WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: New Year's Dey 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.519 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:09.920 The Bengals Booth Podcast. The I'll be cleaning up the 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:15.040 bottles with you on New Uesday. Addition, as the Bengals 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:18.160 head to Kansas City for a New Year's Eve rematch 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.720 of the last two AFC Championship games as they face 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.760 the Kansas City Chiefs. Coming up, I'll talk to Orlando 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:29.400 Brown Junior about facing his former team. 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Orlando Brown Junior 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.959 is a two time dad as of Saturday. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:43.600 Yes, I am, Yes, I am. Man. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.200 I'm super super blessed to be able to obviously be 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:47.920 here for my kids. 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:48.120 Man. 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.760 You know, losing my dad at fifteen was hard for me. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.920 But man, to be able to bring these lives in 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.239 the world and beat her for him menace everything to me. 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.239 And both Christmas babies one born just before the they're 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:00.680 just after. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.720 Yeah, exactly, man, the twenty third and twenty eighth. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.280 So all right, let's talk about Sunday's game. It's one 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.840 of the great rivalries in the NFL, the Bengals against 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.239 the Chiefs. You were on the other side of the 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.680 rivalry for the last couple of years. What did you 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.480 think of the Bengals from the opposite sideline. 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.359 Yeah, well, I mean one of the reasons I signed here. 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:17.560 Man. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.920 You can always tell how tough and physical, how hard 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.720 this group plays, how determined they were. You know, I 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.840 think being on the other side of things, man, having 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.280 only one of the one of the battles, that was 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:31.520 what stuck out to me the most. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.960 Was there anybody on the Bengals roster where you were like, man, 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.160 I don't like that guy, and now that your teammates 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:39.920 you're like, hey, this is a cool dude. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.680 Yeah. Honestly, probably all of them, Probably all of them, 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:45.080 you know. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.720 I it's funny to say that, you know, we were 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.240 just recently talking about that, just because the rivalry is 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.320 so competitive, and you know, you you don't really know 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.040 the guys in the other locker room, and you know, 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.200 I was just staying on all of them, honestly. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:02.240 So going back to the AFC Championship game last year, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:07.800 did the Bengals calling Arrowhead Burrowhead or the Mayor's ill 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:12.160 advised video trolling Patrick Mahomes kick you off at the time. 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.720 Yeah, I mean personally, man, you know, I get it. 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.920 You know, the trash talk and stuff. I can't really 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.559 say it bothered me. Maybe it's some of the others 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.360 as much, but you know, it's kind of a part 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.520 of it, man, And I think that's what made the 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.160 robbery so entertaining. It's so great, is those little things 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.120 that kind of going on the outside that you know, 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.479 obviously going to the game and up until that point, 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.160 I mean, what they had won three straight against US, 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.000 so you know they had our number. 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.880 Or visiting with the Orlando Brown junior. In other sports, 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:46.240 when you face a former team, it's not necessarily physical. 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.719 On Sunday you'll be looking to pummel guys that were 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:53.000 close friends ten months ago. Was that strange the first 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.479 time you did it? And is it still strange now? 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:55.839 No? 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:57.680 Man, I mean, you know, at the end of the day, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.480 it's my job. Man, I don't care if my mother 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.039 had a home on the other side of the ball. 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:03.280 That's just the kind of way I think about it. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.919 You know, this guy's trying to feed his family like 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:07.640 I'm trying to do trying to feed mine, and so 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.160 you know, when it comes to the mentality, man, I mean, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.520 there is no backing down, there is no laying off. 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.599 It's full go, you know, once we're out there on 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:17.400 and light on. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.240 So you're going into Arrowhead, which holds the record for 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.159 loudest stadium for a sporting event. It was one hundred 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.440 and forty two decibels several years ago. Is it the 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.200 loudest that you've ever played in? 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:29.719 Yeah? 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:30.520 Man, definitely. 