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Speaker 1: And then and tie, Welcome back to the solid Burbo

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Speaker 1: Danry Razine, the one, the only, still, the incomparable, Sir hmm,

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Speaker 1: the you know, one of my my joys in college

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Speaker 1: actually good despite being maligned or despite being pushed in

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Speaker 1: And it all came to pass with Stetson Bennett's invite.

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Speaker 1: I like to recognize reel, Tye. You know that about me?

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Speaker 1: We'll see is the cop out answer? Okay, So, as

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Now, I've already pre bookmarked the what went

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Speaker 1: as completely unacceptable with regard to winning a PAC twelve

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Speaker 1: and a winning coach. Better to tell people early than late,

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Speaker 1: you know, Brutal honesty is better than leading people on.

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Speaker 3: I suppose we're just not used to seeing it. We're

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Speaker 3: not used to seeing. We're not used to seeing when

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Speaker 1: There is part of me that looks at Dion Sanders

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Speaker 1: to be a well deserved ego, with everything he's accomplished

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Speaker 1: about a fourteen percent chance that he coaches two bowl

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Speaker 1: games for Colorado. Wow. And I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: that the recruiting violations are so heinous and are so

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Speaker 1: crazy that Colorado has left with no choice to fire

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Speaker 3: I think if you're a Colorado fan, you've been dying

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Speaker 1: What should we know about that? Oh? Will Stein? He

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Speaker 3: chronologically unless you like set it up in a way

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Speaker 3: that I have not figured out yet. But every account

432
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 3: that I follow that we follow that tracks portal stuff,

433
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: it was just like, you know, rapid fire graphics coming out.

434
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 3: So I thought maybe we could take some time here

435
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: to go through some of the names that were of interest,

436
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 3: just a time of recording. By the way, I see

437
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 3: posted here in our chat that JT. Daniels now going

438
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 3: to re enter the portal.

439
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I saw rumors of that. That would make

440
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: it school number four. Oh my gosh. Think about the

441
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: mileage he has on credit cards, Think about the jerseys,

442
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: the sheer closet involved with being JT. Daniels, Think about

443
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: the number of academic counselors he just knows and probably

444
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: gets confused about. Unbelievable. But I hope, you know what,

445
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: I hope, just like everybody else, he finds peace, finds

446
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 1: his destination, thrive whatever. You know. Sometimes I and we

447
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: joke about the number of kids going to the portal

448
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: and is it out of control? Whatever? I understand it

449
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: on a certain level. You understand it on a certain level.

450
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just want to fly. I just wanna fly,

451
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, Mark McGrath, our guy said it best. And yes,

452
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: we wake up and see the news of all the

453
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: transfers every morning morning. But of course someday that'll that's

454
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 1: just gonna be us someday. So yeah, sometimes you just

455
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: want to fly. I just wanna fly. I don't know

456
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Speaker 1: why I did this. I don't know why I made

457
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Speaker 1: a sugar Ray themed portal episode. Yeah but here, we are, here,

458
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,479
Speaker 1: we are. You're back to the name. Just one more

459
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: time for me, if you could, ah.

460
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Speaker 3: Just wanna fly, beautiful, beautiful of course, here are some

461
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that just want to fly. Dan, Okay, just give

462
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: me it one more time. Just want to really just want.

463
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Speaker 1: Just wanna fly. Some names. Devin Leary, he's in the

464
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Speaker 1: port Oh baby year, come on, Devin Leary. Let's get

465
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: to Leirius. We've got dj Uyan Galala.

466
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: Maybe you've heard of him from Clemson, Hudson Card Luke Altmeyer,

467
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: Jeff Sims. Jeff Simms is like father time.

468
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Speaker 1: On this list. He's been in the list for like,

469
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, a week, two weeks now. He announced

470
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: his intention weeks and weeks ago. Yes, I know, but

471
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: he's been in. He's like he's been hanging around the

472
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: portal waiting for company to arrive. And we had Kyron drones.

473
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: We've Austin Reid, an interesting name from Western Kentucky. Brett Gabbert,

474
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Speaker 1: Brennan Armstrong, Moleek Horns be my boy, Mikey keene Uh

475
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: in the portal. Keton slovis gone. Tony Musket, something named

476
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Speaker 1: Tony Musket, Okay, Cade McNamara, Drew Pine, Okay, Graham Murtz,

477
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Speaker 1: Hank Bachmeyer, Brandon Lewis, Haines King, Deacon Hill, Jack Tuttle,

478
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Speaker 1: and apparently now JT. Daniels as well.

