1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Brading. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They called 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: me Ben, and we're joined as always with our super 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: producer Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: are you, You are here, and that meets this the 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. It's the top 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: of yet another strange week. People are asking if we 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: are in the wrong timeline. People are impressed and terrified 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: by improvised firearms, and there's much much more, and we'll 13 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: get to those stories eventually. But what better way to 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: open up this weekly strange news segment than by uh, 15 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: one of one of the favorite questions of mine and 16 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: maybe yours as well. No, Matt, what's what's on your mind? Huge? 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: Huge question for me? She keeps me up nights. Well, 18 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: what's on what's on my mind, guys, is whether or 19 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: not I or anyone else can quote summon Bigfoot. That 20 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: is what's on my mind. Because I've got a story 21 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: for you guys coming out of Oklahoma. Title is Oklahoma 22 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: man murdered noodling partner who summoned Bigfoot to come and 23 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: kill him. According to Bury, the lead their noodling. I 24 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: think I know what this is, but some people may not. 25 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: This is catching catfish with your fingers, right, shooting your 26 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: hand down in there and pulling up a big slammy 27 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: catfish the old Appalachian martial arts. Correct. You can you 28 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: you can lose some fingers on that one if you've 29 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: tried it before. Actually, I uh, I've hung with some 30 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: noodlers back in the day, and our good friend Lyle 31 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: who works with us, I think has also done that. 32 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: That are frog gigging, but beore and no idea are 33 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: gigs gigs man gigs but but the contains multitudes? Is 34 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: an interesting cat The weird thing about it, though, is 35 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: it's already a very dangerous thing. Catfish don't play and 36 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: if you get you get a big one, it can 37 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: take your finger with it. That's right. And yes, guys, 38 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: in this case, unfortunately more than fingers were lost in 39 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: this incident. Um reading. This story, by the way, comes 40 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: to us from Law and Crime. That's Law and Crime 41 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: dot com. The stories reported in Let's see kt E, 42 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: N NBC and ABC affiliate, a CBS affiliate, FOX affiliate 43 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: all there in the Oklahoma area reading this one because 44 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: the long crime article had the most information. Fifty three 45 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: year old man who is currently in jail. Uh, he 46 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: was noodling, as you guys were talking about and describing submerging. 47 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: He was submerged in water with another man. They were 48 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: both fishing for catfish with their bare hands. I'll just 49 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: tell you their names. The man who is currently in 50 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: custody is named Larry Sanders, not from the famous television 51 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: show with the same name. Uh. The other person, the 52 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: victim here, his name is Jimmy Knighton k n I 53 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: g h T E N. Yeah right. There was a 54 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: press release put out via Facebook by the Oklahoma State 55 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: Bureau of Investigation wherein they detailed exactly what we mentioned 56 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: in the title here that the excuse, the defense perhaps 57 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: that is being used by Larry Sanders is that the 58 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: reason why he killed this person, Mr Knighton, is because Mr. 59 00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: Knighton was attempting to or had summoned Bigfoot, and Bigfoot 60 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: was going to come and injure. Yeah. Thing that just 61 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: that sounds like a very lame serious but that's what 62 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: you do. You make out a specific vocalization. And I 63 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta say to Matt, I pictured it being 64 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: the other way around. That it was like he sacrificed 65 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: him in order to summon Bigfoot, but he in fact 66 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: was a feared for his life because his noodling mate 67 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: had issued the call or done something. I want to 68 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: know what what tipped him off? Why? Why did he 69 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: think his friend had done this thing? Is there like 70 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: a big Foot bat signal? Is that what it is? 71 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: Did he see did you see a shadow across this guy? 72 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: I've got the same questions I opened the segment with. 73 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: I want to find out if I can summon Bigfoot? Right. Uh, 74 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to read you a statement that we're getting 75 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: from Sheriff John Christian. This is a quote from long 76 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: crime quote. So his statement was that Mr Knighton had 77 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: summoned Bigfoot to come and kill him and that's why 78 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: he had to kill Mr Knighton. And the sheriff adds 79 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: that Mr Sanders quote appeared to be under the influence 80 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: of something which you may or may not lead to 81 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: the belief that his partner, his noodling partner had summoned 82 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: big Foot in some way. There's some psychedelic noodling, perhaps 83 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of you know, help you really focus. 