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Speaker 2: Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode

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Speaker 2: was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 1: Yo Yo Yo, What up?

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Speaker 3: This is fon Tigelow with this week's QLs classic. This

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Speaker 3: week we go back to June twenty seven, twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 3: with our guests Tessa Thompson, best known for her work

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Speaker 3: and Sorry to Bother You, and Creed Tessa Hillcourt about

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Speaker 3: falling into acting social activism, Tato salad, Philly cheese steaks,

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Speaker 3: and goat love.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what goat love is. That sounds very Caucasian.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to check it out and find out

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Speaker 3: what that is. But anyway, this is QLs episode number ninety.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy y'all basic.

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Speaker 1: On sit better Delivery. I'm no ex let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Suprema s s Suprema.

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Speaker 4: Role called Suprema su su Suprema roll call, Suprema suck

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Speaker 4: Supremo roll call, Suprema s.

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Speaker 1: Supremo roll Some Thompson needs raincoats. Yeah Heenan Thompson's got chokes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah a mere Thompson's a show boat. Yeah Ta Thompson's

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Speaker 1: a go.

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Speaker 4: Suprema suck suck Suprema roll called Suprema s Suprema roll.

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Speaker 1: My name is sugar. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I was high on weed. Yeah when I recorded the seed. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and when I saw cream.

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Speaker 4: Supremo, Supremo role came Suprema supremo role.

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Speaker 2: You're white people, Yeah, please use seasoning. Yeah, sincerely yours, Yeah, boss.

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Speaker 4: Suprema sun Suprema roll came Suprema so soun Suprema roll call.

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Speaker 6: Now y'all know I'm excited. Yeah, Tessa Thompson, Oh, my

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Speaker 6: sisters invited.

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Speaker 4: Suprema roll call, supremapt Premia roll call.

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Speaker 1: What you do, Suprema Suprema Really ste.

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Speaker 4: Supremai asshole, Suprema ruined.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to help is ruined.

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Speaker 7: Dear white Steve, go ahead, dear white Steve, gonna have

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Speaker 7: the microphone.

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Speaker 8: Please thank you. I'm reclaiming my time. My intro.

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Speaker 2: We can't punch in, We can't, no, no, you can't

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Speaker 2: punch and you can punch him in the face.

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Speaker 8: You like three more, dear white people, and then we

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Speaker 8: either who.

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Speaker 1: Made the roll up that we can't have a do

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Speaker 1: over you. Then it kind of loses the spontaneity.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you want to hear it though, I mean I

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Speaker 8: was curious.

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Speaker 2: To see how fast you because the thing is, whoever

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Speaker 2: my my determination on how good the interview is going

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Speaker 2: to go.

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Speaker 1: No, no, it's based on.

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Speaker 2: How fast you are on your feet with the roll call,

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Speaker 2: like Leon Silver is not answering questions.

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Speaker 1: It was like, this's gonna be a hard interview. Actually

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Speaker 1: it wasn't. But you know, I'm just.

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Speaker 8: Saying, man, yeah, but now you can't.

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Speaker 7: We can't do do over now that you even applied

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Speaker 7: more pressure onto what it was going to be.

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Speaker 8: It was going to be this spontaneous.

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Speaker 9: Supreme live in the moment, I'm here to say, yeah,

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Speaker 9: I mean I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Go no, not see Steve never ever interrupt.

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Speaker 8: Against what that was on accident of what happens to.

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Speaker 5: Well, you hesitated and I thought you were frozen, so

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Speaker 5: I tried to give you the first line he.

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Speaker 2: Was trying to man splain, was like line no, definitely,

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Speaker 2: but never in the history of our listeners are confused, Okay,

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Speaker 2: because Steve done through us all anyway. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: welcome to Quest Love, Supreme and Alternative Reality. This is

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Speaker 2: Quest Love and with Teams Supreme, Boss Bill. It's like Ea, Sugar,

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Speaker 2: Steve shout out to Fontigelow and his countertop and unpaid

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Speaker 2: bill somewhere on Sesame Street. But we're We're strong today.

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Speaker 2: Our guest today is the star of stage and the

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Speaker 2: small and big screen. Her credits include Creed from the

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Speaker 2: Rocky franchise Do You Write People? Uh, Selma, right, people,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry that again? No do over, There's no do over,

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Speaker 2: No Selma, Annihilation, Thor for Colored Girls, and this summer

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Speaker 2: she stars as Detroit and be critically acclaimed already, so

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Speaker 2: so much claim about this film. It's not even coming

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Speaker 2: out to July, and we critically claimed Boots Riley the

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Speaker 2: directorial debut, and the science surrealist comedy Sorry to Bother You.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: She's also been present behind the camera as well as

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Speaker 2: part of the Times Up movement, uh slowly helping to

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Speaker 2: redirect the course for women and people of color to

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Speaker 2: green her pastors and speaking of witch, speaking of pastors,

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Speaker 2: rumor has it that she's also a goat m Uh.

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Speaker 2: We would like to welcome the world's finest goat enthusiasts. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Tessa Thompson. I gotta ask, how did that whole testa

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Speaker 2: the goat thing come up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: That's a Twitter handle I expressed that I liked goats,

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Speaker 7: I guess on some public platform, wish he was here now,

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Speaker 7: And somebody started taking photographs of me and putting them

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Speaker 7: next to photographs of goats that look that are dressed

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Speaker 7: like I'm dressed, or posed like I'm posed, and it's

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Speaker 2: It's kind of scary, though, goat because that the yellow

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Speaker 2: and then put the goat in that yellow dress and

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Speaker 2: had it in the same facial express right.

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Speaker 7: And then there's some people, some conspiracy theorists or some

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Speaker 7: people that don't believe in just good things that think

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Speaker 7: that I'm behind this account, and I just want to

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Speaker 7: say that I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with I know you're not. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's the one thing in stalking you. Yeah. I went

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Speaker 1: through every every comment, everything, and I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is not her.

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Speaker 8: It's not me.

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Speaker 1: I understand.

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Speaker 8: I wish it was. I wish I was that you

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Speaker 8: drink goat's milk and eat goatmeal.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I'm not into goat products. I'm just into goats.

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Speaker 1: I got it. I see. I really wish that, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: Zarah was here, right you're on the account. It's great, right,

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Speaker 1: it's god.

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Speaker 1: Like that's the point where I was like, wait a minute.

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Speaker 7: And and then some people were tweeting like at Desil

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Speaker 7: Thompson is such a good sport, Like there's this idea

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Speaker 7: that I also look like a goat, and I'm embracing

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Speaker 8: But and now I'm cool with that too, Like my

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Speaker 8: eyes are whites set apart, Like it's fine, that's funny.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's start the interview. Stop. I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: know about the account. Yeah, welcome to this show. I

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Speaker 1: guess today you're.

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Speaker 2: Doing like a bunch of press junkets and things because

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Speaker 2: you're immaculately dressed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And all the years I've known you, I was like, wow,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen.

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Speaker 4: This is you.

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Speaker 1: When you're on television dressed. I never know. I mean

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Speaker 1: you know that, Like, I've never seen you look like

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Speaker 8: So that's what I say. She looks press junk ist

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Speaker 2: Yes, some people help me, who's your stylist?

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Speaker 7: These guys named Mike and Wayman, they're dope. They're friends,

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Speaker 7: they like were competitors sort of. And then they were like,

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Speaker 8: How does one How does a starlet find the perfect style?

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Speaker 1: I always want?

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Speaker 8: I mean that's what you want?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 7: They they actually kind of stalked me. They asked if

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Speaker 7: I was wasn't working with anyone? See this is what

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Speaker 7: you're talking about. I didn't have my my proverbial ship together.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 8: I was just like I would just show up, like

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Speaker 8: I'll just wear this and then not for my life.

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Speaker 7: But they dressed me for when I appear in public spaces.

