WEBVTT - The Legendary Stephen Tobolowsky 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.479 And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.119 And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:11.200 Welcome to you, and That's what you Really miss podcast. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:11.520 Kevin. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:12.520 It's such a special day. 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:20.440 We have an icon, legend, film TV superstar Stephen Tablowski. Oh, 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:21.880 Sandy Ryerson. 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:27.000 No introduction. Sandy Ryerson has the craziest stories to share 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.760 with us. Also about his Glee audition. I cannot even 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.839 it's it's so it's so it sounds so far fetched 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:35.920 that you're like, that can't be real, But it's real. 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.960 Leah has always had the craziest audition story, and I 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:44.000 think now this week because yes we met, like it 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.839 took this long to find someone else, but it is 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:48.640 one of the craziest stories I've ever heard. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:50.080 Oh my god. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:55.840 So, without further ado, the amazing Stephen Tablowski. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:57.160 Hello kids. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.640 Oh we are in the presence of greatness. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.160 What what? Oh I'm so happy? 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:07.640 What a joy? 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:13.320 It's it is such It's so good to be back 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:14.560 in this corral again. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.520 That's why we keep doing this. We can't get enough 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.600 of it, you know, we just need to be around 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:23.000 each other. 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:27.480 Oh wow, good to see you. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.280 Good, Good to see you too, guys. Good to see Eachna. 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:34.640 Wow, thank you so much. Your voice just makes me 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.640 feel like I know at home. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:37.440 We're back. 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.959 You guys as everybody. 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.800 Thank you, thank you very much, Thank you God than 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.040 what made you think of doing this Glee thing? 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:00.920 The fans wouldn't leave us alone. No, we were forced 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.400 into it. They berated us and were like, fine, we'll. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.080 Do it, yeah, relentless. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.840 Yeah, but it's worked out. Yeah, we get to talk 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.560 to people like you and reconnect. And because you know, 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.160 you who has worked more than anybody I've ever met 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.880 in my entire life. You've never stopped working. No, I 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.720 don't know. Good for you and your health insurance. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:24.560 Yep, I. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.040 Don't know how you do it, how you have the time. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.880 And you're still so good in every single thing you do, 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.880 up everything, everything you've worked with everyone. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.640 Well yeah, well almost, but but that's because they cut 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.560 me out of all the things I'm not good at, 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.040 you know. That's it's that editing thing, you know, but 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:52.040 it's and the things that you think are going to 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.919 be great, you know, don't turn out to be great. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:56.920 And the things that you think are going to be like, 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.560 oh well this is trouble like Lee, turn out to 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.720 be like legend. 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:03.520 Yes, you know, and you. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.959 Go like, well, what are we doing here? Not here? 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:12.280 Absolutely well, you're you're You're already a veteran of the 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:18.000 of the screen when you joined onto Glee. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:23.600 I'm just curious, though, what the journey was like to 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.760 get you onto the show. Had you worked with Ryan? 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:28.880 Was this an audition? What was this? 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:35.160 You will not believe the story. It is a ridiculously 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:41.560 strange story. I had been horseback riding with my wife 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:46.680 on an active volcano in Iceland and we were hit 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.120 by a gigantic wind off the Atlantic Ocean that lifted me, 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.080 this is all true, lifted me and the horse off 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:57.200 the ground like a tornado carry us, dropped us on 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.240 the side of the mountain. My horse went crazy, started 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:04.000 running like nuts through me, and the last thing I 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:08.200 kind of remember was going sideways through the high grass 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.800 on the side of the mountain, and they found me 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:14.360 in a fetal position on the only dry piece of 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:19.520 lava in this lava plane. The horseback riding team came, 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.200 how does this get to Glee? I know you're thinking, 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:31.000 how So I come back to America and the doctor 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:35.479 tells me that I have a fatal injury and I 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:40.960 tell him words have a meaning means I'm dead. I'm 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.880 not dead. He says, you want to know why you're alive. 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.359 You're alive because most people have a cervical spine that 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:50.839 curves like this, but yours is freakish and it's the opposite. 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.880 So your neck just broke, but you didn't. You did 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.359 not break your spinal cords. You could still walk and everything. 