84 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: That feels more along the lines of reality to me, Ben, 85 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: But we can't confirm that um Mr Knighton's body was 86 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: found by Sheriff's deputies not long ago. On Sunday, July, 87 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: we are recording this ont and Sanders apparently confessed. He 88 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: also apparently told some family members what he had done 89 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: prior to being arrested. What was the means of the 90 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: coup de gras? If I may ask, I do not know. 91 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: It appears to be I think the way it was 92 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: described in this other article is that there was a 93 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: struggle between the two men. Got it lord of the 94 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: rings Gallum style when they fight, I'm picturing too bad. 95 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe one of them had the big Foot ring. 96 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just know that they fought. They 97 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: for some reason got into a fight in the water, 98 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: probably and one of them was killed. Ben. Do you 99 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: remember when we interviewed the gentleman who has the expedition 100 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: Bigfoot Museum out in uh Blue Range, and it was 101 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: it was between him and another guy might be mixing 102 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: my stories. But the idea of Bigfoot being a a 103 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: supernatural creature that can like teleproat and and has all 104 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: kinds of like abilities. There was a story somebody told 105 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: us about him running underneath the truck on all fours 106 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: and like blipping in and out of existence. And now 107 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: this to me is is interesting cause I'm picturing it 108 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: lining up with this idea of Bigfoot being a summonable 109 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: entity rather than just a forgotten species of you know, Neanderthal. Well, 110 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: there are ways to summon all sorts of wild animals, right, 111 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: higher order animal like a primate creature. It could be summoned, right. 112 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: It can be in heist toward an area. I don't 113 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: know if it's ethical to do that. All you have 114 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: to do is use the beast moor pot that you 115 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: you have to get a cracked pot to craft it. 116 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm kidding. This is not an Elden ring. This is 117 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: real life. It actually has died. Um. But the person 118 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: you're mentioning expedition Bigfoot is David Bickera, and he he's 119 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: the one who told us that in many stories. He's 120 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: a fantastic guy. He's a true believer too, But he 121 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have a problem fielding some of the difficult questions 122 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: we post. He wouldn't kill us, is what I'm saying. 123 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: He wouldn't kill us if we went fishing. I don't 124 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: think so. He might teach us how to summon. I 125 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: don't know. For some reason, when I hear the word summon, 126 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: I picture like, you know, incantations rather than just like 127 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: a whistle or your mom calling you home for dinner. 128 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: You know, I do too. I imagine the ritual we 129 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: perform every time we're in the studio shooting with Ben Right. Um, 130 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: It's sorry, it's an inside joke for anybody who watched 131 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: that one video they're about. Okay, I was there. I 132 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: was there. I do want to report back, guys. According 133 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: to the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation, Um Sanders reported 134 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: to them, like confessed to them that he struck so 135 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: striking and then he strangled Mr Knighton. So that's exactly 136 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: the same way that Gollum went. Are the Gollum did 137 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: in his h his buddy striking strangle? Yes, I have 138 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: the same images conjured in my head when I hear 139 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: the words summon, and I started searching around just trying 140 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: to find something. Is there a Sasquatch ritual. Is there 141 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: a big foot, you know, summoning thing like potion? You 142 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: can create that kind of thing. The closest thing I found, you, guys, 143 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: comes from a person named Sybil Kempson K E M 144 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: P S O N. She's created some kind of performance 145 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: titled Sasquatch Rituals. It's produced by Sarah Hughes. You can 146 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: find it on Sarah Cameron Hughes h U G h 147 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: E S dot com. Uh, it's fascinating stuff. I'm gonna 148 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: read a tiny bit from the website here. Sasquatch Rituals 149 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: is a cycle of performance ritual installations initiated by Sybil 150 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: Kempson that tracks and responds to her spiral shaped experiences 151 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: as an investigator for the Bigfoot Field Research Organization. It 152 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: begins with the patterns of language Americans use on the 153 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: Internet to describe something they can't explain, and it says 154 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: the piece contains field observations from a bunch of others 155 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: and hundreds of witnesses who shall remain anonymous, and research 156 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: personalities who will become increasingly infamous. I guess that is 157 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: what I said. Um, so really cool, because that is 158 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: a real organization the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization. You can 159 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: find them at b f are a dot net can 160 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: check that out. It's people who are really attempting to 161 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: find Bigfoot out there, trying to summon Bigfoot when they're 162 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: researching generally out in the woods somewhere, and they're all 163 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: kinds of ways to summon Bigfoot or to increase your 164 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: chances of seeing Bigfoot, at least according to a website 165 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: called Bigfoot Sightings dot Org, which you can check out. Uh, 166 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: this is the standard kind of stuff that we've heard before. 167 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: You know, the wood knocks, certain vocalizations that you can make. 168 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: It's even said on this page, Yes, exactly, it's said 169 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: on this page that you can if you play music 170 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: and you create an inviting, positive, I don't know, vibe 171 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: at your campsite wherever you are, you increase the chances 172 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: that Bigfoot will make some kind of appearance, whether audible 173 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: or visual. Yeah, or if you just play the movie Vibes. 174 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: They love it. They've got great taste in film. And 175 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: if you want to encounter a Sasquatch, take it from us, 176 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: just play the soundtrack of Vibes, just the cool clips, 177 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: you know, um, and let us know your results. What 178 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: method did the local law use to summon Bigfoot for 179 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: an interview? Matt, I don't know. You're saying they didn't 180 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: interview the Sasquatch. We don't. We don't have we don't 181 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: have a statement from the Sasquatch at this moment. That's shoddy. 