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Speaker 1: They I meant for the meg.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they dressed me for the Megal and Tom Brown

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Speaker 1: How does okay? I was going to say, how does

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Speaker 1: that work? Like does a designer? I think to you first,

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Speaker 1: like what what is the what is the uh kind

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Speaker 2: Rest of the world kind of watches like through the window,

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Speaker 2: like what's going? But how does one do?

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Speaker 7: They are like tears of coolness even there, like you're

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Speaker 8: Okay because even I've reposted the picture. I think Lena

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Speaker 8: Waite posted the picture of your whole crew, and it's

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Speaker 6: It was you know, it was Lena, it was about

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Speaker 6: it was the T shirt. It was it was a

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Speaker 6: I was like, you know, this is the photo that

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Speaker 7: I mean, this is my first year, but it seems

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Speaker 7: And how that picture happened is there were a couple

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Speaker 7: And then and then White was like, no, you're an

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Speaker 7: really it was cool. It was cool because you're right

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Speaker 7: And so it felt good to look around at that

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Speaker 7: and like moving and shaking, are all these really red

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Speaker 2: Like, based on what I saw on Instagram, you guys,

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Speaker 2: i e. Not the Kardashians, Yeah, not Rhiann and not

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Speaker 2: j Low and you know, like the typical Blake Lively

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Speaker 2: you know, the comments like that seemed like the coolest

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Speaker 2: met Gallip Ball someone someone put up like the first

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Speaker 2: like there was no comparison then.

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Speaker 1: It was like that.

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Speaker 8: But anyway, Yeah, it's I guess it's a good time,

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Speaker 8: all right. So where were you born Los Angeles? Okay,

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Speaker 8: what part Hollywood?

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Speaker 7: Well, Glendale technically was where I lived when I was little,

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Speaker 7: and then Hollywood and then moved to the West Side

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Speaker 7: to get to a.

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Speaker 8: Better school district.

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Speaker 2: Glendale with the world famous roller skating rink. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the uh.

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Speaker 1: Every Hollywood roll bounce.

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Speaker 2: Like any time that you've seen roller skating in a

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Speaker 8: About to savans uh disorderlease roll bouts.

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Speaker 1: Seriously there.

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Speaker 7: I always acted in school, but I didn't think about

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Speaker 8: Let me go.

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Speaker 7: And at that point, like I didn't go to college,

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Speaker 7: Everything else I could sort of dabble in and not

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Speaker 2: the Where's the Potato Salad?

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Speaker 8: I think I rented it from next I want to

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Speaker 1: Wait, slight rabbit Hole? All right? Are you?

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Speaker 4: Are you?

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Speaker 8: Why?

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Speaker 7: Why?

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Speaker 8: Why can't we have it? Why is that a problem?

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Speaker 8: I love dos my car? You have a point? We

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Speaker 8: just I mean, it's just that we don't have enough.

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Speaker 8: We don't have enough, but we don't have enough content.

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Speaker 2: But then there's Mississippi burning and all this other stuff.

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Speaker 8: We're still but we don't have a lot of Wherever

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Speaker 2: his production can become funny as far as funny stuff

446
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Speaker 2: like silly do work.

447
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Speaker 8: They got dope kids, and that's not funny. Dope dope.

448
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't. I was too no.

449
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Speaker 8: I like dope. It was dope, but it wasn't funny.

450
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Speaker 2: You know why I was mad at the it's gonna

451
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Speaker 2: sound really really anal the band scenes. I hated the

452
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Speaker 2: band scenes because the music didn't match.

453
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Speaker 8: The band scenes are always tough movies.

454
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Speaker 10: Were the two that looks at your finger And it's

455
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Speaker 10: not even that, it's the fact you've got Pharrell's tenny

456
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Speaker 10: drums and plinky sounds and you've got people with actual

457
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Speaker 10: guitars and keyboards sitting there.

458
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Speaker 1: It just I couldn't watch it.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, you missed the plot. What about the plot

460
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Speaker 8: and the act.

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Speaker 2: It was too distracting. It was too distracting. Sorry, Yeah,

462
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Speaker 2: it's funny. We have the same outlook, but I was

463
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Speaker 2: willing to let it go. I didn't even gate that Okay.

464
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Speaker 8: Did you do a Twitter I like when you do

465
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Speaker 8: brands about things like Instagram retoring rants? Did you do

466
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Speaker 8: any rans?

467
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Speaker 4: No?

468
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Speaker 8: I didn't about dopey sounds and I do those you like?

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Speaker 1: I believe you're first.

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Speaker 8: I believe this is a widow. I don't understand it.

471
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Speaker 1: Is about to lose invites and the ghost Where's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's a real film, Steve. Also, the

473
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Speaker 2: Roscoes Chicken and Waffle Comedy is also.

474
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Speaker 1: A real film.

475
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Speaker 6: Well, Roscoe's is a real film. Roscoe Go Back Home

476
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Speaker 6: or whatever? That's the Martin joint with.

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Speaker 1: No, there's a.

478
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Speaker 7: Alright, see this all you have to do assume I'm

479
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Speaker 7: gonna go home. If where's the potato cells on Netflix?

480
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Speaker 7: I will watch five seconds of it? So then my

481
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Speaker 7: whole feet is like because you liked you.

482
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Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

483
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Speaker 8: And that's even all the deep cuts, all the deep

484
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Speaker 8: cuts are like this is a film, like wait ahead,

485
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Speaker 8: but I like for a white pot Oh no, that's

486
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Speaker 8: not what I'm saying. Have you ever had Japanese potatoes?

487
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Speaker 8: First of all, what do who tells them to do that? Okay,

488
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Speaker 8: yes they do that, they do that.

489
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Speaker 1: Have you had it?

490
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Speaker 7: It's delicious. It's like it's like eating a cloud, like

491
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Speaker 7: it's very mashed. It's really good. I'm sorry, it's good.

492
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Speaker 1: Where do you find this? I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I mean in Japan. But also like potatoes in Japan.

494
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Speaker 1: Huh, there's no potatoes in Japan. Cheese either, But.

495
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Speaker 8: The Japanese love cheese. They love mayo too.

496
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Speaker 1: Where's your source of information for this? Steve from from

497
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Speaker 1: eating in Japanese restaurants?

498
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Speaker 8: Oh wait, it's been in Japan.

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Speaker 2: It's about to be the most ignorant. All right, all's

500
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Speaker 2: ruined that. No, I'm taking my back.

501
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Speaker 8: So can I just say so? What you're saying is

502
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Speaker 8: you prefer I did not see a record. Do you

503
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Speaker 8: prefer the Japanese potatoes?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 8: I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I just

506
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Speaker 8: said that. I don't I don't dismiss. I don't think the.

507
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Speaker 7: Potato salad always has to be yellow. I don't want

508
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Speaker 7: fruit in my potato salad.

509
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Speaker 6: But if you're coming to the cookout, but American potato

510
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Speaker 6: salad should be yellow, how about that?

511
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Speaker 8: Can we agree on that? That's yeah, that's fine.

512
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Speaker 1: Now y'all got me thinking, no raisins, No raisins.

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Speaker 8: No, no raisins. But also I don't mind like a

514
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Speaker 8: different kind of mustard sometimes like a whole.

515
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Speaker 1: Brain, like a.

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Speaker 8: Yellow. But I agree with you Bill, y'all can't see

517
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Speaker 8: what he's doing.

518
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Speaker 1: But I only get my black carveroot.

519
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Speaker 8: Ain't no place invested, so she can she can let

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Speaker 8: her go with that one. We give her that one

521
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Speaker 8: because you win it.

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Speaker 1: We found an incredible rabbitue did we did?

523
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Speaker 2: How are you able to navigate and stay active in

524
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: a town that doesn't cater to you structurally to you?

525
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Speaker 7: And I think maybe I have my dad to think

526
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Speaker 7: for that in a sense, because I feel like, you know,

527
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Speaker 7: I got to see my dad be an artist do

528
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Speaker 7: his thing that felt really singular and not make concessions.

