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Speaker 1: offseason acquisition. Nineteen sixty nine draft right January February nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty nine, when OJ was first overall pick, and the

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Speaker 1: Builds have had a couple of first overall picks. None

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Speaker 1: quite the splash of oj Simpson. What do you think

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Speaker 1: what's been the biggest offseason splash that you recall in

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Speaker 1: Bill's history. Maybe it was signing Terall Owens, we got

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Speaker 1: him on the show coming up at one o'clock today.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was signing Mario Williams. Maybe there's something else

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Speaker 1: we're not thinking of, Kelly Simpson, something else. Give us

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Speaker 1: a call eight O three fifty toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty, Send it a tweet for

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet at one Bill's Live. We're here until

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Speaker 1: three o'clock today. Take a phone call now from Tony

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Speaker 1: in his car. Hello, Tony around the air, go ahead, Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: how are you? Thanks for taking my call? Sure you

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Speaker 1: know there is a way that the Tills and Bucks

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Speaker 1: could beat That would be in the Super Bowl. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Both games have up are good a chance as any

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Speaker 1: other to make that actually happen, And it wouldn't. If

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Speaker 1: the Bills could sneak out a win in that game,

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Speaker 1: it would make up for all the victories that Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady ever got against us. I think that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think the Bills and Bucks.

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Speaker 1: If the Bills and Bucks face each other in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, which by the way, I believe is in

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Speaker 1: Tampa right this year, the Bucks would have home field. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that would make up for Brady's what thirty one

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Speaker 1: and thirty two and three record against the Bills, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 1: If the Bills meet Brady in the Super Bowl? Well,

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Speaker 1: all right, there you go. Tony's the first one. He

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Speaker 1: said it. He's speaking into existence, right. Yeah, that'd be

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Speaker 1: awesome and it'd be that and how fitting for Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady to be the first quarterback to have a home

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Speaker 1: game in a Super Bowl. That's swine. But but yeah,

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Speaker 1: they could meet and you're right, that's there's There's got

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Speaker 1: a good a chance as anybody, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: Both of those guys. Both these clubs feel like they've

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Speaker 1: got good teams put together. There's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: said Tom Brady should land in Tampa Bay. He makes

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Speaker 1: him a contender right away. Uh, the Bills in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs last year, take a deep end and put together

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Speaker 1: a couple of if they can get to the playoffs again,

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Speaker 1: put together a hot streak. Yeah, it's not out of

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Speaker 1: the realm of possibilities, no question. As it is forever

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Speaker 1: all the other thirty teams. But yeah, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: to be said for that. That's pretty funny. If you

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Speaker 1: want to see Tom Brady one last time, let's do

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Speaker 1: it when he's playing in Tampa Bay for the Bucks

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Speaker 1: and the Bills get to the Super Bowl against him.

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Speaker 1: That'd be nice. Tony Goes on the record is the

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Speaker 1: first guy to mention. He called it. He called it

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Speaker 1: good point. So we'll talk about this all day, about

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Speaker 1: Grogkowski going to the Bucks and about the Bills their

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Speaker 1: biggest offseason splash move. What was it? Somebody sending a tweet.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the tweet, cheating the moment, somebody sending

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Speaker 1: a tweet the signing of Sean McDermott as head coach.

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Speaker 1: Can I say this? I don't think that qualifies. Look,

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Speaker 1: when they signed Sean McDermott league wide, he was a

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Speaker 1: virtual unknown, Right, we're talking about an offseason splash. They

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Speaker 1: got everybody in the league saying WHOA when they signed

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. And I think he's a great head coach.

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Speaker 1: But when they signed him, I think around the league

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Speaker 1: most people were shrugging and saying, huh, okay, good for Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: A good coach or whatever. Right, I don't think that

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Speaker 1: was a splash. I don't think it was a splash. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: most people are like, yeah, we'll see you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that's right. Hard to know, it's easy to say

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Speaker 1: after the fact. Certainly there's at this point in history,

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Speaker 1: is not too many that were more important than he

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Speaker 1: has been turning it around pretty quickly to go to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs his first year after seventeen years where they

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Speaker 1: couldn't make it by hook or crook, and he does

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Speaker 1: it with a roster that they got accused of tanking with.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty big. That's pretty big. So yeah, he's certainly

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Speaker 1: important in a historic figure now, But that wasn't a

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Speaker 1: big splash, No more than the five coaches who were

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Speaker 1: hired this year, right, that's right. Hey. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Sean and his wife Jamie are doing a charitable initiative

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Speaker 1: to benefit the coronavirus relief. They're providing five hundred meals

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Speaker 1: from the restaurant the Grange in Hamburg, the hospital workings

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo General Hospital and ECMC good for them, and

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Speaker 1: the list of charitable endeavors by the Bill's staff and

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Speaker 1: not just players and coaches. By the way, the staff,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing. Jerry Hughes and his wife Megan providing

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Speaker 1: five hundred meals of Buffalo Police and fire departments and

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Speaker 1: Mr Again through the grain. So good for them. But

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Speaker 1: I said, Steve, it's more than just players and coaches.

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Speaker 1: The whole staff has really come out strong to help

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Speaker 1: with COVID nineteen relief. I think from what I've detected, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been it's been widespread and very welcomes. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's a little bit of a symptom

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Speaker 1: of the culture that mcdermot's installed here, so I think

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Speaker 1: it permeates everything they do. That's right. So that's the

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Speaker 1: show today. Dave Moore coming up in a moment Terrell

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Speaker 1: Owens at one Kevin Clark, writer for The Ringer or two.

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Speaker 1: What else you got, Steve, anything you want to talk about?

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Speaker 1: You good? I'm kind of good. It's kind of the

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Speaker 1: same deal as yesterday. Though it started snowing and now

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Speaker 1: the sunshine and I am so when is the weather

521
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: gonna forget about the quarantine? I just want the weather.

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Speaker 1: I know this has been a bad I don't know

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Speaker 1: whether I've noticed it more or what but I think

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Speaker 1: being in a house and not and having free time

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Speaker 1: during the day that you don't normally have kind of

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Speaker 1: let me go outside. Well, I haven't been able to

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Speaker 1: because of the weather, and it's that's been kind of

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Speaker 1: the adding insult to injury. Right, So can I make

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Speaker 1: that I'm interested in what you say about this team.

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Speaker 1: We gotta get to a break care. But let me

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Speaker 1: make this quarantine observation talking to well, I've mentioned this

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Speaker 1: to my son and his wife, and you know, they've

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Speaker 1: got a ten month old baby. And over the weekend

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Speaker 1: it occurred to me that ten month old has had

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Speaker 1: a month while six weeks now of constant twenty four

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Speaker 1: hour attention from his parents, then normally he would not

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Speaker 1: get he will benefit from that. I'm looking at silver

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Speaker 1: linings from the quarantine. I was talking to a friend

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Speaker 1: of mine owns a restaurant up in Lockport, and she

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Speaker 1: was talking about how your kids came home from college

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Speaker 1: and from their jobs out of town and now they're

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Speaker 1: all working at the restaurant and getting along and everybody's

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Speaker 1: having fun and they you know, they're limited obviously business

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Speaker 1: to doing. But she said, this is not something we

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Speaker 1: would have done had it not been from the quarantine.

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Speaker 1: My point is there are unanticipated silver linings coming up

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Speaker 1: as a result of the quarantine, and I'm starting to

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Speaker 1: look I want to get out of this, but I'm

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Speaker 1: starting to embrace it and look around at things that

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Speaker 1: are happening that would not have happened if we weren't

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Speaker 1: all quarantined at home. You know what I'm saying. We

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Speaker 1: have We've got yeah, I know exactly what you mean.

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Speaker 1: We've got brand new grand babies. Of course we haven't

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Speaker 1: seen them yet, haven't been in person with him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we looked through the window at the twins, and then

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Speaker 1: we've got the other one that was born just a

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Speaker 1: month before the twins were So and they've got three

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Speaker 1: So and I my older son who's got three children already,

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Speaker 1: a four or two and a zero. You know, they've

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Speaker 1: made the observation their kids are thriving, Yeah, because of

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Speaker 1: the extra attention. Now they're not even school age yet, right,

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Speaker 1: So you got to think that the family dynamics, hopefully

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Speaker 1: for most people there, they've been enhanced. Obviously, there are

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Speaker 1: some some people that it's not a great situation, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you do look for yeah, J Jay Harris and his

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Speaker 1: family been sequestered. Jay sitting in his living room five

567
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Speaker 1: hours a day producing The Instigators and then our show.

568
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Speaker 1: His kids are looking at him sideways, but not every

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Speaker 1: It hasn't been great for everybody, but for a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, and I think for us as well. You

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Speaker 1: kind of spend everything positive if you can, and for

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Speaker 1: us the grandkid, for the grandkids, it's been a positive thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been pretty cool. All right. The Draft is coming up,

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Speaker 1: but before that, we got the big move yesterday with

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Speaker 1: the Rob Gronkowski going to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be on the line with Dave Moore, former

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Speaker 1: Bills tight end, former NFL tight end and Tampa Bay

578
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Speaker 1: Buccaneers call our analysts to discuss when we return. So

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Speaker 1: come on back for that One does Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalaida Health Radio only today, Steves at the Home. I'm

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Speaker 1: at home. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. What do you

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Speaker 1: think this is gonna look like in Tampa Bay? As

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Speaker 1: as Rob Gronkowski, Tom Brady, You're gonna be reunited. Do

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Speaker 1: you think we're gonna talk to Rob Moore in a

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Speaker 1: minute or Dave Moore? I'm sorry, Dave Moore in a minute.

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Speaker 1: I really I'm fascinated by the dynamic of bringing a

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Speaker 1: guy of Tom Brady's casche and Gronkowski's casche into the

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Speaker 1: room as an offensive coordinator and trying to incorporate those guys. First,

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Speaker 1: you got to evaluate where Gronky is physically, and then

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Speaker 1: try and work your offense into as something that Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady can be effective. And what do you think? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, as I know, I trashed um a little

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Speaker 1: bit trash Bruce Arians first segment. I will say this,

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Speaker 1: he is a capable offensive coach. More than capable. He's

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Speaker 1: a very good offensive coach. And if Gronkowski stays healthy,

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Speaker 1: which I do think is a big, big question Steve.

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Speaker 1: But if he stays healthy and he and Brady will

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Speaker 1: have the shorthand approach I think to offense, they don't

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Speaker 1: know what they're doing, right, they'll know how to make

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Speaker 1: big plays and I think they'll know what I think

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Speaker 1: they'll be fine. To be honest, I think they really

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Speaker 1: will be fine, don't you. I think they'll have a

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Speaker 1: way to you know, communicate and a way to get

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Speaker 1: the right place called after doing it for so long, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think Arians has got a real reputation for being

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Speaker 1: able able to get the most out of a veteran guy.

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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer comes to mind, all those guys. He knows

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Speaker 1: how to handle a quarterback. I think Brady is really

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Speaker 1: gonna thrive under that, at least emotionally and mentally. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's physically gonna thrive. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's got that much left in the tank, But

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Speaker 1: I think it's really gonna be a breath of fresh

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Speaker 1: air for Brady with the offense of the Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers being run by Bruce Arius. So last Dave More

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Speaker 1: when he comes on and see what he thinks about it.

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Speaker 1: Dave Moore is with US Tampa Bay Buccaneers Color Amdall

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Speaker 1: is former NFL tight end for fifteen seasons. Spent three

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Speaker 1: years with the Buffalo Bills, went to the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: in six Happy to add with us day More. Hello, Dave,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy's team taker up Buffalo. Thanks coming on, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: how you doing? We're doing well? Has there ever been

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Speaker 1: what three week period in the off season as stunningly

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Speaker 1: exciting as the last three for Tampa Bay? Dave, what

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Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah? I would say not you know,

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Speaker 1: I got here nineteen ninety two originally, and I can

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Speaker 1: tell you they haven't necessarily always been real active, you know,

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Speaker 1: in free agency, and this year in particular, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of an anomaly with all of the available veteran quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: which is something you don't see very often, and the

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Speaker 1: obviously Tom Brady nine super Bowls and his resume having

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to get him here, so you know, he

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Speaker 1: can see. They're clearly feeling alike. They have certain pieces

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Speaker 1: in place and have a chance to make a run

634
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Speaker 1: at it. And now they're you know, they're trying to

635
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: get more guys, key guys to help them get where

636
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: they want to go. One of the things about him

637
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: last year was if if Jamis Winston doesn't turn it

638
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: over so much, they have a much better season, or

639
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: at least you'd think that that would be the case.

640
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: How good are they without those two guys, Well, that's

641
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: a good question. I mean Jamis, you know, he drew

642
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: for over five thousand yards. I mean, he broke some

643
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: NFL records on the positive side, and of course you

644
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: know all time leading single season interception record he broke

645
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: as well. So he's a guy that we drive you

646
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: crazy calling the games. You get so exciting to make

647
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: some tremendous throws. He'd keep plays a live and you know,

648
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: to you know his style of play. He is that

649
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: guy that is going to take some chances even when

650
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: he should not. And I think Bruce arians got to

651
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: the point that, you know, if you would cut down

652
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: on those interceptions, the whole season looks completely different. So

653
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: for them to go out obviously and completely change directions

654
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: and then get a guy that's you know, up in

655
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Speaker 1: years like Tom Brady at forty two to come in

656
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: and get an older tight end to come in and

657
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: they feel like they need to win now and win big.

658
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Speaker 1: So I'm sure that's what the driving force was in

659
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Speaker 1: making a change. Live would Dave Moore a couple of

660
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: analysts on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers radio network, Dave, we

661
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: were a debate. We were wondering, actually you may know

662
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: or maybe not, who initiated the first contact with Gronkowski.

663
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Speaker 1: Was this the Tom Brady thing or a Rob Gronkowski thing?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? It's a good question. You know

665
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Speaker 1: you've seen some little things they earlier in the offseason.

666
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Speaker 1: You heard that Oj Howard was you know, a guy

667
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: that would be on the training block or a potential

668
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Speaker 1: and then you know they came back and to know,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're going to stick and then stick with OJ.

670
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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, recently you've heard again

671
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: OJ's name come up. So you almost were wondering when

672
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Speaker 1: they initially had the reports on social media and stuff

673
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Speaker 1: that Rob Grownkowski did not necessarily dismissed the idea coming back,

674
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Speaker 1: So I think that's what prompted people to think about

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Speaker 1: how legitimate that was. I would imagine that you know,

676
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Speaker 1: Jason White had a conversation with Tom Brady and I'm

677
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: probably reached out to his old buddy, and Jason Light

678
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: who came from New England originally, probably reached out there

679
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Speaker 1: to see if it was something that was even viable

680
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: because the Patriots still had his rights, so not cherylf O. J.

681
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Speaker 1: Howard might have been part of that initially or not.

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Speaker 1: But I think really just the idea. Somebody through the

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Speaker 1: idea in front of Gronkowski and he didn't dismiss it,

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Speaker 1: so it kind of raised the eyebrows of some people

685
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Speaker 1: and that's probably what got it go. And who contacted who,

686
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Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. I would guess it was the

687
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Speaker 1: Bucks trying to feel out New England to see if

688
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Speaker 1: they would release his rights to have the opportunity to

689
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Speaker 1: trade for him. So, but you know, regardless, it's a

690
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: busing for the Bucks for sure. What about the Bucks offense,

691
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: and certainly they had some positive a lot of positive.

692
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Speaker 1: You said they threw for five thousand yards, but the

693
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: thirty interceptions takes away from it. They've got the fourteenth

694
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Speaker 1: pick of the draft. Are they going to go to

695
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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. What kind of weapons

696
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Speaker 1: do they have around Tom Brady and what about his

697
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Speaker 1: offensive line? Well, wide receiver, you have two Pro Bowl

698
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Speaker 1: wide receivers. You have Chris Godwin and Mike Evans, both

699
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: big guys, physical. I think Chris Godwin led the league

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Speaker 1: in yards after contact his ability to brent tackles and

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Speaker 1: gain yards. And you know, camera Brad's pretty good tight

702
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Speaker 1: end or receiving tight end. Obviously, Oj Howard, a first

703
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: round pick, has some potential. You also have Scottie Miller,

704
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: who's a young burner type guy, smaller but can get

705
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Speaker 1: down to feel quickly to force the defense to cover

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Speaker 1: the entire field. So you have some weapons. The big

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Speaker 1: thing is offensive line is getting up in years, or

708
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Speaker 1: right tackle Donovan Smith. You know, he's a twelve year

709
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: guy now, and so the question is going to be

710
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Speaker 1: are they gonna try to train it up and get

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Speaker 1: an offensive tackle? Can they get one sitting at fourteen?

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00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: And then obviously they're gonna need some depth at defense.

