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Speaker 1: Welcome back All the Smoke.
Speaker 2: Jack.
Speaker 1: We got a good one today, man. We got a
Speaker 1: good when we had LaMarcus all just first, that was
Speaker 1: a dope ass interview. But I think this is the
Speaker 1: one we've been waiting on all trip man. We went
Speaker 1: on you all trips.
Speaker 2: Before. It's crazy, before you start. See Lamark. We was
Speaker 2: filming like two days ago. I seen lamarkets Sultiers. He
Speaker 2: ain't know about our shows, so he's walking by. I'm like,
Speaker 2: come in here, man. You're like, it's fucking harassing me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's your health, bro. You are right my nigga,
Speaker 2: because we wanted to talk to the nigga, but he
Speaker 2: didn't even know what the fuck we had going on.
Speaker 2: Shout to them, Marcus Soldiers, Man, this is what it is,
Speaker 2: is a show. Come fuck with us. Sometimes my nigga.
Speaker 2: He was depe to like because you know he's someone
Speaker 2: that don't really speak. He came and broke down the
Speaker 2: game we had. We had a blast with him, That's
Speaker 2: what's up.
Speaker 1: But really, bro I mean, how the transition has been
Speaker 1: a beautiful I think you think you've taken this lane,
Speaker 1: you know, by surprise, and created your own lane, being
Speaker 1: able to capitalize off it financially and just other business
Speaker 1: you know ventures as well. But how did the process start?
Speaker 1: You originally started it is what it is. I think
Speaker 1: he was by yourself and an old girl, and tell
Speaker 1: us how that whole process came about.
Speaker 2: That. First of all, thank you guys, because niggas like
Speaker 2: y'all made it possible for a person like me to
Speaker 2: even entertain this because a lot of times niggas just
Speaker 2: be corny and I'd be like, this is just a
Speaker 2: whole corny lane, Like I don't even want to fuck
Speaker 2: with this shit period. But so many people was coming
Speaker 2: to me like yo to a podcast, be on our podcast, dude,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't really want to talk to
Speaker 2: niggas for a living, Like if I had to talk
Speaker 2: to niggas for a living, I don't want to do it,
Speaker 2: and I love sports. I always watch sports and shit.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, look, it's no real niggas talking how
Speaker 2: we talk with a professional setting in the background. So
Speaker 2: I said to myself, look, I'm gonna get the suits,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna build a set, and then when you get
Speaker 2: up there, Oh, when you watch it, you're gonna be like, oh, nah,
Speaker 2: the fuck going on? Like when we first I did
Speaker 2: the first couple of episodes, niggas said, Yo, they got
Speaker 2: cam talking like this on ESPN. They didn't know what
Speaker 2: the fuck was going on. Yeah, because the set was
Speaker 2: there and everything. So I just took a chance on
Speaker 2: me and was like, I'm gonna try and do sports,
Speaker 2: but do sports my way. Very knowledgeable on sports, maybe
Speaker 2: not as knowledgeable or experience you niggas got. But at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I watched like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be on the phone arguing with niggas for two hours
Speaker 2: about sports. You look at her phone and it said
Speaker 2: an hour seventeen minutes about arguing with sports anyway.
Speaker 1: And he was doing it for free, right.
Speaker 2: For no reason. So I built the set I got,
Speaker 2: you know, I got production company down in Miami and
Speaker 2: that was it. My man felt the talent that was
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. In the beginning, we had a girl
Speaker 2: named Asthmarelda. She was a dope monerator, but you know,
Speaker 2: sometime I would throw it to her and she wouldn't
Speaker 2: know what the fuck was going on. No disrespect to
Speaker 2: as morel She's a really dope monerator, very professional, very
Speaker 2: very good cadence. So I don't want to throw no
Speaker 2: shade on her name. So hopefully she's doing well, is
Speaker 2: doing well right now, but stat no sports. She goes
Speaker 2: to school for that shit. She went to University of Miami.
Speaker 2: So the first couple of episodes, I had my old
Speaker 2: coach on there shout out to my man and Dave
Speaker 2: and I had I didn't even have Asthmarelda had another
Speaker 2: lady and they was cool. They was real good, but
Speaker 2: they was doing you know, sometime these licenshit fucked is up.
Speaker 2: So then when so when you say not saying my
Speaker 2: coach wasn't good, he was good. But then when the
Speaker 2: camera cut he started talking man shit, and I'm like, yo, bro,
Speaker 2: you gotta do this when the camera's on. He's doing
Speaker 2: all this crazy shit, throwing the phone on type of
Speaker 2: shit when the camera's off. So I shot two episodes
Speaker 2: last November, shot an episode in December, took Christmas off.
Speaker 2: I was gonna come back January. My mom got sick.
Speaker 2: She got diagnosed with cancer January eighth, Yeah, and from
Speaker 2: Jane she died February ninth. So for like a month,
Speaker 2: I just had to sit there and watch my mom die,
Speaker 2: like literally in the hospital, you know, because you know,
Speaker 2: she got to the hospital stage for cancer. It wasn't
Speaker 2: even like she wasn't feeling well before that, like we
Speaker 2: was cool. She just had a problem breathing one day
Speaker 2: and she's in the hospital for a month. So I
Speaker 2: sat there for a month and watched my mother die,
Speaker 2: and that shit fucked me up for a minute. Got
Speaker 2: myself back together. So then he picked the show back
Speaker 2: up and Mace as a guest. Mace like the energy. Uh.
Speaker 2: He asked me to be partners. I said, I put
Speaker 2: up a quarter mill if you and he said I'm
Speaker 2: match it. I said, I ain't spend it yet, which
Speaker 2: we never had to spend a quarter meal, but he
Speaker 2: want the matches, So we became partners and that's how
Speaker 2: we hit the show.
Speaker 1: That's dope. So how to to backtrack a little bit
Speaker 1: because obviously there was some friction between you and Mace,
Speaker 1: so obviously you guys have squashed it before that. But
Speaker 1: what was it like being able to reconnect with him
Speaker 1: and then I mean, I don't think y'all knew how
Speaker 1: big this was going to be, But what was that
Speaker 1: process like kind of healing that friendship first and then
Speaker 1: become a business partners again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like no, Mace gave me, gave me an opportunity
Speaker 2: to get my first record deal. You know, he had
Speaker 2: his record deal. So we was playing high school basketball.
Speaker 2: I was fifteen All America, come out of high school.
Speaker 2: I was supposed to go to University of Miami. He
Speaker 2: was twenty three and old. My senior year lost in
Speaker 2: the first round of playoffs. I never went back to school.
Speaker 2: Fucked that satis, Fuck everybody. I got the second one
Speaker 2: back to school. Yeah, so then so then I so
Speaker 2: then fucking like July came and I'm like, everybody's like, yo,
Speaker 2: what school going to them? I'm like, damn, I didn't
Speaker 2: even finish school. So it's like a you know, a
Speaker 2: street street vend. I would say my mayor, Rodney Parky,
Speaker 2: passed away because I stopped speaking in University of Miami
Speaker 2: and everything, and I went down to Texas. I went
Speaker 2: to a school called Navarro Junior College. Yeah, of course
Speaker 2: I Canda Texas, So I went down there. Uh, red
Speaker 2: shirted my first year. I told all my ligaments in
Speaker 2: my ankle. So I read shirted my first year and
Speaker 2: just got in wild trouble. Like you know, everybody know
Speaker 2: Walmart now like Walmart wasn't in New York at nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety four, and Walmart now wasn't like it is in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four. Like Walmart, you go get the Rito's
Speaker 2: potato chips in the shotgun. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And I just was buying guns and shit, and I
Speaker 2: ended up getting in. While we won't get into it,
Speaker 2: I got what I did, but it just got kicked
Speaker 2: out of school. So when I got kicked out of
Speaker 2: school makes it older than me. He had a record deal,
Speaker 2: were about to get his record deal, and he got
Speaker 2: started with bad boys. So I never went back to
Speaker 2: school after that. I just started running around with him.
Speaker 2: When he got his deal and started signing three four
Speaker 2: million records, he took me the Biggie Smalls. Biggie Smalls
Speaker 2: gave me my first record deal, he passed away, and
Speaker 2: so on and so forth. So just giving you a
Speaker 2: history of how we got to with Mace. So Mace
Speaker 2: he did a video for me, his first video, my
Speaker 2: first video, three fifty seven, which was dope. And then
Speaker 2: I had another single with him called a Horse and
Speaker 2: Carriage and he didn't do that video. So my label
Speaker 2: started gassing me, like yo, why yeah, man ain't doing
Speaker 2: the video. He won fifty thousand to do the video.
Speaker 2: So I started feeding into that shit. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I'm like, or this, nig I get funny
Speaker 2: charging me for the video, this, that, and the third.
Speaker 2: So we kind of fell out over that got cool again.
Speaker 2: Then you know, he went to church. I kind of
Speaker 2: didn't understand it at the time because that's like my
Speaker 2: man all day and I'm like where church come from?
Speaker 2: So I started bugging out, don't know because of that,
Speaker 2: Like so ought to be honest with you, the whole
Speaker 2: shit was my fault and just not understanding the kind
Speaker 2: of path he was on at the time. So I
Speaker 2: was kind of was going at him on records and shit,
Speaker 2: and he was ignoring me and shit. Then one day
Speaker 2: he made the Oracle and kind of kind of flushed
Speaker 2: me one day. I was like, that was pretty tough.
Speaker 2: Was Oracle was tough? Yeah? But you know when he
Speaker 2: made the Oracle, I felt like you brought him back. Nah,
Speaker 2: not that because May still could roun May used to
Speaker 2: do it when he wanted to do I felt like, like, uh,
Speaker 2: Denzel and training day when the nigga threw him on
Speaker 2: the ground, the shotgu and You'd be like, yeah, leave
Speaker 2: that nigga alone. That's that nigga right there, because I
Speaker 2: know the nigga could really rhyme. So we got cool
Speaker 2: again last year some time I tried to put a
Speaker 2: tour together. Tour didn't go well, and U we just
Speaker 2: stayed cool after that, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 2: one thing about Mace, he always gonna be cool. But
Speaker 2: we making some real money, He's gonna stick around. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I say, ain't gonna call you
Speaker 2: or do nothing else. But me and him is on
Speaker 2: the same age. If it's a real money, we're gonna
Speaker 2: stick around. But well, we started speaking again. We want
Speaker 2: to speaking for like twelve thirteen, maybe fourteen years, but
Speaker 2: they picked back right back. I got my not since
Speaker 2: I was nine ten years old, so it's like we
Speaker 2: didn't even skip a beat. As soon as we got together,
Speaker 2: we started laughing about the same shit we was laughed
Speaker 2: about before, started talking about the same old shit. So
Speaker 2: as soon as we healed that relationship, it was like
Speaker 2: the fifteen years didn't even matter. We just picked up
Speaker 2: from the day we stopped speaking. So it was real cool.
Speaker 1: That's dope. Congratulations, we saw you signed Mark Jackson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, we didn't sign Mark Jackson. Let's be
Speaker 2: real clear, and that Mark wants to be real clear
Speaker 2: on that. With that, we partner with Mark Jackson. H
Speaker 2: pardon me. I got tired of what the fuck they
Speaker 2: was doing the Mark man, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. That shit was some real
Speaker 2: bullshit what they is during the Mark So I called
Speaker 2: a text Mark. I got his number. So as soon
Speaker 2: as that happened, I'm like, yo, Mark, you could make
Speaker 2: some bread with this podcast shit. And we started talking
Speaker 2: numbers and shit, and he like he was telling me
Speaker 2: what he was making and I'm not gonna put his
Speaker 2: business out there with ESPN, And I'm like, Mark, give
Speaker 2: me an opportunity to make you more than what you're
Speaker 2: making now. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not saying that I don't want to talk
Speaker 2: to nobody business or nothing. But it wasn't It's no
Speaker 2: reason that we should me be me doing sports, should
Speaker 2: even be in the same conversation financially with Mark Jackson,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So, uh, we's talking for months.
Speaker 2: Soon as he got fired or let it go however
Speaker 2: you want to fucking put it from ESPN. I reached
Speaker 2: right out Yo Mark, Yo Mark, Yo Mark, and he
Speaker 2: like yo ir killer. So this is going on for
Speaker 2: like two months, and I'm like, Mark, I'm telling you
Speaker 2: because you know, you gotta realize when I when I
Speaker 2: started to think about it, you gotta think about this.
Speaker 2: This is about to be something totally new parton for Mark. Mark.
Speaker 2: When you think about his career, right, man, went goes
Speaker 2: to high school, he goes to Saint John's, he goes
Speaker 2: to the NBA. So you got a job when you
Speaker 2: go to NBA. You got the NBA. You're coaching, so
Speaker 2: you got a job when you're coaching. When you're not coaching,
Speaker 2: you're announcing you have a job. So Mark be having
Speaker 2: a job all these years. So I'm not saying he
Speaker 2: was scared to be his own boss step in the
Speaker 2: new space. This is just what he's used to. So
Speaker 2: when I'm presenting all this stuff to him, like, Yo,
Speaker 2: nigga ain't gotta work for niggas, no more, nigga ain't
Speaker 2: gonna fire you know, niggas yet ship and you're gonna
Speaker 2: make just as much, not more money. He was kind
Speaker 2: of hesitant on it. And then Mark was like, so
Speaker 2: with you get out of it, like like you're like, yo,
Speaker 2: you know, cause I ain't trying to get robbed or nothing.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yo, bro, where the fucking America I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go. I rob Mark Jackson, nigga, you you write
Speaker 2: under McDonald's like fucking cleansliness niggas Mark Jackson. Is McDonald's
Speaker 2: doing it? Is Mark Jackson, nigga. I can't go on
Speaker 2: to seven eleven. I robbed Mark Jackson. Nobody trying to
Speaker 2: get over on you. So he's hesitating. I said, Mark,
Speaker 2: can I come meet you? So I tell the nigga Mason,
Speaker 2: I say, yo, I'm gonna take a duffel bag to Mark,
Speaker 2: Yo until we get these papers together. Ma it's like
Speaker 2: how much you take it? All right, I'm taking a
Speaker 2: card a ticket to him. He's like, I beg, I
Speaker 2: come grab two fifty two. So I went and guy
Speaker 2: on the jet went to me. Mark had the bag.
