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Speaker 1: Steppers call them my nesty. They say birds of a feather.
Speaker 1: What they do flock together. Okay, I got my brother
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Speaker 4: Yes, we had to get to talk about it all
Speaker 4: right here on the Army Money podcast. Get up, Yes,
Speaker 4: that's yeah true.
Speaker 2: The legendary, legendary Yeah yeah, West Coasting.
Speaker 1: That's a din in the house. I'm reminded of a
Speaker 1: story you told me. I want.
Speaker 4: I want to get on two things first before we
Speaker 4: paused that. The first story you told me you came
Speaker 4: in to I forget where you were.
Speaker 1: You were like.
Speaker 4: Backstage somewhere or something, and uh songs was doing good right,
Speaker 4: you know, you was popping and you had your shades on,
Speaker 4: you know, your your your I'm doing this ship shades on. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and a guy by the name of jel LeVert walked
Speaker 4: up to you and said, not yet, not yet.
Speaker 1: No, he did turn your LIFs down. Listen your light. Yeah, relax,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: I feel you, Bro, but one more record at least, Bro,
Speaker 5: just pace it not this moment. And I respected it.
Speaker 5: But my feet were off the ground. David Blade, Yeah,
Speaker 5: where was this? We had a show together, Rude Boys,
Speaker 5: Men at Large, Jeli Image Awards, Wow, and we were
Speaker 5: doing the Temptations. And this was the third Oh my god,
Speaker 5: this was the third album. I had went through my
Speaker 5: college days with Chuckie and Babyface and everybody, the first two.
Speaker 5: The third album, I went in and put my work in,
Speaker 5: through the litigation and all that. I was in the
Speaker 5: studio one percent of the time, and I thought I
Speaker 5: was ready, you know. I thought I had not reached
Speaker 5: where I wanted to be, of course, but I thought
Speaker 5: I was in a place where where I was solid
Speaker 5: as a creator, you know. And we were getting ready
Speaker 5: to do the Temptation. And mind you, we had been
Speaker 5: on a road killing it Hammer Keith, I mean all
Speaker 5: the rappers were killing it. You know, we're new addition
Speaker 5: in our bubble. Yeah, completely, and so we're getting ready
Speaker 5: to do this temptation thing. So man, what I am
Speaker 5: David ruffin tonight.
Speaker 1: Guy? Right?
Speaker 5: And you know, I loved Gerald so much because that's
Speaker 5: not the only time that Gerald, you know, Joel was
Speaker 5: like a big brother to me. But I love him
Speaker 5: and I appreciate that moment so much because we don't
Speaker 5: know when God in the flesh is talking to you,
Speaker 5: dealing with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're gonna speak to you through something, through somebody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, and it's up to you to know
Speaker 5: his face when you see for sure, you know. And
Speaker 5: because I like to learn and like to grow. And
Speaker 5: I was such a big GERLD fan period when he
Speaker 5: said that, I was able to say, Okay, Steve, I
Speaker 5: feel what he's saying.
Speaker 1: Because I'm.
Speaker 4: Anybody else, anybody else, anybody else said it, you probably
Speaker 4: would not have.
Speaker 1: I know you're talking to yes, bro, I'm number one.
Speaker 5: I'm number one, as you're telling me this, excuse me,
Speaker 5: excuse me.
Speaker 6: Right now, at least in this second.
Speaker 4: Now, everybody everybody wears shades now, but I didn't do that.
Speaker 4: But everybody wearing sh now. But back then, if you
Speaker 4: had on some shades.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: You know, I had lines. You know, I'm designed up,
Speaker 5: made over new grill. You know, I had porcelains in
Speaker 5: the nineties.
Speaker 2: I was the first thing Caniga smiling.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm you know, just you know, keeping it real.
Speaker 5: Gerald was one of the guys that always pulled my coattail,
Speaker 5: but he always pushed me forward at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, I remember we did our Senior Hall second album,
Speaker 5: I'm Not Suited. We didn't know New Audition was gonna
Speaker 5: be there, and you know, Gerald was always my.
Speaker 1: Round table guy.
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't have any brothers and stuff growing up,
Speaker 5: but Jerald he was the guy I always called just
Speaker 5: for whatever. So I was real nervous and scared, you know,
Speaker 5: and he was pumping, Man, man, you're gonna do great man, y'all.
Speaker 1: You know, you the ship man, you know whatever.
Speaker 5: So I remember after we finished I'm Not suit Bro,
Speaker 5: he called me crying.
Speaker 1: Man, your niggas is great, man, You niggas is great.
Speaker 1: I told you, I told you, man. He's so passionate.
Speaker 1: You know, he's so passionate.
Speaker 5: He was so happy that we killed it the way
Speaker 5: we killed it because he's rooting for the under he
Speaker 5: wants us to kill it, and we killed it, bro,
Speaker 5: and he called me he was so proud.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. Wow, Rest in peace, man.
Speaker 4: And then another other story. When we first got the building,
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I was like, what.
Speaker 1: Are you doing on the roof right? I'm working with
Speaker 1: my birds?
Speaker 4: I said, what what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: Birds? He said, yeah, my pitch and my birds. I
Speaker 1: said what.
Speaker 4: So from him, you know, and we'll get more into
Speaker 4: that so you can really explain that. But from there
Speaker 4: is me, and you just began to hang out more
Speaker 4: and happen more.
Speaker 1: You know. He's like, he's like, na, we're nesty. I said,
Speaker 1: what is a nasty had two eggs?
Speaker 6: Mans?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You like my master.
Speaker 4: So take us back, Take us back, Steve too the
Speaker 4: very beginning, like where does the star for you?
Speaker 1: Where is it?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: You know, okay, I got something, I'm finding something, I'm
Speaker 4: tapping into something. As this young kid.
Speaker 5: I was, I was an only child with my you know,
Speaker 5: single parent home, my mom and my grandmother. Her mother
Speaker 5: used to always tell my mother that boy is special
Speaker 5: my entire life, and because I loved her so much,
Speaker 5: that meant something to believe whether I knew what it was.
Speaker 5: I believe that because she said it, and she said
Speaker 5: it a year after.
Speaker 1: You make sure you keep him with drawing paper. Do
Speaker 1: you know this boy can draw?
Speaker 5: Because I was with her this summer in Texas and
Speaker 5: that Marilla, bless her heart. Anyway, it started from that
Speaker 5: her saying this to me. So fast forward fourteen years old, enter.
Speaker 1: In high school.
Speaker 5: She passes from an aneurysm before I even become fifteen.
Speaker 5: So I'm dealing with her not seeing me manifesting anything right.
