1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to you, and That's what you Really miss podcast. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 3: Kevin. 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: It's such a special day. 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: We have an icon, legend, film TV superstar Stephen Tablowski. Oh, 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: Sandy Ryerson. 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 4: No introduction. Sandy Ryerson has the craziest stories to share 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 4: with us. Also about his Glee audition. I cannot even 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 4: it's it's so it's so it sounds so far fetched 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 4: that you're like, that can't be real, But it's real. 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: Leah has always had the craziest audition story, and I 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: think now this week because yes we met, like it 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: took this long to find someone else, but it is 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: one of the craziest stories I've ever heard. 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: So, without further ado, the amazing Stephen Tablowski. 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 5: Hello kids. 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: Oh we are in the presence of greatness. 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 4: What what? Oh I'm so happy? 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: What a joy? 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 5: It's it is such It's so good to be back 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 5: in this corral again. 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: That's why we keep doing this. We can't get enough 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: of it, you know, we just need to be around 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: each other. 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: Oh wow, good to see you. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 5: Good, Good to see you too, guys. Good to see Eachna. 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: Wow, thank you so much. Your voice just makes me 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: feel like I know at home. 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 5: We're back. 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: You guys as everybody. 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you very much, Thank you God than 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 5: what made you think of doing this Glee thing? 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: The fans wouldn't leave us alone. No, we were forced 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: into it. They berated us and were like, fine, we'll. 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: Do it, yeah, relentless. 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's worked out. Yeah, we get to talk 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: to people like you and reconnect. And because you know, 40 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: you who has worked more than anybody I've ever met 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: in my entire life. You've never stopped working. No, I 42 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: don't know. Good for you and your health insurance. 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: Yep, I. 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: Don't know how you do it, how you have the time. 45 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: And you're still so good in every single thing you do, 46 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: up everything, everything you've worked with everyone. 47 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 5: Well yeah, well almost, but but that's because they cut 48 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: me out of all the things I'm not good at, 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 5: you know. That's it's that editing thing, you know, but 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 5: it's and the things that you think are going to 51 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 5: be great, you know, don't turn out to be great. 52 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 5: And the things that you think are going to be like, 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: oh well this is trouble like Lee, turn out to 54 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 5: be like legend. 55 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, and you. 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 5: Go like, well, what are we doing here? Not here? 57 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely well, you're you're You're already a veteran of the 58 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: of the screen when you joined onto Glee. 59 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 4: I'm just curious, though, what the journey was like to 60 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: get you onto the show. Had you worked with Ryan? 61 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: Was this an audition? What was this? 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 5: You will not believe the story. It is a ridiculously 63 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 5: strange story. I had been horseback riding with my wife 64 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 5: on an active volcano in Iceland and we were hit 65 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 5: by a gigantic wind off the Atlantic Ocean that lifted me, 66 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 5: this is all true, lifted me and the horse off 67 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 5: the ground like a tornado carry us, dropped us on 68 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 5: the side of the mountain. My horse went crazy, started 69 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 5: running like nuts through me, and the last thing I 70 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 5: kind of remember was going sideways through the high grass 71 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 5: on the side of the mountain, and they found me 72 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 5: in a fetal position on the only dry piece of 73 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 5: lava in this lava plane. The horseback riding team came, 74 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 5: how does this get to Glee? I know you're thinking, 75 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 5: how So I come back to America and the doctor 76 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 5: tells me that I have a fatal injury and I 77 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 5: tell him words have a meaning means I'm dead. I'm 78 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 5: not dead. He says, you want to know why you're alive. 79 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 5: You're alive because most people have a cervical spine that 80 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 5: curves like this, but yours is freakish and it's the opposite. 81 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 5: So your neck just broke, but you didn't. You did 82 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 5: not break your spinal cords. You could still walk and everything. 83 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 5: But I had to be absent my poor wife. See, 84 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 5: this is what happens when you make those wedding vows 85 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 5: and listen in health. You don't know what that's going 86 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 5: to mean, and you sign on the dotted line. Annie 87 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 5: had to do everything for me, She had to help 88 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 5: me do everything. So anyway, the only thing I could 89 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 5: do is sit out in my backyard for I think 90 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 5: they say three months every bone takes three months to heal, 91 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 5: something like that. Two and a half, three months, three 92 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 5: months doing nothing. So I'm out there reading, doing nothing. 93 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 5: And near the end of my three months, when I 94 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 5: am still unable to do anything, I get a script 95 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 5: for this show called Lee. My first audition in a 96 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 5: month's right months and I still have a broken neck. 97 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 5: So I read the script and my first impression of 98 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 5: Flee was Oh my god, and all I could say 99 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 5: was so joyful. The script was so fun, so joyful, 100 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 5: and I'm thinking, like, I call my I call my agent, 101 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: my manager up and I said, I definitely want to 102 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 5: meet Ryan and everybody on this and uh, absolutely no quick. 103 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 5: And I'm thinking, like, how am I going to do that? 104 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 5: Because I have a damn broken neck, and how much. 105 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: Longer do you have to like heal technically, like I. 106 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 5: Guess I would say I probably still have kind of 107 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: like maybe three four weeks oft I still have. I 108 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 5: still have a wild but we don't exactly know when 109 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 5: Glee is going to start shooting, you know. So I 110 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 5: think like, okay, now I can't drive, I can't do anything. 