182 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: That's let's just not due diligence. I think. Well, I'm 183 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: obviously I'm just playing around, but I would love the 184 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: idea of sasquatch being discovered via a police statement or 185 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: a sheriff's statement, maybe kind of a it just comes 186 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: out of the well, you know. I mean, the most 187 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: surefire way to summon a Pacific Northwest sasquatch is just 188 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: to roll up and light up a little something, and 189 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: that smell will waft into the into the pines, and uh, 190 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: we'll carry the big Foot like like in the cartoons 191 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: where the smell of the pie on the window sill 192 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: kind of carries peppi lepew, you know, by his nostrils. 193 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: That's how. Yeah, let's say get a sasquatch to come 194 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: hang out with you. You gotta smoke him out, oh man. 195 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: But not not not in like a way you know, 196 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: a good way or hopefully yeah, exactly. According to live 197 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: outdoors dot Com, guys, Humboldt County is one of the 198 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: best places to search for a big foot. Gee, I 199 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: wonder why that might be. Yeah, they go. They're known 200 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: for their they're known for their waffetables. Yeah, I don um. 201 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: This is interesting, Matt, is this? Uh? What's what's next? Here? 202 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: Is there? Is there something to keep an eye on 203 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: as details emerge? Yes, the Office of the Chief Medical 204 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: Examiner is conducting an autopsy on Mr Knighton's body to 205 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: determine the official cause and manner of death. And Uh, 206 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: Larry Sanders, the person who murdered here, is currently in 207 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: jail in the Ponta Talk County Jail, and if he's 208 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: found guilty of first degree murder, he could face the 209 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: death penalty there. So I guess just you know, we'll 210 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: try and keep an eye on it. You do the same, 211 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: and we'll just see what happens. I want to hear 212 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: more information. I'd love to get more info from Larry 213 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: Sanders about what he believed, especially after after being detained, 214 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: dur incarcerated for some time. If there's something in his system, 215 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: then hopefully it will have run its course or flushed out. 216 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: I do feel like we're having some fun with this story, 217 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: but I do feel it's very important as always to 218 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: point out addiction is a disease more so than a crime. 219 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: It led to a crime if there were drugs involved here, 220 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: But if you or someone you know is in a 221 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: bad spot or struggling, then there are many, many resources 222 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: to contact. You can even write to us if you want, 223 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: and we can supply those resources to you. I'm a 224 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: lot of fun at parties. No, you're absolutely right. Then 225 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: we're joking around a little bit. But this also makes 226 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: me think of the incident with the two young women 227 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: in the whole slender Man thing. They there there was 228 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: a murder that took place, you know, around uh, you know, 229 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: summoning of like a malevolent spirit of some kind. And 230 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, at the very least there was 231 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: some severe mental illness involved in that. If not outright 232 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: drug induced psychosis, well there was at least um I 233 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: can't remember. I think there was forethought because they lured 234 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: her out. They thought about but it was a long 235 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: term m But for now, just be careful who you 236 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: noodle with. We'll be right back with more strange news, 237 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: And we're back with more strange news. This one's really 238 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: been capturing my imagination in a lot of ways. As 239 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: we know, we've reported on NiFe attacks in Japan in 240 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: the past, and and I have mentioned that because of 241 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: the law they're uh, you know that is very prohibitive 242 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: surrounding firearms, that's typically what you're going to see is 243 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: you're going to see these kind of flash in the 244 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: pan public knife things, which are horrific and terrifying, but 245 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: it's just not as easy to kill a large number 246 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: of people being as an individual attacker with a knife 247 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: as it is with a machine gun of some kind 248 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: or assault rifle. Rather um this surrounds the story of 249 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: the former Japanese Prime Minister Shenzo Abe, who I'm sure 250 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: many people have have heard um in the press was 251 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: recently assassinated. But he was not knife. He was shot. 252 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: And the thing that's captured my imagination most about this 253 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: is the gun with which he was shot really looks 254 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: like something out of like one of the Fallout games. 