Speaker 5: And I was walking on campus when I first got there,
Speaker 5: and I saw myself homeless actually, and I was older
Speaker 5: and I was on the street, bro, and it scared
Speaker 5: the living shit out of me. And from that moment,
Speaker 5: it was either football or music. Because I grew up
Speaker 5: I was popular as a dancer in Pasadena.
Speaker 1: I was one of the only little kids.
Speaker 5: You knew, this little dude, he's always danced, you know.
Speaker 5: And then I went into Michael Jackson, and I was
Speaker 5: super popular doing Michael Jackson. I was famous doing Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 5: I was Mike at twelve, and so I already loved
Speaker 5: the fans. I used to make people happy doing Mike,
Speaker 5: and I fell in love with that. I fell in
Speaker 5: love with making people feel good because it made me
Speaker 5: feel good, you know. And that was all connected with that,
Speaker 5: seeing myself homeless and wanting to be something for my
Speaker 5: grandmom and my mom. All that was the moment where
Speaker 5: it was like, okay, so on, I don't care what
Speaker 5: it is. It's either football. I was playing football against
Speaker 5: my mom's will.
Speaker 1: I was good.
Speaker 5: I got over my fear of defensive back. I got
Speaker 5: over my fear of hitting. It was over once I
Speaker 5: knew I was hitting you monster. So anyway, it was
Speaker 5: either that or singing. And I started giving demo tapes
Speaker 5: around in the studios in Pasadena. I would record what
Speaker 5: were you recording on UH eight recorder cassette recorded those
Speaker 5: great cassette recorders.
Speaker 1: Bro, you pressed, You have to press real hard to
Speaker 1: get it to record.
Speaker 6: Playing record. At the same time with the Little Black.
Speaker 5: Mic No, I was singing Jermaine Jackson, Dude, what you
Speaker 5: do when you did?
Speaker 1: What you did?
Speaker 3: Tell how Jermaine had a hit to it, because you know,
Speaker 3: sleep you record record he did on Jermaine's name.
Speaker 5: Man, that song was us, So you know, yeah, I
Speaker 5: was passing my sorry, I was passing my demo around
Speaker 5: and then a guy from school that I knew that
Speaker 5: played sports and stuff said, hey, man, you got to
Speaker 5: watch us this weekend.
Speaker 1: We on this show called Putting on the Hits and
Speaker 1: it was a litsen show.
Speaker 5: Yeah you know so, and I was like, you won't
Speaker 5: Putting on the Hit you played basketball. So I watched it.
Speaker 1: I went home and they was getting down cooler than now.
Speaker 5: I mean bust so I was telling my mom. I
Speaker 5: was like, I'll go to school these dudes, you know.
Speaker 5: So anyway, they won week fast forward. He's we got
Speaker 5: these big talent shows. Back then, it was always huge
Speaker 5: city talent shows, so we were getting prepared for one
Speaker 5: of those. The lady who was running the talent show
Speaker 5: wanted me to get them. At the same time, someone
Speaker 5: had contacted Putting on the Hits to find out if
Speaker 5: that group could sing, but they wasn't a singing group.
Speaker 5: So he was looking for me while I was looking
Speaker 5: for him, and when we run into each other, I'm like, Rodney,
Speaker 5: I need you for this talent show. He was like
Speaker 5: talent show. He was like, yo, a producer called the show.
Speaker 5: I want to know if we can sing, bro, I
Speaker 5: need you in my group. I need you in my group. Bro,
Speaker 5: you gotta talk to my mom.
Speaker 2: I need you because how old are you? Guys are
Speaker 2: fifteen years old.
Speaker 5: We're cute freshmans.
Speaker 1: We're freshmans, bro.
Speaker 5: And of course I just made this decision.
Speaker 2: Work.
Speaker 1: I had just made the win at all costs.
Speaker 5: Here comes Rodney. I need you in the group. So
Speaker 5: of course, fast forward.
Speaker 1: John John was.
Speaker 5: In one of my thriller groups when I was doing
Speaker 5: mic so he came along. He found out I was
Speaker 5: in the group.
Speaker 1: He made he bullied hisself. That's my god, you know.
Speaker 5: So you know Alan came shortly thereafter, and you know
Speaker 5: we rehearsed every day, bro.
Speaker 1: So start off with four.
Speaker 5: Well it was well, it was it was four because
Speaker 5: one of the original members was sticking around, our buddy Shane.
Speaker 5: He was still believing a little but that ran out
Speaker 5: for him, you know, And that was I had already
Speaker 5: met Alan uh singing in a park or something. So
Speaker 5: I remember this guy I can sing. I know, Rodney
Speaker 5: him and looking at me like, I'm this guy, but
Speaker 5: I need a singer in the group, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So when Shane made space for Alan, boom
Speaker 5: and that was five.
Speaker 7: Of a kind, Bro, what you said, Well, Reggie and Rodney.
Speaker 7: Reggie and Rodney were the originals, and they were the
Speaker 7: originals that went on putting on their heads, and Reggie
Speaker 7: stayed him and Rodney were the two originals that remained
Speaker 7: from that putting on the hits.
Speaker 5: And from there, Man, we rehearsed every day, day in
Speaker 5: day out. And now that I'm older and i've I've
Speaker 5: learned some stuff about what life is about. I look
Speaker 5: back now, like in hard times or when I feel
Speaker 5: like it's a struggle going on, and I remember rehearsing
Speaker 5: and not being on the sidewalk.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 5: There would come a time in rehearsal that I was
Speaker 5: on stage in front of thousands of people, and by
Speaker 5: the time the rehearsal was over, I was back before
Speaker 5: I got in the eleventh grade. Were signed to Atlantic Records.
Speaker 1: Bro, this is about a two year process.
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, to get the development, Yes, for us
Speaker 5: to get our stuff together, but no, we developed. We
Speaker 5: got signed June second, on a Tuesday in eighty six. Wow,
Speaker 5: so we still had work to do. But the manifestation
Speaker 5: from the visualization is real. It's really really real, man,
Speaker 5: And all of us was on one accord, So it
Speaker 5: was nothing the universe could do but just move it
Speaker 5: out of the way. By the time I was in
Speaker 5: twelfth grade, Mama Citu.
Speaker 1: Was almost number one.
Speaker 5: You know what, man, My classmates got to see me
Speaker 5: on Donnie Simpson after all of those years of saying, oh,
Speaker 5: we're coming out next month.
Speaker 6: So by the time we get to the twelfth grade.
Speaker 1: But before that, are you guys already? True? No, five
Speaker 1: of a con, five of a con.
Speaker 5: We're the guys in the twelfth grade, before we before
Speaker 5: that record comes out.
