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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back All the Smoke.

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Speaker 2: Jack.

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Speaker 1: We got a good one today, man. We got a

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Speaker 1: good when we had LaMarcus all just first, that was

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Speaker 1: a dope ass interview. But I think this is the

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Speaker 1: one we've been waiting on all trip man. We went

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Speaker 1: on you all trips.

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Speaker 2: Before. It's crazy, before you start. See Lamark. We was

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Speaker 2: filming like two days ago. I seen lamarkets Sultiers. He

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Speaker 2: ain't know about our shows, so he's walking by. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: come in here, man. You're like, it's fucking harassing me.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's your health, bro. You are right my nigga,

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Speaker 2: because we wanted to talk to the nigga, but he

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Speaker 2: didn't even know what the fuck we had going on.

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Speaker 2: Shout to them, Marcus Soldiers, Man, this is what it is,

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Speaker 2: is a show. Come fuck with us. Sometimes my nigga.

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Speaker 2: He was depe to like because you know he's someone

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Speaker 2: that don't really speak. He came and broke down the

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Speaker 2: game we had. We had a blast with him, That's

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Speaker 2: what's up.

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Speaker 1: But really, bro I mean, how the transition has been

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Speaker 1: a beautiful I think you think you've taken this lane,

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Speaker 1: you know, by surprise, and created your own lane, being

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Speaker 1: able to capitalize off it financially and just other business

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Speaker 1: you know ventures as well. But how did the process start?

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Speaker 1: You originally started it is what it is. I think

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Speaker 1: he was by yourself and an old girl, and tell

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Speaker 1: us how that whole process came about.

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Speaker 2: That. First of all, thank you guys, because niggas like

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Speaker 2: y'all made it possible for a person like me to

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Speaker 2: even entertain this because a lot of times niggas just

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Speaker 2: be corny and I'd be like, this is just a

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Speaker 2: whole corny lane, Like I don't even want to fuck

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Speaker 2: with this shit period. But so many people was coming

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Speaker 2: to me like yo to a podcast, be on our podcast, dude,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't really want to talk to

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Speaker 2: niggas for a living, Like if I had to talk

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Speaker 2: to niggas for a living, I don't want to do it,

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Speaker 2: and I love sports. I always watch sports and shit.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, look, it's no real niggas talking how

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Speaker 2: we talk with a professional setting in the background. So

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Speaker 2: I said to myself, look, I'm gonna get the suits,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna build a set, and then when you get

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Speaker 2: up there, Oh, when you watch it, you're gonna be like, oh, nah,

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Speaker 2: the fuck going on? Like when we first I did

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Speaker 2: the first couple of episodes, niggas said, Yo, they got

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Speaker 2: cam talking like this on ESPN. They didn't know what

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Speaker 2: the fuck was going on. Yeah, because the set was

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Speaker 2: there and everything. So I just took a chance on

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Speaker 2: me and was like, I'm gonna try and do sports,

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Speaker 2: but do sports my way. Very knowledgeable on sports, maybe

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Speaker 2: not as knowledgeable or experience you niggas got. But at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, I watched like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: be on the phone arguing with niggas for two hours

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Speaker 2: about sports. You look at her phone and it said

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Speaker 2: an hour seventeen minutes about arguing with sports anyway.

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Speaker 1: And he was doing it for free, right.

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Speaker 2: For no reason. So I built the set I got,

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Speaker 2: you know, I got production company down in Miami and

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Speaker 2: that was it. My man felt the talent that was

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes. In the beginning, we had a girl

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Speaker 2: named Asthmarelda. She was a dope monerator, but you know,

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Speaker 2: sometime I would throw it to her and she wouldn't

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Speaker 2: as morel She's a really dope monerator, very professional, very

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Speaker 2: very good cadence. So I don't want to throw no

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Speaker 2: So the first couple of episodes, I had my old

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Speaker 2: last November, shot an episode in December, took Christmas off.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna come back January. My mom got sick.

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Speaker 2: She got diagnosed with cancer January eighth, Yeah, and from

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Speaker 2: I just had to sit there and watch my mom die,

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Speaker 2: even like she wasn't feeling well before that, like we

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Speaker 2: and that shit fucked me up for a minute. Got

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Speaker 2: myself back together. So then he picked the show back

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Speaker 2: up and Mace as a guest. Mace like the energy. Uh.

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Speaker 2: He asked me to be partners. I said, I put

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Speaker 2: up a quarter mill if you and he said I'm

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Speaker 2: match it. I said, I ain't spend it yet, which

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Speaker 2: we never had to spend a quarter meal, but he

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Speaker 2: want the matches, So we became partners and that's how

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Speaker 1: That's dope. So how to to backtrack a little bit

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Speaker 1: because obviously there was some friction between you and Mace,

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Speaker 1: so obviously you guys have squashed it before that. But

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Speaker 1: what was it like being able to reconnect with him

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Speaker 1: and then I mean, I don't think y'all knew how

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Speaker 1: big this was going to be, But what was that

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Speaker 1: process like kind of healing that friendship first and then

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Speaker 1: become a business partners again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like no, Mace gave me, gave me an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to get my first record deal. You know, he had

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Speaker 2: his record deal. So we was playing high school basketball.

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Speaker 2: I was fifteen All America, come out of high school.

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Speaker 2: I was supposed to go to University of Miami. He

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Speaker 2: the first round of playoffs. I never went back to school.

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Speaker 2: Fucked that satis, Fuck everybody. I got the second one

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Speaker 2: then fucking like July came and I'm like, everybody's like, yo,

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Speaker 2: what school going to them? I'm like, damn, I didn't

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Speaker 2: just got in wild trouble. Like you know, everybody know

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Speaker 2: Walmart now like Walmart wasn't in New York at nineteen

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Speaker 2: And I just was buying guns and shit, and I

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Speaker 2: ended up getting in. While we won't get into it,

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Speaker 2: I got what I did, but it just got kicked

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Speaker 2: out of school. So when I got kicked out of

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Speaker 2: school makes it older than me. He had a record deal,

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Speaker 2: were about to get his record deal, and he got

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Speaker 2: started with bad boys. So I never went back to

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Speaker 2: When he got his deal and started signing three four

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Speaker 2: so on and so forth. So just giving you a

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Speaker 2: history of how we got to with Mace. So Mace

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Speaker 2: he did a video for me, his first video, my

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Speaker 2: I had another single with him called a Horse and

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Speaker 2: started gassing me, like yo, why yeah, man ain't doing

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Speaker 2: charging me for the video, this, that, and the third.

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Speaker 2: So we kind of fell out over that got cool again.

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Speaker 2: So I started bugging out, don't know because of that,

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Speaker 2: me one day. I was like, that was pretty tough.

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Speaker 2: Was Oracle was tough? Yeah? But you know when he

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Speaker 2: made the Oracle, I felt like you brought him back. Nah,

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Speaker 2: not that because May still could roun May used to

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Speaker 2: again last year some time I tried to put a

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Speaker 2: we making some real money, He's gonna stick around. You

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Speaker 2: or do nothing else. But me and him is on

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Speaker 2: stick around. But well, we started speaking again. We want

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Speaker 2: they picked back right back. I got my not since

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Speaker 2: I was nine ten years old, so it's like we

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Speaker 2: didn't even skip a beat. As soon as we got together,

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Speaker 2: we started laughing about the same shit we was laughed

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Speaker 2: about before, started talking about the same old shit. So

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Speaker 2: as soon as we healed that relationship, it was like

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Speaker 2: the fifteen years didn't even matter. We just picked up

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Speaker 1: That's dope. Congratulations, we saw you signed Mark Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, we didn't sign Mark Jackson. Let's be

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Speaker 2: real clear, and that Mark wants to be real clear

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Speaker 2: on that. With that, we partner with Mark Jackson. H

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Speaker 2: pardon me. I got tired of what the fuck they

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Speaker 2: was doing the Mark man, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. That shit was some real

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Speaker 2: bullshit what they is during the Mark So I called

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Speaker 2: a text Mark. I got his number. So as soon

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Speaker 2: as that happened, I'm like, yo, Mark, you could make

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Speaker 1: OJ's commentating all the naked guns all the shit like, so.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny like a couple of years ago

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Speaker 2: be happy with what we're doing, the what you guys

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Speaker 2: Niggas don't like that shit at all. They don't really

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Speaker 2: this shit, right, Like, think about fucking Pat McAfee at

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Speaker 2: twelve in the afternoon cursing on ESPN and the yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a staple of the supposed community. We can't act

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Speaker 2: only do we y'all talk about players. Now you got

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Speaker 2: about nigg exactly, you know, exactly. Yeah they don't like that, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Ye let's take a step back a bit. What was

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Speaker 2: y'all lives around the corner from me, Ali Mo. I

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Speaker 2: nigga sixty eight point guard nigga black. Yeah, this is

423
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to tell you. But this is all,

424
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 2: this is all in two block proximity. This is all

425
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 2: the talent mace comes to my black herbal There's a

426
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: lot of rappers and basketball players, but Ali Mo actually

427
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 2: taught me the fundamentals of basketball, you know what I'm saying,

428
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: before I went to play for Gauchos or Riverside anything

429
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 2: like that. Like I'm talking about like it's seven years old.

430
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 2: Like he was already good. He had brothers to play basketball, So, uh,

431
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 2: I didn't know double dribble and walking. The nigga used

432
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 2: to get so fucking mad at me, like, Yo, you're

433
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 2: fucking traveling, Yo, you fucking walking. So he taught me

434
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 2: a lot. But Ali moshould definitely been the league. But

435
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 2: growing up there, it's just a belting pot of a

436
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 2: lot of talent. So you got drug dealers and you

437
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 2: got people who see past drug dealer who may be

438
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,239
Speaker 2: selling drugs to say, I don't want to do this

439
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 2: forever because the big time drug dealers may not see

440
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 2: the visional rap or may not invested in a basketball

441
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 2: player because they didn't understand that they potentially could go

442
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: to the NBA, or you could potentially be a platinum artist.

443
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: So like a lot of times, to be honest with me,

444
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 2: as far as like hustling in Harlem, I didn't really

445
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 2: get a lot of money, hustling at Harlem, I didn't

446
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 2: really get a lot of money, hustling time went to Ohio.

447
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: To be honest in Chicago because as much as they

448
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: tell you here go twenty dollars, don't do this and

449
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: don't do that. Like yo, nigga, I need Jordan's nigga,

450
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 2: I need I want a rope chain. You know what

451
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But they wouldn't. You can't really do anything.

452
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 2: Like I had a big dust block on my block,

453
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 2: so like my block was famous for selling dust, Like

454
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 2: Wu Tang used to come all the time and buy

455
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: mad that's from my block. Like that's for man, the

456
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 2: only reason I'm saying this, he said it. Yeah, he said,

457
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: that's the only reason I'm even saying that I used

458
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 2: to put it in songs. I'm like that. When I

459
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 2: seeing the niggas say it, I'm like, okay, cool, Like

460
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: I say something about these niggas used to buy mad dust,

461
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: like yeah, it wasn't just nothing, man, nigga. Them niggas

462
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 2: would come down and fourth because who tank was popping

463
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: them niggas If they come through the block, niggas was

464
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: good for like four or five days. And so the

465
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 2: way the block was is a one way street and

466
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 2: that the end of the block is where everybody's selling dust.