Speaker 2: Mark said, what's this. I says, yours till we get
Speaker 2: all the paperwork and everything else. I can't take this,
Speaker 2: I said, Mom, I'm just trying to let you know.
Speaker 2: I'm so serious, my nigga. So Walker's like, you know,
Speaker 2: we talked about the you know, having his own show
Speaker 2: coming on our show, h you know, a couple of
Speaker 2: times to present his own show, and he was you know,
Speaker 2: it took him off. It took him a while, just
Speaker 2: because I believe he thought he was trying to get
Speaker 2: over on him. We bought Underdog Fantasy in got him
Speaker 2: equity and Underdog Fan to see some stock options ownership
Speaker 2: in the company, and he started seeing that when he
Speaker 2: started seeing the ownership and the equity, he could get Uh.
Speaker 2: It were like that. So he didn't take the money
Speaker 2: though I'm not taking that back. I was like, like, Marcus, yours,
Speaker 2: I'm not leaving with it. But he didn't take the money.
Speaker 2: But that's how serious we was. We went over there
Speaker 2: with some bread and said, Mark, we just here to
Speaker 2: show you cash. Nigga, it is yours. You don't even
Speaker 2: gotta worry about it. We'll use this when the deal
Speaker 2: get done. And uh, that's how serious me and Max
Speaker 2: was about just want Mark to get his own money
Speaker 2: and not Nigga's playing with that Nigga like that where
Speaker 2: they could be like, oh, we're going through budget cuts,
Speaker 2: so we can't have you here and so on and
Speaker 2: so forth, because Nigga, I don't even know how the
Speaker 2: NBA Final was gonna go this year without Jeff Van Gunny,
Speaker 2: your Mark. You know what I'm saying. That's what I'm
Speaker 2: used to hearing the last ten, eleven, twelve years or whatever.
Speaker 2: So I'm just happy that Mark gave us an opportunity.
Speaker 1: To do this so that he'll come out in twenty four.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, he's gonna We ain't figured the DATESI
Speaker 2: we just literally literally signed paperwork Friday, like this was
Speaker 2: like a four month process. Okay, so but thank you
Speaker 2: Mark for giving us the opportunity. And yeh, I know
Speaker 2: you ain't take our bag, but we got your bag anyway, man.
Speaker 2: So that's the main thing that we could dolly make
Speaker 2: more money than we making.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, two questions real quick. One has ne along
Speaker 1: responded to your d M yet?
Speaker 2: You know what it is? Man? My image is fucked up? Man,
Speaker 2: like yo, yo that she got to know me. I'm
Speaker 2: a nice guy, like yo, Chicks don't really leave me
Speaker 2: after they get to know me. You know, I got
Speaker 2: all these wild as songs like my number one number
Speaker 2: two song is called sucking or not pause Like, I
Speaker 2: got real bad image sometime with females. So answer is no,
Speaker 2: she didn't respond to me yet. But uh Nia, if
Speaker 2: you watch it, just open the DM and that's it. Man,
Speaker 2: We'll go from there. But not shen't respond yet.
Speaker 1: OJ, you got the juice talking talking ship. Whose idea
Speaker 1: was that? And how's that process been going?
Speaker 2: Uh? It was Mace's idea. Uh so he like, like
Speaker 2: Mace come up with the idea. Then a lot of
Speaker 2: ideas and I go bust the move. So I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: I gotta go find OJ. I'm like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: am I gonna find O? J A. I called it's funny.
Speaker 2: I called Steve Stout. I'm like, yo, Steve Stout, find
Speaker 2: me OJ. He said, what the fuck are you calling
Speaker 2: me like I could just get in contact with OJ. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know everybody, nigga. He's like, oh, J,
Speaker 2: don't kim. He said, you're fucking crazy, man, I said.
Speaker 2: He said, but I'm Linel Richie might know o J.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call Lael Richie. I'm like, you got Linel
Speaker 2: Richie number in your pocket, nigga and your phone. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I call Lionel. Make a long story short. Uh OJ
Speaker 2: lived in Vegas. So a friend of mine who I
Speaker 2: do a lot of business out here with, named Larry
Speaker 2: Smith out here in Vegas. He knew one of OJ's lawyers,
Speaker 2: who knew OJ's main lawyer, and we made the call
Speaker 2: and uh I talked to OJ. He was with it.
Speaker 2: Uh it was really that simple. Just once we found him.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even like no big thing to get them over.
Speaker 2: He was excited to do the show. And then as
Speaker 2: far as how the process going, it's going great. Man,
Speaker 2: Like OJ's really knowledgeable. You know, he has a lot
Speaker 2: of accolades that people sweep under the bus. They just
Speaker 2: don't acknowledge it because you know, you know, realistic. You know,
Speaker 2: we ain't gonna have an eleph in the room. In
Speaker 2: public opinion, he's guilty in a lot of people's eyes,
Speaker 2: but he not guilty in the court of law. So
Speaker 2: if you're not guilty in the court of law, come
Speaker 2: on the show and let's rock out. Because so many
Speaker 2: every week when we do shit and they be like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's about to break this record, Like Christian McCaffrey had
Speaker 2: fifteen touchdowns in a row. OJ has sixties. So there's like,
Speaker 2: in next week, he's going to break somebody's record, but
Speaker 2: they won't say whose record is. Oh really yeah, like
Speaker 2: ESPN or ABC, they won't say whose record it is.
Speaker 2: And then like you know, people get two thousand yards
Speaker 2: rushing football wise, and they don't mention that OJ had
Speaker 2: two thousand yard in a fourteen game see a fourteen
Speaker 2: game season. Yo, these games, sixteen, seventeen games, This man
Speaker 2: two thousand yards in a fourteen game season, all these
Speaker 2: records that be getting broken. When it's about to be
Speaker 2: OJ records is being broken, they'll be like, well, he's
Speaker 2: about to break a record. They don't say he was record.
Speaker 2: This shit is so OJ's funny. Niggas forget OJ was
Speaker 2: in movies.
Speaker 1: OJ's commentating all the naked guns all the shit like, so.
Speaker 2: He's really uh, he's really dope to have on the show.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 1: Explain your thought with new media and how it's kind
Speaker 1: of taken over the traditional space, right.
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny like a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: when I wasn't doing this, and you know, I used
Speaker 2: to hear Dremond say it a lot, you like new
Speaker 2: media and new media, and I just watched it. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just watching. So it's like whatever media
Speaker 2: is media to me. And when I started doing this,
Speaker 2: I understand it now, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: kind of get what's going on because everybody's not gonna
Speaker 2: be happy with what we're doing, the what you guys
Speaker 2: are doing, and then especially the bags the niggas is grabbing.
Speaker 2: Niggas don't like that shit at all. They don't really
Speaker 2: like that shit. Especially you know, you gotta think about
Speaker 2: this shit, right, Like, think about fucking Pat McAfee at
Speaker 2: twelve in the afternoon cursing on ESPN and the yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: but cursing fuck what he wearing this ESPN at twelve
Speaker 2: it afternoon. Think about all the niggas who've been up
Speaker 2: there before, and who still can't curse. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. This niggas up there like they better not
Speaker 2: say shit two three, seven in the morning, five in
Speaker 2: the afternoon, they better not. But that's because he leveraged
Speaker 2: his own brand to where they want to fuck with him,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's always better bet
Speaker 2: on yourself. But as far as new means concerned, I
Speaker 2: think it's dope because now with social media, you don't
Speaker 2: have to wait for somebody to come interview interview, You
Speaker 2: don't have to wait to give your opinion out. You
Speaker 2: don't have to fucking sit there and say, yo, this
Speaker 2: reporter is going to talk about me, because you could get
Speaker 2: it them immediately. Like we have a lot of fun
Speaker 2: with skip baylists because he's he's shit, you know that niggas.
Speaker 2: He's annoying sometimes, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 2: kind of like, Yo, it's kind of revenge, and I
Speaker 2: fuck with you. I don't know him, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: he's a staple of the supposed community. We can't act
Speaker 2: like he's not. But that nigga fucks with a lot
Speaker 2: of niggas and he knows the debates, Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: it gets viewers. So anytime he's in the news, we
Speaker 2: get we go right at skips because it's now not
Speaker 2: only do we y'all talk about players. Now you got
Speaker 2: a platform to win. We come on five days a
Speaker 2: week and we can talk about the niggas, just talking
Speaker 2: about nigg exactly, you know, exactly. Yeah they don't like that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they don't like that shit.
Speaker 3: Ye let's take a step back a bit. What was
Speaker 3: young Cam and East Harlem? Like, know you was hustling
Speaker 3: and being fly, y'all. You know that, y'all always said Harlem,
Speaker 3: that's where all the swag come from. Talk about growing
Speaker 3: up in East Harlem as a young Cam.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually from West hallm but my grandmother is
Speaker 2: from the East Side, so I'm kind of from both
Speaker 2: because you know, you can do it your grandmother's house
Speaker 2: on the weekend or whatever. But yeah, I'm from I'm
Speaker 2: from one hundred forty Street and Lenox Avenue. Uh. I
Speaker 2: grew up around a lot of talent, but you don't
Speaker 2: really know its talent when you're growing up. You gotta realize,
Speaker 2: like sham Guard lives around the corner from me, Big
Speaker 2: y'all lives around the corner from me, Ali Mo. I
Speaker 2: don't know if y'all know Ali Mo to Blackwo been
Speaker 2: in the league. Yeah, he should have been in the league.
Speaker 2: The nigga live in my building. Who y'all telling my
Speaker 2: nigga sixty eight point guard nigga black. Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to tell you. But this is all,
Speaker 2: this is all in two block proximity. This is all
Speaker 2: the talent mace comes to my black herbal There's a
Speaker 2: lot of rappers and basketball players, but Ali Mo actually
Speaker 2: taught me the fundamentals of basketball, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: before I went to play for Gauchos or Riverside anything
Speaker 2: like that. Like I'm talking about like it's seven years old.
Speaker 2: Like he was already good. He had brothers to play basketball, So, uh,
Speaker 2: I didn't know double dribble and walking. The nigga used
Speaker 2: to get so fucking mad at me, like, Yo, you're
Speaker 2: fucking traveling, Yo, you fucking walking. So he taught me
Speaker 2: a lot. But Ali moshould definitely been the league. But
Speaker 2: growing up there, it's just a belting pot of a
Speaker 2: lot of talent. So you got drug dealers and you
Speaker 2: got people who see past drug dealer who may be
Speaker 2: selling drugs to say, I don't want to do this
Speaker 2: forever because the big time drug dealers may not see
Speaker 2: the visional rap or may not invested in a basketball
Speaker 2: player because they didn't understand that they potentially could go
Speaker 2: to the NBA, or you could potentially be a platinum artist.
Speaker 2: So like a lot of times, to be honest with me,
Speaker 2: as far as like hustling in Harlem, I didn't really
Speaker 2: get a lot of money, hustling at Harlem, I didn't
Speaker 2: really get a lot of money, hustling time went to Ohio.
Speaker 2: To be honest in Chicago because as much as they
Speaker 2: tell you here go twenty dollars, don't do this and
Speaker 2: don't do that. Like yo, nigga, I need Jordan's nigga,
Speaker 2: I need I want a rope chain. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But they wouldn't. You can't really do anything.
Speaker 2: Like I had a big dust block on my block,
Speaker 2: so like my block was famous for selling dust, Like
Speaker 2: Wu Tang used to come all the time and buy
Speaker 2: mad that's from my block. Like that's for man, the
Speaker 2: only reason I'm saying this, he said it. Yeah, he said,
Speaker 2: that's the only reason I'm even saying that I used
Speaker 2: to put it in songs. I'm like that. When I
Speaker 2: seeing the niggas say it, I'm like, okay, cool, Like
Speaker 2: I say something about these niggas used to buy mad dust,
Speaker 2: like yeah, it wasn't just nothing, man, nigga. Them niggas
Speaker 2: would come down and fourth because who tank was popping
Speaker 2: them niggas If they come through the block, niggas was
Speaker 2: good for like four or five days. And so the
Speaker 2: way the block was is a one way street and
Speaker 2: that the end of the block is where everybody's selling dust.
Speaker 2: So me, God blessed that by man, Honey Combs honey
Speaker 2: six Uh. We always kept a little dust on us
Speaker 2: and be up the block saying, yeah, stop niggas because
Speaker 2: these niggas selling fucking gallon you know, dunch juice coming
Speaker 2: gallons and all that shit. All we need kept a
Speaker 2: couple of bundles because if we made two three hundred,
Speaker 2: that's fifteen sixteen years old, that's all you really need it,
Speaker 2: And that would be good enough us because them niggas
Speaker 2: would have kicked our ass if they knew we were
Speaker 2: clipping their customers like that. Yeah, So as far as that,
Speaker 2: that's that's how it was growing up on the West Side.