479
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Speaker 3: We also had filled Jerkovid, who's not on this list,

480
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: I imagine because he already committed to pitt Yeah, to join.

481
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: Fram McNamara's going to Iowa.

482
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Speaker 3: By the way, though, came McNamara at Iowa, Yes, exactly, Yeah,

483
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: So a lot of movement.

484
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Speaker 1: Those are just the quarterbacks, Dan, and I'm sure there

485
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: are more those are not like those are the starting quarterbacks, right,

486
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: There are a number of backup court like Oregon lost

487
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: their number three quarterback, Jay Butterfield, Like there are a

488
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Speaker 1: number of guys everywhere and a lot of the schools

489
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Speaker 1: and we've talked about this a little bit that just

490
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: finished their first season with a new head coach are

491
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: going to see like Oregon's gotten. Oregon's roster so different

492
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: looking just in terms of the twos and threes that

493
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: have announced their transfer, the biggest one being probably Dante

494
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: Thornton or Justin Flow. Thornton a big time tall receiver

495
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: from the East Coast, flow from southern California, former five

496
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Speaker 1: star linebacker. But yes, you're gonna see it at places

497
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: across the country who hired new coaches or just hired

498
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: new coaches. And it doesn't seem like a fit already,

499
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to run that kind of offense.

500
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, So you're going to

501
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: see that. Of course. I just want to go back

502
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: to what I consider to be one of the smartest,

503
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: most insightful. How about we say that college football minds

504
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: not me, not you. I mean you are, but it's

505
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: definitely not me. B Elliott talked about this a good

506
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: amount that this is going to be the most active

507
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: portal yet, not because things just keep getting crazier and crazier,

508
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: which they do on a certain level, but also because

509
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: this is the class of twenty twenty one. A chunk

510
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: of it saying we didn't go to schools during COVID

511
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: and make these visits unless you went to Arizona Street.

512
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: And we don't really fit in this place. And it's

513
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: cool that we tried to work it out because we

514
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: use as much information as we possibly could, but it

515
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: didn't work out or it's coaches unable to evaluate NC

516
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: and make sort of more blind offers than normal, and

517
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: clearly this player is too good or not good enough

518
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: to see the field. And so we're seeing a lot

519
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: of those types. And also with the advent of NIL,

520
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: all of the sudden guys who went to a school

521
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: and that school is not especially involved in NIL, be

522
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: it because it's smaller, be it because that's just not

523
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: how they roll. Now suddenly they see themselves having market

524
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: value and saying, I don't know how long I'm gonna

525
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: play football. Let me get some cash. And so we're

526
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: seeing some of those types. And with how often coaches

527
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: are moving around, with how often teams can come up

528
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: and down so quickly in terms of roster talent, I'm

529
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: just thinking this is for the foreseeable future kind of

530
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: the new normal. There are things about it that make

531
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: college football a little bit more difficult to like. But

532
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: also if you're Tie Hilton brand over there in Eastern PA,

533
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: ooh does it make you tingle? I love it.

534
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: I love every part of the transfer portal. And I

535
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: had planned out yesterday like an eight part tweet that

536
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: I deleted because I just couldn't get it right.

537
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: You ever do that? Okay, yeah, do that.

538
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: And I just think it is one of the new

539
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: wrinkles of college football that is actually interesting. And I

540
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: get it if you're a fan of like.

541
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: Tulsa or.

542
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: FAU, Eastern Washington, Eastern Washington, Yeah, Ford, Like, I get

543
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: why that would be a bummer to lose your best players.

544
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to think back to a moment in

545
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: time in college football when there has been so much

546
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: upheaval like that. Yeah, And I'm not talking about on

547
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: the coaching front. I'm not talking about on the administrative

548
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: how we do the playoffs level, but guys changing teams.

549
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: I said it to you when we were both in

550
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: Atlanta the other day. There is a distinct feel of

551
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: NBA free agency, that first day of free agency when

552
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: there's a whole bunch of tampering that you know has

553
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: gone on, but nobody can prove, and it's just a

554
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 3: bunch of guys changing teams like that, And right, I

555
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: get it again, if you're a fan of a lesser team,

556
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: why that sucks. But as a fan of a team

557
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: that really needs a quarterback, kind of exciting, kind of exciting.