467
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: So me, God blessed that by man, Honey Combs honey

468
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 2: six Uh. We always kept a little dust on us

469
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: and be up the block saying, yeah, stop niggas because

470
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 2: these niggas selling fucking gallon you know, dunch juice coming

471
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: gallons and all that shit. All we need kept a

472
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 2: couple of bundles because if we made two three hundred,

473
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: that's fifteen sixteen years old, that's all you really need it,

474
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: And that would be good enough us because them niggas

475
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: would have kicked our ass if they knew we were

476
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: clipping their customers like that. Yeah, So as far as that,

477
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: that's that's how it was growing up on the West Side.

478
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 2: On the East Side, it was like this this guy

479
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 2: who always was talking about Yo Cam when you go

480
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: to the NBA, I'm gonna be an agent. I'm about

481
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: to start a rap label. Uh fuck with me. Uh.

482
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: He was getting a lot, he was getting a lot

483
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: of money hustling, and his name was Dame Dash, and

484
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: niggas used to think he was crazy and ship because he's like,

485
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a record, I'm gonna be a sports age,

486
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this, and he ended up doing all

487
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: that shit, you know what I'm saying. So Dame Dash

488
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: was like my right hand man. You know, Dame Dash

489
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: is the one if anybody was really getting money in

490
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 2: the street like that at Harlem, that I knew it

491
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 2: was him. You know what I'm saying.

492
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 3: How old were you when you came in to Dame

493
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 3: Dash when I first met him, When you first met him,

494
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 3: eleven twelve.

495
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: And he was in the mix. He's in the mix,

496
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: you know. Like you know, on the East Side, it's

497
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: like I don't want to say projects, but like kind

498
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 2: of like projects but as a community center there, so

499
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: everybody used to go in there and play ball, talk shit,

500
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: roll dice, swim. He used to throw a lot of parties.

501
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: He had a lot of girls. The shit called the

502
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: best out and him and his crew used to have

503
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: girls all the time. He used to sneak in them

504
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: shits and just be amazed at what the fuck they

505
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: was doing. And you know, he had ended up getting

506
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 2: with jay Z Partony and I remember we's like fifteen

507
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: years old. He used to put us in cabs to

508
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 2: jay Z's house and follow us. I was like, Damn,

509
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: I grew up. I was like, the nigga ain't give

510
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: a fuck about us, man, because we ain't asking no questions.

511
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: You know, when you're fifteen, sixteen years old and he

512
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: gives you six seven hundred dollars twice a week, nigga,

513
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: that's two million dollars in ninth tenth grade. You know

514
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So my man Duke, I introduced it

515
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 2: to my man Duke. To god, dude, the guy how

516
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: the driver's license at fifteen years old? In New York,

517
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 2: you gotta be eighteen years old they get a driver's license.

518
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: So fifteen years old with a driver's license is fucking amazing.

519
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: So I plugged Duke in with him and Duke used

520
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: to take mad stuff over the jay Z's house for

521
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: Dame Dash and we used to get a couple of

522
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: dollars out of it. So Day was like my man.

523
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: And then when I got into a bad record deal,

524
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: when I got an entertainment, me and him kind of

525
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: fell out. So I went to him to apologize, and

526
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: I was like, your dang because Rockefeller was at the

527
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 2: top of the hell. I'm like, dang, man, we did

528
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 2: all this ship for ya. I really need your help

529
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: to get me out this record deal. And we wasn't

530
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 2: even speaking the time he swept that shot of the

531
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: rug helped me get out my deal. And I saw

532
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: him the Rockefeller and I ain't really look back after that.

533
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 3: Before we dive into music. You know, we gotta touch this.

534
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: You say he was top of twenty five, hard breathing, like.

535
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

536
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: I seen I seen him tell Mace he blew the

537
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: game for us and all that, and and I didn't

538
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: believe him until I shot and I saw the footage.

539
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: I saw the push. He blew it. No I missed

540
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: the shot. He wanted me to pass it. But yeah,

541
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: you blew it.

542
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: But he said, he said, you blew the game, but

543
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: you said if you would have passed him, he wasn't

544
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: gonna make it anyway.

545
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: I had. I had nineteen points, you had two points.

546
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: You gotta go on the marketing.

547
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: I gotta get it. I'm cooking at the most points

548
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 2: in the game, like makes my man, don't get it

549
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: fucked up because because you know why, like this ship

550
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: comes up like twice a month. I'm like, yo, you

551
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: really you're in this type of time, but yo, my nigga.

552
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: Look yeah, realizing he'll say he was Genobili, he did

553
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 2: it for the sake of the team. But he a

554
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: year older than me. He a junior on my sophomore

555
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: when I was his junior year. My sophomore year, I started,

556
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: and you come off the bench like.

557
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: He was sacrificed for thee.

558
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, why am I starting over? Ya

559
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: mean year younger than he talked about. Genobili did it

560
00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 2: for the sake of the team. So yeah, yeah, if

561
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: I got Look, man, you know, if I got nineteen points,

562
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: he got two points. They shooting free throws. We a

563
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: massive square guard and that game is a massive square guarden.

564
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: It's a real NBA court, So you all the way

565
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: up the court. The niggas missed the free throw as

566
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: soon as you get there. I got to be bad.

567
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm going I'm not running to play. I'm not looking.

568
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: I'm looking. I'm dribbling, literally looking at the clock tick down.

569
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, you ain't score game, bro, Man, we're

570
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: gonna win or we're gonna lose. On my merit, I'll

571
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 2: take that. But yeah, he's that comes up twice a

572
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: fucking month still today, even when shit don't got done

573
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: to do a basketball like we were doing the show

574
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: cam you see passing me, we win, I'm like no,

575
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: because he helped me. You know, we negotiated our deal

576
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: for the show. He's part of negotiation and we got

577
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: you know, the underdog took care of us. He's yeah,

578
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: when you pass to me, we win. You see what

579
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 2: may sleave me the fucking line on about the game

580
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: already five, I should have passed the ball, bro, But

581
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: Max was really good too. It's just it's really God orientated.

582
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: And during that time, like you know, we're playing against

583
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: stuff on Marlbury at the time. Felipe Lopez was there

584
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: at the time.

585
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: You know, it was speaking to cut you off, speak

586
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: to Felipe because he had a lot of game and

587
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: never really materialized. But he had a whole lot of game.

588
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, you know what it is. I'm being

589
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: honest with you. First of all, we don't know how

590
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: old Felipe is. He comes from Dominicans birth certificate. My

591
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: man with the rice with s Felipe right there, that's

592
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: as Yeah, yeah, you know, we really don't know how

593
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: old Felipe Lopez is. Now, I tell you this much,

594
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: New York, especially Manhattan has a big Dominican community, like

595
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: talking about a bit Dominican community. Now, Felipe, I'm not

596
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: gonna say and say he wasn't good. I'd rather take

597
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: stuff than Felipe if you asking me my personal question.

598
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: But no, they was hyping ith. Yeah that Felipe's it's

599
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: better and stuff. He's a year older as far as

600
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: grade wise. But he was good. But it was the

601
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: hype behind it. And that's why to me and the materialize

602
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: it in the NBA because look, you go to the game.

603
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm not even exaggerating. I don't know if y'all ever

604
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: been in the like Broadway in Amsterdam and New York

605
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: probably Jack ad been everywhere. This all Dominicans Joe. So

606
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: when you go to these games, they come with guitars,

607
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: they come with being Joe's, they come with with xylophones.

608
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: Facts are not Broo he went to He was the

609
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: mascot at Rights, my man. That's a fact. Though these

610
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: niggas come ye niggas like so when I'm talking about

611
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: these niggas, the half the arena or whoever nigga's performing

612
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: at was filled with Dominican people, which was great support

613
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: because it wasn't like a Dominican basketball player at the

614
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: time coming out of New York. So his hype was crazy.

615
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna say and say he wasn't good.

616
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: He was good, but the hype behind it was it

617
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: was a hype trade, like to keep it a buck.

618
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: You know. It showed when he got the Saint John's yep.

619
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: You know as soon as you get to see Yeah,

620
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have been there all four years with the

621
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: hype he had. You know what I'm saying, he should

622
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: have been with Kevin Garnett, did yeah or not even

623
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: going They wanted him. They talk about the Knicks taking

624
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: him straight from Rice and nobody was really doing that

625
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: at the time. KG kind of broke that code on

626
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: sports illustrating high school all that. Exactly. That's a fact,

627
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: you know. I'm telling you. I remember looking at the

628
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: newspaper and they talk about the Knicks may give Felip Bank.

629
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: Then when he got the Saint John's you just seen.

630
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: Niggas wasn't with that, especially when you that nigga is

631
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: supposed to be that nigga. Niggas can't wait to kill you, y'all.

632
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: Niggas know like better than anybody. Like, oh, like I

633
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: don't really know who y'all played against college or high school,

634
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure that it was a nigga that

635
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: Jay's like, oh, that's y'all king back. Yeah, you know, yeah,

636
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So that's kind of how

637
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: it felt when it came to Felipe. I thought he

638
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: was good, but if I had to pick, I would

639
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: have picked stuff that was like a pure point guard.

640
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: He had brothers that played before him. He was really good.

641
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: Felipe was decent, but he was just taller and no disrespect.

642
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: He had the Dominican culture with him. Yeah, exactly, that

643
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: hype trading that whole joint. I must felipe as. When

644
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: I played to I played him and stuff Marlburry and

645
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: skipped them. My louse shot to Rafel Austin and my niggas.

646
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: But when I played it was the same thing, like

647
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: telling you like this, so y'all love and so your life.

648
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: You know it's funding me and stuff Marlborough. One day

649
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: was that nigga's funny. We was arguing on Instagram or Twitter,

650
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: one of them since I said, Steph, every time I

651
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: played you, I busted your ass. Bro every single time

652
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: what he saying said every time I said matter, let

653
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: me specify what I said. Let me be vert Beta.

654
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: I said, stuff every time I played against your high

655
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: school I bust your ass. He said, exactly, You're still

656
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: a high school basketball. That sounds like something Pop was saying.

657
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: I said, I said you one, hey, but I'm glad

658
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: you said that. He is one of the most underrated

659
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: NBA players of all time. The numbers he put up

660
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: is no reason he shouldn't have been the first ballot

661
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.

662
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: That's incredible crazy. All the times niggas get pineized for

663
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: what they do off the corner and their career exactly.

664
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: You know, y'all two guys are narrative. Yeah, y'all understanding.

665
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: Uh, is it fair to say that each bar Barrol

666
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: has a different kind of style of play. There's a

667
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: difference between the Hoopers in Brooklyn to Harlem to the

668
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: Bronx or basketballs basketball out there.

669
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: You know, we was talking about that ship man. We

670
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: was talking about none of them niggas to shoot. Yeah, yo, yah,

671
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: you know you know what we was talking about that

672
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: because since Kareem abdu Jabbar or Neuel Cinder, we don't

673
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: got no superstars. We got all stars. We ain't got

674
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: no superstar. We supposed to be the Mecca and ain't

675
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: no superstars from New York. It's no superstar because me

676
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: and me and Isaiah Thomas, the older Isaiah Thomas was

677
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: talking about that Jordan's he was born in there, but

678
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: he wasn't come on a nigga left when he I

679
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: ain't counting nigga three years old. Yeah, yeah, you got

680
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: to have him out right there. Yeah, he was born

681
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: in then, why maybe crookly he ain't play man, but

682
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: we have no.

683
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: Superstar Mellow Baltimore.

684
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, so niggas was born and left

685
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: and became superstars. We don't like, we don't got no fuckers.