Speaker 2: On the East Side, it was like this this guy
Speaker 2: who always was talking about Yo Cam when you go
Speaker 2: to the NBA, I'm gonna be an agent. I'm about
Speaker 2: to start a rap label. Uh fuck with me. Uh.
Speaker 2: He was getting a lot, he was getting a lot
Speaker 2: of money hustling, and his name was Dame Dash, and
Speaker 2: niggas used to think he was crazy and ship because he's like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a record, I'm gonna be a sports age,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this, and he ended up doing all
Speaker 2: that shit, you know what I'm saying. So Dame Dash
Speaker 2: was like my right hand man. You know, Dame Dash
Speaker 2: is the one if anybody was really getting money in
Speaker 2: the street like that at Harlem, that I knew it
Speaker 2: was him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: How old were you when you came in to Dame
Speaker 3: Dash when I first met him, When you first met him,
Speaker 3: eleven twelve.
Speaker 2: And he was in the mix. He's in the mix,
Speaker 2: you know. Like you know, on the East Side, it's
Speaker 2: like I don't want to say projects, but like kind
Speaker 2: of like projects but as a community center there, so
Speaker 2: everybody used to go in there and play ball, talk shit,
Speaker 2: roll dice, swim. He used to throw a lot of parties.
Speaker 2: He had a lot of girls. The shit called the
Speaker 2: best out and him and his crew used to have
Speaker 2: girls all the time. He used to sneak in them
Speaker 2: shits and just be amazed at what the fuck they
Speaker 2: was doing. And you know, he had ended up getting
Speaker 2: with jay Z Partony and I remember we's like fifteen
Speaker 2: years old. He used to put us in cabs to
Speaker 2: jay Z's house and follow us. I was like, Damn,
Speaker 2: I grew up. I was like, the nigga ain't give
Speaker 2: a fuck about us, man, because we ain't asking no questions.
Speaker 2: You know, when you're fifteen, sixteen years old and he
Speaker 2: gives you six seven hundred dollars twice a week, nigga,
Speaker 2: that's two million dollars in ninth tenth grade. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So my man Duke, I introduced it
Speaker 2: to my man Duke. To god, dude, the guy how
Speaker 2: the driver's license at fifteen years old? In New York,
Speaker 2: you gotta be eighteen years old they get a driver's license.
Speaker 2: So fifteen years old with a driver's license is fucking amazing.
Speaker 2: So I plugged Duke in with him and Duke used
Speaker 2: to take mad stuff over the jay Z's house for
Speaker 2: Dame Dash and we used to get a couple of
Speaker 2: dollars out of it. So Day was like my man.
Speaker 2: And then when I got into a bad record deal,
Speaker 2: when I got an entertainment, me and him kind of
Speaker 2: fell out. So I went to him to apologize, and
Speaker 2: I was like, your dang because Rockefeller was at the
Speaker 2: top of the hell. I'm like, dang, man, we did
Speaker 2: all this ship for ya. I really need your help
Speaker 2: to get me out this record deal. And we wasn't
Speaker 2: even speaking the time he swept that shot of the
Speaker 2: rug helped me get out my deal. And I saw
Speaker 2: him the Rockefeller and I ain't really look back after that.
Speaker 3: Before we dive into music. You know, we gotta touch this.
Speaker 3: You say he was top of twenty five, hard breathing, like.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: I seen I seen him tell Mace he blew the
Speaker 3: game for us and all that, and and I didn't
Speaker 3: believe him until I shot and I saw the footage.
Speaker 2: I saw the push. He blew it. No I missed
Speaker 2: the shot. He wanted me to pass it. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you blew it.
Speaker 3: But he said, he said, you blew the game, but
Speaker 3: you said if you would have passed him, he wasn't
Speaker 3: gonna make it anyway.
Speaker 2: I had. I had nineteen points, you had two points.
Speaker 1: You gotta go on the marketing.
Speaker 2: I gotta get it. I'm cooking at the most points
Speaker 2: in the game, like makes my man, don't get it
Speaker 2: fucked up because because you know why, like this ship
Speaker 2: comes up like twice a month. I'm like, yo, you
Speaker 2: really you're in this type of time, but yo, my nigga.
Speaker 2: Look yeah, realizing he'll say he was Genobili, he did
Speaker 2: it for the sake of the team. But he a
Speaker 2: year older than me. He a junior on my sophomore
Speaker 2: when I was his junior year. My sophomore year, I started,
Speaker 2: and you come off the bench like.
Speaker 1: He was sacrificed for thee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, why am I starting over? Ya
Speaker 2: mean year younger than he talked about. Genobili did it
Speaker 2: for the sake of the team. So yeah, yeah, if
Speaker 2: I got Look, man, you know, if I got nineteen points,
Speaker 2: he got two points. They shooting free throws. We a
Speaker 2: massive square guard and that game is a massive square guarden.
Speaker 2: It's a real NBA court, So you all the way
Speaker 2: up the court. The niggas missed the free throw as
Speaker 2: soon as you get there. I got to be bad.
Speaker 2: I'm going I'm not running to play. I'm not looking.
Speaker 2: I'm looking. I'm dribbling, literally looking at the clock tick down.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, you ain't score game, bro, Man, we're
Speaker 2: gonna win or we're gonna lose. On my merit, I'll
Speaker 2: take that. But yeah, he's that comes up twice a
Speaker 2: fucking month still today, even when shit don't got done
Speaker 2: to do a basketball like we were doing the show
Speaker 2: cam you see passing me, we win, I'm like no,
Speaker 2: because he helped me. You know, we negotiated our deal
Speaker 2: for the show. He's part of negotiation and we got
Speaker 2: you know, the underdog took care of us. He's yeah,
Speaker 2: when you pass to me, we win. You see what
Speaker 2: may sleave me the fucking line on about the game
Speaker 2: already five, I should have passed the ball, bro, But
Speaker 2: Max was really good too. It's just it's really God orientated.
Speaker 2: And during that time, like you know, we're playing against
Speaker 2: stuff on Marlbury at the time. Felipe Lopez was there
Speaker 2: at the time.
Speaker 1: You know, it was speaking to cut you off, speak
Speaker 1: to Felipe because he had a lot of game and
Speaker 1: never really materialized. But he had a whole lot of game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, you know what it is. I'm being
Speaker 2: honest with you. First of all, we don't know how
Speaker 2: old Felipe is. He comes from Dominicans birth certificate. My
Speaker 2: man with the rice with s Felipe right there, that's
Speaker 2: as Yeah, yeah, you know, we really don't know how
Speaker 2: old Felipe Lopez is. Now, I tell you this much,
Speaker 2: New York, especially Manhattan has a big Dominican community, like
Speaker 2: talking about a bit Dominican community. Now, Felipe, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna say and say he wasn't good. I'd rather take
Speaker 2: stuff than Felipe if you asking me my personal question.
Speaker 2: But no, they was hyping ith. Yeah that Felipe's it's
Speaker 2: better and stuff. He's a year older as far as
Speaker 2: grade wise. But he was good. But it was the
Speaker 2: hype behind it. And that's why to me and the materialize
Speaker 2: it in the NBA because look, you go to the game.
Speaker 2: I'm not even exaggerating. I don't know if y'all ever
Speaker 2: been in the like Broadway in Amsterdam and New York
Speaker 2: probably Jack ad been everywhere. This all Dominicans Joe. So
Speaker 2: when you go to these games, they come with guitars,
Speaker 2: they come with being Joe's, they come with with xylophones.
Speaker 2: Facts are not Broo he went to He was the
Speaker 2: mascot at Rights, my man. That's a fact. Though these
Speaker 2: niggas come ye niggas like so when I'm talking about
Speaker 2: these niggas, the half the arena or whoever nigga's performing
Speaker 2: at was filled with Dominican people, which was great support
Speaker 2: because it wasn't like a Dominican basketball player at the
Speaker 2: time coming out of New York. So his hype was crazy.
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna say and say he wasn't good.
Speaker 2: He was good, but the hype behind it was it
Speaker 2: was a hype trade, like to keep it a buck.
Speaker 2: You know. It showed when he got the Saint John's yep.
Speaker 2: You know as soon as you get to see Yeah,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have been there all four years with the
Speaker 2: hype he had. You know what I'm saying, he should
Speaker 2: have been with Kevin Garnett, did yeah or not even
Speaker 2: going They wanted him. They talk about the Knicks taking
Speaker 2: him straight from Rice and nobody was really doing that
Speaker 2: at the time. KG kind of broke that code on
Speaker 2: sports illustrating high school all that. Exactly. That's a fact,
Speaker 2: you know. I'm telling you. I remember looking at the
Speaker 2: newspaper and they talk about the Knicks may give Felip Bank.
Speaker 2: Then when he got the Saint John's you just seen.
Speaker 2: Niggas wasn't with that, especially when you that nigga is
Speaker 2: supposed to be that nigga. Niggas can't wait to kill you, y'all.
Speaker 2: Niggas know like better than anybody. Like, oh, like I
Speaker 2: don't really know who y'all played against college or high school,
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure that it was a nigga that
Speaker 2: Jay's like, oh, that's y'all king back. Yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So that's kind of how
Speaker 2: it felt when it came to Felipe. I thought he
Speaker 2: was good, but if I had to pick, I would
Speaker 2: have picked stuff that was like a pure point guard.
Speaker 2: He had brothers that played before him. He was really good.
Speaker 2: Felipe was decent, but he was just taller and no disrespect.
Speaker 2: He had the Dominican culture with him. Yeah, exactly, that
Speaker 2: hype trading that whole joint. I must felipe as. When
Speaker 2: I played to I played him and stuff Marlburry and
Speaker 2: skipped them. My louse shot to Rafel Austin and my niggas.
Speaker 2: But when I played it was the same thing, like
Speaker 2: telling you like this, so y'all love and so your life.
Speaker 2: You know it's funding me and stuff Marlborough. One day
Speaker 2: was that nigga's funny. We was arguing on Instagram or Twitter,
Speaker 2: one of them since I said, Steph, every time I
Speaker 2: played you, I busted your ass. Bro every single time
Speaker 2: what he saying said every time I said matter, let
Speaker 2: me specify what I said. Let me be vert Beta.
Speaker 2: I said, stuff every time I played against your high
Speaker 2: school I bust your ass. He said, exactly, You're still
Speaker 2: a high school basketball. That sounds like something Pop was saying.
Speaker 3: I said, I said you one, hey, but I'm glad
Speaker 3: you said that. He is one of the most underrated
Speaker 3: NBA players of all time. The numbers he put up
Speaker 3: is no reason he shouldn't have been the first ballot
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: That's incredible crazy. All the times niggas get pineized for
Speaker 2: what they do off the corner and their career exactly.
Speaker 2: You know, y'all two guys are narrative. Yeah, y'all understanding.
Speaker 1: Uh, is it fair to say that each bar Barrol
Speaker 1: has a different kind of style of play. There's a
Speaker 1: difference between the Hoopers in Brooklyn to Harlem to the
Speaker 1: Bronx or basketballs basketball out there.
Speaker 2: You know, we was talking about that ship man. We
Speaker 2: was talking about none of them niggas to shoot. Yeah, yo, yah,
Speaker 2: you know you know what we was talking about that
Speaker 2: because since Kareem abdu Jabbar or Neuel Cinder, we don't
Speaker 2: got no superstars. We got all stars. We ain't got
Speaker 2: no superstar. We supposed to be the Mecca and ain't
Speaker 2: no superstars from New York. It's no superstar because me
Speaker 2: and me and Isaiah Thomas, the older Isaiah Thomas was
Speaker 2: talking about that Jordan's he was born in there, but
Speaker 2: he wasn't come on a nigga left when he I
Speaker 2: ain't counting nigga three years old. Yeah, yeah, you got
Speaker 2: to have him out right there. Yeah, he was born
Speaker 2: in then, why maybe crookly he ain't play man, but
Speaker 2: we have no.
Speaker 1: Superstar Mellow Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, so niggas was born and left
Speaker 2: and became superstars. We don't like, we don't got no fuckers.
Speaker 2: We got good all stars. You know, we got stuff.
Speaker 2: We got Skipp through Lou, we got Laa Stevenson. You know,
Speaker 2: we got a bunch of good players. But there's no superstars.
Speaker 2: But as far as Burrows are concerned, we had that
Speaker 2: talk the other day. Me and Mace was talking about
Speaker 2: that ship because like Queen's probably got the best, the
Speaker 2: best guards. I would say, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Or Brooklyn Harlem Niggas Buger Smith, Yeah he yo, We
Speaker 2: told yo, bro it's so I'm so mad. It's not
Speaker 2: footage or this nigga booger Yo, Like that's a nigga
Speaker 2: right there. The first nig I ever seen throw behind
Speaker 2: a nigga neck uh paus while he's playing this ship.
Speaker 2: That nigga. We didn't know who he was. It was
Speaker 2: just Christmas tournament they used to do in City College.
Speaker 2: And there's like right switches fully baying now against Western House,
Speaker 2: which the public schools back then in New York. If
Speaker 2: you didn't go to stuff on Marlbury broke that too,
Speaker 2: because he went to a public school. You used to
Speaker 2: have to go to Catholic school to be no to
Speaker 2: getting notoriety of people notice you and shit like that.
Speaker 2: So with stuff with the public school, people start paying
Speaker 2: attention to it. But before stuff went there, Booker Smith,
Speaker 2: like you said, he came and played against Rice and
Speaker 2: they're like, who's West House? We never heard of them?