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.320 You know, I think Arrowhead is extremely loud from all 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.919 the times that I've been there, even as an opposing 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:43.719 player Seattle too, you know that that environment. And here 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:47.520 in Cincinnati another another stadium that's crazy, M and T Bank, 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:53.240 Baltimore and San Francisco. Man, those stadiums, those fans get rowdy. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:57.000 Now, So as an o lineman at some point is 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:01.960 loud just loud or the ones that you just mentioned, 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.040 is at a different level in trying to communicate. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.000 It's a different level when trying to communicate because honestly, 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.600 it's hard to hear the man next to you, and 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.559 so uh sometimes even with the quarterback checking and play 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.120 or if you are on cadence in a certain situation 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.599 under center. I mean, it's hard. It's hard. But you know, 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.080 those are things you got to overcome on the road. 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.640 And that's why I'm super excited for the opportunity to 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.440 get out here to Kansas City with this team. Is 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.800 you know, because there is gonna be adversity in this game, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.240 and uh, that's that's part of the sport, that's part 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.479 of you know, these Bengals Chiefs games, and uh, you know, 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.200 I think the crowd noise is going to kind of 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.760 add to that. And so that's what makes it special, man, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:39.560 is you know, we get the opportunity to go out 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.360 here against a really good football team, obviously a team 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.279 that you know, took this team out of the Super 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.240 Bowl last year, and and uh, you know all those 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:47.960 things that go into it. 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:48.839 Man, it's super exciting. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.039 So after the loss to Pittsburgh on Saturday, most of 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.400 the other results were favorable to the Bengals except for 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.440 Buffalo winning, but the other games kind of fell in 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:01.600 Cincinnati's favor. Were you even really paying attention to any 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.720 of that? And now that you know it has it 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.400 energized the team at all, knowing, hey, we're still very 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:06.880 much in this. 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.480 Yeah, man, you know, no matter what with the season, man, 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:11.840 I try to take it one week at a time. 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.600 And I know that's kind of cliche and a little 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.360 bit of corny, but you know, so many things can 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.000 happen week to week, and trying to keep up with 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:24.040 playoff contention, and you know, the week fourteen or it's hard, 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:25.760 you know what I mean? And so I keep it 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.200 week the week, man, And first and foremost, we got 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.520 to beat this football team in Kansas City, and I 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.880 think from there everything else will take care of yourself. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.280 The Chiefs record is one game better than the Bengals record, 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.600 and they've had a healthy Patrick Mahomes all year. Obviously 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.240 you have not had a healthy Joe Burrow all year. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.200 What do you think's up in Kansas City? 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.000 Yeah, well, I mean, I think overall, just in the NFL, 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.800 you look around how competitive the league is, and how 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:51.960 much more competitive it is. You know, the NFL is 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.080 designed to somewhat haven't even playing field, in the way 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.280 that free agency works, in the way that the waiver 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.320 wire works with the worst team getting the best option 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.800 rec for the draft, all those different things. And uh, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.239 I think you look around the league, man, even within 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.800 their division. For Kansas City, Denver is a better football 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.880 team than they've ever been. Uh, the Raiders are a 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.000 really good football team, playing really hard. And you know 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.200 the Chargers are are you know, playing hard as well, 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.720 even though they're down with Justin Herbert. So when you 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.880 have a little small things like that going on around 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.080 the sport, man, you've got teams like Buffalo that are 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.600 that are really good, have really good rosters. You know, 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.160 I think all those things kind of go hand to hand. 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.200 And so man, that's that's what that's what this league 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.719 is about. It's it's literally a game of inches and so, uh, 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.040 Kansas City has come up short a few times due 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.960 to that reason. Man, whether it be a turnover here there, 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.720 you know, you take one of those turnovers out the game. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:41.840 I mean, I mean it's it's a pretty competitive game 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.199 last week for them. So, uh, that's just kind of 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:45.559 way the cookie crumbles. 