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:03.200 But I had to be absent my poor wife. See, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.040 this is what happens when you make those wedding vows 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.160 and listen in health. You don't know what that's going 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.200 to mean, and you sign on the dotted line. Annie 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.560 had to do everything for me, She had to help 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.159 me do everything. So anyway, the only thing I could 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.800 do is sit out in my backyard for I think 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.880 they say three months every bone takes three months to heal, 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.200 something like that. Two and a half, three months, three 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:31.719 months doing nothing. So I'm out there reading, doing nothing. 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.960 And near the end of my three months, when I 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.239 am still unable to do anything, I get a script 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:44.039 for this show called Lee. My first audition in a 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.400 month's right months and I still have a broken neck. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:53.240 So I read the script and my first impression of 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:58.920 Flee was Oh my god, and all I could say 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:04.680 was so joyful. The script was so fun, so joyful, 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.599 and I'm thinking, like, I call my I call my agent, 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.240 my manager up and I said, I definitely want to 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:17.279 meet Ryan and everybody on this and uh, absolutely no quick. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.279 And I'm thinking, like, how am I going to do that? 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.919 Because I have a damn broken neck, and how much. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.719 Longer do you have to like heal technically, like I. 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.640 Guess I would say I probably still have kind of 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:34.880 like maybe three four weeks oft I still have. I 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.840 still have a wild but we don't exactly know when 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.720 Glee is going to start shooting, you know. So I 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.479 think like, okay, now I can't drive, I can't do anything. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:50.440 So my wife drives me over to the Glee audition 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:56.480 and I get out and I have to have a pillow, 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.640 you know, and I have to be very I go 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:05.680 in and the waiting room you know where, yeah, where 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:09.640 all the man The waiting room is absolutely empty, and 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.960 I think, like this is so weird because everybody on 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.480 earth is going to want to be on this show. 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.280 So I sit on the little casting couch in there, 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.120 and I think, you know what I'm going to do. 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.840 I'm going to lie. I'm gonna lie. And I take 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.840 my neck brace off and I stuff it under the 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.360 casting couch and I just sit there. I just sit 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.880 there like this waiting. I said, I'm not because it's 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.600 a buzzkill. It is a buzzkill when you go in 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.920 on an audition and your horse let alone, you have 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.880 fallen off a horse and you have a broken nare 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.280 the producers just go like me, next thing, you know. 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.760 So I'm sitting in there twenty minutes. Nothing's happening. This 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.640 is so weird. And then Ryan's assistant comes in and goes, Stephen, 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:03.440 we are so sorry. It's the wrong day. Ryan is 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:08.880 doing Niptock today and your audition is tomorrow. And I 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:13.400 go like, oh my god. Now, so I said, now 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.280 I need to tell you this. So my soul was overburdened. 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.400 I said, let me tell you what happened. And I 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.720 told him the whole story of me on the horse 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.400 and the broken neck. And I pulled out the neck 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.440 brace from underneath the thing and put it on, and 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.800 put it on and said, this is what I was 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.720 going to do today. I was going to I was 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.840 going to lie to everybody. And now You've given me 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:39.400 a chance not to lie. And so I go back 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.040 out to the car. My wife has to drive me 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.840 home again and has to drive me out the next time. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:46.600 Oh my god. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:48.920 The next day, I'm out there and I am in 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.640 the room. Now I'm in the room with Ryan and 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.400 all the guy all the producers. 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.760 You have the neck brace on or no, I. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.439 Have it on? And Ryan goes, you know, I heard 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:05.400 a very interesting story about you from yesterday. I heard 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.640 I said, yes, right, I was going to lie on 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.360 the first date. And the thing is, guys, I love 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.920 this show so much. I love the script so much. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.400 What I'm going to do right now, I'm going to 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.040 take this neck brace off, and I'm going to do 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.320 the scene and I'm going to sing a song. And 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.959 if I can't do it, I'm not going to say word. 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.600 I'm just gonna get my neck brace and walk out 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.200 of the room. No harm, no foul. But if I 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.679 can do it, I will stay here and talk to 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.239 you at the end and it won't be a problem. 