686
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 2: We got good all stars. You know, we got stuff.

687
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: We got Skipp through Lou, we got Laa Stevenson. You know,

688
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: we got a bunch of good players. But there's no superstars.

689
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: But as far as Burrows are concerned, we had that

690
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: talk the other day. Me and Mace was talking about

691
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: that ship because like Queen's probably got the best, the

692
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: best guards. I would say, you know what I'm saying.

693
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 2: Or Brooklyn Harlem Niggas Buger Smith, Yeah he yo, We

694
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: told yo, bro it's so I'm so mad. It's not

695
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: footage or this nigga booger Yo, Like that's a nigga

696
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: right there. The first nig I ever seen throw behind

697
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: a nigga neck uh paus while he's playing this ship.

698
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: That nigga. We didn't know who he was. It was

699
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: just Christmas tournament they used to do in City College.

700
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: And there's like right switches fully baying now against Western House,

701
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: which the public schools back then in New York. If

702
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: you didn't go to stuff on Marlbury broke that too,

703
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: because he went to a public school. You used to

704
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: have to go to Catholic school to be no to

705
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: getting notoriety of people notice you and shit like that.

706
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: So with stuff with the public school, people start paying

707
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 2: attention to it. But before stuff went there, Booker Smith,

708
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: like you said, he came and played against Rice and

709
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: they're like, who's West House? We never heard of them?

710
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: And he killed all them niggas. I never seen nigga

711
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: shaking they and get an and one and then give

712
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: him a kiss on the cheek on the way to

713
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: shoot his free throat. So there's a wild disrespectful nigga

714
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: right there. Man. So but I would give props, to

715
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: be honest with you, if I had to the best

716
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: basketball players, it's Brooklyn and Queens my personal opinion. Holler on,

717
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: we got good players and we'll match up against anybody,

718
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: but we too distracted when the game is over. It's

719
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 2: too much going on. Niggas trying to sell drugs, Niggas

720
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: trying to fuck with girls. They's trying to get gold chased,

721
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: niggas standing up all night. Niggas is in the gambling spot.

722
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 2: Niggas want a roof to fuck. But it's too much

723
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: going on when the game is over, and it's no

724
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: structure with niggas who want to help you get better

725
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: when the game is over. You know what I'm saying.

726
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: Like Brooklyn, they had niggas who, Yo, come on, we're

727
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: gonna go do drills. We're gonna go, we're gonna go practice,

728
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: get up six the morning, We're gonna fucking you know,

729
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: people had structures, Harlem, it's no structure. Niggas stay outside

730
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: till it's like gray outside for real. Oh yo, you

731
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: broke day year like that was a stack. Oh I

732
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 2: broke day last night, like breaking day is staying out

733
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: till the sun comes out. And I was like a

734
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: stat Yeah, I broke day last night. So I wouldn't

735
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: give the credit honestly. You know, if you asked me

736
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: this ten years ago, I'm gonna say, Harlem, but Brooklyn

737
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: and queens to me as the best basketball.

738
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: Diving into music? What was that early grind? Like where

739
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: it is you didn't take rap serious until Big al

740
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: here convinced you to do it.

741
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you know, I was a bet like listen man,

742
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: And I'm old enough to say, like, I was delusional

743
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: to think I was going to the NBA. But that's

744
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: what niggas be thinking when your heart's really in it.

745
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: I didn't really understand basket ball until I stopped playing

746
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: basketball because part of me, y'all realized, I'm playing basketball

747
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: in late eighties, early nineties, so you not only know

748
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: how to play basketball out not to fight like you know,

749
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: it's not just you know, you're watching Anthony Mason, you

750
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: watching Charles Barkley, you watching fucking Rick Mahorn and Bill there.

751
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: But these thinkga's fighting too. It ain't like today, like

752
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: you know, you punch a nigga with a two pieces

753
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: of tech and you still in the game. So that's

754
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: how it translated into high school and biddy's and midgets

755
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: all that shit too. So I always stood I was

756
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: going to the NBA. And as far as music concerned,

757
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: I grew up around a bunch of rappers and we

758
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 2: used to rap for hobby, same shit I'm telling you about.

759
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't no focus. We played basketball. Then you fucking

760
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: go raple, you know what I'm saying. So it was

761
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: just like a hobby at the time. And then Big

762
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 2: La is the first person who got a record deal

763
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: from my block. So back then it's not like you

764
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 2: can easily get a record deal. So when he got

765
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: the record there. We was like, oh, we could kind

766
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: of take this shit seriously. And me and him used

767
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: to just wrap It wasn't just him, it was him,

768
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: her McGruff. We used to go to different parts of

769
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 2: Harlem and battle niggas. G Depp used to be really good.

770
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: Mace used to come to my black and rap. It

771
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: was like a melting pot for rappers. But when the

772
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: Big Al got the deal, it looked realistic, you know

773
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We didn't really see Dougie Fresh or

774
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: Rob Bas. The only person we saw before Big l

775
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 2: that was visible who was really in the street driving

776
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: around gold chains and then pvs and all that. When

777
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: we was young with Fat Joe, the Bronx is like

778
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: right there. So you would see Fat Joe, Fat Joe

779
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: come through cars, MVPs, gold change, like, oh shit, Fat Joe.

780
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: Like Fat Joe was on since he was young, even

781
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: before he came a rapper. Like you know, people, as

782
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: we get older, some of that shit phase out. But

783
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: care fron on Fat Joe. Bro that nigga has fucking stores, money, jewelry,

784
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: cars and he's around a good crew called d I

785
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: TC at the time, and he was like, you know

786
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: it was a lot of rappers, but it looked like

787
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: he was to get Bunny Nigga in that crew. So

788
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: he was the person that we used to see like,

789
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: oh we see what we know. We ain't see ll

790
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 2: Cooj all the Big Daddy Kane or all these other

791
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: people that was coming out. I George the person we see.

792
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: And when Big Al got the deal, we kind of

793
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: took it more seriously.

794
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: Speak on Children of the Corn group you had with

795
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: Mace Bloodshit.

796
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Children of the Corn with some shit Bigyu

797
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: kind of was putting together. Yeah, it was kind of

798
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: like some shit he's putting together because he see like

799
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: he kind of seen the vision early, but he just

800
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: had to fuck the record deal. So uh, it was me,

801
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: Mace Bloodshed who passed away her McGruff, and Big Out

802
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: with some other people too, and he had such a

803
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: fuck the record deal that we kind of was started

804
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: to surpassing him because Mace was getting hot and we

805
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: kind of took the name and kept it for ourself.

806
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: Beat made some Bloodshed and started doing mixtapes and just rapping.

807
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: But you know, shit wasn't realistic to you sign that paper,

808
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: you don't know what's realistic, And what's not realistic, So

809
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: we just took the day and read with it. If

810
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 2: you go on YouTube, all the old songs up there

811
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: right now. My man Digger did a lot of tracks

812
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: for them. Kidnamed Digga who was a producer from Harlem.

813
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: He did a lot of tracks. We had went to

814
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: school together, and all the songs on YouTube. But Tim

815
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: Mace got that deal. That's when it became realistic. But

816
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: Children of the Clone with some shit we were trying

817
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: to put together that never kind of paned out, but

818
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: Big Out kind of started that name his vision.

819
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: One story one of your favorite stories, something that stuck

820
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: out to you, funny crazy about Biggie.

821
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: Biggie. I don't really know Biggie, to be honest with you,

822
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, Ma's got his record deal.

823
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: He was on fire, how to state moving and I

824
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: was going with the money were everywhere, so he was

825
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: kind of set up and he didn't want me to

826
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: go to bad Boy thank God, you know what I'm saying.

827
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: So he Biggie at his own label and he took

828
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 2: me the Biggie Small's house and Biggie Smalls his leg

829
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: was broke from some car accident and some shit and

830
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: I had went up in his bedroom pause he had

831
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: two girls in the bed and I'm like, oh shit,

832
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: this real rapper shit like two bitches in the bed

833
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: and no type of shit. So he was asking Base

834
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: about this other rapper that we work with, and Mace

835
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: was like, my man is better. So he put on

836
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: beats and I just rapped for like forty minutes from

837
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 2: him straight, and he was like, cut the beat off.

838
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 2: What you want? So I'm like, I want two hundred

839
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand. I need a car, I need a house.

840
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: Da da da dah. He's like, all right, bet, I'm

841
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 2: gonna call my man Lance and get it. So we leaving.

842
00:41:54,360 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: Mace's like, why would you say that he could get

843
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: more than that? Don't have a town on what you want? Said,

844
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't fucking know me. Sin's Biggie man like, don't

845
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: do that again. I'm like, all right, cool. But he

846
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: ended up dying during that process. And when he was

847
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: shooting they were shooting the rust in Peace video for

848
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: Biggie and Harlem and his partner that he called named

849
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: Liz Rivera was there at Jacob York and I'm like, y'all,

850
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: I'm never got Biggie Ward to sign. They had just

851
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: did a new deal with Sony and they was like,

852
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: we'll give you the record deal because that's what Biggie

853
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 2: War died. That's kind of how my shait kicked off. Yeah,

854
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: but I don't Yeah, that's only met him that one time.

855
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: Is that the person that that's the same guy j

856
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: had problems with? Yeah?

857
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a Lance RAVERA. Uh, what's

858
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: your take us to the studio. Let's go to the

859
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 3: studio with Cam. What's your must halves? I know Tree

860
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: is a definitely must have in the studio. So you

861
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 3: and you in the studio, you're about to make Welcome

862
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: New York with jay Z and Jules. What's the must

863
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: have you got you gotta have in the studio?

864
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: That's a that's a that's a you know, that time

865
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: was kind of different like me all right, Like so

866
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: I'm real not cheap, but I'm financially cautious. I would

867
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: say studio costs money. If you don't got your own studio,

868
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: I tell anybody right at home.

869
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: So we so I'm not I'm not as experienced as you,

870
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: but you know, I'll do my little mix safe and

871
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: ship I used to tell people that too. They want

872
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: to come in the studio and catch a vibe and

873
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: trying to not write that shit at home because when

874
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 3: you're coming here, by time it take you to write

875
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 3: that ship.

876
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: We could have been did ten songs, right, so but

877
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 2: during that time, it's kind of like a green light.

878
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: We would catch a vibe and the suit because Wan

879
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: who's writing on O G One, it was a studio's baseline,

880
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: so it's kind of like a green light. As far

881
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: as welcome to New York City, uh, we always had

882
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 2: weed in there. I don't really drink until everything is done,

883
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: but I catch a vibe smoking. But as far as

884
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: the way the New York City Record went, uh, it

885
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: was kind of tension with me and jay Z, not

886
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: so know, fighting and no shit like that. It was

887
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: kind of like the way I took it was. You know,

888
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: when I got there, they already were situated and I

889
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: was trying to be super nice with everybody, and I

890
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: wasn't getting that real feedback. So I was like, all right, cool,

891
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: I just want to do my music. I came out

892
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: a bad deal, I'm in a great situation. Let me

893
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: just do what I gotta do and get the fuck

894
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: out everybody's way, so good. Tell like, you gotta realize

895
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: I was telling the name Dame had different distribution at

896
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: the time. He had death Jam, which we al was

897
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: on Elektra and somebody else. And I'm like, Dave, I

898
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: don't want to go to death Jam. I want to

899
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: go to Electra And he's like, Cam, it's gonna be

900
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: better at death jail, saying I got this diplomattion I

901
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: want to do. I think we shouldn't. He's like, trust me,

902
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: it'll be cool because you gotta realize you got Brooklyn niggas,

903
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: Philly niggas state property, and brook and Harlem niggas, not

904
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: one nigga each place, twenty niggas from me. So now

905
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: you got eighty personalities that you gotta juggle and you

906
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: gotta deal with. And when I got there, I already

907
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: been the fucked up deal. See that's the one thing

908
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 2: about it is I'm happy I was in the fucked

909
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: up deal. So now I know the business to where

910
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: those guys I'm not saying they didn't know the business,

911
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: but they being well taken care of, so they may

912
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: not need to know where the record is not spending

913
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: Hawaii Why is not spending in Austin, Texas? Why is

914
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: not spending in Seattle? I already had that knowledge from

915
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: getting jerked around. They didn't know that. So when I

916
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 2: got to death Jim Rockefeller, I became a monster. Yo.