Speaker 2: And he killed all them niggas. I never seen nigga
Speaker 2: shaking they and get an and one and then give
Speaker 2: him a kiss on the cheek on the way to
Speaker 2: shoot his free throat. So there's a wild disrespectful nigga
Speaker 2: right there. Man. So but I would give props, to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, if I had to the best
Speaker 2: basketball players, it's Brooklyn and Queens my personal opinion. Holler on,
Speaker 2: we got good players and we'll match up against anybody,
Speaker 2: but we too distracted when the game is over. It's
Speaker 2: too much going on. Niggas trying to sell drugs, Niggas
Speaker 2: trying to fuck with girls. They's trying to get gold chased,
Speaker 2: niggas standing up all night. Niggas is in the gambling spot.
Speaker 2: Niggas want a roof to fuck. But it's too much
Speaker 2: going on when the game is over, and it's no
Speaker 2: structure with niggas who want to help you get better
Speaker 2: when the game is over. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like Brooklyn, they had niggas who, Yo, come on, we're
Speaker 2: gonna go do drills. We're gonna go, we're gonna go practice,
Speaker 2: get up six the morning, We're gonna fucking you know,
Speaker 2: people had structures, Harlem, it's no structure. Niggas stay outside
Speaker 2: till it's like gray outside for real. Oh yo, you
Speaker 2: broke day year like that was a stack. Oh I
Speaker 2: broke day last night, like breaking day is staying out
Speaker 2: till the sun comes out. And I was like a
Speaker 2: stat Yeah, I broke day last night. So I wouldn't
Speaker 2: give the credit honestly. You know, if you asked me
Speaker 2: this ten years ago, I'm gonna say, Harlem, but Brooklyn
Speaker 2: and queens to me as the best basketball.
Speaker 1: Diving into music? What was that early grind? Like where
Speaker 1: it is you didn't take rap serious until Big al
Speaker 1: here convinced you to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you know, I was a bet like listen man,
Speaker 2: And I'm old enough to say, like, I was delusional
Speaker 2: to think I was going to the NBA. But that's
Speaker 2: what niggas be thinking when your heart's really in it.
Speaker 2: I didn't really understand basket ball until I stopped playing
Speaker 2: basketball because part of me, y'all realized, I'm playing basketball
Speaker 2: in late eighties, early nineties, so you not only know
Speaker 2: how to play basketball out not to fight like you know,
Speaker 2: it's not just you know, you're watching Anthony Mason, you
Speaker 2: watching Charles Barkley, you watching fucking Rick Mahorn and Bill there.
Speaker 2: But these thinkga's fighting too. It ain't like today, like
Speaker 2: you know, you punch a nigga with a two pieces
Speaker 2: of tech and you still in the game. So that's
Speaker 2: how it translated into high school and biddy's and midgets
Speaker 2: all that shit too. So I always stood I was
Speaker 2: going to the NBA. And as far as music concerned,
Speaker 2: I grew up around a bunch of rappers and we
Speaker 2: used to rap for hobby, same shit I'm telling you about.
Speaker 2: It wasn't no focus. We played basketball. Then you fucking
Speaker 2: go raple, you know what I'm saying. So it was
Speaker 2: just like a hobby at the time. And then Big
Speaker 2: La is the first person who got a record deal
Speaker 2: from my block. So back then it's not like you
Speaker 2: can easily get a record deal. So when he got
Speaker 2: the record there. We was like, oh, we could kind
Speaker 2: of take this shit seriously. And me and him used
Speaker 2: to just wrap It wasn't just him, it was him,
Speaker 2: her McGruff. We used to go to different parts of
Speaker 2: Harlem and battle niggas. G Depp used to be really good.
Speaker 2: Mace used to come to my black and rap. It
Speaker 2: was like a melting pot for rappers. But when the
Speaker 2: Big Al got the deal, it looked realistic, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We didn't really see Dougie Fresh or
Speaker 2: Rob Bas. The only person we saw before Big l
Speaker 2: that was visible who was really in the street driving
Speaker 2: around gold chains and then pvs and all that. When
Speaker 2: we was young with Fat Joe, the Bronx is like
Speaker 2: right there. So you would see Fat Joe, Fat Joe
Speaker 2: come through cars, MVPs, gold change, like, oh shit, Fat Joe.
Speaker 2: Like Fat Joe was on since he was young, even
Speaker 2: before he came a rapper. Like you know, people, as
Speaker 2: we get older, some of that shit phase out. But
Speaker 2: care fron on Fat Joe. Bro that nigga has fucking stores, money, jewelry,
Speaker 2: cars and he's around a good crew called d I
Speaker 2: TC at the time, and he was like, you know
Speaker 2: it was a lot of rappers, but it looked like
Speaker 2: he was to get Bunny Nigga in that crew. So
Speaker 2: he was the person that we used to see like,
Speaker 2: oh we see what we know. We ain't see ll
Speaker 2: Cooj all the Big Daddy Kane or all these other
Speaker 2: people that was coming out. I George the person we see.
Speaker 2: And when Big Al got the deal, we kind of
Speaker 2: took it more seriously.
Speaker 1: Speak on Children of the Corn group you had with
Speaker 1: Mace Bloodshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Children of the Corn with some shit Bigyu
Speaker 2: kind of was putting together. Yeah, it was kind of
Speaker 2: like some shit he's putting together because he see like
Speaker 2: he kind of seen the vision early, but he just
Speaker 2: had to fuck the record deal. So uh, it was me,
Speaker 2: Mace Bloodshed who passed away her McGruff, and Big Out
Speaker 2: with some other people too, and he had such a
Speaker 2: fuck the record deal that we kind of was started
Speaker 2: to surpassing him because Mace was getting hot and we
Speaker 2: kind of took the name and kept it for ourself.
Speaker 2: Beat made some Bloodshed and started doing mixtapes and just rapping.
Speaker 2: But you know, shit wasn't realistic to you sign that paper,
Speaker 2: you don't know what's realistic, And what's not realistic, So
Speaker 2: we just took the day and read with it. If
Speaker 2: you go on YouTube, all the old songs up there
Speaker 2: right now. My man Digger did a lot of tracks
Speaker 2: for them. Kidnamed Digga who was a producer from Harlem.
Speaker 2: He did a lot of tracks. We had went to
Speaker 2: school together, and all the songs on YouTube. But Tim
Speaker 2: Mace got that deal. That's when it became realistic. But
Speaker 2: Children of the Clone with some shit we were trying
Speaker 2: to put together that never kind of paned out, but
Speaker 2: Big Out kind of started that name his vision.
Speaker 1: One story one of your favorite stories, something that stuck
Speaker 1: out to you, funny crazy about Biggie.
Speaker 2: Biggie. I don't really know Biggie, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, Ma's got his record deal.
Speaker 2: He was on fire, how to state moving and I
Speaker 2: was going with the money were everywhere, so he was
Speaker 2: kind of set up and he didn't want me to
Speaker 2: go to bad Boy thank God, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So he Biggie at his own label and he took
Speaker 2: me the Biggie Small's house and Biggie Smalls his leg
Speaker 2: was broke from some car accident and some shit and
Speaker 2: I had went up in his bedroom pause he had
Speaker 2: two girls in the bed and I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: this real rapper shit like two bitches in the bed
Speaker 2: and no type of shit. So he was asking Base
Speaker 2: about this other rapper that we work with, and Mace
Speaker 2: was like, my man is better. So he put on
Speaker 2: beats and I just rapped for like forty minutes from
Speaker 2: him straight, and he was like, cut the beat off.
Speaker 2: What you want? So I'm like, I want two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand. I need a car, I need a house.
Speaker 2: Da da da dah. He's like, all right, bet, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna call my man Lance and get it. So we leaving.
Speaker 2: Mace's like, why would you say that he could get
Speaker 2: more than that? Don't have a town on what you want? Said,
Speaker 2: I don't fucking know me. Sin's Biggie man like, don't
Speaker 2: do that again. I'm like, all right, cool. But he
Speaker 2: ended up dying during that process. And when he was
Speaker 2: shooting they were shooting the rust in Peace video for
Speaker 2: Biggie and Harlem and his partner that he called named
Speaker 2: Liz Rivera was there at Jacob York and I'm like, y'all,
Speaker 2: I'm never got Biggie Ward to sign. They had just
Speaker 2: did a new deal with Sony and they was like,
Speaker 2: we'll give you the record deal because that's what Biggie
Speaker 2: War died. That's kind of how my shait kicked off. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I don't Yeah, that's only met him that one time.
Speaker 2: Is that the person that that's the same guy j
Speaker 2: had problems with? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a Lance RAVERA. Uh, what's
Speaker 3: your take us to the studio. Let's go to the
Speaker 3: studio with Cam. What's your must halves? I know Tree
Speaker 3: is a definitely must have in the studio. So you
Speaker 3: and you in the studio, you're about to make Welcome
Speaker 3: New York with jay Z and Jules. What's the must
Speaker 3: have you got you gotta have in the studio?
Speaker 2: That's a that's a that's a you know, that time
Speaker 2: was kind of different like me all right, Like so
Speaker 2: I'm real not cheap, but I'm financially cautious. I would
Speaker 2: say studio costs money. If you don't got your own studio,
Speaker 2: I tell anybody right at home.
Speaker 3: So we so I'm not I'm not as experienced as you,
Speaker 3: but you know, I'll do my little mix safe and
Speaker 3: ship I used to tell people that too. They want
Speaker 3: to come in the studio and catch a vibe and
Speaker 3: trying to not write that shit at home because when
Speaker 3: you're coming here, by time it take you to write
Speaker 3: that ship.
Speaker 2: We could have been did ten songs, right, so but
Speaker 2: during that time, it's kind of like a green light.
Speaker 2: We would catch a vibe and the suit because Wan
Speaker 2: who's writing on O G One, it was a studio's baseline,
Speaker 2: so it's kind of like a green light. As far
Speaker 2: as welcome to New York City, uh, we always had
Speaker 2: weed in there. I don't really drink until everything is done,
Speaker 2: but I catch a vibe smoking. But as far as
Speaker 2: the way the New York City Record went, uh, it
Speaker 2: was kind of tension with me and jay Z, not
Speaker 2: so know, fighting and no shit like that. It was
Speaker 2: kind of like the way I took it was. You know,
Speaker 2: when I got there, they already were situated and I
Speaker 2: was trying to be super nice with everybody, and I
Speaker 2: wasn't getting that real feedback. So I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 2: I just want to do my music. I came out
Speaker 2: a bad deal, I'm in a great situation. Let me
Speaker 2: just do what I gotta do and get the fuck
Speaker 2: out everybody's way, so good. Tell like, you gotta realize
Speaker 2: I was telling the name Dame had different distribution at
Speaker 2: the time. He had death Jam, which we al was
Speaker 2: on Elektra and somebody else. And I'm like, Dave, I
Speaker 2: don't want to go to death Jam. I want to
Speaker 2: go to Electra And he's like, Cam, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: better at death jail, saying I got this diplomattion I
Speaker 2: want to do. I think we shouldn't. He's like, trust me,
Speaker 2: it'll be cool because you gotta realize you got Brooklyn niggas,
Speaker 2: Philly niggas state property, and brook and Harlem niggas, not
Speaker 2: one nigga each place, twenty niggas from me. So now
Speaker 2: you got eighty personalities that you gotta juggle and you
Speaker 2: gotta deal with. And when I got there, I already
Speaker 2: been the fucked up deal. See that's the one thing
Speaker 2: about it is I'm happy I was in the fucked
Speaker 2: up deal. So now I know the business to where
Speaker 2: those guys I'm not saying they didn't know the business,
Speaker 2: but they being well taken care of, so they may
Speaker 2: not need to know where the record is not spending
Speaker 2: Hawaii Why is not spending in Austin, Texas? Why is
Speaker 2: not spending in Seattle? I already had that knowledge from
Speaker 2: getting jerked around. They didn't know that. So when I
Speaker 2: got to death Jim Rockefeller, I became a monster. Yo.
Speaker 2: You need to do radio. Yo. Why this ain't playing?
Speaker 2: Why this ain't going on? This your move? This is
Speaker 2: a closet down, this is an office. So Nigga's like,
Speaker 2: why can't moving away on a business like that? Because
Speaker 2: they kind of been taken care of already. I've been
Speaker 2: jerked around, so I know who to talk to. And
Speaker 2: I didn't think they liked that too much. And because
Speaker 2: it wasn't just Rockefeller, no respective Day more Jay z
Speaker 2: or Biggs and none that because they were the label.
Speaker 2: But I started going over, not saying over they had
Speaker 2: cool Rockefeller doing this. Now I'm going upstairs to death jail,
Speaker 2: Kevin Lyles, Leo Cohen, Julie Greenwalt Kaiser, I Rockefellas. But
Speaker 2: now I need the big homies to push the button.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's the parent Well, they
Speaker 2: joint venture, but I considered them the parent company even
Speaker 2: though it's a joint venture deal. And I started leaning
Speaker 2: on them niggas you push the button, pushed the butt.
Speaker 2: I had niggas sitting in their office every day, like yo,
Speaker 2: go sitting Kaiser's office to Kaiser's a guy who did radio.
Speaker 2: That's my man. Two shot the Kaiser, that's my nigga.
Speaker 2: But he got so tired of us sending his motherfucking
Speaker 2: office every day, eating his lunch and everything. Now when
Speaker 2: we did Old Boy, but time that shit shit uh
Speaker 2: maxed out. We was at that particular time before Kanye.