255 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: It is a kind of amalgamation of pipes and plastic 256 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: fittings and wires, and it's it's you know, very d 257 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: I y It looks like a prop. You'd see it 258 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: like a you know, comic con or something with literally 259 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: someone dressed up as a fallout character or some kind 260 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: of dystopian future S five scenario. The guy who who 261 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: killed um Abe was a guy by the name of 262 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: Tetsuya Yamagami, and when his home was was rated, law 263 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: enforcement found a series of these crude um electronically propelled 264 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: pipe guns, some of which were I think, you know, 265 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: they were referred to as shotguns essentially. I think the 266 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: largest one was like a nine barrel shotguns, so it's 267 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: like three rows of three barrels um and the one 268 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: that was used to kill Abe, I believe was six. 269 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: But really fascinating stuff, and it's the kind of thing 270 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: that you know, anybody who's industrious enough to to look 271 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: up or figure out, you know, really invent things like 272 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: this could cobble something like this together, and you know, 273 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: they're pretty much untraceable. It goes back to issues we 274 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: have here in the States with things called ghost guns 275 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: or you can get these, you know, various parts from 276 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: different UH dealers that are all under the radar, like 277 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: on the on the dark web, and it's just near 278 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: impossible to trace the thing with legally procured firearms that 279 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: they're they're traceable. There's even like riflings on the barrel 280 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: that caused like a signature on the bullet, so you 281 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: can match it to the gun. UM and serial numbers 282 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: and all of that and registration. I mean, say what 283 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: you will about the lax gun laws in America. At 284 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: least it's better than having no paper trail at all. 285 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: But you know, that's a conversation for another day. But yeah, 286 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: this this whole idea of being able to kind of 287 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: you know, d I y yourself up a gun that 288 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: can actually kill somebody is really fascinating to me. Um. 289 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: And it took the life of of of this former 290 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: prime minister in a country where I think gun possession 291 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: is punishable by life in prison, Ben, if not, if 292 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: not death, it's very, very very strict. Ben. You know 293 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more about the background of gun laws 294 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: in Japan. Yeah, you can't buy him at Walmart. That's 295 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: that's that's one thing. But that Yeah, so gun laws 296 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: in Japan are much more strict then they are you 297 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: know in the US. You could say that about a 298 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: lot of countries. Honestly, at least on the books, and 299 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: this has made shootings not just rare in the country 300 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: but unfathomable. Keep in mind to post World War two, 301 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: Japan doesn't have a standing military. They have a self 302 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: defense force, which is you know, kind of slitting hairs maybe, 303 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: but that's why that's why this person went and built 304 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: their own thing. And know I believe that the There 305 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: are tons of theories about the motivations. Thank you to 306 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: everybody who's been writing to me about these have been 307 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: in some really weird conversations, fascinating ones. But but it's 308 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: it's like easier for this guy to build something basically 309 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: than to buy something because of the amount of um difficulty. 310 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: You have to have an all day class, you have 311 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: to have a written test, you have to have a 312 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: shooting range tests with accuracy. That's just to get the license, 313 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: and then you have to drug test, mental evaluation like 314 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: a background check that's pretty thorough. They look at your finances, 315 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: like how much debt do you have? Have you ever 316 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: messed with the yakuza, what are your friends and family like? 317 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: They try to get at all before something gets in 318 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: your hands, and because of that, it is easier to 319 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: hold to this guy. Also, by the way didn't use 320 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: the nine barrel, uh, the nine barrel homemade because it 321 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: didn't fit I think the parameters of his mission as 322 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: he put it, or something like that, Right, that makes sense. 323 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: There's even a thing here, at least what I'm reading 324 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: in cfr dout Org, that you have to report where 325 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: your weapons are stored and where your ammunition is stored, 326 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: like you have to tell the government that. Can you 327 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: imagine if that was a rule here in the US 328 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: wouldn't be It's just not possible. They can't and you know, 329 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: it's just not looking again, we're not getting into a 330 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: debate about about gun laws here. I will, you know, 331 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: be the first one to say that they're pretty whack. 332 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: But you know these are maybe a little overboard. Um 333 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: and somewhere in the middle is maybe where the sweet 334 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: spot is. But you know, Japan is a country with 335 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: a population of a five million and there have only 336 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: been ten gun related deaths uh in the past year, 337 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, total, as opposed to what we see here, 338 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, where there's a new mass shooting every freaking day. 339 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: It's to the point where it's almost like hard to 340 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: keep track. So yeah, it's it's interesting have been the 341 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: whole Yakuza angle is fascinating, cause even in Yakuza films, 342 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: the mythology and the whole glorification of violence isn't surrounding guns. 343 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 1: It's usually like weapons like knives and flails and you know, 344 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: samurai stories and stuff that it's not really even. And honestly, 345 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: if there are movies around Yakuza that have guns, it's 346 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: usually so over the top and cartoonish as to be 347 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: almost satire. It's like it's like asap Rock always says 348 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: a fast card, danger, fire and knives. That's like Yakuza's style. 