111 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 5: So my wife drives me over to the Glee audition 112 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 5: and I get out and I have to have a pillow, 113 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 5: you know, and I have to be very I go 114 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 5: in and the waiting room you know where, yeah, where 115 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 5: all the man The waiting room is absolutely empty, and 116 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 5: I think, like this is so weird because everybody on 117 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 5: earth is going to want to be on this show. 118 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 5: So I sit on the little casting couch in there, 119 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 5: and I think, you know what I'm going to do. 120 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 5: I'm going to lie. I'm gonna lie. And I take 121 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 5: my neck brace off and I stuff it under the 122 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 5: casting couch and I just sit there. I just sit 123 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 5: there like this waiting. I said, I'm not because it's 124 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 5: a buzzkill. It is a buzzkill when you go in 125 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 5: on an audition and your horse let alone, you have 126 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 5: fallen off a horse and you have a broken nare 127 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 5: the producers just go like me, next thing, you know. 128 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 5: So I'm sitting in there twenty minutes. Nothing's happening. This 129 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 5: is so weird. And then Ryan's assistant comes in and goes, Stephen, 130 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 5: we are so sorry. It's the wrong day. Ryan is 131 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 5: doing Niptock today and your audition is tomorrow. And I 132 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 5: go like, oh my god. Now, so I said, now 133 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 5: I need to tell you this. So my soul was overburdened. 134 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 5: I said, let me tell you what happened. And I 135 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: told him the whole story of me on the horse 136 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 5: and the broken neck. And I pulled out the neck 137 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 5: brace from underneath the thing and put it on, and 138 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 5: put it on and said, this is what I was 139 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 5: going to do today. I was going to I was 140 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 5: going to lie to everybody. And now You've given me 141 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 5: a chance not to lie. And so I go back 142 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 5: out to the car. My wife has to drive me 143 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 5: home again and has to drive me out the next time. 144 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 145 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: The next day, I'm out there and I am in 146 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 5: the room. Now I'm in the room with Ryan and 147 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: all the guy all the producers. 148 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: You have the neck brace on or no, I. 149 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 5: Have it on? And Ryan goes, you know, I heard 150 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: a very interesting story about you from yesterday. I heard 151 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 5: I said, yes, right, I was going to lie on 152 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 5: the first date. And the thing is, guys, I love 153 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 5: this show so much. I love the script so much. 154 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: What I'm going to do right now, I'm going to 155 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 5: take this neck brace off, and I'm going to do 156 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 5: the scene and I'm going to sing a song. And 157 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 5: if I can't do it, I'm not going to say word. 158 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna get my neck brace and walk out 159 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 5: of the room. No harm, no foul. But if I 160 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 5: can do it, I will stay here and talk to 161 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,239 Speaker 5: you at the end and it won't be a problem. 162 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 5: I will be able to do it. So I got 163 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 5: up and I auditioned, I sang my song, and I 164 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 5: sat there and then at the end everybody was kind 165 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 5: of laughing, and they were going like, so, I guess 166 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 5: you're okay, because I go, yes, I am fine, I 167 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 5: am okay. And now I'm gonna put my neck brace 168 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 5: on if you don't mind. And I put the neck 169 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 5: brace back on. And then I found out pretty much 170 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 5: right away they didn't know when they were going to shoot. 171 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 5: And uh and at that time, we were we were 172 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 5: shooting at a school in Burbank. That yeah, we shot 173 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 5: at the school in Burbank. And then also we went 174 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 5: to that high school way the hell out in Long 175 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 5: Features correct career and and uh and that was amazing. 176 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 5: But but wow, So that was after I was supposedly healed, 177 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 5: and that it was the broken neck story that probably 178 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 5: got me on the glee. 179 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: That is that level of commitment. I've never been that 180 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: committed to anything in my life. My ass had been like, 181 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm not going to make it in there. 182 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: Good luck to you, good and this is why you've 183 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 2: been in hundreds of things. 184 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: Broken neck. 185 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 5: That was it was just, it was just, it was 186 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 5: it was a tripp and and uh, I remember going 187 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 5: out to that place in Burbank. Now, I don't know 188 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 5: if it freaked you guys out any But the thing 189 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 5: that amazed me was going to that high school in 190 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 5: Burbank where we shot the first the first kind of 191 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 5: show and the and the musical number and all that 192 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 5: stuff on that stage was they rebuilt that stage and 193 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 5: auditorium exactly to scale. Unbelievably. 194 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: It was like, what what kind of budget is this? 195 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 5: It's nuts? 196 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: And we acquired a new sound stage at Paramount to 197 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: build another replica of something we used to film, and 198 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: is like, what that's happening here? 199 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 5: What what was your experience when we started doing it 200 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 5: at the beginning and just rehearsing things. What what did 201 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: you you feel like when when you were doing it? 202 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 5: What was your experience? 203 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: I mean the beginning for us, like when we were 204 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: doing the pilot was obviously as you know you were 205 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: there so different than the rest of the show. But 206 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: I think for us, because we were all so green, 207 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: that it was more about we all bonded really, really hard, 208 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: and then we had weeks of rehearsal and they were 209 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: all trying to figure out what, Yeah, like what is 210 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,359 Speaker 2: the system, what is dance rehearsal? What are the recording sessions? 211 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: Like nobody really knew what was going on, but I 212 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: remember like when you had someone like Ryan who so 213 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: clearly was supported on every level, like by the network 214 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: and studio where I mean, you can tell us if 215 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: you felt this where on set it felt like he 216 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: has as much time. I heard from somebody like, Oh, 217 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: he wants this to be like three weeks or month 218 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: long to film this pilot, and that doesn't normally happen. No, 219 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: and so no, knowing that, in the back of my 220 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: head was like, and Ryan, we trust, so like if 221 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: the execs and the big scary suits are saying he 222 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: can have whatever he wants, then we just need to 223 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: like trust that he knows what he's doing. And clearly, 224 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: you know, they were right. 