917
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: You need to do radio. Yo. Why this ain't playing?

918
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: Why this ain't going on? This your move? This is

919
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: a closet down, this is an office. So Nigga's like,

920
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: why can't moving away on a business like that? Because

921
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: they kind of been taken care of already. I've been

922
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: jerked around, so I know who to talk to. And

923
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: I didn't think they liked that too much. And because

924
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't just Rockefeller, no respective Day more Jay z

925
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: or Biggs and none that because they were the label.

926
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: But I started going over, not saying over they had

927
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 2: cool Rockefeller doing this. Now I'm going upstairs to death jail,

928
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: Kevin Lyles, Leo Cohen, Julie Greenwalt Kaiser, I Rockefellas. But

929
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: now I need the big homies to push the button.

930
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's the parent Well, they

931
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: joint venture, but I considered them the parent company even

932
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: though it's a joint venture deal. And I started leaning

933
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: on them niggas you push the button, pushed the butt.

934
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: I had niggas sitting in their office every day, like yo,

935
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: go sitting Kaiser's office to Kaiser's a guy who did radio.

936
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: That's my man. Two shot the Kaiser, that's my nigga.

937
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: But he got so tired of us sending his motherfucking

938
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: office every day, eating his lunch and everything. Now when

939
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: we did Old Boy, but time that shit shit uh

940
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: maxed out. We was at that particular time before Kanye.

941
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: It was the number one radio record in death Jam

942
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 2: history because my man Zeke said and that shit every

943
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: day and just annoyed that nigga until he's like, okay, Cam,

944
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: you got fucking seventy thousand spins and be like all right, cool,

945
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: We'll leave you alone now. But you know that was

946
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: a big deal considering like death Jam history. You know

947
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: you got llll who J Republic Enemy, and jay Z

948
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: everybody else so far as New York City concerned. Back

949
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: to the original question, Sorry, jay Z got to talk

950
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: with me. He's like, Yo, it's tension. We cool, ya

951
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: ya YadA. So we broke the tension. So I'm like, well,

952
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: it's it's a beating the studio. Let's go now, and

953
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: he's like, bet and we went in there, so y'all

954
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 2: was together. I walk into night break, those scenario down.

955
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 2: I walk in the studio. Now, it's kind of like

956
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: it's already. I know it's tension already, so I'm just

957
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 2: what's up and keep it moving. I go in the studio.

958
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: He comes like, I talked to you, so I'm like,

959
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: what's up. He's like, ya, it seemed like it's a

960
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: little tension. I just want to say, yo, y'all doing

961
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 2: y'all thing. We don't need to have tension here. I'm like,

962
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: that's what I've been trying to tell niggas this old time.

963
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: But I don't even know what the fuck this shit

964
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: is about. He's like, nah, yeah, we're all good. We

965
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: ain't got no problem. So I'm I'm taking advantage of opportunity.

966
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: We good, well come in, come in, like, let's do

967
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: this right now. He like, bet, So we going there

968
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: and nigga listen to the beat for like five minutes

969
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: and did a verse. I'm like, who is this nigga?

970
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: Like cause you know, like you you know how we

971
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: were just talking about writing at home because I didn't

972
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: write nothing at home neither that day. But I just

973
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: come in to vibe and you know how you like

974
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: like writing at home. But he ain't here to beat,

975
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: he ain't cheat, and it ain't like he had some

976
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: balls at home. That nig you listen to be for

977
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: five minutes and went in there and did it two minutes.

978
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: And it's no way you could it because my name

979
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: is in the verse and like I'm saying my name

980
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: and the ship and all type of shit, So I

981
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: don't I'm not a good freestyler. He did that sho

982
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 2: off the top of his head. I'm a good writer.

983
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there like this, just writing my ship

984
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: so I could be fast too. And that's how the

985
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: song came about. That's just how it went. Yeah, it's

986
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: a classic last one am hey Ma? Remember so hey Ma?

987
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: Like oh boy was rocking first, hey Ma, wasn't really

988
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: catching on an urban radio. So I don't know, like

989
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: every city got like these pop stations in New York

990
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: is Z one hundred, you know when they play country

991
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: music and you know the pop songs. Yeah, you know

992
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: Britney Spears at the time and all if shit. It

993
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: wasn't working with black radio. Hey I wasn't working with

994
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: black radio. So my man's back to Kaiser. We like, Yo, Kaiser,

995
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: we're gonna be in here again until Kai I said,

996
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: we did everything we could do for this record, Cam

997
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: leave me the fuck alone. Like you guys have Zeke

998
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: sitting here for two three years. The black fucking stations

999
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: is not fucking with this record. It's just not he said.

1000
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: But strangely enough, the all turned the pop stations is.

1001
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: So it's like the pop stations is He's like, yeah,

1002
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: Ken Lane runs a pop station. I said, where's Ken

1003
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: Lane office? That right there? I see you, lad, yo Zeke,

1004
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 2: this the new mission. So now Zeke is sitting in

1005
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 2: this nigga name Ken Lane's office, like ya, get us

1006
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: on all the pop stations and so now we're on

1007
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: all the pops. So we found out as a Lino

1008
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: Richie sample. So that's why the ship ain't no Riching

1009
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: two times.

1010
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: You didn't even realize the crossover at the time that

1011
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: you're just making, you know.

1012
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: So now we're on all the pop stations across America

1013
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: because of Ken Lane, and now the urban stations is

1014
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: paying attach. It was like a backwards process. All the

1015
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: pop stations and now the urban states say, matter the

1016
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: fuck they get one of our niggas over there, bring

1017
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: them back home. So that's how I Hate Mon kind

1018
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: of worked out. It was like a reverse situation, but

1019
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: that's how that went.

1020
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 3: Any he worked with a lot of great producers. An

1021
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 3: who's your favorite to work with? Do you have one?

1022
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 3: They all bring something different?

1023
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, favorite, Damn, trying to think who's the favorite. Heat

1024
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: Makers is my favorite. It's out of heat Makers and

1025
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 2: just Blaze. You know what I'm saying, Like, he Makers

1026
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: is my niggas, like they gave it. They they helped

1027
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: create a diplomat sound, you know what I'm saying, Like

1028
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: my man Digga did that in the beginning, but he

1029
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: he made he Makers made like that diplomat sound. And

1030
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: Juge Blade had a lot of good, good records, so

1031
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: what we had on Rockefeller as well. But my favorite,

1032
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 2: I'll definitely have to say.

1033
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: He made eighteen year anniversary of Purple Haze this year,

1034
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: nineteen excuse of nineteen and it. What's your favorite songs

1035
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 3: out the project? Congratulations by the way, thank you man,

1036
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. That's probably my favorite album.

1037
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a dope time you know for

1038
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: me because so, like I was telling y'all niggas like,

1039
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: so I was, I was like in a fucked up deal,

1040
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: Like I had two gold albums and didn't really have

1041
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 2: that much money. So I kind of took the money

1042
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: I had and bought drugs and went to the Ohio

1043
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: with the shit. So the whole I lived in Columbus,

1044
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: Ohio for like five years. Man, Like I used to

1045
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: go the Lebron games when he was in high school.

1046
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 2: That's I know Rich and Maverick and I know them

1047
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: there in school and they know me too, from when

1048
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: I was living in Columbus and I got Rich out there. Man.

1049
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 2: You know, it's fucking so all that music was during Yeah,

1050
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: all that music was kind of like I'm getting the

1051
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 2: money I feel I deserved to get because the music

1052
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 2: business wasn't giving me the money I deserved. It wasn't

1053
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: because I was in a transition to leaving before Purple

1054
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: Hayes leaving Sony going to Rockefeller. So I went Platinum

1055
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 2: on Come Home with Me, and I'm like, I don't

1056
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: trust this man. I saw getting music money, but I'm like,

1057
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: I don't trust this shit. I'm just gonna keep Yeah,

1058
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: this is definite, you know what I'm saying. So that

1059
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 2: whole Purple Hayes album, I kind of was like getting

1060
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: wrapped money and street money at the same time. So

1061
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: it was just a great, great time and I was

1062
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: in a great space financially mentally. Everything was really good.

1063
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 2: So I had a real good time making that album.

1064
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: A favorite song I don't really know, because I think

1065
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: the whole album was really really dope. I felt I

1066
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 2: recorded a lot of Chicago because I was going back

1067
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 2: and forth from Chicago to Ohio, back and forth doing

1068
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: my thing and Twister. It was a lot of people

1069
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: that fucking was a part of that album. But I

1070
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: don't have a favorite song. I just think the album

1071
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: is open. Thank you guys for no knowledge that project.

1072
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe Jimmy said that the was supposed to be

1073
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 3: for you, and there was and then return he felt

1074
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: bad about it, so he gave it the down and

1075
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 3: our beat, which is to me, was harder.

1076
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was way harder. It ain't go like that,

1077
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, he might have forgot because he was there.

1078
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: He was definitely there for the whole process. He was definitely,

1079
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: he was definitely there the whole process. What happened was

1080
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: Kanye came to the studio, know Kanye trying to come

1081
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: up and ship, and so he played He played the

1082
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: B for me, pardon me this one. I still was

1083
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: on Sony though, and I'm like, I want that beat.

1084
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: He like bet and heard that show on the radio

1085
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 2: like two weeks later. I'm like, so, I'm gonna kill

1086
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: this nigga when I see this nigger deal. Why would

1087
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: he do that? Because that was that beat was hard?

1088
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: It was. I actually did that song over to Tupac beat.

1089
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: That song. I did a song called leave Me Alone

1090
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: let Me Live My Life, and I wrote that to

1091
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: the age to the Iszo beat, leave Me Alone, let

1092
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: Me Just Live my Life. I wrote that song to

1093
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: the age to the Iszo beat, but I ended up

1094
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: putting it on a song I did over Tupac's beat,

1095
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: Ambitions of a Rider. But when I got the Rockefeller, No,

1096
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: he was over there, so I can't really start no

1097
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 2: trouble with him, Like that's so fucked up. Ship. I

1098
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: let him know. So he gave me a beat CD

1099
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: and as far as down and I was concerned. He

1100
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: bro I got that's one of my favorite songs. No,

1101
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: no mine too. Now I appreciate it, but as far

1102
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: as a concern, he didn't give me that as a replacement.

1103
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: I didn't gave me a Beat CD like seventy beats

1104
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: on it and you found out one was like number

1105
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: forty eight. I fished that shit out off for DCD.