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:45.959 You could say. 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.719 One thing that hasn't dropped off in Kansas City is 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:48.960 the d. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:49.520 Yeah. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.800 Number two in scoring defense, number two in yards allowed. 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.480 Is this as well as they've ever played on defense 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.920 since you've been a member of the NFL? 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.000 Yeah, definitely, Man, I think this def this is really special. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.240 And they have you know, they have been They've always 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.240 had pretty much the same faces and names. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:07.160 A few new. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.160 People here and there, but you know, Spags is a 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.240 great defensive coordinator, man, and he gets this guy's going. 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.040 He's got greatest sinstant coaches. Obviously, Chris Jones is the 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.960 first battle of Hall of Famer, you know. So it's 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.800 a lot of things going going their way in terms 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.480 of that man, and they play really hard as well. 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.520 Fifth time around between these two rivals, it's all four 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.400 previous games have been decided by three points. 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.400 Yeah, and that's That's what this is about. 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.680 Man is winning it turnover battle, you know, being the 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.719 most disciplined team and winning a lot of scrimmage. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.600 Congrats on Young Sunny, best of luck on Sunday, Yes, sir, 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:41.120 thank you. The Bengals are currently a seven point underdog 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.680 at Kansas City. The last time they lost to Pittsburgh, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.320 they were a ten point underdog the following week and 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.360 beat Jacksonville in overtime on Monday Night Football thirty four 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.840 thirty one. Here's Zach Taylor. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.560 You can look back to how this room was, how 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.559 locker room after the day after we lost Pittsburgh the 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.400 first time, you know, and there could have easily been 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.360 a narrative that this team's going to hang it up, 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.200 and that's not what happened. Instead, three games in a 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.520 row where we played really inspired football and found three 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.640 wins and you got ourselves back in the hunt. So 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:13.880 we're no different in the situation right now where we 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.640 need to be at our best this week against Kansas City. 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.160 And I'm excited to see if these guys respond. And 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:20.840 I know what they are, I know how they're going 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:22.720 to respond, and I'm excited to see it this week. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.040 If the Bengals can win their final two games, they 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.240 have a ninety four percent chance of making the playoffs. 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.680 If they go one and one, it's a twenty one 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.280 percent chance. So a win in Kansas City this week 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.760 would be ginormous. For more in the likelihood of pulling 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.760 it off. I caught up with a familiar face from 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.840 the NFL Network. He is a host on the NFL 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.960 Network and he's called some games on the radio for 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.400 the Cleveland Browns this year. It is great to welcome 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:55.360 in my friend Andrew Ciciliano. Andrew, if the Bengals can 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.800 win their last two games, they can still make it 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.360 to the playoffs, and that road to the playoffs again's 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.520 at Kansas City this week. What do you make of 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:07.160 the Chiefs who are nine and six and just four 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:07.920 and four at home? 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.360 Oh boy, Dan, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.520 all that fun stuff to you and yours. It was 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.440 not a merry Christmas, I know for the Chiefs. I 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.120 think I was like everyone else. You know, by the 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.960 time you get with the family and by the time, yeah, 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.360 you figure out you know, when is dinner going to 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.360 be served? Should I have another appetizer? Should I pour 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.240 another drink. You looked up and all of a sudden, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.120 the Chiefs were losing in the fourth quarter, and everybody 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.800 wanted to blame Taylor Swift. I think they have some 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.320 legitimate issues, and I don't know that I've ever seen 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.280 I think this really tells the story. I don't know 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.559 that I've ever seen Patrick Mahomes that visibly frustrated on 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.600 the field, and it's been building. Obviously, there have been 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.240 moments and postgame with Josh Allen a couple of weeks 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:56.320 ago with the Gadarius tonyoff size that obviously was his 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.439 volcanic moment on the field, but just the first stration 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.960 down in, down, out, the body language with Kelsey throwing 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.600 the helmet and everything as well. I think that offense 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.199 is broken. They have nobody who can get open. Mahomes 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.720 truly does have to do everything by himself. With the 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.800 checko down concussion protocol, I think that adds an extra 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:19.760 layer of difficulty for the Chiefs. I think this team 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.360 is eminently beatable, even if the game is in Kansas 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:27.120 City and we keep waiting for it to click. Oh, 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.559 don't worry, Mahomes and Andy Reid are going to figure 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.160 it out well. They have it yet, which leads me 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:34.840 to believe if they aren't going to. 