225 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't really know what was what was to come, 226 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 4: and we didn't know what the formula was going to be, 227 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: so everybody was just kind of there together figuring it out, 228 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: and we just remember hearing inklings of things. 229 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: We also didn't know like how the show was going 230 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: to be received, if we. 231 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: Were going to get Greenland or not, and everybody just 232 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 4: kept saying like, these executives don't usually show. 233 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: Up on set like this for a pilot. 234 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: These people don't usually start marketing for you know, during 235 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: a pilot or start thinking and strategizing. So it sounded 236 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 4: very promising to us and we were like, great, we 237 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: just love to see each other again because I moved. 238 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 4: I went back to New York after we finished filming 239 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 4: the pilot and waited for two months. But yeah, we 240 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 4: were there for We came in for four weeks before 241 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 4: we started filming and started rehearsing Don't Stop Believing and 242 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: figuring out background vocals, figuring out our audition songs, the 243 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 4: ones that aren't in the pilot, and so it was 244 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: all just like a very collaborative process where Ryan would 245 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: come in and say yes, no hate it, Yes, absolutely, 246 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: that's right. 247 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: Change this. You know, he is so clear in his 248 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: mind exactly what this. 249 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: Was going to be that like in Ryan, we trust. 250 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: Did you feel like for us when we found out 251 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: that Jane was going to be in it and that 252 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: you were going to be in it, people that we 253 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: all knew that were fans of, like that felt like 254 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: a really big deal. Yeah, because people like the two 255 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: of you, who are so good and have been in 256 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: so many any great things that like, oh if they're 257 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: a part of this, like if they think this is good, right, 258 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: being like touch and yeah, very much so, and I 259 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: felt like, oh, that's also really like I can brag 260 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: about being on the same show as you or as 261 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: you know, as Jane, because like everybody loves you. So 262 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: it was one of those things like guess who else 263 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: is in the show? Like how crazy is that? 264 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, the thing I felt, you know, one of the 265 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 5: benefits of always just trying to work and so like 266 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 5: I did summer Stock outside of Woodstock, New York when 267 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 5: I was twenty years old, and we had some very 268 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 5: talented people from New York City that came out to 269 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 5: do musicals there, and we had one week to rehearse 270 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 5: a show and then you put it up and you 271 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 5: do it for two weeks while you're rehearsing the next show, 272 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 5: and everybody is working on their songs, everybody is working 273 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 5: on their dances, everybody is working on their speeches from 274 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 5: Midsummer Night's Dream, walking Walking through the And that was 275 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 5: the feeling I had of Glee at the beginning, working 276 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 5: on that pipe. Everybody and every corner was working on 277 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 5: everything they were doing, yes, because it was not like 278 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: doing an LA show. It was not like doing it. 279 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 5: It was like doing theater and doing New York Theater, Yes, 280 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 5: not La Theater. It was like it was like everybody 281 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 5: was working on their stuff every second. 282 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: You're so right, Ye're so right. 283 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: I never even thought about it because we were so 284 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: used to it, like when we were at those schools. 285 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: Even later on in the seasons, when you were filming 286 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: at other high schools, we were if someone was filming 287 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: in the auditorium, we were on the football field having 288 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: dance or some other or somebody's being bussed off to 289 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: go record. It never stopped. We were all just something 290 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: was happening all the time. 291 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: And did you sing for your audition? 292 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 5: Oh? You know, I think I just did some stupid 293 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 5: song I had just done in Talks and Box. Do 294 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 5: you know that Fernanda and Sullivan musical, you know's the 295 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 5: bag he can on the grid? I'll say, he cant 296 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 5: that and close my eyes something like that, something that 297 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 5: was not of Glee caliber, and and and the but 298 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 5: it was, it was good enough. 299 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: It was perfect, Oh yeah for. 300 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 5: Me to be Sandy Ryerson. And but the thing was, 301 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 5: there was no dead weight on that show. Everybody, nobody 302 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 5: was lazy. Everybody was trying to do their best. And 303 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 5: it's like a very rare time where you know, you 304 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 5: experience everybody saying I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, as 305 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 5: opposed to could you give me another twenty minutes here 306 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 5: having a nap in my dressing room, and I will, yeah, 307 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 5: when I'm ready. 308 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 2: That's very true. 309 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: There's no time for naps now when you're all. 310 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: So excited because it even like, you know, I think 311 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: it means a lot hearing someone like you who like 312 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: read the script and you were excited from the moment 313 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: you read it, where even with a broken neck, you're like, 314 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: I got to figure out how to get in there, 315 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: you know. I think if that doesn't convince you how 316 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: we all felt about reading it, nothing will, because I 317 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: think we all had a very similar, you know, reaction 318 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: to it. Because it's so rare you get to do 319 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: something that piques your all your interests like this does, 320 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: and that everybody is willing to just go one hundred 321 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 2: percent from day one, even into the unknown whatever it 322 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 2: is we're doing, and to. 323 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 5: Go full circle in terms of the circle of catastrophe. 