Speaker 2: It was the number one radio record in death Jam
Speaker 2: history because my man Zeke said and that shit every
Speaker 2: day and just annoyed that nigga until he's like, okay, Cam,
Speaker 2: you got fucking seventy thousand spins and be like all right, cool,
Speaker 2: We'll leave you alone now. But you know that was
Speaker 2: a big deal considering like death Jam history. You know
Speaker 2: you got llll who J Republic Enemy, and jay Z
Speaker 2: everybody else so far as New York City concerned. Back
Speaker 2: to the original question, Sorry, jay Z got to talk
Speaker 2: with me. He's like, Yo, it's tension. We cool, ya
Speaker 2: ya YadA. So we broke the tension. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: it's it's a beating the studio. Let's go now, and
Speaker 2: he's like, bet and we went in there, so y'all
Speaker 2: was together. I walk into night break, those scenario down.
Speaker 2: I walk in the studio. Now, it's kind of like
Speaker 2: it's already. I know it's tension already, so I'm just
Speaker 2: what's up and keep it moving. I go in the studio.
Speaker 2: He comes like, I talked to you, so I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's up. He's like, ya, it seemed like it's a
Speaker 2: little tension. I just want to say, yo, y'all doing
Speaker 2: y'all thing. We don't need to have tension here. I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's what I've been trying to tell niggas this old time.
Speaker 2: But I don't even know what the fuck this shit
Speaker 2: is about. He's like, nah, yeah, we're all good. We
Speaker 2: ain't got no problem. So I'm I'm taking advantage of opportunity.
Speaker 2: We good, well come in, come in, like, let's do
Speaker 2: this right now. He like, bet, So we going there
Speaker 2: and nigga listen to the beat for like five minutes
Speaker 2: and did a verse. I'm like, who is this nigga?
Speaker 2: Like cause you know, like you you know how we
Speaker 2: were just talking about writing at home because I didn't
Speaker 2: write nothing at home neither that day. But I just
Speaker 2: come in to vibe and you know how you like
Speaker 2: like writing at home. But he ain't here to beat,
Speaker 2: he ain't cheat, and it ain't like he had some
Speaker 2: balls at home. That nig you listen to be for
Speaker 2: five minutes and went in there and did it two minutes.
Speaker 2: And it's no way you could it because my name
Speaker 2: is in the verse and like I'm saying my name
Speaker 2: and the ship and all type of shit, So I
Speaker 2: don't I'm not a good freestyler. He did that sho
Speaker 2: off the top of his head. I'm a good writer.
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there like this, just writing my ship
Speaker 2: so I could be fast too. And that's how the
Speaker 2: song came about. That's just how it went. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a classic last one am hey Ma? Remember so hey Ma?
Speaker 2: Like oh boy was rocking first, hey Ma, wasn't really
Speaker 2: catching on an urban radio. So I don't know, like
Speaker 2: every city got like these pop stations in New York
Speaker 2: is Z one hundred, you know when they play country
Speaker 2: music and you know the pop songs. Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: Britney Spears at the time and all if shit. It
Speaker 2: wasn't working with black radio. Hey I wasn't working with
Speaker 2: black radio. So my man's back to Kaiser. We like, Yo, Kaiser,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be in here again until Kai I said,
Speaker 2: we did everything we could do for this record, Cam
Speaker 2: leave me the fuck alone. Like you guys have Zeke
Speaker 2: sitting here for two three years. The black fucking stations
Speaker 2: is not fucking with this record. It's just not he said.
Speaker 2: But strangely enough, the all turned the pop stations is.
Speaker 2: So it's like the pop stations is He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: Ken Lane runs a pop station. I said, where's Ken
Speaker 2: Lane office? That right there? I see you, lad, yo Zeke,
Speaker 2: this the new mission. So now Zeke is sitting in
Speaker 2: this nigga name Ken Lane's office, like ya, get us
Speaker 2: on all the pop stations and so now we're on
Speaker 2: all the pops. So we found out as a Lino
Speaker 2: Richie sample. So that's why the ship ain't no Riching
Speaker 2: two times.
Speaker 1: You didn't even realize the crossover at the time that
Speaker 1: you're just making, you know.
Speaker 2: So now we're on all the pop stations across America
Speaker 2: because of Ken Lane, and now the urban stations is
Speaker 2: paying attach. It was like a backwards process. All the
Speaker 2: pop stations and now the urban states say, matter the
Speaker 2: fuck they get one of our niggas over there, bring
Speaker 2: them back home. So that's how I Hate Mon kind
Speaker 2: of worked out. It was like a reverse situation, but
Speaker 2: that's how that went.
Speaker 3: Any he worked with a lot of great producers. An
Speaker 3: who's your favorite to work with? Do you have one?
Speaker 3: They all bring something different?
Speaker 2: Yeah, favorite, Damn, trying to think who's the favorite. Heat
Speaker 2: Makers is my favorite. It's out of heat Makers and
Speaker 2: just Blaze. You know what I'm saying, Like, he Makers
Speaker 2: is my niggas, like they gave it. They they helped
Speaker 2: create a diplomat sound, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 2: my man Digga did that in the beginning, but he
Speaker 2: he made he Makers made like that diplomat sound. And
Speaker 2: Juge Blade had a lot of good, good records, so
Speaker 2: what we had on Rockefeller as well. But my favorite,
Speaker 2: I'll definitely have to say.
Speaker 3: He made eighteen year anniversary of Purple Haze this year,
Speaker 3: nineteen excuse of nineteen and it. What's your favorite songs
Speaker 3: out the project? Congratulations by the way, thank you man,
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. That's probably my favorite album.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a dope time you know for
Speaker 2: me because so, like I was telling y'all niggas like,
Speaker 2: so I was, I was like in a fucked up deal,
Speaker 2: Like I had two gold albums and didn't really have
Speaker 2: that much money. So I kind of took the money
Speaker 2: I had and bought drugs and went to the Ohio
Speaker 2: with the shit. So the whole I lived in Columbus,
Speaker 2: Ohio for like five years. Man, Like I used to
Speaker 2: go the Lebron games when he was in high school.
Speaker 2: That's I know Rich and Maverick and I know them
Speaker 2: there in school and they know me too, from when
Speaker 2: I was living in Columbus and I got Rich out there. Man.
Speaker 2: You know, it's fucking so all that music was during Yeah,
Speaker 2: all that music was kind of like I'm getting the
Speaker 2: money I feel I deserved to get because the music
Speaker 2: business wasn't giving me the money I deserved. It wasn't
Speaker 2: because I was in a transition to leaving before Purple
Speaker 2: Hayes leaving Sony going to Rockefeller. So I went Platinum
Speaker 2: on Come Home with Me, and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: trust this man. I saw getting music money, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't trust this shit. I'm just gonna keep Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is definite, you know what I'm saying. So that
Speaker 2: whole Purple Hayes album, I kind of was like getting
Speaker 2: wrapped money and street money at the same time. So
Speaker 2: it was just a great, great time and I was
Speaker 2: in a great space financially mentally. Everything was really good.
Speaker 2: So I had a real good time making that album.
Speaker 2: A favorite song I don't really know, because I think
Speaker 2: the whole album was really really dope. I felt I
Speaker 2: recorded a lot of Chicago because I was going back
Speaker 2: and forth from Chicago to Ohio, back and forth doing
Speaker 2: my thing and Twister. It was a lot of people
Speaker 2: that fucking was a part of that album. But I
Speaker 2: don't have a favorite song. I just think the album
Speaker 2: is open. Thank you guys for no knowledge that project.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe Jimmy said that the was supposed to be
Speaker 3: for you, and there was and then return he felt
Speaker 3: bad about it, so he gave it the down and
Speaker 3: our beat, which is to me, was harder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was way harder. It ain't go like that,
Speaker 2: But yeah, he might have forgot because he was there.
Speaker 2: He was definitely there for the whole process. He was definitely,
Speaker 2: he was definitely there the whole process. What happened was
Speaker 2: Kanye came to the studio, know Kanye trying to come
Speaker 2: up and ship, and so he played He played the
Speaker 2: B for me, pardon me this one. I still was
Speaker 2: on Sony though, and I'm like, I want that beat.
Speaker 2: He like bet and heard that show on the radio
Speaker 2: like two weeks later. I'm like, so, I'm gonna kill
Speaker 2: this nigga when I see this nigger deal. Why would
Speaker 2: he do that? Because that was that beat was hard?
Speaker 2: It was. I actually did that song over to Tupac beat.
Speaker 2: That song. I did a song called leave Me Alone
Speaker 2: let Me Live My Life, and I wrote that to
Speaker 2: the age to the Iszo beat, leave Me Alone, let
Speaker 2: Me Just Live my Life. I wrote that song to
Speaker 2: the age to the Iszo beat, but I ended up
Speaker 2: putting it on a song I did over Tupac's beat,
Speaker 2: Ambitions of a Rider. But when I got the Rockefeller, No,
Speaker 2: he was over there, so I can't really start no
Speaker 2: trouble with him, Like that's so fucked up. Ship. I
Speaker 2: let him know. So he gave me a beat CD
Speaker 2: and as far as down and I was concerned. He
Speaker 2: bro I got that's one of my favorite songs. No,
Speaker 2: no mine too. Now I appreciate it, but as far
Speaker 2: as a concern, he didn't give me that as a replacement.
Speaker 2: I didn't gave me a Beat CD like seventy beats
Speaker 2: on it and you found out one was like number
Speaker 2: forty eight. I fished that shit out off for DCD.
Speaker 2: I like, like, because you gotta realize your ears go
Speaker 2: crazy after a wilder, so you don't like beat forty
Speaker 2: nine be less they down now. It was like beat
Speaker 2: forty nine like this one sound like that, you gott
Speaker 2: gonna be fifty one ff. Then you're like, I think
Speaker 2: twenty three, thirty seven and forty nine was like like yo,
Speaker 2: even now talk to you. Send me six 'y five
Speaker 2: at a time, don't send me no thirty five beats
Speaker 2: at one time. Just just too much to consume at
Speaker 2: one time, post or taking your break not consumed. But
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, I had to fish that shit
Speaker 2: out for seventy beat CD, but it ended up turning
Speaker 2: out good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kanye, want somebody bring up his name to you?
Speaker 3: What's what's your first thoughts?
Speaker 2: Kanye? He played crazy with who? You want to play
Speaker 2: crazy with me? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that make crazy when it's convenient.
Speaker 3: Yeah the fact, Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: I agree with your whole hearted on that. When I think, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: exactly official. Every time I see Kanye. I've seen Kanye
Speaker 2: about about a year and a half, two years, about
Speaker 2: a year and alfgo Nigga was saying, as a motherfucker
Speaker 2: camera or something, you need some beats. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, cool man. It's like, yo, I might work
Speaker 2: around fun with you. You're going to tell you go
Speaker 2: telling you boboson like talking about beats. I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker 2: Two days later and they're going crazy on the news
Speaker 2: and on tape or shit. Every time, he's perfectly fun, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and he'd be saying some nice he be saying some
Speaker 2: true ship sometimes too. Yeah. I mean I've never seen
Speaker 2: a crazy Kanye personally ever.
Speaker 1: Diplomats early days, how'd that come about? Like you said
Speaker 1: you had mentioned it early on? What was the objective
Speaker 1: with that group?
Speaker 2: Just you know, kind of like after Mason left the
Speaker 2: music business and I was trying to put the team
Speaker 2: together that big out didn't put together, and I but Diplomats,
Speaker 2: I ain't do shit then nobody else saying to do.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you. I watched No Limit do
Speaker 2: what No Limit did. Then I watched cash Money do
Speaker 2: what cash Money did. Then I watched rough Riders do
Speaker 2: what rough Riders did. I watched Rockefeller do a Rockefeller
Speaker 2: did murder, even murder inc to a extent. And I
Speaker 2: like niggas like movements because when you got a movement,
Speaker 2: you can argue within the movement if it's all about
Speaker 2: the same shit. Like you know, niggas will be like, Yo,
Speaker 2: I like juviie better than Lil Wayne. Y'all like Lil
Speaker 2: Wayne better than this person. Yo, many fresh as the real,
Speaker 2: but you're still arguing about the same niggas. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's all in the same movement, you know.
Speaker 2: And I always thought about that because I was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: it could be somebody be like I don't fuck with Kim,
Speaker 2: but I fuck with Jim, or I don't fuck with Jim,
Speaker 2: but I fuck with Juels, or I don't fuck with Jewels,
Speaker 2: I fuck with hell out whoever we had around the time.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, as long as the argument period is
Speaker 2: within the circle us they listening and saw the same circle.
Speaker 2: So I used to, you know, niggas used to have
Speaker 2: no Limit fights on my block, like as much as
Speaker 2: they dumb nigga niggas was in New York where Camouflage
Speaker 2: Type and Master P had niggas going crazy. Nigga niggas
Speaker 2: that niggas going crazy. Mister serve On, mister Kola got
Speaker 2: down with them. Nigga Shaq was in the video. Nigga
Speaker 2: talked about P got four hundred million, niggas is going
Speaker 2: around by fake tank chains on tape and shit. Master
Speaker 2: P had that shit in a frenzy. And I used
Speaker 2: to sit there and observe niggas on my block argue
Speaker 2: but even before cast money argue about all the artists
Speaker 2: and no limit and then Master P, if you look,
Speaker 2: you know it wasn't no Internet and that that shit.
Speaker 2: But seemed like he had seventeen artists come out every week,
Speaker 2: Like you miss these niggas.