529
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Speaker 7: And sometimes it meant that we were eating really good

530
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Speaker 7: and stuff was great, and we were shopping what color

531
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Speaker 7: do you wanted in? Like I don't gotta choose both,

532
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Speaker 7: And sometimes that wasn't the case, you know, And so yeah,

533
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 7: sometimes you make money and sometimes you don't because you

534
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Speaker 7: just aren't going to do certain things.

535
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Speaker 8: But will we ever see you in a Tyler Perry

536
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Speaker 8: or will Packer moving? I've been in a Tyler for color, Okay, you're.

537
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Speaker 6: Cheating because I mean, really, you were in for Colored Girls,

538
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Speaker 6: and who could say no to the movie version for

539
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Speaker 6: Colored Girls no matter who did it. And I'm gonna say,

540
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Speaker 6: like I said to Miss Felicia that if Debbie Allen

541
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Speaker 6: would have Debbie.

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Speaker 2: Anybody, anybody, I gotta throw I wish, you know, and

543
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Speaker 2: Zing and Stewart had directed it like.

544
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Speaker 8: Supposed to, I know, and her treatment sounded so beautiful.

545
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Speaker 1: It was it would have propelled her past or at

546
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Speaker 1: least equal to right now.

547
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's yeah, but you know what, I truly believe

548
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Speaker 7: if the film were being made today, she would be

549
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Speaker 7: the choice.

550
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Speaker 8: And this is no shade to Tyler. It's like they

551
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Speaker 8: wanted to get that movie made.

552
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Speaker 6: Crazy when you think about her in retrospect, because at

553
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Speaker 6: the very least, I mean that we put her in

554
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Speaker 6: the least, but Ava would have been the director of

555
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Speaker 6: that movie Aba or in Zinger. I'm just saying, like

556
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Speaker 6: today in popularity and in sense of female empowerment.

557
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Speaker 7: And cultural conversation, which is like for us by a

558
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Speaker 7: we want to be able to tell our own stories.

559
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Speaker 7: If it's a you know, it's not that men can't

560
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Speaker 7: be involved in telling our story, but like if it's

561
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Speaker 7: a female centric film, like yo, let a woman tell it.

562
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Speaker 8: And he couldn't even give it to Debbie Allen. It

563
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Speaker 8: just makes me man your sisters, Yeah, she did almost

564
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Speaker 8: she did give us know that she was a part

565
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Speaker 8: of pronouncing her name wrong this whole time. Damn what

566
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Speaker 8: a culture for is? Please test it? How you pronounce

567
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Speaker 8: her name? Well, now I'm nervous that I'm pronouncing it.

568
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Speaker 4: Ca.

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Speaker 8: So you're right, it's Cassie Lemons. Okay, question. My dad

570
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Speaker 8: once told me that it's not SHOT's chart. That's Truegeria.

571
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Speaker 8: I think one knows that though.

572
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Speaker 1: The thing like, yeah, pronounced pronounce.

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Speaker 8: Everyone says, and also, did you guys see that I

574
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 8: was trying to do it?

575
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Speaker 1: Channel the four of us can see it physically described

576
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Speaker 1: what you were about.

577
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Speaker 2: We'll take pictures. We'll take pictures. Yes, oh my god,

578
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: this is like Wayne's World meets Let's just throw everything

579
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Speaker 2: out there. What did you have for breakfast?

580
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Speaker 1: No?

581
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Speaker 7: I had.

582
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Speaker 8: The embarrassed you're from Cali? I know I had. I

583
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Speaker 8: had rye toast with some avocado, uh, some greens. Very la.

584
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Speaker 8: It's just very l A.

585
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Speaker 7: I don't need eggs never in my life, not scrambled,

586
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Speaker 7: not omeleted. Not I have had a bite of for Toto,

587
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Speaker 7: that's it.

588
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Speaker 8: Never know a bite of it. But I don't. Yeah,

589
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 8: so breakfast is a hard thing for me.

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Speaker 1: You don't like yellow potato salad because well, the eggs done.

591
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's the mustard mirrors not.

592
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not I'm not sorry.

593
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Speaker 8: Your's bougie, I know, but this is the thing. Can

594
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Speaker 8: you be like, if you're truly a foodie, you don't

595
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 8: want your potato salad all that yellow. I don't know

596
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 8: what you're saying, test, there's a limit.

597
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Speaker 6: I mean, there's a limited a yellow, but you better

598
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 6: equal it out with some relish, you know what I'm saying, Like, Oh, hello, I.

599
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Speaker 2: Want to see we can do a whole ninety minute

600
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Speaker 2: episode based on potatoes salad.

601
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Speaker 8: I feel like I'm walking into dangerous territory. But I

602
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Speaker 8: will prefer Celery.

603
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Speaker 1: I love you so much. This episode is gonna be

604
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Speaker 1: super lit.

605
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 8: Thin ley slice. But I don't know. I like the crunch.

606
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I.

607
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Speaker 2: See why don't they put cucumber and stuff instead of

608
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Speaker 2: Now you're now pushing it.

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Speaker 1: I hate celery, Okay, I think it's I don't think

610
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Speaker 1: it's a purpose. It's the crunch. It's the crunch. Don't

611
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: you ship in there that don't taste like ship?

612
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 8: Celery doesn't taste like anything?

613
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: Mind?

614
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 8: You know what's speaking of publicist?

615
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 7: I've always said, don't you feel like sometimes when food

616
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Speaker 7: has a moment, like certain that has a publicist like

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Speaker 7: I s I E or like like remember or like Kale?

618
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Speaker 8: I'm like?

619
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Speaker 7: And also, who's the publicist for Romayne? Because Romaine right now?

620
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Speaker 8: Can I eat it? Is it safe? I don't know,

621
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Speaker 8: they need to talk to the publicist for Kale because

622
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Speaker 8: Cale was killing it.

623
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Speaker 4: I know, Ki.

624
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Speaker 8: K's not that culturally relevant right now. It was. And

625
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Speaker 8: my grandmother was like, what are you all talking about?

626
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Speaker 8: We've been calling for Kale, but we weren't calling it Kale,

627
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 8: which is greens.

628
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Speaker 1: What are you promoting right now?

629
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Speaker 6: Just guys, ask Vakriye questions as you asked the Vacrie questions.

630
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Speaker 6: I just wanted to know, and you probably can't really

631
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Speaker 6: answer this question. Well, first of all, how did you

632
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 6: feel about Valkerie not being in the Avengers movie? And

633
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 6: then is she going to be in the second one?

634
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 6: Because it seems like they might need some help.

635
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Speaker 8: I was I was I was cool with not you know,

636
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 8: I was doing other stuff. I was happy she lives.

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Speaker 8: That's hurt any word that she's going to be her assisting. Okay,

638
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Speaker 8: I don't know if you've seen The Avengers.

639
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Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen it Black Panther either. You say I

640
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Speaker 2: haven't seen Black Panther. I'm the only black person in

641
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Speaker 2: the world that has not seen Black Panther yet. Wait

642
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Speaker 2: why because I was busy doing what Well, yeah, the

643
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Speaker 2: headaches and stuff, I get it, I get it, but

644
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Speaker 2: just it's now Yeah.

645
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Speaker 1: Really I did not notice.

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Speaker 8: How does how does?

647
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Speaker 6: It's funny because I was thinking, since it was kind

648
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Speaker 6: of well Blackera was before a Black Panther, but as

649
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Speaker 6: a person in the Marvel scope of things, how did.

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Speaker 8: That feel like just the Black Panther was existing in

651
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 8: your Marvel world? Because that's man exciting.

652
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Speaker 7: Also just because like Ryan obviously is involved, and Michael

653
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Speaker 7: b so and Chad is a friend of mine. It

654
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Speaker 7: just and the film is I think so incredible. And

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Speaker 7: I think sometimes it's a tricky thing when you do

656
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Speaker 7: these big movies. You're like there's this sometimes implication inside

657
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Speaker 7: of the industry that like you have visibility, but in

658
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Speaker 7: some way you've like.

659
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Speaker 8: Sold out or.