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.040 I will be able to do it. So I got 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.560 up and I auditioned, I sang my song, and I 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.040 sat there and then at the end everybody was kind 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.920 of laughing, and they were going like, so, I guess 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:52.720 you're okay, because I go, yes, I am fine, I 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.760 am okay. And now I'm gonna put my neck brace 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.640 on if you don't mind. And I put the neck 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.760 brace back on. And then I found out pretty much 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.560 right away they didn't know when they were going to shoot. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.079 And uh and at that time, we were we were 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:13.160 shooting at a school in Burbank. That yeah, we shot 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.960 at the school in Burbank. And then also we went 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.040 to that high school way the hell out in Long 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:25.920 Features correct career and and uh and that was amazing. 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:30.640 But but wow, So that was after I was supposedly healed, 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:36.800 and that it was the broken neck story that probably 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:37.920 got me on the glee. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.920 That is that level of commitment. I've never been that 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.800 committed to anything in my life. My ass had been like, 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.280 you know what, I'm not going to make it in there. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.439 Good luck to you, good and this is why you've 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.319 been in hundreds of things. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:53.480 Broken neck. 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.120 That was it was just, it was just, it was 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:03.720 it was a tripp and and uh, I remember going 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:07.200 out to that place in Burbank. Now, I don't know 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.720 if it freaked you guys out any But the thing 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.400 that amazed me was going to that high school in 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:18.200 Burbank where we shot the first the first kind of 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.880 show and the and the musical number and all that 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.880 stuff on that stage was they rebuilt that stage and 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:34.559 auditorium exactly to scale. Unbelievably. 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.480 It was like, what what kind of budget is this? 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:39.640 It's nuts? 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.120 And we acquired a new sound stage at Paramount to 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.640 build another replica of something we used to film, and 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:48.800 is like, what that's happening here? 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.760 What what was your experience when we started doing it 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:57.000 at the beginning and just rehearsing things. What what did 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.880 you you feel like when when you were doing it? 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:00.840 What was your experience? 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.080 I mean the beginning for us, like when we were 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.079 doing the pilot was obviously as you know you were 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.040 there so different than the rest of the show. But 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:13.120 I think for us, because we were all so green, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:18.439 that it was more about we all bonded really, really hard, 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.760 and then we had weeks of rehearsal and they were 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.600 all trying to figure out what, Yeah, like what is 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:29.359 the system, what is dance rehearsal? What are the recording sessions? 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:34.520 Like nobody really knew what was going on, but I 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:39.560 remember like when you had someone like Ryan who so 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.840 clearly was supported on every level, like by the network 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.679 and studio where I mean, you can tell us if 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.720 you felt this where on set it felt like he 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.360 has as much time. I heard from somebody like, Oh, 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.160 he wants this to be like three weeks or month 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.240 long to film this pilot, and that doesn't normally happen. No, 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.040 and so no, knowing that, in the back of my 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.800 head was like, and Ryan, we trust, so like if 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.960 the execs and the big scary suits are saying he 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.000 can have whatever he wants, then we just need to 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.280 like trust that he knows what he's doing. And clearly, 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:15.240 you know, they were right. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.439 Yeah, we didn't really know what was what was to come, 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.720 and we didn't know what the formula was going to be, 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:26.920 so everybody was just kind of there together figuring it out, 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.240 and we just remember hearing inklings of things. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.840 We also didn't know like how the show was going 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:34.840 to be received, if we. 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.520 Were going to get Greenland or not, and everybody just 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.199 kept saying like, these executives don't usually show. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.720 Up on set like this for a pilot. 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.800 These people don't usually start marketing for you know, during 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:49.640 a pilot or start thinking and strategizing. So it sounded 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.280 very promising to us and we were like, great, we 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.360 just love to see each other again because I moved. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.679 I went back to New York after we finished filming 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.840 the pilot and waited for two months. But yeah, we 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.079 were there for We came in for four weeks before 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.560 we started filming and started rehearsing Don't Stop Believing and 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.120 figuring out background vocals, figuring out our audition songs, the 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.719 ones that aren't in the pilot, and so it was 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.400 all just like a very collaborative process where Ryan would 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:23.400 come in and say yes, no hate it, Yes, absolutely, 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:24.360 that's right. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.640 Change this. You know, he is so clear in his 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:28.960 mind exactly what this. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:36.320 Was going to be that like in Ryan, we trust. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.520 Did you feel like for us when we found out 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.200 that Jane was going to be in it and that 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.440 you were going to be in it, people that we 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:52.120 all knew that were fans of, like that felt like 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:56.000 a really big deal. Yeah, because people like the two 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.640 of you, who are so good and have been in 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.040 so many any great things that like, oh if they're 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.760 a part of this, like if they think this is good, right, 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.800 being like touch and yeah, very much so, and I 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.600 felt like, oh, that's also really like I can brag 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.880 about being on the same show as you or as 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.160 you know, as Jane, because like everybody loves you. So 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:18.680 it was one of those things like guess who else 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.560 is in the show? Like how crazy is that? 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.600 Yeah, the thing I felt, you know, one of the 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.600 benefits of always just trying to work and so like 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:33.120 I did summer Stock outside of Woodstock, New York when 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.480 I was twenty years old, and we had some very 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.120 talented people from New York City that came out to 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:44.080 do musicals there, and we had one week to rehearse 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.920 a show and then you put it up and you 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.600 do it for two weeks while you're rehearsing the next show, 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:54.000 and everybody is working on their songs, everybody is working 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.120 on their dances, everybody is working on their speeches from 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:01.440 Midsummer Night's Dream, walking Walking through the And that was 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:05.000 the feeling I had of Glee at the beginning, working 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.960 on that pipe. Everybody and every corner was working on 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.760 everything they were doing, yes, because it was not like 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.080 doing an LA show. It was not like doing it. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:19.040 It was like doing theater and doing New York Theater, Yes, 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:23.080 not La Theater. It was like it was like everybody 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.120 was working on their stuff every second. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.400 You're so right, Ye're so right. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.200 I never even thought about it because we were so 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.040 used to it, like when we were at those schools. 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.080 Even later on in the seasons, when you were filming 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.360 at other high schools, we were if someone was filming 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.720 in the auditorium, we were on the football field having 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.960 dance or some other or somebody's being bussed off to 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.560 go record. It never stopped. We were all just something 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:47.560 was happening all the time. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.760 And did you sing for your audition? 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.480 Oh? You know, I think I just did some stupid 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.960 song I had just done in Talks and Box. Do 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:01.000 you know that Fernanda and Sullivan musical, you know's the 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:05.160 bag he can on the grid? I'll say, he cant 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:10.280 that and close my eyes something like that, something that 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:14.159 was not of Glee caliber, and and and the but 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:15.720 it was, it was good enough. 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:17.880 It was perfect, Oh yeah for. 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:22.320 Me to be Sandy Ryerson. And but the thing was, 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:29.960 there was no dead weight on that show. Everybody, nobody 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.399 was lazy. Everybody was trying to do their best. And 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:38.320 it's like a very rare time where you know, you 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.960 experience everybody saying I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, as 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.800 opposed to could you give me another twenty minutes here 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.400 having a nap in my dressing room, and I will, yeah, 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:49.359 when I'm ready. 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:50.360 That's very true. 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.800 There's no time for naps now when you're all. 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.480 So excited because it even like, you know, I think 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.159 it means a lot hearing someone like you who like 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.320 read the script and you were excited from the moment 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.720 you read it, where even with a broken neck, you're like, 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.120 I got to figure out how to get in there, 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.120 you know. I think if that doesn't convince you how 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.600 we all felt about reading it, nothing will, because I 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.440 think we all had a very similar, you know, reaction 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.240 to it. Because it's so rare you get to do 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:21.000 something that piques your all your interests like this does, 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.200 and that everybody is willing to just go one hundred 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.719 percent from day one, even into the unknown whatever it 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:28.640 is we're doing, and to. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:32.320 Go full circle in terms of the circle of catastrophe. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:37.560 My last show on Klee, I had just finished having 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:43.720 drum roll open heart surgery. Now three years after the 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:48.080 broken neck, I had to have a triple bypassed open 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:52.840 heart surgery. So anyway, the word kind of got out 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:58.760 and different people reached out and gave me shows. And 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.119 so the guy said, Lee said, We've written the show 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.119 for you to do to make sure I kept my 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.200 insurance and that because I can do it. The show 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:12.560 the last show I did, and I and was in 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:17.040 detention hall and I said, whatever you people do, I've 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:21.760 just had surgery. I'm cut in two. Yeah, I'm being 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.840 held together by staples. Do not have me dance because 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.399 I'm not a dancer anyway, And they had me dance 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:33.840 in detention hall and so I'm like, you know, in 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:35.800 front of the in front of the blackboard. 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:37.479 It was stop. 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:43.639 But I uh take my hat off to uh the 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:47.600 guys at Community. They gave me a show and so 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.639 sweet and Ryan gave me a show right after Community, 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.040 and I'm going like, god, thank you, thank you, thank you, 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.360 thank you guys so much. It was wonderful. 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.320 It was one that's so great, Oh my gosh, because 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:04.560 you're enjoyable work with you know what. Now, now, you 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:08.840 did join a Fellas very early on in this in 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.800 the series. What was that like for you? Were you 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.880 excited to join af of fellas with those guys. What 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:18.320 was that experience? 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:22.600 Like, I was working with some very talented people, and 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:30.439 I remember, uh doing those dance rehearsals for a cafellas 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:35.520 that was like really ridiculous, and doing it for Ryan. Yeah, 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:39.639 you know, I was a particularly bad dancer, and and 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:40.320 you know I was. 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:44.080 You weren't the only particularly bad dancer. 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.840 I was over ampt and and Ryan was just laughing 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.639 his head off and he's going like, Okay, that's really terrible. Okay, 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.080 that's really but you're right, You're right, you know he 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:59.560 was like, yes, no, totally. But the guys could sing 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:01.879 so well. I felt like, well, that's fine. All I 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.439 have to do is kind of just blend in and 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.840 kind of hide in it behind those guys. 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:08.400 Right. 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:10.080 That's when I met Josh. 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.360 Yes, and you gave us one of the most famous 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.359 lines in ever. 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:26.000 Who says Josh and Josh and I this is this 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:31.520 is not so. I meet Josh out in Pasadena or whatever, 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:36.399 and he was saying like, I'm not used to acting 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.080 and doing this kind of thing, and I'm kind of 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:43.960 nervous about the camera, the whole camera thing. And I'm 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:50.240 going like, you gotta be kidding. I said, you don't 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:51.960 have to worry about the camera thing at all because 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:56.119 he's so brilliant. And it's just like I said, you know, 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.680 if you make any mistake of anything at all, they 0:21:58.760 --> 0:21:59.560 just do it again. 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:00.399 You know. 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:04.520 It's not like you know, you're you're juggling glass spheres 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:05.119 or something. 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.000 He can perform live in front of an arena full 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:08.520 of people. 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:13.080 But you know, wow, god, but he what what? What 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.480 a guy? What a guy? That was? That was amazing? 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:16.400 That was amazing. 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:19.160 Did you have any idea when you came on originally 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:25.040 for the pilot, because Sandy Ryerson left quite the impression certainly? 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.920 Did you know that you know if the show got 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:31.000 picked up that Ryan and co. Wanted to have you 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:32.960 back for more or was it sort of the show 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:35.120 gets picked up and they're writing these episodes and like, hey, 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:38.080 actually can you come back again and again and again? 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:40.880 Yeah? Well no, you know you never know that kind 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:43.040 of stuff. So I I had at that point. I 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.119 had had enough experience to know like, well, you do 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.280 the pilot and that's great, and then if if you 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.920 do other shows, that's even better. But but you never 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:56.760 know that kind of thing. And once once you shoot 0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:01.159 a pilot, A lot of other four verses enter into 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:04.720 the creation of a series as to the direction they 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:09.320