Speaker 3: Man, that's crazy to hear from a New York nigga
Speaker 3: and we from the South, we see it in real time.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Yeah, you know what I'm saying, so Yo,
Speaker 2: that shit was just amazing to see how many artists
Speaker 2: this nigga kept just putting out, Like I told you,
Speaker 2: like I remember clearly, niggas was talking about you know,
Speaker 2: Soaked the Shaka and he's the best nigga and my
Speaker 2: men want to fight because nobody knew who missed the
Speaker 2: servo on was and the niggas was like, yo, y'all
Speaker 2: niggas trip y your niggas don't know mister serve on y'all
Speaker 2: violating the whole no limit. And I used to I
Speaker 2: used to observe these arguments like, Yo, niggas is really
Speaker 2: going crazy about niggas who's in the same click. So
Speaker 2: I kind of took all that format to try and
Speaker 2: make the diplomat brand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, double disc diplomatic community quickly went gold. What was
Speaker 1: it like when you guys dropped that project?
Speaker 2: It was dope because I got to put my niggas
Speaker 2: on you know what I'm saying, Like for me, I'm
Speaker 2: not one of them niggas that that UH want or
Speaker 2: the shine on the accolades, Like I could have did
Speaker 2: all these singles by myself, told about old boy, pardon me,
Speaker 2: hey ma, now put you Wells on the ship. Now
Speaker 2: let Zeke sing the hook. Yo, Jim, you direct the video.
Speaker 2: Jim direct. I forced Jim to direct the video. I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 2: why is your Nick because you know, back in the days,
Speaker 2: your name used to be at the bottom, but he
Speaker 2: used he was learning how to direct. I used to
Speaker 2: be mad that he shared to direct this credit name
Speaker 2: with somebody else, because I wanted everybody name to be
Speaker 2: on the screen. Now, that's the one thing I didn't
Speaker 2: like about master I'm saying about master P about what
Speaker 2: I was seeing. You know, he had a movie called
Speaker 2: I Got the Hook Up, Nah about it before I
Speaker 2: got to Grivey Ship. You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 2: when you look at the credits, officer friendly, everything is
Speaker 2: master P, everything, producer, director, acting, this person, that person.
Speaker 2: The first ninety two ships is master Light aigg.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, this nigga want a credit for everything.
Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, just fake. Somebody else did some other shit.
Speaker 2: So when I watched about it, I'm like, uh, that's
Speaker 2: if you did everything. I ain't knocking it, but it'd
Speaker 2: be cool to have some other names up there and shit.
Speaker 2: So I always wanted other people to shine besides myself.
Speaker 2: And that's how I looked at the diplomatic situation.
Speaker 1: Uh New York in the nineties, late eighties, early nineties,
Speaker 1: a lot of different movement styles of music from Wu Tang, obviously, Rockefeller,
Speaker 1: Bad Boy, Locks, Terror Squad to name a few. Uh,
Speaker 1: everyone unique in their own way. What was music like
Speaker 1: for you back during that time.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like the you know music, you know,
Speaker 2: it was like the soundtrack for basketball. Really, like I said,
Speaker 2: music was like a real hobby my nigga. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I really in my brain thought I was going to NBA.
Speaker 2: You gotta the only reason in our brain we ain't
Speaker 2: even go overseas is because May's got deal when he
Speaker 2: was nineteen twenty and got two million dollars and we
Speaker 2: ain't risking it to go back to go back to school.
Speaker 2: So it was just like a soundtrack as far as
Speaker 2: high school, just in the back and you know, background
Speaker 2: for our basketball careers. We started doing it professionally. It's
Speaker 2: competition if once you in the game. You know, still
Speaker 2: to this day, you know, I'll be seeing niggas in
Speaker 2: New York post all type of niggas, but me, I
Speaker 2: won't post on you. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying because it would be like you be
Speaker 2: seeing niggas that you know, post niggas from somewhere else
Speaker 2: to post somewhere else, and I'd be like, if I
Speaker 2: got a project come out, they won't post it. But
Speaker 2: if that's what we do, I fine, I'll go post
Speaker 2: a nigga from no Braska to that nigga, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So, but it's New York is you know,
Speaker 2: it's really a lot of competition and everything no matter
Speaker 2: what you do. But as far as music concerned, that's
Speaker 2: a in the beginning is a back out for basketball.
Speaker 2: When I started playing basketballs it was just trying to
Speaker 2: be the best rap I could be, make the best
Speaker 2: songs I could make, and track you might above water
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of a lot of rappers and
Speaker 2: a lot of groups from New York. Acting.
Speaker 3: Payton for Dame kind of inspired me to start my
Speaker 3: acting career as well. Was he big and you starting
Speaker 3: to act? And how did you get that role?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like so everybody knows, like if you're from New York,
Speaker 2: you know that story, especially from Harlem. It's a Harlem story,
Speaker 2: so you know the story. And you killed that shit,
Speaker 2: by the way, thank you man, I appreciate it. I
Speaker 2: appreciate that. And so everybody's going for auditions. It's hilarious
Speaker 2: because I just see some auditions that Nas did on
Speaker 2: instagram a the other day, and dude, what's my nigga name? Damn,
Speaker 2: I can't think of another name. Who was who was
Speaker 2: trying to go for Aces part? I'm so mad. He's
Speaker 2: a rapper man. Nigga's nice too. I'm pissed off. I
Speaker 2: can't think of a nigga name because he's dope. He's dope.
Speaker 2: Act Most Death. Most Death was auditioning for Aces role.
Speaker 2: I just seen their audition tape. I wish I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell I gotta find more audition tape whoever has that?
Speaker 2: But everybody was auditioned for it. I knew the role.
Speaker 2: I mean I knew the character because everybody outside the
Speaker 2: movie I'm from home, everybody knows the story. And when
Speaker 2: Dame gave me opportunity to come audition, and when our audition.
Speaker 1: It should seemed too natural because I knew it.
Speaker 2: But it was funny because I bought a real you know,
Speaker 2: me and Jim's in the house practicing lines, and I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: I bring the real gun because it's a part. You
Speaker 2: gotta put a gun out on the Jim. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: do that. So yeah, that wor the mother. So I
Speaker 2: go down there do doings. You know, we ain't doing
Speaker 2: no audition. You're reading with somebody that there's three people
Speaker 2: behind the desk and they have the cameras on something
Speaker 2: doing it and a maga, now shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2: Nigga say hey, hey, everybody, calm to fuck that. What's
Speaker 2: going on. I'm like, I need this part, my nigga,
Speaker 2: And Dame said, relax, care, you have to relax. I said,
Speaker 2: I ain't loaded the clips over here. I ain't gonna
Speaker 2: shoot nobody. He said, Yo, I think I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: you the part after that. So right, So yeah, I
Speaker 2: ended up doing the movie. Charles Stone directed the movie.
Speaker 2: So we shot eighty percent of that movie shot in Canada.
Speaker 2: So when we're shooting the movie, Dame is not really
Speaker 2: there on set a lot, and the clothing people had
Speaker 2: to ship. They going off fan magazines and all these
Speaker 2: magazines where they may have seen people go out for
Speaker 2: a night when shit for a night, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: they're not wearing metallic blue pants selling drugs. So you
Speaker 2: got a Canadian female who's doing wardrobe arguing me like,
Speaker 2: look this is what he had on the magazine. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I say, yo, this looked like they went to a
Speaker 2: dress up party. They're not selling cocaine in these joints
Speaker 2: right here. And Dame came Dame came back. I would
Speaker 2: call him and say, Yo, this shit gonna be fucked up.
Speaker 2: He came back, he was up to start firing everybody
Speaker 2: and brought mad air one Nikes and Timberlands and got
Speaker 2: it right. So at this time, this is kind of
Speaker 2: during the process of when I'm not really doing well
Speaker 2: and leaving, leaving Epic and going to a Rockefeller. So
Speaker 2: I'm still in the street every day at Harlem, every
Speaker 2: single day, and I was like, if I don't get
Speaker 2: this part right, it's gonna be fucked up. So they
Speaker 2: had lines that you supposed to read and then outside
Speaker 2: the lines. To director Charles Stone was like, care, say
Speaker 2: what you would say in real life if this was
Speaker 2: the situation. So I would say seventy five days. Pep
Speaker 2: for saying that movie the dialogue is improv because the
Speaker 2: lines was mad corny. I mean like I would be
Speaker 2: reading and I would read it. I would do my
Speaker 2: job and say, yeah, I don't think they would really
Speaker 2: say that. Challs, He's like no, what's do another take?
Speaker 2: Say what you would say, like all that current the
Speaker 2: front that wasn't in the script. That shit was not
Speaker 2: in the script. None of that shit, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, give me extra water, all that shit. None
Speaker 2: of that shit was in the script. It was shit
Speaker 2: that I would say, I can't do this movie and
Speaker 2: go back home because niggas will kill me if I
Speaker 2: don't get that shit right. So that's how I took
Speaker 2: the movie. We had him on the show how Good
Speaker 2: was working with Wood, Harris oh Man, them niggas was
Speaker 2: Dope Man Boy and Maca. Because I've never done a
Speaker 2: movie before. That was my first time ever doing a movie,
Speaker 2: so they gave me a lot of insight. A lot
Speaker 2: of guys like even even Maca and Wood, they said,
Speaker 2: because we got a lot of freedom. Miki's from Harlem
Speaker 2: to was obviously did a lot of Earth movies. So
Speaker 2: when we're doing this shit, Macai was giving his two sets.
Speaker 2: You know there's a part where he choked out the
Speaker 2: uncle in the hall way. Yeah, but it didn't go
Speaker 2: like that in the movie. He just supposed to go
Speaker 2: and that be kind of like this shit, corny, I'm
Speaker 2: ana choke Homeboy out drag him out the whole year.
Speaker 2: So when he was doing that, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that look realistic and witness pockets, Yeah yeah, yeah. So
Speaker 2: when he did it, I was like, Noah, that's the
Speaker 2: way it's supposed to be done. So Macay came and
Speaker 2: he said, this has never happened again, Cam and no movies.
Speaker 2: They don't let us get this much freedom and all
Speaker 2: that shit. And I'm like, what that's fucked up. So
Speaker 2: that's why I do it my own movies. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 2: I can't be listening to the niggas like if it don't
Speaker 2: seem realistic or yeah, I don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of movies I've done like three
Speaker 2: four movies, like right now, I was telling my niggas,
Speaker 2: I want to do a movie kind of like and
Speaker 2: coming to America when Eddie Murphy was like the white
Speaker 2: Nigga and the barber shop, Like you ain't know what
Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy told was over like not white girls because
Speaker 2: you knew that I was Marlon Wayne. Another nagme I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. I don't even want you to know it's
Speaker 2: me because everybody like Cam, you're not really acting you're
Speaker 2: just acting like cam you keep getting away from.
Speaker 1: Yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, yo, I don't get no acting credit, man, I.
Speaker 3: Gotta give your credit because but that that says something
Speaker 3: about your your acting where you can be you and
Speaker 3: a lot of the best actors they act the same
Speaker 3: way in all the movies.
Speaker 1: But that sounds right, the same way and all that time.
Speaker 2: Don't get a fun Malcolm X, I can go dodge.
Speaker 2: But this is my nigga everywhere, and when it tells
Speaker 2: up movies, it's not. It's my nigga every other movie.
Speaker 2: Man ship, that's what's up.
Speaker 1: Uh. Backstory with the pink fur coat, the famous maybe
Speaker 1: very famous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this nigga get you can't. You gotta remove from sef.
Speaker 1: Yeah, crunching on chips and gotta remove bear.
Speaker 2: Roussie Wallace is Joint's tough boy. Just talking about them,
Speaker 2: Pat love of Joints. He threw me off with pig coat. Yo.
Speaker 2: So we used to go to fashion Week and and
Speaker 2: you know everybody do that ship now, the met galland
Speaker 2: on all types of Dame was in that ship for years,
Speaker 2: going to all that ship fashion for years and years
Speaker 2: and years. And I knew that I was trying to
Speaker 2: do something to stand out, and I'm like, back then,
Speaker 2: like I said, it wasn't no inter andnet and that
Speaker 2: that's it. Dame big Thing was like, we gotta make
Speaker 2: pay six. If you made pay six in the post,
Speaker 2: that means you was there with Leonard DiCaprio, Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: whoever ordered most famous people made paid six of the post.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what the fuck am I gonna do
Speaker 2: to make paye six? So halloming they at the store
Speaker 2: called Halem Signature that or the fly shipping there, and
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, this is it. I seen that ship.
Speaker 2: They have to have been at the pink motherfucking flip phone. Uh.
Speaker 2: I say, yeah, I'm making pay six tomorrow, nigga. And
Speaker 2: that's that's that's really the more the story, and that
Speaker 2: shit kind of took a life of his own, and
Speaker 2: you know, people be like, yo, can't bring the pink coat.
Speaker 2: Bring the pink coat. Like it's like I'd be on
Speaker 2: some asshole time poor. It's like they wanted me to
Speaker 2: bring the pink coat. They want me to bring the
Speaker 2: pink coat somewhere like three years ago, like yo, we'll
Speaker 2: pay you to bring the pink coat. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, it need car service though I have my
Speaker 2: own call, so I said, but didn't need costs. So
Speaker 2: I started doing wild ship because Niggas is so infatuated
Speaker 2: with the pig. I'll make that you have his own
Speaker 2: car service. Somebody pick it out. Think you still got it.
Speaker 2: I got one of them, but I don't have the
Speaker 2: main one. I just just just got, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say yeah, I let the person talk
Speaker 2: about it, but I just just uh got ready the
Speaker 2: main one. I always had a backup, but the main
Speaker 2: main one is going. I still got the stunt double.