558
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: Hope springs Eternal again on December the third or fourth

559
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: or whatever. Yesterday was the fifth. Right, So this is

560
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: a new dynamic in college football. It may not be

561
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: as active in years to come as it's been this

562
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: year for the reasons that Bud described. But this is

563
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Speaker 3: why I would suggest, if you are a group of

564
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: five fan, maybe pick out a Power five team as well.

565
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe pick out a Major League Baseball team or

566
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: Major league basically, but but have like a team on

567
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: both levels.

568
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Speaker 3: That you can root for because there will be a

569
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Speaker 3: lot of transferring in the future. Right, this is not

570
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: gonna this is not gonna stop anytime soon. Though it

571
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: might not be as active, just give yourself some other

572
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: avenues so that you're not totally distraught when players from

573
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Speaker 3: your other G five team decide to go elsewhere.

574
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and on the other hand, if you are a

575
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: G five fan and there is a promising backup who

576
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: didn't get his fair shake at left tackle or wherever,

577
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: you can also be the recipient of talent infusion. Right,

578
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: there's star power, but there's also you can lose star power.

579
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: But you can also you know, gain bigger bodies from

580
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: the Power five. You can gain interesting speed, you can

581
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: gain like well, this guy had a pretty catastrophic injury

582
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: and he didn't like you know, his experience at wherever.

583
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: But now he wants to go to Sam Houston State.

584
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: Now he wants to go to UAB. Now he wants

585
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: to go to Kent State to to sort of see

586
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: the rest of his career through for a second chance.

587
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: So you never know, And for humans like us, it's

588
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: crazy fun to talk about because essentially that's a reboot

589
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: every January, every across the sport. I mean, there are

590
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: a limited number of programs who recruit super well, keep

591
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: their guys in that town, in that program, and keep

592
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: advancing and have continuity, keep coaches around, but not as

593
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: many a year over year. It's hard. Every roster is changing,

594
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: maybe not dramatically, but to some noticeable degree. Excuse me

595
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: that we as humans again who are tasked with talking

596
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: about this in hopefully an entertaining interesting way. They're like,

597
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: oh shit, Dylan Gabriel is playing for Oklahoma. Oh bo Nix,

598
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: Oh Keaton Slovas, who by the way, has already re

599
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: entered at Pitt Like it's happening all over the sport.

600
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: Kayla Williams to usc where there is something fun about

601
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: the sport refreshing itself annually. I fully understand why that's

602
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: not fun, even if your team is getting better. Like

603
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: you become attached to players, you become attached to coaches,

604
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: You become attached to the idea that this roster saw

605
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: your school and said, Bam, Fayettville is the place for me.

606
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: Minneapolis is the place for me, Columbus is the place

607
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: for me. And then they treat it like, well, didn't

608
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: like it for a year, I'm out right, or I

609
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: looked really good for a year, and I'm getting some

610
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: chances somewhere else that looks good. They're putting something together

611
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: in Tempe. Gotta go. And that's the idea because a

612
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: lot of us are college football fans because we really

613
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: like where we went to school, and we hold on

614
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: to the absolute, not at all true thinking that every

615
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: college football player loves our school like we loved our school.

616
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: So you do have to suspend a lot of the

617
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: the false ideals that you might hold about the romanticism

618
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 1: if you, of course, and so that is different, but

619
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: it can also be if you can separate your fandom

620
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: from it kind of fun.

621
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Speaker 3: I treat it a little bit like the NFL a

622
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: little bit like college players moving on to the NFL,

623
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Speaker 3: because I mean, I have a team, you have an

624
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: NFL team. We were a little bit footballed out after

625
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: the college season, so we don't pay as close attention

626
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 3: to it. We believe, both of us do that college

627
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: football is better.

628
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: Yep.

629
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Speaker 3: But there are players that were just interested in Justin

630
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: Field's primary example. You know, I'm not an Ohio State fan.

631
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 3: Justin Fields is awesome in college. I want to see

632
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: him succeed at the NFL, in the NFL for the Bears,

633
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: and so I've paid attention to the Bears, right And

634
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: I could see it going that way for many college

635
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 3: football fans out there who don't have a rooting interest

636
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: in say Notre Dame or Penn State or Ohio State

637
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: or USC or Oregon. But if your players end up

638
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 3: there from your team, it gives you a rooting interest

639
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: on some level.