660
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Speaker 7: You're diminished in some way, And it just felt like

661
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Speaker 7: it's so cool to see Black Panther mean so much

662
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Speaker 7: culturally and like push boundaries and open doors and be

663
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Speaker 7: a big old movie like that. It's sort of legitimized

664
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Speaker 7: why you you do movies that occupy that space?

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Speaker 2: You know.

666
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like it helped people look forward to

667
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 8: Valkyrie too, because.

668
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: H any truth to the rumor that they might consider

669
00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: your demand for an all female kind of you know.

670
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 7: The thing is, it's it's been spoken about so much

671
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 7: in the press that and I've asked Kevin Figi.

672
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 8: I'm like, do you feel trolled by me?

673
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 4: Like?

674
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 8: Are we cool? And he's like, we're cool.

675
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: I think, how did you pose it to him? Or

676
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: did you just post it?

677
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 4: Oh?

678
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 8: No, I like, we we asked him.

679
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 7: So we were at this Marvel like ten year anniversary

680
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 7: photo shoot thing and it was like a circle of

681
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 7: just women talking and we were like, oh, this would

682
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 7: be so cool, Like I wish we could do a

683
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 7: film together.

684
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 8: And I was like, well don't. We just asked him.

685
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 8: So we went up to him and we're like we

686
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 8: should do this? Should we do this? And then yeah,

687
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 8: it's exactly literally.

688
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would at least think that, at least for

689
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: today that.

690
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: Even if not for the reasons why they should do it,

691
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: but they could see that this is would be such

692
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: a monumental moment.

693
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

694
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Speaker 8: And also that it's commercially viable. I think that's the

695
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 8: other thing.

696
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: Are they still like being controlled by like the sexist troll?

697
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 8: No, No, I don't. I don't think so.

698
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 7: I think I think it's that they're their thing is

699
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 7: like super well crafted, and they have ideas in terms

700
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 7: of every phase they they they just have mapping and

701
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 7: they have they have ideas about timing and rollout and

702
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 7: you know, it's really masterful. So it's I don't think

703
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 7: it's that. And they also want to feel like they're

704
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 7: never you know, they have such an incredible relationship with fans,

705
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 7: but they don't like the idea that that they're ever

706
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 7: pandering to to fans, And so if they make a film,

707
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 7: they want to make it because they really believe in

708
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 7: it and it makes sense in terms of the scope

709
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 7: of the whole universe.

710
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: It is a matter of somebody coming up with the

711
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: right story.

712
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so.

713
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 7: And also in terms of like I think they're always

714
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 7: trying to find cool crossover and that's happening anyways with

715
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 7: Captain Marvel, and like.

716
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 8: You know, yes, that's what that was.

717
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Speaker 1: Were you into the Marvel universe as a kid?

718
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: No, not at all, not so, so how do you

719
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 2: did you feel as though you had to like, Okay,

720
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: I got to do my homework and yeah, because satisfy

721
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: these fanboys kind of yeah.

722
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 7: Because I didn't really know anything about it. And then

723
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 7: also because like you said, I really was not written

724
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 7: for someone.

725
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 8: Like me, so it was you know, really you know.

726
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 8: So yeah, so I felt like I really had to

727
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 8: understand the character in the world.

728
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Speaker 2: What was the because of the what appeared to be

729
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: the physical grueling process of the film as far as

730
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: your action scenes and stuff.

731
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: How much physical preparation did you have to do a.

732
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 8: Lot, which was tricky because I was making Annihilation.

733
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 7: I made Annihilation and then I wrapped that and like

734
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 7: three days later I was in Australia making Thor So

735
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 7: it was hard to balance those.

736
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Speaker 8: But I had to learn like sword work and fighting

737
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 8: and I had never done any of that stuff before.

738
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 7: And then also just like put on a lot of

739
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 7: muscle mass. You have the game wed yeah again, like

740
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 7: fifteen pounds.

741
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: Of just like muscle bab see.

742
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Speaker 1: I thought it was give you the grab. I mean

743
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: that's legit mean man, okay, I'm impressed.

744
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was not that I really had muscles. I

745
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 8: was strong. I could do a bunch of only cost

746
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 8: more money to put the muscles on you, you know,

747
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 8: through video than to actually just put the muscles on. Yeah,

748
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 8: but sometimes you just I mean, they v affects those

749
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 8: whole movies. So no, I really did. I worked really hard.

750
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Speaker 1: Give me and I ate a lot of stuff potatoes.

751
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 4: No.

752
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 8: Rotein. We can move past. We have other things to do.

753
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 8: What I want to ask you because the more and

754
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 8: more you get into these, uh these commercial roles like

755
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 8: you know, the Marvel, the West World. You are, of

756
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 8: course a big activist period. I won't just even just

757
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 8: say with the women's movement.

758
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 6: Have you felt somebody trying to kind of put the

759
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 6: class on you yet because you are now you're this

760
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 6: major commercial actress.

761
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Speaker 8: In a way you mean in terms of how I

762
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 8: use my voice. Yes, yes, that's no. I think I've

763
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 8: just had like a couple of.

764
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 7: Experiences where I'm like, is social media that the best

765
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 7: place to do that? And I think we're also in

766
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 7: this space right now of like internet activism, and it's

767
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 7: not enough. And I think the experience of really like

768
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 7: some of my experiences with times up and actually like

769
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 7: organizing and doing the work is just more powerful than

770
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 7: talking about what you're doing sometimes and you've been in people.

771
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 8: I appreciate that let people know who is really about.

772
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 7: That, But now I'm just mostly I just want to

773
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 7: talk about goats because it's like a safer space.

774
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 8: It's just the same.

775
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: So, I mean, I don't think you caught that much

776
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: black because a lot of people agreed with pretty much

777
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: everything that you've been saying.

778
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it made me follow you more to be honest.

779
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 6: Oh really well yeah, just in between that and the

780
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 6: essence speech, I was like, oh, I gotta go back

781
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 6: and get me some test of times.

782
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 7: But see that's the other thing in terms of the

783
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 7: essence speech, like it's like those are conversations I want

784
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 7: to have and I'm available to. Like, colorism in this

785
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 7: industry is real, and it's like has benefited me obviously immensely,

786
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 7: and because of that, I feel like a responsibility to

787
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 7: acknowledge it and to have nuanced conversations about it. And

788
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 7: I do that privately inside of my space. There's certain

789
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 7: roles I don't take. There's certain things I won't do

790
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 7: because of that. But I think engaging in a more

791
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 7: public conversation is something I'm willing to do. I think

792
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 7: it's just hard it, you know, in terms of like also,

793
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 7: it frustrates me that like what journalism has become, that

794
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 7: you could look on someone's Instagram and take something they

795
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 7: say in a comment and write an article about it.

796
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 7: Like it feels unfair. And I'm newly sort of navigating

797
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 7: what it is to be a public figure in that way.

798
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 8: And yeah, all of us, right, but so yeah, we

799
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 8: just live in public in a new way.

800
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 7: And it's not something that I'm particularly interested and I'm

801
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 7: not fond of it, and i'm not frankly, i'm not

802
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 7: good at it. Like I'm not say what I'm gonna say.

803
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 7: I'm I'm petrified by it. So it makes me want

804
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 7: to take like a step back, and it.

805
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 8: Makes you like retreat as you're about to post something

806
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 8: like well should I I don't that feeling of even

807
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 8: that is.

808
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I feel really like like Disney Marvel, like

809
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 7: I've been astonished, like no one's like, hey, like, you.

810
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 8: Know, we need you to shut the fuck.

811
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: No, okay, I'm sorry, hey man, it's this is the

812
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: way she said it. How do how does she say, Bill,

813
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: let's do it again.

814
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 8: To shut the.

815
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 6: He as you said at the end of that speech,

816
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, says we just I'm in the speech because

817
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 6: I said notes and everything you said at the end

818
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 6: of the speech, at the essence speech that you were

819
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,959
Speaker 6: hoping that you guys could have follow up.

820
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 8: Meetings to that and whatnot. How has that been going

821
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 8: with the sisters?