Speaker 3: That's one of the that's one of the keeping rappers.
Speaker 3: Rappers are a lot of rappers and use that style
Speaker 3: for video. And on Halloween, right, no, every kids, everybody
Speaker 3: dressed like Halloween.
Speaker 2: Babies on the I get tacked it on tight now
Speaker 2: I get tagged it on type of shit every single Halloween.
Speaker 2: About that pink coat, like they got a little baby
Speaker 2: wrapped in cotton candy. I think the ship was trying
Speaker 2: to look like the pink coats and all that shit
Speaker 2: look like Katton candy to me. I don't know what
Speaker 2: the ship was.
Speaker 1: Recently, there's been some back and forth uh, not necessarily
Speaker 1: them less a forward ship, but the ship with Joe.
Speaker 1: You posted something this morning? What's going on with that current?
Speaker 1: Where are we at with that? Posted it this morning?
Speaker 1: Like basically we can talk about I don't give a fuck,
Speaker 1: Like you know what happened is this man? Like you know,
Speaker 1: me and Mace on our show we talked sports, but
Speaker 1: we catch up on old time sometime, and we was
Speaker 1: talking about being in the Whole House in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2: I was sixteen and seventeen. They talked, I don't know
Speaker 2: how our story gets on their show. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: So they talk about us being in the Whole House
Speaker 2: and then she just jumps out the window and says,
Speaker 2: what if it was under age girls in there? Niggas?
Speaker 2: Was like, Yo, my nigga, this is really not the time.
Speaker 2: You're not from this country. Secondly, we wasn't of age.
Speaker 2: We shouldn't have been in there anyway. So I kind
Speaker 2: of left it alone and was like, Yo, I ain't
Speaker 2: even pay no mind, because only niggas who get rattled
Speaker 2: got is niggas who got some truth behind that shit guilty.
Speaker 2: So I didn't even pay the shit no mind. When
Speaker 2: I paid their mind was because I was like, I
Speaker 2: get to the bitch when I get to the bitch.
Speaker 2: But she tried to apologize, so I was like, nah, jobs,
Speaker 2: because now if I want to wait two weeks or
Speaker 2: a month or whenever, niggas are like, oh can why
Speaker 2: you bringing that up? She apologized, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I said, fuck you and your apology, because I
Speaker 2: don't want your apology. That shit is like the lowest
Speaker 2: or the lower shit you're gonna accuse somebody.
Speaker 1: Use right now?
Speaker 2: Yes, but even if it ain't right now, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm not no pediphlet like.
Speaker 3: You don't have to be guilty of that for that
Speaker 3: shit to affect your life, right exactly, just insinuated exactly.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But I'm just telling you
Speaker 2: my morals as cameraon. I don't like that shit, bro,
Speaker 2: Like we had a whole shit. Actually it was a
Speaker 2: whole shit and we couldn't do it. And Charlemagne, the
Speaker 2: guy he talks about a lot, me and my man
Speaker 2: was about to do to catch the Predator show about
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen years ago. I remember, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: know if y'all remember when that show though, Yeah, we
Speaker 2: were doing the black version of that shit. Catch niggas
Speaker 2: trying to get with kids and all that shit, but
Speaker 2: there's like killing your niggas, gonna get locked up, y'all
Speaker 2: don't have to permit, and all that other shit to
Speaker 2: be doing to beat niggas up and all that other shit.
Speaker 2: So I get offended by that ship, but like you're like,
Speaker 2: you're saying you don't in people's eyes, one person, one
Speaker 2: person says, oh you do it, you did it, Oh
Speaker 2: they did it. Yeah. So the whole thing is when
Speaker 2: she realized how reckless it was, she apologized. I'm like, nah,
Speaker 2: fuck your apology. Fuck you. You can't just go around
Speaker 2: say what you want and then be like yo, I
Speaker 2: was bugging for saying that. It didn't bother me in
Speaker 2: the beginning because I was like, I ain't even tripping
Speaker 2: off that ship. But it got me more mad about
Speaker 2: the apology. So another nigga named Queed Flipp, who was
Speaker 2: on his show I helped out, used to give him advice.
Speaker 2: I wasn't even a podcast space give him advice. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 2: if you're doing almost like television, get some ad dollars
Speaker 2: or sponsorship. And I was teaching him how to do that,
Speaker 2: and I wasn't even in a podcast space. He's on
Speaker 2: this show and he had said some slick shit yesterday
Speaker 2: or the day before. Let me change that he did say. No,
Speaker 2: I thought he said some slick shit. What he said
Speaker 2: was why nobody's standing with Melissa Ford on this topic.
Speaker 2: Where he was saying was being sarcastic, like nobody got
Speaker 2: her back. But I thought he was saying why the
Speaker 2: more people got her back? So I went on live
Speaker 2: and kind of got it everybody on the show. So
Speaker 2: I already told him, I see what that show do.
Speaker 2: Them niggas trying to bait you. So you say something
Speaker 2: and then they go back and talk about what you said.
Speaker 2: So basically without this morning, so let's do a quick
Speaker 2: rundown to this shit. Right. You get up there and say,
Speaker 2: I may have been fucking with young bitches, young females.
Speaker 2: Pardon me. I don't say nothing, So you apologize, So
Speaker 2: I say, fuck your apology and fuck all y'all niggas.
Speaker 2: And then you come back and say, no, I'm standing
Speaker 2: with Melissa for fuck that. Kim is bugging and how
Speaker 2: am I bugging? Yo? How am I bugging? Because I
Speaker 2: don't want to accept your apology. I'm a somebody out
Speaker 2: for trying to say I was around some bullshit like that.
Speaker 2: Why don't y'all niggas just be like, you know what,
Speaker 2: we was dead wrong And my thing wasn't they not
Speaker 2: doing a live show? So Joe butten let that fly.
Speaker 2: It's two things. The way I say is this, you
Speaker 2: wanted the clicks or you threw her under the bus
Speaker 2: because they ain't a live show. You could have took
Speaker 2: it out, period. So yeah, So at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, that's the rundown. And today, so today, I
Speaker 2: guess his podcast came out, which y'all see up when
Speaker 2: I posted, and he's talking about oh because I say,
Speaker 2: what if I I wasn't I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 2: But I was like, what if I suit for defamation
Speaker 2: the character? He told my old thinkers ain't got no
Speaker 2: money to suit for defamation the character. I'm like, why
Speaker 2: are you defending this shit that this girl did and
Speaker 2: she already knew she was wrong to do it, but
Speaker 2: you still find a way to defend it. So today
Speaker 2: I put that clip up because he said, and y'all
Speaker 2: be like, and he said, yeah, this is still gonn
Speaker 2: lissen Ford, y'all be liking the cheap escorts or Instagram
Speaker 2: liking her pictures and this and the third, so I'm like,
Speaker 2: is she an expensive escort? Because you mad niggas is
Speaker 2: like in the cheap escort. So I put that up.
Speaker 2: And he had on a cheetah romper with sandals, and
Speaker 2: I put that up, and that's what happened. That's the
Speaker 2: whole morm. That's what happened today. I really don't want
Speaker 2: to be bothered, but y'all niggas is dad wrong and
Speaker 2: I'm not and I'm mad funny, I'm wow, funny, broom wild, funny,
Speaker 2: like like I clawn my nigga. I really would choose
Speaker 2: to leave y'all niggas alone, but y'all don't want because
Speaker 2: it's mad more shit I got paor like, I'd rather
Speaker 2: just not even funk with y'all because it's not even fun.
Speaker 2: It's like picking on nigga when they come to like
Speaker 2: clown and niggas, so it's on them. Hopefully they just
Speaker 2: leave me the funk alone.
Speaker 1: Will to continued.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: The current state of the league lebron kd Steph. Some
Speaker 1: of these guys getting older. You think the league is
Speaker 1: in a good position right now.
Speaker 2: League is in a great position. It's about you know,
Speaker 2: we're talking about that as well. It's like to me,
Speaker 2: who wants to be like the next Jordan Lebron? Who
Speaker 2: wants to step up? It's great players. But I'm trying
Speaker 2: to trying to think that's a great question. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think how to put it, Like do Jannis want that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards? You know, you know Jason, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Jason Tatum, Booker.
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum Booker, joelmb Luca. You know, it's a lot,
Speaker 2: you know, and of course Anthony Edwards too. But you
Speaker 2: gotta want it, you know what I'm saying, You gotta
Speaker 2: want that. You gotta be like, Yo, this is this mine,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like as much as as
Speaker 2: much as he never bet Jordan, but when Alan Imson
Speaker 2: walked in the league, like yo, I'm here, nigga, Like you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Yeah, where's that at? Where's like? Yo, Yo,
Speaker 2: this is my dance floor too, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: where's that at? And I'm not mad at players having
Speaker 2: karateie and being cool and everything else, but y'all. Niggas know, y'all, niggas,
Speaker 2: I ain't speak to my niggas for weeks if I
Speaker 2: lost the niggas and they might have been that Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: nigga beat from with Kobe and all type of ship.
Speaker 2: Y'all niggas know, Like I'm not saying, go out there
Speaker 2: and start beating niggas up. But where's the niggas who's
Speaker 2: mad that they didn't lose that lost? You know what,
Speaker 2: I'm niggas be able to smile like yo, yo, it's
Speaker 2: been great now. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you all a question real quick? Who
Speaker 2: do you think is the best American player? We just
Speaker 2: we just asked LaMarcus Aswers that question last okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we said shoot it over with the best America.
Speaker 1: Right now current. I think with Lebron stepping away soon,
Speaker 1: I think it's Jason Tatum right now, at this moment.
Speaker 2: Is Jason Tatum? I think?
Speaker 1: I think so. I think Anthony Edwards a booker in
Speaker 1: that conversation.
Speaker 2: But I think still better stuff right now. I'm going
Speaker 2: best right right now, right this very second. Yeah, Steph Curry,
Speaker 2: Steph Curry. Good point, that's what I brought him. Mother,
Speaker 2: Just stuff in there.
Speaker 1: Because I'm thinking older, like I'm thinking next. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Steph another three four years, three, four or five.
Speaker 2: Years three at the most. I think Steph. I was
Speaker 2: just about to say he's gonna cruise one. I just,
Speaker 2: I just I think I give Steph four more years
Speaker 2: and if if niggas helpful, I gotta.
Speaker 1: I got a question for you, responsibility as a fan
Speaker 1: of the game and and and understanding the sport. If
Speaker 1: you're in the position of Golden State's management, do you
Speaker 1: ride the respect wave with with Draymond and Clay until
Speaker 1: Steph is done? Or do you try to put the
Speaker 1: best team out there possible until Steph is done, meaning
Speaker 1: that you may have to trade a Draymond or a
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson.
Speaker 2: I think that's why they, gentlemen mans your left last year,
Speaker 2: because he don't want to be in that position to
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Nigga, like, man, this is
Speaker 2: good camp ye your ship boy, that's good. That's good.
Speaker 2: Like that's good, that's good right there, that nigga said,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the one to do this ship.
Speaker 2: I'm leaving man, So man comeing this motherfucker space and
Speaker 2: make his niggas respect you come on with this ship. Man.
Speaker 2: That was at That was a hot take you just said, Bro,
Speaker 2: I ain't never heard nobody say it like that. That
Speaker 2: was dope. Yeah, that's a fact because that nigga. You
Speaker 2: know that nigga. I ain't saying he capping when Katie
Speaker 2: towards the kid, He's crying and I think he genuinely
Speaker 2: funcks with that whole crew, but he no, tough decisions
Speaker 2: are about to have to be made, and he like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the one to do it,
Speaker 2: so he stepped down. As far as the new yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a fact. But as far as the new, uh,
Speaker 2: Gentlealman's concerned. Look the way it's looking now my opinion
Speaker 2: to answer your question, it's about money everything. You know.
Speaker 2: When I say about money, Clay, you don't look like
Speaker 2: you're getting no Max nigga. This don't look good, bro,
Speaker 2: This do not look good. Bro. If they didn't give
Speaker 2: it Jordan, Yeah, That's what I'm saying. But you know
Speaker 2: it ain't it ain't this what they ain't what you
Speaker 2: did yesterday is what you're gonna do for me next?
Speaker 2: And I know Clay won a max contract or at
Speaker 2: least close to the max, but only nigga playing max
Speaker 2: basketball Golden State is Steph Curry. You know, you gotta realize,
Speaker 2: even though it was a fucked up situation as far
Speaker 2: as the footage getting out, as far as Draymond uh
Speaker 2: snuffing Jordan Pool or whatever, they just get that nigga
Speaker 2: like one thirty for Chris Paul as much as I think,
Speaker 2: you know, we have Chris Paul hard timent show, but
Speaker 2: I fuck with Chris Paul, but you give away your
Speaker 2: future because the chemistry or the caaraderie in the locker
Speaker 2: room wasn't right. You know that nigga, him and Andrew Wiggins.
Speaker 2: That was the two niggas hanging out all the time
Speaker 2: because they was at that age group of the younger
Speaker 2: players that wasn't there for the first couple of championships
Speaker 2: that they went to. To me, the answer question, I think
Speaker 2: they're gonna ride with these niggas to the wheels falls off.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's smart or not, but I
Speaker 2: think that's where ownership is at. I think that's where
Speaker 2: that Steve curR is at and honestly new management. But
Speaker 2: I do it. I don't know. It's about how much
Speaker 2: I can get Clay for right now.