713
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: They got a bunch of defensive backs. They signed back

714
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: three of the four defensive lineman they wanted to put

715
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: the linebacker position, they probably need some depth. They had

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Speaker 1: Devin White, who was the first round pick last year,

717
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: and also Lavante David who's an outstanding linebacker. But outside

718
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Speaker 1: of that, they're going to need some depth in that

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Speaker 1: area as well. So my guess would be offensive line

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Speaker 1: is probably the thing that you want to address first

721
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Speaker 1: because you can have all the weapons in the world

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Speaker 1: and a great quarterback, but if you can't protect them,

723
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Speaker 1: it's not going to do you a whole lot of goods.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure that's an area where they have a

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Speaker 1: starting offensive line back from last year, but they're going

726
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Speaker 1: to need to incorporate some young guys in there in

727
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Speaker 1: case of injuries, and obviously to move into those roles eventually.

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Speaker 1: Dave Moore is Colorado is of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

729
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: radio network. Dave Gronkowski, over his last three years there

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Speaker 1: in New England, missed a total of thirteen games. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's had a variety of ailments back issues, primarily. How

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Speaker 1: much of a concern should that be for the Bucks

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Speaker 1: at this stage? I mean maybe they could argue, hey,

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Speaker 1: he's head a year off, he should be good to go,

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00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: right as ever they're leaning on there. Well, that's one way,

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Speaker 1: and that's certainly a positive. I know that I played

737
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: for fifteen years. It was never an injury reserve guy,

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Speaker 1: but you never really have enough time in the offseason

739
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: to truly heals. So obviously taken a year off my

740
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Speaker 1: first year off when I retired, I felt pretty darn

741
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Speaker 1: good after a full season of resting. That number one

742
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Speaker 1: should help. But number two, I think they have the

743
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Speaker 1: luxury because of cameraon break, because of Oj Howard, and

744
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: they also have a blocking tight end that's returning that

745
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: was their primary blocker run situations at Anthony all Claire,

746
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Speaker 1: who's a younger guy, bigger guy. You don't feel like

747
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: you have to play Bronc Houston every down or have

748
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Speaker 1: him at the point of attack all the time, Like

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Speaker 1: you saw in New England. New England in the last

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00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: few years, Gronkowski was pretty much the workhorse and they

751
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: did have a compliment to him, but he was the guy.

752
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: So I think they do have the luxury even in

753
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: passing situations with Cameron Bray, to be able to, you know,

754
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Speaker 1: not beat him to death and kind of use them

755
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: to your advantage and not have him being the primary barker.

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00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: So that I think a combination of number one getting

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Speaker 1: a healthier Gronkowski and number two having other guys where

758
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: you're not requiring him to be an every down guy

759
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: is going to you know, let you use him to

760
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: the best of his ability and keep him healthy. From

761
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: a long ways away, David seems like Bruce Arians has

762
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: a real reputation of being able to resurrect some some

763
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: some older quarterbacks, some veteran quarterbacks, get a little bit

764
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: more out of them than other guys would have. And

765
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: plus he's got a real reputation of being a guy

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Speaker 1: that players love to play for. Has that been the case,

767
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Speaker 1: What have you notice about that in Tampa Bay and

768
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Speaker 1: what do you expect that to look like with Bruce

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Speaker 1: Arians as Tom Brady's head coach, Bruce Arians is He's

770
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Speaker 1: got a different coaching style that I've been around. You know,

771
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Speaker 1: I played for Coach Shula and obviously Tony Dungee here, um,

772
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: and you know they're two Hall of Fame. One was

773
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: an old school coach and one was more of a

774
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, a newer style players great coach. But Bruce

775
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: Arian has that old school mentality. He speaks very directly

776
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Speaker 1: to the players. If you've ever read his lips on

777
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: the sideline, exactly what he's saying, and you know when

778
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: he's not happy and um, So he has the respect

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00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: of the guys because he's straightforward with them. But he

780
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: demands as much as any coach I've ever seen, and

781
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: the guy's respect him for it and they play hard

782
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: for him. I mean, for this guy to be you know,

783
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: NFL coaching here in two different franchises says a lot

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Speaker 1: about him. And then when he was named as a

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00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: head coach here, you had you know, coach Bowls and

786
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: some other guys that actually, you know, were committed to

787
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: go somewhere else to coach and actually stepped out of

788
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: that to come and coach with Pruce Area. So it

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00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: says a lot about him as a leader as a coach,

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Speaker 1: as a motivator, and both players and coaches respect the

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Speaker 1: heck album for it, and he's done a good job.

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Speaker 1: If you watched the Bucks and all this season, they

793
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: had a very rough start. They got blown out in

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Speaker 1: some games, but they were able to turn it around

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Speaker 1: and win consecutive games five out of six, five out

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Speaker 1: of seven. They were able to run some off at

797
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: the end with very young defense. You're talking defensive backs

798
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Speaker 1: that had two years or less in the league, and

799
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Speaker 1: they were able to really turn things around. And that

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Speaker 1: says a lot about the coaching staff and his ability

801
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: to motivate these guys and keep them on course rather

802
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: than listening to the media tell how bad they are.

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Speaker 1: And you know, that's that's something that you know, not

804
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: all coaches have, but he definitely has that factor. More

805
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers radio endalyst color Amas on the radio, Dave,

806
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: you mentioned Oj Howard was maybeen on the trade block

807
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: before they acquired Gronkowski. Now, what is there a future

808
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: for Oj Howard in Tampa or will they try to

809
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: trade him away? Do you think that's a very good question.

810
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they have a lot of money wrapped up

811
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Speaker 1: in tight ends now either going to bring in Gronkowski.

812
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: OJ Howard was a first round pick before they drafted

813
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Speaker 1: OJ Howard. Cameron brate signed a big deal, but he

814
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: recently restructured to be able to stay in campus. So

815
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Speaker 1: you know, they may use him to be able to

816
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: trade up in the draft. I know that it's been

817
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: out there that he's a potential trade guy, but I

818
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: would imagine, you know, you're probably going to try to

819
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: wheel something because they have a lot of talent and

820
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: a lot of money at the tight end position is

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Speaker 1: OJ Are they unhappy with OJ Howard? Why would Why

822
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Speaker 1: was he being talked about his trade possibilities before this

823
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Speaker 1: all happened with Gronkowski, Well, it happened after the season,

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Speaker 1: and then Bruce did come out and sending a press

825
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: conference that after going back watching all the film, O J. Howard,

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Speaker 1: you know, made some big plays and showed some improvement.

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Speaker 1: Looked like he had the potential to do the things

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Speaker 1: that they wanted him to do. But other than that, really,

829
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Speaker 1: to be honest, I'm not really sure exactly what the

830
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Speaker 1: initial thought back when you heard that he was a

831
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Speaker 1: potential trained guy. Why exactly they put him out there?

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Speaker 1: Hey Dave, thanks for this I mentioned Steve earlier. I

833
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: regret the fact that the Bills and Bucks are not

834
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: scheduled to play a game this year. I think you're

835
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: you're working with one of the most fun teams to

836
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Speaker 1: cover going into the season. I would think of Tampa

837
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: Bay now right. Oh yeah, it's certainly going to draw

838
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: a lot of interest, and I'm sure a lot of

839
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: the Buffalo fans are happy to see Tom Brady get

840
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: out of the division, even when when I was up

841
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: in Buffalo in two thousand and three, we wound up

842
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: blowing out New England in the season opening thirty one nothing,

843
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: and they beat us thirty one nothing in the season

844
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: closer to go and win the Super Bowl that year.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure a lot of the fans up there.

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00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: My son from me playing up there still to this

847
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: day die hard Buffalo guy. He knows more about the

848
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: Bills than anybody else and he's excited. Yeah. That was

849
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: like the high point of the Bills New England series

850
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 1: of the last twenty years that that year. Dave, thanks

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00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: for this, Stay healthy. It's good to talk to you.

852
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Dave Moore, Tampa Bay Buccaneers color analysts,

853
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: former NFL tight end. Spent one of actually three of

854
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: us fifteen seasons at tight end with the Bills, went

855
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl and oh six, good guy, smart guy.

856
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: And uh, they are now a marquee team in the league,

857
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: aren't they Steve the Tampa Bay. So I think they

858
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: automatically get a couple of primetime games. Don't you think

859
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: they'll get a Monday night or Sunday night game? Probably

860
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: early in this season, particularly if they think Gronk might

861
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: not be healthy through the whole season, They'll they'll put

862
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: them on. And uh, of course if the schedule comes

863
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: out and everything is as we think it's gonna be

864
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: or has been in the past, Yeah, they'll get some

865
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: primetime games and it'll be it'll be fun to watch.

866
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to keep track of those guys.

867
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: It sure is. Hey, our question today, it's not a

868
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: Twitter poll, but a question. Bronk is a big addition.

869
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: I see offseason edition for the Bucks, as was Tom Brady.

870
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: What's your all time favorite offseason splash for the Buffalo Bills?

871
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: Who was it? Give us a call eight O three

872
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

873
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: two five fifty we'll read something from the tweet sheet

874
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: when we return. One goes live, presented by a collat

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Speaker 1: of Health Radio only today. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

876
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: Welcome back. This one goes five. We've got Terrell Owens

877
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: coming up at one o'clock here on the show, so

878
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: stick around for that. This is can see. This comes

879
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: from from ESPN. Saints coach Sean Payton told us player

880
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: today they will not have a type of off season

881
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: program the spring, virtual or otherwise. Peyton quoted the saying

882
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: take care of your families, your health, and be ready

883
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 1: for the summer. He met with more than eighty players

884
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: on a video conference today, said the Saints will not

885
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: have a team led off season program even if NFL

886
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: rules change and players can return to their facilities. No

887
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: virtual workouts, no online meetings, no workouts at the facility,

888
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: even if it is allowed. Peyton's message to his players

889
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: show up in July for training camp in the best

890
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: shape of your life. That's weird. Yeah you don't you

891
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: think a little bit. Yeah he must, He probably has.

892
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: He probably trusts his players. And that's that's big. That's

893
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: that's really big, particularly in this day and age. I

894
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: mean of the guys that you know, the guys make

895
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: a ton of money, got a lot of free time,

896
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: and they scatter about and they got their own lives

897
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: to live. Usually at least like to bring them in

898
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: and give them some guidance or at least some some

899
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: stuff you want him to work on in the off season.

900
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: But to say they're not going to do anything, that's crazy.

901
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: That's really I don't get it. I don't know where

902
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: he's going with that. That He's always been a confident guy.

903
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: Uh and you know in his ability to get guys

904
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: to play, but given them so much free time, I

905
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: don't know most play Most coaches don't do it because

906
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: they think they're giving something up to their opponents. You know,

907
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: they think they're losing a competitive edge. He obviously doesn't

908
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: believe that, and he's given the free reign to his players,

909
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: given him the rest of the summer off. He says,

910
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: even if the league changes its approach, and maybe the

911
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: state of Louisiana and let's say June first they open up,

912
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: think that they allow team the Saints to return. He's saying,

913
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: don't bother, we'll get you here in July. Being the

914
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: best shape of your life. That is amazing. I'd like

915
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: to hear more on that. That's up in shape. Wow yeah, wow,

916
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: it's all right. We got to break here and when

917
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: we come back to her longs we'll join us. So

918
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: come on back for that. One Bill's Life presented by

919
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: KLAIDA Health Radio Only Today. This is Buffalo Bills Radio,

920
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: Hills Radio Network Sports Date the update from One Builds nine.

921
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: Saints coach Sean Payton told his player today they will

922
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: not have any type of offseason program that spring, virtual

923
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: or otherwise. He told them to take care of their families,

924
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: their health, and be ready for the summer. Peyton shared

925
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: the news in a video conference with more than eighty

926
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: players this morning. He said the Saints will not have

927
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: a team let off season program even if the league

928
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: changes rules and allows players to return to their families.

929
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: The NFL and the Players Association agreed to a modified

930
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: offseason workout last week to help them navigate through the

931
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: coronavirus pandemic to build there A couple of days into THEIRS,

932
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: Patriots have agreed to trade tight end Rob Grenkowsky to

933
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. It reunites the retired tight end with Tom

934
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: Brady in Tampa Bay Drew Rosenhot's Gronkowski agent says the

935
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: five time Pro bowler has been really invigorated physically since

936
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: he's retired from football thirteen months ago. The Buck announced

937
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: the tales of the trade and the news release yesterday.

938
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: New England gets a fourth round pick in this week's

939
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: draft in Tampa Bay would get a seventh round pick

940
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: along with Gunkownski. Former wide receiver Percy Harvin in the

941
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: NFL told the SBM he wants to return to football.

942
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: Harvan he's not played since the two thousand and sixteen

943
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: with the Bills. He has battled the number of injuries

944
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: throughout his career, but he says he is ready to return.

945
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: Percy Harvin turns thirty two next months. He retired for

946
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: a second time in March twenty seventeen after playing two

947
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: games in twenty sixteen with the Buffalo Bills. Roger Goodell

948
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: says the NFL draft gives the sports world hope. Goodell

949
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: appeared on ESPN's Get Up Today. He said the NFL

950
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: wanted to provide hope to the sports world in need

951
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: of it. He said that people are looking for the

952
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: NFL to bring communities together, and the draft will do

953
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: that the draft will be conducted with every decision maker

954
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: working from home. Gondell will announce first round picks Thursday

955
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: night from the basement of his house in suburban New York.

956
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow expected me the first overall pick in the

957
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: Bengals coach Zack Taylor says he's ready to go. Taylor

958
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: says he's enjoyed getting to know Burrow over the last

959
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: few weeks as they get ready to make him the

960
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: first overall pick in tomorrow night's NFL Draft. And there

961
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: he goes. That is the update from One Bill's Live.

962
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: John Murphy steam Tasker working from home again today. I'm

963
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: comfortable working in here, aren't you, Steve? I feel good

964
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: about I meant, oh yeah, I'm I feel really I'm

965
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: getting more and more used to it as we go along. Now,

966
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's becoming the like we said, the new normal.

967
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: And what gets me is every day, you know how

968
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: he finished doing something. You know that the show is

969
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: the main part of the day. Right, We're gonna we're

970
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: neon to three every day and we're grinding it out,

971
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: and you think, okay, after you get the show, after

972
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: and you get off the show, there's nothing to do.

973
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, there's nothing to do. You know,

974
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I should have stayed on the radio with Murph.

975
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's just the rest of my day. I

976
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: got my free What am I gonna do? It's like, oh,

977
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: I can't do anything. They get outside right. Hey, um,

978
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: you just mentioned a moment ago, one of the two

979
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: buzzwords buzz phrases over the last six weeks that I

980
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: think we should band from our show, the New Normal.

981
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: How many times have you heard people on commercials mostly

982
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: talking about the new normal? The other thing that people

983
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: always say in these challenging times, every commercial on TV

984
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: starts with that, in these challenging days, you know, the

985
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: new normal. I don't want to hear that anymore. I

986
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: don't want this to be normal, new or otherwise. Yeah,

987
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: it's a challenge. The challenge we face is not that

988
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: steep don't tell me, you know, when you're trying to

989
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: sell your burgers from Burger King, don't tell me in

990
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: these challenging times. You know, in these challenging times, we'll

991
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: deliver those chicken nuggets right to your door. Oh there's

992
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: a ton of those over here, like uncharted waters. Yeah,

993
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: it's another one another one. Yeah, that's another one. You're right.

994
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: John Murphy with Steam Tasker. We're here until three o'clock

995
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: today talking about big splash signings. The Bills made a

996
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: big splash signing when they signed Tarall Owens to the

997
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: roster eleven years ago. Karol Owens TEO is live on

998
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 1: the line of this right now. Hello, Arrell Owens, Genre

999
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: and Steam task up for in Buffabo. Thank you for

1000
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: coming on. Hey guys, how are you guys doing We're

1001
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: doing good. How about you? Where are you in Alabama

1002
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: working out today? Here are you in Dallas? Where are

1003
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: you hanging out these days? No? Actually, right now, I'm

1004
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: in I'm in Florida, Florida. Yeah, I mean, and you

1005
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: have launched what you're calling the COVID nineteen Driveway Challenge.

1006
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: What's it all about, Taryll h Yeah. So obviously when

1007
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: I played in Philly, I had to infamous sit up

1008
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: press conference and all that good that's going on, Yes,

1009
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: I recall, yes, yeah, So so honestly, I would just

1010
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: basically just trying to do my part, you know, just

1011
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: just trying to really kind of inspire motivate people. Obviously

1012
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: during this uh you know, unexpected um you know, time

1013
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: that we're dealing with COVID nineteen, that the pandemic. So

1014
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: I just wanted to try to just really just encourage

1015
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: people to kind of just stay at home. And then

1016
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: obviously if you're at home, you're not really doing a

1017
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: whole lot. I'm sure a lot of families out there

1018
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: across the country, what is I think it's been what

1019
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: about four weeks now. I think a lot of us

1020
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: probably have gotten to know each other real well, um

1021
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: and and probably ready for this thing to be able with.