349 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: But also, you know, to me, it's really interesting conversation 350 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: with several folks on Instagram, and one of the things 351 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: that really stands out about this is there was a 352 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: minimum security detail. This is an open shot from the back. 353 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: Apparently there's no situational awareness. I'm quoting a friend of 354 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: mine who were going to keep anonymous here. Uh. The 355 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: shooter took the shot from less than twenty feats. They're 356 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: very close, which makes sense for a homemade uh. And 357 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: then two shots of the first missed. Yeah. I mean, 358 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: I certainly find the lengths to which he went pretty 359 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: compelling in terms of like the ingenuity to to build 360 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: something like this. I mean again, I don't know. I 361 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: haven't dug into the depths of the dark web when 362 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: it comes to schematics or whatever it might be out there. 363 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: There's certainly d i y communities for say, synthesizers and 364 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: electronics and like build kits for microphones and stuff, So 365 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: I can't imagine there wouldn't be that for these types 366 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: of weapons. Possibly, you know, just buried a little deeper, 367 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: since there's potential for being tied to something like that 368 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: if you're like on a message board that you know, 369 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: kind of trades in those kind of things. But there's 370 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: weird stuff about Abbe himself, Like, you know, the motivations 371 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: aren't clear particular, but I believe he's been tied to 372 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: some sort of religious movement that's controversial, um, and there's 373 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: some talk that there might be connections with that as 374 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: far as a lone wolf kind of situation. You know, 375 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe this is a person acting on the 376 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: authority of others or were part of a small group. Um. 377 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: But the thing that's also interesting is this really is 378 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: causing the government of Japan to kind of re evaluate, 379 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: which is crazy considering how stringent they are their gun 380 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: laws like. There's a statement from the professor of the 381 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: College of Risk Management and Nihon University in Tokyo, UH. 382 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: The AP reported UM. He said this serves a wake 383 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: up call the gun violence can happen in Japan and 384 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: security to protect Japanese politicians must be re examined. To 385 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: assume this kind of attack will never happen would be 386 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: a big mistake. UM. And you know, President Joe Biden 387 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: said that he believed this had a profound impact on 388 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: the psyche of the Japanese people and that it's a 389 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: different culture not used to gun violence as unfortunately we are. UM. 390 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: So I think this is also a wake up call 391 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: should be probably won't be um two lawmakers in our 392 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: country that this is something that is in eight uh 393 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: and that if someone wants to carry out a crime, 394 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna go to whatever means necessary to do that. UM. 395 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: And just making guns so ridiculously available with such kind 396 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: of meager background checks and and and all that stuff 397 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: is certainly will help. But at the end of the day, 398 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: if someone really wants to do it, they're probably gonna 399 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: do it. UM. The last thing is that there was 400 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: some interesting chatter or kind of a you know, a 401 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: whole I guess scandal around some four Chan posts that 402 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: connected the legendary video game developer Hideo Kajima, who did 403 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: like um the metal Gear, Solid games and all that stuff, 404 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: and um death stranding I think is the most recent one, 405 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: but you know, considered like an absolute genius in the field. Um. 406 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: Some folks shared images of him with UM the text 407 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: the far left kills and tying him directly to the 408 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: assassinations and again like these these guns look like something 409 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: out of a video game. So I could see maybe 410 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: someone posting this as a joke. UM. And apparently someone 411 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: posted it not as a joke, er reposted it and 412 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: the person since deleted. Uh that this tweet an issue 413 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: an apology. Sanday Nai naively took a joke as information 414 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: and was wrong not to check. But could Juma Productions 415 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: actually released a statement saying, UH, they condemn the spread 416 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: of fake news and rumors that convey false information and 417 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: will not tolerate such libel and will consider taking legal 418 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: action in some cases. Um. Mr Abbe of course did 419 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: pass away after he was shot um to your point 420 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: band at pre relatively close range. Um, And uh, the subspect, 421 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: Tetsuya Yamagami has actually confessed to the killing. So I 422 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: think this is very interesting culturally outside of Japan. I 423 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: think it's something to to definitely keep an eye on 424 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: and see how this progresses. And with that, let's take 425 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: another break and we'll come back with a final piece 426 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: of strange news for today. And we have returned with 427 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: one more story that is probably going to be familiar 428 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: to many of our long time fellow conspiracy realist CERN 429 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: the home of the large head drawn Collider UH. This 430 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: thing has been doing some amazing science for a while now. 431 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: It has also been a regular recurring star in many 432 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: many UH conspiracy theories, stuff like hey, Siren is creating 433 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: a black hole, stuff like miniature black holes, or will 434 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: turning nodser and destroy the Earth? That was a big one, Matt, 435 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: you remember from our house of works they UH. But 436 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: think some part to TikTok. There's a new theory on 437 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: the block, and you will find tons of people insisting 438 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: that CERN has actually shifted the timeline, that the world 439 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: we are living in now has um altered in fundamental 440 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: ways from the world in which we formerly resided. Now, 441 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: the multiverse as a concept is on everybody's mind. We 442 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: were into it before Marvel thought it was cool. Right, 443 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: We've all had these really trippy off air conversations about 444 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: this um. But first I want to ask before we 445 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: dive in. Have you guys heard of this? Are you? 446 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the the certain conspiracy theory, the 447 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: two point five version very much. A lot of people 448 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: on Clubhouse believe this, at least they say they do. 449 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm seeing it popping all over the place, Like you 450 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: said on TikTok, I'm seeing even Instagram like reels, just 451 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: lots of social media posts about it, like cerns gearing 452 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: back up. You know what that means. We're jumping timelines again. 