1106
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: I like, like, because you gotta realize your ears go

1107
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: crazy after a wilder, so you don't like beat forty

1108
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: nine be less they down now. It was like beat

1109
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: forty nine like this one sound like that, you gott

1110
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: gonna be fifty one ff. Then you're like, I think

1111
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: twenty three, thirty seven and forty nine was like like yo,

1112
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: even now talk to you. Send me six 'y five

1113
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: at a time, don't send me no thirty five beats

1114
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: at one time. Just just too much to consume at

1115
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: one time, post or taking your break not consumed. But

1116
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, I had to fish that shit

1117
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 2: out for seventy beat CD, but it ended up turning

1118
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: out good.

1119
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kanye, want somebody bring up his name to you?

1120
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: What's what's your first thoughts?

1121
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 2: Kanye? He played crazy with who? You want to play

1122
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: crazy with me? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah,

1123
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 2: that make crazy when it's convenient.

1124
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah the fact, Yeah, yeah, I agree.

1125
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: I agree with your whole hearted on that. When I think, yeah, exactly,

1126
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 2: exactly official. Every time I see Kanye. I've seen Kanye

1127
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: about about a year and a half, two years, about

1128
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: a year and alfgo Nigga was saying, as a motherfucker

1129
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: camera or something, you need some beats. I'm like, yeah,

1130
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: all right, cool man. It's like, yo, I might work

1131
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: around fun with you. You're going to tell you go

1132
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 2: telling you boboson like talking about beats. I'm like, all right, cool.

1133
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: Two days later and they're going crazy on the news

1134
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: and on tape or shit. Every time, he's perfectly fun, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1135
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: and he'd be saying some nice he be saying some

1136
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: true ship sometimes too. Yeah. I mean I've never seen

1137
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 2: a crazy Kanye personally ever.

1138
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: Diplomats early days, how'd that come about? Like you said

1139
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: you had mentioned it early on? What was the objective

1140
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: with that group?

1141
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: Just you know, kind of like after Mason left the

1142
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 2: music business and I was trying to put the team

1143
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: together that big out didn't put together, and I but Diplomats,

1144
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: I ain't do shit then nobody else saying to do.

1145
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: To be honest with you. I watched No Limit do

1146
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: what No Limit did. Then I watched cash Money do

1147
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: what cash Money did. Then I watched rough Riders do

1148
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: what rough Riders did. I watched Rockefeller do a Rockefeller

1149
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: did murder, even murder inc to a extent. And I

1150
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: like niggas like movements because when you got a movement,

1151
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: you can argue within the movement if it's all about

1152
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: the same shit. Like you know, niggas will be like, Yo,

1153
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: I like juviie better than Lil Wayne. Y'all like Lil

1154
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: Wayne better than this person. Yo, many fresh as the real,

1155
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: but you're still arguing about the same niggas. You know

1156
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's all in the same movement, you know.

1157
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: And I always thought about that because I was like, Yo,

1158
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: it could be somebody be like I don't fuck with Kim,

1159
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: but I fuck with Jim, or I don't fuck with Jim,

1160
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: but I fuck with Juels, or I don't fuck with Jewels,

1161
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: I fuck with hell out whoever we had around the time.

1162
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: And I'm like, as long as the argument period is

1163
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: within the circle us they listening and saw the same circle.

1164
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: So I used to, you know, niggas used to have

1165
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: no Limit fights on my block, like as much as

1166
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: they dumb nigga niggas was in New York where Camouflage

1167
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: Type and Master P had niggas going crazy. Nigga niggas

1168
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: that niggas going crazy. Mister serve On, mister Kola got

1169
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: down with them. Nigga Shaq was in the video. Nigga

1170
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 2: talked about P got four hundred million, niggas is going

1171
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: around by fake tank chains on tape and shit. Master

1172
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: P had that shit in a frenzy. And I used

1173
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: to sit there and observe niggas on my block argue

1174
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: but even before cast money argue about all the artists

1175
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: and no limit and then Master P, if you look,

1176
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: you know it wasn't no Internet and that that shit.

1177
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: But seemed like he had seventeen artists come out every week,

1178
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: Like you miss these niggas.

1179
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 3: Man, that's crazy to hear from a New York nigga

1180
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 3: and we from the South, we see it in real time.

1181
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Yeah, you know what I'm saying, so Yo,

1182
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: that shit was just amazing to see how many artists

1183
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: this nigga kept just putting out, Like I told you,

1184
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: like I remember clearly, niggas was talking about you know,

1185
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: Soaked the Shaka and he's the best nigga and my

1186
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 2: men want to fight because nobody knew who missed the

1187
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: servo on was and the niggas was like, yo, y'all

1188
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: niggas trip y your niggas don't know mister serve on y'all

1189
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: violating the whole no limit. And I used to I

1190
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: used to observe these arguments like, Yo, niggas is really

1191
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: going crazy about niggas who's in the same click. So

1192
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: I kind of took all that format to try and

1193
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: make the diplomat brand.

1194
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, double disc diplomatic community quickly went gold. What was

1195
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: it like when you guys dropped that project?

1196
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: It was dope because I got to put my niggas

1197
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: on you know what I'm saying, Like for me, I'm

1198
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: not one of them niggas that that UH want or

1199
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: the shine on the accolades, Like I could have did

1200
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: all these singles by myself, told about old boy, pardon me,

1201
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: hey ma, now put you Wells on the ship. Now

1202
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: let Zeke sing the hook. Yo, Jim, you direct the video.

1203
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: Jim direct. I forced Jim to direct the video. I'm like, Yo,

1204
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: why is your Nick because you know, back in the days,

1205
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: your name used to be at the bottom, but he

1206
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: used he was learning how to direct. I used to

1207
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: be mad that he shared to direct this credit name

1208
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: with somebody else, because I wanted everybody name to be

1209
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: on the screen. Now, that's the one thing I didn't

1210
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: like about master I'm saying about master P about what

1211
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 2: I was seeing. You know, he had a movie called

1212
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 2: I Got the Hook Up, Nah about it before I

1213
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: got to Grivey Ship. You know what I'm saying. But

1214
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: when you look at the credits, officer friendly, everything is

1215
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: master P, everything, producer, director, acting, this person, that person.

1216
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: The first ninety two ships is master Light aigg.

1217
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1218
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, this nigga want a credit for everything.

1219
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, just fake. Somebody else did some other shit.

1220
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: So when I watched about it, I'm like, uh, that's

1221
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: if you did everything. I ain't knocking it, but it'd

1222
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: be cool to have some other names up there and shit.

1223
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 2: So I always wanted other people to shine besides myself.

1224
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: And that's how I looked at the diplomatic situation.

1225
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: Uh New York in the nineties, late eighties, early nineties,

1226
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: a lot of different movement styles of music from Wu Tang, obviously, Rockefeller,

1227
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: Bad Boy, Locks, Terror Squad to name a few. Uh,

1228
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: everyone unique in their own way. What was music like

1229
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: for you back during that time.

1230
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 2: I mean it's like the you know music, you know,

1231
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: it was like the soundtrack for basketball. Really, like I said,

1232
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 2: music was like a real hobby my nigga. Like I said,

1233
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 2: I really in my brain thought I was going to NBA.

1234
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: You gotta the only reason in our brain we ain't

1235
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 2: even go overseas is because May's got deal when he

1236
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: was nineteen twenty and got two million dollars and we

1237
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 2: ain't risking it to go back to go back to school.

1238
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: So it was just like a soundtrack as far as

1239
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: high school, just in the back and you know, background

1240
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 2: for our basketball careers. We started doing it professionally. It's

1241
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: competition if once you in the game. You know, still

1242
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: to this day, you know, I'll be seeing niggas in

1243
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: New York post all type of niggas, but me, I

1244
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: won't post on you. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,

1245
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: I'm just saying because it would be like you be

1246
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,919
Speaker 2: seeing niggas that you know, post niggas from somewhere else

1247
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 2: to post somewhere else, and I'd be like, if I

1248
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 2: got a project come out, they won't post it. But

1249
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 2: if that's what we do, I fine, I'll go post

1250
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: a nigga from no Braska to that nigga, you know

1251
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So, but it's New York is you know,

1252
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: it's really a lot of competition and everything no matter

1253
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: what you do. But as far as music concerned, that's

1254
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: a in the beginning is a back out for basketball.

1255
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: When I started playing basketballs it was just trying to

1256
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: be the best rap I could be, make the best

1257
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 2: songs I could make, and track you might above water

1258
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of a lot of rappers and

1259
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: a lot of groups from New York. Acting.

1260
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 3: Payton for Dame kind of inspired me to start my

1261
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 3: acting career as well. Was he big and you starting

1262
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: to act? And how did you get that role?

1263
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like so everybody knows, like if you're from New York,

1264
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: you know that story, especially from Harlem. It's a Harlem story,

1265
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: so you know the story. And you killed that shit,

1266
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: by the way, thank you man, I appreciate it. I

1267
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: appreciate that. And so everybody's going for auditions. It's hilarious

1268
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: because I just see some auditions that Nas did on

1269
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: instagram a the other day, and dude, what's my nigga name? Damn,

1270
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: I can't think of another name. Who was who was

1271
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: trying to go for Aces part? I'm so mad. He's

1272
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: a rapper man. Nigga's nice too. I'm pissed off. I

1273
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: can't think of a nigga name because he's dope. He's dope.

1274
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: Act Most Death. Most Death was auditioning for Aces role.

1275
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 2: I just seen their audition tape. I wish I'm gonna

1276
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: tell I gotta find more audition tape whoever has that?

1277
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 2: But everybody was auditioned for it. I knew the role.

1278
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: I mean I knew the character because everybody outside the

1279
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: movie I'm from home, everybody knows the story. And when

1280
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 2: Dame gave me opportunity to come audition, and when our audition.

1281
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: It should seemed too natural because I knew it.

1282
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 2: But it was funny because I bought a real you know,

1283
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: me and Jim's in the house practicing lines, and I'm like, yes,

1284
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: I bring the real gun because it's a part. You

1285
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: gotta put a gun out on the Jim. Yeah, yeah,

1286
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: do that. So yeah, that wor the mother. So I

1287
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 2: go down there do doings. You know, we ain't doing

1288
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: no audition. You're reading with somebody that there's three people

1289
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: behind the desk and they have the cameras on something

1290
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 2: doing it and a maga, now shut the fuck up.

1291
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: Nigga say hey, hey, everybody, calm to fuck that. What's

1292
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 2: going on. I'm like, I need this part, my nigga,

1293
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 2: And Dame said, relax, care, you have to relax. I said,

1294
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: I ain't loaded the clips over here. I ain't gonna

1295
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: shoot nobody. He said, Yo, I think I'm gonna get

1296
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: you the part after that. So right, So yeah, I

1297
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: ended up doing the movie. Charles Stone directed the movie.

1298
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: So we shot eighty percent of that movie shot in Canada.

1299
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: So when we're shooting the movie, Dame is not really

1300
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 2: there on set a lot, and the clothing people had

1301
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: to ship. They going off fan magazines and all these

1302
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: magazines where they may have seen people go out for

1303
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: a night when shit for a night, but I'm like,

1304
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: they're not wearing metallic blue pants selling drugs. So you

1305
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: got a Canadian female who's doing wardrobe arguing me like,

1306
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 2: look this is what he had on the magazine. I'm like,

1307
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: I say, yo, this looked like they went to a

1308
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: dress up party. They're not selling cocaine in these joints

1309
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: right here. And Dame came Dame came back. I would

1310
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: call him and say, Yo, this shit gonna be fucked up.