Speaker 1: We're the guys. But our group was the guys, and
Speaker 1: there was a.
Speaker 5: Group called Guy that had a release date before hours
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks groove me wow, yes, and we
Speaker 5: had to change our name bro, and we already had
Speaker 5: to day wait.
Speaker 1: So at the same time Teddy and him got Guy,
Speaker 1: y'all got the Guy.
Speaker 5: We were the guys, but y'all signed too, and yeah
Speaker 5: we were signed the guys.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So okay, So and didn't even know about Is there
Speaker 2: a brainstorming meet? Yes, West Coast, East coast? Is there
Speaker 2: a brainstorming meeting of like, what are we going to call?
Speaker 1: No question? How does that go?
Speaker 5: Merlyn Bob rest in peace. He's Sylvie Rome's right hand man,
Speaker 5: but he was our handler, you know, we were his ships.
Speaker 5: He got us on the phone and said we need
Speaker 5: a name now this second. So everybody was scrambling for
Speaker 5: a second. And you know me, I'm a download guy.
Speaker 5: So as soon as I got the download Troopers, we
Speaker 5: had a dance. We were already doing the Truth.
Speaker 1: That's us.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. We're not a new addition
Speaker 6: with true, my nigga.
Speaker 1: And that's how it happened.
Speaker 5: I said, with the True, and everybody at simultaneous like
Speaker 5: that's it, that's it, and Maryland hung up the phone
Speaker 5: and then Alan sat there for a couple of seconds
Speaker 5: and came up with total respect of other people, and
Speaker 5: that was it.
Speaker 1: Wow, number one record. I didn't know that number one record.
Speaker 5: After the number one record, we never flopped, bro, we
Speaker 5: never felt the feeling of a defeat on a charting record.
Speaker 4: Give me because I know you yeah, I know you know,
Speaker 4: I know it.
Speaker 1: Give me twelfth grade with a hit record. How is
Speaker 1: that well floated? I'm sure he was flowing.
Speaker 5: All of us know each other like the people that
Speaker 5: we went to school, which you've been in school with
Speaker 5: him since second grade, So we know everybody. So you
Speaker 5: already have built up the people who knew you weren't
Speaker 5: not gonna make it. You already have that crowd. You
Speaker 5: have the crowd who's rooting for you, and you got
Speaker 5: the crowd that know you're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: So we had.
Speaker 5: Stopped talking about what we were doing well before we
Speaker 5: got like by the time we got the record deal
Speaker 5: and all that, we wasn't going to school hoping people
Speaker 5: believed us anymore.
Speaker 1: So we were just.
Speaker 5: Regular right when we got on Donnie Simpson's couch, that
Speaker 5: couch when we came back to school, this is the
Speaker 5: last week of school, Bro, you got four more days.
Speaker 1: You're out video. So when we came back that.
Speaker 5: Monday from being on video, so bro, that four days
Speaker 5: was the best four days of our high We were
Speaker 5: on the couch, you know.
Speaker 1: How big that was. I made the couch, you know.
Speaker 3: And then I found out that the elevator wasn't real
Speaker 3: because I tried to the elevator.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, I want to get on the elevator.
Speaker 5: Right, that's true.
Speaker 1: And it was a wonderful experience.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: Was there a particular young lady That's all he wanted
Speaker 4: to know if you had to go use your flag,
Speaker 4: was there a particular young lady that you had had
Speaker 4: your eyes on, and maybe it was maybe it was
Speaker 4: a little difficult, Maybe it was just a little challenging,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: before the couch, but then right after the couch to
Speaker 4: you know, to get.
Speaker 1: Back in retaliation. The reciprocation was.
Speaker 4: It was just on a different level where it was like,
Speaker 4: I've always had my eye on you a lot of it, yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of it. I was a crusher.
Speaker 5: I was the quiet guy that you know, I like
Speaker 5: particular girls. I didn't just like everybody, but I liked
Speaker 5: that special little thing, you know, And I didn't always match,
Speaker 5: it didn't always align, you know. But I had a
Speaker 5: girlfriend during high school. Crystal was my high school sweetheart.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was a flirt.
Speaker 5: I was out there and yeah once, uh, that little
Speaker 5: one bedroom apartment turned into a nice Beverly Hills little retreat.
Speaker 5: No no, no, yeah right there in Pasaden, in that
Speaker 5: same one bedroom apartment, so.
Speaker 1: He turned it into it for Beverly Hills Retreat.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, you know you always.
Speaker 1: That one apartment in the hood that got the leather couch.
Speaker 1: Everybody know about that. Get that bunk bit out of
Speaker 1: here and bring that water.
Speaker 6: It was nice.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't. I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't take advantage of it like.
Speaker 1: I could have, but I appreciated.
Speaker 5: I did appreciate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like the people who took advantage of it like
Speaker 2: they quote unquote should.
Speaker 1: Have, they didn't survive. And I didn't do that. Bro,
Speaker 1: you got a patient, Yes, I did have to patience.
Speaker 1: I did, man, I did. I mean the entire time. Man,
Speaker 1: we got on the road.
Speaker 5: Man, I used to room with Reggie, and Reggie was
Speaker 5: a person professional already. This definitely wasn't his first time
Speaker 5: around touring or none of that.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 5: When we got out on the road, he was already
Speaker 5: max savvy. He already knew. Yeah, he knew and.
Speaker 6: Ready.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: You how do you know how to I mean grown?
Speaker 5: I mean bringing grown women.
Speaker 1: I'm like your kids. I was like, I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: he'd come in the room with somebody.
Speaker 6: I just rolled with all the cover.
Speaker 8: I start saying that put the nigga shineing, shout.
Speaker 1: Rest in peace. Wow. Crazy, We had a ball man.
Speaker 1: We had a ball who's.
Speaker 2: The first tour? Yeah, oh, the first tour. Maama Sita
Speaker 2: is going crazy.
Speaker 5: We did a ninety city too, by ourselves.
Speaker 1: We did a ninety city tour. How many days does
Speaker 1: it take you all to do ninety cities?
Speaker 5: People were crying and everything before it was over with,
Speaker 5: and airports.
Speaker 1: Crying broke down.
Speaker 6: Everybody went through hell, I want to go home.
Speaker 5: Oh, and we laughed at everybody that we laughed and
Speaker 5: everybody who went through it, and everybody went through it.
Speaker 1: We did a ninety city tour by ourselves.
Speaker 5: Every skating rink across the country, every boys club, girls
Speaker 5: girls club, schools, every every school, everything that you could
Speaker 5: think of. Truth was there. And that's why we're able
Speaker 5: to exist today because we were the people. We were
Speaker 5: eating at people's houses. We were those guys old school though.