453 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen the details been anywhere, So just what 454 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: have you heard about? I only get my news from TikTok. 455 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: Just for the record, so I only get my news 456 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: from this old man who lives inside a sewer across 457 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: the street from me. It's very like it's style. I 458 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: just go over there, azing, he's always giggling. Yeah, yeah, 459 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: he's I mean, he's got his he's got his ear 460 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: to the street. Literally. But news sources aside, it is 461 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: important to know where where your sources come from. But 462 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: this all began. The genesis of this begins when after 463 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: three years of not being active, CERN is turned on 464 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: once more. And it's not like it was collecting to us, 465 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: those three years were spent doing maintenance and putting in 466 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: a number of upgrades. And when Certain was turned on, 467 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: it observed three exotic particles for the first time, So 468 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: it's doing significant science. They're looking into stuff like the pentacuark, 469 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: which is a thing that I was unaware of. Uh. 470 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: And then they're also breaking records for the highest energy 471 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: particle collisions ever performed, you know. And this like a 472 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: lot of people heard about in the conversation of the 473 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: so called God particle right Uh. And now it's back 474 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 1: in the news. As he said, propagated by social media. 475 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to read you guys some of the thoughts. 476 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: Here's one from Twitter quote. So nobody else is concerned 477 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: that the Certain collider will be turning on July five 478 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 1: and opening up a portal and letting some dark sided 479 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: come through. And then someone else says July five, Cern, 480 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: it's time to get right with God and protect your 481 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: energy hashtag sir, just really drive it home. Uh. And 482 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: then on July five, will be feeling a sudden shift 483 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: in the universe. It will feel like we've changed timelines. 484 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: Do your research about sird. If you think things have 485 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: been weird, it's about to feel even weirder. Protect your 486 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: energy at all costs from negative meditate. That one ends 487 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: with meditate. Uh, let's see. I'll do the last one 488 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 1: here anticipating the activation, sir, and got me feeling some 489 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: type of way the gives you the right to be 490 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: opening portals? And isn't two crazy enough? She's so what 491 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: do you guys? They has that changed your mind? Miley? 492 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: Thing is what? What? What? What is? I don't understand 493 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: the assertion that shooting particles, you know, at very high speeds, 494 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: like you said, the highest speeds that we've ever done, 495 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: that shooting them fastly we ever had before, and and 496 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: colliding them for research. Where does that inslate into creating 497 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: a portal? Is it the Is it people's like visualization 498 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: of portals in video games and and fiction like movies, 499 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: where the portals are this kind of like oval shaped 500 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: thing and they're just imagining that that high energy particles 501 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: doing that will open on some kind of portal. Clearly, 502 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: you're not up to data on stranger things. They explain 503 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: all the science in the new season. It's all right there. Now, Yeah, 504 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: that's fun. It's a good question, and yeah, fun show. 505 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: It's a good question to Matt, and it's one that 506 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: you're you're applying some much needed critical thought to this aspect. First, yes, 507 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: certain is doing new science. People have not done this before, 508 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: so it is highly likely that new, unexpected things will happen. 509 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: The question is whether those things will be disastrous or apocalyptic, 510 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: and the answer, as we found every time we look 511 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: into this over the years, the answer is no. Right. Basically, 512 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: the answer is that if the world ends, it won't 513 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: be because of cern. And I think we all feel 514 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: all right saying that, based on the conversations we've had 515 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: with scientists, based on the papers we've read, in the 516 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: research we've done, a lot of the quote unquote danger 517 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: of cern has been overblown. But what stood out to 518 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: me is one, there's not a ton of in depth 519 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: explanation about how this parallel universe timeline theory would work. 520 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: But there's also when I first started looking at it, 521 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: there wasn't a ton of explanation about why July Why 522 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: July five? Right? Uh? My old man's birthday, by the way, 523 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: So he loved this because he was like, oh, it 524 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: involves me somehow. Well, I think you should look into it. 525 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: And I'm kidding, but uh, but it all goes back 526 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: to Apoe just about a portal of astrological proportions. The 527 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: original post is something like be ready for July five everyone, 528 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Protect your energy, be alert, don't 529 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: do things that lower your vibration, your energy, or your focus. 