Speaker 3: He still got time to turn it around though, still,
Speaker 3: and that's the only thing right he still got time
Speaker 3: to turn around.
Speaker 2: Play Finn. Listen, I'm not sitting here bad mouth no way.
Speaker 2: You asked me a question. I'm telling you. I do
Speaker 2: it on my show. I know niggas be mad, but
Speaker 2: you gotta tell the truth, bro, And niggas just got
Speaker 2: twenty young. I think three games go the first time
Speaker 2: somebody got more than twenty besides stuff Curry. It's the
Speaker 2: first fifteen six games. Nobody got more than twenty points
Speaker 2: on the Golden State Warriors, which is absolutely freaking ridiculous. Bro.
Speaker 2: We had yeah, but I'm saying for the first fifteen games,
Speaker 2: nobody gets twenty points besides Steph Curry Clay. I like Clay.
Speaker 2: I think his injuries fucked up his defense because he's
Speaker 2: a good two way player, you know. Uh, And now
Speaker 2: it's starting to get mental. When you're a shooter, that
Speaker 2: shit could get really mental and you're not knocking shots down.
Speaker 2: Now you got niggas talking like last year when he
Speaker 2: came back off injury, Clay Clay act like he don't
Speaker 2: be paying attention, But he pay attention. You know, he
Speaker 2: get mad at Charles Buckley and uh, you know, Kenny
Speaker 2: Smith and them niggas up there because they'll say something
Speaker 2: about him, like, damn, give me a chance to get
Speaker 2: back in rhythm. Fuck them niggas. Focus on what you
Speaker 2: gotta do to get back to where you had. A
Speaker 2: lot of players act like they not listening, but niggas
Speaker 2: be listening. Yeah right now. To me my personal opinion,
Speaker 2: I'm a Clay Fair. I think whatever injuries he had
Speaker 2: is fucking up his lateral movement because he was running
Speaker 2: the best defensive players in the league at a time
Speaker 2: and now he's not. You know, even last year when
Speaker 2: he's getting all that ship in Memphis, you know, you
Speaker 2: let them niggas get under his skin. You're throwing up
Speaker 2: the four rings and niggas. You let Devin Booker get
Speaker 2: under your skin. You're letting these young niggas get under
Speaker 2: your skin. And they want your spot, nigga, They want
Speaker 2: your spot. Nigga. You got you got something of the
Speaker 2: niggas want, so I think you gotta get clear of
Speaker 2: the discount. Y'all are right, It's plenty of basketball left,
Speaker 2: but at this rate, it ain't gonna happen. Hopefully he
Speaker 2: does turn it around.
Speaker 1: Now, hopefully does quick hit his first thing to come
Speaker 1: to mind, let us know, top five n y C
Speaker 1: hoopers of all time?
Speaker 2: Ever? Could we throw Carmelo and Jordan said, yeah, y'all
Speaker 2: go with Kareem ab dude, your ball first, tiny archer
Speaker 2: ball second, Yes, sir, tiny yalla ball, Stephan Marlburry. I
Speaker 2: would go somebody ain't thinking about and somebody I'm not
Speaker 2: thinking about.
Speaker 1: King from He's.
Speaker 2: From New York and now Yeah, mm hmmm. I don't
Speaker 2: got to the n b A. It could be anybody.
Speaker 1: Anybody.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've never seen Pee Wee play, so but I'll
Speaker 2: be hearing about the man. You know, they his his
Speaker 2: legend stories be out of coming out. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: be crazy. Doctor J. He's from long Allen. Yeah, Doctor J.
Speaker 2: I never seen Earl Manigat play neither. So who I
Speaker 2: got Stephan R. Marlbury, Kareem or Georgia ball Archiball, Doctor J.
Speaker 2: Doctor J. And I would go with fucking I go
Speaker 2: with Ali. Yeah, Yeah, that's one of my fast basketball players.
Speaker 2: He could do it all. Who's your childhood crush? Childhood
Speaker 2: crush too? Uh we say child like it could be
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen, yeah, yeah, teen years. So I'll tell you
Speaker 2: real quick story. So I love Holly Berry right. So
Speaker 2: one day I'm at the this is I was just
Speaker 2: getting a record deal. So we just got to finished
Speaker 2: playing basketball in LA and I'm sweaty. He's in a
Speaker 2: fifteen passer Evan. I wasn't playing like trying to go
Speaker 2: to the league. We're just playing ball. I'm at the
Speaker 2: ATM and niggas just like, yo, it's Holly buried next
Speaker 2: to you. I got no haircut on, no shirt er
Speaker 2: in the LA. Yoah, let me talk to you real quick.
Speaker 2: She's like no, no, no, no, no, no, you have
Speaker 2: to relax. I'm like, hear me out, hear me out.
Speaker 2: So she walked into her car man fast and I'm
Speaker 2: following them. But I had a cassette tape. My promo
Speaker 2: was cassette tapes at the time before Seeas came out.
Speaker 2: So I'm at least let me just give you my tape.
Speaker 2: So she rode the window theren this was it was
Speaker 2: a nigga in the passenger see laid back. I slid
Speaker 2: the ship through there and gave her my fucking uh
Speaker 2: my promotion. It wasn't my album. It's one of them
Speaker 2: ships we got like the snippet songs on that Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I gave her that shiit. So like six years later,
Speaker 2: I'm platinum and all this other shit. I'm at the American,
Speaker 2: the Music American, the Music Awards, and I'm in there
Speaker 2: with man niggas, Nelly in there. I'm in there with
Speaker 2: fucking Tyson back for Laurence Tate, Laurence Tate, all these
Speaker 2: people coming out to michiam. I love you so sate, like, Yo,
Speaker 2: my nigga, I fuck with you, nigga. You one of
Speaker 2: my favorite Yo. You my nigga. Yo. For years you know,
Speaker 2: I was me and the passage to see what Holly
Speaker 2: when you slipped up right there, I said, that was shoot,
Speaker 2: my nigga. I sent the bitch to ATM go grab
Speaker 2: a couple of dollars and she don't not grabbed the
Speaker 2: CD out the bitch here and you don't know what
Speaker 2: the fuck this isn't yo, nobody else knows this story.
Speaker 2: That was fu.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, bro, that was razy damn.
Speaker 2: My second one was Jane and Jacknie my second crush
Speaker 2: Janet Jacknie, porn Star, pawn starf Yeah yeah, got on
Speaker 2: the night stuff Jane and Jacknie Ship.
Speaker 1: How did you feel them? Not not street money when
Speaker 1: you first got your first big music money? Would you
Speaker 1: spend that first check on.
Speaker 2: My grandmother a Rolex? I ain't even buying no house
Speaker 2: or not. I just bought my I'll standing my grandma
Speaker 2: for a while. I bought a Rolex and some ear rings.
Speaker 2: That first thing I bought myself anything. First thing you
Speaker 2: do in the morning, last thing you do at night.
Speaker 2: First thing during the morning, brush my teeth and drink
Speaker 2: some tea. Uh, turned on sports to see what's going on.
Speaker 2: And then at night I smoked some weed and listen
Speaker 2: to music and ship trying about catch a vibe. You know,
Speaker 2: girls around, try and get girls definitely person foremost every
Speaker 2: night before anything else.
Speaker 1: Five dinner guess dead are alive? You plus five at
Speaker 1: the dinner table.
Speaker 2: At the dinner table, I go, you know, I go.
Speaker 2: People that I didn't meet that I want to meet
Speaker 2: I haven't met. I want to have Eddie Murphy. I'm
Speaker 2: a big Larry David fan. My days like my favorite nigga. Damn,
Speaker 2: y'all have some good questions you like, Hey, you like
Speaker 2: sarcastic niggas. Larry David, he's Larry David, Like yo, like nigga,
Speaker 2: that's the only nigga. I was fucking fan out that
Speaker 2: niggas fucking hilarious show, super larious. Who else would I
Speaker 2: saying with? Because I kind of met everybody I want
Speaker 2: to meet? Who's some cool niggas? That's cool? I don't
Speaker 2: really know a lot of cool niggas.
Speaker 3: They pick pick pick somebody that's that's that's that's dead
Speaker 3: that you want to have dinner with?
Speaker 2: Who's dead? Like, well, I picked the niggas I love,
Speaker 2: like my cousin Bloodshed or big Al and Biggie Smalls
Speaker 2: say that that's a good one.
Speaker 3: And my mom, you know, mom, one guess who would
Speaker 3: you like to see on All the Smoke? But but
Speaker 3: you have to help us get your answer on the show.
Speaker 2: Explain that who would you like to see on All
Speaker 2: the Smoke?
Speaker 3: But but you have to help us get your answer
Speaker 3: on the show.
Speaker 1: So somebody you know, somebody in your phone?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, oh my answer you on the show. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna says, gonna treat y'all like the deeds, and
Speaker 2: he's gonna treaty' all like your investigation, not talking about that.
Speaker 2: I get somebody like an open book. Did you have
Speaker 2: Jada kiss Hip kiss kiss Your kiss is fucking like
Speaker 2: this is underrated, super funny nigga. I've been in the
Speaker 2: studio with it. Yeah, that's because his personality sometimes doesn't
Speaker 2: come across. Uh oh j Simpson the juice, the juice.
Speaker 2: But we got to clear with nobody. We own this ship.
Speaker 1: But you know, he said he can't come to l
Speaker 1: A because he might be sitting at the next to
Speaker 1: the nigga that did this.
Speaker 2: We have to do it somewhere else. We have to
Speaker 2: do it. Hey, look look I gave y'all an answer
Speaker 2: and the number in my phone that's yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we appreciate that. Two things before you get out
Speaker 1: of your one. We want to do a collapse show
Speaker 1: with y'all somewhere make some money.
Speaker 2: Let's go get it. What it is is that like
Speaker 2: we still be outing shows and ship like on the weekends,
Speaker 2: we still be booked, like MA had to show this
Speaker 2: weekend and uh, that's why he could. We want to
Speaker 2: do the collide with you all this weekend. But I
Speaker 2: knew y'all was in town for the for the nbation,
Speaker 2: so I didn't want to miss the opportunity Sanwich, especially
Speaker 2: being this nigga talk all the time and uh be
Speaker 2: giving each other information back and forth. So I ain't
Speaker 2: never want to seem like I ain't want another sit
Speaker 2: Downwich all niggas, So I made him my business to stay.
Speaker 2: Now you already know I would have. I would have
Speaker 2: went home too, uh this weekend because sometimes we got
Speaker 2: shows and we still book like and Mason's book this weekend.
Speaker 2: But as soon as possible it might gotta be uh,
Speaker 2: I would say, uh, probably towards the end of January,
Speaker 2: because May's still gonna be on is what it is.
Speaker 2: But he's gonna be via sidell like he has. Uh.
Speaker 2: He's going on tour in Australia for three weeks in January,
Speaker 2: right right, Yeah, I ain't gonna I'm saying I ain't
Speaker 2: getting paid Mason. Mason's going to the press all the money.
Speaker 2: I'm unreasonable too, had a driver for me. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean with y'all niggas were gonna work it out for sure,
Speaker 2: definitely good. I'm I'm the U over here on this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the fact. But yeah, if it makes sense that
Speaker 2: absolutely you'll realized Australia like a twenty five hour play ride. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, you're gonna for three minutes. Listen. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you. Mason's unreasonable, y'all to realize MAS make a
Speaker 2: lot of money outside of this show. The show me
Speaker 2: doing that nigga, he's on zoom calls every day. You know,
Speaker 2: the God God has blessed him. Yeah, hell say that.
Speaker 2: He's trending right now. So he just dropped it on
Speaker 2: the concert he had last night. He did a dough freestyle. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's blowing up right now. Yeah, that nigga may still
Speaker 2: couple a couple of names and distance he throwing that
Speaker 2: in the freestyle. Yeah, this jamming too. I know what
Speaker 2: he talked about with them cameras they knowing. I don't
Speaker 2: even know what's going on. But yeah, y'all figuring it
Speaker 2: out and give me to Australia.
Speaker 1: Cool, but I'm not We could do somewhere in the States. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is fine to do a show. But before we
Speaker 1: get you out of it, man, we just wanted to
Speaker 1: give you your flowers. Man, like what you guys have
Speaker 1: been able to do. Obviously, your music career speaks for
Speaker 1: itself what you did in the stance you made in that,
Speaker 1: but your crossover in this space and you brought a
Speaker 1: new angle, some new energy, some new ship talk, and
Speaker 1: some ship that everyone could really turn into, tune into,
Speaker 1: and the ship that we're really saying, like we can't
Speaker 1: say some of the ship y'all say, and we off
Speaker 1: the hook. So we appreciate you all being and make
Speaker 1: a lane for it.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'll watch you guys before we even
Speaker 2: thought about doing this, and I'm like, this is dope ship,
Speaker 2: but like that, what's the money? Like that was always
Speaker 2: what I used to think about it. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 2: because I'm not talking just y'all, I'm like, yo, I
Speaker 2: didn't never know what was going on in this space.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, there's a lot of people just turning
Speaker 2: MIC's on. Bro. It is, Yeah, Yeah, that's the thing
Speaker 2: about it. It's right now with some fucking mad quantity
Speaker 2: over quality. Yes, and I'm inequality, But thank you guys
Speaker 2: for what you're doing and making me want to do it.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I appreciate you, bro, but thank you man.
Speaker 1: That's a rap right there, The one and only can
Speaker 1: Killer Can Man. You can catch this, you know where
Speaker 1: you can catch this, And we're gonna see y'all next week.
Speaker 2: All the Smoke Productions