Speaker 1: That's what you see in the school ray. And we
Speaker 1: did that.
Speaker 5: We did that. That was we We lived that. And
Speaker 5: people love us for thirty years because they remember when
Speaker 5: they were four and we were at their house and
Speaker 5: the neighbors. The whole block was lit because truth was there.
Speaker 5: No shooting, no fighting, nothing, love. One hundred people on
Speaker 5: the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Really over here and they really over here because we
Speaker 2: was hot, were on fire.
Speaker 5: But we never did get to experience what a lot
Speaker 5: of successful groups experienced, like a new addition or Joe
Speaker 5: to see or boys to men.
Speaker 1: We were right on the cusp. You know, why do
Speaker 1: you think that was energy within the group? Of course? Okay?
Speaker 5: And you know universal laws lack attracts like you know,
Speaker 5: when you get off course with that, you're still attracting,
Speaker 5: you know, when you lose the appreciation and the abundance
Speaker 5: that that's bestowed up on you being here, when you
Speaker 5: lose focus of that, and you allow. They didn't teach
Speaker 5: us about the ego, right. They told us that the
Speaker 5: ego was self centered. And if you don't self centered
Speaker 5: with Jay, who's gonna self center with you? You know,
Speaker 5: you gotta be self centered in order to be in
Speaker 5: alignment with yourself. Right, So anyway, they miseducated us about
Speaker 5: the ego. They didn't tell you that the ego comes
Speaker 5: with your flesh when you borrow it to get some
Speaker 5: expansion in this body, that you got a part of
Speaker 5: yourself that hates your guts, that's going to remind you
Speaker 5: of every ill thing that has ever been perceived by
Speaker 5: you at any time, because your ego comes with you,
Speaker 5: even if you're a baby. The ego's there, right.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 5: Going through beat up by an ego that you don't
Speaker 5: even know this, there's like being in a ring with
Speaker 5: somebody that got gloves on and they pounded on it
Speaker 5: and you don't even know You're in a boxing match.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 5: You know, living that kind of life where the egos
Speaker 5: gas tank is full, the higher self, the soul side,
Speaker 5: that creative side that was rehearsing and visualizing. Once you
Speaker 5: get hit records and you make money and now it's
Speaker 5: turned into work. Now it's turned Now you have family
Speaker 5: and now you dig steve from truth.
Speaker 1: Now you married.
Speaker 5: Now you're taking care of a family, youngster.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, requirements, yeah right.
Speaker 5: Ego is there waiting the whole time because the ego
Speaker 5: didn't like it when you were famous and feeling good
Speaker 5: about yourself. So now you feel in a certain kind
Speaker 5: of way. You feeling this, You've been in TGT. Come on, man,
Speaker 5: you know how it goes when you're not in alignment.
Speaker 5: You're not in alignment. There's not a lot of attraction
Speaker 5: coming your way as a unit and you got three
Speaker 5: different energies going on in one bubble, it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 5: And that's what happened with us, man. Just like in
Speaker 5: the Temptations movie, the money made different people different who
Speaker 5: they really were. And oh my god. You know, like
Speaker 5: I told you me, I'm not ashamed. I was a
Speaker 5: perfection idiot.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I knew I was over the edge in that way,
Speaker 5: but it was for the all. I wasn't walking around
Speaker 5: talking about Steve Russell, you know, I wasn't saying Steve
Speaker 5: and true you know, it never turned into that. My
Speaker 5: focus was always for the body of the entity. But
Speaker 5: when you're growing and you're getting to know yourself. We
Speaker 5: were kids, man. When you're growing and you're getting to
Speaker 5: know yourself and you're learning all of these different things,
Speaker 5: and ego is there telling you what you're not, what
Speaker 5: you should have been, keeping you, you know, keeping you
Speaker 5: lacking something. It can destroy everything, bro, you know, And
Speaker 5: that's what happened with us. We were not able to
Speaker 5: maintain enough frequency to keep attracting what we ultimately wanted
Speaker 5: with success and wealth, you know, the the egotistical niggas
Speaker 5: shit makes you make bad decisions. And when I say
Speaker 5: nigga shit. I don't mean black people shit. I mean ignorant,
Speaker 5: not knowing shit. When you get into living in a
Speaker 5: not knowing thing, uh an ego, you can't vibrate in anything, bro,
Speaker 5: Now life starts. Now you forget that you got that
Speaker 5: you can vibrate in anything. You got bills to pay,
Speaker 5: you don't even know you're creator no more.
Speaker 1: Depression a slave to it. You become a slave to it,
Speaker 1: you know, so now you're depressed. Was there a spokesman
Speaker 1: for the group like that?
Speaker 2: Within the group that was that everybody was like, you know,
Speaker 2: the level head and the person and that was having
Speaker 2: the conversations with you know, multiple members to keep everything
Speaker 2: together or try to.
Speaker 5: Rodney was that guy. But Rodney lost his power when
Speaker 5: me and Alan became the two guys to make the decisions,
Speaker 5: and then we were at each other's throat when when
Speaker 5: the cane and abels started, which I tried to prevent
Speaker 5: the entire time, because Alan was different. When I found
Speaker 5: when he lived with me, it was different. And I'm
Speaker 5: not you know, we all are different, but I'm just
Speaker 5: saying the energy that we had Alan wasn't that. Alan
Speaker 5: was much more mature. He wasn't physical on me and you.
Speaker 5: He was not into none of that type of you know,
Speaker 5: we was wow bro. So anyway, that manifested eventually with
Speaker 5: money and you know, you got your crew. Everybody in
Speaker 5: the group ended up having six niggas that they hung with.
Speaker 1: You know, how would y'all have individual buses onto it
Speaker 1: or okay, we wanted it. We wanted I mean, you
Speaker 1: know it's tough.
Speaker 5: Man, but you know, when you lose focus, when you
Speaker 5: lose energy, when you lose the energy that connects you
Speaker 5: to manifestation, you have a journey. Now you have to
Speaker 5: go through these things that you're creating. They didn't tell
Speaker 5: us that we were creating the picture. They taught us
Speaker 5: that life happens to us. But you're creating it. You're
Speaker 5: up there on stage looking good because you create that.
Speaker 5: You believe in tank, people believe in you. Lack attracts
Speaker 5: like you know, if you believe you ain't shit in
Speaker 5: the world is against you. God is going to agree
Speaker 5: with you. He's not going to disagree with you because
Speaker 5: he's already imparted himself in you, and you don't know it.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play games with you. I'm God. You
Speaker 1: ain't shit.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm not going to prove myself to you.
Speaker 1: You think you broke.