1311
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: He came back, he was up to start firing everybody

1312
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: and brought mad air one Nikes and Timberlands and got

1313
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: it right. So at this time, this is kind of

1314
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 2: during the process of when I'm not really doing well

1315
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 2: and leaving, leaving Epic and going to a Rockefeller. So

1316
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 2: I'm still in the street every day at Harlem, every

1317
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: single day, and I was like, if I don't get

1318
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: this part right, it's gonna be fucked up. So they

1319
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: had lines that you supposed to read and then outside

1320
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 2: the lines. To director Charles Stone was like, care, say

1321
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: what you would say in real life if this was

1322
01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 2: the situation. So I would say seventy five days. Pep

1323
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: for saying that movie the dialogue is improv because the

1324
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 2: lines was mad corny. I mean like I would be

1325
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: reading and I would read it. I would do my

1326
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: job and say, yeah, I don't think they would really

1327
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: say that. Challs, He's like no, what's do another take?

1328
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: Say what you would say, like all that current the

1329
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: front that wasn't in the script. That shit was not

1330
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: in the script. None of that shit, you know what

1331
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying, give me extra water, all that shit. None

1332
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: of that shit was in the script. It was shit

1333
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 2: that I would say, I can't do this movie and

1334
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 2: go back home because niggas will kill me if I

1335
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 2: don't get that shit right. So that's how I took

1336
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: the movie. We had him on the show how Good

1337
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: was working with Wood, Harris oh Man, them niggas was

1338
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 2: Dope Man Boy and Maca. Because I've never done a

1339
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: movie before. That was my first time ever doing a movie,

1340
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: so they gave me a lot of insight. A lot

1341
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: of guys like even even Maca and Wood, they said,

1342
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: because we got a lot of freedom. Miki's from Harlem

1343
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 2: to was obviously did a lot of Earth movies. So

1344
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 2: when we're doing this shit, Macai was giving his two sets.

1345
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: You know there's a part where he choked out the

1346
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 2: uncle in the hall way. Yeah, but it didn't go

1347
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: like that in the movie. He just supposed to go

1348
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: and that be kind of like this shit, corny, I'm

1349
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: ana choke Homeboy out drag him out the whole year.

1350
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 2: So when he was doing that, I was like, yeah,

1351
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: that look realistic and witness pockets, Yeah yeah, yeah. So

1352
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 2: when he did it, I was like, Noah, that's the

1353
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: way it's supposed to be done. So Macay came and

1354
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: he said, this has never happened again, Cam and no movies.

1355
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 2: They don't let us get this much freedom and all

1356
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: that shit. And I'm like, what that's fucked up. So

1357
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 2: that's why I do it my own movies. I'm like, yo,

1358
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 2: I can't be listening to the niggas like if it don't

1359
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 2: seem realistic or yeah, I don't want to do it.

1360
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 2: You know a lot of movies I've done like three

1361
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 2: four movies, like right now, I was telling my niggas,

1362
01:08:56,040 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: I want to do a movie kind of like and

1363
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 2: coming to America when Eddie Murphy was like the white

1364
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 2: Nigga and the barber shop, Like you ain't know what

1365
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy told was over like not white girls because

1366
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 2: you knew that I was Marlon Wayne. Another nagme I'm

1367
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 2: talking about. I don't even want you to know it's

1368
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: me because everybody like Cam, you're not really acting you're

1369
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 2: just acting like cam you keep getting away from.

1370
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: Yourself.

1371
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, yo, I don't get no acting credit, man, I.

1372
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 3: Gotta give your credit because but that that says something

1373
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 3: about your your acting where you can be you and

1374
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 3: a lot of the best actors they act the same

1375
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 3: way in all the movies.

1376
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: But that sounds right, the same way and all that time.

1377
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 2: Don't get a fun Malcolm X, I can go dodge.

1378
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 2: But this is my nigga everywhere, and when it tells

1379
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 2: up movies, it's not. It's my nigga every other movie.

1380
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: Man ship, that's what's up.

1381
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: Uh. Backstory with the pink fur coat, the famous maybe

1382
01:09:59,320 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: very famous.

1383
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, this nigga get you can't. You gotta remove from sef.

1384
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, crunching on chips and gotta remove bear.

1385
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 2: Roussie Wallace is Joint's tough boy. Just talking about them,

1386
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: Pat love of Joints. He threw me off with pig coat. Yo.

1387
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: So we used to go to fashion Week and and

1388
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,879
Speaker 2: you know everybody do that ship now, the met galland

1389
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 2: on all types of Dame was in that ship for years,

1390
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: going to all that ship fashion for years and years

1391
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 2: and years. And I knew that I was trying to

1392
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 2: do something to stand out, and I'm like, back then,

1393
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 2: like I said, it wasn't no inter andnet and that

1394
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: that's it. Dame big Thing was like, we gotta make

1395
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 2: pay six. If you made pay six in the post,

1396
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: that means you was there with Leonard DiCaprio, Donald Trump,

1397
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 2: whoever ordered most famous people made paid six of the post.

1398
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what the fuck am I gonna do

1399
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: to make paye six? So halloming they at the store

1400
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 2: called Halem Signature that or the fly shipping there, and

1401
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, this is it. I seen that ship.

1402
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 2: They have to have been at the pink motherfucking flip phone. Uh.

1403
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 2: I say, yeah, I'm making pay six tomorrow, nigga. And

1404
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,600
Speaker 2: that's that's that's really the more the story, and that

1405
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: shit kind of took a life of his own, and

1406
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 2: you know, people be like, yo, can't bring the pink coat.

1407
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: Bring the pink coat. Like it's like I'd be on

1408
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: some asshole time poor. It's like they wanted me to

1409
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 2: bring the pink coat. They want me to bring the

1410
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 2: pink coat somewhere like three years ago, like yo, we'll

1411
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: pay you to bring the pink coat. So I'm like,

1412
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 2: all right, it need car service though I have my

1413
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 2: own call, so I said, but didn't need costs. So

1414
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,520
Speaker 2: I started doing wild ship because Niggas is so infatuated

1415
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: with the pig. I'll make that you have his own

1416
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 2: car service. Somebody pick it out. Think you still got it.

1417
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 2: I got one of them, but I don't have the

1418
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 2: main one. I just just just got, you know, I

1419
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 2: don't want to say yeah, I let the person talk

1420
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: about it, but I just just uh got ready the

1421
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 2: main one. I always had a backup, but the main

1422
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 2: main one is going. I still got the stunt double.

1423
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 3: That's one of the that's one of the keeping rappers.

1424
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 3: Rappers are a lot of rappers and use that style

1425
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 3: for video. And on Halloween, right, no, every kids, everybody

1426
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 3: dressed like Halloween.

1427
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 2: Babies on the I get tacked it on tight now

1428
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: I get tagged it on type of shit every single Halloween.

1429
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 2: About that pink coat, like they got a little baby

1430
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: wrapped in cotton candy. I think the ship was trying

1431
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: to look like the pink coats and all that shit

1432
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: look like Katton candy to me. I don't know what

1433
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 2: the ship was.

1434
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: Recently, there's been some back and forth uh, not necessarily

1435
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: them less a forward ship, but the ship with Joe.

1436
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: You posted something this morning? What's going on with that current?

1437
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: Where are we at with that? Posted it this morning?

1438
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: Like basically we can talk about I don't give a fuck,

1439
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: Like you know what happened is this man? Like you know,

1440
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 1: me and Mace on our show we talked sports, but

1441
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: we catch up on old time sometime, and we was

1442
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: talking about being in the Whole House in nineteen ninety two.

1443
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 2: I was sixteen and seventeen. They talked, I don't know

1444
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 2: how our story gets on their show. I have no idea.

1445
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 2: So they talk about us being in the Whole House

1446
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 2: and then she just jumps out the window and says,

1447
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 2: what if it was under age girls in there? Niggas?

1448
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: Was like, Yo, my nigga, this is really not the time.

1449
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: You're not from this country. Secondly, we wasn't of age.

1450
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: We shouldn't have been in there anyway. So I kind

1451
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 2: of left it alone and was like, Yo, I ain't

1452
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 2: even pay no mind, because only niggas who get rattled

1453
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: got is niggas who got some truth behind that shit guilty.

1454
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: So I didn't even pay the shit no mind. When

1455
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: I paid their mind was because I was like, I

1456
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 2: get to the bitch when I get to the bitch.

1457
01:13:53,280 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: But she tried to apologize, so I was like, nah, jobs,

1458
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: because now if I want to wait two weeks or

1459
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 2: a month or whenever, niggas are like, oh can why

1460
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 2: you bringing that up? She apologized, you know what I'm saying.

1461
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 2: So I said, fuck you and your apology, because I

1462
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 2: don't want your apology. That shit is like the lowest

1463
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: or the lower shit you're gonna accuse somebody.

1464
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: Use right now?

1465
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 2: Yes, but even if it ain't right now, I'm like,

1466
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 2: I'm not no pediphlet like.

1467
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 3: You don't have to be guilty of that for that

1468
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 3: shit to affect your life, right exactly, just insinuated exactly.

1469
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But I'm just telling you

1470
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 2: my morals as cameraon. I don't like that shit, bro,

1471
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 2: Like we had a whole shit. Actually it was a

1472
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 2: whole shit and we couldn't do it. And Charlemagne, the

1473
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 2: guy he talks about a lot, me and my man

1474
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 2: was about to do to catch the Predator show about

1475
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen years ago. I remember, I don't know, I

1476
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 2: know if y'all remember when that show though, Yeah, we

1477
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 2: were doing the black version of that shit. Catch niggas

1478
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: trying to get with kids and all that shit, but

1479
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 2: there's like killing your niggas, gonna get locked up, y'all

1480
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: don't have to permit, and all that other shit to

1481
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 2: be doing to beat niggas up and all that other shit.

1482
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: So I get offended by that ship, but like you're like,

1483
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 2: you're saying you don't in people's eyes, one person, one

1484
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 2: person says, oh you do it, you did it, Oh

1485
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: they did it. Yeah. So the whole thing is when

1486
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 2: she realized how reckless it was, she apologized. I'm like, nah,

1487
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 2: fuck your apology. Fuck you. You can't just go around

1488
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 2: say what you want and then be like yo, I

1489
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 2: was bugging for saying that. It didn't bother me in

1490
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 2: the beginning because I was like, I ain't even tripping

1491
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: off that ship. But it got me more mad about

1492
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 2: the apology. So another nigga named Queed Flipp, who was

1493
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: on his show I helped out, used to give him advice.

1494
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: I wasn't even a podcast space give him advice. I'm like, yo,

1495
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 2: if you're doing almost like television, get some ad dollars

1496
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 2: or sponsorship. And I was teaching him how to do that,

1497
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: and I wasn't even in a podcast space. He's on

1498
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,440
Speaker 2: this show and he had said some slick shit yesterday

1499
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: or the day before. Let me change that he did say. No,

1500
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 2: I thought he said some slick shit. What he said

1501
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:07,799
Speaker 2: was why nobody's standing with Melissa Ford on this topic.

1502
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 2: Where he was saying was being sarcastic, like nobody got

1503
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 2: her back. But I thought he was saying why the

1504
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 2: more people got her back? So I went on live

1505
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 2: and kind of got it everybody on the show. So

1506
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 2: I already told him, I see what that show do.

1507
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 2: Them niggas trying to bait you. So you say something

1508
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 2: and then they go back and talk about what you said.