530 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: Certain will be opening a portal on July five, that 531 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: began getting it ready when the planets aligned on June. 532 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: Does that persuade you? So? Wait, So this is like 533 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: this is an intentional portal opening? Is the conjecture here? Yeah? Yeah, 534 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: because the stars to end. They just want to watch 535 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: the world burn or get sucked into a black hole. 536 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: Like I don't understand these certain fellas what they're what 537 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: they're up to. Yeah, yeah, it's a it's not really explained, 538 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of the people who are reporting on 539 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: this theory or purporting to believe it are in disagreement themselves. 540 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: You know, there's some folks on YouTube who are saying 541 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: this is a portal to hell. And then you can 542 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: find lectures about astrology, etcetera, etcetera. But I would ask 543 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: how many people genuinely believe this? And here's why. TikTok 544 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: is a heavily competitive social media environment, which is the 545 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: most corporate thing I've said today, But but it's true. 546 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: And if you want to succeed quote unquote succeed in 547 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: uh in an environment like TikTok, then you want a 548 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: video to be shared and viewed many, many times, which 549 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: means you want to nail something in the zeitgeist. So 550 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: I asked this question to myself pretty often on social media. 551 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: When you see a trend of a conversation and it 552 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: seems like something a lot of people are believing that's 553 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: kind of easy to debunk, then you have to ask 554 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 1: yourself about their motivations are they Are they posting this 555 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,959 Speaker 1: because they want to tell you the truth about cern 556 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: or the flat earth or insert here, or do they 557 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: want eyeballs and clicks? You know? How what what would 558 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: you pretend to believe for millions of views? You know? Well, yeah, 559 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: I know, I know exactly what you're saying, and all 560 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: of that feels very real to me as a motivation 561 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: for some but for others, I think it's just fear 562 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: about this thing that a very select few number of 563 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: people ever go to, ever work on, you know, under 564 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: even understand the science behind um in it is. I mean, 565 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: there's been actual reporting from certain itself. They make statements. 566 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: Do you remember back in the day, Ben when the 567 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: LHC was first becoming a thing and they put out 568 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: statements about microscopic black holes. That was that was one 569 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: of the big talking points. Everybody was worried about the 570 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: black holes, so that this thing is going to create 571 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: and they had to come forward and explain like there 572 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: it's very unlikely that this this collider will create black holes, 573 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: microscopic black holes, but if it does, here's the science 574 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: behind a black hole of that size, because of the 575 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: actual energies that are being produced here, or that that 576 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: the protons contain that are being shot together. And it 577 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: was just it was they had to talk people out 578 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: of a fear quite uh adamantly, I guess, yeah, And 579 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: that's I mean, it's understandable. It's it's a rational fear 580 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: to have, and a lot of it goes back to 581 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: the way science is reported to the public. Right, what 582 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: makes what makes a headline that elicits an emotion. What 583 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: what compels people to read from one sentence to the next, 584 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: and so on and so on. But this does a 585 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: disservice because it encourages, again a very rational fear to expand, 586 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: and it doesn't seek to check that fear right because 587 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: redactions and corrections always run at the back of the paper, 588 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: never on the front. Everywhere you see the headline. So 589 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: I I know that people are coming from an honest 590 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 1: place here, and I want to agree in part with 591 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: this because we are, you know, civilization is forging into 592 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: unknown territory and certain itself phrases things and really interesting, 593 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: uh intriguing ways. For example, their current run, which is 594 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: scheduled to run through five, is trying to answer several questions. 595 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: The Times characterize their questions this way. Where did the 596 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 1: universe come from? Why is it made of matta rather 597 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: than anti matta? What is the doc matter that suffuses 598 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: the cosmos? How does the Higgs particle itself have mass? 599 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: Before we got to that last sentence, he sounded like 600 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: space villains. You've seen Stranger Things season four, that's at 601 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: least that person has. This is wild, Yeah, and of 602 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: course we want to visit sir, and I would love 603 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: to check it out. Yeah, my god. But also I 604 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: think it surely you have to have you have to 605 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: be credentials. We could maybe have have some pull We 606 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: could try, um, you know, pulling some strings, see if 607 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: we have any juice at cern or suction as they say. 608 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: But there's another bigger thing at play here, which is 609 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: just in general, the concept of reality. I think part 610 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: I think that's become an ingredient of the current fear 611 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 1: and theories because the idea of multiple realities is