640
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a different era of college football.

641
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: It's not for everybody.

642
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: Right in silverbo at gmail dot com, let us know

643
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: how you feel about it. Some other names here that

644
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: I plase want to throw out. Those are just quarterbacks,

645
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Speaker 3: by the way. Some other notable running backs L j.

646
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Speaker 3: Johnson from a and M. Ray Davis from Vandy. Ray

647
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Speaker 3: Sanders has been in the portal for a little while now.

648
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Speaker 1: Former number one overall running back and a recruiting class

649
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: five stars. Yeah from BAM.

650
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Speaker 3: I saw he tweeted at Dean Sanders asking if there's

651
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: room for him. Shan Derrek Powell, Lorenzo Lingard from Florida.

652
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Speaker 3: I don't know if there are any other names that

653
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Speaker 3: jump out to you in the running back. So there

654
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: are a bunch of receivers here that I can get into.

655
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 3: Rivaldo Fairweather from FIU is going to be a name.

656
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Speaker 1: He will be a name.

657
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 3: His stock has risen since high school. Dominic LaVette from Miszoo.

658
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: We have Dante Cephis who will be definitely a name

659
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 3: to watch from Kent State as he.

660
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: Joins the portal.

661
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 3: Kyle Morlock. We have Dante Thornton from Oregon. We talked

662
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Speaker 3: about Dante Thorton. I think a little bit here. Here's

663
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Speaker 3: one Dorian singer from Arizona. A good year right emerged.

664
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Speaker 1: I think it was the number two receiver behind Jacob Cowingo.

665
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: That's one of those things where you're just like wow,

666
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Speaker 1: Arizona's future especially on offense, seems right portal right, that

667
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: you just you have to you have to let them

668
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: fly free, and you have to bring in the birds

669
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Speaker 1: who want to be in Tucson with great Sonoran food

670
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: by the way, really good strong food. Yeah, it's happening

671
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: all over. We saw it. Did you mention Cyprus the

672
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: Virginia corner? He's I didn't even get the corners yet.

673
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you were just talking running backs receivers. You

674
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: also get the situation where and maybe you can pull

675
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Speaker 1: up his name, because I forget it off the top

676
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: of my head. I think Rhode Island's right tackle is

677
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: like the most sought after offense Johnny Cornelius. You mean yes?

678
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: And so I saw pictures of him playing like he's

679
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: an All CIA player and we're just like this guy

680
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: six five, three ten and just absolutely mashing dudes in

681
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: the Colonial. It's time and so yeah, we're going to

682
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: see situations like that all over. I imagine Texas A

683
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: and M's portal entries are going to be robust after

684
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 1: this past year where it seems like culturally everything wasn't

685
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: always in a great place. And I say that as

686
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Speaker 1: somebody who look RAN's gonna lose probably fifteen seventeen guys.

687
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Speaker 1: And part of that is just guys didn't see the

688
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: field under Dan Lanning who hoped they would. And I'm

689
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: sure you know you're going to get some of that

690
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: at LSU, as we mentioned, Notre Dame, Miami wherever. But yeah,

691
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: they're going to be a number of makeovers and the school.

692
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: I think every school. We've talked about this with Brandon Huffman.

693
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: Every school knows it, Every school knows the candidates. A

694
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Speaker 1: lot of the coaches are not caught off guard because

695
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: they just are constantly probing to see where their players'

696
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: heads are at. And the schools that recruit high schooler

697
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: as well have been recruiting college players very well all

698
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Speaker 1: season long. That's right, even if that's not the intention

699
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: and the rule, it's our reality.

700
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Speaker 3: Also the oise we mentioned Theoiese, yep, but the Oiese's

701
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: name Jimmy Horn junior leaving US.

702
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Speaker 1: Have ARLN. Bruce the fourth leaving Iowa could be an

703
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: interesting name. They are a bunch here.

704
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 3: I won't read through all of them because it's far

705
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: too many to list off. I did find it interesting though,

706
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 3: that Austin Stagner is now going back to Oklahoma from

707
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: South Carolina. Just transferred there last season, but now going

708
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: back to Oklahoma as well. Just a bunch of names here, Dan,

709
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 3: you mentioned to Johnny Cornelius on the line, he's a name.