1509
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: So basically without this morning, so let's do a quick

1510
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: rundown to this shit. Right. You get up there and say,

1511
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: I may have been fucking with young bitches, young females.

1512
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: Pardon me. I don't say nothing, So you apologize, So

1513
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 2: I say, fuck your apology and fuck all y'all niggas.

1514
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 2: And then you come back and say, no, I'm standing

1515
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 2: with Melissa for fuck that. Kim is bugging and how

1516
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: am I bugging? Yo? How am I bugging? Because I

1517
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 2: don't want to accept your apology. I'm a somebody out

1518
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 2: for trying to say I was around some bullshit like that.

1519
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 2: Why don't y'all niggas just be like, you know what,

1520
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 2: we was dead wrong And my thing wasn't they not

1521
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: doing a live show? So Joe butten let that fly.

1522
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 2: It's two things. The way I say is this, you

1523
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 2: wanted the clicks or you threw her under the bus

1524
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 2: because they ain't a live show. You could have took

1525
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 2: it out, period. So yeah, So at the end of

1526
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 2: the day, that's the rundown. And today, so today, I

1527
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 2: guess his podcast came out, which y'all see up when

1528
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 2: I posted, and he's talking about oh because I say,

1529
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 2: what if I I wasn't I'm not gonna do it.

1530
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: But I was like, what if I suit for defamation

1531
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 2: the character? He told my old thinkers ain't got no

1532
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 2: money to suit for defamation the character. I'm like, why

1533
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 2: are you defending this shit that this girl did and

1534
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: she already knew she was wrong to do it, but

1535
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 2: you still find a way to defend it. So today

1536
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 2: I put that clip up because he said, and y'all

1537
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 2: be like, and he said, yeah, this is still gonn

1538
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 2: lissen Ford, y'all be liking the cheap escorts or Instagram

1539
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: liking her pictures and this and the third, so I'm like,

1540
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 2: is she an expensive escort? Because you mad niggas is

1541
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 2: like in the cheap escort. So I put that up.

1542
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 2: And he had on a cheetah romper with sandals, and

1543
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 2: I put that up, and that's what happened. That's the

1544
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 2: whole morm. That's what happened today. I really don't want

1545
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 2: to be bothered, but y'all niggas is dad wrong and

1546
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 2: I'm not and I'm mad funny, I'm wow, funny, broom wild, funny,

1547
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 2: like like I clawn my nigga. I really would choose

1548
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 2: to leave y'all niggas alone, but y'all don't want because

1549
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: it's mad more shit I got paor like, I'd rather

1550
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 2: just not even funk with y'all because it's not even fun.

1551
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 2: It's like picking on nigga when they come to like

1552
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 2: clown and niggas, so it's on them. Hopefully they just

1553
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 2: leave me the funk alone.

1554
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 1: Will to continued.

1555
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

1556
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: The current state of the league lebron kd Steph. Some

1557
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: of these guys getting older. You think the league is

1558
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: in a good position right now.

1559
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: League is in a great position. It's about you know,

1560
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 2: we're talking about that as well. It's like to me,

1561
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: who wants to be like the next Jordan Lebron? Who

1562
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 2: wants to step up? It's great players. But I'm trying

1563
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: to trying to think that's a great question. I'm trying

1564
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 2: to think how to put it, Like do Jannis want that? Yeah?

1565
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards? You know, you know Jason, you.

1566
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 1: Know, Jason Tatum, Booker.

1567
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum Booker, joelmb Luca. You know, it's a lot,

1568
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: you know, and of course Anthony Edwards too. But you

1569
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: gotta want it, you know what I'm saying, You gotta

1570
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 2: want that. You gotta be like, Yo, this is this mine,

1571
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like as much as as

1572
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 2: much as he never bet Jordan, but when Alan Imson

1573
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: walked in the league, like yo, I'm here, nigga, Like you

1574
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Yeah, where's that at? Where's like? Yo, Yo,

1575
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: this is my dance floor too, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1576
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 2: where's that at? And I'm not mad at players having

1577
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: karateie and being cool and everything else, but y'all. Niggas know, y'all, niggas,

1578
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 2: I ain't speak to my niggas for weeks if I

1579
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 2: lost the niggas and they might have been that Yeah, yeah,

1580
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So you know what I'm saying,

1581
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: nigga beat from with Kobe and all type of ship.

1582
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: Y'all niggas know, Like I'm not saying, go out there

1583
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: and start beating niggas up. But where's the niggas who's

1584
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 2: mad that they didn't lose that lost? You know what,

1585
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 2: I'm niggas be able to smile like yo, yo, it's

1586
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: been great now. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1587
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 2: Let me ask you all a question real quick? Who

1588
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 2: do you think is the best American player? We just

1589
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 2: we just asked LaMarcus Aswers that question last okay, Yeah,

1590
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 2: we said shoot it over with the best America.

1591
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 1: Right now current. I think with Lebron stepping away soon,

1592
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: I think it's Jason Tatum right now, at this moment.

1593
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 2: Is Jason Tatum? I think?

1594
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: I think so. I think Anthony Edwards a booker in

1595
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: that conversation.

1596
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 2: But I think still better stuff right now. I'm going

1597
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 2: best right right now, right this very second. Yeah, Steph Curry,

1598
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: Steph Curry. Good point, that's what I brought him. Mother,

1599
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: Just stuff in there.

1600
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: Because I'm thinking older, like I'm thinking next. Yeah, yeah,

1601
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: Steph another three four years, three, four or five.

1602
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: Years three at the most. I think Steph. I was

1603
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 2: just about to say he's gonna cruise one. I just,

1604
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 2: I just I think I give Steph four more years

1605
01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 2: and if if niggas helpful, I gotta.

1606
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 1: I got a question for you, responsibility as a fan

1607
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: of the game and and and understanding the sport. If

1608
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: you're in the position of Golden State's management, do you

1609
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: ride the respect wave with with Draymond and Clay until

1610
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: Steph is done? Or do you try to put the

1611
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: best team out there possible until Steph is done, meaning

1612
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: that you may have to trade a Draymond or a

1613
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson.

1614
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: I think that's why they, gentlemen mans your left last year,

1615
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 2: because he don't want to be in that position to

1616
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Nigga, like, man, this is

1617
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 2: good camp ye your ship boy, that's good. That's good.

1618
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 2: Like that's good, that's good right there, that nigga said,

1619
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the one to do this ship.

1620
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm leaving man, So man comeing this motherfucker space and

1621
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: make his niggas respect you come on with this ship. Man.

1622
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 2: That was at That was a hot take you just said, Bro,

1623
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 2: I ain't never heard nobody say it like that. That

1624
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 2: was dope. Yeah, that's a fact because that nigga. You

1625
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 2: know that nigga. I ain't saying he capping when Katie

1626
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 2: towards the kid, He's crying and I think he genuinely

1627
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: funcks with that whole crew, but he no, tough decisions

1628
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 2: are about to have to be made, and he like,

1629
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the one to do it,

1630
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,839
Speaker 2: so he stepped down. As far as the new yeah,

1631
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 2: that's a fact. But as far as the new, uh,

1632
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 2: Gentlealman's concerned. Look the way it's looking now my opinion

1633
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 2: to answer your question, it's about money everything. You know.

1634
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 2: When I say about money, Clay, you don't look like

1635
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 2: you're getting no Max nigga. This don't look good, bro,

1636
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 2: This do not look good. Bro. If they didn't give

1637
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: it Jordan, Yeah, That's what I'm saying. But you know

1638
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 2: it ain't it ain't this what they ain't what you

1639
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 2: did yesterday is what you're gonna do for me next?

1640
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 2: And I know Clay won a max contract or at

1641
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 2: least close to the max, but only nigga playing max

1642
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: basketball Golden State is Steph Curry. You know, you gotta realize,

1643
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 2: even though it was a fucked up situation as far

1644
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 2: as the footage getting out, as far as Draymond uh

1645
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: snuffing Jordan Pool or whatever, they just get that nigga

1646
01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 2: like one thirty for Chris Paul as much as I think,

1647
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 2: you know, we have Chris Paul hard timent show, but

1648
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 2: I fuck with Chris Paul, but you give away your

1649
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: future because the chemistry or the caaraderie in the locker

1650
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 2: room wasn't right. You know that nigga, him and Andrew Wiggins.

1651
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: That was the two niggas hanging out all the time

1652
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 2: because they was at that age group of the younger

1653
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,440
Speaker 2: players that wasn't there for the first couple of championships

1654
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 2: that they went to. To me, the answer question, I think

1655
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 2: they're gonna ride with these niggas to the wheels falls off.

1656
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's smart or not, but I

1657
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 2: think that's where ownership is at. I think that's where

1658
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 2: that Steve curR is at and honestly new management. But

1659
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 2: I do it. I don't know. It's about how much

1660
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 2: I can get Clay for right now.

1661
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 3: He still got time to turn it around though, still,

1662
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 3: and that's the only thing right he still got time

1663
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 3: to turn around.

1664
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: Play Finn. Listen, I'm not sitting here bad mouth no way.

1665
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 2: You asked me a question. I'm telling you. I do

1666
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 2: it on my show. I know niggas be mad, but

1667
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 2: you gotta tell the truth, bro, And niggas just got

1668
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: twenty young. I think three games go the first time

1669
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 2: somebody got more than twenty besides stuff Curry. It's the

1670
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 2: first fifteen six games. Nobody got more than twenty points

1671
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 2: on the Golden State Warriors, which is absolutely freaking ridiculous. Bro.

1672
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 2: We had yeah, but I'm saying for the first fifteen games,

1673
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 2: nobody gets twenty points besides Steph Curry Clay. I like Clay.

1674
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 2: I think his injuries fucked up his defense because he's

1675
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 2: a good two way player, you know. Uh, And now

1676
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: it's starting to get mental. When you're a shooter, that

1677
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 2: shit could get really mental and you're not knocking shots down.

1678
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: Now you got niggas talking like last year when he

1679
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 2: came back off injury, Clay Clay act like he don't

1680
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: be paying attention, But he pay attention. You know, he

1681
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 2: get mad at Charles Buckley and uh, you know, Kenny

1682
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 2: Smith and them niggas up there because they'll say something

1683
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 2: about him, like, damn, give me a chance to get

1684
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: back in rhythm. Fuck them niggas. Focus on what you

1685
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: gotta do to get back to where you had. A

1686
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 2: lot of players act like they not listening, but niggas

1687
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 2: be listening. Yeah right now. To me my personal opinion,

1688
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm a Clay Fair. I think whatever injuries he had

1689
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 2: is fucking up his lateral movement because he was running

1690
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 2: the best defensive players in the league at a time

1691
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: and now he's not. You know, even last year when

1692
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 2: he's getting all that ship in Memphis, you know, you

1693
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 2: let them niggas get under his skin. You're throwing up

1694
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 2: the four rings and niggas. You let Devin Booker get

1695
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 2: under your skin. You're letting these young niggas get under

1696
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 2: your skin. And they want your spot, nigga, They want

1697
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 2: your spot. Nigga. You got you got something of the

1698
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 2: niggas want, so I think you gotta get clear of

1699
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: the discount. Y'all are right, It's plenty of basketball left,

1700
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 2: but at this rate, it ain't gonna happen. Hopefully he

1701
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 2: does turn it around.

1702
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: Now, hopefully does quick hit his first thing to come

1703
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: to mind, let us know, top five n y C

1704
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: hoopers of all time?