324 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 5: My last show on Klee, I had just finished having 325 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 5: drum roll open heart surgery. Now three years after the 326 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 5: broken neck, I had to have a triple bypassed open 327 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 5: heart surgery. So anyway, the word kind of got out 328 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 5: and different people reached out and gave me shows. And 329 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 5: so the guy said, Lee said, We've written the show 330 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 5: for you to do to make sure I kept my 331 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 5: insurance and that because I can do it. The show 332 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 5: the last show I did, and I and was in 333 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 5: detention hall and I said, whatever you people do, I've 334 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 5: just had surgery. I'm cut in two. Yeah, I'm being 335 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 5: held together by staples. Do not have me dance because 336 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 5: I'm not a dancer anyway, And they had me dance 337 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 5: in detention hall and so I'm like, you know, in 338 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 5: front of the in front of the blackboard. 339 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: It was stop. 340 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 5: But I uh take my hat off to uh the 341 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 5: guys at Community. They gave me a show and so 342 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 5: sweet and Ryan gave me a show right after Community, 343 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 5: and I'm going like, god, thank you, thank you, thank you, 344 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 5: thank you guys so much. It was wonderful. 345 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: It was one that's so great, Oh my gosh, because 346 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 4: you're enjoyable work with you know what. Now, now, you 347 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 4: did join a Fellas very early on in this in 348 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 4: the series. What was that like for you? Were you 349 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 4: excited to join af of fellas with those guys. What 350 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 4: was that experience? 351 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 5: Like, I was working with some very talented people, and 352 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 5: I remember, uh doing those dance rehearsals for a cafellas 353 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 5: that was like really ridiculous, and doing it for Ryan. Yeah, 354 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 5: you know, I was a particularly bad dancer, and and 355 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 5: you know I was. 356 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: You weren't the only particularly bad dancer. 357 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: I was over ampt and and Ryan was just laughing 358 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 5: his head off and he's going like, Okay, that's really terrible. Okay, 359 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 5: that's really but you're right, You're right, you know he 360 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 5: was like, yes, no, totally. But the guys could sing 361 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 5: so well. I felt like, well, that's fine. All I 362 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 5: have to do is kind of just blend in and 363 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 5: kind of hide in it behind those guys. 364 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 4: Right. 365 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 5: That's when I met Josh. 366 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: Yes, and you gave us one of the most famous 367 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: lines in ever. 368 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 5: Who says Josh and Josh and I this is this 369 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 5: is not so. I meet Josh out in Pasadena or whatever, 370 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 5: and he was saying like, I'm not used to acting 371 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 5: and doing this kind of thing, and I'm kind of 372 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 5: nervous about the camera, the whole camera thing. And I'm 373 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 5: going like, you gotta be kidding. I said, you don't 374 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 5: have to worry about the camera thing at all because 375 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 5: he's so brilliant. And it's just like I said, you know, 376 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 5: if you make any mistake of anything at all, they 377 00:21:58,760 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 5: just do it again. 378 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 6: You know. 379 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 5: It's not like you know, you're you're juggling glass spheres 380 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 5: or something. 381 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: He can perform live in front of an arena full 382 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: of people. 383 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 5: But you know, wow, god, but he what what? What 384 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 5: a guy? What a guy? That was? That was amazing? 385 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 5: That was amazing. 386 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 2: Did you have any idea when you came on originally 387 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: for the pilot, because Sandy Ryerson left quite the impression certainly? 388 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: Did you know that you know if the show got 389 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: picked up that Ryan and co. Wanted to have you 390 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: back for more or was it sort of the show 391 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 2: gets picked up and they're writing these episodes and like, hey, 392 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: actually can you come back again and again and again? 393 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 5: Yeah? Well no, you know you never know that kind 394 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 5: of stuff. So I I had at that point. I 395 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 5: had had enough experience to know like, well, you do 396 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 5: the pilot and that's great, and then if if you 397 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 5: do other shows, that's even better. But but you never 398 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 5: know that kind of thing. And once once you shoot 399 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 5: a pilot, A lot of other four verses enter into 400 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 5: the creation of a series as to the direction they 401 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 5: want to go with certain ideas and certain directions, and 402 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 5: so certain characters are elevated, other characters vanished, new characters 403 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 5: are created, and with glee. They certainly did that. 404 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: They did, oh they I. 405 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 5: Just was so happy that the number of times I 406 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 5: as music teacher, you know, I got to sit in 407 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 5: the audience and listen to everybody's sing Oh God, what 408 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 5: a great group of people. 409 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: Truly. 410 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 4: Now, Sandy had some really insane moments, and I'm curious 411 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 4: to hear if you are ever concerned by any of 412 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 4: your storylines or any of the things that you did, 413 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 4: like your doll your home of dolls. 414 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: In your robes and tea. I have to know, I just. 415 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 5: Find those things delightful, you know, I just find them 416 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 5: so funny, and there's so much humor buried in that, 417 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 5: you know, it's so funny. And they don't tell you 418 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 5: that stuff beforehand, right because you know, if you're doing 419 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 5: a character in a kind of Stanislavsky way, and they 420 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 5: were saying, like, well, one thing you should know about 421 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 5: who you are, you have a dollhouse at home, and 422 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 5: you you you played with Dolph, you know you would 423 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 5: kind of put something together, but in television they just 424 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 5: throw that at you as a surprise. But I was 425 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 5: just I was kind of delighted by everything. And oh, 426 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 5: I guess you and Jane to ask me. What Jane 427 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 5: and I would do when we weren't shooting is we 428 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 5: would sit outside the stage and tell each other theater stories, 429 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 5: amazing about nightmares she went through and nightmares I went through, 430 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 5: and it was also funny, and we just were sitting 431 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 5: there just laughing, and then they call us on stage 432 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 5: and then you know, it's a whole other thing. And 433 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 5: you know, one of the lasting impressions I have is Corey. 