Speaker 5: You believe in lack because you don't see money in
Speaker 5: your pockets. You think that's me. That's the true that
Speaker 5: you see an empty piece of fabric.
Speaker 1: You believe that. Okay.
Speaker 5: The grace of God is measured by the grace of
Speaker 5: you on your motherfucking self.
Speaker 1: Mhmm.
Speaker 5: God is gonna agree with you as you agree with you,
Speaker 5: as you love you and believe in you.
Speaker 1: He's gonna cheer you on.
Speaker 5: Come on, you got it as you see ship that's
Speaker 5: not there, but you feel good about it anyway. Now
Speaker 5: he really cheering.
Speaker 1: Now he's got the pomp.
Speaker 5: Come on, tank, it ain't even manifesting you feeling good.
Speaker 1: Baby, come on. That's how it works.
Speaker 5: But they don't teach us that. So in my experience,
Speaker 5: I had to learn that the tough way, you know.
Speaker 5: I had to relearn that I'm a piece of God,
Speaker 5: having a physical experience, able to create things from thought
Speaker 5: in the physical manifestation.
Speaker 1: We did it.
Speaker 5: We did it together, okay, because we have we have to.
Speaker 2: We have to give the journey. We got to give
Speaker 2: the journey, and your journey is amazing. Like we all
Speaker 2: know that, and we've all been a part of that
Speaker 2: journey with you. I mean, you know, I remember you
Speaker 2: told me during our underdog days, which we'll get to,
Speaker 2: you were like Jay, you know, we never had this
Speaker 2: conversation because she was a kid, he was younger. You know,
Speaker 2: your father helped me and I remember us having that
Speaker 2: conversation and I never knew about that, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, I never knew that, you know, he had
Speaker 2: helped you in a situation in this business and and
Speaker 2: was able to, you know, assist in some you know,
Speaker 2: good dudes.
Speaker 1: Some things that you needed to you know, have to
Speaker 1: take care of, and he loved and we've all, you.
Speaker 2: Know, we've all had, you know, uh, a piece of
Speaker 2: each other's journey that brings us here today. So when
Speaker 2: Troop disbands, what is that like for you? At that
Speaker 2: moment when you're like, Okay, I gotta figure because how
Speaker 2: old are you at this point?
Speaker 1: You still what? Yeah, late twenties, bro, Well you got
Speaker 1: to figure out your new life.
Speaker 5: It was scary because I grew up an only child
Speaker 5: and like I tell you, you don't know about the egos,
Speaker 5: so you don't know that there's this thing recording everything.
Speaker 5: So for me being an only child and having those brothers,
Speaker 5: good or bad, indifferent, whatever I had them, you know,
Speaker 5: and then you have the higher self saying, steve your first.
Speaker 5: Put yourself first, dear one, you know, put yourself first.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: So my battle was that the entire time of you know,
Speaker 5: and my mom, she really helped me. She was the
Speaker 5: one that said, look, son, you got all these songs.
Speaker 5: You need to focus on you. Let others get your
Speaker 5: songs to other people. There are people not having problems
Speaker 5: in the group that need your records.
Speaker 1: I never take start placing the records.
Speaker 5: Listen when I tell you I was blind, I told you,
Speaker 5: he go blind you I'm nothing.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: We messed up our record deal. You know it's shit now,
Speaker 5: and you know you believe that. If you believe it,
Speaker 5: you're going to experience it.
Speaker 1: And I was in it.
Speaker 5: And my mom said, son, you got all these records.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: I never sold any of my equipment never. I always
Speaker 5: knew if I had something to offer, I was okay, right,
Speaker 5: So at my lowest love, my mom said, you need
Speaker 5: to leave troop alone. You need to allow troop to
Speaker 5: breathe without you. You need to you need to give
Speaker 5: Troop a break and give yourself an opportunity to see
Speaker 5: what life has for you, as Steve Russell, because you
Speaker 5: are are you are Steve, you know. And I Randy
Speaker 5: Jackson used to work at MCA from American. I write
Speaker 5: a song called I Wonder Why.
Speaker 1: I Wonder Why. I Wonder Why, I Why.
Speaker 5: Some jodasy sound of song, but it wasn't that. But anyway,
Speaker 5: he gave me twenty five thousand dollars to do that
Speaker 5: song on a group he had called Jersey Avenue.
Speaker 1: I remember Jersey Avenue.
Speaker 5: I produced a record for them bro called I Wonder Why,
Speaker 5: And that turned everything around.
Speaker 1: And I had.
Speaker 5: Already prior to that, ran into a guy named Vasill Befford,
Speaker 5: and I was I was producing for Vasall Bedford and
Speaker 5: I met this guy, this engineer we hired named Harvey.
Speaker 1: Mason, young guy. His dad was this famous drummer.
Speaker 5: And me and this guy, Harvey Visas was always gone.
Speaker 5: You know, he got somebody doing music for him. You know,
Speaker 5: he come in and polish that's it.
Speaker 1: I was gone.
Speaker 5: So me and this kid, Harvey Mason, man, we become
Speaker 5: like two p's in the pods on the writing. You
Speaker 5: know at first he's just engineering and tripping off of
Speaker 5: my vocal arrangements and ship.
Speaker 6: Like, man, why are you doing that? Man?
Speaker 1: You know it's hard science.
Speaker 5: He wants the science. So I was like a science
Speaker 5: project for him because as he's engineering, he's listening to
Speaker 5: how I'm doing my vocal rams. I'm all laid back
Speaker 5: because I'm picking up from Allen and everybody I'm around.
Speaker 5: I'm a part of drill every I got everybody. In
Speaker 5: my late twenties, I was ready, you know, creatively. So
Speaker 5: you know he's he's figuring out what I'm doing, and
Speaker 5: before you know it, we're writing songs together.
Speaker 1: I mean bad records, bro.
Speaker 5: Just me and him vasales lock us in the studio.
Speaker 5: It wouldn't give us the key.
Speaker 1: Me and Harvey have to shake.
Speaker 5: The only way we could stay warm after we get
Speaker 5: tired is to sleep under the SSL because of the
Speaker 5: heat that's under the SSL, and me and Harvey in
Speaker 5: the studio sleep into versad coming.
Speaker 1: And this is after you've had record.
Speaker 5: This is this is the new journey of Steve becoming
Speaker 5: a songwriter.
Speaker 2: Look camera Steve and tell them how this ship really goes? Man,
Speaker 2: And if you really love this thing that we're in.
Speaker 2: What you gotta go through sometimes, what you're willing to
Speaker 2: go through.
Speaker 5: You gotta be willing to go through what you consider
Speaker 5: being uncomfortable. You gotta be willing to go through with
Speaker 5: blinders on when they's so foggy you can't you can't see.