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:39.000 After Kansas City, it's a home game against the Cleveland Browns. 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.400 You called the Browns game last week on the radio. 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.959 At this point, the way Joe Flacco is playing, are 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:46.880 the Browns a legit contender? 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:48.200 I think they are. 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.160 Dan and the Browns fan in me, and for those 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.480 who don't know, I was born and raised day Browns fan, 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.320 I will be there for Thursday night football in the 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:00.840 stands as a fan dressed formally. Of course, the Browns 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.560 fan in me doesn't want to say it because you 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.440 tell yourself you can't have good things and don't dream 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:11.000 of playoff victories yet, just take it day by day, 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.120 week by week, as Stefanski says, go one to oh 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:17.480 every week. But Flacco has brought a new level of confidence, 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.600 and I think in this holiday season, I don't want 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.720 to get too deep here, but I think the issue 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.920 of gratitude is relevant here if you go back and 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:31.719 you look after the Jaguars victory, when Stefanski gave flackaway 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.200 game ball postgame speech in the locker room, Flacco said 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:39.839 to the team, thank you for having me, like thank 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.200 you for letting me in here. He is that grateful 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:46.359 to have another shot at it, and with this team 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.560 it's working, and they are that grateful in return to 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:54.480 have him, and it is a sight to behold and 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.800 the level of confidence and joy with which they were 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:03.880 playing because he is there is something Andrew. 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.400 Let's turn to Jake Brown and he's made five starts 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.120 since Joe Burrow went down. His passer rating is ninety 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.880 nine point four. He's averaging more than three hundred passing 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:16.760 yards per game in this year of backup quarterbacks. What 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.679 do you think of Jake Browning in the job he's 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:19.920 done in Cincinnati. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.040 I think it's phenomenal. Part of me was yelling at 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.640 my TV in the first quarter, Daan, I'm sure you 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.400 were yelling at the radio as well when he I think, 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.320 tried to throw the ball away in the back right 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:34.000 corner of the end zone. But also when you have 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.000 t Higgins make the play the week before, you have 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.640 that confidence, and Jake is certainly not one lacking confidence 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.800 that you can make that play. I love the guy, 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.840 I think, Dan, you and I talked on serious x 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.360 MNFL radio the day after the Joe Burrow injury. I 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.880 had you on as a guest, and I said, I 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.600 think the season's over, not out of spite, I just 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.640 didn't see this coming. It is a great holiday gift 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.680 and the Bengals still have a shot, which this time 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:02.600 of the year is all you can ask for. And 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.280 here's here's why Bengals fans should be rooting for the 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.680 Browns on Thursday. Because if the Browns win, and the 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:14.160 Browns are in and the Ravens win and the Ravens 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.360 lock up number one, Brown's got nothing to play for 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:21.080 a week eighteen and they are decimated by injuries, and 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:26.440 you could see PJ. Walker week eighteen. So Bengals fans 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:27.680 root for the Browns. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.760 Let's talk about a Bengals defensive player. When people around 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.560 the NFL talk about the great edge rushers in the league, 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.239 they're going to mention TJ. Watt, Miles Garrett, and obviously 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.960 Micah Parsons and some others. You don't hear Trey Hendrickson 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.240 come up all that often. 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:43.640 TJ. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.560 Watt's the only player in the NFL right now with 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:49.760 more sacks than Trey who has sixteen. Does he belong 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.560 in that conversation? And do you have a theory for 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.080 why he doesn't get that kind of publicity. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.560 That's a great question. Why does he not? That I 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.080 can't answer, But I think a sack and six straight 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.840 games of those overall numbers certainly deserve more attention. I 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.840 think the people to know football know the kind of 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:13.400 job Trey Henderson does against the run as well. I'll 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.640 go back to Stefanski. He went off in his soapbox 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:20.000 last week about stats being the only numbers kind of 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.640 like home runs in baseball, that anyone pays attention to, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.320 but it truly doesn't tell the entire story, whether it's 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.600 pressures or TFLs or plays in the backfield in general, 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.240 Trey Hendrickson has all of those things if you take 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.400 a deeper dive, and that's not analytics, that's just a 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.600 better way of analyzing the way somebody is playing. Trey Henderson. 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:44.720 Hendrickson does deserve more attention. But the squeaky wheel, like 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.160 Michah Parsons and Jerry Jones complaining about not getting holding calls, 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.520 generally speaking, is what's going to be heard on the 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.840 screaming head shows every morning when you turn your radio on. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.440 All right, let's look ahead to next year. The Bengals 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.920 will have a healthy Joe Burrow back, and they're going 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.000 to have them as their quarterback at least through twenty 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.320 twenty nine. After the contract extension that he signed prior 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.960 to this season. There are going to be some salary 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:10.000 cap implications to come. But give us your long term 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.200 prognosis for the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.720 What did Joe say? The window is as long as 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:21.520 I'm here right the window is my career. I think 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.080 I'm going to go. I'll have what he's having. I 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.760 fully believe that. But I also know Dan, as you 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.840 guys will know there and is always the topic of conversation, 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.480 especially this year, that there are other contracts to worry about, 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.840 another mouths to feed, specifically in the wide receiver room. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:40.640 So it's going to be a balancing act. 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.400 And what you hope doesn't happen is honestly what's going 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.680 on right now in Kansas City, because we all agree 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.280 that if they had simply paid a little bit more 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:56.159 to Tyreek Hill, then maybe people aren't blaming Taylor Swift 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.560 and the Chiefs offense is still clicking, and it would 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:04.600 be great if you could keep that wide receiver room intact. 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.800 I don't know that you can but as long as 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.800 Joe is there, I firmly believe that they will be fine, 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.840 because I also believe in Duke Tobin's ability to continue 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:16.240 to restock this roster. 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.600 You are spending time with your family for the holidays. 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:21.399 We interrupted a shopping spree. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.440 That's what's in the back couring rain here in northern Virginia. 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.880 I actually came inside here to the car to get dry. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.200 All right, Well in happy shopping once you get out 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.000 of the car, once it stops raining. We appreciate your time, 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.399 enjoy that Browns game, and look forward to catching up 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:39.920 again sometime soon. Thanks Andrew. 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.520 Like I said, happy holidays, Merry Christmas, and Happy New 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.119 Year to every Bengals fan had obviously Danty you and 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:47.800 yours as well. 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.240 The Bengals Booth podcast is brought to you by pay Corps, 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:55.040 proud to be the Bengals official HR software provider, by 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.920 Alta Fiber future proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.440 business and community to a new level, and by Kettering 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:06.080 Health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:10.160 is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. In order 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.840 for the Bengals to beat the Chiefs on Sunday. Jake 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.800 Browning is going to have to rebound from the first 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.120 bad start of his NFL career, as he threw three 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.280 interceptions in Saturday's loss at Pittsburgh. 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.200 I'm not the first quarterback to that have a tough game, 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.440 and there's been a lot of great quarterbacks that I 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:30.040 had some really really bad games, and so I'm not. 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:31.040 Discouraged by that. 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.280 I think you watch it with I watched my losses 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.000 the same way I watch my wins, and there's always 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.040 going to be something you need to do better taking 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.280 that into account. But then also, like for me, it's 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.200 you know, okay, it's very easy to say, okay, don't 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.040 turn the ball over. Okay, Well, you know, how do 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:50.000 you do that while it's sustaining aggressive in the scheme, 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.280