434 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 5: You know Corey and who was absolutely one of my 435 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 5: favorite people on the set, and always watching Corey working 436 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 5: so hard to get his dance right and get his 437 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 5: thing right, usually right outside my trailer. He was out 438 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 5: there and he was working on things. 439 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, everybody who comes on the show always 440 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 4: like cannot help themselves. But you mentioned how kind Corey was, 441 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 4: how hard of a worker he was, how he went 442 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 4: out of his way to make them feel at home. 443 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: He really was just our silent leader. Yeah, and like 444 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 4: so beloved by everybody. 445 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 5: So beloved. And I'll tell you it was one of 446 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 5: the in in a lot of businesses, you encounter a 447 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 5: lot of tragedy, and in this particular business, you encounter 448 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 5: so many people and you have no idea how many 449 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 5: are living on the edge. But it was one one 450 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 5: horrible piece of news that that so had me in 451 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 5: tears because because he he was such a dear, dear, 452 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 5: dear person, and. 453 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 6: Uh, I was I was just in Vancouver when I heard, 454 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 6: and I'm thinking, like god, you mean he could have 455 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 6: been right here and I didn't know it, you know, 456 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 6: it was Yeah, it was terrible. 457 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 2: Yeah really, And it feels worse too when you know 458 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: somebody that deeply you know how wonderful they are, that 459 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: it's always just shocking. 460 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it. 461 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: Makes no sense. But I love that like you, you, 462 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: like so many others you know, echoed the same sentiments 463 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: about him, because it's it's nice that we all get 464 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: to share that and got to have that time with 465 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 2: him and be able to like, you know, share those 466 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: memories with other people because it's one of those things 467 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 2: where like, no, he really was just the best, and 468 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: everybody should should know that yeah, yeah, sweet wonderful guy. 469 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, very You've been in so many iconic things. 470 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm curious like when people approach you fans, is it 471 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: for something? Is it is it more one thing than 472 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: the other? Is it Glee? Is it Groundhog Day? 473 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: Like do you have one that's like I always get 474 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 4: recognized or is it just that people know you because 475 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 4: you've been in literally everything? 476 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 477 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 5: Now, now it kind of depends on cable because everybody watches, 478 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 5: so I could tell recently everyone goes like, oh my god, 479 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 5: Stu Begs Californication And I'm going like, why why is 480 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 5: everybody coming up to me saying Stu Beggs? And then 481 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 5: I'd look on my thing and it's back on cable again. 482 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 5: Right in Californication. I was on the I was just 483 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 5: in Dallas this weekend, and on the flight back, the 484 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 5: guy said, you know, you were Jack Barker in Silicon Valley. 485 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 5: The guy next to me, I go, right, right, right, 486 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 5: Then the guy crossway, No, it's Stu Beggs and then 487 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 5: you leave, Oh it's Ned Ryerson. So it's like, now, 488 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 5: after all this time, their favorite characters people have. That's 489 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 5: funny and whether Bolberg's or one day at a time, 490 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 5: their favorite characters, people. 491 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: Have and everything everything I've. 492 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 5: Reached kind of the point of saturation. And I'm lucky. 493 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 5: I'm lucky in that a lot of the roles were 494 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 5: in really good projects, cause you could have a lot 495 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 5: of roles in really terrible projects. Something like Lee is 496 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 5: a classic project, or certainly Goldberg's is amazing one day 497 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 5: to time, I mean, lots of good projects. So that's 498 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 5: but a lot of reason why that happened was location, location, location, 499 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 5: So at Sony Studios, it is difficult to get the 500 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 5: approval of the boss. But when the president of Sony 501 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 5: and the head casting at Sony go like you're okay, 502 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 5: then everything that comes in at Sony it's it's less 503 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 5: work for them to say, Stephen, as soon as you 504 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 5: finish Goldbergs, why don't you run over there? And why 505 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 5: don't you go over and do uh doctor that sense, 506 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 5: do the Doctor Ken show. We'll get apart for you. 507 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 5: It just and they just keep you running around like 508 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 5: they did in the thirties, you know, So you just 509 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 5: go around and do like this show, this show, this show, 510 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 5: all at the same state studio, and they arrange your 511 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 5: scheduled where you do five different things. Wow, but that 512 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 5: was just location. Look, it was just companion for them. 513 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: A very very talent. 514 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 5: They know who I am. 515 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: They know you're capable of right, right. 516 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 5: Right, kind of auditioned on screen for them a number 517 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 5: of times, so. 518 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: You're right, and at that point they should be able 519 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: to just be like, can you do this? You don't 520 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: have to audition, come up just like you know, like 521 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: you know what I could do. You've seen me and everything. 