1022
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: But just to try to get people to you know,

1023
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: just you know, just just trying to be patient, you know,

1024
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: stay at home. Um. And if you're at home, you

1025
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: just trying to do something with your time. And a

1026
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: lot of people been doing puzzles, I know, I have

1027
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: board games, uh and creatively, you know. I tried to

1028
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: get some you know, get people to do nineteen uh

1029
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: nineteen situps in their driveway, whether they had an ab

1030
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: bench or not, or if you can, like I said

1031
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: in the in the video, just do it old school.

1032
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: Get somebody to hold your feet down and crank out

1033
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: those nineteen uh those nineteen push up for the COVID

1034
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic. I gotta be I gotta be honest with you.

1035
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: You're staying in better shape than I am. I don't

1036
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: know if I could do nineteen situps. Um, that's that's

1037
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 1: I think you can do it, even if it's even

1038
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: if they're assisted nineteen able to do it. Yeah, that's

1039
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: that might be. That might be. What do you what

1040
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 1: do you remember about your time of arriving in Buffalo?

1041
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: How did that all take? And you know, what do

1042
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: you remember about the very first time you heard of

1043
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: the possibility about coming and playing in Buffalo so many

1044
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: years ago? Um? You know, honestly, uh, you know, the

1045
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: opportunities that were very very limited. Um, honestly, I knew

1046
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: that at that stage. And obviously you know, when you're

1047
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: and your when you get in youto your thirties within

1048
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: the National Football League, you know teams, GMS owners that

1049
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: feel like you're over the hill. Um that obviously your

1050
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: your best years are behind you. Um. But you know,

1051
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: for for some people, you know, there's an exception for that,

1052
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: and and I honestly I put myself in that in

1053
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: that category, and so I honestly knew that I had uh,

1054
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: probably more years of football to play and it was

1055
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: just about, you know, someone giving me an opportunity. And

1056
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: so when the opportunity arose, you know, um, I kind

1057
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: of just vetted it out. Um. Obviously, I think I've

1058
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: heard you know a lot of people, um that weren't

1059
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: too keen on going to Buffalo, whether it was because

1060
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: of the team, the city, things of that nature. Um.

1061
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: But I didn't allow that to deter me, um from

1062
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: from an opportunity. And so they offered me a one

1063
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: year deal, and so I figured, Okay, let me just

1064
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: go in and if I if I'm productive in this

1065
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: one year, um, you know, let's see what happens after that.

1066
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: And so outside of that, you know, I remember my

1067
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: agent at the time, UM, you know, he basically came

1068
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: to me and he goes, Yo, it's like there's one

1069
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: thing that, uh, they wanted me to tell you. And

1070
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's that And it was like, you know,

1071
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: They're like, they can't guarantee you are starting position a

1072
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 1: number one spot, and I'm like, well, I've never I've

1073
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: never done that anyway, and I said, I don't have

1074
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: a problem going in competing for the position. And I

1075
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: think that's obviously from the media's portrayal of who I

1076
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: was and who I am over the course of my career. UM,

1077
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: that they wanted to bring that to, you know, my

1078
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: agent's attention to relate to me. And I thought that

1079
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: was very odd. But other than that, I, like I said,

1080
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: I didn't allow that to deter me. And I'm like, yo,

1081
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem company and competing. UM. I

1082
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: knew they had leave at Lee Evans. UM there a

1083
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: very good receiver. UM. And so I know they had

1084
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: a young quarterback in Trynetwards, UM Alex van Pelt to

1085
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: think he was an offensive coordinator. I think he may

1086
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: have been. And they basically said, Yo, we want to

1087
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: bring you in. Um. We feel like you you have

1088
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: the skill set to do what we want to do

1089
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: and and and help bring along um this young guy

1090
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: in Trynettwards. So so I was like, all right, cool.

1091
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: So it was a one year deal and we made

1092
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: it happen. And then at that given time, I was

1093
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: shooting a reality show. It was a TL show, and

1094
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: so we just kind of incorporated you know that, uh

1095
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: in the midst of what I was doing. And so, um,

1096
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: that was when I got the warm reception uh in Buffalo. UM,

1097
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: we obviously notified them of what I was doing. And again,

1098
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: like I said, it worked out, um, and I couldn't

1099
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: couldn't be more happy, um, and pleased with how the

1100
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: city of Buffalo welcomed me when I stepped off that

1101
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: that airplane. Yeah, the productive year, Terry had fifty five catches,

1102
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: five of them for touchdowns. So obviously you put up

1103
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: numbers during your one season in Buffalo, right, Yeah. And

1104
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: I think if you look at the first part of

1105
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: the season, Um, I was pretty much you know, I

1106
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: was none existent, and I think that was obviously dud

1107
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: with no discount or just credit to Trent that was

1108
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: but uh, he was a young quarterback and and I

1109
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: wasn't his main target, and so he was throwing a

1110
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: lot of the balls to the tight ends running backs

1111
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: and obviously Lee Evans was getting a buckle those balls.

1112
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: And so um, like I said, I would just like

1113
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: I said, for me, I was like, man, how can

1114
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: I get involved? And and I was, you know, I

1115
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: was wanting to be more involved. But if you look

1116
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: at the first part of the season, um, and look

1117
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: at the last half of the of the season, I

1118
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: think you'll understand and see why I was very productive.

1119
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: Towards the end, and that was because unfortunately for for Trent,

1120
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: he ended up getting injured of some things that happened.

1121
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: And here comes Ryan Fitzpatrick, and this, obviously, this was

1122
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: I think this was I think that the precursor to,

1123
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, a preface to what we now know as

1124
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: fits Magic. And so a lot of people have asked me,

1125
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, over the course of my career, you know,

1126
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: who was one of the best, who was one of

1127
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: the best quarterback that I played with? And a lot

1128
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: of people think I'm joking when I say this, but

1129
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: I tell him Fitzpatrick, and he's because of just how

1130
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: smart he was and is um the way that I

1131
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: was able to really put up some numbers. And once

1132
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: he got behind the quarterback, I got it, got behind

1133
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: the center. And it shows you just that that the

1134
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: leadership m just the cerebral mind that he has um

1135
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: to obviously take advantage of of who I was in

1136
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: my skill set, and I became a very valuable target

1137
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: and really and I think I broke a couple of records,

1138
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: you know, later in that in that season. So once

1139
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: I got a capable quarterback to realize that, okay, let

1140
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: me get this guy the ball. M he's watching me

1141
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: throughout the course of my career. Everybody got a sense

1142
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: and got a glimpse of what they've been seeing, you know,

1143
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: throughout the course of my career. Drow, I know you've

1144
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: kept tracks what scoring all around the National Football League

1145
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: and he had to hear about the trade the Stefan

1146
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: Diggs coming to Buffalo give us. I know you've done it.

1147
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: You've been a big time number one one receiver. How

1148
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: big a difference can a guy like you or a

1149
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: guy like Stefund Diggs make to a team and what

1150
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: kind of confidence can he give a quarterback? I mean, obviously,

1151
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: I think when you look at Josh Allen and how

1152
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: he progressed, um, you know this year, uh from from

1153
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: last year and obviously getting you guys into the playoffs,

1154
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: and and I'm sure there's a few plays, a couple

1155
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: of plays here and now Josh Allen which he could

1156
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: take back a few decisions. I'm sure a coach could

1157
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: feel like they could have made here and there um

1158
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: to make a difference. But when you add a dynamic

1159
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: weapon like Stefan Digg, I think everybody's well aware of

1160
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: what he did with the Minnesota Vikings. Um. That's I mean,

1161
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a that's a quarterbacks dream, especially

1162
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: when you have a guy like him who can take

1163
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: the top off defenses. And I think if Stefan is

1164
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: listening to this and he can adopt and adapt to

1165
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: just what a number one receiver role is, and it's

1166
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: not just you know, just catching the ball, but doing

1167
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: the little things um to to help himself, um, get open,

1168
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: help enable other guys to get open. UM, He's going

1169
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: to be an even better receiver than he is now.

1170
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: And so you have a strong arm quarterback in Josh

1171
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: Allen who from from watching him, especially watching you guys

1172
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: in the playoff, he can make all the throws on

1173
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: the football field. You have guys like that, and you saw,

1174
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, some of the the inexperienced or lack of

1175
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: um in decision making um, you know, you know, late

1176
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 1: in that ball game. And I think, you know, he'll

1177
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: learn from that. And that's what those type of games

1178
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: are for now, especially now you with this upcoming season,

1179
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, you you don't have to make all the plays.

1180
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: You allow the weapons around you to create the production

1181
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: and create you know that atmosphere where ultimate at the

1182
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: end of the day, he's going to be, you know,

1183
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: the reason why they won games, but you know, just

1184
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: because of his decision making, because everything starts with, you know,

1185
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: with the head coach, and then you know, once that

1186
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: coach caused to play, it's up to Josh Allen and

1187
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: the rest of those guys to to to execute that play.

1188
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: So um that they're in they're in good hands with

1189
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: t o Tarallen's on the line with this. Terrell two

1190
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, You're one season in Buffalo and one

1191
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: one play I definitely recall was a game at Jacksonville.

1192
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: I think it was Perry Fuel's first game as h

1193
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: as interim head coach, and you caught a ninety eight

1194
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: yard touchdown passing that game. The Bills went on to

1195
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: lose it, but it was kind of a it was

1196
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: kind of an eye opener, like, Wow, this can happen.

1197
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: This offense can make big plays. You would call that play,

1198
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. I think we're on the two yard line.

1199
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: And again this is late in the season. This is

1200
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: where you know, I think Ryan Fitzpatrick had taken over

1201
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position at this point, and so we're

1202
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: on the two yard line, were coming out and obviously,

1203
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: I think anybody knowing tendencies when you're when you're that

1204
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: deep into the end zone, you're gonna run the ball. Um.

1205
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: Typically you're gonna have a you know, seven to eight

1206
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: man nine man front, and then you're gonna have the

1207
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: safeties uh kind of you know, cheating up a little bit.

1208
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: So they tried to disguise it. They just tried to

1209
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: disguise it will cover two and then uh Ryan, I

1210
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: remember vividly, Ryan went through as cadence and I saw

1211
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: the safety start to cheat up a bit, and so

1212
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: I was lying up outright white, right um, and so

1213
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: I looked in, I looked inside, and I saw Ryan

1214
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: make a few calls and he made them checked and

1215
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: he looked at me, and I didn't I didn't budge.

1216
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: I kind of knew automatically what he was thinking. And

1217
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: so he made a check out the line. I knew

1218
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: what that was, um, and once that's that's safety cheated down.

1219
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: I was one on one with the with the cornerback.

1220
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: And so again for somebody my age, I'm sure a

1221
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't expect me to get beyond or

1222
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: get deep on a lot of guys even throughout the

1223
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: course of my career, but I have deceptive speed, and

1224
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: it was just a just a connection and just an

1225
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: understanding of what I saw with the defense, and I

1226
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: understood what he saw, and it was just one of

1227
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: those checks and the rest is history. I just all

1228
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: I had to do was really just get a release

1229
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: and beat the corner. And he put the ball. He

1230
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: had a little time time once he dropped back, and

1231
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: uh yeah, he threw it up and I went and

1232
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: got it. And so it was a ninety yearth yarder,

1233
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: the longest of my career. And if I'm not mistaken

1234
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: that it was a record. After the Buffalo Bills, yeah,

1235
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: I think it was with Tera Owen's t o on

1236
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: the line with us talking about his year with the

1237
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: Bills and about his NFL career. I kind of reached

1238
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: a culmination a couple of summers ago when you went

1239
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Tarrell, and I

1240
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: know that was you know, contentious for a while. You

1241
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: weren't happy that you had to wait a little while.

1242
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: But if you thought much about that and in recent

1243
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: years maybe reflected on going into the Hall of Fame,

1244
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: what it meant and and uh, you know how it

1245
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: worked out for you. What do you think, Well, I

1246
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: think you know for me what it meant for me,

1247
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: It was just a really kind of just a recognition. UM.

1248
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: I guess I don't even know if you if it's

1249
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: fair to say a validation, um, you know, for for

1250
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: my career. But you know, obviously that process in which

1251
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: guys are inducted, you know, they're the criteria in which

1252
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, writers are appointed to uh to adhere uh

1253
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: to um in order to nominate and then ultimately induct

1254
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: guys into the Hall of Fame. And when you think

1255
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: about the criteria um of that, you know people can

1256
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: research it. Then I felt like I checked all the boxes,

1257
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: and as you said, I mean, I wasn't a first

1258
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. And some people said, well, what,

1259
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter as long as you're in there. But

1260
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, I think when you go out of your way,

1261
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: uh you know, to to to somehow discredit a guy

1262
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: that has checked all the boxes in which I did.

1263
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Speaker 1: At that point in time, I'm number two and number

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Speaker 1: three behind the greatest receui of all time and Jayed Rice,

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01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: and you make a concerted effort, you know, by bringing

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Speaker 1: up other things outside of just a mission statement that

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01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: everything that the Hall of Fame embodies, and then the criteria.

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Speaker 1: It irked me a bit. It it really was slapping

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Speaker 1: the face and uh for what I had done, you know,

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Speaker 1: not only for myself personally from from a from a

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Speaker 1: professional and athletic standpoint, perform at standpoint, but even just

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Speaker 1: from my fans across the across the world. Um. So

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Speaker 1: I just took it upon myself to take matters into

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Speaker 1: my own hands. UM. I wasn't gonna allow you know,

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01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: people toucher to really you know, uh stake my name

1276
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: in history by by by with some shenanigans. And so

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01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: I chose to do it at University of Tennessee of Chattanooga.

1278
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: I called there and I asked them, you know, um,

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01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, if I could do it, and they blessed

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Speaker 1: me with the opportunity to do it there under the

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01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: condition that it was you know, for the right reasons,

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01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: and and I assured them that it wasn't. So, Um

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01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: it worked out well. And for all the people that

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01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: you know that say that I that I regretted or

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01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: I will regret it somewhere down the road, trust me.

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01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: I talked to my mom, my family's I mean, especially

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Speaker 1: my brothers and sister that knew and had followed my career,

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01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: and they saw how, you know, really how the league

1289
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: was trying to do me. They had no problems with it.

1290
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:34,959
Speaker 1: And for a lot of people, you know, I watched

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01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: a lot of the highlights in the commentary about He's

1292
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: gonna miss it, this, that another, and I said, you know,

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01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: said this time and time again. How can I ever

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Speaker 1: miss something that I never experienced. So it wasn't about

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01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: really me missing anything. And you know, as long as

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Speaker 1: my family was happy, because everything that I did in

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Speaker 1: my career, um, number one, it was for my grandmother

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01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: who raised me and my mom. Um. There was two strong,

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01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: two strong women in my household that raised a pretty

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01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: fairly good young man man and myself. And so um,

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of that. They're proud of the fact that,

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01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, how I did it the way that I

1303
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: did it, And so at the end of the day,

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01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: that's all that matters. Terrell Owens our guests, UH Pro

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01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame receiver from a Buffalo Bill in

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01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine and a til I read somewhere

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01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: that you have said publicly you want to see the

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Speaker 1: Bills in the Super Bowl this year and the game

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01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: is in Tampa. Maybe they get to play the home

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01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: team in Tampa this year. Huh Hey, absolutely, I mean

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01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: it's definitely there's definitely an opportunity. I think when you

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01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: look at the teams now, you look at the parody

1313
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: of the league, I think everybody's kind of you know,

1314
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: there's no clear favorite. Um, obviously, you know you have

1315
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: Tom Brady now in the NFC, uh, you know division

1316
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: that's obviously at first for him playing obviously playing in

1317
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: the AFC for so long. Um, so again, you know,

1318
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: anything can happen, you know, uh, coming out of each division.

1319
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: So um, definitely, I think the way that you know,

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Speaker 1: the Bill has played last year, and as I two

1321
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Speaker 1: and I mentioned too earlier with Josh Allen, I'm sure

1322
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,959
Speaker 1: I watched that game against the textings, I'm sure like saying,

1323
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: you guys were right on the cusp of winning that game.

1324
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: And so I'm sure he's going to review that tape

1325
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: and I touched on it too. It just, you know,

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01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: him allowing the players around him to make play. There's

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01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: gonna be plenty of times where he'll be able to

1328
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: assess what he can do and how he can do

1329
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: it and when he can do it as the season unfold.