822
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 7: It's been good with the sisters, so so so one

823
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 7: thing that's exciting to report is probably so so in

824
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 7: terms of the structure of times Up, there are kind

825
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 7: of folks, there are subgroups, and I would say.

826
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 8: One of the most like.

827
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 7: Vibrant, active and engaged subgroup with d times Up is

828
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 7: called Woke Women of Color.

829
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's lit. It's like it's like it's just

830
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 8: very like robust and real.

831
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 7: And I think there's a lot there's just a real

832
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 7: acknowledgment that without that that we're such an important piece.

833
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 7: And historically, I think feminism too often has sort of

834
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 7: ignored the voices of women in color, women of color

835
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 7: and hasn't been.

836
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 8: In don't even because I have to tell people all

837
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 8: the time. I used to hate when the Hillary Swank

838
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 8: trailer would come on for her women's rights movie or whatever,

839
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 8: and then it would come on right before like the

840
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 8: Housewives of Atlanta. I'd be like, so, did these white

841
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 8: ladies know that we can vote for another like almost

842
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 8: seventy years? Yeah?

843
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: You know, like, yeah, how easy was it to navigate

844
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: your way in the Hollywood women's movement?

845
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: You guys gathered almost in the hundreds.

846
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: I know that you guys were, but how hard was

847
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: it to one explain, uh, to people that weren't aware

848
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: of the different.

849
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: Levels of obstacles that that we face. Yeah, exactly, because

850
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: I know in the beginning it was sort of like

851
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: kind of koumbayas. But then I talked to you know,

852
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: people out of the chat and they were like, you know,

853
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: explaining this one of them, Yeah, it's and there was

854
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: something that meant, well.

855
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, for some there's this there's a steep learning curve.

856
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 7: I mean real talk, like, there are certain rooms that

857
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 7: I was absolutely invited into because.

858
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 8: Of what I look like in the sense of safe.

859
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: Right did you call it? This feels like tokenism or yeah,

860
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: well I.

861
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 7: Was really lucky, like in instances that someone else called

862
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 7: it out for me, like like being in a room

863
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 7: and Jane fond of being like this is unacceptable, like

864
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 7: there just has to be more. And then that there

865
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 7: started to just be a conversation around like who's not

866
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 7: in the room and why And then also like once

867
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 7: you're in the room, like once you have a seat

868
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 7: at the table.

869
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 8: Are you really is your voice like legit heard?

870
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 7: Because a part of that when everyone is included is

871
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 7: like it just gets harder actually to do the work.

872
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 7: It doesn't get easier because everyone is coming from a

873
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 7: different point of view, you know, and so you have

874
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 7: to really like you're gonna be at the table.

875
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 8: Longer, probably when everyone is invited. So yeah, no, I

876
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 8: I yeah, I called it out.

877
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 7: But I think there was a real cognizance, you know,

878
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 7: a cognizance, and I probably.

879
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 8: Have like I don't have a ton of.

880
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know, it's clout.

881
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 8: Clout no bad yeah and ba and I don't I

882
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 8: had less to lose, I guess you know what I mean.

883
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 6: On the subject of the woman thing, It's interesting, how

884
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 6: I asked Rosario Dawson the same thing because even it's

885
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 6: there's a their color tears, and there's also like subgenres

886
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 6: of this industry. Like earlier, we were just talking about

887
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 6: how a certain company just pulled all our Kelly music

888
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 6: and I said to Rosario, I said, you know, when

889
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 6: you guys finished with the movie industry, you know this

890
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 6: music thing is a whole nother animal. Yeah, I mean,

891
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 6: so is the fashion thing when you really think about it,

892
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 6: like they it's a whole nother animal.

893
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 8: It's more ground. So how do you guys feel about it?

894
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 6: And I guess you would know that as well, because

895
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 6: even and Janelle is involved as well, But it still

896
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 6: feels like on a movie TV types of things.

897
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, it is. And Janelle she was saying this because

898
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 8: we had a meeting and she was saying, like.

899
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 7: It's tough in the music industry because there isn't the

900
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 7: same sort of like enemy to rally around that there

901
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 7: wasn't Harvey winstting there isn't this like public enemy number

902
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 7: one that you sort of take down. And in some

903
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 7: ways I think that that makes sense that it doesn't

904
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 7: just state the same kind of like intensity, But it

905
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 7: also felt like a problematic thing in terms of the

906
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 7: Harvey conversation because people don't want to acknowledge them that like,

907
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 7: if there's a systemic issue, like when you talk about,

908
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 7: you know, a gross abuse of power, you have to

909
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 7: also acknowledge just like the imbalance of power, which is

910
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 7: just as gross, you know, and victimizing, and that is

911
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 7: like much harder in some ways to take down than

912
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 7: a Harvey on.

913
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 8: The subject of that are kind of thing. It's hard

914
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 8: too because, like we were saying, he touches so many things.

915
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 8: There are so many other artists He's written for dudes.

916
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 6: Like it's like, how far as women do we, for

917
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 6: lack of a better term, take these dudes down because

918
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 6: there's so much.

919
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 8: And yeah, and it's also not just these dudes.

920
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 7: It's also just like this this system, and there are

921
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 7: also like women that support that system.

922
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 8: It's not just men, you know too, Yeah, because women

923
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 8: a lot of women have profited.

924
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: So I know you're saying for profit, but do they

925
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: support it or is it just a thing of like

926
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: I can't fight it, so I might as well roll

927
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: with it enabling.

928
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 8: It depends on a woman, don't you think there's a

929
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 8: certain way and your system.

930
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, so there's this really rad woman that works with

931
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 7: Times Up but worked with the Annenberger name is Stacy Smith,

932
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 7: and she talks about women that support the patriarchy. This

933
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 7: is so nerdy, but they say that she says that

934
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 7: they have high social dominance, which means that you have

935
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 7: like a vested interest in protecting a system.

936
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 8: That empowers you, like the overseer exactly, so that they're

937
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 8: so that. Yeah.

938
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 7: So sometimes people will say, like, particularly these conversations about

939
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 7: like just hire more women, It's like, but what kind

940
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 7: of women are you hiring?

941
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 8: Because just hiring a woman isn't enough.

942
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 2: Being as though you haven't had designs on acting younger

943
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: and you just quote wound up in it.

944
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: And I'm certain that you didn't think, like early in your.

945
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 2: Acting career, like doing the Veronica Marsdiy's whatever, that you'd

946
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: be doing all this social activism.

947
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 7: And I don't know if that's true, though I think

948
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 7: that was the thing for me where I was like,

949
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 7: I don't know if I want to be in the

950
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 7: pursuit of something I admire I don't admire, Like I

951
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 7: think I've always wanted to be involved in in activism

952
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 7: in some way, and even when I look back I

953
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 7: didn't realize it at the time, but when I look

954
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 7: back at Veronica ka Mars, that character, you know, like

955
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 7: there she would say lines like you know, someone said,

956
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 7: why why are you standing around here stalking?

957
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 8: And she would say, what you mean standing while black?

958
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 7: Like even that character wanted to sort of subvert ideas

959
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 7: of like the sassy friend on a television show where

960
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 7: like the very first part I ever played was an

961
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 7: episode of Cold Case where I play a queer woman

962
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 7: in nineteen thirty, you know, who can't live with her

963
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 7: partner because that wasn't available to her at the time.

964
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 7: So I feel like the things that have always compelled

965
00:48:54,520 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 7: me have have lived in that space by designer subconscious

966
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 7: by design or by by kis med.

967
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 8: Or I don't know all right.

968
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: Well, as far as uh, your work, I want, I

969
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: definitely want to talk about how did you prepare for

970
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: your role as Diane Nash and sma.

971
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 7: Uh, Well, I I got really lucky in the sense of,

972
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 7: you know, a lot of the leaders that were still

973
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 7: around and available to talk to us did and then

974
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 7: I read tons I didn't. I couldn't meet Diane before

975
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 7: we made the film. There were some complications around that

976
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 7: it's complicated. I think when you're telling story, when you're

977
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 7: telling a story about people that lived during that time,

978
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 7: and you also want to have a balance of being

979
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 7: able to take artistic license and tell the story that

980
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 7: you need to tell, and and so.