522 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's well and also being on like for you know, 523 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 4: most recently with Michael Hitchcock two on Nobody Wants This. 524 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: It's like another really big hit that everybody's talking about, 525 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 4: which is not always so common in this day and 526 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: age because there's so much content now that for something 527 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 4: to hit like that and for you to be on 528 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: another show that's you know, wildly popular like that. 529 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 5: We had no idea what was going on because the 530 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 5: show didn't have a title. It was called untitled Aaron 531 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 5: Foster Project. And so so I'm going like okay, and 532 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 5: then they always kept reading. So they My agent called 533 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 5: me up and said, Stephen, you know they're doing this 534 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 5: this show and they have a rabbi, and I think 535 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 5: you have a scene. Could you go in and do 536 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 5: a Rabbi scene for them? It's just I go sure, sure. 537 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 5: So they send me the stuff and I'm reading it 538 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 5: and I'm going like, yeah, okay, well it's actually two scenes, 539 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 5: but okay, two scenes in two days. Okay. And then 540 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 5: they go like, oh, and you're on next week too, 541 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 5: and I go, oh my god, okay, okay, well well 542 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 5: that script yeah yeah, yeah, and wow. They had no title, 543 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 5: and so we had no idea what this show was 544 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 5: going to be like or whether it was good or 545 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 5: bad or indifferent. And after about three months or so 546 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 5: after we had finished shooting it, my agent called up says, 547 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 5: they finally have a title for it. I go, what 548 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 5: nobody wants this? Could you have a worst title? I mean, 549 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 5: can you imagine the critics going. 550 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: Like nobody right? You're giving it to them? 551 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: Silver. 552 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 1: It was great, really, it was. 553 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 5: I mean, we all, you know, Kristen played my daughter 554 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 5: on another show, so there's all kinds of you know, 555 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 5: she on Heroes, she was my daughter. That's where I 556 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 5: met her, And I'm going like, what was the genetic 557 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 5: disposition of my wife to where me and her created you? 558 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 5: I mean, my God. 559 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: Is right before Glee and I remember when you got 560 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: on like yes. 561 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: Jen, yeah, the whole thing. 562 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 5: But that show turned out to be nobody wants this 563 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 5: is a fabs like a show. And I didn't know 564 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 5: until I went into Looping. And you know, you go 565 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 5: into Looping and they show you a bit of the 566 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 5: scene and I'm watching, I'm. 567 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: Going, oh, this is good. Yeah, yeah, give me more. 568 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: I'd like to see. 569 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, you never know, you never know. 570 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: I think it's so impressive. And we've talked to some 571 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: other actors who've been in a lot of shows and 572 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: how like you just pop in for two scenes here, 573 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: come back and you don't even know what the show is. 574 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: But the skill to be able to do that, like 575 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: the muscle, to be able to just like pop in 576 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: do your thing that fits in the tone with that 577 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: show is so impressive. And you continue to do that, 578 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: you know. 579 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 5: You learn lessons along the way. One of the lessons 580 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 5: Harold Ramos taught me on Groundhougs because I was a 581 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 5: little nervous that I was overplaying the part a little bit, 582 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 5: you know, overplaying it, and Harold Ramis is Stephen, you know, 583 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 5: the Schlamiel and the Schlamazl. 584 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: And excuse me, he says, yeah, the Jewish. 585 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 5: Jewish comedy the Schlamiel and the Schlamazel. The Schlamiel is 586 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 5: the guy who always spills the soup. He always is shaking, 587 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 5: you know, yep, and always dropping the soda can. The 588 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 5: Schlamazel is the guy who always gets stuff spilled on him. 589 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 5: He says, So when you are in this scene in 590 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 5: Groundhog Day, you are the Schlamiel. Bill is the Schlamazel. 591 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 5: So Bill has to be the world. He has to 592 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 5: play it straight. You could do whatever you want now. 593 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 5: When they call me in last second, it's usually for 594 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 5: a comedy, And I think am I the Schlamiel or 595 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 5: the Slamazel in terms of nobody wants this? I am 596 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 5: the world, which is a much easier role to play. 597 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 5: I mean, you just have to carry the weight of 598 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 5: the normal into it to where the other people can 599 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 5: play off of that. But brilliant, you just have this 600 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 5: shorthand of going like what what am I on this show? 601 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: The vessel? Right right? 602 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, wow, some good advice right there. 603 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 4: Well, because you've been on so many things, in so 604 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 4: many things in your career is so wildly extensive, I'm 605 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 4: curious like what it is now? What your mindset is 606 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 4: when you're looking to work, now, are you just excited 607 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 4: to work on anything? Are you looking for things specific? 608 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 4: Or I'm just like what is it? When project come 609 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 4: to you? 610 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 5: All right, I'm hoping it's a good show. First of all, 611 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 5: like the script. I read the script, and if the 612 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 5: script is good, I like it. That's another thing. And 613 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 5: then then after you do it, you hope it's a 614 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 5: good cast. So nobody wants this, right Craig. You know, 615 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 5: I read the script, I go like, well, this is good, 616 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,959 Speaker 5: and then you see the cast you go, oh, well 617 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 5: this is good. The same thing with Glee. You know, 618 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 5: I read the script and I go like, I have 619 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 5: to be in the show. And then you say the 620 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 5: people who were in it, and you'd be like, oh 621 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 5: my god, yeah, yes, the most talented group of people 622 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 5: in the world. You know, it is so amazing to 623 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 5: act with you guys, and to watch everybody perform was amazing. 624 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 5: So that's the first thing. It has to have a 625 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 5: good script. And then if if the cast, especially if 626 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 5: the cast is like again, I'll go back to the 627 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 5: Glee cast that aren't afraid to work, and like I, 628 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 5: nobody wants this. Everybody was eager to work, not happy 629 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 5: to be resting. Everybody's let's go, let's do this, Let's 630 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 5: do this again, let's get everybody was happy to be 631 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 5: engaged in the process of doing it. 632 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 2: That that energy is so necessary. Yeah, feed off each 633 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: other's It feels like, I imagine it's reminiscent in a 634 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 2: way of Summer Stock too. You're like, it's a minor 635 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 2: miracle these things get made, yes, right, Like it takes 636 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: everybody doing their little part in every single department to 637 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 2: pull each other together at the end of the day 638 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: to just get this thing done. 639 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 5: Yep, this horrible summer stock story. Horrible summer stock story. 