1330
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: So um, definitely, like I said, if I'm hoping, you know,

1331
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: with all the honestly the bad luck that the Buffalo

1332
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: Bills have had, you know, over over the years of

1333
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: right not you know, being in four Super Bowls back

1334
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: to back to back to back and not winning. Then

1335
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: if any city deserves to put a Super Bowl, it's Buffalo,

1336
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: New York. Terrell, earlier in your retirement and earlier you

1337
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: had fluttered with coming back and trying to play and

1338
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: getting a chance to redo your career later on. And

1339
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: now this year, in the last well since yesterday, Rob Grinkowski,

1340
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: who's been out for one year, is decided he's going

1341
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: to give it a shot with Tampa Bay. What are

1342
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: your thoughts on you know, how good did you feel

1343
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: a year after you left the league and did you

1344
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: feel like you could still play? I think he did.

1345
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: What about Grinkowski? Can he come back help the Tampa

1346
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers? What what do you think about a guy

1347
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: retiring for a year and then coming back. Hell, I've

1348
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: been retired for about nine years and I feel like

1349
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: I can't come back in and be protected at some

1350
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: point there you go. Uh uh, but I was like,

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01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean, just just a touch on that too. When

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01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: I left, Um, you know, when I completed that one

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01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: year in Buffalo, UM, I honestly thought I was going

1354
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: to come back and um, you know, especially with you know,

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Speaker 1: the way that I produced forward the end of the year. UM,

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01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to come back and play

1357
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: another year or so. And so obviously I didn't find

1358
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: out later on that it was Buddy Nicks. They kind

1359
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: of just uh kind of just you know, kind of

1360
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: swept me away. And you know, that was that was disappointing.

1361
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: Considering you you would think that relationships and and and

1362
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: and just some sort some sort of connection, um, that

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01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 1: he would have least addressed me, talk to me about

1364
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: it and what have you. And but you know, considering

1365
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: I went to Utu chat Nuga, where you know, um

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01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: I played my freshman year on the Buddy Knicks. And

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Speaker 1: then just to hear, um, you know, just to read

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01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: the article um that Matt put out the other day. UM,

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01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: just it was just discouraging that to hear you know him,

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01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: uh you know say that he watched tape and he

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01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: said that I was done, and you know, pretty much.

1372
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: I was washed up. But you know, a year later,

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01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: I go to Cincinnati and I played with Chat and

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01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: I have almost I was what less than twenty yards

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Speaker 1: from a thousand yards uh a thousand yards season? UM,

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: I had nine touchdown UM. And that's that. That was

1377
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: far from a guy that you know in my mind

1378
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 1: and my eyes, that that that was that was washed up.

1379
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: So I was I was very fond of the receiving

1380
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: corps that they had there with Stevie Johnson and Lee

1381
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: Evans and and obviously I said, you know, uh, Line

1382
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick and just a nucleus of guys. Who knows what

1383
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: could have happened, you know, had I stayed another year. UM.

1384
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: But just to touch on too and say, way to

1385
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: the Gronkowski situation, UM, I mean he's taking some time

1386
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: off obviously to allow his body to heal. So that's

1387
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: going to only bode well for him and and the

1388
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: b and the and the Buccaneers for that matter. UM.

1389
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 1: You know, given the fact that he's kept kept himself

1390
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: in shape. And I've seen Grunk, I've done a couple

1391
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: of things with him, um, entertainment wise, UM, and and

1392
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: he looks in shape. He's he's dropped in some pounds,

1393
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: dropped in weight a little bit, So I'm sure he's

1394
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 1: gonna go into the season obviously pressure obviously a lot healthier.

1395
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: And when you have a quarterback in Tom Brady that

1396
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: you're very very familiar with invice and and vice versa. UM,

1397
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: that's only going to bode well for the Buccaneers. And

1398
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: obviously they have two two great receivers on the outside.

1399
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: When we talk about Chris Godlin and Mike Evans and

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01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: the defense didn't play well, Um, I said, that's not

1401
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: to to factor in what Tom Brady brings offensively, especially

1402
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: with the decision making, um that he's going to be

1403
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: Brady be bringing to that offense. Hey Terall, thanks for this.

1404
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: It's great to catch up with you. Hang in there,

1405
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: and I hope you talk again soon sometime. Thank you

1406
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: very much, hey man, anytime man go builds. Oh well, thanks.

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01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: Terrell Owens, pro Football Hall of Famer from a couple

1408
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: of years ago, spent the two thousand and nine season

1409
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: with the Bills. Pretty good numbers that you're fifty five catches,

1410
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: fifteen point one yards per catch, five touchdowns, had that

1411
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: ninety eight yarder against Jacksonville, played fifteen seasons in the NFL. Yeah,

1412
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: he had some moments, even with that one year with

1413
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, And listen, nobody would ever dispute

1414
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: that he belongs in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Right,

1415
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: He's got Hall of Fame credentials. He absolutely, absolutely, absolutely

1416
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: he was. He was an enormous talent, of a physical

1417
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: nightmare to match up with he had, and he had

1418
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: the ability to make tough catches in traffic. Yeah, he was.

1419
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: He was a tremendously gifted player and deserves to be

1420
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Question. And I think it's

1421
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: interesting that he still sticks to his position that he

1422
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: didn't want to wait. He wanted to go in as

1423
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: soon as he was eligible, which you know, you can

1424
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: say all you want, I hear. I see his point.

1425
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: I understand what he's saying. I guess I don't put

1426
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: as much stock in going in first year of eligibility

1427
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: as opposed to second or third or whatever. You're in

1428
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. You're in the Hall of Fame.

1429
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: I think if you'd start looking at all I deserved

1430
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: to win my first year, then you're creating like an

1431
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: elite level Hall of famer. I don't know if that's

1432
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: the point, right, you know what I mean, You're in

1433
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. You're in the Hall of Fame,

1434
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: no matter when you got in, right. I will say

1435
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: this though, And for Terrell, I think and what's been

1436
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: said by some of the guys who vote and some

1437
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: of the presenters, and it became obvious that it was

1438
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: personal within Yeah, and they meant it personal. So he

1439
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: took it personal. I don't have a problem with that.

1440
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 1: If they meant it because of his personality or whatever,

1441
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: they meant to personally send a message to him. Yeah,

1442
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: he can certainly, he can certainly handle it in any

1443
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: way he wants. If they meant it person only, he

1444
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: took it personally, and I don't I don't blame him

1445
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah. So I think there was some of that, like, well,

1446
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: we'll get him, we get a chance now to teach

1447
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 1: him a lesson, you know, by the profil called electors.

1448
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if they did, but he felt that

1449
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: he was being wronged, and so I I understand why

1450
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: he did it. I just don't I don't like an

1451
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: implication that there's Hall of Famers and there's first ballot

1452
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: hall of famers and they're better than the rest of them.

1453
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that's fair. I don't think that's the

1454
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: way it's set up at all. But that's uh, yeah,

1455
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if and I even know at the cult,

1456
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 1: at the core of it, that that's that's what he's saying.

1457
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 1: I think more of it is saying he was deliberately

1458
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: kept out for no reason other than guys didn't like him.

1459
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: And I think he made a point. I made. He

1460
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: made his point, no question about it, and and it's

1461
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: uh And I don't have a problem with it. I

1462
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: guess that is what I can say. Is all I

1463
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: can say. All Right, Hey, we've got a good question here,

1464
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: and it's our Twitter question today. What's your Tara? Was

1465
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: a big splash. It was March of two thousand and

1466
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: nine when the Bill stegned Arrol Owens off free agency,

1467
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: taking everybody by surprise. And there have been a couple

1468
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: of those moves for the Bills in the past. I

1469
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: mean Jim Kelly drafted and then didn't sign until three

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Speaker 1: years later. That was a big move. Mario Williams, obviously

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Speaker 1: a big move. We're taking your nominations for your favorite

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Speaker 1: all time offseason splash for the Buffalo Bills. What do

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Speaker 1: you think it is? Eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: the number to call with suggestions toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. The surprise signing to

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Speaker 1: Brob Gronkowski by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is what prompted

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Speaker 1: this question, and let's talk about it about Gronkowski or

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Speaker 1: your favorite offseason splash for the Buffalo Bills. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to the phone calls at a moment. We'll read from

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet as well. Come on back one does

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Speaker 1: live presenta by Klatta Health Radio only today. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio, a lout of health, John Murphy, Seve

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: Tasker working from home again today. The draft is tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Our question, what's your all time favorite offseason splash for

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01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: the Bills? A draft pick, maybe a trade, maybe a

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01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: free agent signing. There's a lot we're gonna get through here.

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Speaker 1: We got the good submissions on Twitter. But let's take

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Speaker 1: a call first, Ivan in Buffalo. Hello, Ivan, you're on

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01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: the air. Let's go ahead. Please? Yeah, how's it going? Great? Good?

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Speaker 1: So my favorite off season splashes the Spawn Diggs one

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01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 1: and really, you know I'm new to Buffalo here, but

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01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, there's been a lot of excitement about it

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01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: on the potential of the Super Bowl. Um, and I

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01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: haven't seen that in Buffalo. You know, I've only been

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01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: here for three years, but I'm followed it for a

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01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: long time. Three years before you've cut You've caught it

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01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 1: right at the right time. The last two out of

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01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: the last three years had been to the playoffs, and

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01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: now they're talking super Bowl. Let's I hit it right

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01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 1: with the Bills fan thing. And you're right. In the

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01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: last three years, this probably is the splashiest of the

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01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: last three off seasons, don't you think, Murphy, Except maybe

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01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: the Josh Allen thing. It was pretty big draft in

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01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 1: a quarterback first round. It wasn't a universally welcome pick,

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01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: by the way, a splash or not drafting Josh Gallen

1506
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: immediately got criticized by Bills fans the very next day.

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01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: Why didn't they get j Rosen? Well, I don't know.

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: They gotta be happy they didn't, But I don't know.

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01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: Stefand is big. I do think it was a big

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01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: It was big. You're Evan, You're right, it was a

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01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: big move. It was a splashing move, a trade that

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01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: really came out of nowhere, and the Bills, with Ketty themselves,

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01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 1: Brandon being told us basically happened that day, right at

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01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 1: some point that day wasn't in the work for months

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01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: or anything. The Bills kind of laid the groundward class fall,

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01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: but it wasn't in the work for the weeks preceding it.

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01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 1: But I do think there have been splash. Your move

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01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: signing Terrell Owens and shocked the NFL that Saturday in

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01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: March of two thousand and nine, pursuing and getting Mario

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01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: will and Williams landing him was a huge deal and

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01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: it kind of got the attention to the rest of

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01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: the NFL. And Kelly's interesting because again drafted in eighty three,

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01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: part of that quarterback draft seed that you remember, but

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01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: didn't sign eighty six. And the splash I think came

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01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: in eighty six when the Bills again there was a pursuit. Right,

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01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: you weren't even were you there? Yeah? Were you here

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01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: the Bills in eighty six, Sure you were. I was there.

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01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: He got there right before the opening game of the season,

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01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: the weekend before they opened. And I got there in

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01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: November eight, all right, because there was a preseason game

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01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: in Houston, where Bill Paulian sat and watched the game

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01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: with Kelly and his representatives, so they were talking, but

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01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't for a few more days that he actually signed.

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01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: But that was splashyt that was big. That was a

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01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: major NFL story when they got Jim Kelly to sign.

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01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: And eighty I'm sorry, I got it all wrong, the no.

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01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: Eighty six, that's right. Eighty six, yeah, yeah, right, And

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01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: it was right before the first regular season game. Yep,

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01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: that was huge. Anyway, thanks for your call a live

1540
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: and let's read a few from the tweet sheet about this.

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01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: What's the your favorite offseason splash for the Buffalo Bills

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01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: Jack's Jack tweets and Diggs is up there. But remember

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01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: how excited I was when we signed to Killo Spikes

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01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: and Sam Adams shortly after an OH three. I just

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01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: knew we'd have a great defense that year. I was

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01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: so pumped. Trying to get a few bugs to go

1547
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: down un tailgate at the stadium that weekend ended up

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01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: at the Big Tree instead. I bet that's happened on

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01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: more than one of kids. And that was huge. And

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01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: you remember how Bills fans lobbied for Takaio spikes in

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01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: the finale season finale and O two. I mean they

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01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: were cheering them on for the Bengals, trying to get

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01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: them to come to Buffalo and it worked, right, Yeah,

1554
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: that's right, and it was Yeah, those guys, those guys

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01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: were players, and they were they were known commodities, and

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01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: that I think that always makes a bigger splash than

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01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: a draft pick, no matter how highly towered a draft

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01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: pick is. We've seen those guys flame out every year,

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01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: we've seen some guy who was a can't miss, uh miss,

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01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: and so free agent signings are guys that you've seen,

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01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 1: that are proven that you've seen them play well in

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01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: the NFL, You've seen them do it on Sundays. So

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01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: they're always, I think a little more splashy than the

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01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: guys who were draft picks and those kinds of things.

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01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: I got another couple of nominations for this. We'll get

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01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 1: back to the tweets in a moment here. Steve, how

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01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: about in two thousand and two when the Bills got

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01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 1: Drew Bledsoe. That was pretty splashy. That was splashy. That

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01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: was big. That was big. Remember out in the parking

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01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: lot it was draft weekend. They didn't draft Drew, but

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01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: they got him in the trade New England. And remember

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01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 1: they had a reception set up in the parking lot

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01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: outside the administration building. Was the Monday after the draft,

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01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, and they brought him they brought him

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01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: into a full blown set up press conference inside the

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01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: field house because there was so and Kelly showed up

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01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: and they were all there. Breeze shows up in a

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01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: suit and tie. They had the podium set up and

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01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: all the chairs like a theater kind of set up,

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01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: a big time like a head coaching like they did

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01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: with Sean McDermott when they hired him. One of the

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01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 1: big time press conferences. So yeah, it was big when

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01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,839
Speaker 1: Drew Black forgot about that. Yeah, that was very splashy

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01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:00,040
Speaker 1: because he had been beating our brains in all his

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01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: years was New England, right, So yeah, and maybe you know,

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01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: I think people might judge these, you know, the biggest

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01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: offseason splash. They may judge these on how it turned out.

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01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 1: And obviously you would like to get more from Drew Bledsoe,

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01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 1: but that's not what we're measuring here and not what

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01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,839
Speaker 1: we're asking for her, asking for your all time favorite

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01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: offseason splash, which when it occurred was a big deal.

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01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: I think Bledsoe qualified and you know what else might

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01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: qualify for the steave the acquisition of Lawyer Malloy in

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01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: the trade from New England right right before the season began. Well,

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01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 1: if you cut him, they released him, they trade him, right, Yeah,

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01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: did they release him? And he signed with Buffalo right

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01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: away and came in like three days or four days

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01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: before the start of the season. And he ends up

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01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: starting on opening day against the team that just released him.

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01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: And that's the one that Dave Moore or guests in

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01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: the first hour of the show, he remembered beating the

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01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 1: Patriots thirty one and nothing on opening Day in Orchard Park,

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01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: and Lawyer Malloy that the emotional kick that the Bills

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01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: got and the Bills fans got from him being in

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01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. And I think ultimately it hurt the

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01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: Patriots too, those guys. The win was out of him, man,

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01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 1: because Lawyer Malloy had been a guy who I remember

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01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots players saying, hey, he won the offseason. He

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01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: got the award for being the most prompt, the most present.

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01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,440
Speaker 1: You know, he got a perfect attendance in the offseason workouts.

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01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,600
Speaker 1: He came in and led the way. He was like

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01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: all in, all the way, and then the Patriots released

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01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 1: him before the start of the season and it really

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01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: kicked the Patriots team in the gut. And then he

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01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: comes out of the tunnel on opening day as a

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01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: start in free safety for the Bills. Wow, that was good.

1617
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: That turns into a thirty one to nothing shellacking. Yep,

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01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: take another phone call out of this year favorite off

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01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 1: season splash for the Buffalo Bills. Something that happened in

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01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 1: the offseason. Let's going to Mark in Buffalo, Hi, Mark

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01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: around the air. Yeah, trade, big trade, But it wasn't

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01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: really off season right the benetrade was made. I think

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01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 1: it was Halloween, right, Steve, right around Halloween time, just

1624
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: after it was week eight of the regular season in

1625
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight or nineteen eighty seven, right after the

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01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: bye week. No, I'm sorry, right after the strike ended

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01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty seven players strike. He was the number

1628
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 1: one player overall taken in that draft, or at least

1629
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 1: number one overall taken by the Colts, did not sign,

1630
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: held out and right after the strike came after the

1631
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 1: guys came in off strike and the strike was settled,

1632
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: that trade was executed between the three teams, the Bills,

1633
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: the Rams, and the Colts, and Cornelius Bennett was a

1634
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill. Yeah, that was big. That was really big.

1635
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: I was on the team then, and man, oh man,

1636
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: the guy walks into the locker room. He's walking around

1637
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: his uniform and like, man, he looks like he looks

1638
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: like a he moves like a point guard, and he's

1639
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: built like an outside linebacker. He was. That was big.