981
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: It bigraphies are a little harder to do the person.

982
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 7: They're hard to they're hard to do. But Diane, after

983
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 7: seeing the movie, was super happy with it. She told

984
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 7: a really funny story that she you know, she they

985
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 7: did ask her in terms of who she liked, and

986
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 7: she just like, I just want someone cute, which was

987
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 7: she's just being funny.

988
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: But I did. I went.

989
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 7: I went to Chicago where she grew up and and

990
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 7: you know, sort of trace her steps and talked to

991
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 7: a lot of people that knew her, and.

992
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, found as much as I could about her.

993
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 11: Speaking of prep work, she sticks, yeah, wait, wait, wait,

994
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 11: pat wait, I just say you said, but Selma just

995
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 11: wanted to ask you because I know you're going to

996
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 11: create was that your heaven, me being surround being with Ava,

997
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 11: being with you know, being telling that story.

998
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 8: Those actors that cast Oprah the end of World, the

999
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 8: end of my world, just like the sense of who

1000
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 8: we imagine Tessa is in my in my head, I

1001
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 8: was like she was happy. I was happy.

1002
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 7: But it was funny because we had a lot of

1003
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 7: conversations and cast like we would talk like, well, what

1004
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 7: kind of what part do you want to play? And

1005
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 7: so often it would be like a character that's existed,

1006
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 7: like so and so wants to play Lean to Horn

1007
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 7: and so and so I wants to play James Baldwin

1008
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 7: and that's great, and I have a list of people

1009
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 7: that I'd love to play. But I also I'm like,

1010
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 7: what about just playing a fictional character that's iconic and

1011
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 7: and so that's my heaven too, Like to get to

1012
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 7: play something that does that isn't real?

1013
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: Do you scream right? Like do you have aspirations of Yeah.

1014
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 7: I've been writing a little bit something and kind of

1015
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 7: want to do I was talking to Greta Gerwig. I

1016
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 7: sat next to her at the met Ball and we

1017
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 7: were talking a lot about writing. She has such like

1018
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 7: incredible things to say. Sometimes you have this idea that

1019
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 7: you just like you have to wait for some lightning bolt,

1020
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 7: And the truth is it's just like working diligence and

1021
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 7: sitting down and like committing to write something and be

1022
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 7: bad at it for a while and get better.

1023
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: I love her approach to like, I'm a big fan

1024
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: of her. The mumble Chord me were part of that.

1025
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 8: No, so this is the thing I really wanted to be.

1026
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 7: So I went to this period where I was like,

1027
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 7: I'm gonna make a mumble core movie like that that.

1028
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 7: None of them have existed for us except for Medicine

1029
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 7: for Melancholy, which was my introduction, of course to Mary Jenkins.

1030
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: It's a movement Greta Gerwork, who uh she directed. She

1031
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: was up for a director this year The Girl for Ladybird,

1032
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: but she did Francis Has. It's weird now because it's

1033
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: sort of like she's the commercial darling and the newbie

1034
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: on in the commercial.

1035
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 8: Which she's been around for. She's been seeing her face before.

1036
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: Mumble Core. I mean, I guess you can say it's

1037
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: a brand of is it Brooklyn.

1038
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 7: It's sort of like twenty somethings. Oftentimes it's it's oftentimes

1039
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 7: the film takes place in a very short swath of

1040
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 7: time where like nothing happens, but everything happens. I think

1041
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 7: it got the word mumble core. Sometimes non actors are

1042
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 7: in it because this sound design sometimes wasn't good.

1043
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 8: So that's sort of how but there's a whole movement

1044
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 8: like dialogue more than plot exactly.

1045
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: It's it's uh.

1046
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 2: I would say that, no, no, no, it's it's our

1047
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: It would be the American version of Dogmen ninety five,

1048
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: where Dogmen ninety five was like there was there was

1049
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: a film challenge of Okay, a bunch of Danish filmmakers

1050
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: said that, okay, we're going to make film.

1051
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: With natural light, no soundtracks. It's it's almost like a

1052
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: bunch of.

1053
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: Students or or knowledgeable filmmaker makers challenging themselves.

1054
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 8: A filmmaker makers, you you bring.

1055
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: Out the three year older means stop. Okay.

1056
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 8: Meanwhile, I'm like, you're not talking about that Dogma with interest?

1057
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: Join now, I'm not talking about Dogma of the movie

1058
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: Dogma ninety five was uh. Yeah.

1059
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 2: It was like a movement uh in the nineties of

1060
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: filmmakers challenging themselves to these restrictive uh ways of making

1061
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: film as a way of the equivalent of walking on

1062
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: top of the Empire State Building drunk with your eyes closed.

1063
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 7: See the interesting thing, So the genre is really I mean,

1064
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 7: apart from Barry Jenkins medicine for melancholy it's all white filmmakers.

1065
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 7: And I remember, like this was before I really knew

1066
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 7: about like Charles Burnett, like and you look at his

1067
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 7: film and you're like he was doing the very same

1068
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 7: thing but doesn't get credit. And I mean he's not mumblecore.

1069
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 7: But just like being like, I'm going to make a

1070
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 7: film with what I have available to me, right, you know,

1071
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 7: and use non actors and tell a story that's contained

1072
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 7: that I can do, and make beautiful images and not

1073
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 7: have it be plot driven.

1074
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 8: But yeah, there was a period when I was really like,

1075
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 8: is do I need to make a movie?

1076
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 7: Also because I was playing parts where I was like

1077
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 7: I was doing I was stuck in this period of

1078
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 7: working on television and really dissatisfied. And so I first

1079
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 7: found Greta in that time, and so to see her,

1080
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 7: to see what she's done now, to see it enter

1081
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 7: this space where she's being acknowledged.

1082
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 8: It's just so cool. It Yeah, it takes a while.

1083
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: I see that for you, not that I'm trying to,

1084
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: you know, push my vision off.

1085
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 7: Will love you for it, because he's like anytime I

1086
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 7: get new stuff, he's just like, cool, cool, When are

1087
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 7: you gonna write?

1088
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 8: When are you gonna make a movie and now you

1089
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 8: know you have a producer here that will give you

1090
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 8: the money for it. No Jesus no, but it's a movie.

1091
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 8: You always need more money. Yeah, don't you always need more?

1092
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: I'll be at her door, Yeah, tell her mir Thompson

1093
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: a mirror.

1094
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 8: That's days like.

1095
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: Us quest love.

1096
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm trying to hint towards a job here, okay Philadelphia?

1097
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, no, no, no, this is not what the

1098
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: question that you think it is.

1099
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: But when you told me that you were going to

1100
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: start researching your role for IM about to say Rocky uh.

1101
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: For Creed Rocky eight wacky ye wait, but.

1102
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: I remember distinctively, distinctively telling you, yeah, what you shouldn't.

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00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 7: Do, you did, like because you were also do you

1104
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 7: remember you were concerned for my well being?

1105
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 8: Mysage? Yes, why he didn't want me on Broad and Erie.

1106
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: Like she did the very things that I told her

1107
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: not to do.

1108
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 8: North Philly. Yeah, she went Max Cheese Steak. Yes, that's

1109
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 8: not even my favorite place, but that's goods Max two times. Yes,

1110
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 8: I know you still have this maxes b What happened

1111
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 8: with Max?

1112
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: Give you not dog?

1113
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 8: They like they don't know not not that And Philly

1114
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 8: you know, they don't be knowing you.

1115
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: Here's the deal. You're right, You're right, you're right. But

1116
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: here's the thing.

1117
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 2: Though, Like, if you're going to treat me like an asshole,

1118
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: be consistent about it, Like I want you to be

1119
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: insisted about it, but don't three seconds later find out

1120
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: I am who I am and you start chasing my

1121
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: car down the block like bro, wait, wait, we.

1122
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: Didn't know the street I have.