640 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 5: So I was playing bottom in Midsummer Night's Dream and 641 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 5: my girlfriend from Texas came up and she ended up 642 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 5: being an apprentice in the group of people, and we 643 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 5: were falling in love, you know how that happens. And 644 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 5: we were falling in love, and I was playing bottom, 645 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 5: and I kept waking up. The schedule was so difficult. 646 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 5: I kept waking up on stage in the middle of 647 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 5: the night rehearsing, wearing some of my clothes, some of 648 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 5: my costume, and some of my pajamas. So I'd wake 649 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 5: up at two or three in the morning on stage. 650 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 5: The theater is completely dark, completely dark, and I am 651 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 5: rehearsing bottoms dream or something. So I go to Beth 652 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 5: and I said, look, I think I'm sleepwalking. Could you 653 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 5: could you wake me up? I don't want to end 654 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 5: up on stage again in the middle of the night 655 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 5: with half my clothes on and half my clothes off, 656 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 5: because that means I had to get out of the bed, 657 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 5: go down to the bar, go down into the costume room, 658 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 5: put on my costume. But in my sleep I can't 659 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 5: button buttons or do belts. And so I said, Baby, 660 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 5: please just make sure I stay in bed tonight, please. 661 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 5: So I wake up on stage. The clock on the 662 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 5: side of the wall says three point thirty in the morning. 663 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 5: I'm standing there in my bottom out that my pants 664 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 5: are at my ankles because I can't fasten my pants. 665 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 5: I have my doublet and of this, and Beth is 666 00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 5: sitting in the audience and she said, I said, Baby, 667 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 5: this wasn't the deal. 668 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: The deal was. 669 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 5: Supposed to And she said I had to see it. 670 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 5: I had to see if it was true, and I 671 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 5: had to see when you woke up what you would do. 672 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 5: And so it is true. You are sleep talking, you know, 673 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 5: you know, it's just this is so it's all so crazy. 674 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 5: It's also crazy. 675 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: Wow. 676 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 2: Wow did you start in theaters? Like, how did you 677 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 2: get into that in the first place. 678 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 5: I got into theater because I was having a horrible 679 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 5: experience in college. I had a teacher in college who 680 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 5: was just trying to destroy me, an acting teacher. She 681 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 5: was the new acting teacher, and she hated me. And 682 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 5: so I grew up in a in an area of 683 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 5: Dallas where I was used to believes as a child. 684 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 5: I knew what they looked like and I knew how 685 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 5: they act that. 686 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 2: Where Dallas are you from originally? Oh, Cliff, I'm from Plano. 687 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 5: Oh well you're from Plano. 688 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 2: I was from the east side. I was not from 689 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: the west side. 690 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 5: In the old days, Plano where all the fancy people live. 691 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 5: And now it's like Addison or North Addison or now 692 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 5: people moved away because everybody moved to Plano because it 693 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 5: was the Beverly Hills of Dallas, not when I was there. Yeah, 694 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 5: but what was I talking about? 695 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: The teachers? 696 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 5: Terrible teachers. 697 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: Terrible teacher. 698 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 5: You know, when I was a sophomore is when you 699 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 5: got brought into the professional Acting curriculum. She voted against me. 700 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 5: So I was not in the professional acting curriculum, which 701 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 5: means I could not take acting classes. I could take 702 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 5: theater history, I could do all that other kind, but 703 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 5: not acting classes. So I go like, okay, this is crazy. 704 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 5: So what I did was I went to my theater 705 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 5: history teacher, who was understood and my junior year. I said, well, 706 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 5: you may know I have this teacher that's and he goes, yes, yes, yes. 707 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 5: I said, can I take the graduate exam now with 708 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 5: you if you give it to me, because you had 709 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 5: to have two parts, you had to have a written 710 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 5: exam to graduate, and and I said, you have to 711 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 5: give me the exam, but not tell anyone that you're 712 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 5: giving it to me, and you keep the exam and 713 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 5: if I need it my senior year, you'll bring it 714 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 5: to me. And so I took the exam like my 715 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 5: junior year, my graduate exam, and sure enough, a week 716 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 5: before the end of school my senior year, my advisor 717 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 5: came and said, we're so sorry, you're not going to 718 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 5: be able to graduate. Joan Potter has just given you 719 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 5: a second unsatisfactory critique, so you won't be able to 720 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 5: take the graduate exam and I said, well, I already 721 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 5: took it, and he said, well, that's impossible, because we 722 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 5: give it next week. See she was waiting to the 723 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 5: very end like a bully would do crazy. And I said, no, no, 724 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 5: I took it last year with Tony Graham White, and 725 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 5: theater has called him up. And so Hobb did. And 726 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 5: Tony came up with a sealed envelope with my test 727 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 5: in it, opened it up in front of hopgood created it. 728 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 5: I made an a on it, and then Tony saluted 729 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 5: me and walked out of the room. And I had 730 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 5: gotten my equity when they stopped casting me at SMU 731 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 5: in Anything. I got my equity card at the local 732 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 5: Equity Theater in Dallas, and I was doing musicals in Dallas. 733 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 5: I did Jesus and Godspell, I did, I did all 734 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 5: you know, and I was like a star. And that 735 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 5: really made the teacher hate me. And when I did 736 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 5: my first Broadway show in New York, she came backstage 737 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 5: to my dressing rooms absolutely and said you're still no good. Well, 738 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 5: you're still no good? And I said yeah, and you 739 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 5: just paid one hundred and twenty dollars to see me. 740 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: Wow, what a beast, a beast, a miserable person. 741 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 5: I heard that that was just her. Oh and at 742 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 5: the next school she went to, she did this, you know, yeah, fictions, bitter, 743 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 5: bitter better. 