1640
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: That was big season. It was right in the middle

1641
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: of the season, right, it was right around in Halloween,

1642
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: I think Halloween. It was the magnitude of that trade

1643
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: that got everybody really saying wow, right, I mean, it

1644
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: wasn't just going to before free agency. Guys never switched teams, right,

1645
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: You'd see a trade once in a while and all that,

1646
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, three teams, a bunch

1647
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 1: of number one draft picks going back and forth. Players

1648
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson, really solid Greg number one overall draft pick. Man,

1649
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: oh man, it was big, really big. It was big. Bennett.

1650
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: Let me double check here. He was indianapolist called second

1651
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: pick of the eighty seven draft, second overall. Cold said,

1652
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: a second pick, and they chose a he spent it

1653
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: five time Pro Bowl player talking about the your all

1654
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: time favorite offseason splash for the Buffalo Bills that happened.

1655
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: As we said, Halloween didn't really qualify his offseason, but

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01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. Give us a call. Eight oh

1657
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight five fifty two

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01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: five fifty Scott and Cheetawaga has a thought on this. Scott,

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01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the ear. Hey, Fellows, I the

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01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: first name that came to my I didn't do any research.

1661
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: I just went with my gut. Bryce Pop was a

1662
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: huge one back and I want to say mid nineties,

1663
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: ninety five, ninety six. Yeah, I'll tell you what. That

1664
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: wasn't really splashy. But for the lack of splash that

1665
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: we the Bills team got for that, the guy turned

1666
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: into the defensive player of the Year in the NFL.

1667
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: That was an enormous sketch that really didn't get There

1668
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: was kind of a bump in the road for most people.

1669
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, okay, Bryce Pop, Yeah, the Bills got him.

1670
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: He went onto a defense with Cornelia's Ben and Bruce

1671
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: Smith and all of a sudden he comes out and

1672
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: pops loose with seventeen sacks that season. Is defensive player

1673
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: of the Year. That actually for a couple of years, right,

1674
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: he had a three yea played for three six seven yeah,

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01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: three years yeah, and uh his first year there he

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01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 1: had seventeen sacks and no man, oh man, he was.

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01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 1: He was a huge acquisition. I don't think it was splashy,

1678
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: but I'm with you. I don't know. But he came

1679
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: in and had a better first year with the Buffalo

1680
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 1: Bills than Bryce Pope. Thanks for the calling, you know

1681
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: what you know? Um, The pop acquisition reminds me of another.

1682
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't that splashy, though, You're right, it wasn't that splashy.

1683
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: But the Bill signed Chris Spielman. And I remember where

1684
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: I was when I heard. I was at I think

1685
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: the it was. I think I was at the NCAA

1686
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: tournament at the Key Bank Center when they announced that

1687
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: they had signed h Chris Spielman. Ninety six, nineteen ninety six,

1688
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: he signed with the Bills. I think it was March

1689
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: of ninety six during free agency. Not a big splash,

1690
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 1: but a good player, Steven. It's certainly a notable free

1691
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 1: agent signing. Not a huge splash. Entey what do you think, Yeah, yeah,

1692
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: he was. He was a veteran and that people were

1693
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 1: starting to think, well, he's on the back side of

1694
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: his career, but certainly he was. It was a name,

1695
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: a big name that was moving teams and to come

1696
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: to Buffalo. I think, yeah, people were really excited to

1697
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 1: have him because he was one of those guys that

1698
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 1: when he came to the club, brought with him a

1699
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: boatload of respect around the National Football League, and that's

1700
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: always a plus. There's a little bit like, isn't like

1701
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: Tequillo Spikes coming over the Buffalo Bills. Even more so,

1702
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 1: Chris Spielman was revered for his you know, for what

1703
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: he had done in the league and the kind of

1704
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: player he was, So that was I think you're right, Murph.

1705
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: I think that. I think Buffalo fans were really excited

1706
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: to watch him and get to know him more so

1707
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: than even as a football player. Who's the kind of

1708
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: guy he was. What's your all time favorite offseason splash

1709
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. We'll get back to the tweet

1710
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 1: sheet and discussed this when we return. Also, he'll do

1711
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: what's for lunch? Some issues to contemplate. Steve and I

1712
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: will william on those that's coming up next One Bills

1713
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,839
Speaker 1: Live presented about a lot of health. This is Buffalo

1714
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome Back, One Goes Live, John Murphy, Steve Tasker.

1715
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: We got guests coming up at two o'clock, Kevin Clark

1716
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 1: as Steff Reregeford, the Bone Ringer, Dot Down We and

1717
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 1: Tara Lawns on early in this hour. And I'm just

1718
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: scrolling through Twitter. Steve, he's got you know you think

1719
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: of t O is that one year outlier, you know,

1720
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: paid oh nine for the Bills top fifty five passes.

1721
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: But he made a lot of friends in Buffalo that year,

1722
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: and maybe it's just the general niceness of Bills fans.

1723
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of good response to his appearance

1724
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: on our show on Twitter, people saying we love you.

1725
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: Come back and be the leader of the chart. Once

1726
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: a Bill, always a Bill. It kind of surprises me

1727
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: a little bit. I gotta say, Yeah, he handled himself

1728
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: and comported himself extremely well here in Buffalo, much more

1729
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: so than he did another maybe some other spots in

1730
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: his thing. He was nothing but a positive here in Buffalo,

1731
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: held more than held his own on the field, and

1732
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 1: was anything but a problem off the field, And I

1733
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: think too. I've never heard anybody behind the scenes and

1734
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: in the building or any of his teammates say anything

1735
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: but good things about him. Yeah, he was fine. All right?

1736
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: What's for lunch, Steve and I take a look at

1737
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: some issues in the NFL and try to pick one

1738
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: or the other. What's for lunch? You're ready to go, Steve?

1739
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: Who's the best player to come out of retirement to

1740
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 1: return to NFL action? Is it now Rob Gronkowski comes

1741
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: back with the Bucks? Is it um Um Marshawn Lynch

1742
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: who came back to get a year in with Oakland?

1743
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: Or was it Brett Farr who came back out of

1744
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 1: retirement went on to the Vikings and Jets. It's a

1745
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 1: good question. Uh, too soon to put the Gronk in there, right,

1746
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 1: it's too soon. We don't know what. I don't know

1747
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be healthy enough to play, right, right?

1748
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,600
Speaker 1: I think Bret Farm I mean, didn't he kind of

1749
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: get back to almost the champion, didn't get back to

1750
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: the championship game with the Vikings or there about, didn't

1751
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: get a team into the playoffs. Yeah, they were a

1752
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: playoff team, Biking. Yeah, So that's that says a lot.

1753
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 1: Mars Shawn Lynch was was fun for the Raiders for

1754
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 1: a minute, but no, I think Brett Farb was the

1755
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:49,719
Speaker 1: guy who had the most success coming out of retirement

1756
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: of that group. Gree That's where i'd go, right Steelers history.

1757
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 1: Who is the best quarterback in Pittsburgh Steelers history? Is

1758
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: it Ben Roethlisberger or Terry Bradshaw? I don't think I

1759
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: have to think about this much. I think it's Terry

1760
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: Bradshaw fourteen seasons, won four Super Bowl titles in six years.

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01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger hasn't done anything close to that. I think it's

1762
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw. What do you think, Steve Well? Certainly they

1763
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: won more games with Terry Bradshaw at quarterback, But I

1764
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: think Ben Roethlisberger's responsible for more of the success the

1765
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: Steelers have had with him in the two Super Bowls.

1766
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 1: Not for nothing, but the Steelers were known for their defense,

1767
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: not their offense in those Super Bowl years. So I

1768
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: don't but I'll tell you I don't know whether I

1769
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 1: If you're gonna line up today and say which which

1770
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: well today and today's rules, I'll take Ben Roethlisberger. But

1771
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: back then, when the quarterback wasn't protected, it was different.

1772
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw called his own plays too. It's a tough question.

1773
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Both those guys are really good. I tend to lean

1774
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: towards Ben Roethlisberger though, I think he While Terry Bradshaw

1775
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 1: was a good deep bawl thrower, I think Ben Roethlisberger's

1776
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: more accurate and better passer. But the success of four

1777
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: Super Bowls in six years, I mean, you can't. I mean,

1778
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: no matter what you say about the team, Terry Bradshaw

1779
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: was the quarterback through all of them, whether it was

1780
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 1: a defensive Super Bowl or not. And you remember in

1781
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: some of those Super Bowls, particularly one against Dallas, the

1782
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: Steelers hung thirty plus points on him. So, yeah, Terry

1783
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: brad it's hard to go against Terry Bradshaw. But man,

1784
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 1: oh man, are we playing today? Are we playing? I

1785
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 1: think we're playing today. So if it's we're playing today,

1786
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: I'd say I'd say bed. Just because of the era,

1787
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: I'd say Bradshaw, all right, quarterback better fit for the

1788
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: Chargers too, Otago Bloa or Cam Newton. Interesting question. It's

1789
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 1: hard for me to see not that Cam Newton is

1790
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: not good or not camided, but it's when he's on

1791
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: your team, you gotta fit around him. He doesn't fit

1792
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: into your system. So to ask the question, this way

1793
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: better fit for the Chargers, I just throw Cam Newton

1794
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:56,839
Speaker 1: off to the side like he's gonna be our quarterback.

1795
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: We gotta change a lot, we got to accommodate him,

1796
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: and I think it'd be I think a better fit

1797
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 1: would be Ta for the Los Angeles Chargers. Am I crazy? No?

1798
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think two is a better

1799
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 1: option because of his upside and because of his longevity

1800
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 1: ahead of him Cam Newton, you don't know how long

1801
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: he'll last. Now, both those guys think about it. Both

1802
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 1: of them have history of injuries and recent history of injuries,

1803
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: so they both got that going against him. But I'm

1804
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: with Hugh Murph. I think Ta Tagavloa, the style of

1805
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 1: quarterback he is is more conducive to success in today's NFL.

1806
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: Cam Newton took the Carolina Panthers to the Super Bowl,

1807
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: but he was the atomic bomb. Not only was he

1808
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 1: a good thrower, strong arm, big, strong athlete, he was

1809
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 1: also the best short yardage running back in the National

1810
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: Football League, the most productive one. I don't know that

1811
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 1: you build an offense or a team around that unless

1812
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 1: you've got that singular guy. And I don't think that

1813
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: the Chargers are built for that right now. I think

1814
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: Tah will get more out of the guys around him

1815
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: than Cam would because I think, yeah, I think we're

1816
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: saying the same. Cam Newton's on your team. You gotta

1817
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 1: build an offense around him, you know what I mean.

1818
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: You got to accommodate his skill set. And I don't

1819
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 1: know if he's up to that. I don't know if

1820
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: he's up to that like he was five years ago.

1821
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he is. I think you're right, all right,

1822
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: we got a break here. When we come back. Kevin Clark,

1823
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: staff writer for The Ringer, host of Slow Newsday and

1824
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: The Ringer NFL Show, we'll talk about tomorrow's draft. We'll

1825
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 1: talk about the draft weekend. I want to talk to

1826
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: him and get his thoughts on what the Saints are doing.

1827
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 1: They basically will not have any offseason workouts, Sean Payton

1828
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 1: told us players today. We'll see in July when you

1829
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 1: come back for training camp. Interesting, we'll get Kevin Clark's

1830
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 1: thoughts on that. It's One Bill's Live presented by Kalida

1831
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: Health Radio only today, no TV, no Seneca Studio. This

1832
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio being the update from One Bill's Live.

1833
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: Saints coach Sean Payton told us players today they will

1834
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 1: not have any type of offseason program the spring, virtual

1835
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,759
Speaker 1: or otherwise. Peyton shared the news in a video conference

1836
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: with more than eighty players this morning. He said that

1837
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:58,879
Speaker 1: Saints will not have a team led off season program

1838
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: even if the NFL rules change and allow players to

1839
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 1: return to their facilities. The quote from Payton take care

1840
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 1: of your families, your health, and be ready this summer.

1841
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,839
Speaker 1: NFL is still rocking from yesterday's trade announcement, the Patriots

1842
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: agreed to a trade, with Rob Gronkowski going to the Buccaneers,

1843
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 1: a deal that reunites the retired ten end with Tom Brady.

1844
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 1: The Bucks announced the details of the trade yesterday. The

1845
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: wingdam will get a fourth round pick one number one

1846
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: thirty nine overall, and the Saints get Gronkowski and a

1847
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: seventh rounder. Tampa Bay was the only team Gronkowski was

1848
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 1: willing to end his retirement to play for, a source

1849
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: told ESPN. Percy Harvin spent a little time as the

1850
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 1: Bills wide receiver as he's looking forward to returning the football.

1851
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: He's not played since the two thou sixteen season, when

1852
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 1: he played a couple of games with the Buffalo Bills.

1853
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: His agent said at the time that Harvard has done playing,

1854
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: but he said Tuesday he's been training with a former

1855
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: Olympian and he's ready to go to any offensive will

1856
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 1: let him go. Roger Goodell says tomorrow started the NFL

1857
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 1: Draft will provide hope to a sports world in need

1858
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 1: of it. The draft will be conducted with every decision

1859
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: maker working from home. Goodell will announce first round picks

1860
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 1: tom An nine from the basement of his home in

1861
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: suburban New York City, and the draft will wrap up

1862
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 1: on Saturday. In the NFL will beginning shift to thorny

1863
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 1: your issues like when or if to begin training camp

1864
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,839
Speaker 1: and when the season might be able to play. Washington

1865
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: Redskins talking to a couple of teams about offensive lineman

1866
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: Trent Williams. His time with Watchington is nearing an end.

1867
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,799
Speaker 1: The Redskins have talked to multiple teams involving a trade

1868
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: involving Williams. According to NFL Network, is trade value likely

1869
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 1: at his highest over the next twenty four hours. And

1870
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: there you go. Then is the update from One Bill's Life,

1871
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,560
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. John Murphy's team Tesker. Ready to

1872
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: start our number three and happy to start our number

1873
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 1: three with our next guest, staff writer for The Ringer,

1874
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 1: host of Slow Newsday and The Ringer NFL Show. Happy

1875
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: to have Kevin Clark on the line with us. Hello Kevin,

1876
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tsker over here in Buffalo. Thanks coming,

1877
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm with us today. Thanks for having the guys. It's

1878
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: good to talk you. Hey, Kevin, what do you make

1879
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: of Sean Payton's announcement no workouts, virtual or otherwise from

1880
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. What do you think is behind that? Well,

1881
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's really hard to do. And

1882
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,600
Speaker 1: this is something that I've been doing some reporting on

1883
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. What this looks like. How

1884
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 1: they're going to monitor this stuff? What you know, if

1885
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: the guy's gonna do one hundred sprints, you're gonna put

1886
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 1: a camera out there. Charles Robinson has to report that

1887
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 1: maybe it's almost like a peloton type thing where you

1888
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: can monitor the workout in the heart rate, and that's

1889
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: how they get the data back to the coaches and

1890
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 1: the trainers or whatever. But I think I understand why

1891
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to do it and go through the hassle.

1892
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 1: I think they have to figure out a way to

1893
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: pay the guys who have the sensive. There's a lot

1894
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: of those guys. You know, a guy like Teddy Bridgewater.

1895
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: Charles Robinsons on our podcast last week, and he said

1896
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: that the NFLPA told players like Teddy Bridgewater not to

1897
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 1: get workout bonuses this year because of how uncertain this

1898
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: is going to be, and some players like Teddy Bridgewater

1899
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 1: did it anyway. And so I don't know how you

1900
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 1: how you hash out if a guy is going to

1901
01:34:56,479 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 1: be owed five hundred and seven hundred thousand dollars, was

1902
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:01,679
Speaker 1: it not he works out this year of teams aren't

1903
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 1: going to do that. You know, Like Sean Payton is

1904
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 1: an unconventional coach. You know, I obviously had a firsthand

1905
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: experience with COVID nineteen a couple of weeks ago. He

1906
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 1: understands how serious this is. I understand why she would

1907
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 1: want to do it, But I would also understand why

1908
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 1: you'd want to monitor and make sure these guys are

1909
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 1: in shape and taking their office and program seriously. Yeah,

1910
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 1: And do you think there's anything that some of these

1911
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: head coaches are getting some pushback? I mean, if you're

1912
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 1: gonna give every guy an iPad or give every guy

1913
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 1: a watch, do all the technological stuff, what kind of

1914
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: expense is incurred by the club And would there any

1915
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 1: be any clubs that would maybe balk at putting into

1916
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,640
Speaker 1: time and the effort to get so little return out

1917
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Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, I think the iPads are easy to

1918
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 1: do and probably worth it in the sense that you

1919
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: want all of these guys to understand the offense and

1920
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 1: what you're installing, and maybe you do a couple of

1921
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 1: zoom sessions. So listen, with New Orleans, everyone knows that offense.