1705
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: Ever? Could we throw Carmelo and Jordan said, yeah, y'all

1706
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 2: go with Kareem ab dude, your ball first, tiny archer

1707
01:26:54,960 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 2: ball second, Yes, sir, tiny yalla ball, Stephan Marlburry. I

1708
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 2: would go somebody ain't thinking about and somebody I'm not

1709
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: thinking about.

1710
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: King from He's.

1711
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 2: From New York and now Yeah, mm hmmm. I don't

1712
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 2: got to the n b A. It could be anybody.

1713
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:20,759
Speaker 1: Anybody.

1714
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 2: Oh, I've never seen Pee Wee play, so but I'll

1715
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 2: be hearing about the man. You know, they his his

1716
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 2: legend stories be out of coming out. Yeah, it's just

1717
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 2: be crazy. Doctor J. He's from long Allen. Yeah, Doctor J.

1718
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 2: I never seen Earl Manigat play neither. So who I

1719
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 2: got Stephan R. Marlbury, Kareem or Georgia ball Archiball, Doctor J.

1720
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 2: Doctor J. And I would go with fucking I go

1721
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 2: with Ali. Yeah, Yeah, that's one of my fast basketball players.

1722
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 2: He could do it all. Who's your childhood crush? Childhood

1723
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 2: crush too? Uh we say child like it could be

1724
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen, yeah, yeah, teen years. So I'll tell you

1725
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: real quick story. So I love Holly Berry right. So

1726
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 2: one day I'm at the this is I was just

1727
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 2: getting a record deal. So we just got to finished

1728
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: playing basketball in LA and I'm sweaty. He's in a

1729
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: fifteen passer Evan. I wasn't playing like trying to go

1730
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 2: to the league. We're just playing ball. I'm at the

1731
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 2: ATM and niggas just like, yo, it's Holly buried next

1732
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: to you. I got no haircut on, no shirt er

1733
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 2: in the LA. Yoah, let me talk to you real quick.

1734
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: She's like no, no, no, no, no, no, you have

1735
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: to relax. I'm like, hear me out, hear me out.

1736
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 2: So she walked into her car man fast and I'm

1737
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 2: following them. But I had a cassette tape. My promo

1738
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: was cassette tapes at the time before Seeas came out.

1739
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 2: So I'm at least let me just give you my tape.

1740
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 2: So she rode the window theren this was it was

1741
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 2: a nigga in the passenger see laid back. I slid

1742
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 2: the ship through there and gave her my fucking uh

1743
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 2: my promotion. It wasn't my album. It's one of them

1744
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 2: ships we got like the snippet songs on that Yeah,

1745
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 2: so I gave her that shiit. So like six years later,

1746
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 2: I'm platinum and all this other shit. I'm at the American,

1747
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: the Music American, the Music Awards, and I'm in there

1748
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 2: with man niggas, Nelly in there. I'm in there with

1749
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 2: fucking Tyson back for Laurence Tate, Laurence Tate, all these

1750
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 2: people coming out to michiam. I love you so sate, like, Yo,

1751
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 2: my nigga, I fuck with you, nigga. You one of

1752
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 2: my favorite Yo. You my nigga. Yo. For years you know,

1753
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 2: I was me and the passage to see what Holly

1754
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 2: when you slipped up right there, I said, that was shoot,

1755
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 2: my nigga. I sent the bitch to ATM go grab

1756
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 2: a couple of dollars and she don't not grabbed the

1757
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 2: CD out the bitch here and you don't know what

1758
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 2: the fuck this isn't yo, nobody else knows this story.

1759
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: That was fu.

1760
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: That's crazy, bro, that was razy damn.

1761
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 2: My second one was Jane and Jacknie my second crush

1762
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 2: Janet Jacknie, porn Star, pawn starf Yeah yeah, got on

1763
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 2: the night stuff Jane and Jacknie Ship.

1764
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 1: How did you feel them? Not not street money when

1765
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 1: you first got your first big music money? Would you

1766
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 1: spend that first check on.

1767
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 2: My grandmother a Rolex? I ain't even buying no house

1768
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:38,759
Speaker 2: or not. I just bought my I'll standing my grandma

1769
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 2: for a while. I bought a Rolex and some ear rings.

1770
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 2: That first thing I bought myself anything. First thing you

1771
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 2: do in the morning, last thing you do at night.

1772
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 2: First thing during the morning, brush my teeth and drink

1773
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 2: some tea. Uh, turned on sports to see what's going on.

1774
01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 2: And then at night I smoked some weed and listen

1775
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 2: to music and ship trying about catch a vibe. You know,

1776
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 2: girls around, try and get girls definitely person foremost every

1777
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 2: night before anything else.

1778
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 1: Five dinner guess dead are alive? You plus five at

1779
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 1: the dinner table.

1780
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 2: At the dinner table, I go, you know, I go.

1781
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 2: People that I didn't meet that I want to meet

1782
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 2: I haven't met. I want to have Eddie Murphy. I'm

1783
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 2: a big Larry David fan. My days like my favorite nigga. Damn,

1784
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 2: y'all have some good questions you like, Hey, you like

1785
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 2: sarcastic niggas. Larry David, he's Larry David, Like yo, like nigga,

1786
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 2: that's the only nigga. I was fucking fan out that

1787
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 2: niggas fucking hilarious show, super larious. Who else would I

1788
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 2: saying with? Because I kind of met everybody I want

1789
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 2: to meet? Who's some cool niggas? That's cool? I don't

1790
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 2: really know a lot of cool niggas.

1791
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 3: They pick pick pick somebody that's that's that's that's dead

1792
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 3: that you want to have dinner with?

1793
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 2: Who's dead? Like, well, I picked the niggas I love,

1794
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 2: like my cousin Bloodshed or big Al and Biggie Smalls

1795
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 2: say that that's a good one.

1796
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 3: And my mom, you know, mom, one guess who would

1797
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 3: you like to see on All the Smoke? But but

1798
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 3: you have to help us get your answer on the show.

1799
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 2: Explain that who would you like to see on All

1800
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 2: the Smoke?

1801
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 3: But but you have to help us get your answer

1802
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 3: on the show.

1803
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 1: So somebody you know, somebody in your phone?

1804
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 2: Oh okay, oh my answer you on the show. I'm

1805
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 2: not gonna says, gonna treat y'all like the deeds, and

1806
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 2: he's gonna treaty' all like your investigation, not talking about that.

1807
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 2: I get somebody like an open book. Did you have

1808
01:32:54,960 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 2: Jada kiss Hip kiss kiss Your kiss is fucking like

1809
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 2: this is underrated, super funny nigga. I've been in the

1810
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 2: studio with it. Yeah, that's because his personality sometimes doesn't

1811
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:17,919
Speaker 2: come across. Uh oh j Simpson the juice, the juice.

1812
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 2: But we got to clear with nobody. We own this ship.

1813
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: But you know, he said he can't come to l

1814
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 1: A because he might be sitting at the next to

1815
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: the nigga that did this.

1816
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 2: We have to do it somewhere else. We have to

1817
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 2: do it. Hey, look look I gave y'all an answer

1818
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 2: and the number in my phone that's yeah.

1819
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we appreciate that. Two things before you get out

1820
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 1: of your one. We want to do a collapse show

1821
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 1: with y'all somewhere make some money.

1822
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,680
Speaker 2: Let's go get it. What it is is that like

1823
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 2: we still be outing shows and ship like on the weekends,

1824
01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 2: we still be booked, like MA had to show this

1825
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 2: weekend and uh, that's why he could. We want to

1826
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 2: do the collide with you all this weekend. But I

1827
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 2: knew y'all was in town for the for the nbation,

1828
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 2: so I didn't want to miss the opportunity Sanwich, especially

1829
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 2: being this nigga talk all the time and uh be

1830
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 2: giving each other information back and forth. So I ain't

1831
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 2: never want to seem like I ain't want another sit

1832
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 2: Downwich all niggas, So I made him my business to stay.

1833
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 2: Now you already know I would have. I would have

1834
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 2: went home too, uh this weekend because sometimes we got

1835
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 2: shows and we still book like and Mason's book this weekend.

1836
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 2: But as soon as possible it might gotta be uh,

1837
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:35,879
Speaker 2: I would say, uh, probably towards the end of January,

1838
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: because May's still gonna be on is what it is.

1839
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 2: But he's gonna be via sidell like he has. Uh.

1840
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 2: He's going on tour in Australia for three weeks in January,

1841
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 2: right right, Yeah, I ain't gonna I'm saying I ain't

1842
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 2: getting paid Mason. Mason's going to the press all the money.

1843
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 2: I'm unreasonable too, had a driver for me. Yeah, I

1844
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 2: mean with y'all niggas were gonna work it out for sure,

1845
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 2: definitely good. I'm I'm the U over here on this. Yeah,

1846
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 2: that's the fact. But yeah, if it makes sense that

1847
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 2: absolutely you'll realized Australia like a twenty five hour play ride. Yeah,

1848
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 2: so yeah, you're gonna for three minutes. Listen. Let me

1849
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 2: tell you. Mason's unreasonable, y'all to realize MAS make a

1850
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 2: lot of money outside of this show. The show me

1851
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 2: doing that nigga, he's on zoom calls every day. You know,

1852
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 2: the God God has blessed him. Yeah, hell say that.

1853
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 2: He's trending right now. So he just dropped it on

1854
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 2: the concert he had last night. He did a dough freestyle. Okay,

1855
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 2: it's blowing up right now. Yeah, that nigga may still

1856
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 2: couple a couple of names and distance he throwing that

1857
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 2: in the freestyle. Yeah, this jamming too. I know what

1858
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 2: he talked about with them cameras they knowing. I don't

1859
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 2: even know what's going on. But yeah, y'all figuring it

1860
01:35:58,240 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 2: out and give me to Australia.

1861
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,639
Speaker 1: Cool, but I'm not We could do somewhere in the States. Yeah,

1862
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 1: it is fine to do a show. But before we

1863
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 1: get you out of it, man, we just wanted to

1864
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:08,680
Speaker 1: give you your flowers. Man, like what you guys have

1865
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: been able to do. Obviously, your music career speaks for

1866
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,640
Speaker 1: itself what you did in the stance you made in that,

1867
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 1: but your crossover in this space and you brought a

1868
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 1: new angle, some new energy, some new ship talk, and

1869
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: some ship that everyone could really turn into, tune into,

1870
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 1: and the ship that we're really saying, like we can't

1871
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 1: say some of the ship y'all say, and we off

1872
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 1: the hook. So we appreciate you all being and make

1873
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Speaker 1: a lane for it.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I'll watch you guys before we even

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Speaker 2: thought about doing this, and I'm like, this is dope ship,

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Speaker 2: but like that, what's the money? Like that was always

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Speaker 2: what I used to think about it. I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 2: because I'm not talking just y'all, I'm like, yo, I

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Speaker 2: didn't never know what was going on in this space.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, there's a lot of people just turning

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Speaker 2: MIC's on. Bro. It is, Yeah, Yeah, that's the thing

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Speaker 2: about it. It's right now with some fucking mad quantity

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Speaker 2: over quality. Yes, and I'm inequality, But thank you guys

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Speaker 2: for what you're doing and making me want to do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I appreciate you, bro, but thank you man.

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Speaker 1: That's a rap right there, The one and only can

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Speaker 1: Killer Can Man. You can catch this, you know where

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Speaker 1: you can catch this, And we're gonna see y'all next week.

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Speaker 2: All the Smoke Productions