710
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: Who else should I go into? Deshaun McCullough is leaving

711
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 3: Indiana going to Oklahoma. Oh my, yeah, that's a relatively

712
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: big name along the defensive line. Some other names here.

713
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: I saw your boy Justin Flow leaving Ogon. Yeah, right,

714
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: he's leaving Oregon Central Cypress.

715
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Baca corner, Yeah.

716
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: Big cornerback for Virginia going into the portal, as is

717
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: j Q. Hardaway, the big time corner for Cincinnati. Al

718
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: Blage Junior leaving Miami. That one's sort of been known

719
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: for a little bit as well. But man, there are

720
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: so many names here. As you said, these are just

721
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: starter he's just starter caliber players that we're listing, but

722
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: so many backups. I mean, this will really have a

723
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: knock on effect as it relates to team depth rosters.

724
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: It's not done yet either. We will continue to see names.

725
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 3: We will continue to see names really throughout.

726
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: You know, you say Tony Grimes the former. I even

727
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: mentioned Tony former's top corner who reclassified and was the

728
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: next big thing at North Carolina who has been I

729
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: think pretty good. Goods hasn't been great, but was there

730
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: clear number one corner. And so given that raw talent,

731
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: you can expect I would imagine his name to come

732
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: up at a number of top top places because the

733
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: idea of, oh my god, this guy is potentially a

734
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: lockdown guy for us, just given the raw ability. I'm

735
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: sure it's tantalizing for a number of people. We can

736
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: go through the quarterbacks again, like it's wild to me

737
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Speaker 1: that we're going to see Spencer Sanders wearing a non

738
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: Oklahoma state I mean mentioned Spencer Sanders. I don't get

739
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, Like the number of guys and look

740
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: a lot of it's also going to come down to

741
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Speaker 1: draft decisions. We saw Michael Hennix at Washington already announced

742
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: that he's coming back. Anthony Richardson at Florida announced that

743
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: he is entering the NFL draft. I don't think we

744
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Speaker 1: have bo Nick's news, but he's playing in the Bowl Game,

745
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: which I've heard positive things about the prospect of bo

746
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: Nick's coming back, but we haven't seen any announcement official yet.

747
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: For Oregon, So they very much could be in the

748
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: mix if he decides to test the NFL draft waters.

749
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Speaker 1: So that's going to affect things. Guys who are sort

750
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Speaker 1: of on the fence looking maybe they get their NFL

751
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: Draft grades back and I was like, oh, that's a

752
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: fourth fifth round. I think I can improve that. And

753
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: so then they're not in the market, you know, as

754
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: enthusiastically for a transfer quarterback. So a ton of moving

755
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: pieces around the sport and these next what.

756
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Speaker 2: Do we have?

757
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: So we have what is when is the early signing day?

758
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: Is it two weeks from tomorrow? I believe so yeah, yeah,

759
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: So that's going to go a long ways. A man,

760
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: this is going to be a fast and furious breaking

761
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: news stretch in front of us. Yeah.

762
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Speaker 3: I mean the quarterback stuff in particular, I think has

763
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: has the most obvious ramifications for folks. Yeah, you know,

764
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: and and how that shapes rosters moving forward. You also

765
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: have to imagine, like I said, that if we are

766
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: just hearing about these guys entering the portal, they already

767
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: have offers to go elsewhere.

768
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: Of course, so we're the last ones to find out.

769
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: My hunch is that we will start to see some

770
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: of these dominoes fall here in very short order. But

771
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: I mean the names I did not even have time

772
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: to mention are notable. The Donovan Smiths of the World

773
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: from Texas Tech, you know, like the list goes on

774
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: and on chance Nolan from Oregon State.

775
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they're Graham Mertz. Did me mentioned with Luke

776
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: Fickle coming in fresh start? We'll see, So we'll see,

777
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: we'll see. Keep it right here. We will do our

778
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: best to try and keep this thing as up to

779
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: date as possible. But it's moving quick. It's moving very,

780
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: very quickly.

781
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 2: Do you want to talk some bowl games? I would

782
00:41:53,520 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: love to. Dan, Let's talk about some ball games, some

783
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: of your matchups. So again, you got to sign up

784
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: at verbawlers dot com. You're probably sick of hearing me

785
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: hearing Dan say that. Of course, the bow Confidence Pool

786
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 2: is my favorite pool because it allows me to exercise

787
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: some of that dark magic that I'm meant to Okay,

788
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: you know, some of that stuff that we don't talk

789
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: about on the normal seasonal type stuff that we do

790
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: when we're previewing games. We don't talk about this style

791
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: of picking because it's illogical, because.