Speaker 5: But you gotta open your motherfucking ears up and keep
Speaker 5: walking straight.
Speaker 1: You gotta.
Speaker 5: You gotta keep walking, even if you gotta take little
Speaker 5: tiny chopping steps.
Speaker 1: Just keep your feet moving. You've played sports.
Speaker 5: Keep your feet moving, chop your feet, keep walking, keep
Speaker 5: moving because you're on your way. Everything that is coming
Speaker 5: against you in perception is there to move you forward.
Speaker 5: Everything is all good. There's nothing in your journey against
Speaker 5: you from a lestation. No daddy, no mother, nothing is
Speaker 5: against you. You're molested. The absent mother, the absent father,
Speaker 5: all have agreed to do a job for you here
Speaker 5: to move you forward. But if you fall in love
Speaker 5: with the gift and forget the gift giver, you'll worship
Speaker 5: the molestation and.
Speaker 1: Be robbed in your life.
Speaker 5: If you have abusive father, abusive mother, you fall in
Speaker 5: love with that and the agony because that you have
Speaker 5: an ego, you have this flesh that loves pain, it
Speaker 5: loves the long and I wish I was like Tank.
Speaker 5: Oh I wish I could get in shape. Oh I wish. See,
Speaker 5: that's the ego and the flesh. Get your ass on
Speaker 5: the floor and do it right. That's the choices that
Speaker 5: you have to make. But you have to know that
Speaker 5: everything is all good. And that's very tough when you're
Speaker 5: sleeping in your car and tomorrow you don't know what
Speaker 5: you're gonna do. But if you get up that morning,
Speaker 5: out of that sleeping car and they head to the studio,
Speaker 5: your ass is on the right track.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 5: Because when I was working with you guys before, before Tank,
Speaker 5: right at the beginning of the Underdogs, was when I
Speaker 5: had moved back from Rialto. This is me from my
Speaker 5: mom's motivation. Now I'm back, Harvey, Harvey came. I forgot
Speaker 5: to tell you I'm writing songs. After I did that
Speaker 5: song from Randy Jackson, I'm stealing this. My mom had
Speaker 5: some apartments. She did right by what I gave her.
Speaker 5: She has these apartments, so she has some stuff set up.
Speaker 5: Come on, man in the hood. In Rialto in the Hood,
Speaker 5: she had an apartment. Y'all come and get this. I
Speaker 5: lost the house. Y'all come and stay in this apartment
Speaker 5: and get to you get your ship right.
Speaker 1: Mom's on my team. Wow, come get to this apartment.
Speaker 1: We sprayed this motherfucker down, you know, spread down to
Speaker 1: get up in here.
Speaker 5: It ain't gonna be that long. This was mom, bro,
Speaker 5: and you know, and now it was over. It felt
Speaker 5: like this was I'm in Rialto. How the fuck did
Speaker 5: I get in Rialto? But the god side, my god
Speaker 5: self was so appreciative. I was so appreciative of that apartment. Man,
Speaker 5: my first wife. No, nigga, you done fell off my nigga.
Speaker 1: This ain't hurt.
Speaker 5: Saying, but this is the reality feeling. Yeah, I'm finna
Speaker 5: move to Compton. I'm going to move back with my mom.
Speaker 5: I'm out of here right. I'm focused on having something
Speaker 5: to offer. I just proved to myself from that placement
Speaker 5: that I'm okay. I still got some breath in me.
Speaker 5: So I'm focused. I'm writing. I'm writing.
Speaker 1: Steve's Harvey Mace. What a man, What a man you
Speaker 1: still were? Rodney. Uh, you know, I'm kind of we leave.
Speaker 1: I'm out of that.
Speaker 5: But I met this guy we're going to create this
Speaker 5: writing team. Damon Winning picked his guy, so I'm picking
Speaker 5: my guy. I know you like writing by yourself, but
Speaker 5: I think this would be great for your career.
Speaker 1: I think this would be good for us. Bro.
Speaker 5: Just come and check us out and see if you
Speaker 5: want to vibe with us.
Speaker 1: Right underdogs.
Speaker 5: Jay Valentine's the main writer, already got a smash.
Speaker 1: I like them.
Speaker 6: I'm coming in will murder. That's my guy right there.
Speaker 1: They don't even realize we know each other. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: have no idea when he's baby. Yeah.
Speaker 5: When he said he got ja, I said, okay, Jay,
Speaker 5: he's growing right.
Speaker 1: So we love them. These guys we.
Speaker 5: Love They were our group.
Speaker 1: Man, we love them so much.
Speaker 5: So just the thought of that was a And I'm
Speaker 5: a super positive dude anyway. You know, I'm not a hater.
Speaker 5: I was blessed not to be envious. I don't have
Speaker 5: envy me, so it's always good with me.
Speaker 1: So that was perfect.
Speaker 5: When he said, Jay Valentine's like, oh shit, you know, so.
Speaker 1: That was the.
Speaker 5: Universe obliging my willingness to still have.
Speaker 1: Not belief.
Speaker 5: Belief is whack, faith enough to still persevere creatively when
Speaker 5: there's nothing to be creative for. So it seems egotistically, what.
Speaker 1: Are you doing this for? No, but you're in reality,
Speaker 1: you're the hood buddy.
Speaker 5: Now to remind you the ego and make you kill
Speaker 5: somebody and then say you never do that. No, the
Speaker 5: ego is the worst part of it, I'm telling you, man.
Speaker 5: And there needs to be more conversation, especially amongst us
Speaker 5: getting of age, separating ourselves, especially when we deal with
Speaker 5: our women, man, introducing them to that part of themselves
Speaker 5: that they believe is them. When you're feeling off, that
Speaker 5: ain't you baby?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: And once we stop claiming the egos thoughts and the
Speaker 5: egos feelings, your journey is a little easier because you
Speaker 5: know how you want to feel in every moment when
Speaker 5: you when you're off, you know, it's the ego. When
Speaker 5: you have a part of yourself trying to explain something
Speaker 5: to you, trying to convince you of some shit, the
Speaker 5: ego higher self is gonna say, hey, go left and
Speaker 5: give you the opportunity to respect that Jesus and self
Speaker 5: relationship or not, the higher selling is gonna explain shit
Speaker 5: to you because it got another life.
Speaker 1: We can do anyway.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter even if you don't get it this time,
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, right, the ego is.
Speaker 1: Going to be trying to convince you.