1922
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 1: Everyone knows it is going to be continuity there. It's

1923
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 1: a veteran team. I don't think it's the same as

1924
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 1: maybe a Dallas where Mike McCarthy is trying to install

1925
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,719
Speaker 1: his offense. Now you bring up an interesting point about

1926
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 1: just the sort of low reward for a workout monitoring. Yeah,

1927
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:13,640
Speaker 1: I think that's the problem. I mean, what are you

1928
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 1: going to send an IT guy around the country to

1929
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 1: go to each of these guys homes. Maybe they have

1930
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 1: more than one home. Maybe they're going to change places

1931
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: in little of the quarantine. I mean, it's hard to

1932
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 1: monitor that stuff. And at some point, if you're the Saints,

1933
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 1: maybe this assume if these guys are on the same page. Again,

1934
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: if you have Drew Brees, Michael Thomas and better an

1935
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,639
Speaker 1: offensive line and the guys they have, I don't think

1936
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 1: you need to do a lot of monitoring. I think

1937
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: it's different if you're a younger team or you're trying

1938
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 1: to install a culture. I think you're in a really

1939
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 1: bad place right now. If you're trying to install a

1940
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: culture or or you know, kind of build something this offseason,

1941
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 1: that's going to be a huge disaster. If you're a

1942
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 1: new coaching stat if you're an older coach an older

1943
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 1: team like the Saints, I understand it. I wonder, Kevin,

1944
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 1: if the Saints will be outliers here or maybe trend

1945
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: centers any four. I think that it's going to be

1946
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 1: along those lines. You know. I talked to a guy

1947
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago in the NFL who said

1948
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 1: veteran coaching staffs are gonna thrive. New coaching staffs are

1949
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 1: gonna struggle. And I think that the new coaching staff

1950
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 1: are gonna try as hard as they possibly can. I mean,

1951
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 1: think about all the things that coach McDermott did when

1952
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 1: he first got to Buffalo, and think about him. If

1953
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 1: he didn't have post draft miniicamp, June miniicamp, a full

1954
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: training camp, he would it would have been really really

1955
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 1: hard for him to change the culture in that way.

1956
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 1: And so I think that the veteran coaches understand their team.

1957
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 1: They will probably scale down the off season. The guys

1958
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 1: who were just trying to build something, they'll try to

1959
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 1: keep it the same as much as they can. And

1960
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, maybe we see some scaled back

1961
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 1: stuff by James what is worrying And speaking of veteran coaches,

1962
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, they ended up having to trade Rob Gronkowski.

1963
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 1: Gronkowski finds himself landing back with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

1964
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 1: by his own design or by his own choosing, left

1965
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots holding the bag. Do you think Gronk wants

1966
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 1: to play football that bad? Does he want to just

1967
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: play with Tom Brady? Does he just want to have

1968
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: some football where it's fun again? And how much of

1969
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 1: that goes back to Bill Belichick and how much Rob

1970
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 1: Gronkowski did not enjoy playing there his last few seasons

1971
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: in New England. Yeah, I think the reports from out

1972
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 1: of New England where he just wasn't having a very

1973
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: good time the last couple of years, I think you

1974
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 1: have to marry that with the back injuries and how

1975
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 1: horrible back injuries can be, especially for a tight end

1976
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:31,720
Speaker 1: who's taking big hits over the middle. I think that

1977
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:35,560
Speaker 1: when you have a guy who retires young because of injuries,

1978
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 1: you always have to think about just the idea that

1979
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: you get a little bit healthier and want to play again.

1980
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Speaker 1: I think that that was always a possibility for Gronks.

1981
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 1: This is the guy who loved football but he fell

1982
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 1: out of love with it because of the back injury.

1983
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 1: He heals a little bit enough to be a WWWU

1984
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 1: champion for one of the bell so he knew he

1985
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 1: was at least in shape. So I think that it's

1986
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 1: a combination of everything. I think going down to play

1987
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady again in a more environment in the

1988
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians is probably something that way. It's probably something

1989
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: that really appealed to him. But I also think that

1990
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Speaker 1: the biggest thing is is if he wasn't healthy, he

1991
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it, because I think that, you know, the

1992
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,560
Speaker 1: last couple of years of Gronk. I was around that

1993
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: team a lot because they were going to the Super Bowl.

1994
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 1: He was he was pretty down. He wasn't Gronk. And

1995
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 1: I think that he kind of rediscovered himself over the

1996
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 1: past year, got a little healthier. This all makes sense.

1997
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have come back to New England and plays

1998
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: anybody else but Tom Brady, and I think that you know,

1999
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: Julian Edelan probably feels very lonely right now. Yeah. Kevin Clark,

2000
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 1: staff rider for the Ringer, is our guest online. Kevin,

2001
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 1: how much Gronk will they get in Tampa Bay? I

2002
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 1: had an over and under session with a friend of

2003
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 1: mine who lives in Tampa yesterday and I said, ten

2004
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 1: games over and under? How many games is Cronk ready for?

2005
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: He was pretty banged up his last couple of years

2006
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Speaker 1: in New England. Yeah, I mean ten sounds right. It

2007
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 1: depends what kind of football shape he'll be in. Remember,

2008
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 1: this is the weirdest offseason in the history of football.

2009
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: What is going to happen and how how you can

2010
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 1: rehab or and that kind of stuff that that remains

2011
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 1: to be seen. What happens if he picks up an injury,

2012
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, when he's just trying to work out in

2013
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 1: June or early July and you don't have the NFL

2014
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 1: facilities there, or you don't even have the capability to

2015
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 1: go seek out doctors, a specialist or whatever. So it's

2016
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 1: a bad time to be an injury prone player. I

2017
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 1: think ten games is right. If I had to pick

2018
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 1: on the over under, i'd stay over. Maybe he gets

2019
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 1: to eleven or twelve. Maybe you do because he's such

2020
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 1: a special player. And we saw this with in the

2021
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl where he did nothing for a while and

2022
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 1: he was really banged up in twenty eighteen, and then

2023
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 1: he makes the play to win the Super Bowl against

2024
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,679
Speaker 1: the Ramps. So maybe you do almost like an NBA

2025
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:46,639
Speaker 1: style load management with Gronk because he's so special, because

2026
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 1: you know how banged up he's been, And maybe you

2027
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,680
Speaker 1: don't play him for all sixteen games if he's not

2028
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: feeling it one week, just sit him out if it's

2029
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 1: not a huge, huge game. What do you think of

2030
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: if Bruce arians seems like the kind of coach would

2031
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:00,720
Speaker 1: be receptive to that. They seem like they've got a

2032
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:02,839
Speaker 1: lot of the pieces in place to be a contender,

2033
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 1: although they are in the division with the Saints. I mean,

2034
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 1: that seems to be the competitive balance right there between

2035
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Saints. How about Bruce Arians and

2036
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 1: all this, what's he get he gets dropped in his lap?

2037
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: He may be the coach with the most pressure of

2038
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: anybody in al right now because of the things that

2039
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 1: that with Tom Brady and Gronkowski being dropped in his

2040
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:27,560
Speaker 1: lap and the expectations being raised. Yeah, I mean, the

2041
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 1: funny thing was it is he won't feel that pressure

2042
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: because I was around a lot of his Cardinals teams,

2043
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, when they were were flying a couple of

2044
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 1: years ago, and the atmosphere he keeps is really really loose.

2045
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 1: And I remember visiting they were at the Greenbrier a

2046
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 1: couple of years ago for a week, and I just

2047
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:47,560
Speaker 1: remember the vibe around that team. It was so relaxed

2048
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 1: and they didn't feel you know, I think they went

2049
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 1: to the NFC Champions Game that year, but they didn't

2050
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 1: they didn't feel any pressure. And I feel like his ability.

2051
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 1: You know, one of the things he's told me many

2052
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 1: times is that, you know, his ability to connect with veterans,

2053
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 1: and he has he has a saying, uh, um, you know,

2054
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:09,600
Speaker 1: just yell at him and hug him later. And I

2055
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 1: think that that's that is his philosophy. And he likes

2056
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:18,919
Speaker 1: to keep the locker room as um as tight as possible.

2057
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 1: And I think that if anybody can can carry these

2058
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: expectations in the sea against Bruce Arians, I think he

2059
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 1: knows how to run a better in locker room. I

2060
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 1: think that this won't be a problem for him. Live

2061
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Speaker 1: with Kevin Clark, staff writer for The Ringer. Kevin, you

2062
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 1: wrote a piece of one up yesterday, I think on

2063
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 1: The Ringer Welcome to the NFL's first virtual Draft, and

2064
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 1: you quoted Brandon Bean, who had a couple of issues with,

2065
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 1: you know, trying to connect with players. He thinks he

2066
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 1: can learn something about how eager these players are to

2067
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 1: play in the NFL based on their connection times, right,

2068
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:52,679
Speaker 1: whether it's Skype or a zoom or whatever. Huh. Yeah.

2069
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 1: So essentially, what with the last month of the draft

2070
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: process is zero four is you know, in person needing

2071
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: it's get to know these guys. A lot of times

2072
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,719
Speaker 1: that's guys they're not totally sure on whether that's medically

2073
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 1: or character wise. And you'd think that because you lose

2074
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,600
Speaker 1: these sort of things that you wouldn't be able to

2075
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 1: get a read on guys. And what Brandon told me

2076
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 1: that he would not alone in this is that you

2077
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,759
Speaker 1: still get to see these guys personality and how punctual

2078
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 1: they are or whatever, even with the zoom and the Skype.

2079
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: And Brandon said, there's been a couple of instances where

2080
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: someone didn't answer their skype appointment, or you know, he

2081
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 1: texted them and said, well time works for you and

2082
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 1: they didn't text back. And so you know, there hasn't

2083
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 1: been a ton of those, he said, but there have

2084
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 1: been enough to where you get a read on guys.

2085
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 1: And so I think the gems are learning that guys

2086
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 1: who they would have normally had problems with, whether that's

2087
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: missing a flight or not communicating well with the football

2088
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 1: op staff, those guys that are revealing themselves to be

2089
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: a little bit flawed in this new draft process as well.

2090
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 1: I think the NFL teams have to adjust to this.

2091
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: I think there's always the last month. It's always been overrated,

2092
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 1: it's a little bit overkill, and talking to gms and

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Speaker 1: scouts and agents that that seems to be the consensus.

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Speaker 1: But the smart teams and I'm very much considered the

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Speaker 1: build a smart team are learning how to adapt. One

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Speaker 1: of the things I gotta ask you too about the

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Speaker 1: evaluation process that these guys are off limits, is it

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Speaker 1: seems like the small school guys, and there's always a

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Speaker 1: good percentage of players from small schools, those guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna get overlooked because usually they can get caught up

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Speaker 1: in the big schools. They'll come up, they'll they'll show

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Speaker 1: up at Pro Days. The word gets out. But now

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Speaker 1: that since this shutdown happened so early in the offseason,

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Speaker 1: the small school guys kind of might fall through the

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Speaker 1: cracks and there might be some pretty good players available

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Speaker 1: as the rookie free agents. Yeah, but unfortunately for them,

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Speaker 1: the flip side is there's no going to be no

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Speaker 1: rookie mini camp to try these guys out. You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I remember a story a couple of years

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Speaker 1: ago that Bill Belichi told about Malcolm Butler. And because

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler went to West Alabama, they didn't have accurate

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Speaker 1: times and West Alabama, you know, they had some bad

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Speaker 1: forty times in BA athleticism numbers four. They weren't totally accurate,

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Speaker 1: and so they thought, hey, let's go on tape let's

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Speaker 1: just bring him in, you know, for that post draft

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Speaker 1: workout in early May, and he obviously showed that he

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Speaker 1: was a really good ball skills guy, and he obviously

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Speaker 1: showed you should make the team. They created a roster

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Speaker 1: spotform that's not going to happen this time. If you

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Speaker 1: have a player from West Alabama, you have a player

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Speaker 1: from Division three or whatever it is, you can't take

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Speaker 1: a flyer on that guy. And so it's going to

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Speaker 1: be really hard for players to make a name for

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Speaker 1: themselves unless they've already established themselves. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: the best rookie draft class ever, undrafted season, undrafted rookie

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Speaker 1: free agent class ever. But it's gonna be hard for

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Speaker 1: those guys to stick without an off season. Kevin Clark

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Speaker 1: Steph writer for their Inner. Hey, Kevin, you mentioned how

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Speaker 1: highly you regard Brandon Bean and the Bills I guess

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Speaker 1: overall intelligence, and in your post about Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: NFL's first virtual Draft, you cite Brandon Bean and the

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Speaker 1: Bills person off department is really getting to work early

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Speaker 1: on engineering for this draft this weekend. Put sending things

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Speaker 1: up right. Brandon didn't waste any time putting it together

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Speaker 1: at his home, did he Yeah. So Dan Evans, the

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Speaker 1: vice president from Information Technologies, about ten days before the

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Speaker 1: state wide shutdown, started to install this stuff into everybody's homes.

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Speaker 1: And this is the time when Brandon thought that it

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Speaker 1: wasn't not necessarily going to be necessary for everybody, especially

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Speaker 1: a handy, thought that even if everybody else couldn't come in,

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Speaker 1: he was going to come in because if it's set up,

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Speaker 1: and obviously he didn't anticipate a statewide shutdown where you

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Speaker 1: couldn't even come there even if you didn't want to.

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Speaker 1: And so that's that's where the edges are right now.

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Speaker 1: It's it's people having people like Dan Evans, it's having

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Speaker 1: people who understand the technology part of it and not

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01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 1: being caught bat but because at some point you couldn't

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Speaker 1: even if you wanted to have all the technology right now,

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Speaker 1: you couldn't get it. You had to have started a

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Speaker 1: month ago, and the bills did. They were on top

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Speaker 1: of this, and I think that's an edge going into Thursday.

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Speaker 1: It's been an offseason where it's been strange. We saw

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady shift teams, we saw Teddy Bridgewater, we saw

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Speaker 1: a whole a handful of quality, proven quarterbacks available like

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01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 1: no other time in history. Why is it that's the case?

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01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 1: And why are there so many even every year young

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01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 1: a handful of young quarterbacks who were top prospects coming out.

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Speaker 1: Why is the quarterback position all of a sudden one

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Speaker 1: that seems to be abundant. Whereas for decades Murph and

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Speaker 1: I grew up in a place where quarterback you couldn't

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Speaker 1: find one of those guys. Why has that changed? I

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01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 1: think it's amazing what's happened in the quarterback position of

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Speaker 1: the past five years, because I think you can manufacture

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks a little bit easier, almost to Jared Goff phenomenon

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Speaker 1: where we see him under Jeff Fisher, and he has

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Speaker 1: one of the worst rookie seasons in the history of football.

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I think he had similar numbers to Andrew

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Speaker 1: Walter if you remember him, and then the next year

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Speaker 1: he looks like an elite quarterback. He gets to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl a year later, and you go from there.

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Speaker 1: And I think that what's happening now is that you

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Speaker 1: either have a plan at quarterback and you can get

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Speaker 1: a guy who maybe wouldn't be as good ten years

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Speaker 1: ago with the rule changes, with the offense, you can

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Speaker 1: get him to a point where you feel comfortable, and

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01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:58,919
Speaker 1: then you have the rookie contracts, which make young quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: so valuable. Teams are going to opt for a B

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Speaker 1: plus rookie rookie contract quarterback over a veteran, and so

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Speaker 1: that pushes out Cam Newton, that pushes out of Jami's.

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Speaker 1: Winston would have gotten a job probably five to six

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Speaker 1: seven years ago if you were a free agent with

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Speaker 1: his skill set. And I think that it's just really

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Speaker 1: changing how the teams view quarterbacks. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be really interesting to see how this develops.

