 806 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: matter what. After that, we're going to if you tie 807 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: it up, we're going to the two yard line and 808 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna go be. 809 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 4: Like to do in college. Now essentially, essentially we're doing that. 810 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 2: We're doing that. 811 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: We can't be there for an entire overtime period and 812 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 1: have a tie. 813 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 4: Although the first year in college when they went to 814 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 4: that rules and in college now you go to twenty five, 815 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 4: you played out. Then second over time, you go to 816 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 4: twenty five, you played out, but you have to go 817 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 4: for two right third overtime you go right to the 818 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 4: two yard line. The first year they did that, Illinois 819 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 4: Penn State played nine over times because they couldn't score 820 00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 4: from the two. 821 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but at least there on the stats go crazy 822 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: two yard run or whatever, and I like it that 823 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: way better. College football was getting crazy, well, well it 824 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: was from the get go. There were crazy games from 825 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: the get go when they adopted overtime, and I'll need 826 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 1: it over time. 827 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 4: All those numbers guy throws are seven touchdowns. Well yeah, 828 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 4: because he played in nine overtimes. 829 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, he needed in bought the twenty five yard line. 830 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: That's a terrible spot situation. 831 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. I didn't like that, so I kind 832 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 4: of like what college football is doing now. It's a 833 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 4: much easier way of doing it. But you're right. Give 834 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 4: each team a possession, then go the two yard line, 835 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 4: battle it out for two point plays. 836 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 1: The other thing about the clock in college football, it's 837 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: always going to be longer because of halftime. You cannot 838 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: shorten halftime in college football, because of the bands and 839 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: the people in the stands needing to get that halftime show. 840 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: It's part of the game, that's part of the tradition. 841 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: I know, the half is long when you're watching a 842 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: TV game compared to the NFL NFL halftime, you barely 843 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: have time to visit the restroom, mean even at home, 844 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: and get back for the second half. It just feels like, 845 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, the old I'm gonna mow the lawn of behalf. 846 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do with the half. And if 847 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: you're watching red Zone, there is no half, right because 848 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: the games keep going no matter what. 849 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 2: They're eternal. 850 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you mean it's I was telling somebody about 851 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 4: you'll know where I'm going with this twenty sixteen at 852 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 4: Tennessee final game of the year, and I had a 853 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 4: little bit of a stomach issue. Man, I just about 854 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 4: missed one of the things I've ever heard in the 855 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 4: locker room, in large part because it was so short. 856 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 4: It was so short, and so anyways, Yeah, it really 857 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 4: is behind a curtain. I get coach coming off the field, 858 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 4: I send it in, I walk down and get a water. 859 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 4: I come in here and I sit for thirty seconds 860 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 4: in the studio and then I go right back out 861 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 4: and there are three minutes leftn o'clock and we got 862 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 4: to get going to the second half. It's like, that's 863 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 4: how fast halftime goes. 864 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 2: Oh, it's so fast. 865 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 1: Credits at the restroom, I grab one bite of food 866 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 1: and that's white literally, and refilled drinks. Back to the booth. 867 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: But I do a little stats thing. Yeah, back half 868 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: of halftime. But even having that six minutes is nice. 869 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Dre's over there with nachos and brisket. 870 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: Drey's over there in the third quarter eating. 871 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 4: And I always I always hear about it too. If 872 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 4: we're go with yeah, if we're going with the radio team, uh, 873 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 4: Dre in the third quarter, like man Mark, these cookies 874 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 4: are great. Meanwhile, I'm downstairs having nothing because I can't 875 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 4: get a. 876 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,959 Speaker 1: Sorry about that. That's gonna do it for the show today. 877 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: Thank you to the general for being on. 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