Speaker 5: No, Jay, Man, we might Man, shit, we could get
Speaker 5: this man, and you know how like say, ay, tank Man,
Speaker 5: just come do the show, bro, And I know this
Speaker 5: ain't your fee, but man, you know it's a lot
Speaker 5: of people gonna be there. We're gonna have some promoters there.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be some This guy is supposed to be there.
Speaker 5: And your ego is saying, now you've already made a
Speaker 5: standard from the higher self and loving self, I'm not
Speaker 5: going lower than this.
Speaker 1: The ego. Oh man, the people gonna be there.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: You know, man, you might get another opportunit needed out
Speaker 5: of this one, you know, pulling you to challenge yourself,
Speaker 5: you know. And we need to people need to have
Speaker 5: those conversations about ego because you have thoughts and feelings
Speaker 5: that are manifesting, especially now that everything is changing energetically.
Speaker 1: Is more than ever. You need to know and be
Speaker 1: solid on.
Speaker 5: Your relationship with your ego because the decisions that you're
Speaker 5: making now in this time, we can't afford to make
Speaker 5: egotistical and I don't mean arrogant I'm saying egotistical perceived
Speaker 5: decisions that trick yourself and witchcraft yourself to stay in
Speaker 5: that box of not knowing anything. You know, the ego
Speaker 5: is always unsafe and insecure, and it always wants.
Speaker 1: You to feel you've ub a lot of musical excellence
Speaker 1: in your times, been around the world, and a yah yah.
Speaker 4: You know you you you've you've been on the charts,
Speaker 4: while other people on the charts are waiting to be
Speaker 4: number one, I mean, big artists. You just said it
Speaker 4: so mean. Now we want to get into the mind
Speaker 4: of little Steve and figure out your.
Speaker 9: Top five, your top five, top five, your top five
Speaker 9: all be singer. What's up.
Speaker 1: Me, so, Steve?
Speaker 9: Don't a little drouth bar, little drut little top top top.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, lusty time FU love you, baby Steve. Okay, nasty,
Speaker 1: I can pull that off. Who is your top five
Speaker 1: R and B singers?
Speaker 5: My first and favorite influence singer Damn Johnny Wilder from
Speaker 5: Heat Wave m is one of my favorite all time.
Speaker 5: I just love him man, rest in peace. Wow, I
Speaker 5: just love him. Man. Charlie Wilson, his voice steal it's
Speaker 5: hard to it's hard to. Charlie is good man, Charlie,
Speaker 5: and I can't say Charlie without saying Stevie because Charlie
Speaker 5: is a Stevie child, you know, So I gotta give
Speaker 5: props to Stevie. It's one of my favorites. Michael Jackson
Speaker 5: is a Stevie child, so it's hard. You know, that's
Speaker 5: under the umbrella. So Michael is a part of that,
Speaker 5: My top five. Luther Vandros, his body, his voice gives
Speaker 5: me chills to this day. I've been on Luther for
Speaker 5: the past two weeks and I can't even believe that
Speaker 5: his essence and tone I get him now as a
Speaker 5: grown man more than I did. You know, of course, Damn,
Speaker 5: y'all got me blank. You asked a cold question.
Speaker 1: And now we're gonna move on, so our top top
Speaker 1: That was unfair, bro, Yeah that was called.
Speaker 4: Now we're gonna move on to our top R and
Speaker 4: B songs. We'll stick top five. Okay, this will be five.
Speaker 5: Damn, that's not fair.
Speaker 1: This will be five. This will be okay. Five songs
Speaker 1: at the top.
Speaker 5: Yeah, damn, man, five songs always and for everybody. She's
Speaker 5: out of my life. Michael Jackson, Superstar, Luther Vandros, Lady
Speaker 5: in My Life by Michael Jackson is definitely one of
Speaker 5: my favorite songs, I would say, and Holy Spirited by
Speaker 5: kimberrell Man that's one of my that's.
Speaker 1: Definitely one of my top five songs. I love.
Speaker 5: I got one more.
Speaker 1: Oh that's fine, But Lady in my Life he said,
Speaker 1: she's out of my Lady.
Speaker 5: So Mike got two of my life my life songs.
Speaker 5: But my Heartbreak Hotel.
Speaker 1: Is one of my favorites songs. So we'll be we're
Speaker 1: going to do now and the song.
Speaker 4: I'll take that an extra record. What we're gonna do
Speaker 4: right now is we're gonna do what we like to
Speaker 4: call a vultron. You're going to build your perfect R
Speaker 4: and B artists, and we're going to figure out who
Speaker 4: you get the vocal from, who you get the performance
Speaker 4: style from, who you get the drip from, and then
Speaker 4: who you get the passion from the heart of the artists.
Speaker 4: So let's start with the vocal. Who are you getting
Speaker 4: the vocal from to build your arm B artist?
Speaker 1: One vocal Chris Brown. Chris Brown, Chris Brown, the universal
Speaker 1: radio vocal has a missed yet performance style on stage.
Speaker 1: Who you get do I have to just one person only?
Speaker 1: That's it. Yes, I can't combine one.
Speaker 2: You know what combined. No, little Steve can combine. We've
Speaker 2: let somebody combine. Little Steve can combine.
Speaker 1: Okay, you give me.
Speaker 5: Prerogative Bobby Brown on the Awards when he was actually
Speaker 5: floating on the air monster.
Speaker 1: And he was in his highest energy. You get King
Speaker 1: of R and B. Give me the King of R
Speaker 1: and B.
Speaker 5: Bobby Brown performing style with of course, Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: I want to be the greatest. It's going to be
Speaker 1: Michael king of everything, all things. Yeah, you have to Michael,
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown.
Speaker 5: Bobby Brown's attitude over Michael's attitude. When Bobby is doing
Speaker 5: prerogative with them two niggas and he's got hard. When
Speaker 5: he's got hard and he's spinning around and you don't
Speaker 5: know where he's gonna land at it, he's you know,
Speaker 5: he was a different am I trip it not at all.
Speaker 5: Bobby was different. Bobby was a different dude, Bro. Bobby
Speaker 5: Brown was an untouchable.
Speaker 1: That that's great, you know from truth got the memo.
Speaker 1: You know we tried the email.
Speaker 6: You but no, man, that's that's energy.
Speaker 1: I think Bobby's energy is peaking. You get what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. Yeah, I take that, Michael,
Speaker 1: and Bobby.
Speaker 5: Is not to ship on Usher because Usher came after
Speaker 5: Bobby and did very well with his thing.
Speaker 1: Bobby though.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Okay, Okay, I watched, We watched Bobby give New
Speaker 10: Edition everything they needed on that hard by himself.
Speaker 1: By himself himself. So you get what I'm saying, Okay.
Speaker 10: The styling of the artists, styling don't put on them.