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Speaker 1: You know, Burrow, two of these guys, as long as

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Speaker 1: they're healthy, you're going to be pro ready, justin Herbert's

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01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 1: the same way. These guys are throwing so much at

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Speaker 1: the college level. In the high school level, they're more

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Speaker 1: pro ready. And it's really changing how the game is played,

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01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 1: quite frankly, because these quarterbacks are ready to go from

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Speaker 1: day one. I agree with all of those answers, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: but I wonder also if part of it is and

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Speaker 1: this is just my theory, coaches in the NFL have

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Speaker 1: adapted to the type of quarterbacks are getting out of

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Speaker 1: college right. They know what to do with smaller, maybe

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Speaker 1: more mobile quarterbacks more so than they did ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: Is that true? What do you think it's become a

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Speaker 1: league of what do you do well? Instead of what

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Speaker 1: do we want to coach? And I think that that

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Speaker 1: wasn't the case. You know, I remember a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago talking to Mike Malarkey, who I like a

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Speaker 1: lot as a person, but you know, he got Marcus

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01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 1: Mariota and he wanted to make him a quarterback that

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01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 1: was more like Mike Malarkey's offense than what Organ had

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Speaker 1: given him. And I think that that is a mistake

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Speaker 1: and I don't think that would happen now. And I

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01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 1: think that teams understand how to mold around their quarterback

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01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 1: rather than molder quarterback to them. And I think that

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Speaker 1: it's been a huge shame in the last three four

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Speaker 1: or five years. One last thing about this quarterback and

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Speaker 1: the free agency and the guys coming out of college

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Speaker 1: about I got to ask you how much has the

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Speaker 1: game itself changed? Has the league? In the NFL kind

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01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 1: of protected quarterbacks opened the game up and evolved away

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Speaker 1: from the straight dropback game in order to make it

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01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: more well for lack of a better way to say it,

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Speaker 1: make it easier to play that position. How much has

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Speaker 1: the game changed from the way it was in the seventies, eighties,

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01:49:57,479 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 1: and even the nineties to what it is today, to

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01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:03,639
Speaker 1: where there are more guys capable of being successful. It's

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Speaker 1: a huge part of the story, a huge part of

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01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 1: the story because you think about some of these guys

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01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 1: who are not necessarily run first, but at least they

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01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 1: run you know what, five, six, seven times a game,

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Speaker 1: and if you could get those shots off like defenses

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01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:20,600
Speaker 1: could twenty years ago, I think that that that's almost impossible.

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Speaker 1: And I think that the rule changes down the field

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01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 1: with illegal contact opening up receivers to more open passes.

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Speaker 1: That's been huge. But I also think that the way

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Speaker 1: that the NFL teams have protected their quarterbacks that they

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01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:34,719
Speaker 1: had to do that have made it a more wide

2232
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 1: open game for everybody, And I think that's that's trickled down.

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Speaker 1: I think would have been really hard to play out

2234
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Speaker 1: of the pocket like a lot of these young quarterbacks

2235
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Speaker 1: do under the nineteen ninety nine rules package, and I

2236
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 1: think that that's opened a lot of things up. I

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01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 1: think RPOs have helped because the completion percentages are so high,

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01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: so I think, yeah, it's easier than ever to play

2239
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks because quite frankly, the league one that they want

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Speaker 1: their quarterback healthy because they know that that's why people watch.

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Speaker 1: And it's been a huge, huge benefit for quarterbacks. Kevin

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01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 1: I had an epiphany on this show yesterday talking. We

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01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 1: had to Charles Davis from NFL Network on and he

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01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: convinced me that yes, it's different year, and it's gonna

2245
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 1: be a weird draft and it's gonna look different, feel different.

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01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:19,600
Speaker 1: There's certain obstacles on the way these teams, but you

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01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 1: know what, it's gonna be a pretty fun draft when

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01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:25,600
Speaker 1: you look at a as always the players available and

2249
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,560
Speaker 1: be the technology the teams have to go through, and

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Speaker 1: the intrigue you know with trade crazy trades coming just yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be maybe one of the more

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01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 1: interesting drafts of all time. This weekend, well, I'm just

2253
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 1: interested to see what happens as far as is there

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01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 1: a technological screw up somewhere along the line. What happens

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Speaker 1: when that does happen. They said they would stop the

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Speaker 1: clock if there's a legitimate tech issue. You know, what

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Speaker 1: happens with the quarterbacks. You know, there's been so many theories, John,

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01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 1: And that's what's intriguing to me is there's been so

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01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 1: many theories that, oh, no one's gonna take flyers on

2260
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 1: athletes of the produces because they're not gonna have an

2261
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 1: off season, or no one's going to take medically uncertain players,

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01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, higher than they should because they have been

2263
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 1: able to get the recheck. Someone like Tah who's only

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01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 1: been able to be proven healthy via sort of remote

2265
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 1: workouts and then obviously consulting with his doctors and then

2266
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:18,640
Speaker 1: the college doctors as well, and some of the some

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01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 1: of the NFL trainings with the designated designated for it.

2268
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 1: But I think that what I'm interesting to see is

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01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 1: that everybody has had an idea what this draft that's

2270
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:27,719
Speaker 1: gonna look like a lot of them have been different,

2271
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: and now on Thursday we get to find out exactly

2272
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 1: who's been right about what impact this whole thing will

2273
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 1: have on the draft. It starts with at the top,

2274
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Speaker 1: as it always does, with the top pick, Joe Burrow,

2275
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 1: and then of course a guy who might have could

2276
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: have would have should have been a top pick into

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01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 1: a tag of Ilah who got hurt and has had

2278
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 1: some injury problems. There's no question a lot of people

2279
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 1: will say because of Two's abilities younger in his career

2280
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 1: at Alabama, he was the prototypical pro for a long

2281
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 1: period of time is his college. He's proven at time

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01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 1: and time again he's a pro quality quarterback if he

2283
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 1: can stay healthy. As opposed to a Joe Burrow who

2284
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 1: had this one unbelievable year won the Heisman who came in.

2285
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 1: Both those guys seem to if all things being equal

2286
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: and they were both healthy and all that too, it

2287
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 1: seems like maybe a better long term answer, or at

2288
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 1: least the more sure answer. How do you see these

2289
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:22,200
Speaker 1: guys fallen and you throw in all the other couple

2290
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:24,920
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, handful of quarterbacks that are there, how do

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01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 1: you see it fallen in the top five? Who's gonna

2292
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 1: trade in? Who's gonna trade out? Give us your gut

2293
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 1: feeling about the uncertainties at the top of the draft. Yeah,

2294
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:36,799
Speaker 1: I think. I think if I were to guess, obviously

2295
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 1: Burrow goes number one, that's that's final way, And I

2296
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 1: would have been intrigued. I mean, not just listen. I

2297
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:43,640
Speaker 1: would like to have seen too a healthy because I

2298
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 1: think he's a great person and I think he's a

2299
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:47,559
Speaker 1: great quarterback. But also I just feel like it would

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01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 1: make the decision so much more interesting, and I think

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01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 1: that it would have been almost you know, like like

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Speaker 1: some of the great one two debates we've always had

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01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 1: Manning Leaf being the most notable from from twenty years ago.

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01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 1: Not to anybody here is Ryan Leaf. But I think

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01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 1: that how it shakes out with the health and the

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01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 1: hip and and Tah, I think it goes Burrow goes one.

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Speaker 1: If I had to guess, Tuah goes to Miami, and

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01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 1: then Herbert goes to the Chargers. I think that, um,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna have to trade up to

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Speaker 1: two or three either of those teams. I think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the last couple of days, from my perspective,

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01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:26,759
Speaker 1: Herbert's been from when I talked to a lot of GMS,

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01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 1: they think that we've all been underrating Herbert and that

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01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 1: he's been sort of minimized because he had not the

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01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:35,839
Speaker 1: breakout season we thought. But he has all the tools,

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01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 1: and so I think that that all three of those

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01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 1: guys go in the top ten. I think that there

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01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: have been so much, so much smoke also to speak

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01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 1: about two A falling out of the top ten because

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Speaker 1: of his injury history and because he's the way that

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01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 1: this offseason has gone. But I think that the history

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01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 1: has shown us anything. If it's a talented quarterback, he'll

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01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 1: be overdrafted. An owner will will demand it, or an

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01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 1: owner will will mandate. They need that. They're their gm

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Speaker 1: ALP the quote back petition, and a guy a tool

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Speaker 1: will go higher than than than well we think, Hey, Kevin,

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01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:11,720
Speaker 1: thanks for this. You're staying healthy. I hope right everything's well? Absolutely, Yeah,

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01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 1: Los Angeles is it's getting warmer. Um, it's a nice

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01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 1: place to be holed up just because we're you can

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01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 1: still walk around and all that stuff. So yeah, happy

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01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 1: and healthy and just trying to write it out. Thanks Kevin,

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01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 1: appreciate you being on with us absolutely anytime. Guys. Thanks

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Speaker 1: Kevin Clark, staff writer for The Ringer, the host of

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Speaker 1: Slow Newsday and The Ringer NFL Show, joining us to

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01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 1: talk about tomorrow's draft. He really good piece up on

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Speaker 1: The Ringer yesterday. He writes, Welcome to the NFL's first

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01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 1: virtual draft, and a lot of Brandon being information in there.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about toa he is a compelling figure in

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01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 1: tomorrow night's first round of the draft. Many people have

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01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 1: linked him to the Dolphins for a while, Miami sitting

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01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 1: there with the fifth overall pick. The reports now coming

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01:55:57,720 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 1: up steve that the Dolphins are trying to move up,

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01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 1: trying to get ahead of the ahead of the New

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01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:07,879
Speaker 1: York Giants, who are third tomorrow Detroit's third. Uh, Giants

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01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 1: are right in front of them. Like, let's see, I

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01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 1: got it right here. The Giants are four or Dolphins

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01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 1: are five, and the Dolphins are trying to According to

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01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 1: several reports, including Mike Lombardi, who was going to Detroit right,

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01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 1: Dolphins want to get ahead of the Giants, but they're

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01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 1: not going for two of us. They want to get

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01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 1: the best tackle, best offensive tackle. That's real. Michael Lombardi says.

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01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 1: That's intriguing, isn't it? I think it is too. I mean,

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01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 1: is uh? As Kevin just said, TWA has kind of

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01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 1: falling off as far as a premium draft prospect, and

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01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 1: maybe the Dolphins think, all right, we can muddle through

2356
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:48,400
Speaker 1: a year with Ryan Fitzpator. But there's some really good

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01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 1: tackles here. And if you're if you're gonna draft, if

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01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna move up ahead of the Giants and get

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01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 1: the third offensive tackle on the draft. Um you're looking,

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01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm getting there are There are probably two or three

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01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:05,200
Speaker 1: a legitimate first round prospects at tackle in this draft,

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01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 1: and they include uh Trsted Whorf's Andrew Thomas and Mecki

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01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 1: Beckton from Louisville. Beckton has, of course a positive drug

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01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 1: test apparently from the combine, but those would be the

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01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 1: three they would be trying to get if they're indeed

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Speaker 1: gonna move up. See it's happening now. See we're like

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Speaker 1: twenty seven hours away. I gotta tell you. Yeah, Kevin

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01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 1: Clark kind of got me excited for the draft. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of now I'm thinking, all, well, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: and I know that there's gonna be some movement up

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Speaker 1: to the top. I think Miami, there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: teams that have so much draft capital it's impossible to

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Speaker 1: think they won't wheel at Denver's got ten picks, us

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Speaker 1: got twelve, and so do so do the Vikings. The

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Speaker 1: Vikings have twelve picks, Green Bay Packers have ten picks,

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins Jaguars, the Jaguars have twelve, and the course,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins have fourteen picks. They lead the league. The

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01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 1: Giants have ten picks. I mean, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams that have a lot of draft capital, and you know,

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01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 1: obviously Miami and they've got a ton of it. Um.

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01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 1: You know, they lead the league in all the value

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01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 1: charts in how many drives because of the three first

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01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 1: rounders that they hold. So I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: what happens in all of this, But I know this,

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01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 1: some peep teams are gonna shuffle around. And I think this.

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01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 1: I think some some team because of the the virtual

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01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:34,959
Speaker 1: nature the draft Murph, I think they're gonna force teams

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01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 1: to stay on top and make it as tough as

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01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 1: they can to keep track of everything, and they're gonna

2390
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 1: shuffle around see if they can get an edge on

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01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 1: some teams by making some moves. I just think teams

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01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 1: will try and go for they'll be out for blood.

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01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:51,440
Speaker 1: And I think they'll force teams who aren't tech savvy,

2394
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 1: or they'll test them to make sure they are tech savvy,

2395
01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, I got the sense

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01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:59,120
Speaker 1: he'll do it. I got the sense from Kevin Clark, didn't.

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01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:01,280
Speaker 1: We didn't get a chance ask him, but it almost

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01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 1: sounds like he is anticipating some technical uh missteps tomorrow night,

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01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 1: doesn't it some real technical file ups. I think it

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01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 1: sounds like he's into spinning that I happened, I think so.

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01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 1: But I think also the league's gonna say, well, everybody,

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01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 1: hold up for a minute, you know, and they'll say,

2403
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:17,320
Speaker 1: what's what's your problem? Okay, fix it, We'll give you.

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01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 1: We'll give you a couple of minutes, you know what

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01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, and that that will knock go over

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01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 1: well in some some places either, you know, if that happen,

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01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:27,520
Speaker 1: why do they get five extra minutes? Give us what?

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01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 1: You know, Washington gets five extra minutes to pick you know,

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01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 1: Chase Young and the Detroit Lions are sitting there right

2410
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:37,000
Speaker 1: behind him going, yeah, hurry it out, let's go, you know,

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01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 1: and even give us extra minutes. What's right? So they

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01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 1: are Look, you know, the thirty two general managers, they

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01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:47,080
Speaker 1: are among the most competitive people you'll ever run into.

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01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:49,680
Speaker 1: They want to win. They want to win every day.

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01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:52,200
Speaker 1: They want to win, especially tomorrow in this weekend. And

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01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 1: you know this too, Murphy, they are going to have

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01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 1: the rule book out. And now you said, you know,

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02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,120
Speaker 1: he said this and this and that what's going on,

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02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:04,880
Speaker 1: and the commissioner just gonna you know, you would think

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02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:07,840
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell is gonna at some points gonna have to

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02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 1: pull out his scepter and start banging, you know, and

2422
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 1: start banging guys on the head and say, hey, shut

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02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:16,000
Speaker 1: up and sit down. You know we're handling this. You're right,

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02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 1: I just you just know it's gonna happen. Doesn't he

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02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 1: lose some of his power working from his basement. I

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02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:23,320
Speaker 1: would think he lose some credibility, you know, right next

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Speaker 1: to the washer and dryer, and it's basically had a

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02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 1: long arm of the commissioner man. The scepter will have

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Speaker 1: a telescope, telescoping feature, right, He'll be able to reach out.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. You're right, right, you're looking forward

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02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 1: to the draft, right. I caught the fever yesterday when

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02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:38,560
Speaker 1: Charles Davis talked to us about it. You got it

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Speaker 1: today from Kevin Clark. Really fun, Yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 1: First round, even when even when the Bills not involved.

2435
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 1: Who is your favorite what's your favorite all time offseason

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Speaker 1: splash for the Bills. That's our topic of the day,

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Speaker 1: and we have about thirty minutes le have to take

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Speaker 1: your phone calls three five fifty outside Buffalo toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We'll

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Speaker 1: get back to the tweet sheet sending a tweet. We'll

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Speaker 1: just guy this and more of when we return. It's

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Speaker 1: One Goes Live presented by Collatta Health Radio cover jonly.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills d Welcome back. One Goes Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Collatta Helper. On the home stretch of the show,

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Speaker 1: we got phone lines open eight o three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty outside Buffalo's toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. About the draft tomorrow, About your

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02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:29,160
Speaker 1: favorite all time favorite offseason splash for the Bills. Whatever

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Speaker 1: you'd like to talk about, Dan and Buffalo on the

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Speaker 1: line with us. Hello, Dan, you're on the air. Hey guys,

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02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:36,800
Speaker 1: a great show. I'm good to hear from t O

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Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it was interesting. It's good. We'll talk

2453
02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:44,480
Speaker 1: about this virtual draft. At least you wanted to worry

2454
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 1: about getting booed when he goes from the podium, right,

2455
02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:49,879
Speaker 1: he'll usually boo him when he goes up there, always,

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02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:54,360
Speaker 1: they always do. They had talked and laughed and joked

2457
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:57,800
Speaker 1: about maybe piping in booing just for old time's sake.

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02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:01,360
Speaker 1: Interesting enough, But they're not. I don't think they're gonna

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02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:02,880
Speaker 1: do that. But yeah, a lot a lot has been

2460
02:02:02,920 --> 02:02:05,400
Speaker 1: said about what they're gonna do when when the commissioner

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02:02:05,440 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 1: comes on you can do in the privacy of your

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Speaker 1: own home, though, Are you gonna boot game when the

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Speaker 1: commissioner shows up on your screen tomorrow? Yeah? Probably? You know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what he has to say. Yeah, I'm just out of habit,

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Speaker 1: I think, Steve, I don't know. I confess I know

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02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:25,320
Speaker 1: the commissioner a little bit. I don't know the ages

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02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:26,960
Speaker 1: of his children, but I think it'd be great if

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02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 1: he had a couple of kids there in his basement

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02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:32,320
Speaker 1: with him and he encouraged them to boot, just to

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Speaker 1: provide the background. And they probably have more to booth

2471
02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:39,480
Speaker 1: than about than anybody Else's funny at this point of

2472
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:41,600
Speaker 1: the lockdown, I'm sure they're ready to boo their dad,

2473
02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:44,600
Speaker 1: aren't we all? Really? I mean, you want us to

2474
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:47,880
Speaker 1: boo you? Where do I sign up? I think? I

2475
02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:50,880
Speaker 1: think if you're not only this, I'll be booing you

2476
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:54,440
Speaker 1: in the seventh round too. Can I boot tomorrow it

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02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:58,280
Speaker 1: as well? Dad? Be great? Let's get back to the

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Speaker 1: tweet Chief Boxer by Corrigan Move Systems, the official movers

2479
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Steve the question, what's your all

2480
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:06,640
Speaker 1: time favorite splash move made by the Bills? What do

2481
02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:09,040
Speaker 1: you see on your tweet? From William He says, definitely,

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02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 1: TiO have a big name athlete signed with the Buffalo Bills,

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02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 1: got the city excited. Fans were going nuts the key

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02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:18,000
Speaker 1: to the city. It was amusing and fun to watch.