744 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: Wow. 745 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 5: Yeah. So what I did was I always just went 746 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 5: my own course. I got my equity card, I got 747 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 5: my SAG card, and I just always just tried to work. 748 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 5: Power is Yeah, you haven't stopped you Well yeah, not 749 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 5: not not lately. 750 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 2: Well, it's weird out there. 751 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 5: It's weird. 752 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: It's a weird time. We I mean, we could talk 753 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: to you all day. 754 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 4: I have a question for you before we forget to 755 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 4: ask because I don't want and we always ask everybody 756 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 4: on our show who has been a part of Glee 757 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,280 Speaker 4: in some respect, what is the feeling that Glee leaves 758 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 4: you with? 759 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 5: Jay? Oh? Why still to this day, Still, to this day, 760 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 5: I think of Glee and I'm filled with joy, both 761 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 5: the process of working on it all you guys and 762 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 5: everybody I met on Glee remarkable, remarkable people, Uh, Jane, Corey, 763 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 5: Matt and everybody, just Leah, everybody. I just had such 764 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 5: a great experience with everybody, and it was a unique experience, 765 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,919 Speaker 5: nothing like it before and nothing like it since. And 766 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 5: uh that was that was my overall Wow. 767 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 4: It's a big statement that it's like nothing you've worked on, 768 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 4: because you. 769 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 5: You know, well, it is joy always when I think 770 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 5: of it. 771 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, So we're sad we didn't get to work with 772 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 4: you more. We loved watching. 773 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 5: Because you guys had talent. I was just doing. 774 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:34,439 Speaker 2: Jokes, you guys know the fun yea, every time was like. 775 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:39,959 Speaker 4: Oh ship double all the house of dolls, My goodness, Yeah, 776 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 4: it was. No, it was always such a joy to 777 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 4: see you pop on the screen and to rewatch it 778 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 4: now and watch it and you're just so wonderful on 779 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 4: the show, and seeing you continually working makes us so happy. 780 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: And to see you, you. 781 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 4: Know, sharing your talents with other shows and other uh, 782 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 4: other people. It's just wonderful, so grateful that you came 783 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 4: on and shared all those wild stories, and. 784 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 2: We were so lucky to have you, you know, to 785 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 2: be on the same set, to be on the same 786 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 2: show as you. It meant a lot to us, even 787 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 2: if we didn't get to work together all the time. Yes, 788 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 2: it means a lot to us that you're here now 789 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 2: gracing us with your presence. So thank you so much 790 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: for taking the time to reminisce. 791 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolute pleasure. It's a joy to me to do it, 792 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 5: to go back to Gleeville. 793 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: I know, I know. 794 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: It was so good to see Stephen, seriously, thank you 795 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 2: so much. 796 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 5: Absolutely good joy, good to see you. 797 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: Good, good to see Stephen, thank you. 798 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh what it's icon Jenna, And I mean. 799 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 4: Really like the resume is actually insane, and the experience 800 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 4: he's had and still so joyful if you taking that one. 801 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 4: So happy about the craft, so happy about the work 802 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 4: he does and the way he approaches it. It's really 803 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 4: inspiring for somebody you know, who's starting out or for 804 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 4: us even, but it's I just still can't believe he 805 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 4: was on our show, and how funny and brilliant is 806 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 4: every time he stepped on the screen, like. 807 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 2: It was like surreal. Oh thank god, you know. 808 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 5: Thank god. 809 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 2: I love hearing all these stories too. One of the 810 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 2: besides like doing the work of like being on a 811 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 2: set talking to people who have worked a lot and 812 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 2: hearing the stories and their experiences is just the greatest thing. 813 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 2: Because it's a small industry and you are, you know, 814 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 2: like the whole six degrees of separation with Kevin Bacon, 815 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 2: it's like it's very much real and probably even less 816 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 2: for anybody you can imagine. And the stories that like 817 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 2: we've gotten to here, and like the idea of he 818 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 2: and Jane like swapping stories outside stages. 819 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: Just so cut the dream. 820 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 4: They also just He's just a joy, a pleasure to 821 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 4: work with, Like everybody on that show is just happy 822 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 4: to be there, willing to work, and like especially the 823 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 4: adults were such becons for us to see how they 824 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 4: handled being on set all the time, like Michael Malley 825 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 4: and Romy and Jane and like everybody was just like, oh, 826 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 4: this is how you do it. Like you you follow 827 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 4: along with their manner and etiquette on set because they've 828 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 4: been working forever. There's something that gets them, you know. 829 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 4: And it's not just talent, it's it's. 830 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 2: No and there's never any sort of pretense with them. 831 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 2: They're now, they're grateful for the work, they care about it, 832 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 2: they think deeply about it, and they're also just so 833 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 2: much fun and joyful to be around. 834 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: I just want him to just tell his stories all 835 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: the time. 836 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 2: I know. 837 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: Well, Steven Tailawski, we are so honored that you came 838 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: on the show and talked about your Glee experience and 839 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,959 Speaker 1: your wild Glee audition. I can't. I also can't believe 840 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: that he had to like audition at all, but like. 841 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 2: You know, I'm grateful it sounds was audition. 842 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, with their broken neck, nobody is beating him. 843 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 2: How does he even have to audition for things? 844 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: That's the thing is, he's just offer John. 845 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just sounds like he doesn't really have to 846 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 2: audition for things. 847 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 4: No, no, no, not really, not really. Well anyway, I 848 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 4: hope you guys enjoyed that. That's Stephen Tablowski, that's Sammy Ryerson. 849 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: Wow, and that is what you really missed. 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