1123
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: I have always listed them whenever any international magazine asked me, like.

1124
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Speaker 1: Name your cheese steaks? No, no, they are number one.

1125
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Speaker 1: And so when she said, like, you know, go to.

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Speaker 8: Larry's yours, I'm chicken cheese steak. No, I'm chicken cheestick

1127
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 8: to as far as chicken cheese steaks, cables got it?

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00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I mean.

1129
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Speaker 8: You know what I am now, I'm mushroom cheese steak.

1130
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 8: Well there are Cape City veg Yeah, yes, because I'm

1131
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 8: l a Now so I'm a burger. Oh my god, listen, mommy,

1132
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 8: thank you. I've also never had a hamburger in my life. Really,

1133
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 8: I've had.

1134
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: A part that is not fair.

1135
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: Well, I was just saying that, uh me telling you

1136
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: what spots to avoid in Philadelphia to research your roles.

1137
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: You the exact opposite, because that's because what made you

1138
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: do that?

1139
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 7: Because I was like that, that's some real Philly ship.

1140
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 7: You're trying to prevent me because you don't think I'm ready.

1141
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: So when you went to Chicago, you went to Kabreena

1142
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 2: and Green. No, oh, that's what I'm saying.

1143
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, what is decrete was a different movie? Right, like

1144
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 8: it was a different it was.

1145
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm just saying that, you know, did you talk

1146
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: to anything? Would you go? Would you go would you

1147
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: go to Ethan Butler? Damn? Yeah, you think I've been Butler? Yeah,

1148
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: but you know about Eightan Butler.

1149
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, like I would be like, yo,

1150
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: you know the spotsicles that you might not want to

1151
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: go to Athan Butler at.

1152
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 8: Nobody's talking with Tessa Thompson Like at the end of

1153
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 8: the day, I don't think so I think nobody really

1154
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 8: I don't know. I think so.

1155
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just well, you did it already, so congratulations

1156
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: and now you're.

1157
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 8: Doing it again. Right You're in Philly as we speak,

1158
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 8: doing another greed.

1159
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 4: I was.

1160
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 8: I was at Max's the week before last. Are you

1161
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 8: and Ryan back together too? Is he back in Creed.

1162
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 7: No, a new filmmaker named Stephen kemple Jr. Really dope

1163
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 7: dude made this film called The Land that was it

1164
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 7: Sundance face.

1165
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: No, I just don't like messing with any formula that's

1166
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 2: not broken. So I didn't know that Ryan wasn't doing

1167
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: Creed too.

1168
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 8: He's not. It'll still be great. It's gonna be great.

1169
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 8: Stephen kimple Jr. Is a great filmmaker.

1170
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Speaker 1: You don't have to Oh, I was saying enough people

1171
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Speaker 1: rocky in it? What is uh?

1172
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Speaker 6: Two actors I want to ask you that you work

1173
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 6: with that first of all, Jeffrey Wright and the Keith

1174
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Speaker 6: stans film.

1175
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Speaker 8: I just have to know, how is it acting opposite

1176
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Speaker 8: of those two men? Are you thirsty?

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01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 4: Well?

1178
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 8: When it hold up?

1179
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 6: I'm not thirsty on Jeffrey Right. Jeffrey Right is everything

1180
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 6: as far as an actor to me, he's.

1181
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 8: Your talent thirsty. No, I'm not, don't do it. I'm

1182
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 8: not hold up now.

1183
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 6: I'm the keep thirsty because he is one of the

1184
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 6: only black male actors that I know that you know

1185
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 6: prophesizes about the black woman.

1186
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 8: So in that sense, yes, I am in level of

1187
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 8: Keith Stansfield.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I got I guess I'm on the regular,

1189
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 6: so I'm not really chasing, but I'm curious as an actress,

1190
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 6: what's it like with Jeffrey Wright.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he's so good, Like he's so good, and

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Speaker 8: he's like, yeah, it's sort of like a not a masterclass,

1193
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 8: but he's yeah, he's just he's just really, really really good.

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Speaker 8: That's all I can say. It's like a pleasure to.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been intimidated by a fellow actor that

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Speaker 2: that has such a pedigree or such a level of

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Speaker 2: acting or Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Harris, he scared me scared. I was a little scared

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Speaker 8: to work with him. Really, yeah, I was a little

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01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 8: scared about and.

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Speaker 1: Also in terms of I must deliver this perfectly or

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Speaker 1: he just.

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Speaker 7: Scared Like so, so I I went to the Sundeath

1204
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 7: Labs one year and I workshopped this film that I

1205
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 7: just came out. I tried Baca this film called Little Woods,

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01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 7: and Ed Harris was the acting advisor, which would mean

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01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 7: you'd be shooting these scenes and the acting advisor comes

1208
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 7: in to see how things are going and give and

1209
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 7: gives tips and he just doesn't mince words. So I

1210
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 7: was like playing the scene I had this idea that

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01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 7: this character had, you know, really sort of stiff spine

1212
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 7: and anyways, I had this idea and he came in

1213
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 7: and I could just hear him at the monitor like

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01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 7: stiff stiff, and he came over.

1215
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Speaker 8: To like give me a note.

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01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 7: He's just like he just says what he feels and

1217
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 7: he's so impulsive and he's so gifted. And then the

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Speaker 7: first day that I came to work with him on

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01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 7: West World, he just said to me, I voted for

1220
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Speaker 7: you by the way he liked my work and created

1221
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Speaker 7: and that made me so proud, but also like just

1222
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 7: intimidated me because I was like, oh God, I have to.

1223
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Speaker 8: Like be good today. But he's he's so yeah, he's

1224
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 8: so good. I'm such such a fan. And la Keith,

1225
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Speaker 8: can you tell the people how close he is to

1226
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 8: this character in Atlanta in realize, because I know a

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01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 8: lot of people really think that in Atlanta he's not acting.

1228
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 8: But as far as sorry to bother you, yeah, he

1229
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 8: is an actor.

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Speaker 7: So he's an actor. He's so he's so gifted. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I think he brings a lot of himself to Darius,

1232
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 7: and I think he ad lips and stuff.

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Speaker 8: But you know who is nothing like his character that I.

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01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 7: Think people assume is Brian who plays paper like he's

1235
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 7: like that's that's a whole different human, like he's a

1236
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 7: shape shifter and not that la Keith isn't.

1237
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 8: But but Brian really like it's night and day. This

1238
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 8: is us too. Yeah, because Brian did this is Us.

1239
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 8: I'm still in the first season when Grandpa's bye, I

1240
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 8: live for that. I was got by Grandpa. So he's

1241
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 8: one of Grandpa's old friends. You'll see it's really good.

1242
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: Yes, the.

1243
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 8: Season two and y'all are just late. We're in season three.

1244
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 8: If this is Us, no, I'm just like, it wouldn't

1245
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 8: have been a spoiler. We didn't live in a binge.

1246
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: Watch World's just okay.

1247
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 8: It was like a too you gotta get this is us.

1248
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing to watch the show. It's too emotional

1249
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: for me. I watch it. We love it, and I

1250
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: know I think it started like the same time my

1251
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: father died. That's what I'm saying. Process.

1252
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 8: This is the thing.

1253
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 7: The show is Earnest, and I like that. You don't

1254
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 7: think it's Ernest's.

1255
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't believe it's Earnest. Like Ernest tries and earnest

1256
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: means well, but ernest it may be a ground world

1257
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: double never home run, but I feel.

1258
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Speaker 8: That's your death. Yeah, I don't know about your death definition.

1259
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: Oh definition, Okay. I think earnest means.

1260
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 8: Well, but felt are they.

1261
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: I believe in this is us.

1262
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 8: I believe in this is us to me too. I

1263
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 8: believe it's like it's real. It makes it evokes.

1264
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: There are some earnest things that I roll at, like,

1265
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 1: oh boy, and it's.

1266
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 6: Real life conversation and some of these conversations were not

1267
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 6: having but we should like the fact that the white

1268
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 6: daddy went and got.