792
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: It's not been tested. It's not it's not FDA approved,

793
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: but weird.

794
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: I've got a rule, a series of rules that I

795
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 3: live by when I'm picking confidence games, when I'm picking

796
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: bull pools. It has been tried and true. It is

797
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: not always successful, but it's been more successful than the average,

798
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: I would say, over the last ten years. Okay, so

799
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: I'm excited to bring that out. We will again have

800
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: a Monster Bowl preview that we're still working on. We're

801
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: going to do that next week in time for the

802
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 3: Bowl games. Help you make your picks. But in the interim,

803
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: sign up atverballers dot com. We're gonna have the game

804
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: spun up here posted to patreons that people can join

805
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: if they are ever so inclined. But for ballers dot

806
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: com is where we're offering that if you win, you

807
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 3: get some one of a kind exclusive Winter Wonders merch.

808
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: You made the sweater last year, the swisher last year.

809
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: We will do that again. I'm very excited to do

810
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: this pool. Can I give I generally have three to

811
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: five rules for picking in confidence pools. Can I give

812
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: you my number one rule in song form? Please? I'm

813
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: tapping on the conductor whatever podium easel. I don't know

814
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Pick against the mac, pick against

815
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: the mac, pick against the pick against the pick against

816
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: the mac, pick against the mac, pick against the mac.

817
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: Always always pick against the mac. There is That's the

818
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: full song. That was good.

819
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: That was like, Yeah, confidence pools work a little bit differently.

820
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: We're not picking against the spread, right, we are picking

821
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: straight up winners, and then we are assigning confidence points

822
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: to the teams that we are most confident about. So,

823
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: for example, the Bahamas Bowl is Mihami Ohio against UAB.

824
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: If you are especially confident in UAB to win that game,

825
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: m you would assign anywhere between one and like forty

826
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: one forty three. I don't know how many games are

827
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: points on that game. If you get the game right,

828
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 3: you get that number of points.

829
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: You do that for every game.

830
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 3: You can only assign one number for each game. You

831
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: have to order them from one to forty three, and

832
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: then based on how many points you get correct, at

833
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: the very end we add them all up in the

834
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: winner gets surprised. So it's very easy to understand. You're

835
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: just basically ordering these games from most confident to least confident.

836
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: And I have some rules that I like to go by.

837
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: You are you are truly America's the nicest human for

838
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: having the patients to describe what a confidence pool is,

839
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: because well, if people listen to this show, they don't know.

840
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: If you click on the page and you don't understand it,

841
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: it's not for you. We still have p people who

842
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: ride in and ask when they want to know what

843
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: the pointspri it is. They don't. They don't fully understand points.

844
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: So it's it's okay, it's all fair. Here.

845
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 3: We will get this started off here momentarily, Let's read

846
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: off what some of these matchups are. Okay, Yeah, Miami

847
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: Ohio against UAB and the Bahamas Bowl, got UTSA versus

848
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: Troy in the Duluth Trading Cure Bowl. I think we

849
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: mentioned this one a few days ago.

850
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: The Wasabi Fenway Bowl is a little spicy keg of nails,

851
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: a little bit spiced, not just the keg of nails,

852
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: but also now the Scott Saderfield Bowl because we've got

853
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: Cincy against Louisville. Yeah, we've got the Cricket Celebration Bowl

854
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: Jackson State, North Carolina, Central New Mexico Bowl is s

855
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Speaker 1: m U versus b YU. The Battle of the acronyms

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel LA Bowl presented by Stifle Stiffle.

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Speaker 3: We'll have to look that one up. Wazoo against Fresno State,

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Speaker 3: The Lending Tree Bowl is Rice against Southern Miss s

859
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Speaker 3: RS Distribution, Las Vegas Bowl, Florida against Oregon State, Frisco Bowl,

860
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Speaker 3: North Texas against Boise. As we make the turn into

861
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Speaker 3: the first full week of bowl games, we've got a

862
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Speaker 3: couple of interesting matchups here. Myrtle Beach Bowl Marshall against Yukon,

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Speaker 3: the famous Idaho p Tato Bowl. Two games on Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: December of the second twentieth excuse me almost at second

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Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan, San Jose State Liberty versus Toledo. Wednesday, the

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Speaker 3: Arnel Carriers New Orleans Bowl, Western Kentucky against South Alabama.