increasingly 612 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: in the zeitgeist, you know, at least in our version 613 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: of reality, the Mandela effect. It's something I get questions 614 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: about increasingly every single month. Right, Marvel movies, everything everywhere, 615 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: all at once, which was awesome, awesome ride. Uh. They 616 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: explore the idea of multiverses. Various religions have explored concepts 617 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: like this as well. On a spiritual tip, you have 618 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: to wonder why people are searching for that kind of 619 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: it's like the search for the soul. Right, the more 620 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: you learn about the human body, the less likely it 621 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 1: seems there is a soul. But the idea that people 622 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: continue doing that is in a way it's kind of 623 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: proof of something like a soul. It makes that search 624 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: even more compelling and strange. So why are people right 625 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: now obsessed with multiple universes? Do you guys think it's 626 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: just that everyone's had a really rough two years. Do 627 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: you think it's just the Marvel effect? What is it? 628 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: It's always been inching clot device. Well, oh, that's a 629 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: good point where reaching critical mass perhaps, But I mean 630 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: to but I mean, you know, Matt, you're into the 631 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: invisibles and a lot of the weirdo kind of you know, 632 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: um kind of alternative comics and stuff. And then I 633 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: know you are too. We all are. But I mean 634 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: that's always been an interesting plot point in in you know, 635 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: books like that, uh is, alternate universes and alternaate dimensions 636 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: and traveling to you know, places where there's like a 637 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: bizarro world versions of yourself or hell, even like back 638 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: to the future. You can consider time travel being like 639 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: alternate timelines. I think it's just part of our upbringing, 640 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, pop culturally speaking. Well, yeah, and we're simultaneously 641 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: the most connected we've ever been, or feel like we're 642 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: the most connected we've ever been to everyone and the 643 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: absolute least physically connected. And then when you know, all this, 644 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: like this terrifying stuff is happening around us, and on 645 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: the horizon, it always feels like something new and awful 646 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: is on the way. That's just kind of piles on 647 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: top of the last thing. It's just our anxiety. Is 648 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: that maximum right now? I think? Yeah. The motto of 649 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: the year two is simply what now? You know what 650 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Like every time you read the news, you 651 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: know the what no? Moment? Every every time I crossed 652 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: the street and talk to the creepy guy in the sewer, 653 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: who is again my only source of news? It's a 654 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,959 Speaker 1: what now? Situation? And people are I think, of course, 655 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: news is incentivized in many ways to be negative, which 656 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: I think is a woeful miscalculation. But um, because of 657 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 1: that paradoxical connection you're talking about, Matt, people are more 658 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: aware of things they ordinarily would not have been cognizant of. Right, 659 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: So they're seeing more bad news. It's not necessarily true 660 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: that more bad things are happening. It's just that the 661 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: average person is more likely to be informed about them. 662 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: And that's that's a good thing overall, But then it 663 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: also creates all kinds of feedback loops, all kinds of 664 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: um increasingly extremists beliefs, arguments, and viewpoints. Um, I don't know. 665 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: I think humans know so very little about the nature 666 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: of reality that it would be somewhat arrogant to say 667 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: this is the only one, wouldn't it? You would what 668 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: are you going? Off? Vibes? Going off vibes and you're like, 669 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: hek is it? This is the one reminder to go 670 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 1: and rent vibes if you can, on the streaming service 671 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: of your choice. Have you you're the odd man out here? 672 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: I think Ben and I both Ben, You've been screaming 673 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: its praises for years and I finally watched it, and 674 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: I found it to be quite a romp and and 675 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: very relevance to just about everything we talked about on 676 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: this show. You're right. Jeff Goldbloom calls it, uh the 677 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: reason he wakes up and acts in another timeline, That's 678 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: what he calls it. There we go. This is like 679 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: the new rhetorical device we're going to use. But at 680 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 1: this point, you know, because this brings up so many questions, 681 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: some of which people can't answer. Similar to Blake LeMoyne's 682 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: conversations about lambda and the nature of sentience and the soul, 683 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: since it brings up these unanswerable questions. We would love 684 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: your perspective on the idea of multi verse, like a 685 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: multiversell structure of reality, parallel world's timelines? Can they be 686 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 1: disrupted all of that community episode which is still great? Actually, uh, 687 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: let us know the pizza. Yes, yeah, and we got 688 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: we got meaned on that one, so thanks. Uh holly On, 689 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: Here's where it gets crazy. What do you think is 690 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: up with the assassination of former Prime Minister Abe in Japan? 691 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: And what are your tips for summoning Bigfoot? We are 692 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: all ears and we can't wait to hear from you. 693 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: We try to be easy to find online. This is true. 694 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: You can find this online. We are conspiracy stuff on Facebook, 695 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: on YouTube, and on Twitter, on Instagram, you can find 696 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: conspiracy stuff show um. 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