Speaker 1: When artists put that ship on the you.
Speaker 5: New Audition in BBD, the young and the professional. I'll
Speaker 5: take the swag of to me. I envy New Audition swag.
Speaker 5: I always have their the most swagged out niggas in
Speaker 5: the industry to me, So I have to give it
Speaker 5: the swag of New Dish BBD with the street ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have the perfect blend, perfect New Audition in
Speaker 1: BBD both and kill. It literally changed the look yes
Speaker 1: of music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody looked like them. All the boy bands after
Speaker 2: them look like New additions, all the hip hop artists
Speaker 2: looked like BBD.
Speaker 1: It did it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I have to give them that because what
Speaker 5: other swag is there in between that for the artists
Speaker 5: we're building?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know the passion of the artists, the
Speaker 4: heart of the artists.
Speaker 5: Michael Michael Jackson. You can't get more passionate than that.
Speaker 1: You know you heard that cry.
Speaker 5: Have you ever heard of a cappella track of Michael's?
Speaker 1: Hurt your feelings, Hurt your feelings.
Speaker 5: It's so much shit going on in the vocals. His
Speaker 5: passion is unbeat You know. I sang baby Face some
Speaker 5: demos for Baby baby Faces when he was submitting to
Speaker 5: the Invincible album. I sang his demos from Michael and
Speaker 5: those I worked harder singing those two songs than anything
Speaker 5: I ever sang in my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because we know you got some legendary stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she got you. I ain't saying no nicks. I
Speaker 1: ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. Ain't
Speaker 1: saying no names. Where was.
Speaker 4: Did?
Speaker 1: Don't see she saying no like that ship run? So
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: We got a segment of the show it's called I
Speaker 2: ain't saying no names. Well, you tell us a story
Speaker 2: funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up about
Speaker 2: the travels of Little Steve Russell of TRUP The only
Speaker 2: rule you just can't say the names you can't say
Speaker 2: who was involved in it, not their name, but you know,
Speaker 2: maybe the occupation of it. I mean, even you can
Speaker 2: you can give some you know you you you've been
Speaker 2: a big stepper for a long time. You definitely dance.
Speaker 2: You just can't say their names. So right now this
Speaker 2: is little Steve of True, the underdogs, all things legendary Russell.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, and this is a moment that means something
Speaker 5: to me or just something. Okay, Well, being a kid
Speaker 5: that always admired singers and the music business and stuff
Speaker 5: and wanted to be in that world once I once
Speaker 5: I got hits and was traveling, I found out that
Speaker 5: there were certain members of my peer community that liked
Speaker 5: me like I you know, like I admired them as
Speaker 5: a fan or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know. I had fans amongst people that I admired.
Speaker 1: M yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: And I was fortunate at one time in my life
Speaker 5: too become really good friends with somebody that I admired,
Speaker 5: a whole whole lot of very famous singer, you know,
Speaker 5: female singer, and.
Speaker 1: I had to share the unselfish.
Speaker 5: With her, you know, I had an introduce her to
Speaker 5: the unselfish lumber incorporated, you know, incorporating.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 6: We used to say that back in the day.
Speaker 1: But anyway, no, I was.
Speaker 5: It's not exciting for everybody else, but for me, it
Speaker 5: was very exciting for me to be able to experience, uh,
Speaker 5: intimate relationship with somebody that I watched on TV and
Speaker 5: admired like a mog that's really liked him too. She
Speaker 5: ended up liking a little Steve Back mistake. Fool you
Speaker 5: baby down now, I'm just I'm just acting silly. But yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, I've had, I've had I've had an opportunity
Speaker 5: to experience some pretty neat things man. In my experience
Speaker 5: of touring and stuff. Man, I was I was the guy.
Speaker 5: I was very particular. I liked having something with me,
Speaker 5: you know, you know, I like mine where I'm at.
Speaker 1: You know. So that was just my good down, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, it just happened to be somebody that was
Speaker 1: just on the level.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love oh Man, I level lumber Lane, oh Man.
Speaker 5: And it was everything that you could dream it to be.
Speaker 1: When they see you, they seen y'all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, say my name, say my name, beautiful, man. I
Speaker 5: wish I could say the name.
Speaker 1: Cast some ship. Listen.
Speaker 4: Steve had to say, when I've heard him say it
Speaker 4: at least fifty eleven hundred times, you lucky.
Speaker 1: I ain't your type. Lucky, I ain't your time. I
Speaker 1: used to wait because we used to have, We used
Speaker 1: to always have.
Speaker 4: You know, I have some things around, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, just helping to create some wall paper, some garness.
Speaker 5: I would say, like a lot of time to eighty
Speaker 5: percent of the time, it was to make people make
Speaker 5: him laugh.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be the one.
Speaker 1: I could look in his eyes and then tell when
Speaker 1: it's a real stuff out of town.
Speaker 4: You know, we be talking and we get into those
Speaker 4: conversations and he just be like, and Steve is one
Speaker 4: of those guys he's gonna compliment like, he's not gonna
Speaker 4: hold punch of just who you bad?
Speaker 1: You're lucky, I ain't your type.
Speaker 4: I mean, man, he be, he be, He throw that
Speaker 4: line out there, wait for fish the hook, and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you hear how you know.
Speaker 1: You need a man?
Speaker 4: Go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need some real in your life. You frustrated.
Speaker 1: I'm mad with you.
Speaker 5: Ship.
Speaker 1: This is oh man. You guys listen, my brother, my
Speaker 1: nasty man. We love you.
Speaker 10: Man, y'all know that we miss you, brother. That man,
Speaker 10: we got a lot close close the distance. Man, we
Speaker 10: definitely need you know what I'm saying too much to
Speaker 10: not do more. Yeah, definitely for sure.
Speaker 1: This is your house and I love it. Man. I'm
Speaker 1: such a fan of the show. Man.
Speaker 5: I'm happy to be a part of it, the history
Speaker 5: of it, you know, because what you guys are doing
Speaker 5: is trend setting on some R and B ship and
Speaker 5: it's awesome. And I like how you allow it to
Speaker 5: just be a real uh platform.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: It ain't sugarcoated to please or please a certain thing,
Speaker 5: you know, And I love that about what you guys
Speaker 5: are doing. Man, thanks for having men cool. We love you, brother,
Speaker 5: I love you to us too.
Speaker 1: I love you too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, listen, my name is Tank, I'm Jay Valentine
Speaker 4: and this is the Army Money podcast, the authority on
Speaker 4: all things R and B. And I can't say it
Speaker 4: no better than this has been my nexte. I love
Speaker 4: on one of the greatest. Thank you, Little Steve.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. R and B Money.
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