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Speaker 1: That's a good matchup, very much so. I said it

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Speaker 1: the other day. I'll say it again, that's a good matchup.

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Speaker 3: We've got the Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl Baylor and

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Speaker 3: Air Force Friday the twenty third, the Independence Bowl Louisiana

871
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: against Houston. The Gaspria Bowl between Wake Forest and MISSOI

872
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 3: uh huh, interesting matchup there, essentially contrasting styles. Hawaii Bowl

873
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 3: Middle Tennessee against San Diego State, Quick Laying Bowl, New

874
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: Mexico State against Bowling Green. We've got Camellia Bull Georgia

875
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 3: Southern versus Flow, First Responder Bowl, Memphis versus Utahs.

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Speaker 2: Date.

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Speaker 1: Here's where it starts getting interesting to me. Okay, all right.

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00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: Birmingham Bowl, Coastal Carolina against East Carolina. Interesting matchup to me.

879
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: Okay.

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00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: Guaranteed Rate Bowl wis Constant against Oklahoma State. No idea

881
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: what to expect there, absolutely no idea what to expect

882
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 3: in that game. Okay, Military Bowl, you see f against Duke.

883
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: Good matchup, I think so. Good matchup. Liberty Bowl, Kansas

884
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: against Arkansas matchup definitely. Holiday Bowl Oregon North Carolina should

885
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 3: be points.

886
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: Right, should be points? Yeah. Limited defense, especially against the pass.

887
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: Oregon has struggled against the pass this year, and they

888
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: get Drake May, one of the best, you know, five

889
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: to seven quarterbacks in the country at this point after

890
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: his down end to the season. Oregon will see who's

891
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Speaker 1: playing quarterback and we'll see what the roster looks like.

892
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: Oregon was without their offensive coordinator, of course, Kenny Dillingham

893
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: went to Arizona State, so a lot of moving pieces

894
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: for both of these. Schoolslley ball generally really fun to watch,

895
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: and I loved my time going to holiday bowls way

896
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: back when. So that's fine.

897
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 3: Texas Bowl Texas Tech against Ole Miss Michael Miss a

898
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: lot there actually, Yep. The Pinstripe Bowl, Bad Boy Mower's

899
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: Pinstripe Bowl. Now, of course they moved Syrahcuse versus Minnesota.

900
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: No idea what to expect in that game? None whatsoever? Yep.

901
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: Chee At Bowl Oklahoma against Florida State. M I don't

902
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: know what do you have a spread early on? Because

903
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: I think Florida's is going to Jordan Travis announced coming

904
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: back by the way, Yeah, big move, big move.

905
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: Yep.

906
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: Don't have the line in front of me, but I

907
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: would imagine Florida State's favorite Almo Bole. Texas against Washington.

908
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: Good matchup, right, These.

909
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: Are good matchups. These are really good teams.

910
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: Right.

911
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: You've got Sark against his old team. That's fine, really

912
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: good matchups. Duke's Mail Bowl Maryland against NC State. Okay,

913
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: the Sun Bowl pit against UCLA, Gator Bowl North Carolina

914
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: or South Carolina against Notre Dame.

915
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: Excuse me, oh my gosh, mm hmm.

916
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: Arizona Bowl Ohio versus Wyoming. Then we get to the

917
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Speaker 3: big guys. New Year six Orange Bowl is Tennessee against Clemson. Yes,

918
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: on New Year's Eve, got the Music City Bowl Iowa

919
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: versus Kentucky.

920
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, don't watch that game. Wait, isn't that

921
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: a rematch of a recent bowl game? Yeah, don't watch.

922
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Speaker 3: Don't watch that game, guys, seriously, don't. Sugar Bowl Alabama

923
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: against k State. And then we got two semifinals Michigan TCU, Georgia,

924
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: Ohio State close things out here on January the second,

925
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: the Relyaquest Bowl Mississippi State Illinois. The cheese at Citrus Bowl,

926
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: I saw cheese. It did post something that they have

927
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: a citrus face flavored cracker.