1269
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 8: The training to raise the black boy and oh my god,

1270
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 8: it was Yes, they're just borre.

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01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 6: I think they're too progressive. They're progressive at times it's like, oh,

1272
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 6: some people aren't ready for this.

1273
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 7: It hardens me though that because it's a very successful show,

1274
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 7: and I'm like, that's cool that America is into that

1275
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 7: right now?

1276
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah legit. Yeah yeah, because

1277
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 8: sometimes I can be I don't watch a lot of

1278
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 8: like television, like network television, but I watched.

1279
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 2: That and I was like, all right, I was shocked

1280
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: because when I happen to be at the upfronts. Upfronts

1281
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 2: is basically, in the shortest way possible, it's sort of

1282
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: a convention for advertisers and they come to see which

1283
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: shows they're going to invest in. So all these networks

1284
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 2: put together these little workshops, like NBC will rent out

1285
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: Radio City Hall for maybe two days, and the President

1286
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: will come in and Jay Loo will come in with

1287
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 2: the Thursday night lineup, and Jimmy Fallon will come in

1288
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: and do some comedy and you're basically watching night day

1289
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: after day. Monday night, our lineup will be no No, no,

1290
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: no No, The Voice and no no, no No. And

1291
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 2: as an advertiser, you're like, Okay, I want my product

1292
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: on the Voice and this particular show, and I think

1293
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 2: I like this, and they introduce what the news shows

1294
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: are going to be.

1295
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 7: I swear I actually, until this moment, did not know

1296
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 7: what the upfronts were. Like I have participated, but I

1297
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 7: didn't realize it was for advertisers.

1298
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 8: Hell yeah, thanks for that.

1299
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 2: Anytime you watch TV and you see commercials or product

1300
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: product placement, yes, upfront, so they get in early so

1301
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: like and sometimes it backfires.

1302
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: So think of like when Michael J. Fox was returning

1303
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: to COY with the Michael J. Fox Show. Advertisers were excited,

1304
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: so they all lined up like Okay, this this looks

1305
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: like it's going to be a ratings winner, and then

1306
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: they put all their money into The Michael J. Fox

1307
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: Show and then it busted after a year.

1308
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: So that's sort of who infamously, I think Kevin Hart

1309
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 2: show got dropped at he found out that his comedy

1310
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: on ABC, that his show got dropped right before you're

1311
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: supposed to go and stand. Yeah, so that's the downfall

1312
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 2: upfront anyway. So at the upfront I saw this is

1313
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 2: us and was sort of like, I don't know if

1314
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: this is going to work for m And then so

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Speaker 2: can I ask how did knowing Boots Rally Wolly, This

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Speaker 2: is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Okay, knowing Boots Riley the way that I do, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Extremely shocked at the amount of instant support that he had.

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01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 2: I knew that he had a friend in Patton Oswald

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01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 2: and that he had a friend in David Cross. And

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01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: David told me how he almost this project almost passed

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01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: him by, Like I think like his assistant saw the

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01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 2: script read.

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01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: A little bit and was like, Yo, you really need

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Speaker 1: to read this.

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01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 2: David was going to pass on it like, yeah, I

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01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: got your script, I'm busy, and then the system was

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01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 2: like you gotta do this shit? How were you all convinced?

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01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 2: And I never knew that he had this, this, this

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Speaker 2: level of talent in him.

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Speaker 8: I think this this.

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Speaker 7: Script was so singular and he had been trying by

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01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 7: hook up at Kirk to get it made any which way,

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Speaker 7: Like he made.

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Speaker 8: A record by the same title, sorry to bother You

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01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 8: to entice people to make the movie. He's just like

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01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 8: he had such he was had such a clear vision

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01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 8: and he also has such.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it took hooks like her.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's like he really does you know what

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01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 7: I mean, Like he's just like he's he's he's gutsy

1342
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 7: because he comes from a place of just like belief and.

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01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's that that's sort of intoxicating to be around.

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Speaker 2: And the truth is cynical Hollywood though you just say,

1345
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: like rapper for twenty years really didn't make it to

1346
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Speaker 2: the mainstream level?

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Speaker 1: Was he have to offer me?

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01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 4: Like?

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01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 7: But I think, don't you think we're in a time

1350
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 7: right now where like everybody's looking for the outlier to

1351
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 7: like bandwagon with because so.

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Speaker 1: How did it come? How did it come across your radar?

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Speaker 7: Well, funny, funny enough, he wrote me a letter two

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01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 7: years ago and offered it to me, and then essentially

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01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 7: resended that offer by then asking me to audition for it,

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01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 7: because in the space of two years he felt like

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01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 7: I like popped off too much to then be in

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01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 7: his like ind movie, yeah, and so he asked me

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01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 7: to audition. So I auditioned, and I wasn't in the

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Speaker 7: same city as him or Lakeith. So we got on

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01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 7: a skype call and then he felt like it was

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01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 7: really instantaneous and he couldn't say no to me.

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Speaker 2: I don't even think that happens to any direct Like

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01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: it's what do you mean? That's luck I mean on

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01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 2: his end, but uh, what, how do you feel? I

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01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 2: feel as though this will be descript is.

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Speaker 7: Literally unlike anything I had ever seen or dreamt of.

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01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 7: And then I also think in terms of like I

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01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 7: really love films like you know, Being John Malkovich or

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 7: Eternal Sunshine in the Spotless Mind, or like Michelle Gondry's

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01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 7: films like I like, you know, weird shit, and I

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01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 7: just felt like that was always a genre that wasn't

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01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 7: gonna be available to me because like I don't see

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Speaker 7: any black folks in those movies.

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Speaker 2: I saw the trailer for Sorry to Bother You, and

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01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: I was like, I've been waiting for a black film

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Speaker 2: like this for like.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five years.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, legit.

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01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 7: So that's how that's how I felt like that when

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01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 7: I got that scripted answer to call that, like, I

1382
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 7: just had literally been like cool, I'll never get to

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01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 7: make a film like that unless I make it, and

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01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 7: I don't know.

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01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 8: I don't know that I will, And so it's like, yeah,

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01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 8: that's how.

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Speaker 1: I thank you Jesus. That is awesome. Well, I know

1388
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: we have a gazillion more questions for you, but we

1389
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: have to love it.

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Speaker 8: I really like being here, Gus. Can I also tell

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01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 8: you that I love the magic whatever influence. I don't

1392
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 8: know if it is, but the power of you and

1393
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 8: Janelle together has opened up her or her and away

1394
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 8: to her fans to watch the evolution. That is just

1395
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 8: a gift.

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01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm really like, I'm so happy for her and

1397
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 7: so proud, like I like, outside of you know, I

1398
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 7: just really love the record.

1399
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 8: Like I listen to the record.

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Speaker 7: It's weird sometimes when it's like if someone that you're

1401
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 7: close to and your friend, You're like, I'm geeking out

1402
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 7: on your stuff, but I legitimately just like really love

1403
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 7: the record.

1404
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's kind of cool.

1405
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: I used to him all the time.

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01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I so I feel that way about it.

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01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 7: So I'm just like so proud because I just think

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 7: it's like such a beautiful record and so dope. And

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01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 7: then also just in terms of her evolution, you know,

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01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 7: she's in a space where she really like is allowing

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01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 7: her work to be more personal and that's like just

1412
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 7: setting herself free. But in doing that, you said a

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Speaker 7: lot of other people free.

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Speaker 8: So it's cool.

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01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: That's what's up. Well, thank you. Ms Thompson.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, ra and behalf of Boss Bill and

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01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 2: paid Bill Front Ticcolo Sugar Steve, It's Aliyah.

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Speaker 1: It's a Leah wow, ls Man, I'm paying for this.

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01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: It's layah uh.

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Speaker 2: Antessa Thompson, thank god, there's no ours or else in

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01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: your name. This is Quest Love signing off for her

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 2: Quest Love Supreme. We will see You, or the dext gobund.

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Speaker 2: Quest Love Is Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This

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01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 8: One.

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