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02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:20,040
Speaker 1: I think he's right that that was a big one,

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02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:23,320
Speaker 1: particularly in recent history, Terrell Owens being signed up. It was,

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Speaker 1: and I think too part of the thing that makes

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Speaker 1: it a big splash is the unexpected nature of it, right, Yeah.

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02:03:30,120 --> 02:03:32,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, draft picks, all right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: draft somebody who's gonna be all of this stuff. But man,

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Speaker 1: oh man, when you get a guy like Terrell Owen's

2492
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:39,400
Speaker 1: just like, Wow, that's dropping a bowling ball in the

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02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:42,800
Speaker 1: bathtub for splash. Yeah, and here's one on the tweet

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02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:45,960
Speaker 1: sheet from Nick. We're asking for his all time favorite

2495
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:49,000
Speaker 1: offseason splash. Nick says, I remember being at a work

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Speaker 1: conference and meetings all day during the Marrio Williams hostage situation.

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Speaker 1: I could not pay attention to anything except my phone,

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02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 1: which was hidden in my notebook on constant refresh. It

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02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:01,400
Speaker 1: was like that. I sat in the media room out

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02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:03,480
Speaker 1: there at one Bill Drive and it was crazy and

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02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm getting, you know, sources sending me text messages like

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02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:10,640
Speaker 1: things you're falling into place, and I'd go on breathlessly

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02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:13,360
Speaker 1: reporting that, you know, I worked the channel fourth the time.

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02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:16,400
Speaker 1: I remember Paul Peck had a major coup at the time,

2505
02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:19,480
Speaker 1: and I think he hooked up with the hooked up.

2506
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:23,680
Speaker 1: He met with the Mary Williams fiance at the airport.

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02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 1: There was a huge story. Oh, it's Beyonce's in town.

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Speaker 1: That's a big development here. I mean, it was crazy.

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02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:30,680
Speaker 1: The kind of reporting that was gone. The Mary Williams

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02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:32,840
Speaker 1: thing was crazy. And that's only eight years ago, Steve.

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02:04:32,920 --> 02:04:36,320
Speaker 1: That wasn't I remember. He was the and it wasn't

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02:04:36,360 --> 02:04:39,160
Speaker 1: just that he was like an over the hill guy

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02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:41,640
Speaker 1: who wanted to play somewhere and they're gonna offer him

2514
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:45,400
Speaker 1: a one year Mario Williams was the top free agent

2515
02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:48,880
Speaker 1: available that season, at least at least on the defensive side,

2516
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:52,600
Speaker 1: maybe everywhere at a position, and the Bills were in

2517
02:04:52,640 --> 02:04:56,280
Speaker 1: the running. It was an enormous contract the Bills paid it.

2518
02:04:56,760 --> 02:04:59,320
Speaker 1: He came to Buffalo, loved Buffalo because he was you know,

2519
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:01,000
Speaker 1: he had that kind of personality, wanted to be a

2520
02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:03,320
Speaker 1: low key guy like an in a Buffalo kind of

2521
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:05,960
Speaker 1: place and act. It was just everything fell into place.

2522
02:05:06,040 --> 02:05:09,480
Speaker 1: And I think that again is like the unexpected nature

2523
02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:12,840
Speaker 1: of the Bills pulling that off was huge. Yeah, and

2524
02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:16,440
Speaker 1: it was so fun so former first round overall pick

2525
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:18,000
Speaker 1: in the draft him. He was a big name and

2526
02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:20,120
Speaker 1: came from good years in Houston and had good years

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02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:23,280
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. He wasn't everybody's favorite, but he certainly was productive,

2528
02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:25,200
Speaker 1: no question about. That's a good year. It wasn't like

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02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:27,400
Speaker 1: he came here and flopped. He saw every year. I

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02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:29,320
Speaker 1: think he saw every year of his contract, did he not?

2531
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:32,320
Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, Yeah, that's that's big. The tweet

2532
02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 1: sheet from Mafia Man, we asked who's your all time

2533
02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:38,200
Speaker 1: favorite offseason splash. Mafia Man says Mario and Teo were

2534
02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:40,720
Speaker 1: both exciting, but we're not enough to take the team

2535
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 1: to the next level. Stefan Diggs is the most exciting

2536
02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:45,640
Speaker 1: because he could be the piece that brings the ten

2537
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:48,240
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Well, it could be obviously, it hasn't

2538
02:05:48,280 --> 02:05:50,400
Speaker 1: happened yet, but I get that. I understand where there'd

2539
02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 1: be so much enthusiasm about Stefan Diggs. He could be

2540
02:05:53,560 --> 02:05:56,120
Speaker 1: the piece, he could be the guy. See. Yeah, there

2541
02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 1: is that added perception that the Bills or maybe just

2542
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:02,240
Speaker 1: one or two guys away from going deep into the

2543
02:06:02,320 --> 02:06:04,800
Speaker 1: playoffs and maybe getting into a chance, you know, competing

2544
02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:07,000
Speaker 1: for a super Bowl, getting into the division round and

2545
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 1: the championship round of the of getting to the super Bowl.

2546
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 1: They you know, there's those kind of expectations. But it's

2547
02:06:13,400 --> 02:06:16,360
Speaker 1: like Brandon Bean said publicly right after the after the

2548
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:18,800
Speaker 1: season is a offseason, who was getting underway? He goes,

2549
02:06:19,400 --> 02:06:22,720
Speaker 1: if we were just one player away, we wouldn't get

2550
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 1: bounced in the first round, because we're more than that.

2551
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:28,240
Speaker 1: But certainly Stefon Diggs and some of the guys that

2552
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:32,160
Speaker 1: they have signed to this offseason, the free agents that

2553
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:38,280
Speaker 1: we're talking about, there is a perception that the Bills

2554
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 1: have gotten more than one or two guys. You know,

2555
02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:42,760
Speaker 1: they've got some guys that can really contribute, and certainly

2556
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:45,280
Speaker 1: a big piece of it with Stephan Stefon Diggs. Let's

2557
02:06:45,280 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 1: take a phone call here. I think we have time

2558
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:49,320
Speaker 1: for this don and Depew go ahead, down and you're

2559
02:06:49,360 --> 02:06:52,560
Speaker 1: on the ear. Hey guys, uh yeah, I go back.

2560
02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:56,120
Speaker 1: I can remember back when Ralph more owners that Beneizer

2561
02:06:56,240 --> 02:07:01,240
Speaker 1: Wilson rather than cuddly Ralph. And I remember the shock

2562
02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 1: when he did the only the only time in his

2563
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:08,880
Speaker 1: career as the owner went out and got a successful,

2564
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:13,880
Speaker 1: established head coach and brought in Chuck Knox. That was

2565
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 1: a big deal back then. It was like Holy Cole.

2566
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:19,400
Speaker 1: And then he brought in some of the favorites of Villipiano,

2567
02:07:19,520 --> 02:07:24,000
Speaker 1: the Dolers, Isaiah Robertsons, and he was very entertaining and

2568
02:07:24,120 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 1: he ended up winning Coach of the Year in nineteen

2569
02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:29,520
Speaker 1: eighty here and it was just a shock. I was like, wow,

2570
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:33,440
Speaker 1: you know, he's with a powerhouse with the Rams and

2571
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:37,160
Speaker 1: we got him and that was something most that's a

2572
02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:40,280
Speaker 1: good point. And Chuck Knox was a good acquisition and

2573
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:42,800
Speaker 1: it was a shock, and I you know, it was

2574
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:45,880
Speaker 1: a while ago, nineteen seventy seven, I want to say,

2575
02:07:46,200 --> 02:07:49,040
Speaker 1: and I do recall this a sportswriter, believe it or not.

2576
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:51,840
Speaker 1: In Los Angeles, Melvin Durst life had a major role

2577
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 1: to play. He introduced mister Wilson to Chuck Knox and

2578
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:57,400
Speaker 1: he sort of was the broker there, and that's the

2579
02:07:57,440 --> 02:08:00,040
Speaker 1: way things happened. I guess years ago sports writers to

2580
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:02,480
Speaker 1: be that involved. But yeah, it was a shock and

2581
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:04,160
Speaker 1: it was a big boost for the Bills back in

2582
02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:07,040
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, seventy eight. Yeah, because Chuck was a

2583
02:08:07,160 --> 02:08:10,160
Speaker 1: proven commodity. He had done really good things with the Rams, right,

2584
02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:13,000
Speaker 1: and that was to get a guy like that. Yeah,

2585
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 1: you're right, Uh, that's like getting he didn't win a

2586
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:20,160
Speaker 1: super Bowl, but a guy who is a playoff proven

2587
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:23,800
Speaker 1: coach into your team. That is big. That is I

2588
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:27,240
Speaker 1: forgot about that. I wasn't around before when that happened,

2589
02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:30,960
Speaker 1: So that was that's big. Um reading about this, I

2590
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:33,840
Speaker 1: guess Chuck Knox and his associates did the deal in

2591
02:08:33,880 --> 02:08:38,440
Speaker 1: the reporter's house in Melvin Dirtsleg's house, and Carol Rosenbloom

2592
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:42,000
Speaker 1: was the owner of the Rams. He exacted a price

2593
02:08:42,080 --> 02:08:43,840
Speaker 1: of a six round pick from the Bills. It says

2594
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 1: that which the Bills never paid them, never got that

2595
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:49,440
Speaker 1: sixth round pick, and Chuck Knox came to the Bills

2596
02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:52,280
Speaker 1: and had good years when the AFC East title. Yeah, right,

2597
02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 1: there's something about the NFL back then, right, yeah, we'll

2598
02:08:55,760 --> 02:08:58,040
Speaker 1: pay you a sixth round pick. No, it has a

2599
02:08:58,160 --> 02:09:02,280
Speaker 1: different universe, right, What are they gonna do, like send

2600
02:09:02,360 --> 02:09:05,240
Speaker 1: some muscle you know over there to get extract a

2601
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:08,200
Speaker 1: sixth round pick? Yeah, no, we're not king, But I'm

2602
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:11,920
Speaker 1: about a sports writer engineering the deal, putting it together

2603
02:09:12,080 --> 02:09:15,280
Speaker 1: that that would never I mean, who who's the closest

2604
02:09:15,320 --> 02:09:17,400
Speaker 1: to putting something? What's the guy out west for Fox?

2605
02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:20,200
Speaker 1: A little short, stubby guy, you know I'm talking about

2606
02:09:20,240 --> 02:09:22,879
Speaker 1: he he gets close to that sign of kind of influence.

2607
02:09:23,160 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter or no what's his name? I can't remember

2608
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:30,960
Speaker 1: his name? Um, but yeah, yeah, they just don't make

2609
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:34,400
Speaker 1: him like that anymore. Were people like that? If you're right,

2610
02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:40,080
Speaker 1: come GM down, Carolina. I'm sorry, what wasn't a sports

2611
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:43,640
Speaker 1: writer who became a GM don't like Carolina? Oh yeah

2612
02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:45,800
Speaker 1: yeah yeah he still is harty hermy, he still is

2613
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:48,320
Speaker 1: the gentleman. Or down to Carolina. That's right. That'll ever

2614
02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:52,120
Speaker 1: happen again either. Thanks for your call. We're gonna take

2615
02:09:52,160 --> 02:09:54,800
Speaker 1: a break. It's One Bill's Live presented by Kalid to

2616
02:09:54,880 --> 02:10:07,920
Speaker 1: Health from radio coverage only today. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Okay,

2617
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:09,920
Speaker 1: what have we learned. Brought to you by Skyworks, the

2618
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:12,600
Speaker 1: official construction equipment rental company in the Buffalo Bills. We

2619
02:10:12,640 --> 02:10:15,240
Speaker 1: had a good show today. Dave Moore, former Bills tight

2620
02:10:15,480 --> 02:10:17,280
Speaker 1: end and now the color analysts on the Tampa Bay

2621
02:10:17,320 --> 02:10:20,680
Speaker 1: Buccaneers Radio Network talk to us about Ron Gronkowski and

2622
02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:23,920
Speaker 1: how he wound up signing on with Tampa Bay yesterday.

2623
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 1: I think really just the idea. Somebody through the idea

2624
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:31,080
Speaker 1: in front of Gronkowski and he didn't dismiss it. So

2625
02:10:31,240 --> 02:10:34,120
Speaker 1: it kind of raised the eyebrows of some people, and

2626
02:10:34,280 --> 02:10:37,760
Speaker 1: that's probably what got it going. Who contacted who, I'm

2627
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 1: not really sure. I would guess it was the Bucks

2628
02:10:40,720 --> 02:10:43,480
Speaker 1: trying to feel out in New England to see if

2629
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:45,760
Speaker 1: they would release his rights to have the opportunity to

2630
02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:50,880
Speaker 1: trade for him. So, but you know, regardless, it's a

2631
02:10:50,920 --> 02:10:55,000
Speaker 1: blessing for the Bucks for sure. Dave Moore, former Bills

2632
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:57,040
Speaker 1: tight and also on the show today, t O Tara

2633
02:10:57,160 --> 02:11:01,360
Speaker 1: Lowens joined us for a great conversation on the Teo says,

2634
02:11:01,400 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 1: believe it or not, he considers Ryan Fitzpatrick, who he

2635
02:11:04,040 --> 02:11:06,080
Speaker 1: played with here in Buffalo, as one of the best

2636
02:11:06,160 --> 02:11:08,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks he ever played with in his career. Here's what

2637
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:10,880
Speaker 1: he said. A lot of people think I'm joking when

2638
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:12,920
Speaker 1: I say this, but I tell him Fitzpatrick and he's

2639
02:11:12,920 --> 02:11:16,800
Speaker 1: because of just how smart he was and is um

2640
02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:18,680
Speaker 1: the way that I was able to really put up

2641
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:22,320
Speaker 1: some numbers. And once he got behind the quarterback, I

2642
02:11:22,480 --> 02:11:24,720
Speaker 1: got it, got behind the center, and it shows you

2643
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:31,040
Speaker 1: just the leadership, M, just the cerebral mind that he has.

2644
02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:33,960
Speaker 1: M to obviously take advantage of who I was in

2645
02:11:34,080 --> 02:11:37,040
Speaker 1: my skill set, and I became a very valuable target.

2646
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:39,360
Speaker 1: And really and I think I broke a couple of records,

2647
02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:42,280
Speaker 1: you know later in that in that season. So once

2648
02:11:42,360 --> 02:11:45,040
Speaker 1: I got a capable quarterback to realize that, Okay, let

2649
02:11:45,120 --> 02:11:47,200
Speaker 1: me get this guy the ball. M. He's watching me

2650
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:50,000
Speaker 1: throughout the course of my career. M. Everybody got a

2651
02:11:50,040 --> 02:11:52,960
Speaker 1: sense and he got a glimpse of what they've been seeing,

2652
02:11:53,240 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, throughout the course of my career. Teo was

2653
02:11:56,360 --> 02:11:58,200
Speaker 1: very good. By the way, if you miss Tara Lawns

2654
02:11:58,360 --> 02:12:01,280
Speaker 1: or Dave Moore thing on our show, we always put

2655
02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:03,840
Speaker 1: up the podcast. They can catch him on Buffalo bills

2656
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:07,480
Speaker 1: dot com also The Bills at iTunes, Spotify, and Google Play.

2657
02:12:07,760 --> 02:12:09,880
Speaker 1: TiO was more interesting. I'll be honest, he was better

2658
02:12:09,960 --> 02:12:11,400
Speaker 1: than I thought he would be. Steve on the show

2659
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:14,080
Speaker 1: today now he was. We had him on back, I

2660
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:16,240
Speaker 1: don't know a few months ago. He was also really

2661
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 1: really energetic and talking articularly, he's got a lot of

2662
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:20,160
Speaker 1: stuff going on. It was nice to hear from him.

2663
02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:23,880
Speaker 1: He's always a very complimentary to Buffalo in his time here. Yep,

2664
02:12:24,120 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 1: Terrell Owens joined to say we've got a good show

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02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:29,520
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2666
02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:32,600
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02:12:32,680 --> 02:12:35,040
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