928
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: Okay, don't know how I feel about that, But are

929
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Speaker 1: there to cheese at bowls this year? They're too cheese

930
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: at bowls? Yere? Yeah, okay cheat? Yeah. The cheese ittification

931
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Speaker 1: of college football continues. Yeah, LSU versus Purdue.

932
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Speaker 3: The Cotton Bowl is USC against Tulane, and the Rose

933
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: bowls Utah Penn State.

934
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Speaker 1: A lot of fun games. I saw. Sean Clifford posted

935
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Speaker 1: a picture of himself outside of the Rose Bowl when

936
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Speaker 1: he was a wee lad. So that's a that's a

937
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: cool full circle thing. I saw Tulane is now the

938
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Speaker 1: like the betting favorite against USC Presumably that means Kala

939
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: Williams not playing in that game, but who knows. Alabama

940
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: Kansas State weird, just absolutely weird and will watch. I

941
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Speaker 1: will absolutely watch, you know, Big twelve champion Kansas State

942
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Speaker 1: take on Alabama. Clemson Tennessee. Uh so, no DJU club

943
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: level Joe Milton a little best, a little less shine

944
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Speaker 1: on Tennessee, but at least they finished season strong with

945
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Speaker 1: their win against Bandy LSU Perdue. Weird, but we'll watch

946
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: Mississippi State offense against the Illinois defense. Will watch? Uh

947
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: pitt Ucla, said Ben Howland. Is that the connective tissue there?

948
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: Former basketball coach for both UCLA favored by seven Dan

949
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: South Caro. That's in nelpass So that's the Sun Bowl

950
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: South Carolina Notre Dame Li Lou Holtz action.

951
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: Huh.

952
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: Kind of equally embarrassing for both schools. Yeah, I love

953
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Speaker 1: finding those the weird connective tissue between these these ball teams.

954
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Speaker 1: So no, I think all in all, it's a really

955
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Speaker 1: strong year of bowls.

956
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and at time of recording again, just with respect

957
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 3: to the playoff Georgia a six and a half point

958
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 3: favorite over Ohio State, Michigan seven and a half over TCU.

959
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: So again, we're going to get into a bunch of

960
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: these games. Next week, we're gonna do a big bowl preview.

961
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Speaker 3: We're gonna knock them all out at once, hopefully help

962
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Speaker 3: you make your picks again in the winter Wonders bullpick

963
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Speaker 3: and pool. Stay tuned on Patreon at for bowlers dot

964
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Speaker 3: com for more information on that. But a lot of

965
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Speaker 3: interesting matchups. You know, we get the bowl season every year.

966
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Speaker 3: You look at the matchups, You've got plenty of matchups

967
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Speaker 3: like Syracuse against Minnesota, or Maryland, NC State, even Notre

968
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Speaker 3: Dame South Carolina, where you just don't know what to expect.

969
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't probably expect. There's also probably somebody in

970
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Speaker 1: Greensboro or somewhere in the mid Atlantics saying, how are

971
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: NC State of Maryland allowed to play each other if

972
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Speaker 1: they're playing in the same conference? Like, how is that allowed?

973
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Speaker 1: Because usually they're like, oh, because I looked at when

974
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Speaker 1: I see on the line Marylyn versus NC Stateum, like, oh,

975
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Speaker 1: that's a familiar coupling and nice line. Yeah, all right,

976
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Speaker 1: that's all right in again, sOliver bo at gmail dot com.

977
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Speaker 3: Let us know your thoughts on Bowl matchups, on transfers,

978
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: on coaching news. We will of course be back here

979
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 3: in very short order to talk through much much more

980
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 3: going on in the college football world.

981
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Speaker 1: There will be more.

982
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Speaker 3: Transfers to add to this list on the show coming tomorrow.

983
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Speaker 3: It's the full interview that we did with our new

984
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Speaker 3: friend Burg Kreischer. Very very very very funny. Bert Kreischer

985
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 3: had chance to talk to him last week Cursive our

986
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Speaker 3: friends over at Spotify and Spotify Live. We're going to

987
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Speaker 3: air the full interview on tomorrow's episode.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

989
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Speaker 1: Love it for that guy there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

990
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: for myself, Tie Hilton Brand, thanks for spending like an

991
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: hour fifty minutes or so with us here getting caught

992
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: up on all things college football. They'll talk to you'll soon.

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00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: I meantimes. They saw it. Peace and as always, listen

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Speaker 1: extra nuggets